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The Bloody Wizards

Posted on August 19, 2018 by

We couldn’t help noticing one particular Rory Bremner tweet last night.

And we thought, “Well, WE know someone who predicted those things.”

Here they are, for example, predicting Brexit way back in January 2013:

And this was them doing it again in September 2014:

How about Trump? Yep, they called that too, starting in 2015:

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We’re not sure which other surprising political event Bremner meant by the “etc” part of his tweet, but perhaps he was talking about getting years of monstrous Tory austerity governments after everyone including him expected Labour to win in 2015.

Well, not quite EVERYONE:

August 2012:

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September 2012:

April 2013:

July 2013:

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December 2013:

January 2014:

February 2014:

March 2014:

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April 2014:

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May 2014:

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September 2014:

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January 2015:

Or how about the 2017 election, where we warned that Kezia Dugdale’s “anyone but the SNP” tactical voting pleas could result in the Tories picking up enough seats in Scotland to keep Labour out of power and return Theresa May to Downing Street – precisely the thing that DID happen?

To be honest, we’re counting all that as enough justification to add “”You’re a bloody WIZARD” – Rory Bremner” to our bio page.

Of course, there’s no shortage of UK and Scottish political pundits Rory could follow if he wanted to hear predictions that were consistently and hilariously wrong.

But if he wants to know what’s actually going to happen, maybe it’s time that he started believing just a little bit in magic.

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    1. Merkin Scot says:

      Gaun yersel’ Big Man.
      My goodness, a few rightly forgotten names from the recent past in amongst that lot.
      My printouts for non computer friends will spark a lot of mirth.

    2. Macart says:

      Neatly done and ooft! 🙂

    3. SandyW says:

      You’re a wizard. JKR will feature you as a villiain in her next book.

    4. David Mills says:

      JK was right, but unlike her fantasy world, the result was much more like the reality for spouses on the edge of leaving that give it one more try and thats even more insults threats and beating sat the hand of they “partner”

      Next time we kick their ass to the curb and hire the best divorce lawyers.

    5. call me dave says:

      Most impressive list Rev. 🙂

      What a shower of predictors or similar word!

    6. Croompenstein says:

      Stu can you get me next weeks lottery numbers.. 😀

    7. Conan the Librarian says:

      Stuart “Gandalf” Campbell.

    8. pro-loco says:

      The trouble is – nobody likes a smartarse!

      Seriously though – those bookies should be taking you seriously. It’s a pity that none of those celebs on that remain platform will be thanking you for keeping them right – they won’t be apologising either.

      If you could come up with a way of getting a) labour types
      b) libdem types
      to realise that independence is the best way of their obtaining any number of their declared aims – then you would be a ” bloody wizard” .

    9. Vestas says:

      I won a $50 bet (reminds me I need to collect) with an ex-USA forces guy (he’s now an Aussie citizen) I played Eve with.

      Bet was that if Hilary got selected then the only way she’d ever get elected is if the Republicans put up someone stupider than Sarah Palin.

      They came close and if anyone thinks Trump is scary then you better hope he lasts his term is all I can say! There’s some seriously deranged religious lunatics waiting in the wings.

      Hilary Clinton is like Margaret Thatcher – or Marmite 😉 – love it or loathe it/them.

      So that was a stone cold bet once she got through primaries.

    10. ALANM says:

      Rory should stick to what he does best and leave real politics to those like Stu who know what they’re talking about.

      btw has anybody ever published a study into why so many ex-pats become ardent unionists the minute they start getting paid by the BBC or Channel 4? Is it a condition of their contracts?

    11. Greg says:

      I miss* John McTernan and his predictions.

      *not really

    12. mogabee says:

      Obviously, some of us have been following the proper wizard for the last few years!

      And for your next spell?… 😀 😀 😀

    13. Dr Jim says:

      Wizards over Scotland?

    14. robert alexander harrison says:

      Only thing you got wrong was English would never make Millaband pm they was untill Millaband himself raised the white flag and said and I quote I’d rather lose the election than work with the SNP rigot after Nicolas said to him a few weeks earlier don’t tell me you’d rather see David Cameron back in downing street than work with the SNP.

    15. George Gannon says:

      Well Rev, words fail me, how do you beat that. Thanks

    16. haudonthenoo says:

      JK and Mone. Am I the only one to get them mixed up ?

    17. Indy Herman says:

      Wizards Over Scotland has a nice ring to it…

    18. Clapper57 says:

      mic drop…BOOM

      Oh my God they just walk into it….time and time again, do they not.

      See they try to be too clever without having the knowledge …then oops ….another one bites the dust Rev and you live to fight another day……next………twitter the tool that exposes the fool….

      Rory there evading the point being made while giving the IMPRESSION of how naive he is in respect to the ‘PEOPLE’ being given a chance to ‘VOTE’ and not VOTING for the wrong thing…..yet somehow he STILL endorses the ‘PEOPLE’S VOTE’ as THE solution to stopping Brexit….Nostradamus would be so disappointed in him…………as for Wizards correct me if I’m wrong but thought they were the ones who in fantasy had magical powers to cast spells as opposed to being known for their clairvoyant skills…. perhaps he should have consulted JKR she could have put him straight on that…….after all they are on same side together with their pal Gordon Broon…..who even I could predict will , as sure as shite, have endless meaningless interventions of SNPBAD..INDYBAD…CORBYNBAD.

      By the by after reading the above CORRECT predictions as made by WOS Stuart Campbell would be hard to challenge the fact that at least HE can predict the future…so I raise my hat to Wizard aka clairvoyant Campbell….as should Rory who MUST be IMPRESSED by how accurate Mr C is…..Lol

    19. TJenny says:

      And stil yoons wonder why we trust and respect you. Our very own Wizard Of Scotland. 🙂

    20. cearc says:

      Aaah, the McTernon bet. Happy memories!

    21. ScottishPsyche says:

      The Yoon press will be eagerly awaiting Rowling’s EURef2 intervention and donation.

      I saw that Femi dude fawning all over Rowling yesterday, the one that Tanja the weeping academic tweeted about. The Better Together world is a small world indeed.

    22. Dan Huil says:

      Bremner is funniest when he tries, and fails, to understand Scotland’s politics.

    23. Tinto Chiel says:

      Dear Mr Wizard/Campbell,

      Please tell me Scotland will be independent by 2020.

      😛

    24. Capella says:

      So the Wizard of Bath strikes again. A palpable hit.

    25. Martin McKinnon says:

      And next week’s winning lottery numbers will be?

    26. Ian Mackay says:

      To be honest, I’m not that surprised.

      Anyone could do this.

      Just find out what John McTernan thinks will happen… and then just know the opposite will be true. 😀

      I’m just surprised Rory Bremner hasn’t figured this out yet. He’s tangling himself in knots maintaining a cognitive dissonance over the Union.

      I’d think if Rory Bremner bothered to look he’d find that at least 45% of the Scottish population realised that the UK was sliding into an oblivion in 2014; now reinforced by the 62% Remain vote in 2016; and the current much higher Remain polling now.

      He doesn’t want to face it – but the UK as we now it is ‘dead as a parrot’. If only there was some comedy in that, Rory?

    27. HYUFD says:

      Ironically the SNP won 50% of the vote and 56 seats at the 2015 general election before the Brexit vote but only 37% of the vote and 35 seats at the 2017 general election after the Brexit vote

    28. Highland Wifie says:

      No wonder they discredit you and discourage the good people of Scotland from listening to you.
      You might have to change your name to Wands over Scotland. 🙂

    29. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Did Gerry Hassan ever square up?

    30. georgie nicholson says:

      Thank you Stuart. Did any of the so called ‘Celebs’ apologise for their lies in 2014? All the ‘love-bombs’ they flooded us with. Stay with us Scotland we love you. Please don’t leave us. Sickening. Con artists the lot of them. Stay in England and convert down there. We’ve already voted to stay in the EU and were ignored.

    31. remo says:

      Did Rory not see President Trump on “The Simpsons” in about 2000?

    32. Of course Bremenr hasn’t a clue about any of this.
      Hepops up with his I’m a TV Star hat on for five minutes, then fucks off again.
      I sincerely hope he realises what idiots he and his wee bunch of privileged Brit Exceptionalists made of themselves yesterday.
      To demonstrate such ignorance of politics Up Here takes a special kind of gall.
      We have had it with your Union.
      All hell is about to break loose, regardless.
      We shall ‘back’ no second EU vote.
      England and Wales voted to Leave, we didn’t.
      Any glass beads and hand mirrors you want to trade for Aberdeen Angus beef and Ayrshire tomatoes?
      England and Wales are well and truly fecked.

    33. dakk says:

      You had better watch your back Stuart.

      Wouldn’t be surprised if olde England appoints another Witchfinder General the way they are going.

      Henry Vlll laws and all that.

      Rory and co would no doubt lap that up too.

      Anything but independent Scotland.

    34. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “Did Gerry Hassan ever square up?”

      Nope.

    35. Proud Cybernat says:

      The Wizard of WOS.

    36. jfngw says:

      Now your just showing off.

      I was 64 last month, any chance of predicting independence in my lifetime, or am I going to vacate this place disappointed.

    37. Valerie says:

      @ pro-loco 6.15

      I know you are teasing, but I don’t see Rev as a smartarse, but as someone steeped in his subject, and reading the runes correctly.

      Of course, we know the yoonstream hate that ability, relying as they do on everyone to stand to attention for GSTQ for their best argument.

      The more I think about this nonsense, the more annoyed I’m getting. How is it that Cameron giving in to the lunatics in his party, then doing a runner, didn’t sound a warning klaxon with these People Voters???

      Why have they waited until now? Did they think the Tories would have a good Brexit, do a smashing job with the EU? Did they think Labour would be a good Opposition?

      They don’t seem to realise this is what we have watched, and STILL told them this is a mess, Labour are shit, we know how shit.

      It’s sad if they have just woken up, but that’s their problem. Why don’t they get the criminals brought to book?

      Like everyone else, they need to come to terms with Brexit, and plan accordingly, because that’s what we want to do.

    38. galamcennalath says:

      All those ‘we love you Scotland, please stay’ celebrity meddling assholes from 2014 …. have any of them ever come back and admitted their advice was all wrong?

      You see the response form Bremner … ‘it was’t predictable’. In a general sense it was, because an Indy Scotland would be making all its own decisions and living with the consequences. However, a Scotland which is captive in the UK system can’t make all those decisions and has to live with the consequences of what England decides.

      This situation was the inevitable outcome of a NO vote, England decides, we have to accept.

      It doesn’t matter whether it turned out to be a Tory government, Brexit, war, peace, famine, pestilence… England makes all the big decisions and responses for Scotland. And with horrendous regularity, they aren’t what Scotland needs or wants! This was 100% predictable.

    39. Algernon Pondlife says:

      The number of politicians and pundits who cannot rise above predicting what they wish for is staggering. Anyone can get it wrong but these people are delusional. They don’t even try.

    40. galamcennalath says:

      Some people are just better at wizarding that others. Some just fall flat on their faces. JK Rowling June 2014 ….

      “Whatever the outcome of the referendum on 18th September, it will be a historic moment for Scotland. I just hope with all my heart that we never have cause to look back and feel that we made a historically bad mistake.”

      Voting NO was a “historically bad mistake” of monumental proportions! Unfolding events make that crystal clear! So alas, we do have cause to look back and feel that.

    41. Truth says:

      Having lived and worked in England in the recent past, I too fully believed they would vote to leave.

      But then, I didn’t spend my time in a parochial London cocoon. I actually lived amongst people and spoke with them, not at them.

