Supporters of the opposition’s plan to block a no-deal Brexit have been proclaiming vindication this weekend over a couple of polls which show significantly lower support for the Tories, and a lead for Labour, in the event that a general election is called after 31 October with Brexit not having happened.
In that scenario, Tory voters tell pollsters that they’re more likely to defect to the Brexit Party, and the resulting split in the Brexit vote appears to point towards a Labour-led government if you plug the figures into a site like Electoral Calculus.
The reality is much more complicated than that. But what we’re specifically interested in is how it would affect the chances of securing a second indyref, so let’s take a look.
Sitrep: we’ve given up any hope of turning on the television and seeing a politician – any politician – telling the truth.
Boris Johnson is lying about negotiating a new deal with the EU. Jeremy Corbyn is lying about pretty much everything (in so far as he even knows what he wants the truth to be, let alone what it actually is). Jo Swinson is lying about wanting to meaningfully work with other parties to stop Brexit. Nicola Sturgeon is lying about wanting to stop a no-deal Brexit – she just wants to stop Brexit full stop.
(Unfortunately, this also means she’s lying about having any real intention of holding a second independence referendum before 2021. If she did, she wouldn’t have all her MPs and MSPs frantically running around parliaments and courtrooms trying to destroy her own democratic mandate for it, which would leave her needing to secure a fresh one 20 months from now. And assuming she’d have any more idea how to put it into practice than she has with the ones she’s already got.)
The government is lying about the fact that it doesn’t have confidence in itself, and the opposition is lying about the fact that it does. Everyone now says they want an election, but somehow it isn’t happening because nobody wants it yet, and nobody can agree when they DO want it, and they’re all lying about why.
And absolutely everyone is lying about the fact that whatever they’re trying to do right now has any chance of solving the present shambles. Johnson is just stalling to run the clock down until no-deal, although he swears blind that he isn’t, and the opposition just wants to drag the whole agony out for several more months with not the slightest clue what they’d actually do then.
Grimly, the closest thing that British voters currently have to an honest man is Nigel Farage, who is at least clear about what he wants and what he’s prepared to do to get it. Which is ironic, as he’s only anywhere near getting it because he’s spent his entire political career lying through his teeth about it.
We don’t mind telling you, folks, it’s been pretty hard to get up in the mornings.
So, British politics, eh? We’re basically on strike until things make at least an iota of sense, because there’s no point in attempting political analysis right now when events can overtake you before you’ve finished typing a sentence.
But let’s just have a quick recap on what we know.
So it seems like our semi-idle musings about the possibility of starting a new list party for the Scottish Parliament generated some interest last month.
(That’s more than the whole of 2018, more than the whole of 2017, and over five times the previous biggest single month since we moved to our current stats provider in December 2014.)
But yeah, nobody cares and it’d be certain to fail, apparently.
We just watched a nine-minute segment on Sky News, purportedly on the subject of “Is the Union between Scotland and England under threat?”, which for maximum balance and impartiality included views from both Labour and the Tories – in the forms of Paul Sweeney MP and John Lamont MP – but nobody else.
Both men spouted some quite extraordinary claims, all of which went unchallenged by presenter Adam Boulton. Let’s just take a quick look at a couple of the best ones.
Boris Johnson’s move to prorogue Parliament for most of September and a chunk of October actually only represents a couple of weeks of extra holiday time for MPs – Westminster would be shut for most of the time in question anyway for party conference season.
The Commons would open for business again on 14 October, in time to debate the outcome of a crucial European Council summit on 17-18 October. If that meeting doesn’t provide any new deal – and it’s vanishingly unlikely that it will – then there’ll be no time for anything other than a no-deal Brexit.
We see Gordon Brown is celebrating his 500th article promising “federalism” in the Scottish media today. Which is nice. We always enjoy hearing about the stuff Labour pretends it’s going to do when it’s in power.
But like everyone who’s been waiting 100 years and counting for it to abolish the House Of Lords (a pledge which also gets another runout in Brown’s latest intervention, bless him), we won’t be holding our breath.
If you’re a writer for a living and you want to check if something you’ve written might be embarrassingly stupid, there’s an easy and quick technique you can use.
By way of example, here’s Kenny Farquharson in the Times today, on the subject of the supposed similarities in the relationships between the Tories and the Brexit Party, and the SNP and the potential new Wings party:
So here’s the trick: switch the protagonists around.
We really can’t be bothered with having the GERS “debate” again, in which all the same people make all the same exactly opposite spins on the exact same data. Minor annual fluctuations aside, the core reality is the same as the one we repeat every 12 months, and serious economists on both sides of the political divide still treat the figures with the disdain they properly merit.
One such person is Richard Murphy, and in an excellent piece today he posted a version of this graph which did catch our jaded eye. It purports to show the share of UK debt supposedly accounted for by Scotland – which has, let’s remember, just 8% of the UK’s population – in each of the last 16 years, and which immediately prior to the SNP’s 2011 majority stood at almost exactly that of our population share.
How very remarkable, some readers may feel, that the extent of Scotland’s supposed responsibility for the UK’s debt should have rocketed so very dramatically at the exact point when independence became a live political question.
