The people (of England) have spoken, and their elected representatives are freaking out all over the shop.
Several senior Labour and Liberal Democrat MPs have openly called for the result of a democratic referendum to be overturned by Parliament against the wishes of voters. The Prime Minister has quit, the Chancellor is expected to follow on Monday, and half of the Labour shadow cabinet is apparently doing it as we speak, after Jeremy Corbyn fired Hilary Benn for planning a coup.
(Apparently including Ian Murray, the shadow Scottish Secretary who’s also the only Scottish Labour MP at Westminster, putting the party in the farcical position of having to find itself a spokesman on Scottish affairs who either sits in an English or Welsh seat or is an unelected lord.)
Labour MPs are also demanding Corbyn’s head, in essence for the crime of his being hugely popular with the party’s membership for reflecting the old-fashioned left-wing ideology and views that they actually believe in, rather than the “moderate” neo-Tory position of Blairite parliamentarians. Corbyn shows no sign of going.
It’s been suggested that the Scottish Parliament could in fact block any attempt by the UK to leave (though it seems unlikely). Britain faces a future without Milky Way Magic Stars. UK politics, to put it mildly, is in chaos. So what the hell’s going on?
Scotland (overwhelmingly) and Northern Ireland (less so) have voted to stay in Europe while England (decisively) and Wales (narrowly) have voted to leave. Northern Ireland has its own choices to make, but Scotland must now hold a second referendum.
The game just changed, readers. We’ve been up all night. We’ll have some analysis for you in a few hours. For now, spend a few moments pondering who the “narrow nationalists” and “separatists” in the UK are.
We know it’s early doors, but we’re going to state with some confidence now that this is the Tweet Of The Night:
Yes, that really is Tim Stanley, leader writer of the Telegraph, complaining about being up against the British establishment in a referendum. (In which Leave was supported by, among others, the Sun, the Daily Mail, the Telegraph, and the Daily Express – the #1, #2, #4 and #6 best-selling newspapers in the country – along with around half of the MPs of the governing party.)
For extra fun, we might collect some of his indyref tweets later. But to the very best of our recollection, he didn’t consider the Yes campaign’s 45% – which really WAS achieved against the entire British establishment, without a single daily newspaper’s support – as a “moral victory”.
(Part of a fairly major volte-face by Harris on who should control what in Scotland, but let’s not get into that right now.)
On the face of it, this is a perfectly feasible possibility, since devolution was set up on a “reserved list” basis – any issues not specifically reserved to Westminster are devolved to the Scottish Parliament. In theory this would indeed mean that powers over farming and fishing would revert to Holyrood automatically upon exit from the EU.
(And even that view is conditional on whether you consider Scottish independence the most important political goal of your life. If it’s more important to you to be out of the EU than out of the UK then clearly you’ll be voting Leave and there’s nothing we could say that would change your mind.)
But what if you happen to be a supporter of Scottish independence who DOESN’T live in Scotland? What then?
