Alert readers may have noticed with barely-concealed disinterest that Scottish Labour have announced their intention to have another really hard think about devolution.
With Labour not looking like being in power at either Holyrood or Westminster for at least a decade, and their opinions therefore being about as relevant as our ideas as to who should play in the back four for Real Madrid next weekend, most papers treated the news with the gravitas it deserved, such as this report in the Sunday Post:
But we thought it might be a snappy idea to keep track of all the times the Unionist parties have promised that they’ve come up with the ultimate form of devo-X.
For some reason the Unionist community has this week been turning the bullhorn up to maximum on the subject of pensions. Most likely provoked by the publication of Dr Craig Dalzell’s fascinating “Beyond GERS”, the usual suspects have returned to the scaremongering tactics deployed during the indyref, attempting to terrorise the elderly with blood-curdling threats of destitution once again.
It’s a bewildering approach, given that the situation regarding pensions is one of the few around independence about which there is known certainty. The UK government already pays the state pension to millions of people outside the UK, under rules which would apply in exactly the same way if Scotland became a “foreign” country.
But just for fun, let’s look at exactly what the situation would be in the monumentally implausible event that Blair McDougall was telling the truth for once.
We expect nothing but idiocy of Fraser. But Mr Torrance, who is a ubiquitous presence in the Scottish media, appears – by no means for the first time – not to have the facts at his fingertips. So let’s see if we can help him out.
Regular readers of this site will be impressed, if perhaps less than astonished, at the new high score achieved this week in the timeless game of McTernan Predicts:
There are three separate articles in today’s Sunday Times on the same subject, all containing the same information, of which the below is the most concise.
There’s a very interesting blog by Douglas Fraser on the BBC website today, pointing out exactly how vague and non-committal yesterday’s “announcement” by UK defence secretary Sir Michael Fallon regarding the long-awaited order of a reduced number of Type 26 frigates for the BAE shipyards in Govan was.
It might explain this extraordinary interview Fallon (alongside a very bad-tempered and unnamed PR goon), gave to Bernard Ponsonby on the evening’s STV News.
What actually happened yesterday was the removal of the threat of blackmail against a Yes vote that had been made against the yards in 2014, and endlessly exploited by the No campaign. The UK government stalled desperately to keep the orders as a bargaining chip in the indyref, not anticipating the prospect of a second one.
But they can’t be delayed forever, and once the orders are in place any possibility of cancelling them is effectively at an end, for a whole slew of mainly extremely obvious reasons. After Fallon had scurried away from him in fear, Ponsonby revealed what the Secretary of State had tried to avoid admitting:
“BAE confirmed to STV News that there is nothing in the contract that would prevent work continuing on the Clyde in the event of a Yes vote in another referendum.”
But Fallon’s toe-curling evasiveness, which finally saw him reduced to hiding behind the skirts of a sour-faced PR woman, had already made that fact clearer than any straight answer could ever have done.
We had a bit of a debate at the weekend with ITV’s generally pretty decent Scotland correspondent Peter Smith, after he tweeted this:
It wasn’t the curious choice of picture we objected to, nor the fact that the £14.8bn figure is a notional sum which is totally meaningless in the context of an independent Scotland (because it represents a vague estimate of the disaggregated finances of a Scotland that’s inside the UK and subject to UK government policy choices).
Nor was it even the implication that a £14.8bn “black hole” was an inherent permanent feature of the Scottish economy rather than an unusually bad year.
What chafed with us was the idea that it was somehow Nicola Sturgeon’s fault.
The starting pistol hasn’t actually been fired on the two-year Brexit process yet, but now we have a clear statement of when it will be: this morning on The Andrew Marr Show, the Prime Minister pledged that it would happen before the end of next March.
(We might end up broke, in other words, but at least we’ll be good old British broke, with none of those awful smelly foreign Euro-Johnnies around to see it.)
And nobody was getting a sick note.
And for supporters of independence, that’s about as good as news gets.
It’s long been a bone of contention for Scots – and not just nationalists – that the UK government, by common agreement, wasted the vast wealth windfall of the North Sea on funding Margaret Thatcher’s 1980s programme of deliberate de-industrialisation, mass unemployment, huge tax cuts for the wealthy and bribes to the working class in the form of Right To Buy.
It did so rather than investing the proceeds in a sovereign wealth fund, as demanded by the SNP (and some elements of Labour) and practiced in Norway, whose fund – only set up in 1990 – is now a literal embarrassment of riches.
But the reality is even worse than that. Because according to a 2015 report by the National Resource Governance Institute that’s just come to our attention, the truth is that if the UK had managed its North Sea treasure better, it could have done both.
