This article from yesterday hasn’t made it onto the Daily Record’s website. When people told us about it, we thought they were joking. When someone typed the text out by hand and emailed it to us, we thought they were making it up. We had to get someone to scan the page for us before we believed it was real.
A phenomenon we’ve reported on numerous times on this site is the strange way that the media will regard the same opinion-poll statistics in radically different ways depending on how the figures relate to their political agenda.
So if 65% of Scots say they think Alex Salmond is a swell and trustworthy guy, the headline will be “MORE THAN A THIRD OF SCOTS DON’T TRUST SLIPPERY SALMOND”. Conversely, if those numbers are reversed on a referendum poll, the banner lead will be “ONLY A THIRD OF SCOTS BACK SEPARATION”.
But there are other ways of misrepresenting numbers, too.
It’s a Bank Holiday and frankly there’s absolutely bugger-all of any interest in the news today, so I hope you’ll forgive me a personal indulgence, readers. I’ve only used the personal pronoun for a couple of Wings articles out of over 2,300 in the site’s two and a half years of existence, because the independence debate isn’t about me. But a curious piece in today’s Herald by David Torrance merits such a response.
If you don’t see what it’s got to do with that video*, bear with me.
To cheer you up a bit, we thought you might like to see a couple of rather curious pieces from this weekend’s right-wing press. 300 years of the Union have infamously left Scotland with the lowest life expectancies in the UK, as illustrated in particularly stark fashion by some maps published a couple of years ago in the Guardian:
Respectable author Allan Massie (father of Spectator columnist Alex) rather shames himself in today’s Scottish Mail On Sunday, with a particularly grim piece of what we assume is supposed to be comical crystal ball-gazing, painting a melodramatic picture of an apocalyptic post-independence Scotland as seen by Project Fear.
Over 2500 words long, it ticks all the boxes – no currency union, a mass exodus of business, Spain vetoing Scotland’s EU membership, economic Armageddon forcing the return of tuition fees and prescription charges, Trident staying on the Clyde permanently, Orkney and Shetland voting to stay with the UK and somehow taking the oil with them in direct contravention of all international law, and so on.
Which would all be a super piece of knockabout fun, were it not for the fact that we’ve already almost lost count of the number of times the right-wing English media, and in particular the Mail itself, has already trotted out this same dystopian drivel.
Despite the strikingly unequivocal nature of David Trimble’s clarification yesterday of his comments about the independence referendum’s potential impact on Northern Irish politics, remarkably the media are today still trying to spin them into a dire warning about a Yes vote causing renewed violence in the province.
The picture below is a page from this morning’s Sunday Times.
We’ve quite frequently highlighted the ugly, irresponsible tone of the No campaign’s – and especially Labour’s – comments about “foreigners”in the independence debate. And the reason we do is because that sort of language feeds attitudes like these.
As people who commission opinion polls occasionally, a thing that puzzles us is why other people who do it ask questions and then don’t talk about the results.
Some polls are done with the intention of being for private consumption only (this is particularly true when they’re commissioned by one side or the other in a debate, rather than by a notionally-impartial newspaper or the pollster themselves), and at other times results will be kept private because the results are unfavourable to the people who commissioned them.
(For the avoidance of doubt, we’ve never withheld any results for that reason.)
But at other times, results will be published but never discussed. Which is why, whenever a poll’s just come out these days, we get ourselves straight over to the polling company’s website and see what’s been left out.
STV Sport has tonight broken the news that Scotland will play England in a friendly international at Hampden on November 18 this year.
Would you like to imagine, readers, the songs the visiting England support might sing if Scotland had voted to continue being ruled by them exactly two months earlier?
If you feel your strength sapping between now and September, remember that.
Yes Glasgow has been inviting No speakers to take part in this Thursday’s event for literally months. They’ve contacted every single MP and MSP from a Unionist party representing a Glasgow seat, asking them to participate. They offered from the very beginning to let “Better Together” co-organise and co-host the debate, which will be chaired by the neutral Electoral Reform Society Scotland.
The only reason that “everyone on the platform is a Yes supporter” is because nobody from the No side is prepared to face the Glasgow public and put their case. The opportunity is still there. We confess ourselves perplexed that they seem determined to refuse it, and then to complain bitterly that the debate is one-sided.
