This poll from Opinium came out a few days ago, but didn’t get as much attention as people might normally have expected, possibly because it was presented in a very difficult-to-follow graphical form. So we’ve sorted it out, and also added in the missing Lib Dem voters.
The takeaway is that a clear majority of voters both in Scotland and the UK now believe that the UK government should accept the Scottish Government’s request for a second independence referendum.
The interview was an interesting one in itself that we might talk more about later this weekend, but let’s leave that aside for now and talk about the headline take, because as usual the Scottish media is presenting it in a remarkably dishonest manner.
In case you missed it, there was an interesting phone-in on the subject of Scottish independence on James O’Brien’s LBC radio show from 10am this morning. I chipped my tuppence-worth in at the start (I’m the second caller, from about 6m 25s), but it’s fascinating listening to O’Brien’s tone evolve as the hour-long segment goes on.
(James O’Brien, LBC, 7 August 2019) .
We don’t doubt for a moment the sincerity and good intent with which he states his position. But when he talks in the intro about the special feelings he has when he’s in Scotland, which he also gets in Greece, the whole argument collapses.
Because O’Brien doesn’t appear to need to feel that he “owns” Greece, or that he’s a Greek citizen, to have that warmth towards it. He doesn’t need the people of England to elect Greece’s governments for it – he’s happy to have those feelings towards a completely independent country. So why not about an independent Scotland?
(Sadly I was cut off before I got a chance to respond to his point about Germany and its federal regions, which would have been to point out that no one German region is six times bigger than all the others put together and can – and does – impose its will on them whenever it wants.)
And much to his credit he appears to realise that as the show goes on. Whether he still thinks deep down that the Scottish independence movement is in significant part driven by anti-Englishness, only he can say. But his callers today at least appear to have made him think about it, and it’s a process worth listening to.
It’s our most fervent wish that one day the left will grasp the fact that this isn’t how you win a war.
It’s also our most abiding fear that this – with its stern admonitions against clapping, or banner-waving, or speaking to anyone who might disagree with you, or taking “fun shortcuts” or wearing “aggressive scents”, in case any of those things cause trauma to the sensitive – might as well be the SNP conference of 2022.
Alert readers will notice, however, that for some inexplicable reason the graph ends more than a year ago, in July 2018, with Davidson’s rating still at a very healthy 54% – some three and a half times what it is now. So we’ve fixed it for them.
2 August 2018: Ruth Davidson is the second most popular Tory with party members surveyed by Conservative Home, and regularly spoken of by the press as a potential future Prime Minister.
We’re being somewhat generous with the numbering here, to be honest, but you’ve got to start the official count somewhere, right?
Alert readers will recall that current Scottish Labour policy is to enshrine in law the right to a free bus pass for all Scots over the age of 60:
This time last year, for example, their transport spokesman Colin Smyth specifically and indignantly condemned any possible suggestion by the dastardly SNP of perhaps increasing the qualifying age from 60 to state pension age (currently 65 and due to rise to 68 and beyond), saying:
“Sadly, the scheme is now under threat with SNP ministers refusing the rule out increasing the age citizens can qualify for a pass in a bid to try and save money. Ordinary people in their 60s should not be paying the price of Tory austerity because the SNP refuse to use the powers of the parliament to fund our services properly.”
So we can safely assume that in Wales, where Labour have been in power for all 20 years of the devolved Assembly, all those things will already be happening, because otherwise it’d just be embarrassing.
At the very least, we can be certain that there’s no chance of the qualifying age going up from 60 to state pension age, because we already know that Labour regard that as a scandalous and unthinkable moral outrage.
Still, at least the Record hasn’t been so completely lacking in self-awareness as to point a finger at others in Scotland and say something like “far too many people who should know better are complicit in the tragedy”.