      And that is symptomatic of all that is wrong in the UK. The journos and talking heads do not mix with the people. They are simply out of touch. They do not represent the vast majority of people. I also believe it is this detachment that caused desperate people to “take back control”, whereas we on Scotland have another means of taking back control. I hope we don’t spurn the chance again.

    42. HandandShrimp says:

      John and Duncan are some sort of modern incarnation of the Oracle of Delphi…where the wiring got accidentally reversed.

    43. K1 says:

      Did you know we were gonna lose in 2014?

    44. Scottish Steve says:

      I think these unionists need to clean their crystal balls. They don’t seem to be working properly.

    45. Robert Louis says:

      QUOTE “..and I have several fine hats”.

      Well, I think we’d all like to see them. 🙂

      Judging by the hysteria today, it seems the folks in England who want Scottish support regarding brexit, really cannot hide their contempt for Scots. Those advocating a ‘meaningful vote’ on brexit, very quickly let their mask slip. Nothing but seething contempt for Scotland and Scots. How dare we seek independence. ‘Shut up Scotland, and do as we (England) says’.

      Let’s get Scottish independence. Then England can go do whatever it wants. Good luck to the lot of them, when shops in England are like pre-unification communist East Germany, with no food – and that which there is, is of very poor quality.

      The problem, is that people in England are all walking about with their heads in the sand, collectively muttering ‘well, that kind of thing can’t happen here’. Somewhat unsurprisingly, that’s what people in other countries where their economy collapsed thought too.

      Getting really, really tired of this patronising ‘we know better’ attitude from people down in England.

    46. HandandShrimp says:

      I would say that I am finding the “never mind the shite we spoke in 2014, if don’t back us you are bastards” attitude of some of the people associated with the People’s Vote pompous and unappealing.

      As Yoda might very well say “Off they must fuck.”

    47. schrodingers cat says:

      the euref2 is a still born idea.

      if mogg PM announces a “peoples vote” ge in the next 2 months then the idea of a referendum dies.

      people will simply say that the remainers are getting a vote, so whats the problem?

      problem for the remainers will be who to vote for, even if they have over 50% support of population in england, neither tories or labour support it so they wont have anyone to vote for.

      peoples vote have no mandate for euref2 or a political party that even represents their interests.

      it is a dead parrot and as soon as the ge is announce they will understand why we have been complaining about the democratic deficite in scotland for decades.

    48. schrodingers cat says:

      and before anyone points to the libdems, the fptp system at westminster is such that if these #peoplesvote folk vote in enough numbers for the libdems, then the tories will win by a landslide. ensuring a no deal brexit outcome.

    49. Del says:

      A second brexit referendum is the equivalent of polishing a turd. It’s entirely possible England and Wales will be happy to do so, or eat whatever shit is a necessary part of them leaving Europe. Meantime the 62% of Scotland who want to stay have increased in number. We shouldn’t get trixxed into legitimising what Rees Mogg and pals want. Steer well clear.

    50. jfngw says:

      After all the marginalisation of Scotland since 2014, plus the lack of any interest by the luvvies, in fact some seem to just be attacking indy supporters, I am not interested one iota in a ‘peoples vote’. My energies are purely focused on independence, and Scotland deciding its own relationship with the EU, not having another countries government telling us what we are allowed to do.

      So in reply to their open letter, that I believe was in the Guardian, thanks but no thanks, now bugger off.

    51. David Briggs says:

      Okay you’re a bloody WIZARD.

      Edgar Cayce has nothing on you.

    52. Johnny says:

      Schrodingers:

      On the Lib Dems, I think you are spot on. I remember before the last GE discussing where they could potentially take seats back and concluding that their gains only ever going to be limited because there were not enough three-way marginals in England for them to take seats off the Tories and a Labour party being ambiguous on Brexit so as they wouldn’t seep votes to the Lib Dems among Remainers and UKIP/the Tories among Brexiters.

      The chances are that the Lib Dems’ high water mark in terms of seats is behind them for all time, unless the two main parties are blamed for a bad Brexit and even then some voters will still just cling to what they know….

    53. Ian Brotherhood says:

      For those who don’t often look at The Twitter, the following was by @LatelyJohnny on July 18th this year:

      1. Every nation in the EU is a member of the EU.
      2. No nation in the EU was coerced to join.
      3. Every nation in the EU is free to leave.

      Now simply replace ‘EU’ with ‘UK’ and all of the above statements cease to be true…

      Perhaps we should ask Rory Bremner to do an impersonation of Bart Simpson and copy that out 100 times on a big blackboard?

      🙂

    54. Fred says:

      Lest we forget! Ming Campbell’s including two Georgian bedside cabinets for his town-house in his parliamentary expenses. He should have been jailed never mind the effrontery of showing his phyzog again in public!

    55. Shug says:

      Good enough for me rev. I am headded to bookies tomorrow
      Can you give me a date for indyref2, the result and will trump run again
      Ta

    56. schrodingers cat says:

      unless the two main parties are blamed for a bad Brexit and even then some voters will still just cling to what they know….

      ——————–
      i think treezas replacement will be a no deal brexiteer. if the new pm calls a ge in oct standing on that ticket…… the tories would have a very good chance of winning.

      my point was that calling a ge in oct would scupper calls for the libdems euref2 simply by pointing out that the people were getting a vote on the final deal.

      the real question is what would corbyn and labour stand for? staying in the sm/cu? britain out of the sm/cu but NI stays in? stopping or delaying brexit?

      none of these options (the only ones on the eu negotiating table) are compatable with labour or corbyns stance so far so what will corbyn do?

      answers on a post card

      it isnt beyond possibility that labour will support the no deal option.

      eitherway, remainers calling for euref2 will be side lined and possibly left with no one to vote for, no support from any major party for their position.

    57. Reluctant Nationalist says:

      K1: “Did you know we were gonna lose in 2014?”

      Dayum! Lol

    58. Glamaig says:

      Fred says:
      19 August, 2018 at 9:16 pm

      ‘Lest we forget! Ming Campbell’s including two Georgian bedside cabinets for his town-house in his parliamentary expenses’

      Also I vividly remember him on Radio Shortbread, at the time of the Carmichael court case, angrily asserting it was quite ok for politicians to lie to the public.

    59. Artyhetty says:

      Excellent. Love some of the comments, much funnier than that Bremner guy could ever come up with!

      Have a nice night all, who knows what yoon world will bring tomorrow, I am having an op, if it goes well I shall be back next couple days. Keep cool guys.

    60. McDuff says:

      o/t
      I often wonder about the word independence and its meaning in our relation to the UK. We joined the Union voluntarily as a recognised legitimate country so what we actually want is to revert back to that original state. So in that sense its kind of demeaning for us to be asking to be “independent“ when what we actually want is to leave a union/partnership and revert back to what we were.
      It is not as if we originally were a region and now want to become a new country.
      My apologies if this has been mentioned before.

    61. Juan says:

      The Wizard of WoS. Have you got a pokey hat wi stars n that, among your collection of very fine hats?

      To Rory and all the other BRITNAT colonialists “Is Scotland a country? Shouldn’t EVERY country be self governing? Don’t Scots deserve democracy? Why are you denying Scots democracy?

    62. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @ArtyHetty (9.42) –

      Good luck with the op, hope it’s nothing too serious or sore!

      Haste ye back.

      😉

    63. galamcennalath says:

      Interesting article …

      “Labour ‘finished’ if it backs Brexit in a snap election, says Adonis

      Poll suggests party would fare much better by opposing UK’s departure from EU”

      “… the party is “finished” if it contests another election promising to back Brexit …”

      I agree with that. If there was an election, Labour’s fortunes are tied to its stance on Brexit.

      Should Labour actually switch to an anti Brexit position, the Tories would then do everything they could to avoid a general election.

      http://archive.li/wztMo

    64. Cmonindy says:

      Wonderful to hear that you have been appointed chief strategist for YES. Kinda sad that means Mr Hothershall has to advise Mr Mundell.

    65. Fillofficer says:

      Lizard shurely

    66. Albaman says:

      As I stated in earlier posting, R.Bremner will be very vocal when our next independent referendum comes,he will use the theatre stage to urge the audience to vote against Scottish independence,
      Stew has done exactly what is required, immediately counter his, or any other of the so called “big hitters” with their “independence warnings”.

    67. Don Johnstone says:

      Actually you might look good with the hat and long stick in one of the films.
      Not that she would ever let you near it as you are to good at pointing out all the rubbish they dump on us and like real magic tear it all to pieces.
      She prefers her magic guys to do what she says.

    68. Chick McGregor says:

      So do you have any Z shaped scars anywhere Stu? If not, I’m sure JKR would oblige. 😉

    69. Benhope says:

      Jerry Hassan, lecturer and political commentator.A man who refused to pay out on a publicly declared bet.

      Ming Campbell,unionist first and always.

      What about adding fence-sitter Mcleish and we could have a holy trinity of proud scot buts on this thread.

    70. Jason Smoothpiece says:

      Artyhetty

      Good luck with the operation hope all goes well

    71. Kevin says:

      The Wizard wi’ Bawz.

      “Did Gerry Hassan ever square up?”

      Nope.”

      I’m glad you told us Hassan never coughed-up, it means I can now officially disrespect the cheap little bastard when previously I wasn’t sure.

      That’s the measure of that dishonourable little cheapo. Disgraceful.

    72. Patrick Roden says:

      The tone of this article is pretty light- hearted, but make no mistake, to predict future political events that contradicts every other ‘experts’ prediction, and get it right time and time again, is nothing short of incredible.

      (just to add, because I know all the rabid Unionists read wings )

      Rev, you truly are a prophet!

      All wingers must worship Rev, and throw our money at him! 🙂

    73. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Kevin –

      Re Hassan.

      Disgraceful indeed – this finally scotches any suggestion that he didn’t welsh on the debt.

      😉

    74. Marie Clark says:

      Artyhetty @ 9.42 Good luck with the op. Hope all goes well and we see you back soon. Take it easy.

    75. TJenny says:

      Patrick Roden – ‘All wingers must worship Rev, and throw our money at him!’ We do and we will, ’cause he’s worth it. 😉

    76. Clootie says:

      A few hundred turn up in Edinburgh to support Ming, Bremner etc and it is on the BBC main news
      16k march in Dundee and a brief message is forced from them.

      Ming and Rory are idiots with an incredible ability to ignore the hypocrisy of their position.

    77. jfngw says:

      Looks like it’s not really a peoples vote, it is a clique of people that seem to demand you agree with them. The ‘peoples vote’ champions seem to be blocking everyone on twitter that doesn’t fall into line. I would imagine it is mostly people from Scotland they have blocked today. It’s a bit like Westminster this peoples vote, silenced when not doing as requested, not really persuading me there then.

      i can’t really get on board with someone who tells me to love the UK, I don’t actually love any country. I want independence because I want my government to reflect the electorate in Scotland. In fact I find the idea of loving a country a bit creepy.

      Patriotism, the last refuge of a scoundrel I believe is what was said, I suspect he was referring to politician’s. You know the type, bang on about their country but move their assets abroad or apply for citizenship elsewhere after demanding your patriotic vote.

    78. Dr Jim says:

      Stupendous Stu the Wizard of WOS:
      We’re off to see the Wizard the wonderful Wisard of WOS it seems he is a wonderful Wiz if ever a Wiz there was

      It’ll be front page news now
      Dumbledore’ll have to get you on QT now as the Scottish soothsayer, who needs newspaper churnalists opinions anymore when we’ve got a direct line to the future

      Give us a prediction oh Wiz, the crowds will shout, I can see it all now the Rev pictured with a crystal ball on the front page of the National

    79. Robert Peffers says:

      @haudonthenoo says: 19 August, 2018 at 6:26 pm:

      ” … JK and Mone. Am I the only one to get them mixed up?”

