Not out
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December 12, 2018 by
Rev. Stuart Campbell
This is the 5,000th post since Wings Over Scotland began in November 2011, which is just shy of two a day, every single day, since then. We wanted such a landmark post to be something serious and significant, but in light of the utter brain-melting futility of trying to write anything sensible about politics in the UK today that won’t be overtaken by ridiculous events within seven minutes, screw it, we’re going to this instead.
So we’ll see you all later this evening for the result of Theresa May’s confidence vote. What’s the worst that could happen?
No, really, we’re asking.
Happy 5000th post!
Hope it doesn’t take 5000 more until we are independent!
Krystalnacht.
With the way the day is unfolding, it’s anyone’s guess but I am personally rooting for Ross the boss for PM!
Been reading wings twitter as usual and have not laughed so much from the comments this morning.
Politics is not meant to be funny, is it?
I thought it might have been a spectacular emergency kitten special (or soup of the day).
Lol, for four minutes I forgot how crap the UK is.
DO. NOT. GO. OUT. TODAY!
#ZOMBIEPOCALYPSE
Kirsteen for PM?
Also? Awesome 5K milestone. 🙂
5k – who’d imagine?
5k more? Or will Scotland have its independence before that.
One can only hope.
Best place to get a handle on what’s happening in Scottish / UK politics and 5000 posts is a huge contribution to peoples knowledge of things that directly effect their lives.
Well done. 🙂 🙂
PS: Oh!
Corbyn getting angry at PM’s Qs maybe gathering his loins for a VONC…..Naw!
Steppeth Up, Ruth the Tank Commander!
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Plenty of time to arrange an emergency by-election, vote her into the UK top job, and finish a game of bowls in Gibraltar before repulsing the EU on 21st January.
Worst thing that could happen? In 5 words: “Boris Johnston becomes Prime Minister”.
What a ignorant woman May is,not a Lab fan but not one straight answer from May,what a bloody shambles wake up Scotland get out of this Union.
May greetin face
It will all end in tears.
What a rabble.
What a good question! On balance, I think the worst that _could_ happen is that Mrs May wins this evening, and then manages to get her deal through Parliament by delay until the last possible moment.
Congratulations Stu. 5,000 brilliant posts supporting Scottish independence is a unique contribution. In the face of all the false accusations, the attempts to close you down, to prevent people from reading these articles, you have prevailed.
Hope it doesn’t take another 5,000 before we can celebrate our freedom.
That’s a bit strange.
But compared to Westminster, perfectly normal.
We are taking a short intermission while popcorn is served, please do not adjust your set. We’d give you a test card but a lot of people don’t like playing cricket, many of them MPs for the Tories and Labour and, errr, that other party that isn’t the SNP who are led by ooops, I forget right now.
Theresa May just said @”PMQs
No matter how small the margin of a referendum result that is the result that must be respected
We should hold on to that quote for the future
Congrats Stu for keeping us well informed and sane.
More power to yer elbow
Congratulations Stu on the 5000th post.
Been with Wings since early 2012 and still supporting you and this site.
Great contributions to the Indy cause.
Keep them coming. Not long to go now surely.
Happy 5000th post day..
As for the worst that could happen…. I always like to refer to Ghostbusters in these, or similar circumstances.
Peter Venkman: …or you could accept the fact that this city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions.
Mayor Lenny: What do you mean, “biblical”?
Ray Stantz: What he means is Old Testament, Mr. Mayor. Real Wrath-of-God type stuff!
Peter Venkman: Exactly.
Ray Stantz: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
Egon Spengler: 40 years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes!
Winston Zeddemore: The dead rising from the grave!
Peter Venkman: Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!
Or, more likely, feck all…
Cos she’ll probabaly win the vote and square 1 will be reached, again…
May is likely to survive this internal Tory squabble. Even if she didn’t Scotland would still be in the same powerless situation. Angus MacNeil nails it.
link to thenational.scot
5k and a brilliant job you’re doing Stuff.
Worst thing? Fuck knows but do I recall someone saying this would be a boring year for pollyticking?
Currently, May the Dreadnaught with all the charisma of a rowboat up the proverbial creek with no paddle.
Like a poor captain, taking the ship down with her.
FFS, just bloody well go!
I hope we get there Stu.
When we do, you’ll have played a significant part with these 5000 articles.
At best, they convert and convince. At their least they galvanise us footsoldiers, giving us the knowledge to convert and convince.
I was so happy and relieved when you decided to carry on after the indyref result.
Thank you.
Well done Stuart.You keep me sane,almost.
Worst thing would be gov of Nat unity, extension/rescinding of A50 after some ‘people’s vote’ and Scotland remains an English colony indefinitely.
I’m goni say:
May gone by the weekend.
JRM as PM by end of year.
Negotiation over.
No deal.
No backstop.
Chaos all round.
Ireland United in 2 years with a bit bloodshed either side. Scotland independent in a similar time frame.
Worst case scenario like. Cani see the being a general election or even a second euref. It’s either no deal or no brexit now I reckon.
Dr Jim @12.30 pm
Pity that didn’t apply in 1979. No constitution no rules – Britnats just make it up as they go along to suit themselves at that point in time.
I do agree however that the comment will make it harder but not impossible for Britnats to do something different in the future if that suits them.
Dissolve the Treaty of Union now – it has never been fit for purpose for Scotland.
Rev Stu: “Nothing’s happening today.”
The UK Government: “Hold my mace.”
Corbyn: “Is it Wednesday or Rotherham?”
Scotland: “Meh. Yer awrite. See ye, pal.”
The end.
5000 posts, just equates to getting an incredible amount of facts out there to a huge readership and then spread beyond those who come here.
Do you have a tally of how many POSTS that equates to over those 5000 posts ?
If not, am not volunteering to count them…jhst saying. Haha
Congratulations on your 5k post. The only source of sanity in all the madness.
Feeling cynical anyone ?
Of course, the cynic says, its all a tory ploy to strengthen her hand in the party.
Have a leadership contest, and win it, seemingly beating her brexit rebels.
Wait as long as possible to hold cancelled vote, so it becomes Her deal or No deal.
We already know it will be rejected, so she stays in charge, and the fannies get their hardest of brexit and the tories blame everyone who voted down her deal for the shambles to follow.
She then calls an election and with everyone blaming opposition for no deal…boom…tories win a majority.
Of course, thats just a cynics view…..
More to come, which may rather affect the ‘cynical view’ in my last post…
More fun to come, 3 other things…
1. A VONC in the Government.
2. The Continuity Bill verdict causing a constitutional crisis however if goes.
3. Scotsgov calling a referendum and demanding a S.30 or else.
The only thing the media can agree on is that SNP are definitely BAD!!!
Hammond says the vote tonight will flush out the extremists. As far as I am concerned all the Tory party MPs are right wing extremists. USA is moving to the right and dragging England along with it. Westminster is just going to get more and more right wing and English voters will vote for it.
Well done on the 5000th and well done on remaining one of the key places to get proper news and analysis.
What’s the worst that could happen? It’s hard to consider anything that Westminster does as the least worst thing. It’s all completely stupid and harmful.
Maybe the worst thing is that we don’t seize the chance at the right time to break free.
Your 1st post is as significant as your 5000 & every other post in between. Thank U Stu for giving US Wingers the privilege in being part of this WoS site & long may that continue .
Well done, Rev. Can we give Treeza-doll some pancakes? Oh – mibbees naw.
Just think though – if she hadn’t bottled it and pulled the Meaningful Vote (which she would have lost by a huge margin), then she would undoubtedly be toast today. Pulling the MV will probably save her skin today although I think she will be badly wounded.
