The plugin which normally embeds our Twitter feed on the Wings front page still isn’t working (doubtless because Twitter have made yet more spiteful and idiotic changes to their API), so those of you who don’t use the social media platform may have missed out on a gem this morning from everyone’s favourite Labour ultra-moderate.
Phew! Saved from economic devastation! Sounds like a narrow escape!
There’s a fascinating piece in the Guardian this morning.
It reveals that in attempting to solve the unsolvable Irish border problem, the EU’s Brexit negotiators are – at the UK’s behest – trying to come up with a plan which would preclude its use for Scotland in the event of independence.
That’s an entirely legitimate course of action. Having lacked the courage to establish itself as a nation, Scotland shouldn’t expect to be treated as one by either the EU or the UK (which has demonstrated its contempt by flatly refusing Scotland any voice in negotiations). The EU is quite properly, and admirably stoutly, defending the interests of its member state, Ireland. Would that Scotland had such clout.
But it’s worth taking a second to ponder what it all means.
Vince Cable, who was once apparently some sort of politician, took it upon himself to issue an opinion yesterday on the subject of referendums that had independence supporters on social media hooting with mocking laughter long into the night.
The estimable Wee Ginger Dug has already dealt adroitly with just the 300 or so most obviously ridiculous aspects of Cable’s tone-deaf and spectacularly hypocritical view, so we won’t step on his paws by repeating them here.
Instead we thought we’d do what we do best, and check the facts.
Readers may have noted a fairly concerted attempt over the last 18 months or so by the opponents of Scottish independence to get Wings Over Scotland shut down. But sometimes the greatest danger comes from the people you least suspect.
Because the thing SNP MP Pete Wishart is lauding in that tweet earlier today, and has been agitating for for months, would, without a shadow of a doubt, kill this website and scores of others like it overnight.
So this didn’t go down too well on social media last night.
Prof Bueltmann, who’s made her life in Scotland for 20 years, was (as far as we can tell) the only independence supporter to speak at a poorly-attended rally in Edinburgh calling for a fatuously-named “People’s Vote” on Brexit.
And when some Twitter users expressed a modicum of resentment at being ordered to get behind the “People’s Vote” campaign by the very people who are responsible for Scotland still being shackled to the UK and therefore dragged out of the EU in the first place, the Unionists got terribly hurt and sniffy.
You may have seen yesterday’s interview with new Catalonian president Quim Torra on The Alex Salmond Show. But we’re very excited to bring you this EXCLUSIVE full edit, almost twice as long as the broadcast edition.
(And yes, we’ve got full copyright clearance for it.)
Scottish politics is still resolutely on holiday, but in response to an enquiry from Prof. Sir John Curtice today we noticed that we still hadn’t published a few snippets of data from our most recent Panelbase poll. So in the absence of anything else to talk about, we might as well have a wee look.
Our poll showed a strikingly large gulf in support for the EU between independence supporters and Unionists. Were there to be a second EU referendum tomorrow, Yes voters would choose remain by an enormous 36-point margin, and by well over two to one, whereas No voters were a much tighter eight points apart, with only barely over half plumping for Remain.
But even that overstates Unionists’ fondness for the European Union.
It’s probably overdue that we start collecting these together. So here’s Sir John Major on the Andrew Marr show yesterday, explaining why a “once in a lifetime” referendum should in fact be held again because its outcome was determined by something that turned out to be untrue.
Which is, of course, totally different to Scotland being told to vote No in 2014 in order to stay in the European Union, because [REASONS TO FOLLOW AT SOME POINT]
Labour MP Stella Creasy, explaining to Sarah Smith on today’s Sunday Politics why she backs a so-called “People’s Vote” on Brexit because voters should have the right to change their mind about a referendum if circumstances change.
