The great frustration of the current Brexit shambles is that we’re being told there are no viable options. But that isn’t true. This site has already put forward one perfectly workable proposal, and here’s another.
Before the 2014 referendum on Scottish independence, Scotland was told that if they left the UK, they would automatically leave the EU, leaving the rUK as the successor European state.
Scotland, it was said, would be cast out of Europe, immediately and automatically and without negotiation. Brussels agreed with Westminster on this interpretation.
This outcome of independence was said by Westminster sources to be a legal certainty, with no possibility of avoiding the consequences of being bounced out of the EU. The EU could not rescue Scotland and no treaties would exist to do so.
And that leads to a logical conclusion: if England (and perhaps Wales) decided to leave the UK instead of Scotland, leaving Scotland as the successor state in the EU, the same would be true.
That means that if Labour wait until the deal is thrown out before they call a vote of no confidence – which is their current position, so far as anyone can tell what their position is – then by the time the government falls it’ll already be February.
Add in the six weeks minimum that are required for an election campaign and you’re halfway through March, literally just a few days before the UK will automatically crash out of the EU with no deal.
Even if a couple of months extension of Article 50 were to be granted – and we’re not sure who’d be asking by that stage – that’s plainly nowhere near enough time for a new government to come up with anything the EU would agree to.
(Remember that the withdrawal agreement was supposed to be done and dusted by October in order to give the EU six months to ratify it. Their patience with the UK is plainly at an end, and it’s hard to see them agreeing to drag the whole mess out for another year or more, which would be the realistic timescale.)
“And that’s all very well”, readers might be thinking at this point, “but that’s a picture of Kezia Dugdale, an insignificant backbench Holyrood list MSP. What the bloody hell’s it got to do with her?”
We must admit we haven’t been keeping fully up to date with our Thickest Politician In Scotland rankings recently, mainly because they’ve been so deluged with submissions that we can barely scratch the backlog.
This is the 5,000th post since Wings Over Scotland began in November 2011, which is just shy of two a day, every single day, since then. We wanted such a landmark post to be something serious and significant, but in light of the utter brain-melting futility of trying to write anything sensible about politics in the UK today that won’t be overtaken by ridiculous events within seven minutes, screw it, we’re going to this instead.
So we’ll see you all later this evening for the result of Theresa May’s confidence vote. What’s the worst that could happen?
On one level you have to feel a bit sorry for Scottish Unionists. Having believed until very late in the day that they’d win a crushing victory in the 2014 indyref and put the matter to bed for a century, they’ve never been able to relax since.
And this week the fear has them well and truly in its grip.
The hapless Scottish Secretary demonstrated the lack of self-awareness for which he’s famous when he said at the weekend that the thing he warned would threaten the Union (a defeat for the PM’s Brexit deal) was going to happen on Tuesday, at which point – having said he’d resign if the Union was threatened – he’s made it absolutely clear that he ISN’T going to resign.
Brexit isn’t really this site’s remit, which is why we’ve been relatively quiet in recent weeks as the UK’s shambolic exit from the EU hogs all the news and Scottish politics has been relegated to a largely-dormant backwater in the press.
Yes supporters don’t speak with one voice on the EU, and while we’re in favour of it we’ve long said that the indy movement can’t really move on until the fog clears and we know for sure what Brexit’s going to look like. Deciding whether to be part of the EU should be a decision for an independent Scotland to make, not a precondition.
But dear lord, this is such a mess it needs to be examined.
We all knew this already, of course. Last year we commissioned a poll from Panelbase which found an enormous 41-point gap between Yes and No voters on immigration. But it was still nice to have it both confirmed and laid out so clearly by Sir John Curtice on Good Morning Scotland earlier today.
(About 1h 55m in. We’re having some trouble recording sound on our new PC at the moment, we’ll get you a proper audio link as soon as we’ve figured it out.)
It’s worth keeping to hand the next time some witless Scottish Labour goon tries to tell you that independence is bad because it’s “separatist” and that voting for the Union is the international-solidarity option. Because that’s a flat-out lie.
We now have the verdicts on Brexit from three of the UK’s four nations. The Scottish Parliament, speaking for the Scottish nation, voted overwhelmingly this afternoon to reject both Theresa May’s draft agreement and leaving the EU without a deal.
