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    1. Daisy Walker says:

      Perpignan is served by the Gare de Perpignan railway station, which offers connections to Paris, Barcelona, Toulouse, and several regional destinations. Salvador Dalí proclaimed it to be the “Cosmic Centre of the Universe” after experiencing a vision of cosmogonic ecstasy there in 1963.[8]

    2. Tinto Chiel says:

      Hi, Daisy.

      I haven’t had any cosmogonic ecstasy since 18/5/91 but this chiel experienced somethng similar in Narbonne, apparently:–QM_tJ-s

    3. Tinto Chiel says:

      Fifty years on but never so topical……

    4. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Hacka: “Govern wisely and fairly…”

      Now there’s a novelty!

    5. Tinto Chiel says:

      “They were unique, like so many others!”

      Except they did make an instantly recognisable sound and are completely out of fashion today. Love the throbbing bass which comes in about 2.11.

      A song for Alba, perhaps, because the dream will never die…..

    6. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Well, TC, if you’re gonna make it a 70s night, I’ll offer this cover. I think it was released on the RAK label in 1974/5.

      In the way Vanilla Fudge totally revamped songs, Mike Berry did the same with this. Still in my 7″ vinyl collection. I like it…

      And, typin’ aboot Vanilla Fudge, (back to the 60s) gotta link (again?) to this epic… Every local band, that had an organist, played this around 1968/69. I remember The Oryx from Alloa, did a decent version. We (the BB) and the Guides in the same church, booked them for our Dundee city centre dances, alternatively, every three months.

      Them were the days!

    7. Tinto Chiel says:

      Them were the days but where have they all gone? Went to bed early with my Trollope and missed all the action.

      I’d forgotten all about Mike Berry and the enigma wot was VF. Were they trippy hippies? Were they heavy metal or a strange mutant strain (topical)?

      Saw a reed bunting yesterday and a flock of swallows hoovering up flies above the loch. Don’t they know snow is on the way, the silly sossages? Welcome to Scotland.

    8. Tinto Chiel says:

      Meant to append this, another Berry, this time from the 60s. Smallaxe once told me an interesting tale about him:

    9. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Dave Berry… I immediately remembered that he did strange things with the mic and its lead.

      Vanilla Fudge? I guess they could be described as psychedelic hard prog…

      Here they are live in 2011 with a Zombies cover.

    10. Cactus says:

      On this day: Was the first Wings meet-up at The Counting House in Glasgow (a political generation of 7 years.)

      – Putting Nicola Sturgeon to the side, pro-indy Scottish voters who were disillusioned and didn’t fully turn out to vote in the 2017 General Election (because the SNP’s policy was to ‘Stop Brexit’ rather than save Scotland) can now exercise their pro-indy desires, by voting for the SNP on the Constituency (holding vote) and Scotland’s ALBA party on the crucial List vote.

      The only stock that will be getting taken count of after the vote, will be a pro-indy supermajority and with a true champion for independence like Alex Salmond (and fellow ALBA colleagues) in place, what’s not to like.

      – REMEMBER: Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP do NOT own independence.

      – The people of Scotland can hold (the proven tainted politician) Nicola Sturgeon to account (for all of her misdemeanours and false promises) by making sure they vote SNP on the Constituency (apart from the Glasgow Southside seat to be re-deuced with selected others) and ALBA party for and on the List.

      – As some Unionist voters are now realising that their tea’s oot on the List vote, many Unionist voters should be considering voting for the ALBA party, along with the mainstream majority of Scottish voters. This will allow the ALBA party representatives to hold the acting First Minister to account (which is what Unionists want afterall.) Unionists now have nothing left to lose but their faeces.

      – It’s probably important to mention that there will also be diehard Unionists moonlighting as ‘SNP only’ supporters (putting out the twa votes SNP lunacy) in the hope that they will still be able to scrap together some List seats for their London based Unionist parties.

      – An open statement to all previous NON-voters of Scotland:
      I acknowledge that many of you are understandably disillusioned with politics and that “all politicians are the same”. Well that was then and this is now. This coming crucial election is not about ‘getting one over’ on somebody else, it’s about preserving and saving the very fabric of our country. If you’ve never voted in an election before, you’ve still got time left to register.

      Even if you can’t support a vote for the current SNP on the Constituency seat, that’s once again understandable, BUT, if you registered JUST to vote once on the List/Regional ticket and vote for the ALBA party, you would be doing yourself and Scotland an immeasurably noble and selfless deed. See how you feel like voting on the day, but get yourself registered to vote! Please consider this for the sake of Scotland.

      A sovereign citizen of Alba Scotland.

    11. Cactus says:

      – Encore une fois.

      “I wish I had a million dollars… Hot Dog!”

      ALBA is cooking:

    12. Tinto Chiel says:

      Yes, as I recall, Dave’s gimmick was hiding his face behind his hands, artfully staged props or simply turning away from the camera, which was actually rather annoying.

      PHP sounds about right to me…… 😉 .

    13. Tinto Chiel says:


      Re the coming elections:

      I used to try to analyse Moon’s drumming style but I eventually decided he was wonderfully insane.

    14. Cactus says:

      Hey Tinto Chiel, aye we’re never to be fooled again. Some were first fooled back in 2014 by BT and come now full-circle throughout the past seven years it has happened again… the New SNP were supposed to be the saviours of Scotland and look how that turned out!

      Can I ask for some assistance/advice please folks?