      No there’s at least two others who get them mixed up with each other – JK Rowling & Mechelle Mone.

    80. Robert Peffers says:

      @TJenny says: 19 August, 2018 at 6:36 pm:

      ” … Our very own Wizard Of Scotland.”

      Or perhaps The Wizard of Oz Us. ?

    81. mike cassidy says:

      If this is an accurate reflection of how Democrats are thinking –

      can I ride the prediction wave and say there will be a second Trump term.

      https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/06/27/democrat-2020-field-poll/740370002/ (wouldn’t archive)

    82. Arbroath1320 says:

      I’m just gonna nick suggestions put forward by others earlier on and *ahem* modify them.

      Perhaps Stu could rename this AWESOME site to Wizard Wings over Scotland. 😉

      As for Bremner and his “frustrations” about what WE, the people of Scotland, actually know well he can just feck aff and whistle Dixie afore I accept anything he says as worthy of listening to regarding MY country’s independence!

    83. Robert Peffers says:

      @HYUFD says: 19 August, 2018 at 7:08 pm:
      ” … Ironically the SNP won 50% of the vote and 56 seats at the 2015 general election before the Brexit vote but only 37% of the vote and 35 seats at the 2017 general election after the Brexit vote.”

      Actually there isn’t anything strange about it. It is usual for any landslide vote to swing, at least partly, back at the next election. Just as it is usual for an electorate to vote our the sitting government having become fed-up with them by the time of the next election.

      There has been many experts expressing surprise that the SNP is still popular after holding power at Holyrood for so long.

      It took a wee while longer for them to establish their credentials as the party of choice at Westminster but after the last General Election they still held more seats than the rest of the Scottish parties put together and the other parties, and the SMSM, hailed it as a great victory for the Union.

      Aye!
      Richt!

    84. Legerwood says:

      Clootie says:
      19 August, 2018 at 11:37 pm
      “”A few hundred turn up in Edinburgh to support Ming, Bremner etc and it is on the BBC main news…””

      I wonder how many of the ‘few hundred’ were tourists who stopped to watch because they thought it was a Fringe/Festival performance?

    85. Robert Peffers says:

      @jfngw says: 19 August, 2018 at 7:47 pm:

      ” … I was 64 last month, any chance of predicting independence in my lifetime, or am I going to vacate this place disappointed.”

      Best make sure then, that when you pop yer clogs, you go to Heaven.

      Up there it’s full of passed away Scottish Nationalists who all told the truth and down in hell there is standing room only as it is overcrowded with lying unionists politicos and lying unionist former journalists.

    86. Dramfineday says:

      Wizard…well at least there’s no double z so you can’t be Rincewind, you might be Pondor Stibbons working your magic with Hex; otherwise you could be Mustrum Ridcully I suppose, number 1 OC. But, and there’s always a but, I think you are Lord Vetinari…. dark ruler etc.,and consequently claim my £5 reward.

      Please remit via your secretary, R Drumknott, to my usual account.

      Meantime, it’s time for my dried frog pill and a lie down.

    87. dakk says:

      The reality is the ‘british’ entity has been more than alright for all the Rory’s and the Rowlings on the make.

      Why would they care about half a million Iraqi dead,or Westminster paedos,or Scotland,or any of the shite that is britain.

      I have no doubt whatsoever they would be at the front cheering as Wizard of WoS Stu’s skin melted as he burned at the stake.

      A veritable Stu pot indeed.

      No doubt the britnat libertarians would afford their Wizard the concession of wearing one of his nice hats as he burned.

    88. Robert Peffers says:

      And at the end of all this it may have whizzed over the heads of yer average person that the actual sovereignty that Westminster claims it has over Scotland is not quite what they make it out to be.

      The big problem, and the main reason there has never been a United Kingdom written constitution is because of the actual legality of sovereignty – under English Law.

      Under English law the Queen of England is legally sovereign and as such only she is legally sovereign – not the Westminster Parliament and not Her Majesty’s subjects throughout the three country kingdom of England.

      Now, by convention only, since the Glorious Revolution, the English courts ruled that, under English law, sovereignty belonged to the Kingdom and not to the monarchy and thus the Monarchy of England cannot give away the sovereignty of the Kingdom but since 1688 they forced the monarch of England to legally delegate the Parliament of England to legally exercise the Royal sovereignty.

      Now here’s the thing – from that time onwards, (1688), when there is an election and the result is declared the Queen of England chooses who to summons to the royal presence and commands that person to form, “Her/His Majesty’s Government”. There is no written law that states the monarch of England has to choose the leader of the party that wins most seats.

      Note that in times of war or of national emergency Her Majesty calls someone, (supposedly of her/his majesty’s choosing), to form a War Cabinet from across the political parties. In other words there is a cross-party government.

      However, none of that is actually legal under Scots law and it says so in the Treaty of Union. What is more the so called Supreme Court recently acknowledged that the people of Scotland are indeed legally sovereign. That means Westminster has been acting illegally since 1 May 1707.

      Just what is the point of holding elections when the law of England, to this day, is that the Monarch of England is legally sovereign and only the monarch of England can legally choose Her/His Majesty’s Prime Minister. Legally that is the Prime <Minster's legal title – Her Majesty's Prime Minister.

    89. Ghillie says:

      Mr Bremner is a sadly misinformed individual who should mibee just stick to his day job pretending to be other people.

      I was certainly discussing the very real chance that England would pull Scotland out of the EU against our will following a no vote. But sadly the Polish man I knew back then was still convinced that his being able to stay working here was safe with that no vote.

      Mr Bremner is no wizard, that’s for sure. Numptie.

    90. Clapper57 says:

      O/T

      Had a look on Colin Dunn’s ( Indy supporter) twitter account where he had retweeted a video which showed a young Muslim guy blindfolded in street and in a shopping centre with the following message on a sign board :

      His sign said:

      “I am Muslim.
      Some people call me a Terrorist.
      Do You Trust Me?
      If yes — Hug Me!”

      The video showed a lot of adults and children doing just that…it was nice and exemplified the best in human nature…by both the person who did the sign and those who chose to hug him.

      Made me feel better especially in these trying times.

    91. Yesitis says:

      Brilliant stuff, Stu.
      You’d think the BritNats would be too embarrassed to try keep saving face. Unfortunately, they are shameless. Still, you get the feeling when the shit finally hits the fan a lot of some pretty famous and pretty petty people are going to get absolutely caked in it.

    92. stewart fae stoney says:

      I remember I wrote to the P and J in early 2014 warning people that we could end up being out of europe with a no vote and trump as president and Boris Johnston as PM, Vote yes and we could avoid all these nightmares, They didnt print my letter, this time but one prediction still to go. ( I stopped buying that paper in 2014)

    93. carjamtic says:

      Annoyingly these “political celebrity evangelists” still travel to Scotland and spout their opinions as gospel,yes this is very easy to do when one looks through an always-clean,rear- view mirror.

      Unfortunately for these “types” ,it’s the windscreen through which Scotland’s voters must peer to view the way forward and thanks to their efforts that glass was previously,invariably fogged.

      Through the excellent work of WoS and others,that windscreen is clearing by the day and it is now very clear that the road to an Independent Scotland is the only road to travel,that’s if we really want a better society,a society that is as prosperous as ours (to get enabled) to be allowed to best figure out how nobody gets left too far behind (as a starting point).

      It is as plain as the noses on their “celebrity” faces,that Independence is the best solution,however we do understand,the many voices they hear in their heads and the zombies mouth breathing on their windscreens,make it impossible for them to see the road ahead,ergo understand Scottish Politics.

      We wish them well on “their” journey but afore they go, can we recommend some political windscreen de-misting products available online,suggest that they stop looking back in anger,keep their eyes on the road and desist from blaming fictional wizards for their car crash/misfortunes,it was though,nice to see you,to see you,fukc off.

      #WingsOverScotland
      #WeeGingerDug

    94. starlaw says:

      Mr Bremner’s career has now sunk so low that he will take any opportunity to appear on television. He also takes part in low key comedy shows, good for up and coming comics, and a grazing patch for has beens.

    95. Shinty says:

      O/T
      a wee video of inspiration

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkHPYWKcMqs

    96. Nana says:

      Sorry for the Saturday thread. But this is important. The idea that the UK will fail to reach a deal with the EU but then suddenly sign lots of new agreements with the EU and other countries is utterly ridiculous. 1/
      https://twitter.com/DavidHenigUK/status/1030749554197647361

      MoJ seizes control of Birmingham prison from G4S
      http://archive.is/2k4Ls

      https://skwawkbox.org/2018/08/19/desperate-woman-sets-fire-to-herself-in-tory-run-barnet-council-office-msm-ignore/

      Brexit: no change
      http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86968

    97. Gerry says:

      The right thing to do here is simply point out to rUK remainers that the democratic way to achieve their goal is simply to vote in an election for a party proposing another referendum in their manifesto and give that party a mandate to hold one. Just like Scotland did with the SNP and indyref2.

      Meanwhile Scotland can leave the UK, remain in the EU and consider whether we want to veto rUK’s readmission or not.

    98. Wee bud says:

      Arlene Foster sorry I mean Hayley Miller on Radio Shiteland going full SNP bad mode because a part of missiles sold by the UK may have been made here.. Bairns not Bombs she crystal!!!! I don’t know why the Snp bother going on this stitch up.. Just tell them they are doing a Ruth and won’t be available for no reason what so ever..

    99. Hamish100 says:

      Bbc radio scotland. Outrageous behaviour by the bbc interviewer bombing by saudia Arabia whicj killed children it is reported. A piece of equipment which MAY have been in the bomb and MAY have been used is the Scottish government fault. She goaded. Interruptions a plenty she lost her temper.this wasnt robust interviewing it was an attempt at a stitch up which failed. Why no UK govt minister on ?

    100. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Wee bud –

      I switched on the radio and caught her mid-flow, wasn’t sure what was going on.

      Perhaps she thinks she’s being ‘doggedly persistent’ or somesuch but she just sounds unhinged. Ridiculous behaviour.

      ‘It’s journalism captain, but not as we know it…’

    101. starlaw says:

      CNN has reported that the missile was made in America and have posted a pic of the missiles name plate. BBC take a running jump.

    102. call me dave says:

      SNP very bad and given a dressing down on radio shortbread.

      FGS! What a tirade and I wont stop and let you get a word in edgewise so there. 🙁

      https://archive.is/F76UG

      PS:
      Followed by Tom Harris telling us about how to improve Scottish trains.

      “Decisions made by and for the Scottish people is the way”.

      Oh the irony! 🙂

    103. Wee bud says:

      Should have read ” cried “

    104. Nana says:

      The latest bbc smear against the SNP was covered last year

      ‘Public cash for arms firms’ claim rejected
      http://archive.is/kjRDg

      and this from 2012
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-17597889

      Ian Small: Evidence provides proper balance in arguments around BBC
      http://archive.is/REUYv

    105. a ninny mouse. says:

      Can we get some up to date predictions from you? I might actually have a flutter…

    106. GrahamB says:

      She must have even embarrassed the GMS production team as the story was 2nd up on the 8am bulletin but after her meltdown it was dropped completely at 8:30 and 9am!

