Yesterday’s poll results attracted quite a surprising amount of anger from people who apparently don’t consider it at all important to the cause of independence to find out what people intending to vote SNP at the next Holyrood election think.
They’re probably not going to like these ones much either.
A third of SNP voters are unconvinced by the First Minister’s constant assurances that a second indyref will be delivered in the next 18 months. But the related question posed by several readers yesterday was “If you don’t think the SNP has a coherent strategy for securing a new vote, what would YOU do, Mister Smartypants?”
Which is annoying, because it’s a question we’ve answered in various contexts half a dozen times in the past year and a bit. So we thought we’d see if voters had been paying any more attention.
Remember this guy? Go on, give it a minute, it’ll come to you.
He popped up today to chuck in his tuppence-worth about inflammatory language in politics, and how – like everything else bad – it all started with vile cybernats in 2014 (because as you’ll of course remember, it was Yes supporters who never shut up about “surrendering”) and has now sullied even the dignified halls of Westminster.
You now have less than 24 hours left to secure your copy of our intermittent cartoonist Mr Cairns’ latest beautifully-crafted volume of biting political satire featuring a cute lion. (No, not the one pictured below.)
For the love of God please don’t upset him or we’ll get more like this.
So the Supreme Court has delivered its brutal verdict. The prorogation of Parliament was completely unlawful and now, in effect, never happened. Parliament is officially still in session. The same Parliament that has stupendously failed to solve Brexit for three years can reconvene and continue to fail to solve it. What now?
Jeremy Corbyn stood up a few minutes ago at the Labour conference and demanded that Boris Johnson stand down immediately and hold a general election, as did several other opposition leaders. Which, alert readers may recall, is what Johnson tried to do, twice, barely a fortnight ago, and was blocked by the opposition.
Presumably if he tries again, they all now have to cooperate and vote for it, even though the dissolution of Parliament would render the Benn bill requiring him to ask the EU for an extension first null and void. So there’ll be a general election held on the subject of “Who rules the country – the people or the courts?”, which is what Johnson wanted all along. Um, victory?
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PS Fun trivia fact: UK electoral law requires 25 working days between the dissolution of Parliament and the date of a general election. There are exactly 27 working days (inclusive) between now and 31 October.
A few minutes later, Momentum activist Cathleen Clarke and former Tony Blair adviser John McTernan appeared on Sky News to sort it all out for confused viewers.
(Editor’s note: as a result of this cartoon, Mr Cairns has been sent on mandatory administrative leave of absence to let’s call it a “health spa” for the next two weeks. While he’s receiving let’s call it “therapy”, fill the gap by purchasing the latest volume of his works, which is guaranteed not to contain this one, we can only hope and pray.) .
Yeah, we know, that could be a really long article. But we have a specific thing in mind.
Over the last few days, Jo Swinson and Willie Rennie have both endured toe-curling interviews trying to defend the comically-indefensible hypocrisy of the party’s positions on Brexit and independence.
(If you haven’t been following, official policy now is that a Lib Dem election win is a clear and unimpeachable mandate to carry out their manifesto promises, but an SNP election win isn’t a mandate to carry out theirs.)
But it’s not the mere crass, transparent hypocrisy that makes them stupid.
In normal times we’d at least find today’s landmark defeat of the UK government in a Scottish court amusing. But these are not normal times, and at the present moment our toxic loathing of every politician in Westminster makes it a bitter fruit.
Although we must admit this bit still did manage to raise a smile:
(The reason, incidentally, is that the English High Court wasn’t sitting in August.)
What does it all actually mean, though? Well, nothing good.
Supporters of the opposition’s plan to block a no-deal Brexit have been proclaiming vindication this weekend over a couple of polls which show significantly lower support for the Tories, and a lead for Labour, in the event that a general election is called after 31 October with Brexit not having happened.
In that scenario, Tory voters tell pollsters that they’re more likely to defect to the Brexit Party, and the resulting split in the Brexit vote appears to point towards a Labour-led government if you plug the figures into a site like Electoral Calculus.
The reality is much more complicated than that. But what we’re specifically interested in is how it would affect the chances of securing a second indyref, so let’s take a look.