      Like many others, I took the bold step of joining the ALBA party as a founder member yesterday afternoon (yesterday being a poignant day). The transaction appeared to go through okay on screen, but unfortunately no confirming e-mail or other contact was received.

      I’ve since contacted the ALBA Party via their Facebook account (as there is no option on their website) and still awaiting a reply.

      I understand they are having teething problems but the lack of feedback is concerning (even if it is a Easter Bank Holiday weekend).

      Hopefully they’ll get back to me soon as I’m holding-off on a donation to the active crowdfunder until my membership details have been confirmed.

      Yeah any further advice/direct contact details would be helpful.


    15. Dorothy Devine says:

      My Prickly pal , is it really 7 years since the fire alarm went off?

      I suppose I should thank them because I probably wouldn’t have got round everyone but because of the alarm I met Paul WGD and Ronnie before I had to vanish into the night.

      I do remember the unsolicited assurance of the doormen , trying to convince us they had not set it off.

      Ian B had the best handshake in the world and John King had the best T shirt!

      A happy memory!

    16. Tinto Chiel says:

      @C_Man: I got a confirmation number by return on the day I joined.

    17. Cactus says:

      Hey Dorothy-lady and Tinto-gent.

      Greetings and yipee y’all. I too am now a sovereign member of ALBA. Everything went smoothly right through to the checkout, but nothing was received in my standard inbox… so where were these acknowledgments sent, where else but my Junk mail-box (hardly). All other authorised transactions go straight to my Inbox, so dunno why this happened? I put into the crowdfunder too and got a notification as normal in my focused mail. Splendid.

      Exciting to read the latest article relating to the New SNP’s money trail on the missing RAF. It’s like a Cluedo treasure hunt. Who did it and with which political weapon did they use in which chamber? (Note: The New SNP – Estb. 20/11/14).

      I took a big walk last night from the south-side heading for George Square. On route, somebody had written on the pavement in chalk “Register To Vote 0141 287 4444” at Eglinton Street just under the M74 flyover, so that was pleasing to see.

      On arrival in the city’s centre (just before midnight), I had the whole square to myself in the silence to mark 701 years to date. On returning back home through the city (via Paisley Road West) I almost got hit by falling masonry down by the Clydeside… my tread must have been quite heavy to shake the foundations of the old sandstone building, yikes! (called it in to be sure).

      Scotland is now fighting for our freedom on several fronts:

      “It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom – for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.”

      ALBA for Scotland.


    18. David says:

      Blimey, whoever came up with that SNP party political broadcast is either a Rikki Fulton fan, or an 80’s McEwans Lager ad fan.

      (90 second video, with the lager ad, followed by Rikki’s spoof of it.)

    19. JGedd says:

      SOS BDTT, if he’s looking in. Seeking advice on voting in South of Scotland with the advent of Alba. Joan McAlpine is second on the list and wouldn’t want to lose her if possible.

    20. Cactus says:

      1984 revisited. Yeah the NewSNP’s latest party political propagandacast was cringingly insulting. They can bleat all they want about “The Tories did this and the Tories did that”, but NOT ONCE did the NewSNP ever CHALLENGE them on ANY of it. They have zero accountability or credibility. It looks like they’re now going all out in vain, to try and coerce the remaining vulnerable, impressionable and apolitical persons to also give them their list vote – Not a chance – It must be ALBA only for the Scottish list vote.

      It also reminded me of this scene from this marvelous movie…

      All aboard HMS Sturgeon:

      This time next month…

    21. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi JGedd.

      I haven’t crunched the numbers for South Scotland -yet! – but I see that Joan McAlpine is standing for the Dumfriesshire constituency.

      If things go according to plan, she’ll win that on current constituency polling.

      I’m on holiday next week so I’ll try to do South Scotland, as in the Quarantine comments. I’ve done Highlands & Islands but haven’t published it yet.

    22. Tinto Chiel says:

      @C-Man: glad your Alba problems disappeared. I admire your nocturnal rambles of the solitary walker 😉 .

      @David: yeah, that Sisyphus-Escher stuff was what sprang to mind with the SNP horror show, with a large dollop of Orwell.

      Still out in Brazil or coming back to watch St Mirren in the post-split fixtures?

    23. JGedd says:


      Thanks for your reply.

      My constituency SNP candidate is Emma Harper and I would have to grit my teeth in order to vote for her. Joan MacAlpine might not get in as SNP MSP in the next door constituency but is second on the SNP list. She is a list MSP already and I’m more pessimistic than you about her winning the constituency this time either. The Tory vote here is pretty tenacious and immovable, unfortunately.

      So, I will await your sage advice. Thanks again for all the number crunching so that lazy sods like me don’t have to!

    24. Tinto Chiel says:

      Can’t remember if I’ve posted this here before but since the Rev. has blown a fuse you might fill in the time before his next blockbuster a lot worse:

      Given the cast and director, you can assume a lot was going on off camera, usually alcohol-themed 😉 .

    25. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      There’s a well-known in Dundee story about the Chookie Embra.

      At the link below, click on the smaller pics below the bigger one of the pub to get the story.

    26. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi JGedd.

      Two articles from The National…

      SNP in with shout in Galloway and West Dumfries – but it could be very tight

      SNP have genuine chance of unseating Tory MSP Oliver Mundell in Dumfriesshire

    27. JGedd says:


      Thanks for that. I stopped reading The National some time ago but those articles are helpful.