Still going for my view though that, in a secret ballot, she’ll only get 40% support (just ’cause I’m contrary).
Congrats Rev on the 5000 milestone. It’s been a helluva journey so far!!
As to tonight – May to win, and then back to pushing ‘her’ deal through Parliament that will then get shot down in flames …which then leaves us in a world of desolation.
Because …what else is there?! She goes back to the EU (again) and asks for changes (which she won’t get). As more Tory MP’s howl for her to resign (she won’t), Corbyn will continue to strut his stuff at PMQ’s on a Wednesday, talking of ‘no confidence motions and the need for a GE’ (which he will never implement) …and so …we just continue to slide to absolute oblivion.
And as the rudderless HMS Britannica sails towards the iceberg on the 29th March, hardcore Unionist Scots begin to feel the creeping fear of dread, as they watch the vast majority of their disillusioned Scottish countrymen, realise that the UK is bankrupt and broken country with little or no future and begin to talk of (shhhh…) ‘independence’.
Aye …what are the Scottish Unionists to do, one wonders. LOL
Well done Boss for bringing a bit of sanity in a mad world. Worst thing? would be if all of us are still moaning on the site in another 8 years.(No chance surely)
@geeo
You ‘May’ not be far away from the mark there!
“Anything can happen in the next half hour” 🙂
I noticed that Ruth peeked out from behind her baby box long enough to make a comment supporting May. But she scuttled back into hiding again in case somebody asked her a hard question. Ruth doesn’t do hard questions.
Will proudly hoist my W.O.S flag up my flagpole tonight as appreciation to all your hard work… Cheers Rev 🙂
Theresa May will win. Thus emboldened she will struggle on for a year – in the meantime, we will leave Europe.
Ireland will unite and the DUP will move to Scotland bringing their knuckle draggers with them. A new Unionists in Scotland Party will emerge and get the message over that Brexit is not that bad all funded by dark money. The SNP will limp along waiting for the time to act, losing support. Scotland becomes a playground for the wealthy tax evaders who love the new UK and all our young people move elsewhere and so it goes on…
Congratulations on your 5K posts!
Sorry about that post – you did ask!
Congratulations. Also, sorry you’ve not been able to take your well-earned retirement. We have need of you yet.
Enjoy your afternoon off. Someone’s sure to have resigned by the time you’re home. Fingers crossed.
Congratulations Stu. 🙂
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I don’t say this lightly, but this is the worst British political crisis since Wednesday.
Congratulations, well done and thank you so much Rev..
Your an absolute Star..
As to the worst thing…
All the Supreme Court Judges meet with mysterious “Accidents “ and no one can find the record of their judgement!!
Congratulations Stu. A voice of sanity in a mad world. (Never thought I would say that).
Congrats.
Keep up the good work.
Here’s to a happier healthier independent future.
You will be emigrating post indy right?
will they publish the result tonight? even if treeza wins, corbyn will know if there are enough dissenters to carry a VONC in the commons
Congrats Stu – keep up the good work!
Worst thing to happen is Nicola calls IndyRef2 and May immediately revokes article 50 and we lose IndyRef2 as there is no material change…
Losing IndyRef was terrible feeling the next day, losing IndyRef2 would be the worst that could happen by far.
@ schrodingers cat 1.43
Are you confident in Corbyn’s ability to count?
I was happy when Corbyn defeated the Blairites twice in a leadership contest but he has shown no talent, principle or gumption as leader. Very disappointing. The SNP is now the ILP of Keir Hardie’s time, replacing Labour.
Whereas the Rev has performed magnificently against huge difficulties [Met Police taking his computers for 3 months, the Kezia Dugdale case etc etc] not only with his 5000 posts but with the incredible feat of producing, with his team, the Wee Blue Book, that almost won us the 2014 referendum. I expect everything is in train for the next one. Boundless gratitude, thank you, Rev.
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This business of the Tories fighting amongst themselves is a distraction from the real business of Empire.
I want to know when the ships set sail on the new buccaneering adventures to secure the new world trading empire like we woz promised. Empire 2!
When does that happen? How do I sign up as one of the crew? Do I get to wear a costume like Charlie Drake the great Elizabethan pirate? All the while shouting the battle cry of the empire – “hallo my darlings!”
Am I allowed to run through the fuzzy wuzzies with my trusty cutlass? Can’t wait for that one, we’ll show them who the bosses are.
Will Richard Leonard and Wullie what’s-his-name flock to the Jack with their legions of willing followers.
When do we get to attack in the other direction like we did at Dunkirk and put the wind up the Jerries?
I want to hear spitfires again. In fact we should have canned spitfire sounds played on a loop over loud speakers on every street. Just like in WW2.
Those sun drenched uplands beckon. A new dawn, a new empire, it’s ours for the taking. No one will dare stand in our way. Huzzah!
Well done for a remarkable blog that has been essential reading for many, not just in Scotland. Thank you. I suspect you’ve converted many die-hard unionists into voting for independence next time round, simply to keep you and WGD quiet in future! One hopes both will continue..
Congratulations, celebrations very soon and thank you for all your great work.
Congratulations and thank you for opening my eyes to quite a lot of things I would otherwise have been unaware of.
Well done Stu. You are an important figure in our fight for freedom from Westminster.
I think it was early 2012 I started posting on here, and was a regular Winger.
I lost my mojo over the last couple of years and hardly post any more.
Hopefully another campaign is around the corner and I can become enthused again.
If May as expected wins tonight, Corbyn should go for a VoNC asap.
Think about it, with May securely in place for another year, the mad tory brexiteers may just be angry enough to do something really stupid. Definitely worth a try. 🙂
I think you are being a bit harsh Rev
don’t you know the Tories are ‘batting for britain’
Lets not forget what the Tories are saying.
“A win is a win even if it is only by 1 vote.”
Forgot to say. Congratulations Stu long may you continue.
Congrats Stu on getting to 5k, just a pity there was so much media cr*p to expose along the way.
I won’t wish you a toast to the next 5k because I dearly hope we can all escape from this UK madhouse long before then, and finally get on with our lives, building a new country fit for heroes like you.
5000 posts on Wings, congrats, Stu, a milestone on the road to Independence. Well done!
It may have been Robin Day who described John Knott as ‘ A here today, gone tomorrow politician’, but if ever an individual was made to fit that phrase, it is surely Theresa May.
Nick ‘Mr Conservative’ Robinson tried once to pin that phrase on Alex Salmond, but failed miserably.
In the Surkov world of political theatre frequented by the Tories, today will end with yet another mind numbing decision, leaving us all wondering for the umpteenth time, what was that all about’
-but none the wiser.
Congratulations Stu – long may you continue
OT..Sorry, trying to give a young Yesser ammunition for his No voting friends!!
What exactly was it that Neil Oliver called us?
and what was the name of the battle before Culloden when The Scots found a secret track over marshland to attack?
I know I know this stuff… but brain fog is active at the moment…. LOL
I don’t need anybody to trouble themselves with links, just a reminder will do..
FYI… his debate is about the Central Belt knowledge of Irish History in comparison to our own, and why this is?
Thanks in advance.
The Tories are trying their best to force another GE. They want Labour to win that GE so they take the blame for the mess.
The Westminster Party is a clever Party, and they wear Blue and Red badges to confuse the masses, and keep the illusion of choice going.
you can smell the burning gammon going ballistic on the BBC website. Apologies for the mixed metaphors.
5000 up and still at the crease….good man. I sincerely hope it wont be 5000 more before we get independence. However come the great day, and if you are still in the mood for it, I’d like you to stick around to help keep our new parliament on its toes. It needs guys like you to stop it sinking into the mire aka Westminster.
