The people (of England) have spoken, and their elected representatives are freaking out all over the shop.
Several senior Labour and Liberal Democrat MPs have openly called for the result of a democratic referendum to be overturned by Parliament against the wishes of voters. The Prime Minister has quit, the Chancellor is expected to follow on Monday, and half of the Labour shadow cabinet is apparently doing it as we speak, after Jeremy Corbyn fired Hilary Benn for planning a coup.
(Apparently including Ian Murray, the shadow Scottish Secretary who’s also the only Scottish Labour MP at Westminster, putting the party in the farcical position of having to find itself a spokesman on Scottish affairs who either sits in an English or Welsh seat or is an unelected lord.)
Labour MPs are also demanding Corbyn’s head, in essence for the crime of his being hugely popular with the party’s membership for reflecting the old-fashioned left-wing ideology and views that they actually believe in, rather than the “moderate” neo-Tory position of Blairite parliamentarians. Corbyn shows no sign of going.
It’s been suggested that the Scottish Parliament could in fact block any attempt by the UK to leave (though it seems unlikely). Britain faces a future without Milky Way Magic Stars. UK politics, to put it mildly, is in chaos. So what the hell’s going on?
Scotland (overwhelmingly) and Northern Ireland (less so) have voted to stay in Europe while England (decisively) and Wales (narrowly) have voted to leave. Northern Ireland has its own choices to make, but Scotland must now hold a second referendum.
The game just changed, readers. We’ve been up all night. We’ll have some analysis for you in a few hours. For now, spend a few moments pondering who the “narrow nationalists” and “separatists” in the UK are.
We know it’s early doors, but we’re going to state with some confidence now that this is the Tweet Of The Night:
Yes, that really is Tim Stanley, leader writer of the Telegraph, complaining about being up against the British establishment in a referendum. (In which Leave was supported by, among others, the Sun, the Daily Mail, the Telegraph, and the Daily Express – the #1, #2, #4 and #6 best-selling newspapers in the country – along with around half of the MPs of the governing party.)
For extra fun, we might collect some of his indyref tweets later. But to the very best of our recollection, he didn’t consider the Yes campaign’s 45% – which really WAS achieved against the entire British establishment, without a single daily newspaper’s support – as a “moral victory”.
(Part of a fairly major volte-face by Harris on who should control what in Scotland, but let’s not get into that right now.)
On the face of it, this is a perfectly feasible possibility, since devolution was set up on a “reserved list” basis – any issues not specifically reserved to Westminster are devolved to the Scottish Parliament. In theory this would indeed mean that powers over farming and fishing would revert to Holyrood automatically upon exit from the EU.
(And even that view is conditional on whether you consider Scottish independence the most important political goal of your life. If it’s more important to you to be out of the EU than out of the UK then clearly you’ll be voting Leave and there’s nothing we could say that would change your mind.)
But what if you happen to be a supporter of Scottish independence who DOESN’T live in Scotland? What then?
