Our latest Panelbase poll, conducted exclusively among SNP voters, has proven to be the most controversial we’ve ever done. So let’s see if we can get things back onto some nice safe ground: the transgender debate. (“Oh no!” – everyone)
Pictured above, front right, at the recent Dundee Pride is Shirley-Anne Somerville, the cabinet minister in charge of the second public “consultation” being held on the Scottish Government’s transgender policy. Somerville told the event that regardless of the consultation’s outcome she planned to press ahead with the “self-ID” proposals anyway, and that “trans women are women and trans men are men”. She’s almost literally nailed her colours to the mast in advance of the results – she’s wearing a jumper in the blue, pink and white horizontal stripes of the transgender flag.
And the issue of whether people with penises should be allowed to declare themselves women purely on their own say-so and access all female-only spaces unchallenged is one that’s currently tearing the SNP in two.
It’s been quite the week so far. For the vile and sickening crime of [check notes] finding out what SNP voters were thinking about the important political issues of the moment, we’ve had (especially on Facebook) a two-day barrage of stuff like this, and worse:
So, y’know, on with what we always do: reporting the facts.
Yesterday’s poll results attracted quite a surprising amount of anger from people who apparently don’t consider it at all important to the cause of independence to find out what people intending to vote SNP at the next Holyrood election think.
They’re probably not going to like these ones much either.
A third of SNP voters are unconvinced by the First Minister’s constant assurances that a second indyref will be delivered in the next 18 months. But the related question posed by several readers yesterday was “If you don’t think the SNP has a coherent strategy for securing a new vote, what would YOU do, Mister Smartypants?”
Which is annoying, because it’s a question we’ve answered in various contexts half a dozen times in the past year and a bit. So we thought we’d see if voters had been paying any more attention.
This site has repeatedly – much to the displeasure of some readers – expressed the view in 2019 that the SNP doesn’t know what it’s doing with regard to Brexit. But it turns out we’re not the only people who feel that way.
Last week we commissioned a Panelbase poll of SNP voters only (specifically those currently planning to use their Holyrood constituency vote for the party in 2021), and these were the results.
In other words, nobody has a clue what the goal is, let alone the strategy.
So we’ve done a new poll, and this one’s a little different than usual. The sample was 1007 Scottish voters who said they would vote SNP with their constituency vote at the next Holyrood election.
Which makes these findings pretty interesting.
The fact that 10% of SNP voters would either vote No in a new indyref or aren’t sure isn’t the surprising part – in fact those numbers are unusually low for that question. Historically around 15-20% of SNP voters have been opposed to independence. While that seems mad, they simply feel that the party are the best option for running the Scottish Government and are willing to gamble that independence won’t happen.
The curious part is the significant proportion of the sample – 15% – that voted No in 2014 but supports the SNP now, but of which only two-thirds has also come over to Yes. At a time when Scottish politics is supposedly completely polarised around the constitution, and when cracks are beginning to show in the party’s domestic record (under, it should be said, very difficult circumstances) and the First Minister’s personal approval ratings struggle to register a net positive, significant numbers of people still appear to be switching to them, yet are unconvinced about independence, yet the party’s voters as a whole are becoming MORE strongly pro-indy rather than less.
And if you think THAT’S confusing, folks, wait till you see the rest of the poll.
There’s less than half an hour to go and we’re holding the previous year’s World Cup finalists on their own patch. A point would be a great result, but we’ve got men up. Try to thread it through on the left. Turn, hold it up for a second and knock it out wide to the overlap on the right and get forward for a cross or a cutback. If we just wait, if we take it slow, the situation can only get better for us.
But definitely don’t waste it on a wild, optimistic punt.
Remember this guy? Go on, give it a minute, it’ll come to you.
He popped up today to chuck in his tuppence-worth about inflammatory language in politics, and how – like everything else bad – it all started with vile cybernats in 2014 (because as you’ll of course remember, it was Yes supporters who never shut up about “surrendering”) and has now sullied even the dignified halls of Westminster.
You now have less than 24 hours left to secure your copy of our intermittent cartoonist Mr Cairns’ latest beautifully-crafted volume of biting political satire featuring a cute lion. (No, not the one pictured below.)
For the love of God please don’t upset him or we’ll get more like this.