    107. Ken500 says:

      @ Wings twitter

      Yemen bomb killed 40 children

      Mark 82

      Lockheed Martin. US company

      US military spending $611Billion. A third of world spending.

      US/UK illegal wars. Defence is reserved. Trident planted in Scotland.

    108. Tinto Chiel says:

      Mmmmmm: seems Hayley Miller may be trying too hard to please Donalda. No-one likes a sook, hen.

      Re BBC integrity, my eye was drawn to an article by Gavin Esler, one of those sent up to Embra at the weekend to lecture us strange northern types to Remain (beside the Steve Richards piece on Nana’s link just up the page).

      It’s breathtaking in so many ways but contains some beauties, e.g.:

      “I have always tried to live up to those three pillars of journalism” (referring to the accurate, fair and balanced Prime Directive at the BBC).

      And: “In 2016 as I travelled around our country I was appalled by the worst British political campaign I had ever witnessed. Remain was rightly ridiculed for inept scaremongering.”

      He must have been looking elsewhere in 2014, that’s for sure, when he fronted the No Borders campaign. Wonder where the money came for that, since it certainly wasn’t a grassroots campaign?

      Does anyone know if his wee cairnie still stands?

    109. Nana says:

      Warning, mind your BP. Morgan is a very ignorant woman.

      https://twitter.com/OnexOne76/status/1031289750261514240

      Former No voter says
      http://www.thenational.scot/news/15476265.Our_moment_has_arrived__Andrew_O_Hagan_on_why_Scotland_should_take_its_place_at_the_table_of_modern_nations/

      Corbyn coming to Scotland to ‘revitalise Scottish Labour’ lol
      http://archive.is/BbpUC

      Bank of England chief economist warns on AI jobs threat
      http://archive.is/3a1WC

    110. Capella says:

      I too heard the tail end of Haley Millar’s hysterical tirade against the SNP. Truly pathetic.

      I see from Stu’s twitter that only half of the 3 hour GMS programme is available on iPlayer. So now I’m wondering if that embarrassing episode has survived. Remembering how Penny Taylor’s anti SNP Health policy piece was not available afterwards.

      To be honest, I really don’t want to hear it. The radio was on in another room this morning and I guessed from the hysterical tone that it ws an anti SNP piece so tuned in. Once is once too often.

    111. call me dave says:

      Gillian Marles was the interviewer on GMS this morning say others who also heard it.

      They hold the SNP to high standards that must never waiver unlike their own grubby organisation. 🙂

      There will be another public scourging for the SNP on radio shortbread tomorrow rest assured

    112. Dr Jim says:

      More importantly why’s help me Rona Dougall turned up on BBC radio

    113. Tinto Chiel says:

      “Once is once too often.”

      Capella, when my Dear Old Dad got really exasperated (usually by me :razz:) he would say, “Too much is enough!”

      He was something of a filosipher.

      He supported Hamilton Academical FC.

    114. Robert Peffers says:

      @Hamish100 says: 20 August, 2018 at 8:54 am:

      ” … Bbc radio scotland. Outrageous behaviour by the bbc interviewer bombing by saudia Arabia whicj killed children it is reported. A piece of equipment which MAY have been in the bomb and MAY have been used is the Scottish government fault.”

      How utterly idiotic can these BBC Scotland numpties get? (Rhetorical Question)?

      So a component in a weapon is made by a company based in Scotland and that makes the use of that weapon the fault of the SNP?

      So, let’s do a comparison with different components and different weapons.

      A terrorist from a middle eastern company constructs a Molotov Cocktail and the component parts are a Coca Cola bottle filled with petrol refined by a German company and a wick made from a rag torn from a shirt made in India. The Terrorist throws the weapon at a USA school and kills dozens of USA Children and their teachers.

      Does that make Donald Trump responsible for the crime because the bottle used was made for the Coca Cola company of the USA?

      Not to mention the parts played by the German and the Indian government leaders.

      Could these BBC Scotland idiots get any more ridiculous?

      Oh! Don’t bother answering that – we probably all know the answer to that question – don’t we?

    115. Giving Goose says:

      It’s a useful exercise to regard what happens on BBC Scotland as a litmus test of what the British Nationalist Establishment are currently thinking.

      Think of this morning’s GMS rant as a taking of the pulse of BritNatdom.

      I didn’t listen to it and nor would I, because I recognise that BBC Scotland is just a propaganda conduit.

      I allow others to take the pain by listening/watching and then publishing their summary findings via social media.
      I trust their viewpoints.

      There is clearly a crisis within BritNatdom, caused by Brexit and it is making the Loyal Followers and BritNat cultists extremely jittery.

      The UK is being shown up as just another small Euro nation by the Brexit process and the cult followers are struggling to come to terms with that and the obvious fact that Brexit may actually cause their beloved BritNat mini empire to unravel rather quickly. Indeed it’s actually starting to look a bit frayed and we haven’t even reached B-Day in March.

      One of those frayed threads could be unpicked rather quickly and I believe that they, BBC Scotland, know that full well.

      Hence the hysterical outpourings this morning on the radio propaganda show. The BBC loyalists will grasp any opportunity to attack the SNP in order to divert attention away from the BritNat state and that BritNat state’s current difficulties.

      I am actually loving Brexit. It’s probably the most entertaining thing that has happened in decades. The trick is to just sit back and watch it happen. But there is a useful lesson that the SNP need to take from these little episodes like this morning, and that is not to get to involved with the BBC nor the rest of the BritNat media. Brexit is going to happen.

      BritNatdom is going to unravel and the Scottish public need to a clear field of vision to watch it happen.
      No distractions are necessary, so do not engage with the BBC, because they, the BBC are going to become increasingly desperate in the coming weeks and months for any little chance to rant about something else, so don’t give them the opportunity.

    116. winifred McCartney says:

      I too heard that interview and thought it was the rudest and worst interview ever of a Scottish Minister. The BBC are definitely upping the snp bad rhetoric – it serves to show how biased they are and how worried they are. I tweeted a complaint-given up filling in their forms which they ignore- was only listening for the weather and road report but was hopping mad. Why have they not got on someone from the Tory Govt to explain why the license was given to send these bombs to Yemen and why are the arms dealers who make trillions not being questioned but of course that would not be snp bad.

      While we are at it Corbyn in Scotland today after tweeting congrats to India on anniversary of Independence and also to Pakistan – anywhere but Scotland – just because politically they think they need Scotland to get into WM.

      How dare Bremer and co come to Scotland to ask for another EU Ref – we voted remain – get back to England and convert them – and let us remind them of their lies and deceit every time they open their mouths.

    117. Phil says:

      Peffers : 20 August, 2018 at 1:12 am

      I do hope you are ready and willing to keep re-printing that as it is hard for an old stager’s brain to remember it all and keep it straight.

    118. Morgatron says:

      Re GMS this morning. It was truly awful. The hypocrisy if this is just breathtaking. Think it was Gillian Marles and she deserves to be sacked. That wasnt an interview , it was her point of view , it was probably the worst bit of journalism Ive ever heard. It was embarrassing. I am totaly sickened by these bastards

    119. admiral says:

      I’ve got absolutely zero respect for these metropolitan Labour luvvies and their fellow travelling Guardianistas. They were all happy to glory and exalt in Labour’s Scottish “fiefdom” constantly returning numpty lobby fodder to Westminster.

      The very use of that word “fiefdom” shows the contempt in which they hold Scotland and the Scots. We are seen as a mere feudal possession doing London Labour’s bidding.

      Despite their protestations of being “progressives”, they are typical British establishment imperialists and fascists to a man and woman. None of them care a jot for Scotland.

    120. Scott says:

      If only GMS would give Ruth Davidson the same treatment there is no doubt now if there ever was where BBC now stand anything to do with the SNP will be shown in a bad light,complaint now going in.

    121. admiral says:

      I’ve got absolutely zero respect for metropolitan luvvies and their fellow travelling Guardianistas. They were happy to glory in Labour’s Scottish “fiefdom” returning numpty lobby fodder to Westminster.

      The mere use of that word “fiefdom” betrays the utter contempt in which they hold Scotland and the Scots, equating us to a feudal possession to be used, abused, ignored and discarded at the whim of London Labour.

      Despite their protestations to being “progressives”, they are unrepentant British establishment imperialists and fascists to a man and a woman.

    122. Dr Jim says:

      Sky news reporting how good the English NHS is at treating the victims of the massive rise in murdery stabbing shooting crime in England
      So that’s eh good news?

    123. Morgatron says:

      Scott@ 11.33
      I will also be registering a complaint. A disgraceful bit of foaming mouthed SNP Baaaadddd. Everything overlooked about the innocent victims of Yeman, Westminsters greed in supplying the arms, Trident on the Clyde and the fat wee tank rider not being quizzed on anything- the SNP beed to lodge a formal complaint – fuck them , uts all negitive anyway , so no loss there.

    124. Craig P says:

      Impressive record. Personally I did not expect Brexit and until recently, thought there would still be some way found to run it into the sands. But it seems unstoppable now.

      I will make a prediction.

      The union will not be over until a UK politician is dumb enough to put the question of retaining it to the English electorate.

      Until then even if a majority of Scots want it it won’t happen. After then, not all the JK Rowlings and dark money in the world will be able to prevent it.

    125. Giving Goose says:

      B-Day, pronounced “Bidet” or Brexit day, like the plumbing fixture, is going to be so full of excrement for the BritNats that no wonder BBC Scotland feels the need to go full on crazy at the SNP.

      Colonel Ruth will not get the same treatment, nor will any unionist.

      We are seeing the BBC in full-on “Preserve the Union at any cost” mode.

      It’ll get worse but let them rant away IMHO.

    126. Danny says:

      Wee Bud 8.46am

      “Arlene Foster sorry I mean Hayley Miller on Radio Shiteland…”

      Nice one Bud, that’s a “Sticker”.

    127. Danny says:

      In the bad old days when I used to listen to GMS I noticed a pattern some mornings where they would really batter into the SNP from 6am until 8am and for some reason after 8am it calmed down some what.

      My thinking was that they were trying to reach the ear of people going to work which would be between 6am and 8am.

      BBC Scotland must have thought that there is nothing better than sending people off to work on a Monday morning with a good dose of SNP Bad ringing in their ears.

      And from what I am reading this morning BBC Radio Scotland are still playing the same evil wee games.

    128. Sarah says:

      I’ve just come across possibly the worst ever example of failure by MSM. AUOB Facebook shared it from Vox Political.

      A woman set fire to herself in Barnet Council’ Housing office on Wednesday 15th August. There has been NO report by ANY TV, radio or MSM, just the shortest statement of the fact by the local paper. Barnet is Conservative-run.

      What the…? Surely this should have been all over every programme and paper? Please contact every MSM you know, once you’ve checked the story, to ask them why no report.

    129. galamcennalath says:

      In elections, parties produce manifestos. When they get elected they generally try to deliver those plans and promises. The Westminster system of full of flaws and undemocratic aspects, but the relationship between the offers made at campaign time, and the actions of the winning government, are generally related.

      Now, it’s all gone to Hell. We’ve had two referendums and the winning sides had no firm plans and no manifestos. What was promised by campaigners was at best wishful thinking and worst absolute deceit.

      Then the 2017 general election. That was no better! Who promised what? Bu99ered if I know.

      So, what connection there was between pre vote proposals and later delivery appears to have disappeared. Add to this a corrupt media which has left voters woefully prepared to understand the situations and decisions they face.

      The UK is in a very bad place!

      Reading though comments, there is only one thing which matters and one thing which gives hope – IndyRef2 and leaving England to get its act together. We can’t wait around much longer.