“Ruth Davidson backs Theresa May ahead of confidence vote” that will turn out well
In extra vivid colour these events display what being British is all about. Scotland is no ‘partner’, just England’s northern extension.
Whatever might ensue in Westminster Scots are plainly being dragged along on England’s coat tail and there seems no end to that demeaning situation in sight. We appear a nation of gobbling Christmas turkeys.
If there’s some crafty escape strategy in the SNP leadership’s mind, it would give joy to many to have it manifest before we end up in the oven.
Liz – I seem to remember being called a cancer though not 100% sure if it was Oliver.
1689 Battle of Killiecrankie?
“…If there’s some crafty escape strategy in the SNP leadership’s mind…”
Still concern trolling. Aye – we see you alright.
@Liz g
It was the Battle of Prestonpans.
link to clan-cameron.org
Big day for WOS – many congratulations.
Can we please have a ‘Best Of The Best’ Bumper WOS Book? It would be a splendid object fit to grace any coffee table, and worth doing if for no other reason than to collect blurbable quotes from frothing Yoons.
What, for example, might Hothersall, Leasky or McTernan have to say? I’m reminded of Banksy’s book, which has only one blurb, on the back:
😉
Congratulations to WoS! For having kept me sane all these years.
I only wish the SNP were as politically astute, knowledgeable and as politically feisty as the contributors here. But I daresay we have to wait as ‘ye canny hit a movin target’.
Congrats on 5k, that movie looks ace, loved that preciew.
Liz G: The battle you are thinking of was Prestonpans. Scottish victory against English troops led by Cope. The Scots were helped by one of their number having local knowledge of a way through marshland etc. You will find the details quite easily on the internet.
What Neil Oliver said I have no idea. I never ever pay the slightest attention to that man …
What will happen next:
She will win the vote tonight – We are going to the wire with the Maybot. It will be her deal or apocalypse now on offer.
The next few years will be dreadful even with her deal.
Ever time we think “It can’t get any worse, it does”
The NO voters in Scotland continue to hesitate and start to trust Corbyn again.
…I give up and move abroad
Please prove me wrong, please!
@ Liz G: not strictly relevant to your quest but for interest, my brother-in-law did his National Service in the Seaforths at Fort George, and at 06.00 they would be woken by a piper playing “Hey Johnny Cope, are ye waukin’ yet”!! The point being that Cope was caught napping, literally, at Prestonpans.
I see that Labour MP Dennis Skinner has given a reason for swearing at Glasgow South MP Stewart McDonald.
According to Dennis, he wanted to put the SNP “in their place” because “he (Stewart) attacks Jeremy Corbyn every time he stands up and I’ve told him before he is part of the opposition and he should concentrate on attacking the real enemy.”
All of which I find strange considering Dennis Skinner’s Labour colleagues in Scotland openly work with “the real enemy” on a daily basis.
Unless of course Dennis is not being accurate in referring to the Tory Party as the enemy, when in fact they are best buddies of both Dennis and the Labour branch office in Scotland.
Well done Stu, many congratulations. I don’t know how you do it, I’d be totally off my head by now with all the crap that you have to wade through.
You keep a lot of us sane and that’s a big thing.
Any thoughts on what you’ll do when we get our independence? Just retire and chill out, or a holiday of a lifetime perhaps. That’ll be after you flit back to Scotland. LOL.
‘I predict that the day will come when at some point or other on some issue or other you will have to make a stand, and I pray God that when that day comes we may not find that through an unwise policy we are left to make that stand alone’
Winston Churchill, 1938
Liz G
Second Battle of falkirk was 17January 1746
Dennis Skinner is an arse,,,he is the typical multi millionaire champagne socialist.
He has been in the Labour Party for decades and pretended to be the voice of the working class.
A prize prick in every sense of the word.
Congrats Stu on reaching a very significant milestone.
Will you be returning home after our IndyRef2 victory???
Maybe as an MP in an Independent Scotland ?
Well done the Rev and Wings in general for everything leading to this 5000th.
As to what’s the worst ? Theresa May surviving tonight just depresses me something rotten.
@Giving Goose.
Skinner plays a vital part in the Westminster charade, even though he might not realise that himself.
‘Look at the broad spectrum of opinion we have’, they can say, pointing to him as a fierce left winger.
The Westminster Party has members of every colour and political belief. You can vote for anyone you like, but the Westminster Party always wins.
Skinner is a sad figure nowadays.
Worst thing?
The Tories get struck by sanity lightning and call off Brexit altogether and we’re stuck in this insane Perpetual Tory-run Union until there is another ‘material change’!
Ok, it’s a very long shot but crazy things are happening. 🙁
Either way, in or out of the EU, Scotland needs to get out of this colonial prison!
Hearty Congrats and Many Thanks to Rev. Stuart, the Wizard of WoS … Also to all those who contribute to the pro-independence movement by posting here with positive and sincere intent … And, of course, to all the readers of WoS, who help to make WoS the resounding and influential success that it undoubtedly is.
Let’s also acknowledge opponents who may feel aggrieved, annoyed, scared, scandalized, perplexed or even simply apoplectic on account of WoS. They too play their own very important and significant role in the matter, giving obvious encouragement, consolation and delight. So a big thank you to all of them.
As the Wizard himself remarks, approvingly quoting one Terry Pratchett (author): “It’s not worth doing something unless someone, somewhere, would much rather you weren’t doing it.”
For that quote, and many a good piece of advice which all contributors to WoS should continually keep in mind, go to ‘About’, on the top right hand corner of the WoS site, and press ‘more’. A re-read of what Rev. Stu posted there, and taking what he said seriously, would do us all a lot of good. It would also be an excellent way of showing our gratitude to him for all the mighty work he has done for the cause, and for all of us, over the past 5,000 posts. Many thanks to him, and more power to his elbow …
Liz g says:
12 December, 2018 at 2:36 pm
OT..Sorry, trying to give a young Yesser ammunition for his No voting friends!!
What exactly was it that Neil Oliver called us?
If I remember correctly, he called the YES campaign in 2014 a “hatefest”, but then failed to elaborate on any instance of hatred or bitterness occurring.
Happy 5,000th post to Wingsoverscotland.com
I hope the next celebration after Christmas and Ne’erday will be the celebration that Scotland has voted AYE for independence.
So, we can build a propserous, democratic and successful wee country. Instead of the undemocratic shambles called the UK, where Scotland’s voice is given no consideration and some people are forced to rely on foodbanks to survive.
Neil Oliver Pft
Yeah, thousands of us died because we loved the union so much
Murdo Fraser – spokesman for the selfish & the greedy.
Emergency!
Check Wings twitter feed.
Those evil English are so appalled the Rev has reached 5000 posts that they’re tempting him with his own cinema!
I am sure Skinner was one of the12. Labour MPs., who voted and brought down J.,Callachan then blamed the SNP for with I think 6 MPs., for letting in Thatcher aye he’s some left winger
Congratulations. I have learnt a great deal over these past few years.
Hope it’s not long now until Independence
I reckon Stu’s the ideal man to head-up Scotland’s press regulating body.
Conservatives – the party of backstabbers. Et tu, Brute.
Another thank you for your sanity saving!
OT I heard an advert on Classic FM for Morrison’s booze at 15 quid a bottle but not in Scotland. I mentioned this to a friend who told me that it was the Scottish Governments fault – can anyone deny or confirm this ?
Can somebody please explain to Willie Rennie – the principal reason d’etre for the SNP is to secure Scottish Independence.
Therefore, setting aside Independence is a no-no, it is the ultimate really thick red line for the SNP.
Independence is the founding principle of the SNP – does the Liberal-Democrat Party have a founding principle, or indeed, any principle?
handclapping says:
Kirsteen for PM? Lol. In fact close to ROFL 🙂
I think the situation over Brexit is hairy enough without her.