Young Lochinvar on The Invisible Rabbit: “HMcH Errrrrrrr.. That’s a No. Please accept my explanation that it no way infers respect or conviviality! PS: anyways remember…” Jul 16, 00:11
Hatey McHateface on Blue In The Face: “Scottish voters were denied their right to an Independent Scotland because not enough Scottish voters turned out to vote for…” Jul 16, 00:01
Young Lochinvar on A Matter Of Declinature: “DB Qwerty = (top line of a keyboard) is a kind of shorthand for LGBTQIgodknows what else gobbledegook gibberish freakery..…” Jul 15, 23:55
Hatey McHateface on The Invisible Rabbit: “Well, Breeks, I note you’re still of the opinion that former colonies should roll over and accept forced re-colonisation by…” Jul 15, 23:38
Hatey McHateface on The Invisible Rabbit: “Aw, YL. I’m touched to discover you’re thinking of me. I guess there’s absolutely no point in asking you to…” Jul 15, 23:30
James on The Invisible Rabbit: “Long time no see, Breeks. Best to you.” Jul 15, 23:26
Graf Midgehunter on A Matter Of Declinature: “Viagra. Take two and be a world champ” Jul 15, 23:20
Skip_NC on A Matter Of Declinature: “The assorted has-beens and never-will-bes on the BBC are blaming Tuchel and it’s not just because he went defensive very…” Jul 15, 23:18
robertkknight on A Matter Of Declinature: “Either that, or the supine media have been served DSMA-Notices and are avoiding mentioning the elephant in the room in…” Jul 15, 23:10
Captain Caveman on A Matter Of Declinature: “No one is blaming the manager, although his subs were crap. We scored a great goal with 30 minutes to…” Jul 15, 22:56
Young Lochinvar on A Matter Of Declinature: “Viagra.. For when you can’t make it past a semi.. PS; Its just a game 🙂” Jul 15, 22:43
Andy Wiltshire on A Matter Of Declinature: “Great stuff – you can almost imagine the rising panic as they read it. Squeaky bum time!” Jul 15, 22:36
Confused on A Matter Of Declinature: “INGLUND have “HEARTS-ED IT” LAVVERLY JABBLY – now let’s play : BLAME THE MANAGER ‘es a bit forun innee ……” Jul 15, 22:25
Andrew scott on A Matter Of Declinature: “YAH BEAUTY Btw how come that horror who “works” for Aberdeen uni is still in a job after HIS terrible(now…” Jul 15, 21:53
Oneliner on A Matter Of Declinature: “Indeed. Prior to his resignation, Healy was the last Defence Secretary to call out the SNP as being ‘a threat…” Jul 15, 21:13
robertkknight on A Matter Of Declinature: “The more they (Police Scotland/COPFS) squirm the more it smacks of someone in Thames House playing the National Security card…” Jul 15, 20:36
Carol Neill on A Matter Of Declinature: “Dug wi a bone , wish we had more of you” Jul 15, 20:13
Aidan on A Matter Of Declinature: “@RevStu – has anyone initiated the victims right to review with respect to the original complaint? I’ve no doubt that…” Jul 15, 19:51
diabloandco on A Matter Of Declinature: “Young Lochinvar, sorry you lost me with your comment , can you explain – I know being old restricts my…” Jul 15, 19:33
Mark Beggan on A Matter Of Declinature: “Qwertys days are numbered. Just like that mentally unstable transvestite who calls himself Confused.” Jul 15, 19:22
100%Yes on The Invisible Rabbit: “We should protest outside Holyrood or Bute house demanding Swinney is removed from office and investigated.” Jul 15, 18:56
100%Yes on The Invisible Rabbit: “We shout protest outside Holyrood or Bute house demanding Swinney is removed from office and investigated.” Jul 15, 18:56
100%Yes on The Invisible Rabbit: “I have been arguing since 2015 on here about the SNP and Sturgeon true commitment to Independence being Nil. Its…” Jul 15, 18:25
Young Lochinvar on A Matter Of Declinature: “Talking of lawyers letters I see JK Rowling has made qwerty captured Amnesty back down after putting out a qwerty…” Jul 15, 18:12
Jeannie McCrimmon on A Matter Of Declinature: “Under your instructions. That ? was a wee emoji.” Jul 15, 18:08
Sean Duffy on A Matter Of Declinature: “Succinct, and elegantly addresses the question of why the Police Scotland failed in their statutory duties to fully investigate what…” Jul 15, 17:56
Rev. Stuart Campbell on A Matter Of Declinature: “Roddy and David are obviously doing most of the heavy lifting here 😀” Jul 15, 17:54
Young Lochinvar on The Invisible Rabbit: “AX Well at least I made it to the end 🙂 (Hatey for instance has problems reading things like oaths…” Jul 15, 17:48