    130. Stravaiger says:

      Since we’re predicting things, here’s mine.

      1. There will be a no-deal Brexit
      2. There will be no second EU referendum
      3. May will be allowed to carry on until after Brexit. If there is a leadership challenge it will be by the hard right, but I see it as unlikely.
      4. There will be no GE before Brexit, unless a new hard right PM thinks they can profit from it, so again, unlikely.
      5. A second Indyref will be gloves off, no holds barred

      Prepare for that lot and I think we’re in with a shout, but we need to get our shit together NOW. Eyes on the prize folks!

    131. galamcennalath says:

      Nana says:

      Gordon MacIntyre-Kemp says

      “The right of British politics want to leave the EU because they think the EU is a socialist leaning cabal that has too many workers’ and human rights and safety standards to allow for free trade to do its job. Meanwhile the left think the EU enshrines capitalism in its members states and encourages globalisation and financialisation.”

      …. good point! To my mind, that means the EU must be getting it just about right!

    132. I say it again the BBC is only doing what it is getting allowed to do because no one is trying to stop them So by doing nothing the people who could challenge them are by their silence condoning it

    133. Essexexile says:

      Noooooo…..!!
      I was only just getting over the bombshell of your recent article showing how there’ll be no indy victory any time soon, and now you go and remind us that you’re always right!

    134. Legerwood says:

      Ch4 news last night had an item on the People’s Vote issue. Gavin Esler was one of the people interviewed and someone from Leavers of London, whoever they might be.

      Only saw part of the interview/discussion but you can watch it here

      https://www.channel4.com/news/leavers-of-london-founder-a-second-brexit-vote-would-be-a-trap

      In the short bit I watched there seemed to be some confusion about what PV wanted.

    135. Capella says:

      @ Tinto Chiel – your dad was very wise. The poet John Cooper Clarke summarised the normal way of thinking The It Man:
      “Too much is not enough. Let’s not be naive.”

      These chancers in the BBC remind me of The It Man

      https://genius.com/John-cooper-clarke-it-man-lyrics

    136. Gary45% says:

      Listening to Good Morning Shortbread this morning, what a total embarrassing line of “Questioning?!” from shortbreads interviewer “Hairy Miller”. The desperation in her voice at the end of the interview could only be described as Primary 1 playground squealing.
      “Give up hen”

    137. Dan Huil says:

      Didn’t hear it myself but if the britnat interviewer was as deranged as people say it can only [further] damage the bbc and british nationalism.

      Don’t give your money to the britnat bbc.

    138. Clydebuilt says:

      Is it possible to listen to BBC I player output without logging in

      Just after 1pm heard Laura Maxwell talking to a Canadian gov. Rep. He was asked if the Scottish Gov. Opening an office in Canada was a good idea ” an Excellent idea” .was the reply cut short by the line failing ( we were told and they would attempt to reconnect ) . . . .

    139. galamcennalath says:

      Came across this newly released flowchart.

      https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/sites/default/files/brexit-scenarios-infographic.pdf

      I think it’s way over complicated. I think it comes down to something much simpler.

      1 Withdrawal Agreement signed. Orderly Brexit. Eazy peezy.
      2 UK f’cks up. No deal disorderly Brexit.
      3 No deal agreed, but EU agree to keep talking, perhaps extending Article 50

      …. there, much simplified!

    140. Nana says:

      For anyone who missed this morning’s atrocious interview of Jamie Hepburn

      listen again here
      https://twitter.com/RobDunsmore/status/1031513369436717056

    141. Thepnr says:

      The Rev has just posted a link to that GMS interview that has people talking this morning 🙂

      https://twitter.com/RobDunsmore/status/1031513369436717056

    142. Thepnr says:

      @Nana

      Beat me too it 🙂

    143. Daisy Walker says:

      re the People’s Vote –

      given the short timescale till 29/3/19 why on earth would any genuine campaign (yes I know they’re not really) seeking to change attitudes to leaving the UK, why on earth would they waste their time preaching to the converted in 62% Remain Scotland, surely there are significant parts of England where their efforts would be much more (potentially) productive.

      Yet another strand to their duplicity.

      Absolutely not abut EU Ref2, and everything to do with destroying/damaging any chance of Indy Ref 2.

    144. galamcennalath says:

      Nana says:

      For anyone who missed this morning’s atrocious interview of Jamie Hepburn

      Just did. Good to hear what the discussion has been about. Thanks. 🙂

      When I listen to stuff like this now, I really do wonder what the BBC hope to achieve by behaviour like that. Surely, no matter what political views a listener might hold, they couldn’t have been impressed by the ‘stair heed rammy’ style of the interviewer! Ill mannered, not listening, not responding, just spewing out venom. No one (of any political persuasion) was left in any doubts about her personal political stance. Totally devoid of all professionalism.

      She claimed the grant for diversification out of armaments probably was used for marketing or publicity to promote arms. A very cheap shot and a particularly brainless one!

      Did she win any points in support of her beloved union there? Nope. She just made more people aware of the shite job the BBC do as alleged public broadcasters.

    145. Tinto Chiel says:

      Hee hee, @ Capella 1.37.

      Fearing hammers so leaving something in a similar vein on O/T (knock three times and ask for Mr Loomis).

    146. Nana says:

      @Thepnr 🙂

      One more link for today.

      ChelseaClinton says @NicolaSturgeon ‘courage’ in speaking about the challenges of being a female leader will inspire other women

      video
      https://twitter.com/BBCScotlandNews/status/1031533459460767745

    147. OMG that was not an interview that was an interrogation/inquisition,

      well done to Jamie for not returning the vitriol that the BBC person was spewing at him,

      using the murder of weans to try and get in a SNP bad story and then going total Tonto and right of the reservation when her mad accusations didn`t stick,

      reminded me of BBC`s James Cook interrogating Nicola when the French ambassador stushie broke,

      for shame BBC for shame.

    148. starlaw says:

      Thanks for posting the link to GMS’s boorach of an interview with Jamie Hepburn. I caught the end of it Live when whoever she was got into her rant, then pulled the plug or was it the Director who pulled the plug as she had nowhere else to go.

      Also the FBI’s most wanted man in Florida has been described as a Scottish man, nice to know the FBI accept our nationhood.

    149. Macart says:

      @Thepnr and Nana

      Yeah, clocked and dear God that was simply unhinged by the interviewer. 😮

      Near as I can see the Enterprise money was to diversify away from arms manufacture and into non military or civilian applications. It’s also kinda problematic in that defence and foreign affairs are both reserved matters and Scotgov would have little to no say as to who gets sold what.

      Mind you, it’s not as if Mr Hepburn was given much (any) opportunity to answer a question. A mindboggling interview.

    150. Colin Alexander says:

      @ Stu Campbell

      Impressive predictions about the USA predidential contest: What’s your prediction about the FM’s Autumn statement about a second Indyref?

      Will she announce an indyref or no?

      And should we call you Nostudamus?

    151. Clapper57 says:

      @ winifred McCartney says: on 20 August, 2018 at 11:25 am

      “While we are at it Corbyn in Scotland today after tweeting congrats to India on anniversary of Independence and also to Pakistan – anywhere but Scotland – just because politically they think they need Scotland to get into WM”.

      ———————————————————

      Hi Winifred….he’s either trolling us i.e. the Scots who support Indy, trolling the SNP or is an idiot………..take your pick .

    152. Dr Jim says:

      Phew! that BBC interviewer managed to launch herself into the hysterical and not the funny Ha Ha kind
      This must be what happens within the BBC when the interviewer’s under pressure from above to get the result the BBC wants and that pressure caused that interviewers head to explode
      So now does she lose her job for not getting the desired result or does she lose her job for not keeping herself under control so that us nasty Independence people don’t flood social media with noises of BBC bias and incompetence

      Or does she just get a wee dose of BBC Bryan Taylor retraining and sent back to the front to continue the fight

      See what you’ve set yourself up for Rona Dougall, are you prepared to have a nervous breakdown on behalf of the BBC after having it easy at STV

    153. Cubby says:

      Don’t listen to the BBC or GMS but since the link was put up thought I would have a listen. Just the same as ever from the BBC – Britnat propaganda in full flow. The interrogator will probably be promoted for putting on full display her Britnat hatred of the SNP.

      The BBC stinks of propaganda.

      There is probably a meeting taking place right now at Propaganda Quay working out what SNP bad reports they can do for the rest of the week. Obviously there are plenty of Britnats(tractors) in Scotland who are only to happy to assist with their dodgy personal stories.

      The BBC telling Scots what to think since 1923.

    154. Nana says:

      A few links for a quiet afternoon

      Barrhead boy chatting with Jason Michael [Jeggit]

      https://viloud.tv/channel/a02b9e30dc3057bb16ee4cd5d541859d/video/49aa491aa69e81bbf1e32b26666f29be

      and two videos from Gordon Ross indycar

      https://www.facebook.com/indycargordonross/videos/464242164078627/

      https://www.facebook.com/indycargordonross/videos/1708011905992747/

      and a wee reminder of this evening’s conversation with Michael Russell MSP
      https://www.facebook.com/DemocracyLiveScot/

    155. Daisy Walker says:

      @’Colin Alexander says:
      20 August, 2018 at 3:12 pm
      @ Stu Campbell

      Impressive predictions about the USA predidential contest: What’s your prediction about the FM’s Autumn statement about a second Indyref?

      Will she announce an indyref or no?

      And should we call you Nostudamus?’

      Clearly he’s the Bath Seer.

    156. Dr Jim says:

      According to SKY news world economy experts the only way an oil rich country can go broke is due to corruption
      They were of course referring to Venezuela but I think the point should be well taken that the UK is an oil rich entity but they’re going broke

      Ergo the UK must be corrupt

      See even when they steal assets they cannae dae it right

    157. TheBuchanLoony says:

      With regard to the interview with Jamie Hepburn. The ‘Branch Office’ realisation and sheer humiliation of everyone at BBC Scotland after the London lawyers closing down Wings without telling anyone and the resulting complete undermining of any tenuous shred of ‘impartiality’ has made Gillian Marles (the ‘interviewer’) and the rest of her like in pathetic quay now realise that they are on a sinking ship and, with their entrenched political views, their only hope is to get a job at head office south of the border. She was desperately trying up her CV to get noticed by the real bosses down south and ‘earn’ her ticket out of there. As she realised that it was progressively failing she became more and more hysterical.

    158. Robert Kerr says:

      My understanding is the device manufactured by Raytheon facilitated to upgrade of conventional bombs to laser guided precision weapons.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paveway_IV

      The device is manufactured in the UK and is deployed ONLY by the RAF and the Royal Saudi Airforce. NOT by any other airforce.

      The export licence to Saudi Arabia is wholly within the remit of the UK government. No one else.

      The question that must be asked and hopefully answered is ” Are the casualties described due to the success of the precision guidance or due do its inadequacies?”

      If the answer is “success” then the culpability rests partly on the UK government and partly with the Saudis. The UK government for the export licence and for training RSA personnel by the RAF. The Saudis for their targeting decision.

      The Obama administration blocked these arms sales to Saudi Arabia.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/us/politics/saudi-arabia-arms-sale-yemen-war.html?_r=0

      However the UK government has successfully worked around that blockage.

      Make of that what you will.

      Looks like the BBC have opened a can of worms with their SNPbaaad effort this morning.