Socrates MacSporran says:
” – does the Liberal-Democrat Party have a founding principle, or indeed, any principle?”
You still need to ask? ……or is that just a rhetorical question which I can safely ignore?
Well the years roll on Stu,I first found you before you updated your blog to this one. 2012/2013, only missed days I have been on holiday since then. I still would not miss it now. Well done for your efforts and all work done.
Too many great posts too remember.
Well done Stu – hope you’re celebrating with a big bag of sweets!!!
@Dorothy Devine
I believe it is because of minimum pricing. I bought a litre of Russian Standard Vodka in Wiltshire last week for £15, but the offer doesn’t apply in Scotland.
I wouldn’t call it Scot Govts ‘fault’ as such, but more, a consequence of the Scot Govt making attempts to improve the health of folk in Scotland.
I have a mate who said he will be stocking up with booze at Berwick due to the cheapness, whereas I’d prefer to put a few quid extra in to the Scottish economy for my alcohol dependency, than the economy of a country who’s political elite are hell bent on causing irreparable damage to the economy of mines… all in the name of empire and nostalgic xenophobia.
What’s the worst that could happen?
The Ruthfhurer for leader of the Conservatives and Unionists and maybe PM,
she`s been afay quite ,keeping out the way,ready to strike when the time is right.
Ihave a funny feeling about how the tories have conducted themselves over the vote tonight. Has all this been a set up to string out time so no alternative can be found?, with most of them who voted against will now vote for her?
All done to time out the chance of a peoples vote?
Dorothy Devine @ 4.33
Can’t speak to what the advertisers are up to there but.
As I understand it, it’s only the cheep “wreck the hoose juice” that will go up in price!
Couldn’t argue the details though but…
1ltr of Baileys is,as is usual, at this time of year on offer for £12 in Asda!
Colin Alexander @4.02pm
You said that with so much passion. Aye right fake independence supporter. Best start looking for a job soon as your services will no longer be required.
Liz g @ 2:36 pm
Re- Neil Oliver and his remarks on Scottish independence. See this in The National from May 2016:
link to thenational.scot
It refers to an article Oliver had just published in The Sunday Times. In it he uses terms such as ‘hate fest’ and ‘cancerous presence’. The National reports that: “Even Labour’s Blair McDougall suggested the article was extreme.”
If you want the original, the Sunday Times article can be found here: link to thetimes.co.uk. I won’t be registering to read it again.
Oliver’s piece stuck in my mind not just for being extremely unpleasant – which it is. It seemed very telling that Oliver was using this kind of language c. 18 months AFTER the referendum, long after the time when the inflamed passions of a campaign could ever be an excuse for it – which of course they shouldn’t. Can one can detect something ‘quite dark’ in his views?
Scot Findlayson @0457pm “ the ruthfhurer” , “she’s been afay quiet keeping out of the way”.
I fully expect her on the stroke of the poll closing at 2000 to announce the result. Has she possibly got some inside information on the “ postal vote” for those unable to make it upstairs to committee room (20) 14 ?
The cheap booze offers down south are an humanitarian initiative because Scots can escape the Brexit catastrophe by turning to independence but our English friends can only turn to drink.
Mind that old calculator that Andy Kerr had, who then gave it to Jackie B… well it seems to have got lost in the SLab bunker as they did not have an alternative Scottish budget today.
They used their letter to Santa instead. FGS!
What are they like eh? 🙂
Dorothy Devine @t 4:33 pm
Re- “Morrison’s booze at 15 quid a bottle but not in Scotland.”
This link may help explain. It also shows how you might compare and contrast prices between Scotland and in the rUK on SPECIFIC alcohol product offers. I think you would need to do this for a proper comparison.
link to groceries.morrisons.com
Liz G
I know you said not to bother with a link but it was quicker and easier than typing out all the vitriol spouted by Neil Oliver link to thenational.scot
Congratulations Stu. I’ve been logging on to WOS from pretty well it’s beginning.you have/ are providing a huge service towards an independent Scotland.
Worst that can happen – for the UK, or Scotland? Boris Johnson as PM.
For the UK he would make the UK’s little Englanders “just get on with it” brigade content.
And for Scotland he will piss off the Scots with his boorish disinterest/ignorance of Scotland and boost support for independence.
Thanks for information everyone , I will be doing a bit of research in all departments!
Och!Neil Oliver , he of the ‘immigration’ to describe the Highland clearances can awa an bile his wee heid. Prof Tom devine is an actual historian and infinitely preferable to the heid tosser.
Here’s a link to the S**r A**a Pipe Band’s first full rehearsal.
Stirring stuff on a very special day for us all.
Hoots tae the Wingers!
twitter.com/HailAlbaPD/status/1072853481927704576
Ach, FFS, the filter even catches banned words if they’re ‘one word’ and in a link…
🙁
Replace HailCaesar! with the S**r and A**a and that should be it.
Despite claims of Tory duplicity, May is considered a 1/7 favorite to win by the bookies. While another set of gamblers have backed May; the FTSE 100 rallying and Pound Sterling rising against the dollar, after respective recent poor performances. On RT.
Place your bets.
Wow – well done the Rev! 5,000 and still rolling along!!!
and what a day for it all.
Weak-kneed Corbyn has just allowed May a year of uninterrupted control. The only government to found in contempt of Parliament, that lost three votes in 2 hours last week and who pulled a crucial vote that should have happened tonight and might never happen
now, may be about to win a vote of ‘ confidence’ on false pretences because ‘now is not the time, stupid schoolboys’.
If Corbyn had called it, we could be facing a GE BUT he missed the chance and blew it!
She’ll get back in, but better the devil you know.
How Nicola deals with this is anyone’s guess – if she calls INDY ref 2 T May could cancel Article 50 or call a second EU ref and pull away the carpet under her feet.
All to play for and none!
Best to keep the powder dry of a bit yet and articles like Neil Oliver’s can only help increase the support for Indy.
Another ‘tray-tor’ – maybe he’ll move south once we are in charge.
Perhaps he and Fluffy will get on well together.
Margaret Beckett on radio just said she wouldn’t trust T May one bit and if she says she won’t lead them into the next GE, then more fool them if they believe her.
Off to make some fresh tea and get the popcorn out.
Happy W.O.S. ANNIVERSARY.
Brilliant Stu – Thanks are hardly enough for your efforts and huge contribution.It will be noted and rewarded – you really are one of Scotland’s foremost national heroes.
It doesn’t matter to us freedom thinking Scots who’s in charge of Westminster , we’re still in the same shithole as we were this morning , dont be disappointed whether its a Red or Blue party , nothing will change our direction OUT OF UK .
I don’t know what I would do without Wings. Been a tricky time for the Rev with the polis and Dugdale etc, but I’ll always support you.
With profound thanks and congratulations on the 5K post.
Here’s to a couple of hundred more, before you switch to how well the newly independent state of Scotland is doing.
Did anybody notice that a new section of the Aberdeen bypass was opened today.
Amazing what the Tories will do to distract attention from the new road oh! and the Scottish Budget.
Aye, but (t)Ruthless has said T May has ‘balls of steel’ and she’s backing her.
(t)Ruthless has probably been filling in all the secret ballot slips today so that she’ll know the result by now.
You have to feel sorry for Boris – he went and got his hair cut special-like cos he thought it was his chance.
Congrats Stu, Wings is my daily read over many years – the only journalist of any note in Scotland (even though…..).
More power to your elbow young man – you’ll get us over the line, I’m sure!!