      I’m still not so optimistic about Joan McAlpine’s chances in her constituency and therefore still concerned about her not getting in on the list since Emma Harper – candidate for my constituency – opted to use the ‘new’ mechanism identifying as disabled for the list by leapfrogging over J McAlpine to the top of the list, pushing Joan to second place.

      I hope Joan makes it as constituency MSP but I have my doubts.
      The Tory vote is intractable and the demographic changes The National tentatively alludes to, is that a large estate has been built on the edge of Dumfries, mainly inhabited by people from England, where those houses were primarily advertised. It’s handily situated near the A75 making a relatively easy commute to Carlisle. Perhaps these new incomers are sympathetic to independence…? Is there a blue moon tonight? Might be wrong on both counts.

    28. David says:

      Hello Tinto Chiel @ some days ago, yes I am still in Brazil, and no I won’t be spending £3,000 on a flight (plus two weeks enforced quarantine) to watch the Buddies finish 7th…

      I’ve hardly been following sport, any sport, at all this past year, as I’ve not been able to work up any enthusiasm for it. I think life under lockdown has left me a bit depressed, but I deal with that by watching old Scooby-Doo cartoons on tv, and cooking & eating large amounts of tablet. You can never have too much tablet, or too much Scooby-Doo.
      (Scooby Doo Theme Song)

      On a more upbeat note, my wife got her first covid vaccine jag this week, so we can start being hopeful for an end to the current situation. Brazil is far behind Scotland on vaccinating its people, so far only about 10 or 11% have had their first jags. I am hoping to get mine either this month or next. I’ll be brave.
      (‘The Needle and the Damage Done’- Neil Young)

    29. Tinto Chiel says:

      @David: hmmm, yes get your point about the cost of watching the Buddies on a “flying visit”…..

      Had to laugh about your lockdown tablet habit but I hope you have a good dentist. Reminded me of a wedding we were at a few years ago which had quite a few English guests. The menu promised coffee and tablet which seemed to bemuse them. I think they thought that eccies were going to be freely available for the post-dinner orgy, which was always rather unlikely in Bishopbriggs anyway.

      Meanwhile, in other news, there have been some really hard frosts Where I Am the last four nights or so enjoy the warmth WYA.

    30. JGedd says:


      Nature Notes:

      I’ve had a blue tit dashing itself at one of the kitchen windows for the past two days. I think it’s fallen for its own reflection. I’ve tried scaring it away but nothing works. It only goes away at sundown and returns rapturously every morning to woo its reflection. ‘The madness of spring’ right enough.

      It’s a little jewel but sadly fated to be an evolutionary dead end. There’s no future in self-love, as religion has been sternly admonishing us for centuries.

      So, keep your hands above the bedclothes because God is watching! (Why do I hear that in my head in an Irish nun’s voice?’)

    31. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi JGedd.Have a look at the figures at this link:-

      It looks like Labour voters from 2011 moved almost equally to Tories and SNP – Labour down 14%, both Tories and SNP up 7%. Joan Macalpine only lost by 1,230.

      If you could get a (local) campaign going to persuade erstwhile Labour voters to switch to the SNP, Mundell could be out.

    32. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      A5 leaflet?

      If you were a Labour supporter,
      who voted Tory or Labour in 2016,
      why not vote SNP this time,
      To kick out the Tory?
      Your country need YOU!

    33. Cactus says:

      Ladies and Gents of ALBA Scotland, there are 25 days to go…
      (3 weeks on Thursday)

      – Political party definitions:
      1) NS and her NewSNP is the party of indefinite devolution.
      2) The ALBA Party are for Scotland and will PUSH for independence.

      – T’would be good if there were ALBA supporters outside every polling station with a placard saying something like… “a vote for ALBA is a vote for Scotland” and say to passing people entering to cast their votes, something like… “thanks for coming out to vote”. A neutral but friendly gesture (and then just freestyle it from there if people are curious and interested.) Remember, keep smiling, this campaign is a positive campaign, for Scotland.

      – Now that Scotland is beginning to have more of our previously known freedoms returned to us, if you’re thinking of going away for a holiday this year, try a staycation for your nation. Let’s try to help our Scottish tourist industry back on its feet. The same applies for eating and drinking out… I foretell that this Summer of ’21 is going to be a heatwave for Scotland!

      – I wonder if the NewSNP will ever be the same again? It’s like the purpose of the NewSNP has gone from proactively wanting independence to being some kind of unpalatable Diet-SNP counterfeit copy, lent alone a fully skimmed No Sugar Added-SNP version – Yuk! Will the Original SNP ever be returned to the shelves? ALBA MAX is the way to go.

      – Voting on the 06/05/21 comes in stages (Stage 1 is the easy automatic bit:)
      1. Reach for the PEACH paper first and put your X beside the ALBA Party.
      2. Take your LILAC paper and do what you feel you must.
      3. Check that your voting slips have a unique ID or barcode.
      4. Post your papers into the ballot box.

      Upon looking for the Spitting Image videos about ‘Scotland – The Testing Ground’ and the one about the ‘South Africans’… these videos have NOW been deleted from the YouTube system, interesting eh, but I did come across these curious ones:

      Check out the thoughts of the other international peoples of the world.

