We noticed a recurring theme in our latest Panelbase poll. In recent years Scottish politics has of course been defined mainly by the constitution, with all three major UK parties united in opposition to the SNP more or less reflexively. But if you strip out questions about the constitution, voters have largely reverted to the previous norm of a broadly centre-left consensus against the Conservatives.
For years now Lib Dem voters have shown up in polling as essentially Tories Lite, not because individual people’s opinions had changed but because most of the party’s traditional left-leaning voter base had abandoned it in disgust after the 2010 coalition which saw Lib Dem support plunge from 23% to 8% in a single Parliamentary term.
But now – although Lib Dem support has barely increased – things are changing.
Yesterday we reported on the Sunday Herald’s bizarre and blatant reversal of the plain facts about OBFA prosecutions in its front-page lead. But it wasn’t the only paper pulling that trick this weekend.
The Sunday Times ran a major piece on results from a poll it conducted at the same time as our most recent one, spinning the outcome as voters rejecting the SNP’s plan to boost the Scottish economy via more immigration.
But as so many stories in the press do, the article simply disintegrated before readers’ eyes almost immediately after the headline.
In our latest Panelbase poll, we asked the same independence question we asked in the last one, and got much the same answer. (Technically the indy vote went up by about a sixth of one percent, but that’s statistically meaningless.)
That’s a bit disappointing after the events of recent weeks, but also not very surprising – after all, the way the question is framed pretty much guarantees at least 38% of the population will choose the second option straight off the bat.
Much more interesting is the question we asked next.
As alert readers will know, we’ve heard little from the Unionist parties in Scotland over the last couple of years but “SCOTLAND SAID NO!”, “SCOTLAND DOESN’T WANT ANOTHER REFERENDUM!” and “WHAT PART OF NO DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND?”
That clutch of blunt, angry slogans was (and remains) pretty much the entire Scottish Conservatives manifesto, for example, and it rests on the claim – based on some extremely misleading selective reading of opinion polls – that the nation is implacably opposed to a second vote. The reality, as we know, is somewhat more balanced. But it’s never been quite THIS balanced before.
This year’s Scottish Social Attitudes Survey has found, yet again, that Scottish people trust their government in Holyrood vastly more than they trust the one in Westminster. The figures transcend party loyalties, with far more people saying they trust the Scottish Government than vote for the SNP.
Trust in both governments was down by five points, which meant the Scottish Government had lost 7.6% of its trust (66 down to 61) while the UK government had lost 20% of its trust (25 down to 20).
Now let’s see how two newspapers owned by the same company reported the news.
Let there be no mistake about what just happened. Last night, Scottish devolution – an institution 111 years in the promising, just 19 years a reality – died. Iain Macwhirter summed it up concisely and accurately.
It’s probably fair to say that the voters of Scotland have been feeling a little put-upon lately. In the last decade they’ve been sent to polling stations on no fewer than 12 occasions (Holyrood elections in 2011 and 2016, UK elections in 2010, 2015 and 2017, council elections in 2012 and 2017, European elections in 2009 and 2014, and finally referendums on AV, independence and the EU).
And they’ve been subjected to endless weeks, months or even years of campaigning and haranguing each time. One woman – who only had to endure nine of those 12 – had famously had enough of it.
Yet Scots face possibly three more in the next 12 months or so, if various factions get their way, taking the total to 15 major votes in a decade. And if we want to secure the desired outcome in any of them, we’re going to have to ease the load on folk a bit.
Some new data from the long-running Scottish Social Attitudes Survey was released tonight, and it makes for fascinating reading.
The headline stat is that for only the second year in the 18 years the study has been running, independence is the most popular option for the governance of Scotland:
This doesn’t, however, mean that it’s the majority view, because while independence is backed by 45% the “No” option is split into two – support for devolution (41%) and those ultra-Yoons who want Holyrood abolished (8%).
Now, considering that as recently as 2012 those figures were independence on 23%, devolution 61% and no Parliament 13%, that’s still a remarkable shift in Scottish public opinion in a very short space of time – support for indy has DOUBLED in five years while devolution has dropped by a third.
And indeed, when the survey asked a straight Yes/No question the results came out even closer, at 48% Yes to 52% No – a 3% swing to Yes from the 2016 figures.
We must admit, folks, that our initial reaction to this Scotsman headline from a couple of days ago was simply a weary sigh of “Oh FFS, here we go again”.
Blaming the Scottish Government for a private company’s decision to close down its plant and make hundreds of Scottish workers redundant is just the sort of ludicrous negative spinning we’ve come to expect from the country’s press over the past seven years, so this latest example just seemed like nothing more than par for the course.
But there turned out to be a little more to it than that.