In Scotland one unit of Alcohol must not be sold at less than 50p,
1lt of RUSSIAN STANDARD VODKA,
bottle size 1000ml x strength ABV 38% divided by 1000 = the amount of units,
so 38 units at 50p a unit = £19
it would be against the law to sell this item in Scotland at less than £19.
cearc says: at 4:25 pm
I reckon Stu’s the ideal man to head-up Scotland’s press regulating body.
Seconded
Meg merrilees says:
12 December, 2018 at 5:51 pm
How Nicola deals with this is anyone’s guess – if she calls INDY ref 2 T May could cancel Article 50 or call a second EU ref and pull away the carpet under her feet.
All to play for and none!
Best to keep the powder dry of a bit yet and articles like Neil Oliver’s can only help increase the support for Indy.
Indeed. Well said, Meg. This is excruciatingly frustrating for hard core indy supporters, but we do have to wait until the EU dust settles. To go prematurely on this would be to lose everything. WM will have to face the music sooner or later, so we might as well enjoy the festive season and prepare for the big battles next year. Besides, why interrupt your enemy…… 🙂
Only a handful of dominoes left to fall. They haven’t fallen yet, but boy they are wobbling fiercely. There is still so much uncertainty, we cannot go just yet until it all becomes obvious. Many soft NO’s are also thinking along these lines, IMO. I have faith that Nicola will know when to pull the trigger and boy when she does, they won’t know what hit em. 🙂
Hold!, Hold!. 🙂
George Freeman MP says
“Powerful & moving moment in the #1922 as the PM makes clear that she has has listened, heard & respects the will of the Party that once she has delivered an orderly Brexit, she will step aside for the election of a new Leader to lead the reunification & renewal we need. Respect. ”
https://
twitter.com/georgefreemanm
p/status/1072900727243268096
…
May probably wants to go but her masters will not let her. She is needed to “finish the job”. She definitely is not interested in her “deal”, but I do wonder what her cunning plan really is:
1. No deal
2. Remain
It’s either of these. I have no idea which, but like Mundell, she will do her masters’ bidding – to the end. We will find out soon enough, I suppose.
The Tories continuing on their way – like a duke in his gilded carriage passing through a country village ravaged by the Plague.
Thanks to all who took the time and trouble to reply to my questions…
WOS at it’s best… everyone who can making,an effort to furnish other Wingers with the information they have asked for.. and then some,the information about playing Hey Jonny Cope was good to have too.
it was indeed Prestonpans I was thinking of…. knew it the as soon as I read it,but the name just wouldn’t come to me.
As for Neil Oliver,( and since this is no a place of work) there’s a few more Scots up to speed with that piece of shit!
So many thanks once again…
Wayhay 5K
ROSS FOR BOSS
link to mobile.twitter.com
😉
Hi Ian Brotherhood.
Strange… weird… spook!
Nana posted that Sa*r Al*a link at 2.32pm on the previous page. HailCaesar! replaced the banned words – but the link took you to the page onnyhoo.
link to twitter.com
Same with your link. I highlighted it in your comment, dragged it to the tab bar, and the correct page opened.
And congrats to Rev Stu for reaching the 5000 post milestone. I wonder if Scotland will be in dependent before WOS reaches a million comments? Only 186,252 to go (as I type).
Had Mundell & May been French at the outbreak of WW2, I can imagine them as informers for the Nazis.
Betrayal suits them. It certainly does now, in our own time.
And the above link works!
SHAZBOT!
“in dependent” should be “independent”!
@Ian Brotherhood,
Saw/seen them on a twitter link,
i played the pipes in the school band,still give the chanter a blaw now and again,
like my fitba career i was more enthusiastic than talented,
do you know if they are going to get a uniform,and if so what tartan,
although each with their own tartan would convey the spirit of all Scotland`s clans coming together for a better Scotland.
Question…
If May survives the vote of confidence from her own party, does that preclude a vote of confidence from the whole House of Commons?
@breeks.
No. But could make it less likely to succeed.
Congratulations on the 5000.
I have always known this site is where Scots can get the truth and best analysis and information about what is actually happening.
Brit media, stopped believing it a long time ago, can’t even watch or read it now without having a chuckle.
Congrats Rev, and thank you
RE: the Sa*r Al*a pipes and drums.
This could start with one piper and one side drummer. When it gets to the bit in the video where the pipers come in, that’s where the whole SAP&D come in.
I can hear it in my head! Brilliant!
link to youtube.com
Aargh…premature posting.
I suppose the opposition VONC in the gov could cause a GE, but Treeza would fight that GE as leader as they couldnt shift her.
Things forgotten about.
The Deal will still not pass.
The DUP will not support the government for much longer with No deal, nor her deal, or in fact, ANY deal with a backstop.
The Holyrood Continuity Bill verdict tomorrow which Scotsgov win either way.
Constitutional crisis to deal with.
Shh…..queen treeza might win VONC so all hail st treeza …
Meg Merrilees naw worries Meg Bbc hiv caught up on the Aberdeen bypass opening , an its baad indeed very baad the only kind of baad its SNP baad ah 1 billion pounds over budget baader , an it gets baader behind schedule .
Hoping you dont hiv nightmares wie ma post Meg Hugs .
Breaks
No. Two separate processes. Today is just conservative internal party business, Not parliamentary.
Thanks Geeo.
Still can’t shake the feeling I’m watching a drama I don’t actually give a flying f___ about.
Brutally frustrated waiting for Scottish Independence to find its way onto the agenda.
Scot Finlayson @ 6.11
Ah…That might explain why I’m no seeing any difference in the price of Bailey’s.. it’s only 17%..
The worst that could happen ?
Theresa May loses
Conservative and unionist party vote for a new leader who is a remainer
Westminster vote to accept remain
Brexit is cancelled…for now..
Nicola Sturgeon announces that a Scottish independence referendum will not be held…for now
The Lords court decision goes against Scotland
Westminster reduces Scotlands budget further
SNP lose support
I lose hope of Scottish independence occurring in my lifetime
Stay brave Terence.
Congrats to Rev & Wings Over Scotland.
Have a great night!
Luigi @ 6.13 & Meg Merrilees @ 5.51
And now why,, we hold, is beyond doubt.
Westminster can indeed pull Brexit anytime it wanted to,while not our only mandate for Indy,the second part of the manifesto commitment is no as prominent,and the British Nationalists will like to pretend that if Brext is gone so is the reason for Indy Ref 2…
But I’d say that the Scottish people simply letting the current Scottish government know they have had enough of this stupid Unions games is the one with the shelf life no matter what they do with their Brext.
I wonder if they will ever understand that for half of Scotland (and rising) Indy is never off the table
Today has been a good day….if you really believe in independence for Scotland………..OK, OK it’s taken me until now to realise this.
I don’t like popcorn so would cashew nuts do instead????
Thank you for your forensic investigations, analysis and quality journalism, and for Chris’s cartoons.
Hoppy birdie Wings, 5000 Flights over Scotland, eagle eyed, never in a flap, soaring above mainstream media!
Thank you for assisting me in breaking bad habits like TV news, newspapers, QT, Newsnight, BBC Radio Scotland and many more disgusting brain washing channels.
Here’s to many more flights!
Terence Callachan@7.09pm
You are some cheerleader for Scottish independence. If you are for independence then get a grip.
@Dorothy Devine
It’s 50p per unit minimum price. Whisky 28 units per 70cl, so £14, or 40 units per litre so £20. Vodka similar, maybe a little cheaper (£13.30 for 70cl. 26.6 units).
link to independent.co.uk
@Liz g,
1lt or 1000ml of Baileys x ABV 17% divided by 1000 = 17units,
at minimum 50p a unit, you could legally sell it in Scotland at £8.50 for 1lt.