    34. Cactus says:

      A further curious observation of thought:

      – When Scotland has returned to being an independent country and the Queen of England thereafter dies, what flag will be/may be chosen to fly (if at all) at half-mast throughout the length and breadth of these different lands? As the Union flag would no longer be a valid flag, I imagine people in England would opt for their St. Georges Cross flag (seems reasonable and appropriate.) Northern Ireland and Wales would probably fly their own country’s natural home flags too if they wanted to. Then on to the people of extended Europe and beyond if they are interested.

      Independent Scotland? What about the people of? The People of iScotland? I reckon some Scottish people would lower the many already flying saltires to half-mast too, as per their own personal interests. Fair doos. Most other saltire flags I would imagine probably remain at full-mast blowing proudly in the wind. It’s all about personal choice via association with or not, but, incorrect use of a Union flag would be of times past and like the flightless dodo.

      NB the best thing about the word ‘beyond’, is that when applied, beyond has no boundaries.

      (am now using my non-hotmail address if this is the preferred way)

    35. Tinto Chiel says:

      @JGedd: yes, I’m pretty sure it’s become enamoured of its own reflection. A wee goldcrest (which I had never seen close-up before) did the same routine on a window frame a few years back and I remember discussing its extraordinary behaviour with the much-missed “cearc” at the time.

      On the much less wholesome topic wot you done allude to, I remember seeing in a Britannia music catalogue about twenty years ago (when they made things called cassettes) a bizarre section on self-help books (!) which had a most unusual entry, coyly called The Joy of One. I do hope its content was suitably gender-balanced and inclusive going forward in terms of pushing the envelope towards a full-spectrum equality situation (to string together more mindless phrases so beloved of Da Meeja).

      Saw two treecreepers yesterday. I feel better now.

      And a dead bank vole.

    36. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Here’s a wee puzzle for yooz.

      When I first bought this 7″ picture single, I identified 9 samples. I’m sure I got up to 11 subsequently.

      How many can you find? And name them?

    37. Tinto Chiel says:

      Wouldn’t look in case they were faecal samples. It is breakfast time, after all.

    38. Tinto Chiel says:

      A good cast but could do with a bit more oooomph:

    39. JGedd says:


      The ‘Joy of One’; the very definition of self-help.


      Thanks for the info on Dumfries constituency. One of my sons lives in that constituency and is quietly confident that Joan Mcalpine could make it as constituency MSP this time. I’ll ask him about printing out some of your A5 leaflets.

      I followed your instructions and submitted my first archived link successfully yesterday. I’m so proud!

    40. JGedd says:

      Tinto ( the Grey Owl de nos jours?)

      More Nature Notes:

      My wee besotted blue tit is still battering at the window for the fourth day. I’m afraid that he is going to exhaust himself to death in pursuit of the unobtainable.

      Even the sparrows are looking on askance and you know what Chaucer had to say about sparrows.

    41. Tinto Chiel says:

      Grey Owl? I hope not: our heiresses had a very strange one of those when they were in the Brownies. Looked like she smoked Capstan Full Strength and resembled one of Marge Simpson’s sisters.

      Growing concerned re your lascivious blue tit. He’ll wear himself out at this rate. If he were human you would suggest a night class or joining the local library, of course.

      Chaucer? I was always more of a Nigel Molesworth man myself but I catch your drift.

    42. JGedd says:


      Haha, I liked the portrait of your daughters’ Brown Owl. We had a music teacher like that but she was said to smoke Woodbine and had a voice like Satchmo, probably as a result of all those fags.

      No, I had in mind this gentleman with a colourful past, who used to do nature programmes on BBC. ( Well before my time, honest guv.)

    43. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      “Archie Belaney”…

      Interesting stuff!

    44. Tinto Chiel says:

      @JGedd: fascinating story about Grey Owl. Never heard of him before but at least he done right in the wrong way. Sometimes I wish I could escape to the wilds of Canada, where nappy-wearing weirdos seem thinner on the ground. Mind you, then I’d have to start worrying about Bigfoot as I wander along the Athabasca river.

      This is my favourite enigmatic character. God knows what the actual truth is:

      @Brian: yon Bugger The Panda ain’t much of a singer, is he 😉 ? Great footage, though, of an optimistic time when independence seemed oh so simple: “Give us the votes and we’ll finish the job.”

      *Sighs, stares bleakly out of window at the mist*

    45. David says:

      Yes! £50,225 raised in the ALBA party crowdfunder!

    46. David says:

      Great old song by the Bonzo Dog Band – “No Matter Who You Vote For The Government Always Gets In”

      Not so sure of this year’s follow-up – “No Matter Who You Vote For The SNP Government Always Gets In (And Puts Indy On THe Back Burner For Five Years)”…

    47. Meg merrilees says:

      Message for Daisy.
      If you contact Allison on this e mail she might be able to help.
      midscotlandandfife [at] albaparty [dot] org

    48. Daisy Walker says:

      Thanks Meg, have done so, waiting on a reply.

    49. Cactus says:

      The new and latest Yew Choob production presents:

    50. Dan says:

      @ Daisy

      Emails to that specific Alba address have already been sent regarding campaign signage and leaflets and are awaiting a response.
      Really hoped they’d have been replied to very quickly as many folk have moved to postal voting and the ballots have already been delivered and filled in by some…

      If you get a response and access to material then please let me know on here. I’ll do likewise.
      Could probably muster a few folk to assist with delivery too.

      In the meantime I’m just continuing to contact folk that will be receptive to voting Alba in my local area and busy working my way through my personal contacts.