sam on The Longest Road: “Northcode I think this is why it happened. Frae the BBC. “The estate of former first minister Alex Salmond is…” Feb 17, 14:10
Hatey McHateface on The Longest Road: “It’s an interesting case, right enough. As already covered by Our Host, not that long ago, Mr Hirst lost his…” Feb 17, 14:05
Hatey McHateface on The Longest Road: “To paraphrase my dear departed Mammie: Fa “classified [ye] as an inferior subject rather than an equal citizen”, Alf? Haha,…” Feb 17, 13:40
sarah on The Longest Road: “@ 100%Yes: good man for posting this link to the Mark Hirst crowdfunder. What a wonderful day it will be…” Feb 17, 13:23
Hatey McHateface on The Longest Road: “Enough of that, Northy. I don’t want you subtly fooling me into thinking an interstellar Pict can ever be regarded…” Feb 17, 12:42
Alf Baird on The Longest Road: “Yes indeed, very interesting, including the definition of “modern colonialism” which: “depends first and foremost upon the declaration of sovereignty…” Feb 17, 12:38
Northcode on The Longest Road: “From the same article. “…colonialism depends first and foremost upon the declaration of sovereignty and/or territorial seizure by a core…” Feb 17, 12:34
willie on The Longest Road: “I think civil actions can effectively be be bought and sold, The classic example of this is no win,no fee…” Feb 17, 12:22
100%Yes on The Longest Road: “He was revealing a lot more than people took on.” Feb 17, 12:22
Northcode on The Longest Road: “I rarely feel the urge to respond to your stuff, but you actually made me laugh out loud… not bad…” Feb 17, 12:17
Hatey McHateface on The Longest Road: “Whoops! “For all their theoretical insights, neither postcolonial theory nor decolonial studies systematically demonstrate through sustained empirical investigation the means…” Feb 17, 12:07
Hatey McHateface on The Longest Road: “You choose to ignore the complications, Alf. Colonisation is like a set of those nested Orc dolls, with the additional…” Feb 17, 12:03
Northcode on The Longest Road: “I think there might be more to this story than just someone blowing their trumpet over their ‘funding’ of another’s…” Feb 17, 11:55
sam on The Longest Road: “Northcode, Alf, others. This is worth reading, I think. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/social-science-history/article/reverberations-of-empire-how-the-colonial-past-shapes-the-present/178FA24536F578B3EFE2434DFDB87846” Feb 17, 11:55
Hatey McHateface on The Longest Road: “Yum. Scotch on the rocks. But surely a bit too early in the day.” Feb 17, 11:40
100%Yes on The Longest Road: “No I don’t, anyone who supports the Labour party and I’ll remind you no other party has caused to much…” Feb 17, 11:35
Debatable Lands on The Longest Road: “A man does something decent out of his own pocket. For Scotland. In fact, doing something virtually every contributor to…” Feb 17, 10:53
100%Yes on The Longest Road: “Just donated to Mark Hirst legal fight, the link is below. https://civillibertyscotland.com/news/victory-is-close-but-fresh-appeal-needed https://civillibertyscotland.com/” Feb 17, 10:52
Northcode on The Longest Road: “The real ‘war’ facing the Scots isn’t material… it’s spiritual, psychological if preferred, and the field of battle is in…” Feb 17, 10:50
Alf Baird on The Longest Road: “Colonialism is not that complicated, Hatey. There are only two main protagonists in colonial theory – the colonizer and the…” Feb 17, 10:36
TURABDIN on The Longest Road: “The great matter is not AI itself but those with the funds to control and influence the technology. Sofar it…” Feb 17, 10:05
TURABDIN on The Longest Road: “THE CHALLENGE….a proactive «army»of liberation or another passive «party» of liberation?” Feb 17, 09:32
Northcode on The Longest Road: “Aye, Alf. I don’t believe Mr McAlpine has fully grasped the true nature of Scotland’s predicament, or understands the underlying…” Feb 17, 09:13
Hatey McHateface on The Longest Road: “An interesting article on what the author calls the “Fourth Industrial Revolution” – the wipe out of office based jobs…” Feb 17, 08:31
David Ferguson on The Longest Road: “I’ll do my best not try your patience Rev, but I’ll be posting this regularly on your threads up to…” Feb 17, 05:02
James Barr Gardner on The Longest Road: “Call me cynical, but remember to beware of Greeks bearing gifts………..” Feb 17, 03:24
Young Lochinvar on The Longest Road: “Amen to that! May they have restless sleeps..” Feb 17, 00:16
Young Lochinvar on The Longest Road: “Best review, well said! The interviewer is patronising à la MSM.. At least though he didn’t claim (on this interview)…” Feb 17, 00:08
GM on The Longest Road: “It is not as if we don’t have recent experience of being conned. This would be a cracker. The finishing…” Feb 17, 00:01
Hatey McHateface on The Longest Road: “Thanks, Alf. Took you a bit longer than I anticipated, but no harm done. I have a personal antipathy to…” Feb 16, 22:54