Lorncal on The Other Kind Of Winning: “H McH: I really believe that, in the end, there will be no alternative to an immediate UDI in the…” Aug 12, 15:40
lothianlad on The Other Kind Of Winning: “If its the National reporting, you know its duff information.” Aug 12, 15:17
100%Yes on The Other Kind Of Winning: “The first failure of the SNP under Sturgeon was when she was on her grand tour in Edinburgh, I stayed…” Aug 12, 15:10
H Scott on The Other Kind Of Winning: “It’s standard practice to strip out Don’t Knows. The significance of the result is that it shows a much higher…” Aug 12, 15:09
Minceheid on The Other Kind Of Winning: “Here’s the deguffed archive version: https://archive.is/KGVkT” Aug 12, 14:52
crisiscult on The Other Kind Of Winning: “I’m in no way defending the National, and going further, a story in their paper that promotes actual movement on…” Aug 12, 14:49
aLurker on The Other Kind Of Winning: “Oh FFS. “Scots give verdict on unilateral declaration of independence” https://www.thenational.scot/news/26455863.scots-give-verdict-unilateral-declaration-independence/” Aug 12, 14:29
Hatey McHateface on The Other Kind Of Winning: ““rather unlikely the Brits could do anything about it” They might immediately stop paying benefits and pensions. I’m entirely in…” Aug 12, 14:23
Chas on The Party Of The Dead: “I will ask you yet again Alf, who forms an honest, competent Government if Independence was achieved any time soon.…” Aug 12, 13:54
Hatey McHateface on The Party Of The Dead: “Just as well no understanding of statistics is needed to design a ferry, eh, Alf?” Aug 12, 13:48
aLurker on The Other Kind Of Winning: “I am having some difficulty reconciling the donut chart graphic which shows, among other things, that the ‘Don’t know’ cohort…” Aug 12, 13:45
Potace on The Other Kind Of Winning: “Said it before and will say it again. The National only exists, and only ever existed, to leverage and exploit…” Aug 12, 13:44
Hatey McHateface on The Party Of The Dead: “Quite smart, Confused. I note you have no intention of cutting the trucking routes heading north. The ones shifting the…” Aug 12, 13:39
TURABDIN on The Other Kind Of Winning: “Were a collective/ junta/ faction consisting of Scotland’s brightest, one would hope for the brightest, were to do a well…” Aug 12, 13:38
Hibbie02 on The Other Kind Of Winning: “Go Stu, nice analogy! Still sticking it to the Hun after all these years!” Aug 12, 13:19
Rob on The Other Kind Of Winning: “That poll shows that 3/4 of the population oppose or don’t have have an opinion one way or the other…” Aug 12, 13:01
Spartan 117 on The Other Kind Of Winning: “The National is a Goebellsian comic strip that does more to damage any credibility of the Independence movement than anything…” Aug 12, 12:49
agentx on The Party Of The Dead: ““ALMOST half of Scots would back the Scottish Government declaring independence without a referendum or Westminster’s permission, The National can…” Aug 12, 11:50
Alf Baird on The Party Of The Dead: “Reflecting a far better understanding of our ever-worsening colonial condition, it finally looks like maist Scots have haed eneuch an…” Aug 12, 11:20
Confused on The Party Of The Dead: “GERS when the people who robbed you, tell you how poor you are – let’s talk about GDP per capita…” Aug 12, 11:01
Captain Caveman on The Party Of The Dead: “Southwest Scotland would be awesome 🙂 Sadly though. It comes down to tax. I’m about to go for early retirement…” Aug 12, 10:15
Captain Caveman on The Party Of The Dead: ““Bald Eagle” 😀 Love it. Hand me the Pledge and duster” Aug 12, 10:13
TURABDIN on The Party Of The Dead: “security, war & collateral damage futures, a stock that never fails…certainly worked in Iraq. But first you must destroy &…” Aug 12, 08:53
gm on The Party Of The Dead: “Well spotted Turabdin. The Ruling Class.” Aug 11, 22:05
James on The Party Of The Dead: ““….Who is the pathetic twat?” Still you, Bubba.” Aug 11, 21:10
Hatey McHateface on The Party Of The Dead: “Generally speaking, TURABDIN, in our culture, we don’t expect the offspring of anybody to be held accountable for the sins…” Aug 11, 21:06
Hatey McHateface on The Party Of The Dead: “Isn’t that how to deal with a fatberg? Divide it into smaller lumps that can then be individually flushed.” Aug 11, 20:56
Aidan on The Party Of The Dead: “What useful activities do you spend your day doing that you can be “diverted” and “distracted” from?” Aug 11, 20:40
Young Lochinvar on The Party Of The Dead: “OL Probably to hide the fact he hadn’t fully thawed out, plus all the resuscitation equipment he requires when brought…” Aug 11, 19:39