It does rather make you wonder why the UK government, scraping as it is for every penny of possible savings, seems more and more desperate to hang onto Scotland as the terrible economic burden we become on the rest of the country grows ever heavier.
Truly, our partners in this great equal and bountiful union must be the most generous and forgiving people on Earth. We don’t deserve them.
James Cheyne on Yelling at the tide: “North code. Did you know that one of the first revision of Scots laws was because the applied implications (as…” Jan 24, 12:13
TURABDIN on Yelling at the tide: “re post, should read P CELTIC not Q CELTIC” Jan 24, 12:04
Northcode on Yelling at the tide: “Thanks, Sam… I don’t have this one and it looks interesting. I’ll have a read and let you know what…” Jan 24, 12:01
James Cheyne on Yelling at the tide: “The wokists in Scotland are the pretendy Scottish government. They are the ones that believe in this ideology cult, they…” Jan 24, 12:01
sam on Yelling at the tide: “A book for you, Northcode? Scots in Decline? The Modern Age A History of the Scots Language Author: Robert McColl…” Jan 24, 11:50
Northcode on Yelling at the tide: ““Decisions made in Scotland, by Scots.” I’m afraid not… England has been the bane of the Scots sin lang afore…” Jan 24, 11:45
PC Foster on Yelling at the tide: “@Bilbo says: 23 January, 2026 at 9:21 pm I wonder how many woman think Trans woman are woman as well?…” Jan 24, 11:34
Marie on Yelling at the tide: “The USA is NO friend of us – certainly no friend of the Scottish working class men and women sent…” Jan 24, 11:13
James Cheyne on Yelling at the tide: “The illegal governance of Scotland as a Scottish parliament or any parties sitting therein comes from the parliament England, due…” Jan 24, 10:38
TURABDIN on Yelling at the tide: “@ CYNICUS much thanks for the Ubykh link. fascinating the varieties of human expression, our humanity is depleted when these…” Jan 24, 10:26
James Cheyne on Yelling at the tide: “It is strange how non Scots think of the Snp compared to the majority of grass roots Scots, In this…” Jan 24, 10:18
TURABDIN on Yelling at the tide: “a form of pre aspiration occurs in modern Welsh e,g, LL & RH & TH & CHW re the latter…” Jan 24, 10:09
Northcode on Yelling at the tide: “Guid mornyng tae aw ye wha daunder aboot this place. A howp ye aw hae a grand Seturday day the…” Jan 24, 09:27
sam on Yelling at the tide: “Katie Beardie had a coo, Black and white about the mou; Wasna that a dentie coo? Dance, Katie Beardie” Jan 24, 09:24
Hatey McHateface on Yelling at the tide: “@factchecker I appreciate and recognise the good work you do here. Nevertheless, as I am sure you realise yourself, Wings…” Jan 24, 08:57
factchecker on Yelling at the tide: “This relates to the Statutes of Iona; my post referred to the Scottish Privy Council Establishment of Schools Act of…” Jan 24, 08:31
factchecker on Yelling at the tide: “Well researched and accurate as usual, Fearghas. This Privy Council decision was reinforced by several Acts of the Scottish Parliament…” Jan 24, 08:25
Hatey McHateface on Yelling at the tide: “The SNP have been leading the polls for what seems like forever and are comfortably placed to be the biggest…” Jan 24, 08:24
Cynicus on Yelling at the tide: “TURABDIN says: 23 January, 2026 at 5:09 pm “Language is more than the sum of its functional utilitarian communication capacities,…” Jan 24, 01:19
James Barr Gardner on Yelling at the tide: “John Swinney’s party will go into the Holyrood Election with a new Chief Executive and new head of communications as…” Jan 24, 00:47
Bilbo on Yelling at the tide: “@ Main Got some shares in your portfolio of certain American Pharmaceutical companies?” Jan 24, 00:11
Fearghas MacFhionnlaigh on Yelling at the tide: “Regarding Norse pronunciation effects on Gaelic, the late Professor Derick Thomson wrote: « In phonology Scottish Gaelic differs from Irish…” Jan 23, 23:08
Hatey McHateface on Yelling at the tide: ““Or am I missing something?” That’s my conclusion. Only one reply – this one. Please don’t shoot the messenger.” Jan 23, 22:48
Hatey McHateface on Yelling at the tide: “Sorry, Sven, too late in the day for yet another language. Besides, Hobbit Boy beat you to it.” Jan 23, 22:43
Hatey McHateface on Yelling at the tide: ““how many woman think Trans woman are woman” I wonder how many women (and men) think the plural of woman…” Jan 23, 22:41
PC Foster on Yelling at the tide: “Lorna – I could not agree with you more- I will not vote nationalist until the woke/trans are well defeated…” Jan 23, 22:12
Bilbo on Yelling at the tide: “Trumps only interest and only audience is the people of the United States of America.” Jan 23, 22:01
Run the Border on Yelling at the tide: “You would get a more coherent set of responses from a formal complaint about your energy supply. This is a…” Jan 23, 21:53
Run the Border on Yelling at the tide: “Happy to write.Get the Rev to organise it.” Jan 23, 21:41
Marie on Yelling at the tide: “Oh that fool will still be calling Donnie the worlds greatest living half Scotsman. Pitiful really.” Jan 23, 21:40