Baileys and Guinness are owned by English firm Diageo,
Diageo were behind the legal obstruction of the minimum price and are the voice (with William Grant & Sons Ltd £100,000 to Bitter Together) behind the Scottish Whisky Association,
Karen Betts was appointed as CEO of the Scottish Whisky Association in May 2017, after a 16-year career in the Foreign & Commonwealth Office,
Diageo-SWA-UK GOV = Brutish Establishment.
AND I WILL WALK 5000 MORE! Dadadadadadadada 🙂
5000 Not out!
Well done Rev Stu =)
Happy happy 5000th 🙂
O/T Nigel Huddleston, Tory MP, being interviewed on CNN just now, thinks that if May (assuming she survives the current attempted hard-Leaver coup) returns from “The EU” with some kind of non-binding assurance over the Irish backstop, sufficient Labour MPs will back her Brexit in the eventual WB vote.
Mere wishful thinking, or a sound understanding of where the so-called “opposition” really are…?
NOW only 10 minutes left to vote Hoose of C’s tory politicians.
New game time:
Ahm gonnae guess the difference in tonights votes will be… 23.
With 2 abstentions.
Thank you Stu for opening my eyes to the relentless union propaganda.
I used to never miss the news, read the herald and listen to radio Scotland.
They are no longer part of my life and I feel much the better for it.
If you haven’t made the move consider making it, you won’t regret it.
Basically speaking, the minimum pricing only affects cooking whisky, vodka, gin and rum. No affect on quality 🙂
Congratulations on your 5,000th post!
Despite lies told in papers, television and radio, despite a campaign to try and bring the site down by hackers backed by those who may not be mentioned and despite the BBC doing it’s level best to remove content from this site whilst allowing it to be shown literally EVERYWHERE else, you are STILL here.
Still crunching the numbers and showing that our ‘news’ sources are flat out lying to us, showing that unionist politicians are lying when referring to facts and figures, lying when quoting anyone on the Indy side and lying when making promises to elicit votes for a campaign that cheated to get a slim majority in favour of subjugation.
A concerted campaign of disinformation, lies, attempts to damage reputation, wrongly ascribe quotes, continuously smearing your good name personally and professionally whilst trying to wipe the site off the internet is something that smacks entirely of PRISM – which is exactly what that programme exists to do.
The level of effort put into crushing your voice, and ours, is considerable. And yet it has NOT been crushed, it persists and is able to raise funds (unlike certain former SLAB leaders who lack popular support) Their level of fear is palpable, and rightly so.
Unlike sites like ‘Guido’ which don’t have a ‘Home’ button, therefore requiring you to go back in AGAIN to read another story – and so boosting their log-in figures ten fold, THIS site has popular readership among the public AND politicians. It reaches the parts that other blogs cannot, to borrow an old phrase.
Thanks Stu! And good luck with the NEXT 5,000 posts too! Hopefully we’ll have an independent Scotland by the time you post that one!!
Does anyone seriously think their will be a ‘peoples vote’?
May keeps going on about respecting the wishes of the ‘British people’ and the good of the ‘country’. ie England, England, England.
We really need to stop with ‘this country’ bollocks – SNP MP’s and MSP’s are also occasionally guilty of this, we need to nip this in the bud at each and every opportunity.
Many people in Scotland (and indeed England, Wales & NI) still do not understand the constitutional make-up of the UK. The United Kingdom is not a fucking country.
Cactus @ 19:50,
OK, big man, I’ll play. May to win by a margin of 150 or more…
Liz G @ 7.22 pm and Meg and Luigi,
Yes!
All sorts could yet happen. Hold.
But no matter WHAT unfolds out of Westminster’s clusterbourach, the call for Independence will yet come. Hold.
The people of Scotland are being shown more and more clearly, day by day, exactly how Scotland is held in contempt by the British establishment and our resources and talents filched and abused while being denigrated in the same breath. Hold.
The stark difference in Scotland’s approach to folk who come here to make Scotland their home, or even to be with us a short while, Scotland’s approach to looking after the folk here in Scotland and Scotland’s approach to the rest of the World, Scotland’s approach to global problems and will to actually get on and do something about climate change for example – ALL serve to show folk here that Scotland should be a normal country and have controll of its own affairs. Hold.
In the word of one of our former MSPs, Christian Allard : HOLD =)
This vote on May tonight is of peripheral importance and many people are confused about it as well.
If May gets beaten(unlikely)another person steps up to be leader of the Tory party and government. He or she will be a be brexiteer.
The telling vote is when there is an attempt to get “the deal” through Parliament.
Hi Gary at 7:54 pm.
You typed,
“THIS site has popular readership among the public AND politicians.”
You better believe it! Whenever I’ve chatted to SNP politicians, they have always been aware about what’s on WOS. I believe reading WOS is in the SNP manual, “What To Read and Believe Online”.
8=)
Aweright Robert, what a night, ma second guesstimate in that region is.
147.
I’m predicting May will get 2640 votes.
That means Rock can have the night off!
BBC Reporting Scotland
Glen Campbell and Jackie Bird on full volume Scot Britnat cringe to their masters in Westminster.
The chaos in Westminster is described as “compelling”. A bit like X factor – a vote taking place – nothing to worry about.
A whole range of Tories are dragged out to say how wonderful the Maybot is.
David Duguid says “I’ve always supported the Prime Minister but not through blind loyalty but because she’s this prime minister” – great reason David.
Good for a laugh Glen Campbell actually says “The Scottish secretary not known for his leadership ambitions” just before he interviews Mundell. Of course does not ask him if he will ever resign for any reason ever ever in the future.
Incredibly high Tory MP count in tonight’s programmes. It just shows when they really really try hard how many Tories they can fit in to one programme. Blackford gets less than a second.
In the northern region known as Scotland Jackie tells us ” at Holyrood tonight a huge row over tax” ( no such thing happening at Westminster of course ).
In an independent Scotland none of these Britnats in BBC Reporting Scotland should be allowed anywhere near any media outlets. Pure propaganda merchants all of them with not a shred of professional or personal integrity.
Thanks to the Rev. for helping folks to retain some sort of sanity.
I picked up the other day somewhere online the phrase “Scotland – the common sense country” said in praise. We are respected around the world and the phenomenal shift that our FM is putting in is being recognised and reported everywhere – except of course the BBC and STV. We are putting in all the work, clarifying legal and constitutional options and filling in all the details before we move.
We are making it harder and harder for the UK to stand in front of the world and block our demands.
Am gittin prepared fur anither presidential statement from Tereza couple of glesses of Auld Pulteney an ah can of sweetheart stout, if ah wiz any mair despondent ah wid get pished lol.
Congrats on your milestone, Stu.
Altogether, now …
Rev Stu – an appreciation
[With acknowledgements]
“When he’s posting,
Yes, you know he’s gonna be
The man who’s posting hard for you
[…]
For he has wrote 5 000 posts
And he will post 5 000 more.
Tadalalalala
Tadalalalala
Tadalalalala
For he has wrote 5 000 posts
And he will post 5 000 more.
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Please,before it gets Anglified beyond redemption and before Stu hits me with hammers the Gaelic word is bùrach.
I don’t have the Gaelic but I also believe the accent on the u is important.
Eton bùrach takes on a whole different meaning from the usual mess.
Cats out the bag Robin Walker Con MP on CNN saying May will go back to the EU
David Cameron said 3 years ago: “Britain faces a simple and inescapable choice – stability and strong Government with me, or chaos with Ed Milliband”
Truly unbelievable to look back on those words now.
link to bbc.co.uk HYS
Cactus @ 8.07
Eh …. how come you get 2 guesses ?
Next thing ye will want a second Independence Referendum!!!!