    159. sandy says:

      Rory Bremner in Edinburgh addressing the converted.
      Who came up with that idea. Methinks maybe start of the English campaign of the usual lies in anticipation of the forthcoming referendum on the Scottish breakaway from the last remanants of English Empire colonialism.
      —-..—

      OT
      Food, energy, water. The basics for survival of which Scotland has an abundance of.
      Post de-colonialism:
      Let’s take food. With the English population starving, I have come up with an idea which may alleviate their forthcoming problem.

      With Scottish food coming to their near “sell by” date, say a day or two before, that same food be loaded onto trucks & taken south where it can be thrown to the thronging masses. (Irish & Scottish famine come to mind). We could also perhaps use our charitable charisma to persuade their former colonies to chip in, bags of rice & flour. After all, the majority of English are human beings, humane maybe not, but humans after all. Good will to all men (and women, bless them) but charity begins at home.

      Energy, well again we could supply that on a charitable basis. Their nuclear plans would be up s**t creek, back to burning coal & wood & anything combustible they could lay their hands on. Fracking, see below.

      Water, well, should they go ahead with fracking, & bear in mind that this would be short term due to lack of future investment, what little ground water they have would be contaminated for many, many years to come. Again, We would feel obliged to step in.

      In conclusion, SCOTLAND, ENGLAND’S SAVIOUR.

    160. winifred McCartney says:

      You have to wonder if the bbc are guilty of not just propaganda and bias but of corruption since they know defence is a devolved area and that the money given to the Fife firm was to help them diversify – in other words get rid of links to arms components, but still they question as though none of the above apply and the yoons get off scot free – I don’t hear bbc london questioning anyone regarding the arms deals and licenses and they are the ones who should be being questioned. Just find a link however tenuous to the snp and make it into snp bad – bbc sorted. Blatantly biased and corrupt that describes the bbc.

      Remember the planted nurse and the glee of bbc reporters when nursie challenged the FM – even though it was a General Election and not a Scottish Election – it did not suit bbc purposes to define the difference.

    161. Marie Clark says:

      Nana & Thepnr thanks for the link to that “interview”. My, my,good on Jamie Hepburn for keepin the heid. That was absolutely awful. She got more and more hysterical as she ranted on. I reckon she knew she was clutching at straws, but hey ho, must get the daily SNP BAAAAAD story in.

      If that’s the best that the BBC can come up with the must be getting awfy jittery. What an embarassment, mind you they say that brass disnae colour eh.

      That don’t impress me much, and I’m probably not alone in that thought sheesh.

    162. galamcennalath says:

      winifred McCartney says:

      a General Election and not a Scottish Election – it did not suit bbc purposes to define the difference.

      Purposely confusing what is devolved and reserved is a favourite BritNat tactic. They do it because they know much of the electorate isn’t clear on what’s what. And, because they do it continually, much of the electorate is left confused.

      The SNP/SG really should try to break that feedback loop!

      When asked a question about a reserved matter, the SNP/SG individual should always adopt tactics like, “as the viewers will know that is a reserved matter so you really should ask the UK Gov about that, however …….”, only then say what they were going to say anyway!

      Second time the interviewer does it …. “another reserved matter, the viewer will be starting to think you seem confused …. “, then say what they wish, again.

      Hammer the barstards. There are ways of putting them down politely and setting the record straight. The reserved/devolved ‘mistake on purpose’ is something they should never be allowed to get away with. In the minds of less savvy voters, it results in the SG taking the flak and blame for WM actions.

    163. Dorothy Devine says:

      Gosh! You can’t call that an interview can you???

      It’s more like a verbal attack, using a distorted ‘fact’ as ammunition and added rising pitch.

      The BBBC really should take a lesson from Russia Today – the interviewers are respectful, well informed but don’t miss their targets.

    164. Juan says:

      Dr Jim says:
      20 August, 2018 at 4:26 pm
      “According to SKY news world economy experts the only way an oil rich country can go broke is due to corruption
      They were of course referring to Venezuela but I think the point should be well taken that the UK is an oil rich entity but they’re going broke
      Ergo the UK must be corrupt
      See even when they steal assets they cannae dae it right”

      When they were stealing from a quarter of the globe, England’s addiction to tea, nearly bankrupted their whole empire so they resorted to drug dealing in OPIUM. They’re no smarter or more ethical now than they were then. The UK is corrupt to it’s core. Always has been and always will be. At least they’re consistent.

    165. WeeChid says:

      Does that mean Jakey will be writing books about you?

    166. Dr Jim says:

      @sandy

      Let them eat cake …..oh aye and jam I hear they’ve got some of that

    167. wull2 says:

      Everything I do to copy a link to GMS interview to FB does not happen. Why?
      Also my automatic insertion of my name and email address has disappeared again, are they trying to get me fed up. No chance.

    168. Colin Alexander says:

      If the SNP want to win over NO voters, they should guarantee a decent number of public lavvies in Scotland that remain open.

      Austerity? You can’t even get to spend a penny with all the closed public toilets.

      Councils and government are taking the piss, instead of the public toilets.

      It also discriminates against people with bladder / bowel problems.

      For example, the number of public toilets at Largs is impressive. Such a shame most of them are padlocked shut – even at the height of the tourist season.

    169. Capella says:

      BTW CNN says that the bomb that killed the 40 Yemeni children was supplied by the US.

      https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/08/17/middleeast/us-saudi-yemen-bus-strike-intl/index.html

    170. Proud Cybernat says:

      BREAKING from Pravda Quay
      with Union Jackie Kim Ono:</i?

      https://i.imgur.com/pXaXfyT.jpg

    171. Cactus says:

      Abracadabra:

      https://united4yes.org/event/edinburgh-auob-march-for-independence/

      The march arrives at the grounds of our Scottish Government.

      It’s magic!

    172. Fred says:

      Anent lavvies, try the bookies, the pubs or shopping-centres/supermarkets. Cannae believe the folk in Largs are peein in the street!

    173. galamcennalath says:

      Colin Alexander says:

      If the SNP want to win over NO voters, they should guarantee a decent number of public lavvies in Scotland that remain open. …. Largs …. most of them are padlocked shut

      North Ayrshire Council has a Labour administration surviving with other BritNat votes, as I understand it.

    174. Shinty says:

      Never heard such a childish petty interview.

      Just googled Gillian Marles and it seems she is a senior journalist for BBC Worldwide FFS. (thought she was just a daft wee lassie standing in for Hayley)

      Get a grip Ms. Marles, your slip is showing.

    175. K1 says:

      Absolute disgrace, that wasn’t an interview it was a poorly disguised full frontal ‘attack’ on Jamie Hepburn. She attempted to twist the narrative to suit ‘her/bbc’s agenda. Thinks she’s pulling a ‘Paxman’ when all she pulled was a muscle in her larynx trying to wedge ‘her’ viewpoint into the mix.

      Aye the BBC ‘aren’t’ biased at all. And I’ve just bought a new zip fur the back o’ ma heid.

    176. heraldnomore says:

      Surely that’s no Colin talking pish again?

    177. Referendum1707 says:

      Galamcennalath 5.04

      “Purposely confusing what is devolved and reserved is a favourite BritNat tactic. They do it because they know much of the electorate isn’t clear on what’s what. And, because they do it continually, much of the electorate is left confused.

      The SNP/SG really should try to break that feedback loop!

      When asked a question about a reserved matter, the SNP/SG individual should always adopt tactics like, “as the viewers will know that is a reserved matter so you really should ask the UK Gov about that, however …….”, only then say what they were going to say anyway!

      Second time the interviewer does it …. “another reserved matter, the viewer will be starting to think you seem confused …. “, then say what they wish, again.

      Hammer the barstards. There are ways of putting them down politely and setting the record straight. The reserved/devolved ‘mistake on purpose’ is something they should never be allowed to get away with. In the minds of less savvy voters, it results in the SG taking the flak and blame for WM actions.”

      Yes that’s exactly right. So can someone explain why SNP/SG aren’t using these tactics in hostile “interview” situations? I don’t watch any msm news but from what I read about it they’re still often not responding to it effectively. Why is that?

    178. Jock McDonnell says:

      Hey @Proud Cybernat
      I think you’ll find it’s ‘Scots-American Donald Trump’ 😉

    179. Thepnr says:

      Referendum1707

      “So can someone explain why SNP/SG aren’t using these tactics in hostile “interview” situations?”

      Jamie Hepburn of the SNP in his now infamous interview, used that very tactic today by pointing out that export licences for arms are reserved to Westminster and that if this was directly under control of the Scottish government then under no circumstances would they issue an export license.

      Didn’t have much effect though as Gillian Marles became even more aggressive and continued to talk right over him. If there was any success it all then I’m pretty sure those listening to that interview or hearing it now on social media are not going to be impressed at all by the BBC and GMS in particular.

    180. sandy says:

      Maybe Colin “troll” Alexander needs a lavi of his own. No-one would get to use it considering all the p**s & s**t emanating from his various orifices.

    181. Hamish100 says:

      So the Courier journalist Craig Smith runs with a story and quotes from Leonard of Labour to divert from Corbyn’s visit today and Jim Sheridan ex MP suspension.

      The BBC the uses the story avoiding the fact the export licences lie with the tories at Westminster and are blatantly biased. Tories Labour BBC are the same.

      News being created not reported by the BBC.

    182. Famous15 says:

      I have just realised who writes the script for gchq troll Colin Alexander.

      Largs is it?

      Yes him!

    183. Capella says:

      I see Forward As One is advertising itself on Facebook with a rally in Dunfermline on Sept 1st. Anyone know anything about this group? First time I’ve heard of them. Could be a bit of confuson with the All Under One Banner group.

      https://www.facebook.com/ForwardAsOneScot/

    184. Clootie says:

      Another good day 🙂

      The BBC provided another example of their bias.
      A pub in Dundee demonstrated their bias and I’m sure it will not go unnoticed.

    185. Hamish100 says:

      Colin Alexander says:I need a shit in Largs

      try the many pubs clubs and hotels in the town. There’s even Morrisons, the ferry to Cumbrae has a kasi too.
      weird that he can only find padlocks and chains– is it a tory thing? Yip it is a Labour run council supported by some very dubious tories. Did you do it in the Firth of Clyde?? Wheres SEPA when you need them.

      Years of Labour you end up with Saltcoats.

    186. Sarah says:

      @Nana at 08.30: I only saw your link about the MSM failure to report about the woman setting fire to herself in Barnet Council [Tory run] Housing office after my post at 11.00ish.

      The incident itself is horrific and so is the silence from MSM.

    187. Colin Alexander says:

      I never blamed the SNP for shutting the bogs. I said, getting the bogs opened again would be a popular idea.

      Also, I’ve hardly made any comments for weeks. No disrespect to Stu’s blog but, I’ve got better things to do with my time these days.

      I’m also waiting for the FM’s autumn announcement on indyref.

      So, I’ll get back to something useful and leave youse to enjoy your echo chamber.

    188. Robert Peffers says:

      @Giving Goose says: 20 August, 2018 at 11:20 am:

      ” … One of those frayed threads could be unpicked rather quickly and I believe that they, BBC Scotland, know that full well.”

      Yes and it might not be what everyone thinks it will be. As I have often pointed out the EU has the ideal legal trick up its sleeve if it cares to use it and it won’t even need a referendum or a Westminster General election to clear up the whole sorry mess.

      Fact one:- The EU member state is legally, “The United Kingdom”. That is what it says it is and that is what it legally is. It is not a country – it is four countries but only two, legally signed up kingdoms on the Treaty of Union that made the United Kingdom.

