The world's most-read Scottish politics website

Wings Over Scotland


Archive for the ‘history’


The empty omelette 198

Posted on December 11, 2020 by

For much of last year, this site advocated a rational but unpopular position – namely that the SNP, which at the time held the balance of power in the UK parliament, should offer to support Theresa May’s soft-Brexit deal in exchange for the transfer of powers to hold a second independence referendum.

The logic was clear – nothing was ever going to stop Brexit from happening, but passing May’s deal would save the UK from the catastrophe of a no-deal. Everyone would be a winner – England and Wales would get what they voted for, Remain-voting Northern Ireland would get special terms that kept it in the EU in all but name, and Scotland would get the chance to stay in the EU as an independent nation.

“But no!”, everyone screamed at us. “We can’t possibly do any sort of deal with the Tories or we’d be electorally crucified and lose the referendum, you idiots!”

Record scratch, jump-cut to the present day.

[Pause for long, weary sigh.]

Read the rest of this entry →

Any minute now 129

Posted on November 22, 2020 by

From 2016 (and another classic in the “missing words” category).

We were keen to read the article, obviously.

Read the rest of this entry →

An Auld Sang 70

Posted on August 13, 2020 by

Chilling indeed, 1992 Sunday Times. Chilling indeed.

Premature chickens 84

Posted on July 05, 2020 by

We were looking for something else this afternoon, but accidentally found this:

Just two weeks before the last Holyrood election, widely-respected analysts Weber Shandwick had put together a prediction of how the results would pan out. Just for a bit of fun, let’s compare it to the reality.

Read the rest of this entry →

From the archives #14 675

Posted on June 29, 2020 by

We were rummaging around semi-aimlessly in the vaults last night, readers, and we were rather startled to come across this:

Shows what YOU lot know, eh?

Read the rest of this entry →

Letting the days go by 278

Posted on June 18, 2020 by

BBC Scotland, then and now.

We’re pretty sure they used the same “separating rival groups” phrasing at Tianenmen Square too, but we’d have to go and check. Meanwhile, here’s what really happened.

From the archives #13 657

Posted on June 14, 2020 by

We’ve noticed a fair few Unionists this week proudly claiming that an independent Scotland would have been too broke to survive the coronavirus pandemic. They might not listen to our many and comprehensive rebuttals, but maybe they’d heed the words of Tony Blair, from way back in October 1987:

The sliding doors of history, there, readers. When Unionists tell you Scotland is feeble, remember who made it that way, and never forget how it could have been.

A bit of spot colour 141

Posted on May 19, 2020 by

We thought readers might be interested in a small update on yesterday’s post. As we told you, Graham Shields – the Head of Strategic Communications and Engagement at the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service who fobbed off our complaint about newspapers enabling the identification of sexual assault accusers – was the editor of the Evening Times until he was let go in December 2017.

Which is just two months after this happened:

So you’d think that if anyone knew what jigsaw identification looked like, he would.

Hubris: A Warning From History 126

Posted on January 17, 2020 by

We had a brief but semi-enlightening debate on Twitter with some daft young idiot from Scottish Labour this morning, which culminated in his desperately clutching at votes for the Tories and Lib Dems last month as somehow representing a victory for Labour.

Readers can pass an idle moment by identifying all the obvious logical flaws in that tweet for themselves, but it did lead us to a striking realisation, which we instinctively knew was true but still had to double-check because it seems so ridiculous.

Read the rest of this entry →

From the archives #12 410

Posted on January 07, 2020 by

Over the last few days, for want of anything more interesting happening in Scottish politics, we’ve been reviewing some of the entertainingly fluid criteria by which Unionist politicians used to assert that Scotland could supposedly achieve independence. But we hadn’t seen this one before:

A view apparently “almost universally shared among English Tory backbenchers” back in the late 1980s was that independence could be won by the SNP securing a majority of Scottish MPs at not one but two successive UK general elections.

Given that that line has now been crossed in THREE Westminster elections in a row, we’re all agog to find where Boris Johnson will move the goalposts to in his keenly-awaited response to the Scottish Government’s second Section 30 request, which he’s due to deliver any minute now.

From the archives #11 95

Posted on January 06, 2020 by

We’ve never been able to actually confirm the oft-cited “quote” from Margaret Thatcher suggesting that the SNP winning a majority of Scottish seats at a UK election would constitute a mandate for independence, but here’s a verified more recent one from a then-serving Conservative PM.

“[John] Major has made it clear that a majority of SNP MPs after an election would serve as a mandate to begin negotiations for separation. There are no plans to hold a referendum”, said former Thatcher minister and party chairman Norman Tebbit a few months before the 1997 election.

It was a position the Tories held right up to 2010 – the last election at which the SNP didn’t win a majority of Scottish seats, at which point the goalposts magically shifted. Now, of course, the rule is that a majority of MPs doesn’t count, but you also can’t have a referendum.

Scotland is a prisoner without hope of parole. Time for a breakout.

From the archives #10 91

Posted on January 03, 2020 by

From less than 10 years ago:

A plebiscitary election? Now there’s an idea you don’t hear much any more.