So the Supreme Court has delivered its brutal verdict. The prorogation of Parliament was completely unlawful and now, in effect, never happened. Parliament is officially still in session. The same Parliament that has stupendously failed to solve Brexit for three years can reconvene and continue to fail to solve it. What now?
Jeremy Corbyn stood up a few minutes ago at the Labour conference and demanded that Boris Johnson stand down immediately and hold a general election, as did several other opposition leaders. Which, alert readers may recall, is what Johnson tried to do, twice, barely a fortnight ago, and was blocked by the opposition.
Presumably if he tries again, they all now have to cooperate and vote for it, even though the dissolution of Parliament would render the Benn bill requiring him to ask the EU for an extension first null and void. So there’ll be a general election held on the subject of “Who rules the country – the people or the courts?”, which is what Johnson wanted all along. Um, victory?
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PS Fun trivia fact: UK electoral law requires 25 working days between the dissolution of Parliament and the date of a general election. There are exactly 27 working days (inclusive) between now and 31 October.
A few minutes later, Momentum activist Cathleen Clarke and former Tony Blair adviser John McTernan appeared on Sky News to sort it all out for confused viewers.
“Flounders” might have been a more appropriate animal.
It’s painfully entertaining viewing, but Gordon Brewer’s persistence pays off right at the end as we finally discover that Scottish Labour’s answer is “No – even if a clear majority of Scottish people vote for parties explicitly calling for a second independence referendum, and return a majority of pro-indy MSPs to Parliament, we will not consider that sufficient support.”
Which would mean there was no democratic route left open to Scotland to achieve independence. So what is it that he suggests we do?
Andouillette on No Money Back, No Guarantee: “I find it utterly sick-making that Swiney and all the other apologists are falling back on the old ‘shocked and…” May 26, 15:00
Young Lochinvar on No Money Back, No Guarantee: “I wonder if Breathy Bain having read that is now frantically clearing out her desks pen drawer 🙂 As for…” May 26, 14:55
Young Lochinvar on No Money Back, No Guarantee: “Peter Was it not that COPFS deemed it “not in the public interest”? That’s what I seem to recall.” May 26, 14:43
agentx on No Money Back, No Guarantee: “https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg5pp2pee7go Sturgeon wearing a Murrell bought pendant. https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/operation-branchform-cops-investigating-peter-31639222 Photo with Sturgeon and Jag on her drive.” May 26, 14:31
Cynicus on No Money Back, No Guarantee: ““The two fundraisers combined raised almost £700,000 but Murrell only copped a plea for misappropriating £400,000 of it, and the…” May 26, 14:22
Morgatron on No Money Back, No Guarantee: “Brilliant article again Stu. I hope every blogger, journo, MP, MSP, JK, David Davis and anyone with clout and a…” May 26, 14:20
TimePilot on No Money Back, No Guarantee: “A quick “Google” of Sturgeon signing offical documents fed into AI (see screenshot below) https://i.postimg.cc/jdZMh7yB/Pens.jpg Pen Analysis Images 1, 2,…” May 26, 13:57
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Hobbit on The Final Robbery: “This thieving began while Alex was still the leader. More generally, how could the SNP system have let the thieving…” May 26, 13:43
Richard Renier on No Money Back, No Guarantee: “No public money was stolen. So who funded the police enquiry, which cost over £1m?” May 26, 13:31
J Robertson on The Final Robbery: “As so many have said on here your investigation and reporting on this has been nothing short of magnificent Stu.…” May 26, 13:12
Ian Smith on The Final Robbery: “Didn’t the court say something about living a lifestyle he couldn’t afford. Since he had been on a six figure…” May 26, 13:01
Bobo bunny on The Final Robbery: “Candidate for being killed by hammers.” May 26, 12:46
Northcode on The Final Robbery: “You are young, Sam, and hae little knowing in the ways of ‘The Empire’… I am old (189 years last…” May 26, 12:44
Effijy on No Money Back, No Guarantee: “Sturgeon says that Murrell claimed to have won the £125K Mobile Home on Bullseye. She should have been suspicious as…” May 26, 12:41
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agentx on No Money Back, No Guarantee: “Peter Murrell, the SNP’s chief executive, loaned the party £107,620 in June 2021. Is Sturgeon saying that she knew nothing…” May 26, 12:03
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Xaracen on The Final Robbery: “That was a very interesting read, Alf, thanks. That site is now bookmarked, and its name has resonance for obvious…” May 26, 11:58
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