      Fact two:- The United Kingdom, according to the Treaty of Union is a two partner kingdom. To be able to sign up to that union both parties must be equally sovereign and thus equal partners. When any bipartite union ends the legal Status Quo Ante is a return to two independent kingdoms and the joint assets negotiated – and if disagreed – the courts decide not either one of the former partners. The Kingdom of England was never an agreed union but forced by military victories and royal edict under the old rule of law of, “Divine Right of Kings”. i.e.it cannot be legally a, “United Kingdom of England”, and sure as hell not a, “United Kingdom of Great Britaian”.

      Fact three:- As the legal EU member state is The United Kingdom and the two kingdoms have split up then either one can become the EU legacy Member state but would need to re-negotiate the terms and conditions. The Kingdom of England has voted to leave the EU and the Kingdom of Scotland has voted to remain but both kingdoms voters are EU citizens until they are no longer EU citizens. Yet the EU is legally duty bound to protect the interests of EU citizens so are duty bound to respect the expressed wishes of the people of The Kingdom of Scotland AND the people of The Kingdom of England.

      And all it takes is for the EU parliament to rule that as the United Kingdom is the Member State and has split up that both Kingdom’s citizens get what they voted for and Scotland remains as the legacy member state. Everyone gets what they voted for including the EU who retain their number of member states.

      All done via the international courts of Justice. The salient fact being that Westminster is legally the Parliament of a two kingdom partnership of kingdoms and is not, and never has been other than a two partner Kingdom that, just incidentally, contains four countries.

      In fact much like The USSR which was not Russia and when it ended the countries reverted to individual, non-USSR, countries.

      So there you go – if the EU really wants to retain the loyalty of the people of Scotland who could well, if independent, choose to join EFTA, Russia, China or even Japan as partners in a new union. If the EU doesn’t support us what loyalty would we have with the European Union?

      A free Scotland can please her legally sovereign people and Scotland will. Let us wait and see who are our friends and who are not.

    189. Patrick Roden says:

      @ nana, 10.15

      How many times has Jeremy C came up to Scotland to revitalise Labour?

      Does the Labour Party not have just one person who has enough political awareness, to understand the damage done to any party who repeatedly re-launches a campaign that they promised already would ‘revitalise’ the party?

      They sound like Michelle Mone and her Bitcoin malarkey.

      The first launch is laughable to most people, but the re-launch feels like a fraud/con.

      Obviously Scottish (no laughing at the back ) Labour have decided that Richard Leonard isn’t up to the job and that they are going no-where fast under him.

      So let’s put rev to the test:

      Who will be the Scottish Labour Party’s next leader?

    190. HandandShrimp says:

      The BBc don’t report and analyse news they grind out agendas. It used to be more subtle but in recent years it is pretty poor and clumsy propaganda.

      Export licences for weapons is reserved and their is only one party aiding the slaughter of Yemeni children and they never ask her anything.

    191. Robert Peffers says:

      @Phil says: 20 August, 2018 at 11:26 am:

      ” … Peffers : 20 August, 2018 at 1:12 am
      I do hope you are ready and willing to keep re-printing that as it is hard for an old stager’s brain to remember it all and keep it straight.”

      Hey! Phil, I’m well into my eighties – it takes me to remember what day it is I collect my pension. That’s the problem then you’re retired and not a churchgoer – every day is the same so you forget what day of the week it is.

      I usually remember when I draw the curtains of a morning and see the neighbours have their bins put out that it’s a Monday … Then I have to check the Calendar to see what month it is and if it is still 201718.

    192. ronnie anderson says:

      http://www.yes2-scotland.scot/

      Looks like Harry Sahm ( aka Stephen Lylle Yessie ) is back punting his his merchandise to the Independence movement . Please Share & warn people he’s out to make money from the gullible .

    193. alistair x says:

      That pub in Dundee used to have a Stirling branch which they shut down recently with no warning to the staff, the backshift manager told me one of the staff phoned her a hour before her shift, that there was two guys with a van come to take the stock.
      twenty people most on minimum wage and zero contract on the street out of a job that night, about eight I think.
      not people I would spend money with.

    194. Robert Peffers says:

      @Blair Paterson says: 20 August, 2018 at 1:23 pm:

      ” … I say it again the BBC is only doing what it is getting allowed to do because no one is trying to stop them.”

      Pish! Who is it you think is able to stop them, Blair?

      “So by doing nothing the people who could challenge them are by their silence condoning it.”

      It was utter pish the first time you posted it and it hasn’t become better with age. Typical propaganda there, Blair, blame the victims instead of the perpetrators.

      You post this pish on a thread that is almost exclusively filled with people angry with the BBC, and the actions of the London Luvvies plus the hypocrisy of the Corbyn visit to Scotland.

      Yet here you are hinting that the very people who the BBC is victimising and their representative who almost never get a fair hearing from the BBC, nor from the rest of the Westminster controlled media, are the ones at fault.

      Like the BBC you are convincing no one in Scotland, who is not already convinced, that The SNP are BAAAAAD!

    195. Robert Peffers says:

      @Dan Huil says: 20 August, 2018 at 1:39 pm:

      ” … Don’t give your money to the britnat bbc.”

      Hasn’t it sunk in yet, Dan?

      No one gets the choice not to give money to the BBC because the, “Broadcast Licence”, is a receipt to the Licence paper from the Westminster Treasury that they have paid to get government permission to view live video broadcasts from any media and not just the BBC, on any medium including the Internet, (the term licence is a.k.a. permission given).

      You don’t get a choice for the licence fee belongs to the Westminster Treasury who then make an agreed grant from General Taxation and that being so we all pay that general taxation so we pay for the BBC even if we do not buy the government’s permission to view.

    196. stu mac says:

      Has Rory Bremner acknowledged that the Rev is a Wizard yet?

    197. Dave McEwan Hill says:

      Patrick Roden at 8.10

      Sweeney, when he gets his long trousers

    198. sassenach says:

      Robert Peffers @9-15pm

      Even I am getting quite upset at the number of times you are needing to explain this BBC licence thing to some Wingers.

      I remember posting about it a couple of years ago, not in quite the same detail as your good self, but just pointing out that the ‘licence fee’ goes into general taxation, and not paying it does not affect the BBC finances in any way.

      When will folk on here finally get it??

    199. Terry says:

      Robert Peffers is correct, there is no such thing as a TV Licence Fee.

      The BBC Budget is fixed by the Treasury for a set amount of years and will not be adjusted, except for a reduction which used to cover over 75s.

      The BBC Will have to cut services somewhere to cover that payment.

    200. K1 says:

      Colin Alexander says….

      *Flush*

    201. Morgatron says:

      Colin Alexander@7.35
      You’ve better things to do?? Like kack yer pants.

    202. Gary45% says:

      Shortbreads Marles, Miller.
      I cannot tell the difference, as they all sound like “white noise”.

    203. Bobp says:

      Starlaw 3.07pm. What,you mean the FBI’s most wanted man is Scottish. Good job he wasn’t english , else he would have been british.

    204. Phronesis says:

      Britannia unhinged- floridly delusional, thought disordered and harking back to the days of the Empire (with its equally deranged partner) – embracing the politics of fear, exporting weapons that are targeting civilians, its business model is rooted in human suffering. Britannia unhinged still believes it’s a major presence in the EU and its current conduct promotes human rights, democracy- there is a real disconnect here between words and deeds. The clear and present internal danger is the collapse of state provision.

      ‘The UK intends to continue a strong, close and frank relationship with the United States that delivers concrete benefits for both sides, and to advance the British national interest through an effective EU policy in priority areas, engaging constructively while protecting national sovereignty. The UK seeks to deliver more effective and modernised international institutions, particularly the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation, the European Union, the United Nations, the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe and the Council of Europe. In addition, it was working to strengthen the Commonwealth as a focus for promoting democratic values, human rights, climate resilient development, conflict prevention and trade; while using soft power as a tool of UK foreign policy; promote British values, including human rights; and contribute to the welfare of developing countries and their citizens…Britain was not turning away from Europe or from the indispensable alliance with the United States. America will remain our single closest ally and Britain will be an active and activist member of the European Union. Britain will support its enlargement, the effective use of its collective weight in the world, the strengthening of its single market, and proposals to promote economic growth’

      https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/uk-forrel.htm

      “These supplements to the planned nuclear force replacement program are prudent options for enhancing the flexibility and diversity of U.S. nuclear capabilities. They are compliant with all treaties and agreements, and together, they will: provide a diverse set of characteristics enhancing our ability to tailor deterrence and assurance; expand the range of credible U.S. options for responding to nuclear or non-nuclear strategic attack; and, enhance deterrence by signaling to potential adversaries that their limited nuclear escalation offers no exploitable advantage.”

      https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/systems/index.html

    205. Dr Jim says:

      Scotland tonight:

      Prof Sir John Curtice asked by John McKay about a Scottish Independence referendum replied…

      Theresa May backed by the DUP will never allow Scotland a referendum on Independence

      Now that statement from Ultra Unionist Curtice in his concealed panic to hide his true feelings should send angry judders down every Scots back, because what he just said (apart from being disingenuous as a section 30 order is not permission) amounts to the DUP running Scotland and I don’t think most of us are going to let that one pass

      Andy McKeever ex Tory spin doctor kept his usual cool while he lied about support for Independence not moving in the polls as Leslie Riddoch quite rightly pointed out the polls haven’t moved much because nobody’s asked the question yet, but she’s convinced as are we all that when the FM asks the question all hell will break loose

      Even the Tory faithful Curtice couldn’t find a suitable obfuscation to hide behind as he mumbled his way through the total and abject failure of the Tories to achieve anything other than mibbees aye mibbees naw wait and see

      One last thing, the polls will reflect the agenda of the pollsters not the intent of the people, but we know that don’t we

    206. Hamish100 says:

      Pretty well convinced that the bbc nonsense this morning with the unionist press was to tar the snp to assist Corbyn. If you assist Corbyn in Scotland you assist the tories.

      Amazing how quick the bbc closed down the story by mid morning. You would almost think they were caught lying.

    207. yesindyref2 says:

      CA is the type of guy who’s playing 5 card poker with 7 high to a grasshopper, shows his cards and tries to bluff it.

    208. Thepnr says:

      From the Revs twitter, GMS need to get in touch with their Welsh counterparts on BBC I would think LOL.

      “OH MY GOD, Labour are such disgusting hypocrites:

      “Raytheon UK has recently been awarded a grant of £407,000 from the (Labour-run) Welsh Government”

      Explain this, @LabourRichard, you two-faced smear merchant!”

      https://twitter.com/UpIander/status/1031679064405360642

    209. yesindyref2 says:

      For anyone wants to read the Harris and Diffley report on rail and nationalisation, I tracked it down via a game of snakes and ladders with a bit of cluedo thrown in:

      https://www.dropbox.com/s/ve7e173mjxwfyqv/Is%20Scotland%20on%20the%20right%20track_%20-%20Tom%20Harris%20-%20August%202018.pdf?dl=0

    210. yesindyref2 says:

      Just taking a quick look at that report, and there’s already some gems in the Foreword by some rail magazine:

      ScotRail is, by some key measures, the best performing large train operator in the UK. This despite frequently missing some very challenging performance targets – which, to me, actually says the system is calibrated pretty well!

      and

      I wish that the Holyrood approach to railways was replicated south of the border and strongly urge the Department for Transport in London to look hard at Transport Scotland, because we desperately need a similarly skilled, measured and arms length body like that for rail in England

      Don’t forget this is in a report by Tom Harris.

    211. Ken500 says:

      Pollsters are used by Hedge funds to manipulate the vote to make money. Criminal activities. Gerry meandering to line their pockets. Why are universities employing biased criminals and covering up their activities?