    51. Tinto Chiel says:

      Testing HTML tags. I’m a slow learner.

      The blackcaps and willow warblers have arrived.

    52. Tinto Chiel says:


    53. Daisy Walker says:

      Thanks Dan – no reply as of yet. Iain Lawson has passed on the message alos. Think they must be having early days/logistic probs.

      Are you based Tayside area, if/when I go to collect, will I bring you a supply, and how much?

    54. Dan says:

      @ Daisy

      I got a message this morning from a contact that stated a response from the Alba Regional Coordinator had been received. They have arranged to be a hub for the area.
      It looks like Alba boards and leaflets should be arriving over the weekend.
      I’ve offered to help distribute this stuff.

      Can we catch up for a chat? It sounds like we are all aiming for the same thing and no point duplicating efforts.
      We’ve met before when you were getting your vehicle serviced at a garage in Arran Road a couple of years back. I’ve contacted them and if you call them they will give you my number. 😉

    55. Daisy Walker says:

      Hello again Dan, I thought it was yourself.

      Was it Allison you contacted, if so I have her e-mail? And will contact her to forward my e-mail to you.

      Just a wee heads up, I’m otherwise engaged on Monday, but the rest of the callander is looking good.

    56. JGedd says:

      Postal vote envelopes delivered to our house for the first time ever yesterday. Keep looking at mine then putting it away again.

      I know I’ll have to bow to the inevitable and commit to my vote but weakly procrastinating, just for, now I shove it away out of sight. One day soon I’ll take a lunge at it, pen in hand, and force myself to vote SNP in the constituency. Then I’ll feel very, very bad.

      The second cross for Alba will be easier though. (God there are some mental parties standing on the list and I don’t just mean Galloway’s Hole in the Wa’ Gang. They are an assortment of right wing Unionists but I don’t hear Sturgeon being scathing about the unionists gaming the system.)

    57. Dan says:

      @ Daisy

      Allison was contacted by a committee member of one of our local YES groups.
      I passed on her email address to that group as thought it would have more chance of getting a response if an email request for materials came from an existing YES organisation which could act as a hub to then distribute materials to activists in the area like they have already been doing for years.
      So I haven’t contacted Allison myself as thought it would be more efficient use of her time if she wasn’t snowed under by lots of different individuals trying to get stuff.
      If you want to get in touch with me then just call that garage and they will give you my number.

    58. Tinto Chiel says:

      It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men.

      Frederick Douglass

      *End of test*

    59. Tinto Chiel says:

      Wot happened to my horizontal dividing line?


    60. Tinto Chiel says:
    61. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      A lot of ‘on-topic’ posts on here today!

      Let’s get back to basics.

      There’s a TV presenter, usually on BBC2 or BBC ALBA!, called Paul Murton.

      When I’m busy on the leedle Mac, I have the TV on for audiovisual wallpaper, in the background.

      He does documentaries, usually titled “Grand Tours of Scotland’s whatever”. They are rather educational. I find myself pausing the Mac input to pay attention to what he’s bletherin’ aboot on the televisual apparatus.

      He’s got a prog on the moment, on BBC2. Covered the ‘Clootie Well’ as an example.

      My question is – His progs are usually bereft of waffle & p!$$. Why is he never mentioned in the MSM as a “presenter”, unlike the hairflicker, who attract media coverage, like wasps to a jar of jam?

      Edinburgh Central? You have a pro-indy candidate who isn’t Mr Dempsie.

    62. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Tinto Chiel says:
      16 April, 2021 at 6:29 pm

      How DARE you come in here and type Nothing!

    63. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      That track always reminds of the Rhine Valley.

      When I was on my school exchange trip to Würzburg in 1968, ! had a wee transistor radio with me.

      Train from Hook of Holland to Frankfurt, then train to Würzburg.

      On the way down the Rhine valley, I was able to tune in to AFN Nuremburg – and that track was playing.

    64. Dan says:

      Tinto Chiel says:
      16 April, 2021 at 6:29 pm


      That is some quality minimalist shiz you got going on right there Tints!

      In other news that Patrick Harvie should but won’t be impressed by… I found a large half full tin of Pantone 300 paint in the shed, so proceeded to cut up and paint some recycled plywood boards and an old slate.
      Guess I’ll be brushing the white paint the morra…

    65. Andy Ellis says:

      I think I’m going to enjoy leafleting the my home turf in Edinburgh Central for Alba.

      The West End might not be a hot bed of Alba support but I’ll enjoy ruffling a few feathers! 🙂

    66. Tinto Chiel says:

      “How DARE you come in here and type Nothing!”

      “That is some quality minimalist shiz you got going on right there Tints!”

      Gentlemen: I’ve been doing that here for years. Haven’t you noticed 😉 ?

      Seriously, I was trying for a horizontal line, using “” w/o the ICs like I was pure done telt by Da Man.

      * Bulgars Orff (Carl’s brother) in disgust…….

    67. Dan says:

      @ Andy

      What’s Stockbridge like now? Have The Colonies off Glenogle Rd next to the Water of Leith been colonised by multi-millionaires yet?

    68. Tinto Chiel says:

      Wot happened to my ?


    69. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Since I discovered Dean Village a few years ago, I visit it a couple of times a year via Google Maps.

      It’s quite a thing that that area has been allowed to survive.