  • About

    Wings Over Scotland is a thing that exists.

    Stats: 6,904 Posts, 1,241,312 Comments

  • Recent Posts

  • Archives

  • Categories

  • Tags

  • Recent Comments

    • Hatey McHateface on And Nothing Happened Forever: ““en masse, they can barely manage to speak the English language properly, is a bridge to far for most” And…May 9, 20:20
    • Hatey McHateface on And Nothing Happened Forever: “So we’ve five years of Geri pushing toxins. You got EXACTLY the result you wanted, Geri. Don’t insult our intelligence…May 9, 20:09
    • Hatey McHateface on And Nothing Happened Forever: “Wow, Geri. Didn’t take you long to start on your next 5-year plan for carpet bagging your agenda on the…May 9, 19:59
    • Hatey McHateface on And Nothing Happened Forever: ““They don’t even want devolouton” “they were not prepared for more devolouton” They don’t even know what it is. Why…May 9, 19:54
    • ALANM on And Nothing Happened Forever: “You won’t get much support here for that point of view and so I thought I should offer mine. I…May 9, 19:44
    • TURABDIN on And Nothing Happened Forever: “THE POLITICAL CLASS survives thanks to collective amnesia.May 9, 19:29
    • 100%Yes on And Nothing Happened Forever: “The SNP has to know the constant vote for Indy sooner or later is going to fail because lets be…May 9, 19:02
    • Mark Beggan on And Nothing Happened Forever: “Or as an alternative: Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict.May 9, 18:19
    • Jay on And Nothing Happened Forever: “Re. Tommo, inverted commas for ‘elect’, is that a comment on the ‘closed list’ system?May 9, 18:16
    • Geri on And Nothing Happened Forever: “Lorna, Aye. I was joking too. That it wouldn’t be a bad thing if he did rock up for the…May 9, 17:57
    • TURABDIN on And Nothing Happened Forever: “spineless, slithering, slobbering beasts copulating together….but with what?May 9, 17:34
    • Tommo on And Nothing Happened Forever: “‘So we really may as well not have bothered’ The same could be said of both the mainland devolved assemblies;…May 9, 17:26
    • paul on And Nothing Happened Forever: “From Sri Lanka’s electoral commision: 03. What are the qualifications and disqualifications to be a candidate at a Parliamentary election…May 9, 17:23
    • Breastplate on And Nothing Happened Forever: “Aidan, pu tin is used as a bogeyman to scare the bejeesus out of us western plebs. The horrific idea…May 9, 17:08
    • Lorncal on And Nothing Happened Forever: “Och me, it was a joke, Geri. Yes, I agree that this is a very evident sign of decay on…May 9, 17:07
    • Geri on And Nothing Happened Forever: “It has done a lot of good, TBF. Once SNP completed Alex Salmonds projects the decline & rot started. Sturgeon…May 9, 17:07
    • Sven on And Nothing Happened Forever: “Turabdin @ 11.30. Somehow as I survey the Cowards’ Castle of self serving careerists at Holyrood the portion of W…May 9, 16:55
    • What Rot on And Nothing Happened Forever: “We DID start somewhere. We’ll never get closer than to where Alex took us. The generation that fought with Alex…May 9, 16:50
    • Bilbo on And Nothing Happened Forever: “The media focus on all these boats coming across the English channel but nothing is mentioned about the many, many…May 9, 16:28
    • Lorncal on And Nothing Happened Forever: “Thank you for that, Sven. I was going to do a bit of research myself because I wasn’t sure. That…May 9, 16:25
    • Rob on And Nothing Happened Forever: “Is the closure of the Scottish parliament really such a bad thing? I would vote for its removal these days…May 9, 16:17
    • Bilbo on And Nothing Happened Forever: “I had caught a bit of Swinney on Sky news and it was vomit inducing. It’s hard not to get…May 9, 16:14
    • Mark Beggan on And Nothing Happened Forever: ““Whatever happened to Leon Trotsky? He got an Ice pick that made his ears burn.”May 9, 16:13
    • Bilbo on And Nothing Happened Forever: “With respect, you come into this forum with such nonsensical stuff about the SNP. It’s coming across as you are…May 9, 16:07
    • Bilbo on And Nothing Happened Forever: “What Rot If you had actually read it, the AI response I had quoted was a summary of the specific…May 9, 15:54
    • TURABDIN on And Nothing Happened Forever: “Life is not an easy matter… You cannot live through it without falling into frustration and cynicism unless you have…May 9, 15:53
    • Geri on And Nothing Happened Forever: “Okeydoke, I see what you mean. You’re referring to the UK being a signatory. Interesting can of worms that. Could…May 9, 15:52
    • Geri on And Nothing Happened Forever: “He isn’t a signatory. He withdrew over Crimea. Crimea was never a part of an independent U. U failed to…May 9, 15:25
    • Mark Beggan on And Nothing Happened Forever: “‘And what costume shall the poor girl wear To all tomorrow’s parties? A hand-me-down dress from who knows where To…May 9, 15:19
    • Jim Thomson on And Nothing Happened Forever: “Why would the unionist media want to do that?May 9, 15:16
  • A tall tale



↑ Top