Stephen Welsh on Vibecoding A Better World: “Fantastic!, you need to give Grok Bot a play too, not as smart as Claude (at the moment) but really…” Oct 28, 15:24
Chas on Faces In Sand: “Baird-Do you trawl through the comments section on Wings solely to say the same crap time after time AND ESPECIALLY…” Oct 28, 15:21
Lorncal on Faces In Sand: “Alf: even where they have signed a treaty and where they have acquiesced in their own subsumption for over 300…” Oct 28, 15:04
sam on Faces In Sand: “Northcode, Just in case you missed it ( I have been elsewhere) I asked today upthread what you think would…” Oct 28, 15:01
sam on Faces In Sand: “Northcode, What constitutes a mandate?” Oct 28, 14:56
Alf Baird on Faces In Sand: ““I consider it rather self evident that if a regional hub was needed anywhere near here, then Oslo and/or Dublin…” Oct 28, 14:54
Captain Caveman on Faces In Sand: “@Spartan CEng? Respect and kudos 🙂” Oct 28, 14:37
Hatey McHateface on Faces In Sand: “Put even more simply, Alf, you become a regional hub by being in a suitable location for lots of places…” Oct 28, 14:29
Spartan 117 on Faces In Sand: “@Aidan – sadly its the response I’ve come to expect from political types on comment sections on various websites in…” Oct 28, 14:23
Alf Baird on Faces In Sand: “International law relating to territorial alienation informs us that annexation is unlawful; hence an annexed people/nation retain the right to…” Oct 28, 14:19
Hatey McHateface on Faces In Sand: “All very well for you, eh Dan? You’ll be confident that post-Indy, there will be no impact on home soup…” Oct 28, 14:16
Alf Baird on Faces In Sand: ““Overall I would say a net negative for aviation in Scotland” That is not the experience of numerous former colonial…” Oct 28, 13:58
Aidan on Faces In Sand: “What a stupid thing to say Dan, an aviation professional likely means a highly specialised, industry-specific set of skills. It’s…” Oct 28, 13:20
Hamish M on Faces In Sand: “Sadly, a lot of Scotch whisky has greatly declined in quality. Casks are being reused too often to save money…” Oct 28, 13:18
Lorncal on Faces In Sand: “Alf: there are hundreds of thousands of Unionists in Scotland who believe explicitly and implicitly in the Union. Telling them…” Oct 28, 12:43
Spartan 117 on Faces In Sand: “Thank you, I’ll keep an eye out for that and will watch with interest.” Oct 28, 12:41
Alf Baird on Faces In Sand: ““One thing I’m interested in with all this talk about International Law is the aviation policy of an independent Scotland.”…” Oct 28, 12:11
Spartan 117 on Faces In Sand: “Oh sorry, I forgot, in today’s tribal times people aren’t allowed to think critically and change their mind with changing…” Oct 28, 11:55
Dan on Faces In Sand: “spartan says: “As an Aviation professional and independence supporter I’ve been seeking clarification on this since before the last referendum…” Oct 28, 11:17
Spartan 117 on Faces In Sand: “As usual, confusing “opinion” and “fact”, Prof. P.S. Watched your SSRG speech, interesting points to note – some of which…” Oct 28, 10:46
Captain Caveman on Faces In Sand: “To be fair, I was obviously talking about you, Alf, not some other guy. Since you brought him up, though,…” Oct 28, 10:23
Colin Alexander on Faces In Sand: “Just checking: Are you “£1,400 better off” per year as colonial subjects of the English Crown?” Oct 28, 10:13
Alf Baird on Faces In Sand: “On the increasingly obvious reality of the longstanding annexation of Scotland by England, only an eegit would describe Prof Robert…” Oct 28, 10:06
Captain Caveman on Faces In Sand: ““Correction: Annexed Scotland has been subject to the Union hoax since 1707.” Correction: Just because some deranged, delusional, narcissistic old…” Oct 28, 09:46
Alf Baird on Faces In Sand: ““We have been part of a Union since 1707” Correction: Annexed Scotland has been subject to the Union hoax since…” Oct 28, 09:28
Hatey McHateface on Faces In Sand: “I tried that working at night idea but security would never let me in. Jobsworth, fascist cants. A wee word…” Oct 28, 08:55
Minceheid on Faces In Sand: “Hatey McHateface says: 28 October, 2026 at 7:40 am Compared with a 6-pack, a single bottle is easier to shoplift.…” Oct 28, 08:12
Hatey McHateface on Faces In Sand: “It’s not Moon cheese. That’s the kind I’ve been conditioned to believe in. I’m sure you’re right, SBS. You do…” Oct 28, 07:47
Hatey McHateface on Faces In Sand: “Compared with a 6-pack, a single bottle is easier to shoplift. Not me, I hasten to add. Not now the…” Oct 28, 07:40
Bilbo on Faces In Sand: “@ Aidan If the production method to make English whisky is cheaper where savings are passed on and is just…” Oct 27, 21:19