    70. Andy Ellis says:

      @Dan 9.14 am

      The Stockbridge Colonies are pretty “des res” now, yeah. Even tho’ they are pretty small properties they can go for > £300K now. The whole of Stockbridge, Dean Village and Comley Bank is pretty steep. We’ve been flat hunting for the outlaws who are moving here and it’s bee a real eye opener!

      I prefer the West End tho’. Closer to town and bigger properties. The whole area is going a bit up-market tho’: even Dalry and Haymarket area is getting a bit trendy, loads of good restaurants and cafes. With the new development in the old railway yard at Haymarket, the station and the tram it’s got a lot going for it I reckon.

      (No, I’m not an Estate Agent, honest….!) 🙂

    71. Daisy Walker says:

      Dan, I’ll contact the garage on Tuesday and get your contact number.

      Cheers for now.

    72. Dan says:

      @ Andy

      Fairly sure my folks bought the property in the colonies I was raised in for a couple of grand if that.
      Stocky was a pretty cool laid back place with quite a village feel to it. Though that may have been down to all the peace smoke being exhaled by the hippies!

      Used to fish the Water of Leith in Stockbridge and Dean Village as a bairn. Aye, you can go catch Marlin or Barracuda off of Key West, but I’ll never forget the adrenaline rush of the fight and managing to land a discarded rusty ScotMid trolley on a Woolworths spinning rod and 4lb line! 🙂

      @ Daisy

      Ok, will catch up next week.

    73. alba says:

      Okay Andy, if you want to debate
      “Is there anyone left in Scotland who would actually admit to being a member of the SNP??? Or worse still,,,is there anyone left in Scotland who would actually wear their SNP badge with pride??? Because what you are actually telling the world is,,, “LOOK AT ME,,, I’M A FUCKIN PERVERT”.

      Then fine. I’m not too busy today. IF your genuine then nows your chance. I’m not and never have been a member of SNP. But I AM a member of ISP; so certain….aspects….of the SNP party I fundamentally oppose. But I’m still giving them my constituency vote.

    74. Dan says:


      Spent an hour getting all artistic with a brush and white paint. My bespoke Alba signs look da bomb*.

      * That’s “da bomb” as in the yoof wordage for cool as fuck, not to be misinterpreted as violent or weapon like such as “killer heals” has been in the past.

      Andy, turns out the house in The Colonies we lived in could have been bought for 600 quid cash! But because of my parents needing to set up a loan it ended up costing £1600.

    75. Dan says:

      @ Daisy

      I’m guessing you may have had a delivery today? I’ve collected a limited number of boards to distribute.
      I understand there should be more next week.

    76. Cactus says:

      Alba X.

      – Halò. As the Electoral Commission has proactively prevented the Alba Party from adding our ‘X’ to the logo listings on the PEACH voting papers, this could be a test for the modern day voter… previously when presented with the image of a fish, people had to draw in an eye to pass the test.

      Therefore, to prove you are a true Scot, when presented with your peach voting paper, to pass the Scottish test of being a true Scot of the 21st-century, you need to mark your cross (X) in the square shaped box next to the ALBA PARTY. Any alternative markings made (on the peach paper) will confirm support for Unionist representation in Holyrood… and the costly fine is eternal shame and banishment from the land.

      – When ALBA Scotland win big we’ll be saying “we’re well on our way”. This Scottish Holyrood Election is the one that can make a real difference. Consider this one to be the formal dress rehearsal for indy that Scotland has been waiting for since 2014.

      – We need a new Scottish song to get behind and sing to, howsabout a new Scottish song called “ALBA for Scotland”. It would be good to celebrate and sing something positive on the seventh.

      – Anyone want to start a chitty for who will be assigned to the role as the next Presiding Officer of the Scottish Parliament… mibbies George Galloway ah haha.

      – Votes should be formally counted at each polling station that they are cast within. At 10pm close the doors and under trusted supervision, empty out and count all the votes up there and then (what say 2 or 3 thousand votes tops per polling station.) Thereafter return all of these votes to each polling box, seal them with a wax stamp or whatever and attach to each of the polling boxes the unique totals for votes cast per party. These counted results can then be sent to a central location and physical paper votes kept should a verification of recounting be required – if the vote results are tight. Results can also be e-mailed directly to a central source.

      – Important Q: Will there be EXIT POLLS carried out for this election?

      – Speaking of super-injunctions… as words appear to not be permitted, could a picture paint many a word instead? Certain castles are always bonnie at this time of year (think of the name of a popular chicken & haggis dish.)

      Here’s an appropriate song for the serving First Meanister:

      It’s what inside that counts.

    77. Cactus says:

      – In summing up:

      Do you remember way back in 2014, Cairnstoon’s ‘The candle’ with the Union flag cufflinked shirt arm and hand extinguishing our flame of Hope:

      Come forward to the present day, the flame of the candle has now been re-lit by the Alba Party, but instead there is a new arm and hand with rainbow-painted fingernails underneath our candle holding a lit lucifer. As the hot wax drips down, it eventually snuffles and puts out this lucifer and leaves a trail of hardened evidence all over the arsonists hand. The flame remains the same.

      A political generation of seven years have now passed.

    78. Iain MacLachlan says:

      Can anyone help?
      Where can I purchase ALBA posters for my window?
      I can’t print them off as my printer won’t talk to my Mac since the Big Sur update.

      I’m in Edinburgh and could collect locally.

      Any ideas?