Captain Caveman on And Nothing Happened Forever: ““Guys, guys. Get a private room and circle jerk off all you like about those good old times.” Ugh. What…” May 10, 09:51
Sven on And Nothing Happened Forever: “Big Jock @ 08.51. You’re being a bit unfair to Mr Kelly, B/Jock, bringing logic and common sense into the…” May 10, 09:43
Northcode on And Nothing Happened Forever: “Mocking an Indigenous language is racist; it is racist because it attacks a protected characteristic indirectly: I’ve written down some…” May 10, 09:38
TURABDIN on And Nothing Happened Forever: “EVENTUALLY, it may dawn that the comedy of bits of paper in metal boxes has zilch to do with regaining…” May 10, 09:30
agentx on And Nothing Happened Forever: “Mannivannan identifies as ‘non-binary’ – so in Holyrood it can go in both the Ladies and/or Gents depending how it…” May 10, 09:29
Bilbo on And Nothing Happened Forever: “@ Main I have explained that I was using that as a metaphor concerning the futility of longing for a…” May 10, 09:23
Big Jock on And Nothing Happened Forever: “For comedy I still nip into James Kelly’s daft logic poll analysis. Latest is that he is saying not voting…” May 10, 08:51
Hatey McHateface on And Nothing Happened Forever: “@Geri Bilbo was posting about jerking off. Try to (ahem) stick to the subject if you have anything to add.” May 10, 08:36
Hatey McHateface on And Nothing Happened Forever: ““Loonies are being elected” Loonies are electing them. Myself, I’m for bringing back something like the property qualification for voting.…” May 10, 08:31
Hatey McHateface on And Nothing Happened Forever: “Anybody ken hoo lang this wake will gang oan fer? Ah may hae tae nip oot fer anither boatle. Seeing…” May 10, 08:23
Hatey McHateface on And Nothing Happened Forever: ““sodomite lifestyle” YL? My, my, every accusation, etc. etc. Just as well we all ken you’re what we Scots used…” May 10, 08:12
Big Jock on And Nothing Happened Forever: “I reckon we need to bring back first past the post in Scotland. This experiment with D’Hont is rewarding failure.…” May 10, 08:10
Hatey McHateface on And Nothing Happened Forever: “Criticise the ham ass scum and up pops Geri to defend them. Beats me why all the other ham ass…” May 10, 07:55
SophiaPangloss on And Nothing Happened Forever: “The other nationalist parties? I’m not sure you mean Reform, but they’re the only other nationalist party in Holyrood, I’m…” May 10, 07:15
twathater on And Nothing Happened Forever: “TBQH I am scunnered with the whole independence situation , Scots are about to become the Aboriginal or First Nation…” May 10, 04:01
Geri on And Nothing Happened Forever: “Exactly Bilbo. They’re longing for a time that was pre Thatcher. They pine after her with no self awareness that…” May 10, 02:11
robertkknight on And Nothing Happened Forever: “Look at the numbers Izzie… 2021… SNP Constituency Vote: 1,291,204 SNP Regional Vote: 1,094,374 2026… SNP Constituency Vote: 877,077 SNP…” May 10, 00:40
Young Lochinvar on And Nothing Happened Forever: “Absolutely spot on Rob. They’ve lost their way and become what the Unionists caricatured them as..” May 10, 00:33
Rob on And Nothing Happened Forever: “At this point when us old tins are talking about the SNP it might be worth reminding folk what the…” May 10, 00:22
Young Lochinvar on And Nothing Happened Forever: “HMcH @ 9.52 So you’re back again eh? Conservative friends of Is Rye Ale in a blue funk over their…” May 10, 00:16
Bilbo on And Nothing Happened Forever: “@ Main I appreciate you are not very bright. It is beyond your comprehension that you can’t understand the intellectual…” May 9, 23:22
Hatey McHateface on And Nothing Happened Forever: “How dare you, Sven. Remind the usual suspects about Bethlehem and they might remember where Bethlehem was 2026 years ago,…” May 9, 23:17
Geri on And Nothing Happened Forever: ““is to fervently wish for every last one of the ham ass scum to be buried deep in the tunnels…” May 9, 23:14
Hatey McHateface on And Nothing Happened Forever: “Take it easy, Geri. Remember what lies ahead of you for every day of the next 5 years. You’re gonna…” May 9, 23:08
Hatey McHateface on And Nothing Happened Forever: “Is that your best, Bilbo? You read a post you don’t like and you immediately start thinking about strangers jerking…” May 9, 22:52
Ross on And Nothing Happened Forever: “Wings was talking about snp and greens whether you like it or no” May 9, 22:50
Bilbo on And Nothing Happened Forever: “There is no pro independence majority today. There are two parties in Holyrood who says that they are for independence.…” May 9, 22:34
Geri on And Nothing Happened Forever: ““Didn’t take you long to start on your next 5-year plan for carpet bagging your agenda on the back of…” May 9, 22:30
Hatey McHateface on And Nothing Happened Forever: “Fun fact. The “J” that is Homer Simpson’s middle initial actually stands for “Jay”! “surviving inhabitants of g@za (for whom…” May 9, 21:52