Insider on Anything But That: “Bloody hell, Northy ! You’re beginning to talk sense for a change ! What happened to you ?” Sep 6, 12:57
Captain Caveman on Anything But That: “So it’s true then: Alf’s much-vaunted UN delusion will achieve… … “Hee-Haw”, to coin a phrase. I’m sure much of…” Sep 6, 12:57
sam on Anything But That: “The Convention declaration does not change the legal position. The claim of right was debated in the HoC and Sec…” Sep 6, 12:36
Northcode on Anything But That: “For those who might have fallen under the delusion that the United Nations is planning to liberate the Scots from…” Sep 6, 12:27
James Che on Anything But That: “Bilbo, Without a active 1707 treaty between Scotland and England, Scotland is not in a national debt situation with the…” Sep 6, 12:25
sam on Anything But That: “But… another one ” We, gathered as the Scottish Constitutional Convention, do hereby acknowledge the sovereign right of the Scottish…” Sep 6, 12:21
Hatey McHateface on Anything But That: “What’s the point? Even if we managed to fit it up for serious sexual assault, it would be out again…” Sep 6, 12:21
James Che on Anything But That: “Bilbo. Here is another thought to mull over, If Scotland is a independent Country since the 1707 treaty of unions…” Sep 6, 12:17
Hatey McHateface on Anything But That: “Of course! Duh! But it requires a hard-nosed realism at odds with the feel good vibes that an entire generation…” Sep 6, 12:16
Northcode on Anything But That: ““So what happens now the treaty of union has passed its sell by date…” Well… we could have it framed…” Sep 6, 12:08
Northcode on Anything But That: “The truth is this: The Treaty of Union is no longer a live international treaty. It’s a historical document whose…” Sep 6, 12:03
James Che on Anything But That: “Has Westminster parliament informed the UN that the 1707 treaty between Scotland and England has come to its end date?…” Sep 6, 11:54
Bilbo on Anything But That: “I was thinking about Prof Alf Baird’s posts about how an independent Scotland wouldn’t be burdened with the financial ambitions…” Sep 6, 11:48
James Che on Anything But That: “So the 1707 treaty of union that is wrote down on old parchment paper no longer exist as a treaty…” Sep 6, 11:36
Bilbo on Anything But That: “No point interacting with wee guttersnipes like Beggan.” Sep 6, 11:36
TURABDIN on Anything But That: “@Hatey McHateface I am no apologist for the theocratic system currently gripping Ir@n but that system is not Ir@n per…” Sep 6, 11:32
James Che on Anything But That: “North code, The comment you made was a bit contradictory in its overall veiw on international treaties. The old treaty…” Sep 6, 11:25
factchecker on Anything But That: “More good sense. Additionally, I would suggest that the Claim of Right was in reality simply a political negotiating tool…” Sep 6, 11:18
Alf Baird on Anything But That: ““I do believe he is shedding his skin” Maybe its the shock of finally realising the cost for Scots of…” Sep 6, 11:01
Marie on Anything But That: “Whatever country it is – it’s definitely NOT Scotland” Sep 6, 10:49
Northcode on Anything But That: “Supporters of Scottish independence – especially the more active kind – often talk about the Claim of Right as if…” Sep 6, 10:49
Hatey McHateface on Anything But That: “His shed skin, stuffed and cosmetically improved by a talented funeral director, will make a superb figurehead for the SNP…” Sep 6, 10:43
Chas on Anything But That: “‘Onset of dementia’ Sorry but you are wrong Insider. The ‘onset’ took place years ago. It is now full blown.” Sep 6, 10:32
Hatey McHateface on Anything But That: “Ah well, TURABDIN. As it happens, I was just reading about a pair of Ir@nian sisters in the Guardian online…” Sep 6, 10:17
Captain Caveman on Anything But That: “Yes, absolutely Hatey. Put more simply: sometimes in life, you have to wake up to the fact that you’ve been…” Sep 6, 10:12
TURABDIN on Anything But That: “@agentx FRANKLIN’s country may be counted among the least virtuous and most hypocritical on the planet, albeit «anglosaxons» do hold…” Sep 6, 09:40
Hatey McHateface on Anything But That: “Sure, Xaracen, most of us understand how sunk costs work, and how the years of endless posts and uncounted words…” Sep 6, 09:36
TURABDIN on Anything But That: “@Mark Beggan «they’re just people who care about our country». «our country» being? Do give it a name?” Sep 6, 09:26
Hatey McHateface on Anything But That: “I guess if Farage ever does become PM, he’ll have far more of a democratic mandate than Burnham has. I’m…” Sep 6, 09:02
Xaracen on Anything But That: “Just to re-centre the discussion for anyone following the thread, the point I originally made — and from which all…” Sep 6, 08:55