Something rather extraordinary happened yesterday, dearest readers. Very briefly, we absolutely genuinely thought someone in a position of some influence in the SNP had taken a meaningful step towards being serious about independence.
We are not being sarcastic. Look: here it is. (Transcript at bottom of article.)
Dave Doogan is the SNP’s leader at Westminster. And let’s be clear: that is EXACTLY what the SNP’s stance ought to be. Its only purpose is supposed to be the securing of Scottish independence, and no peaceful democratic means of achieving that ought to be off the table. We couldn’t believe what we were hearing, like it was a dream.
The SNP was not formed with the purpose of denying England/the UK the government it voted for, it was formed to completely sever the governance of Scotland and England from each other as a matter of permanent principle, nothing to do with the prevailing political climate at any given point.
If England wants Nigel Farage as Prime Minister, that’s England’s business. The point of independence is that Scotland doesn’t have to get him too. No more, no less.
So obviously, the hapless Doogan’s brave and bright new dawn was brutally slapped down within a matter of hours.
If events in Edinburgh today are anything to go by – when a march and rally announced with great fanfare seven months ago, backed by both the “independence” parties in the Scottish Parliament and featuring the First Minister as main speaker, attracted perhaps 1,500 people at the most to Calton Hill on a bright and sunny day – the independence movement faces an imminent final apocalypse.
So here’s how to prepare yourself for when the SNP win a landslide with 35%, Keir Starmer says “So what?” and then a deathly silence descends for another five years.
Even Kelly Given and Iona Fyfe didn’t show up for this one. That’s how bad it is.
According to a new poll, fewer than a third of SNP voters even think independence is in the top three priorities facing Scotland.
It’s only five points ahead of immigration in fourth place, and seven ahead of housing. So it’s hardly surprising that the SNP aren’t bothering themselves about it. Their own support, like the party, is very comfortable with the way things are.
We were going to write something today for the anniversary of Alex Salmond’s tragic death, but then we read Kevin McKenna’s piece in today’s Herald On Sunday and we can’t improve on it, so go and have a read of that before you do anything else.
Alex always believed in looking forward, not back, so we doubt he’d be overly fussed at the pathetic “tribute” paid to him at the SNP conference this morning. What would undoubtedly have exercised him a lot more would have been the wretched current state of the party he loved and built from almost nothing into the dominant force in Scottish politics.
And nothing typifies that wretched state better than the craven and gutless capitulation of a speech given by Tommy Sheppard yesterday, opposing the rebel amendments to John Swinney’s non-strategy on independence.
It said a lot more than he thought it did, but none of it good.
It’s really very hard to overstate what mendacious, duplicitous shite this is.
It did its job, though. As expected, the SNP conference comprehensively voted down the rebel amendments to Swinney’s motion on independence “strategy” and backed his grand plan of winning a majority, begging Keir Starmer for a second referendum – just like Nicola Sturgeon and Humza Yousaf had done before him with Theresa May, Boris Johnson, Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak – and then scuttling obediently away with his tail between his legs when Starmer told him to get lost.
A little over two years ago, three SNP MSPs contested the leadership of the party in the wake of the sudden resignation of Nicola Sturgeon. All were full of grand plans and dreams for the future of the party, the nation and the independence movement.
None of the three is leader now, and in nine months’ time none of them will be SNP MSPs. Indeed, it’s overwhelmingly likely that none will be an MSP at all.
And that, readers, is not a sign of a party – or indeed a Parliament – in good health.
It can be very hard to follow the arguments of people trying to convince you to vote for the SNP on the regional list at next year’s election. Here’s one just a month ago:
So that’s clear – indy supporters MUST IGNORE the “siren voices” telling them to vote for smaller indy parties, because they can’t win any seats and therefore to vote for them is to “throw away” your list vote.
And this was them just two weeks ago, strenuously insisting that the small parties were a busted flush and there was no chance of a “non-SNP route to independence”:
So it was a bit confusing to read this yesterday:
Because all of a sudden, it seems that you CAN vote for the smaller indy parties, regardless of whether they win seats or not, because the list vote will actually be a de-facto referendum and the votes will still count. And indeed, apparently you SHOULD do so, because an SNP-only route – the thing which was the only hope a fortnight ago – is now “totally unachievable” and ONLY working in concert with the smaller indy parties can succeed.
Heavens, what huge transformative event did we miss?
Back in the 1980s and 1990s, before the internet, scammers used to have to work a bit harder to cheat people than they do now.
A popular method was to advertise a “clearance sale” in the press. You’d see an ad in the Daily Record or a local paper for an event in a High Street location – typically a vacant shop – promising brand-new TVs for £20, microwaves for a fiver, toasters for £2.50 or whatever. So you’d show up on the day and it always worked the same.
There’d be the ringmaster on a raised platform, surrounded by loads of unmarked white boxes, and he’d start off by picking some “random” punter from the crowd and bestowing gifts upon him. This guy would walk away with armfuls of swag for £25 or something (doubtless just going straight round the back with them), and the real show would begin.
Next the ringmaster would say “Now, before we get properly started, who’ll give me £10 for what’s on my mind?” (that phrase, “what’s on my mind”, was always the same). And basically they were flogging a mystery box, invariably containing a few trashy trinkets worth a fraction of the cost.