Marie on Anything But That: “Alf Baird @ 4.06pm – thanks for the link. I was in Helensburgh last month and looking out at Gare…” Sep 3, 17:21
Northcode on Anything But That: “It was always England’s empire. You never hear of Britain’s “Green and Pleasant Land” or “There’ll Always Be a Britain”…” Sep 3, 17:13
James Barr Gardner on Anything But That: “The fact that most smaller nations in Europe operate on consensus politics seems to have escaped Swinney’s vision, his view…” Sep 3, 17:07
Stevie on Anything But That: “The SNP disgusts me – nothing new then” Sep 3, 16:44
Hatey McHateface on Anything But That: “Now, now WWW. Use its proper name. 8 Ace.” Sep 3, 16:34
Hatey McHateface on Anything But That: “So it’s the English empire now, Alf? What you doing here? Channeling your inner Trump? He likes to rename stuff…” Sep 3, 16:31
Alf Baird on Anything But That: ““I don’t think many Scot’s see themselves as downtrodden natives or Scotland as a dystopian occupied territory.” Scots, and yersel…” Sep 3, 16:06
Aidan on Anything But That: “So every region of every country everywhere in the world is a colony is it James? What about those poor…” Sep 3, 14:00
100%YES on Anything But That: “John Swinney blames Westminster for Glasgow homelessness crisis that threatens to bankrupt city, its always Westminster Westminster is the SNP…” Sep 3, 13:58
James on Anything But That: “Long as they’ve got Ace on ice, SP, I’ll be happy.” Sep 3, 13:28
James on Anything But That: “Aww, Adrian, back again? Here’s today’s crossword clue, just for you; A country that has no controls over its own…” Sep 3, 13:27
Hatey McHateface on Anything But That: “EFTA, eh? Your certainty suggests you see yourself as a kingpin of the negotiating team, flown out (business class, natch)…” Sep 3, 13:20
Northcode on Anything But That: ““The EU literally *is* a beacon of colonialism and represents everything you claim to be against.” What nonsense is this…” Sep 3, 13:16
Aidan on Anything But That: “This whole “Scotland is a colony” theory is only accepted by a tiny minority of largely irrelevant fringe voices. I…” Sep 3, 13:09
Hatey McHateface on Anything But That: “Not answering is Alf’s MO. But I can easily list one benefit of sticking with the status quo. We’ll be…” Sep 3, 13:07
James on Anything But That: “Please stay calm. Wasn’t it funny how Fish Face was never off the telly during the Brexit campaign, though? Was…” Sep 3, 12:56
James on Anything But That: “Alf; “…they didn’t answer…”” Sep 3, 12:52
Hatey McHateface on Anything But That: “Unlike the campervan.” Sep 3, 12:47
Bilbo on Anything But That: “@ Hatey Ye have some imagination on ye, Hatey ma boy.” Sep 3, 11:57
Bilbo on Anything But That: “I see that the trolls are out in force. As the saying goes, Dogs bark but the caravan moves on.” Sep 3, 11:24
Bilbo on Anything But That: “@ Phil 2 September, 2026 at 9:07 pm While the Spectator is a Tory rag as Young Lochinvar says, it…” Sep 3, 11:22
Spartan 117 on Anything But That: “Wibble. Hysterical fringe, Exhibit A. You speak of “colonialism” yet complain of “Scotland being dragged out of the EU against…” Sep 3, 11:11
Captain Caveman on Anything But That: “LOL @ “fearsome jobbies” 😀 Yup, unfortunately raw seafood is the most perishable substance known to man, if shellfish are…” Sep 3, 10:51
Minceheid on Anything But That: “Hatey McHateface says: 3 September, 2026 at 9:52 am MH 8:47 Cleared your plate, eh? Thicko twat numpty. Ye’re nae…” Sep 3, 10:29
Alf Baird on Anything But That: ““There needs to be a cogent, logical and factual argument as to the benefits and drawbacks of independence, presented to…” Sep 3, 10:27
Spartan 117 on Anything But That: “Well, yes. This is the problem. There needs to be a cogent, logical and factual argument as to the benefits…” Sep 3, 10:02
Hatey McHateface on Anything But That: “Agreed 100% Considering how much worse things are in the UK and Scotland than they were the last time, this…” Sep 3, 09:57
Spartan 117 on Anything But That: “Indeed, Call Me Dave campaigned for Remain (which was the official Government policy of the time) and promptly scarpered when…” Sep 3, 09:56
Hatey McHateface on Anything But That: “MH 8:47 Cleared your plate, eh? Thicko twat numpty. Ye’re nae meant tae eat the shell 🙂” Sep 3, 09:52
Hatey McHateface on Anything But That: “Mussels thrive in polluted, shitty water, rapidly converting the effluent into succulent, delicious seafood. The trick, if you wish to…” Sep 3, 09:48