Wings Over Scotland is the one news website you can trust as a reliable source of information.
Thank Stuart, for all the effort you’ve put in, it’s much appreciated.
@frogesque
Go here and press the button on the right to hear how it is pronounced.
link to learngaelic.scot
Breeks said this..
……
Still can’t shake the feeling I’m watching a drama I don’t actually give a flying f___ about”.
……..
I have that feeling as well.
Tomorrows Supreme Court ruling and legal/constitutional fall out, is for me the only real show in town.
When under a fifth of the population thinks MPs can be relied upon to tell the truth not only is democracy finished but it deserves to be.
link to t.co
@bjsalba: 8.50
Many thanks for that. I was fairly close but the audio helps enormously
Some clown oan sky’s news ( don’t know who, James sumbody) sayin..
We might have to wait till Spring for Nicola Sturgeon announces her plans for Scotland…
Eh…. She has been saying for years now AUTUMN 2018 OR SPRING 2019 and this fucking idiot tries to make out he is bringing us news….
It is surprising that he supports the “Union” given his family pedigree. The Cameron’s suffered greatly at the hands of “Butcher Cumberland” at and for many years after Culloden.
link to caltonjock.com
may wins 200 for 117 against.
T. May lives to wossiname another day.
200 in support 117 in opposition.
She’s still PM 200 for 117 against.
A m suffish an anest itized no ta e gie ah feck oan Tereza’s remain ing as PM
snap
Well done Rev, the name of this post has successfully predicted the fate of the PM tonight.
OOh is that a Triple Lock?
Liz G
The Battle of Prestonpans is the subject of Outlander….series2 episode 10. I remember the local lad insisting on being heard with his information about the way to go but I must watch it again to see if his name is mentioned. I love this series – read all the books a few years ago. For fantasy fiction it does Scotland proud and the author tries to be historically accurate where possible.
@ronnie anderson
😀 LOLZ
Ron, ahm two drams behind yooz.
Cactus @ 20:07,
Looks like we both got that one wrong by a whopping factor of 2. =laugh=
Still, you were closer (2nd go, and by a smidgen, but still), so I concede. You are the winner!
But all of us are losers in another sense, I suppose…
Scotland owes no bigger debt than to one man and his ten year old computer.
Congratulations and thank you, the Rev. Stuart Campbell.
Ghillie
Thanks for the mention – I’m not doubting – I was thinking out loud just how hard a line Nicola is having to tread because of all this Tory stramash. But just so ah know, do we hiv tae wait til we can see the whites o their eyes?
I think Nicola’s feelings just now are being well advertised and people’s respect for her – on a wider front than home- is growing.
We are so lucky with the quality of our Politicians.
And we have tomorrow’s Supreme Court ruling to anticipate.
Anybody know what time the ruling will be announced?
If I was May I’d call a GE saying vote for me and the Brexit deal or vote for Corbyn and vote for Brexit.
Macart ah hope its the good stuff , works faster lol ah ned tae buy anither bottle an some cans fur the celebratory swally the morrra cheers .
jfngw says:
10 December, 2018 at 11:38 pm (Return Of The Terror):
“Some think May is stumbling around not knowing what to do. Don’t agree, she knows exactly what she is doing. the same as she did when Home Secretary, she is determined to get her own way and is going for my deal or no deal. It’s her mode of operation and always has been.”
Rock says:
11 December, 2018 at 9:39 pm (Return Of The Terror):
“The Establishment and the Tories always know what they are doing. They always make very calculated moves.
They appear as fools and idiots but are most definitely not.
Never underestimate them.”
msdidi @ 9.05
Oh msdidi…. Watched Outlander, read all the books and a fair few actual history book about the Rising but I just could not get the name Prestonpans this morning… LOL
A brain fog
A senior moment
I don’t know…I could actually see the scenes from Outlander in my minds eye but could not mind that name… I kept thinking Sheriffs Muir but I knew that was from an earlier rising.????
Wan o thay days I’m afraid… LOL
That nice Theresa May stays on to deliver Scottish independence before my 80th birthday.
I thank the Tory MP,s for continuing to be, as that nice Andrew Daily Politics says “The most duplicitous electorate in the whole world”
Ghillie @ 8.06
Very well put Ghillie…
What i posted earlier…
“Of course, the cynic says, its all a tory ploy to strengthen her hand in the party.
Have a leadership contest, and win it, seemingly beating her brexit rebels.
Wait as long as possible to hold cancelled vote, so it becomes Her deal or No deal.
We already know it will be rejected, so she stays in charge, and the fannies get their hardest of brexit and the tories blame everyone who voted down her deal for the shambles to follow.
She then calls an election and with everyone blaming opposition for no deal…boom…tories win a majority.
Of course, thats just a cynics view”.
………
Now we have had the side show, roll on tomorrow’s main event.
@ronnie anderson
It’s a win win ron an there’s no that many dominoes left to knock over.
Nearly there. 😉
‘Built to last’-a whimsical notion from 2006- a delusional organisation that recycles its vacuous soundbites on a regular basis.Words and deeds.
‘Today’s result confirms that the Party has changed. It shows that Conservatives support the vital changes that we have made over the last nine months. Those changes are clear. For example, we will put economic stability and fiscal responsibility ahead of promises to cut taxes. Protecting the environment and tackling climate change will be given equal prominence to public services and the economy. We will improve public services for all, rather than promote opt outs for a few. The test for all our policies will be how they help the most disadvantaged in society. We will take action so that our Party reflects Britain as it is today, not Britain as it was. Ours is a message of change, optimism and hope. Our aims and values are as relevant now as they have ever been and this vote demonstrates that they are built to last.’
link to conservativehome.blogs.com
Scotland has been administering end of life care to a system that has been dying for quite some time. Now it’s time for Scotland to take care of the living -in Scotland.
Macart Yup the show goes on , the more the Tories/Labour piddle aboot the more exposed their positions become . I’ll raise a replenished gless or ( couple ) oan the SC decision the morra Win win tonight Win win the morra , ah better no git to euphoric or ah’ll breakoot an break dance lol.
Congrats on the 5000th Stu, its been a pleasure to read and contribute.
Cheers.
Hi msdidi at 9:05 pm.
You typed,
“The Battle of Prestonpans is the subject of Outlander….series2 episode 10.”
You can watch it here:-
link to putlocker.vip
Remember, don’t click on any links that pop up, like Flash Player updates or virus warnings. They are EVIL! And don’t accept any downloads that pop up.
Tetchy Stephen Gethins on tv protesting ‘we’ need a no confidence vote to save ‘the country’ from the incompetent Conservative government. Labour ‘colleagues’ must join the SNP et al in such a vote, even though, arithmetically, no chance of that given continuing DUP support.
The SNP = Save the (British) Nation party?
I don’t really understand why the Tories were allwoed to use taxpayers money for their internal squabble and hold the vote in the palace of Westminster. They should have to hire a hall like any other party would, and pey for it themselves.
“The SNP = Save the (British) Nation party?”
The concern troll – we see you. You’re convincing few here.
“The SNP = Save the (British) Nation party?”
The concern troll – we see you. You’re wasting your time here.
So May cancelled the “meaningful vote” and won the meaningless vote instead. How mean is that!
May saying she will stand down as PM at next GE.
A week’s a long time in politics. She’s lied to the country, to Parliament and now to her own party. She’ll find a way to hang on. It’s what she does time and time again. What’s her gameplan to hang on at next GE? Well with the Henry VIII powers at her disposal she simply doesn’t call the next GE, citing that the country needs a period of stability after Brexit, yadda, yadda…
No GE & May hang’s on. You heard it here first.