    79. Cactus says:

      There now follows a non-political party preview warning…

      For reference:

      (credit to Breeks from the MSPreachers thread for sharing)
      – – – – – – – – – –

      Do any of the following videos seem familiar, any similarities?

      Beware of the wicked one in the red dress: (3mins:24secs) (5mins:01sec) (5mins:48secs) (9mins:26secs)

      Essential viewing and listening.

      The New Visitors have arrived.

    80. Dorothy Devine says:

      Ian MacLachlan ,if you have contributed or joined ALBA check your spam/junk mail. I discovered all the ALBA information had been deposited there by microsoft.

      In Glasgow there is a 3 day distribution event in George Square with times indicated. I assume there will also be one in Edinburgh.

      Morning my Prickly pal! I’m off to see what gems you have posted on youtube!

    81. Cactus says:

      Hey Dorothy, hope you’re keepin’ groovy, yeah I’m still getting the same mail going to my junk-mail inbox too, it must be an internet thing. Good to hear we’re getting the written ALBA word up and out to Edinburgh and the Glasgow folk there already X.

      Might I also suggest everybody here gets chatting more on off-topic about off-topic, but topical things, whenever like 🙂

      We find ourselves in the middle of the approach to voting day. We are are on the edge of Scotland’s very fabric and being with this one. Our next returned liberties begin again this coming Monday. Thank God for ALBA. Let’s keep all of the ideas going aye.

      We’re fighting for our very freedoms of 2021 and beyond.

      We have Wings main excellent articulating articles Yes, with guests, and there is also HERE, “backstage triple-A-pass off-topic” for your pleasure, desires and just general off-topic chat, yeah.

      It’s your stage Scotland, step on it.

      Sweet Home Alba-Mama:

    82. Dorothy Devine says:

      Hey Prickly Pal , used to ride those roads in my youth – pillion of course ,strangely incapable of mastering the machine so that anyone would give me a licence!

      Nowadays far too arthritic for the saddle!

    83. Betty Boop says:

      Hi Folks,

      Sad news today. Peter Carnegie (aka “pete the camera”) passed away this morning.

      For those who knew Pete, you know that he was an absolute stalwart for Wings and indy. He attended many events, despite serious health issues, and literally, along with Brian, made thousands of Wings and Yes badges, sometimes on the spot and sometimes the pair of them even sat on the ground making them with dozens of folk around waiting for a new badge.

      He will be very much missed. There are no details about arrangements yet. Please pass the message on to friends.

    84. Marie Clark says:

      Aw that’s very sad news indeed betty boop. Thank you for letting us know, and condolences to all the family and friends that Pete made along the way.

      Condolences to you as well BDTT, sad day for you too.

    85. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Well said, Gillian.

      He’ll be missed.

    86. Dorothy Devine says:

      How sad. As Ian B said , I wonder how many more good folk won’t see independence.

    87. Cactus says:

      Putting all of their other common party pledges aside… here’s a question for all true independence supporting Scottish Green/New SNP voters to consider when they vote on their List option (peach paper).

      Q1. When would you like Scotland’s independent status to return?

      a) Next year (2022)
      b) 3 to 5 years (between 2024 and 2026)
      c) why am I even asking you for a ‘c’ answer to the question

      A1. None of the above, because these are all squirrel answers for the future…

      Q1+. When would you like Scotland’s independent status to return?

      a) The ‘when’ is not the important bit. The important bit is SECURING a VOTE for independence FIRST. Once that has been achieved, independence will be thereafter delivered (full transitioning can take time – See Brexit.) Therefore the use of an excuse for not being able to hold a vote for indy during a health crisis is neither valid nor sustainable.

      b) The ‘when’ is not the important bit. The important bit is SECURING a VOTE for independence FIRST. Once that has been achieved, independence will be thereafter delivered (full transitioning can take time – See Brexit.)

      c) The ‘when’ is not the important bit. The important bit is SECURING a VOTE for independence FIRST.

      A1. All of the above, correct.

      Scottish Green/New SNP voters SHOULD vote Alba on the List.

      A vote FOR independence COULD be SECURED in eleven days time.

    88. Cactus says:

      Hey Dorothy.

      When your pillion days have passed, advance to go on a super-comfort-trike:

      Westminster (and NS’s New SNP) should be consigned to Room 101:

    89. Tinto Chiel says:

      Dire days at the moment: the loss of a stalwart like Pete and even The Rev. is sounding downbeat. We seem to have been led up a dark path.

      This appeared in my YT ganderbox yesterday and cheered me up a little. Seems to be a French or Belgian production:

      I loved the way Dave listens intently and respectively to his soloists (note the artful framing of his head between the clarinet and Paul Desmond’s left arm).

      The best part imo is when, after an increasingly off-piste performance by Joe Morello, where he flips the sticks and uses the butts to magnificent effect, DB simply turns his seat and returns calmly to the original piano and clarinet part.

    90. Tinto Chiel says:

      “Respectfully” obvs and it was Belgian.

      Och, bugger…………………..

    91. Dorothy Devine says:

      Prickly Pal , it looks super comfortable but they don’t have the agility of two wheels – mind you , neither do I!

      I am so looking forward to the freedom to march for Scotland and to seeing some weel kent faces again festooned in saltires!

    92. hackalumpoff says:

      Yer tea’s oot people

    93. JGedd says:

      Tinto Chiel@8.18pm 26 April

      Liked that. I think that was the first jazz record I ever bought. Think it was on an EP too. Now that’s going back a bit.