Any chump who bought one would then be escorted out of the shop before opening it, on the pretence that the bargains on offer in these sales were so great that they were limited to one per person. (There was always security on the door, sometimes even cops. There’s nothing intrinsically illegal about selling mystery boxes, even mainstream chainstores still do it today.)
And that was basically it. The ringmaster would delay and delay, punting more mystery boxes and never actually getting to the bit where you could buy a specific item at a specific price, and after a couple of hours the event would close down and the would-be customers would disperse in disgruntlement.
Seamus Logan, an SNP MP of whom it has often been said “Seamus who?”, has an article in The National today categorically ruling out Scotland achieving independence via a democratic vote in an event fully recognised by the UK government.
Logan’s stance that if begging Westminster for another Section 30 doesn’t work (which it doesn’t, hasn’t and never will) then it’s basically impossible and we should just give up has – to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention – been official SNP policy since at least the resignation of Nicola Sturgeon and in reality long before then, and we don’t think it’s a coincidence that the party has lost more than half of its members and over 40% of its voters over that period.
James Che on The Shortest Day: “It is Westminsters own devolved government they sent to Scotland that requres permission to leave and has to ask for…” Aug 30, 09:02
Hatey McHateface on The Slowest Dawning: “I guess you need to have experienced the utter tedium of living for a thousand years, while traversing the mind-numbing…” Aug 30, 08:49
Bilbo on The Shortest Day: “People are too dumb to realise that Net Zero is a corporate marketing campaign in order to get people to…” Aug 30, 08:48
James Che on The Shortest Day: “As the 2014 question from Westminster was an illegal piece of fiction to Sovereign Scots not in the treaty of…” Aug 30, 08:48
Hatey McHateface on The Shortest Day: “Wheesht, John! There’s no more appetite for truth tellers on Wings BTL than there is in the parliamentary SNP. Perhaps,…” Aug 30, 08:43
James Che on The Shortest Day: “Obviously Scots do not require a % of votes to leave a treaty of union they were not invited to…” Aug 30, 08:42
James Che on The Shortest Day: “Spartan 117. On your comment yesterday regarding ” but you had a vote in 2014, Here is a logical response.…” Aug 30, 08:31
Hatey McHateface on The Shortest Day: “Blown away by your insight, SR. “No True Scot votes Yes” about sums it up.” Aug 30, 08:31
John McNab on The Shortest Day: “Why shouldn’t John Swinney “lustily belt out” the National Anthem? There’s no clear indication that this chimera of “independence” which…” Aug 30, 05:58
Peter McAvoy on The Shortest Day: “Early last month the USA celebrated the 250th anniversary of independence I don’t recall on any documentaries,books magazines or online…” Aug 30, 02:19
Saffron Robe on The Shortest Day: “That’s a very good point, James. Why should we vote to leave something we never voted for in the first…” Aug 30, 01:26
robertkknight on The Shortest Day: “Once upon a time, the raison d’être of the SNP was to restore Scottish Independence. In my day, this resulted…” Aug 30, 01:04
James on The Slowest Dawning: “Ah, but wha needs Fannny when we’ve got twa redundant “Pricks” like youse?” Aug 30, 00:37
Young Lochinvar on The Shortest Day: “S117 Alf is right. A lot of us felt very angry with the “my heart said.. but my head said”…” Aug 29, 22:38
Effijy on The Shortest Day: “Reform are right wing fascists who like Trump are there to make the rich richer and using corruption at the…” Aug 29, 22:14
sarah on The Shortest Day: “As someone said here the other day “even Homer nods”! Geoff is a founder of the SSRG, I believe, and…” Aug 29, 22:05
Spartan 117 on The Shortest Day: “A good post Dan and, regarding your closing sentence, you’ve only got to read anything on the internet to see…” Aug 29, 21:55
Spartan 117 on The Shortest Day: “A good post and, regarding your closing sentence, you’ve only got to read anything on the internet to see that…” Aug 29, 21:53
Aidan on The Shortest Day: “I bet you’re popular in the village cracking on like that. But just so you know, I have a V8…” Aug 29, 21:35
Spartan 117 on The Shortest Day: ““Yoon”… To quote your favourite reply, “LOL”. There’s nothing “Yoon” about me. Last time round, I paid attention to the…” Aug 29, 21:35
Alf Baird on The Shortest Day: ““I voted “No” in 2014” You and others like you deprived us Scots our freedom. English Tory rule that appealing,…” Aug 29, 20:55
James on The Shortest Day: “The SNP troughers want gravy, now. As you know [and as has been explained numerous times by this sites author]…” Aug 29, 20:06
James on The Shortest Day: “Fish Face is the Chief Clown as you well know.” Aug 29, 20:01
Shug on The Shortest Day: “I wonder why nobe of them ecer have the balls to twll HO the f…. Off I stand by my…” Aug 29, 19:56
James on The Shortest Day: “That right, aye? Aye, nae rigged postal votes, nae peculiar toon cooncil type franchise, nae ootside political or media interference.…” Aug 29, 19:48
panda paws on The Shortest Day: ““John Swinney’s already upped the stakes by standing in front of a Glasgow crowd in his shortbread-tin outfit and lustily…” Aug 29, 19:12
Spartan 117 on The Shortest Day: “Errrrmmm, we had an independence vote in 2014 which resulted in independence being rejected. Voter turnout was very high (85%)…” Aug 29, 18:47
Dan on The Shortest Day: ““It was outside our price range, but we decided to do the right thing, sacrifice somewhere else and move to…” Aug 29, 18:45