Just want to add my sincere thanks to Rev. Stu for all the hard work, diligence, dedication and accurate reporting over many years. In also having the intestinal fortitude to fend off those creepy yoons who try to make your job harder than it need be.
Just one more sleep and BOOM, a new legal minefield opens up regardless of the outcome.
I am betting Scottish sovereignty will be upheld and the Continuity Bill will be upheld, whilst the Westminster Withdrawal Bill will be unconstitutional as it applies to Scotland.
Ronnie Anderson @ 9.40
Don’t you dare be doing any break dancing Ronnie…..
Not until there’s at “least a dozen Wingers there tae see it…. then I’ll even haud yer jacket
In my humble opinion the Maybot winning the vote makes a no deal Brexit more likely. An independence referendum will follow on and a border vote in N Ireland .
No shit Rockshit, how about that, forecasts and you didn’t even need to beg.
So to summarise Rockshit you better start looking for a new job soon and be quick about it for the smarter Britnats on Wings will be doing the same. No need for Britnat trolls in a independent Scotland. I forecast you will end up in London where a big club of Britnat trolls will get together and reminisce about the good ol days in Scotland when Rockshit could post shit.
I’m now getting carried away with this forecasting nonsense.
@kangaroo.
That is the only legitimate verdict available as far as i can see.
9.30am i think i read somewhere ?
Very little UK media coverage about tomorrow’s ruling.
Bloomberg has “Brexit Ruling At The Supreme Court Could Test Unity Of The UK”
Hoping that’s the end of the we’ll back you Jeremy tweets.
Any VONC in the government would be hilarious now, after tonights vote.
Those 117 Tories would be torn. Tempted to vote No confidence in a Treeza run gov, but if they do, and force a GE, then would Treeza not have to be leading said GE for the Tories as they cant touch her for 12 months now.
She is also a lame duck PM as she said she will not be leading the next election.
Now, here is where it gets fun.
If her not leading the next election, was a red line for VONC support amongst that 200 on her side, then an opposition VONC backed by those 117 tory rebels, resulting in collapsing the government, then treeza, despite being safe from party challenge, must resign before said GE.
All more reason to get on with a VONC.
Before recess if the vote is voted down (if we can get it to WM before recess) or as soon as possible if she tries to fudge it until mid to late January.
The ‘rules’ of the Brexit ‘game’ seem simple enough.
1. Northern Ireland must be left close to the EU because of Belfast Treaty obligations.
2. If the Tories want to maintain the integrity of the UK they must keep the whole UK close to the EU
3. The EU don’t trust the Tories so insist Northern Ireland’s closeness is guaranteed by a legally binding clause in the Withdrawal Agreement which they effectively control.
Clearly, the Tories don’t want to play by the rules – that is simply not in their nature! Rules aren’t for them, they are for lesser mortals.
Also, they have vested too much in Brexit to cancel.
That leaves just one way to escape the trap of their own making and achieve the hard Brexit they really want – crash out without a deal and take all the devastating consequences.
liz g Its the faw doon juice talkin , anyhows ah hivnae goat ah square of vinyl lol
albul hacker
Stephen Gethins is very good representing Scotland’s interests. Obviously hacker recognises this hence the attack,
Tories = Brexit, Labour = Brexit
Independent Scotland prevents this.
geek
Did she not say that she would not lead them into the ‘2022’ General Election.
If she said she wouldn’t lead them into the next GE then that is different.
As Margaret Beckett said – I wouldn’t trust her.
Pundits saying NO Deal is receding and possibility of a second EU ref looming… not holding my breath.
What will tomorrow bring?
link to instituteforgovernment.org.uk
An explanation of tomorrow’s implications and also a possible wimpish way out for the Supreme Court.
Ronnie Anderson @ 10.51
VINYL…. whoo hoo…. how posh ir you
We’ve always been slumming it wi Lino!!!
liz g av see the wachcloth days as well
Cearc at 4.25pm “I reckon Stu’s the ideal man to head-up Scotland’s press regulating body.”
No way. We need him to head whatever we replace the BBC with, after every last bastard at Pacific Quay bar the cleaners has been handed their P45.
Hey Robert, aye we were both way out on the vote (although the magic number did appear in the stats) which makes it all the worse for the tory party politicians. Ah was ready for May to do a ‘Gillian Jungle McKeith’ at some point in the proceedings.
Can anybuddy share what 200 to 117 / 83 is in percentage terms?
Hey Liz, ma first prediction was only an advisory suggestion (and was to mock and undermine the tory party politicians) but ma 2nd suggestion was the real thing.
Hey not till Jeudi at hauf pase neufam.
Well done Rev.
Daily reads of your blog and those commenting help to bring some sense to the English Government,s madness!
Time to Dissolve The Union.
Albucac ,unlike you if I were Stephen Gethins I would not be tetchy,you troll,I would be incandescent with rage. Glad we have such responsible SNP MP’s using self control above and beyond the call of duty.
What now? I trust our First Minister to call it when she is good and sure. Now Rock,no premature ejaculation.
@meg.
That link is outdated as it is written before WM shamelessly enacted the rapist charter principle of No means Yes re:consent.
Other than that, good article.
With regards to demain at hauf past neufam, what’s the chances that they won’t air it live on the wireless radio and only make a passing mention laters.
WIN Yes.
When your rich friends complain about higher income tax in Scotland, as well as better services, you should tell them that Tories are talking nonsense over higher taxes when compared to England.
If you take higher Council Tax bills in England, for poorer services, the overall difference is marginal.
If we take Morpeth in Northumberland as an example
Band E pays £761.87 more each year compared to living in Scottish Borders Council area.
Band F pays £817.32 more in England
Band G pays £847.24 more
Band H pays £901.68 more
there is also around £50 per annum higher water rates in England compared to Scotland.
@craig murray
Post Indy, BBC Scotchland staff will become BBC foreign correspondants, surely ?
To that end, and with ZERO license fees from Scotland, we will not have to cull Pathetic Quay, it shall eat itself.
@sinky.
And nearly £100,000 more on average house prices.
geeo @ 22:48:
I don’t believe for an instant that any of those rebels can be counted on a VONC instituted by an opposition party. No matter how much more humiliating it gets (Malta being begged next, anyone?), now that the ultras have been defeated, it will be “circle the wagons time” for any such challenge. Don’t forget, the DUP will be onside for that as well.
It seems to me that the likelihood of ousting the Tory government, of there being a UKGE, or of there being an EURef2 have all significantly diminished. Tomorrow’s UKSC judgement will be interesting but from past performance I can’t see it rising to the occasion. But another door opened or closed is another domino falling, whatever.
Tonight I was re-watching a recent-ish docudrama about the early days of RADAR, and it was the exact same “chicken and egg” dilemma: should one go all-out on an unproven hunch when the proof is only possible by going all-out? What is required is faith based on a sound understanding of the fundamentals. And here the fundamentals are clear, and the possible diversions steadily diminishing.
It’s getting very near time now to make our move.
5000 posts up an’ running, some sad, some funny, some sharp as a rapier.
Every one of them needed as an antidote to the venom from the English Propaganda Services and their overlords of the Establishment.
Stu Campbell & Team 🙂 🙂
geeo
I don’t think that’s quite right. I certainly want all that broadcasting equipment Scots paid for. It’s not gonig to continue to belong to London.
Is there a Wingers Hogmanay pish up arranged?
I’m fair enjoying the final series of the sitcom ‘The Union’….
Cactus @ 11.34
In percentage terms 200 and 117 are 63% 37%
Which means that over a third of her own party
do not think she is capable of leading that party.
Yet she is in charge of Government and brexit
negotiations, and they are ok with that?
Glad May is still there, keeps the pot boiling nicely.