    94. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      I don’t like a lot of jazz but I do like this.

      And I’m not averse to a bit of trad. And the theme tune to the original “Casino Royale”…

    95. Daisy Walker says:

      Right folks – do not link to the below… please wait for some kindly person to archive it.

      Then when you do, you might want to enlarge the photo of Nicla and have a look at her eyes, pupils to be exact.

      They appear to be in the enlarged position, which is odd, since she is in good light? Hmmm. Normally the pupils contract in bright light.

      There are very few photographs clear enough that you can see her pupils, but this is one.

    96. Daisy Walker says:

      Sharks eyes – are similarly structured to other vertibrates including humans, in that they have retina and pupils, etc.

      Because light quality is very low in the depths of the sea, their eyes need to allow as much light to enter as possible in order to focus in on prey.

      Cocaine misuse causes the pupils of the eyes to dilate (ie open) regardless of the light conditions. For this reason many cocaine addicts will often wear sunglasses at night or indoors, as their eyes are receiving too much light and it becomes uncomfortable.

      Every day is a school day. Beware of sharks people.

    97. Dan says:

      DR link archived for you Daisy.

      I’m not convinced her pupils are dilated in that pic. I can just make out the amber of her iris which wouldn’t be visible if she was on the pukka E which can open pupils to the point it leaves around 1mm of iris colour showing.
      The dark eyes in pics may well be down to some quirk of camera tech struggling to cope with flash lights and high contrasts.
      Here is a better pic showing her eyes.

      She will be under a lot of stress both mentally and physically and that will undoubtedly be taking its toll.

    98. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Hacka: much food for thought there. The delivery was so “dry” I think some folk might take it at face value. The “military grade” chocolate on the Tunnock’s teacake was a personal favourite. Civilians can only access them directly and in person from the factory shop in Uddingston, I believe.

      @JGedd: you know it’s jazz because most the snippets of Take Five on YouTube are quite different, hee, hee. One even dispenses with a solo from Joe Morello.

      @Daisy: interesting theory but Milady Leaderene may simply have accessed the Scottish militray ration pack all in one go 😉 .

    99. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Had a telephonic blether with Qinie Frae Angus tonight.

      We agreed that any success for ALBA will be achieved by ‘the grassroots’, like it was in 2014.

      When you have people like “Wee Dundee Annie” moving from the SNP to ALBA, you know that the SNP is in trouble with losing feet on the pavements.

    100. Jock Scot says:

      Brian, Annie made it into the latest YewChoob supplemental video as did your hat. #AlbaRising

    101. Cactus says:

      Howde’s Briandoonthetoon and Jock Scot ~

      I’m within our beautiful sunny east coast. I was out covertly campaigning yesterday in Crail and have partially hidden 10 ALBA leaflets (some more prominent than others) throughout the village and surrounding coastal walks. If any locals fancy a treasure hunt… now is the time (hint, there were at least 2 leaflets placed in the harbour area.)

      I’ve got a new (but original) idea to help further promote Scotland’s ALBA Party.

      Here’s the pitch (and there is the political field).

      1) TAKE a photograph(s) with you and the word ALBA on it (poster/leaflet.)
      2) CHOOSE picture(s) to be taken by a familiar landmark or HOME.
      3) SHARE photograph(s) on your social media platforms.

      In summary…
      MAX and saturate social media with personal pictures of ALBA.

      Word up and word out.

      Note: Landscaped photos only (with ALBA) are cool too, smile. 🙂

    102. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Eh’m dae’in’ fine, Cactus.

      You may have seen my link today to

      Reminded me of the now long gone Jaggy Thistle blog. I wrote an article for it back in 2001. You can read it here –

    103. Cactus says:

      Aweright Brian, yeah I took a look at Rob’s site, it’s good stuff. It’s gonna be a long week dude, catch ye all up when timings are suitable, hopefully we’ll all have something positive to celebrate! I hope it’s warm and sunny for the physical turnout Vote on Thursday, cheers.

      What’s the point of voting for the Scottish Green Party – they’re just lapdugs to NS and her New brand of SNP – like what the LibDems are to both the London Labour and Tory parties (irrelevant) and they’re not even ‘in-to’ independence anyway – the Greens that is and it’s going to be a real shock to many of their indy supporting voters when reality bites. They’ll end up rebranding to some multi-coloured emblem no doubt. They could be The Grainbow Party.

      SO good luck for Thursday, Scotland. The Scottish People who are passionate for independence (in a timely and pro-active manner) know what to do next week. Keep getting out and back on the streets again, document Alba, talk with each other, take photographs, share yours and other peoples shares everywhere AND DO IT ALL BEFORE VOTE-DAY!

      Just add ALBA and you:

      This has been, week ending, Week 17.

      USE your Cross of Alba.


    104. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Jock.

      Dundee Annie asked me to post a message to you, saying that she feels rather chuffed when you feature her in your videos.

    105. Jock Scot says:

      Hi Brian,
      I have never met anyone with her energy or fight. Feel priviledged to have met her, you and all the Wingers. Sadly, because I’m working tomorrow, I won’t be able to pay my respects to one of the lovliest and genuine men that I have had the chance to encounter in person. I think Pete made all of our lives better for having sat with him and he is dearly missed but never forgotten.
      Send Annie my love and respect.Best wishes. X

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