Aidan on Faces In Sand: “Why is it @Alf – that you comment almost entirely in riddles and abstraction?” Oct 22, 16:13
Aidan on Faces In Sand: “I would also add that the circumstances around the formation of a treaty 300 years ago is an issue that…” Oct 22, 16:10
Alf Baird on Faces In Sand: ““Scotland currently has full civil rights” A colonized people are a subordinated people subject to cultural erasure and economic extraction,…” Oct 22, 16:05
Northcode on Faces In Sand: “James — whatever people believe about 1606, 1707, treaties, petitions, parliaments, monarchs, or historical grievances, none of that changes how…” Oct 22, 16:04
factchecker on Faces In Sand: “Thanks for all the rational analysis, NC. Democratic legitimacy is indeed the key. Apart from anything else, the Claim of…” Oct 22, 15:43
James Che on Faces In Sand: “North code. If the Scots are not a Colonised people, and the monarch of England withdrew the parliament of Scotland…” Oct 22, 15:38
sam on Faces In Sand: “It is true that legally Scotland will not be recognised as a colony. It is also true that it was…” Oct 22, 15:25
James Che on Faces In Sand: “North code, I like the phrasing you used, So what would or could Westminster actually do or achieve if it…” Oct 22, 15:21
sarah on Faces In Sand: “Rev, will the gathering that you attended in London last night that included Maya Forstater and other like-minded people, be…” Oct 22, 14:24
Northcode on Faces In Sand: “The point you’re making would apply in situations where a people are actually colonised. But Scotland isn’t a colony, and…” Oct 22, 14:22
Northcode on Faces In Sand: “The borders between England, Scotland, and Wales mark historic countries within a single sovereign state. England, Scotland, and Wales are…” Oct 22, 14:13
Aidan on Faces In Sand: “If you’re upset with the company Geri – you could always post the same stuff under your own name on…” Oct 22, 13:55
Northcode on Faces In Sand: “Alf – I wrote that Scotland currently has full civil rights. I didn’t mention human rights at all. You shifted…” Oct 22, 13:53
James on Faces In Sand: “Here we go again. *sigh* Today’s crossword clue A country which has no control over its own borders, resources, broadcast…” Oct 22, 13:48
James on Faces In Sand: ““…I haven’t used AI in any of what I wrote above…” LOLZ.” Oct 22, 13:45
James on Faces In Sand: “3 in a row. Bingo!” Oct 22, 13:37
Geri on Faces In Sand: “Aye Dan.. You’ve just reminded me why I gave up on here. It’s a mystery why so many fucking fuds…” Oct 22, 13:04
Alf Baird on Faces In Sand: “Democracy can only exist once a colonized people are outside the firm grip of the oppressor and his colonial administrators…” Oct 22, 13:04
Aidan on Faces In Sand: ““Liberation Scotland has been visiting the United Nations Human Rights Council in Geneva to present violations to our human rights,…” Oct 22, 12:14
Northcode on Faces In Sand: “Historical treaty grievances don’t change how sovereignty works today. Modern international bodies don’t adjudicate 18th-century constitutional arrangements. They respond to…” Oct 22, 12:12
Northcode on Faces In Sand: “Alf — human rights concerns can and should be raised wherever people feel they’re not being heard. But even when…” Oct 22, 12:05
James Che on Faces In Sand: “North Code, The UN and the law on treaties would have to consider Scotlands claim that there is no such…” Oct 22, 11:41
Geri on Faces In Sand: “Just a few suggestions of why .. 24/7 pumped propaganda. CIA NGOs littering the place pretending to be charitee. CIA…” Oct 22, 11:36
Aidan on Faces In Sand: “Except I haven’t used AI in any of what I wrote above, I’ve simply used the autotrader app to do…” Oct 22, 11:26
Alf Baird on Faces In Sand: ““Scotland currently has: – full civil rights” Dinna be daft. Liberation Scotland has been visiting the United Nations Human Rights…” Oct 22, 11:19
James Che on Faces In Sand: “North Code, The UN cannot declare Scotland is a Colony, It may be outside their remit, But nor can they…” Oct 22, 11:14
Dan on Faces In Sand: “Test. There’s a post for you waiting in moderation…” Oct 22, 11:10
Captain Caveman on Faces In Sand: “My 03 plate Mondeo 2.0D Ghia X was easily the worst car I have ever owned. Absolute piece of shit.…” Oct 22, 11:08
Captain Caveman on Faces In Sand: “” There is no democracy possible for a people whose territory has been alienated” World history is littered with clear…” Oct 22, 10:48
Dan on Faces In Sand: “You can call bollocks all you want, but the reality is I have worked in and around the automotive industry…” Oct 22, 10:44