Hatey McHateface on Echoes of history: ““entitled, within reason to post their opinions” Generous, willie, no stereotypical grippy Scot are you. But then it’s not your…” Feb 9, 00:12
Hatey McHateface on Echoes of history: ““She was a week individual” About 20 years ago, I worked with a minute individual. She eventually moved on -…” Feb 9, 00:02
Andrea on Echoes of history: “OT on the top part of that front page. Honest question, are we been governed by a cabal of lesbians?…” Feb 8, 22:57
Young Lochinvar on A Stitch In Timing: “@ H McH ? So you’re projecting then; and a proud-boy projectionist at that! Oi vey y’all! Jeez, it’s difficult…” Feb 8, 22:10
Young Lochinvar on A Stitch In Timing: “Cool yer jets Cynicus, we are just discussing history..” Feb 8, 22:01
Rob on Echoes of history: “I still don’t think the may elections are about indy., or much else that folk are twittering on about. Most…” Feb 8, 21:31
willie on Echoes of history: “Understand your sentiments 100% yes. Many will feel the same. However, it does no good, at least in my mind,…” Feb 8, 21:28
Iain More on Echoes of history: “And what happens if the English NAZI Reform Party only stands in the Regional Lists. The question that the complacent…” Feb 8, 21:25
willie on Echoes of history: “People are entitled, within reason to post their opinions. But one has to say that there are some utterly shallow…” Feb 8, 21:18
Lorna Campbell on Echoes of history: “Angus Robertson is unlikely to lose his seat, not because Lorna Slater is any less under the control of the…” Feb 8, 21:17
100%Yes on Echoes of history: “The norge bloke. I believe he’s called Mouat was impressed with the amount of British flags where in the audience.…” Feb 8, 21:01
100%Yes on Echoes of history: “She was a week individual who should have stood up to Sturgeon instead she allowed Sturgeon to run her department,…” Feb 8, 20:56
100%Yes on Echoes of history: “Now I’ll get on to Freeman, this woman was never an Indy supporter, she run to which ever party was…” Feb 8, 20:50
100%Yes on Echoes of history: “I’d rather Lorna Slater got the Seat than Angus Robertson, that’s how much I despise the SNP, its gone past…” Feb 8, 20:38
Marie on Echoes of history: “Better late than never doll. You happy with tyranny then? Oh dearie me.” Feb 8, 20:36
agentx on Echoes of history: “Willie says: “Time we woke up and took back control.” ——————————————- Why have you been asleep and is tomorrow ok?” Feb 8, 20:03
Willie on Echoes of history: “The noose tightens on Starmer and his rotten and corrupt Labour party. McSweeney’s departure is but a king Canute maneuver…” Feb 8, 19:37
Hatey McHateface on A Stitch In Timing: “@Andy Ellis On your list of those whose attachment to Indy holes the cause below the water line, you omitted…” Feb 8, 19:00
Hatey McHateface on Echoes of history: “Tell you what, Cynicus, lead by example. Explain to us the implications to you and every other Sovereign Scot of…” Feb 8, 18:34
agentx on Echoes of history: “Alternatively just relax and watch the Scottish mixed doubles colonised curling team enjoy their success (so far) at the Winter…” Feb 8, 18:31
Cynicus on Echoes of history: “What a shame Rev. that you posted this before the really big political story broke : that of the resignation…” Feb 8, 17:48
Vestas on Echoes of history: “What kind of window-licker is going to vote for that cunt?” Feb 8, 17:43
Cynicus on A Stitch In Timing: “The prime minister has resigned! No, not Starmer, but the real prime minister, Morgan McSweeney, protegé of Mandelson whose Washington…” Feb 8, 17:37
factchecker on A Stitch In Timing: “Yes, James, it is. And as I made clear previously, my reference to “Your rugby league” refers to a league…” Feb 8, 17:19
Andy Ellis on A Stitch In Timing: “Sadly for you Alf, very few of your countrymen, whether Scots speakers or not, actually buy your “Scotland as colony”…” Feb 8, 16:52
Hatey McHateface on A Stitch In Timing: “Ah C’moan noo, Lorna. One of them’s got ADHD and one of them’s (could be the same one) got a…” Feb 8, 16:31
Hatey McHateface on A Stitch In Timing: “For those Scots pondering Northy’s undoubtedly unsolicited plug for Professor Baird’s book, it must be pointed out that Northy claims…” Feb 8, 16:18
Hatey McHateface on A Stitch In Timing: “@YL Thanks for the complement. The reality though, unpalatable as it may be, is that sometimes what looks to the…” Feb 8, 16:10
Hatey McHateface on A Stitch In Timing: “The problem with that, TURABDIN, is that we’ll find the sea hoaching with fowk swimming the other way. Just as…” Feb 8, 16:00