      There will be a GE election soon to get the Tories out of their mess. A complete and utter shambles. Labour/LibDems etc are no better. Useless. The Tories could have Vern voted out by them if they had turned up and did not abstain. A complete and utter shambles. The Westminster Gov. Lying sychophants.

      May will be gone. Every UK political leader who opposes Scottish Indepenence lasts two years or less. The poison chalice. Johnston is a criminal and would not last a month.

    212. Ken500 says:

      £Billions is being wasted on HS2. No business case. Not enough passengers. It will always be subsidised. Two tier. It will make rail journeys throughout Britain take longer. Damaging the Scottish/UK economy. Investment should be made in the North of England and Scotland. Journey times take twice as long, by comparison, because of historical lack of investment. There would be less air flights needed, if rail journey times were quicker. What have Scottish railways, rail policies, got to do with Tom Harris? A right wing Telegraph columnist.

    213. Breeks says:


      Thepnr says:
      21 August, 2018 at 1:14 am
      From the Revs twitter, GMS need to get in touch with their Welsh counterparts on BBC I would think LOL.

      Any sign of life from Keith Brown’s Rebuttle Service?

      Or is that on hold until we know the details of Brexit?

    214. Nana says:

      http://indyref2.scot/good-morning-scotland-presenter-comes-under-fire-after-car-crash-interview

      Ofcom report – Your licence fee goes up but all BBC production for Scotland has been cut with current affairs output for Scotland down an incredible 45% from 89 hours in 2016 to just 50 hours in 2017. Now, what happened in 2016?
      https://twitter.com/PhantomPower14/status/1031294478513045504

      https://weegingerdug.wordpress.com/2018/08/20/dont-call-us-jeremy/

      Willie respects referendum results, but only if it’s the result Willie wants. Well done for pressing him Morag!
      https://twitter.com/GrahamP58/status/1031565253795037187

    215. Nana says:

      Brexit: lawyers at large
      http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86969

      The schisms exposed by Brexit will not be healed when Britain leaves the EU. That will be just the start of the revolution
      http://archive.is/4i6jT

      old article about the arms trade links to the bbc
      https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourbeeb/harry-blain/bbc-and-arms-trade-silent-scandal

      Thread on conflict of interest at the bbc
      https://twitter.com/TVOFFAL/status/1031470324079050753

    216. Highland Wifie says:

      Morning Nana. A fine set of links once again.
      Looking forward to hearing all about Scot Gov new office in Canada on Rep Scotland. Oh wait, no we don’t do positive stories that show Scotland being a normal outward looking country. Silly me.

    217. wull2 says:

      I have said this before, Big companies like to plan for the next 5 years and have more than likely done that, leaving the others to take the full force of what is about to hit the fan. You still have time to speak up. YES

    218. Famous15 says:

      That was good by the Chief Medical officer on GMS. I will answer and not be hurried or bullied like you tried yesterday.

    219. Macart says:

      @Thepnr

      Yeah, saw and commented on that elsewhere last night. I’m not entirely sure Labour understand human nature at all. Pretty certain they’re familiar the darker side of it right enough.

      They also probably don’t see a problem with their statements yesterday. It’s just how you practice politics. All’s fair etc. etc. They really, REALLY, don’t see that all they are doing is making people angry… at THEM. People are angry at being constantly deceived and manipulated. Insulted. Their promise to practice ;kinder more honest politics’ is now a running joke they’ve caught so many times in the same old, same old practices.

      No. No what they did was attempt to mislead people, YET AGAIN, and they did it from a position of complete hypocrisy. Setting aside their own long and tawdry history with UK corporate lobbying, arms manufacture and sales on the world market for a sec. We’re talking about the party who took the whole United Kingdom to war on a lie. A party up to its hips in human misery and they used our names to undersign their actions.

      How and ever, I’m sure an actual Scottish government will take their heartfelt (sigh) concern and outrage under advisement. It’s what you do when act responsibly in government I suppose.

      Me? I’m for filing their insulting, hypocritical bullshit and politics as it is practised under bin.

    220. Macart says:

      @Nana

      Mr Behr’s piece in the Guardian doesn’t go far enough. It’s not just about the Tory party. Those schisms run right through UK society and all the king’s horses and all the kings men etc.

      The UK can’t go back together again. Not the way it was. It’s practice of politics has gone too far, been too successful(?). Their choice.

    221. Clydebuilt says:

      Scotlands Chief Medical officer Catherine Calderwood stood up magnificently to Hayley Millar’s agressive and ill-informed questioning. Demonstrating that there is a justified need for the use of Mesh in some cases of female urinary incontinence.

      In an attempt to pile pressure on our CMO, Johann Lamentable and another female were aired calling for a complete ban. Unfortunately for them and the BBC there is a justified use of Mesh in a small number of.

      That’s two mornings on the trot the states propagandist’s have had big problems at peak audience time. Tough Shit!

    222. Nana says:

      @Highland Wifie

      Here’s more on the Canada office
      https://www.holyrood.com/articles/news/scottish-government-opens-new-international-office-canada

      https://randompublicjournal.com/2018/08/20/because-we-love-the-uk/

      The UK increasing overseas sales to 35% of GDP is a nice idea but too few British firms are onside
      http://archive.is/pLP97

      The UK and the EU have both released slides on “level playing field” provisions in a future trade deal – commitments on things like environmental and social protection, labour rules and tax that prevent either side from engaging in a “race to the bottom”. Interesting to compare:

      https://twitter.com/Raphael_Hogarth/status/1031584707509739520

    223. Ghillie says:

      Macart @ 8.23 am

      Yes. Spot on. Wow I’m glad you are on this side 🙂

      Nana, thank you as always! Lots of lovely reading =)

      Heard a wee bit earlier Jacob Reese Mogg making a hilarious statement about Britain becoming a huge exporting success post Brexit 🙂

    224. cearc says:

      An interesting and beautifully simple alternative to pumped storage.

      https://qz.com/1355672/stacking-concrete-blocks-is-a-surprisingly-efficient-way-to-store-energy

    225. galamcennalath says:

      Ghillie says:

      Jacob Reese Mogg making a hilarious statement about Britain becoming a huge exporting success post Brexit

      The far right believe that vision. Fox quoted today by the Express …

      BRITAIN can become an ‘exporting superpower’ after leaving the EU

      The problem is, not only do they believe it’s possible, they believe they can make it happen!

      Low wages, long hours, remove workers’ rights, low tax, decimate the social safety net, sweep away health and safety, cheap food imports, dodgy financial institutions doing the world’s money laundering …. etc! A far right utopia of a virtually enslaved population desperate for work of any kind, and a small ruling elite.

      Perhaps the saddest aspect of all is, many ordinary folk won’t see what’s coming and will open the door for them. Remember, the voters of Sunderland actually voted for Brexit.

      Their dream can be achieved. However, it’s a nightmare for most folks.

    226. Shinty says:

      Worth a watch Gordon Ross Indycar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAsXFde3BzE

    227. Ghillie says:

      Galamcennalath @ 9.49 am

      Was it Liam Fox that said it? ‘Britain can become an ‘exporting superpower’ after leaving the EU’

      Pure comic book stuff right enough.

      Either way, I gagged and it is absolutely terrifying that that is now being promoted and broadcast.

      Of course there will be folk down south (and even some closer to home) who will latch onto those ludicrous words.

      The future looks very very grim for England and Wales if their good folk don’t get their act together and choose a very different path.

      Scotland will be Independent and choosing our own path.

    228. sinky says:

      Great article by Robert McNeil in Herald this morning also good letter on GERS which is being published to-morrow.

    229. Dr Jim says:

      Some people want the mesh implant banned altogether, I’m no expert on mesh except to say I’ve got one and I’m a man and I had it put in by keyhole surgery 20 years ago to fix an inguinal hernia and I haven’t had a moments problem with it

      As I said I’m no expert but if it worked for me for all these years banning it would seem extreme, again I claim to know nothing about what may or may not be the differences between types of mesh surgeries or possible different types of mesh I’m only relating my experience of it

    230. Ghillie says:

      cearc @ 9.34 am

      ‘An interesting and beautifully simple alternative to pumped storage’

      That is just so cool!! Like you say, beautiful in its simplicity. And clean!

      Almost like something you would have seen on the Flintstones =)

      Concrete is now a dwindling resource but, as they say, mixing it with waste to bulk it out or even replacing that material with crushed cars say, could also be a solution to some of the World’s detritus! (which could still be recycled at any later point)

      It doesn’t even sound like something that would necessarily need to be hidden away. I think these towers of stored energy growing and falling back could be a kind of lovely kinetic art. Soothing even.

      Wow, that is an exciting innovation. Well done the Swiss 🙂

      (A wee country and pretty smart!)

    231. Nana says:

      @Macart
      Indeed there’s not enough glue to stick the UK back together and for that the rags must share the blame.
      The trouble with journalism is there are far too many Tory journalists.

      @Ghillie

      Rees Mogg
      How any self respecting working man or woman can look at that and think ‘what a great Pm’ makes me believe the government is putting some ‘substance’ in the English water supply.

      I saw a video of a reporter on an English street asking folks what they thought about Brexit, not one of them were negative in any way. The usual blame and bluster right out of the daily rags, repeating all the soundbites about immigrants, scroungers etc etc.
      One woman was asked how many immigrants she knew and what jobs they had ‘taken’. She came back with “I don’t know any” but still went with the “there are too many” nonsense.

      He asked her what she thought would happen after Brexit happens, she basically said she didn’t care so long as “she got her country back” She could have been easily mistaken for MoggieMay!

      A few more links

      https://itisintruthnotforglory.wordpress.com/2018/08/21/the-bbc-is-balanced-right/

      https://www.screen.scot/news/2018/08/3million-fund-to-boost-television-production-announced

      Honoured to be nominated for this year’s @UKPatchwork #MPoftheYearAwards One award – the People’s Choice Award – is voted for by the public.
      https://twitter.com/Dr_PhilippaW/status/1031826419305926657

    232. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “I was only just getting over the bombshell of your recent article showing how there’ll be no indy victory any time soon”

      You’re going to have to remind me of when I wrote that.

    233. Ghillie says:

      Dr Jim @ 10.38 am

      I have heard that too. I know a man who had a mesh implant following prostrate problems and he is pleased with the result.

      However, it does seem to cause terrible pain and serious problems for some women and sometimes cannot be removed or the procedure reversed leaving those sufferers in lifelong difficulty.

      It certainly seems to be a procedure that needs to be overseen by experienced expert medics and all the pros and cons weighed up with great care, and in most cases probably not now chosen as a viable or safe solution.

      And isn’t that what the medical expert was trying to say through the now familiar interview technique of the BBC?

      That’s how they, and those who still tune in, will stay forever ignorant.

    234. Ghillie says:

      Nana @ 10.50 am

      That is so scary and so so sad. But these poor folk don’t really have anyone to guide them do they?

      Mibee IndyScotland will be the example that they need one day.

    235. Robert Peffers says:

      I note a news item that Scottish NHS is drawing up detailed plans to ensure enough medicines and equipment is available in the event of a no-deal BR UKexit.

      Dr Catherine Calderwood was speaking as NHS Managers in England warned of a lack of planning over the impact ofleaving the EU without a deal.

      Which beggars the question of why, if SHNS can draw up plans, what prevents ENHS from doing the same?

    236. Ghillie says:

      Robert Peffers @ 12.51 pm

      Thank God for our Scottish Health Service !!

      Let us hope the rUK Health Services pay heed.



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