The pendulum set to determine the presence or otherwise of Sevco Rangers in next season’s Scottish Premier League, which earlier in the week appeared to be conclusively stuck on the “No” side of the clock, seems to have swung back at least partially in favour of the Ibrox club in the last 48 hours.
First of all Aberdeen chairman Stewart Milne refuted an apparent suggestion that the club were certain to vote No to Charles Green’s application for the old club’s SPL share, and now Motherwell have released a document painting a dire picture of the Fir Park side’s prospects without Rangers in the top division, going so far as to threaten the possibility of insolvency, in advance of the Well Society’s decision about their vote.
The document, compiled by the Motherwell board, does contain some balancing views (noting, for example, the possibility of a boycott by both home and away fans in the event of voting Yes, which would damage revenues in that scenario too), but seems tilted in favour of persuading the Society to accept Sevco Rangers’ application. And that’s odd, because of all the “Other 10” SPL members outside the Old Firm, Motherwell are the ones best placed to gain massively from the absence of Rangers – a fact the document surprisingly fails to explore.
For weeks now, if not months, the independence community has been bombarded with claims from Unionists that it’s not independence if you have a shared currency, cooperate on defence, keep the monarchy, share embassies or empower others to act on your behalf. There’s been a continuing drone to the effect that if you don’t do everything personally then you’re not independent.
This view, as any student of English will tell you, is flawed – doing everything for yourself is not independence, but rather self-reliance.
Self-reliance – Not requiring help or support from others while acting autonomously. Self-reliance is relative freedom from needing to rely on others for help with instrumental or task-oriented activities and is distinguished from independence as the latter is a pre-requisite to self-reliance and not predicated on its existence.
In other words, you need independence to act autonomously and to choose to be self-reliant, if you so wish. Yet it would seem, having watched various Unionist politicians and commentators struggle with the concept of independence, that it is necessary to provide a definition that can be easily understood. So I’ll have a go.
Can you spot what’s strange about this statement, viewers?
“We believe that the process of setting a single question should be taken out of the hands of elected politicians and given to relevant experts the public can have faith in.”
It comes from the mouth of Scottish Labour “leader” Johann Lamont, and forms part of her latest demand – along with her two partners in the Unionist coalition – that the Scottish Government should allow the defeated opposition parties to dictate the terms and conditions of the implementation of the flagship policy behind which it was so resoundingly and unprecedentedly elected a little over a year ago.
(Note in particular the sneaky way the overt demand also slips in a covert demand.)
We’re pretty sure that a general election is already, pretty much by definition, the primary means by which the public expresses who it does and doesn’t “have faith in”. We have, on the other hand, absolutely no way of knowing how much faith that same public does or doesn’t have in the ironically-unelected Electoral Commission, which is appointed by – who’d have guessed it? – the UK Parliament. And just by the by, below are a couple of other relevant snippets from the Commission’s Wikipedia entry:
“The Electoral Commission has a number of responsibilities in relation to referendums. These include:
commenting on the wording of the referendum question (the government is responsible for proposing the wording)
The Commission has no legal position in the legislation concerning referendums proposed by the devolved Scottish and Welsh administrations.”
Our emphasis, there. So, and we admit this is just a crazy madcap idea we’re putting out there, maybe the business of government should properly be conducted by the people the electorate have democratically chosen to do the job, no?
…is seeing Scotland taking its place in peace alongside the other independent nations of the world (at 2m 42s), courtesy of the heartwarming and ever-splendid Dancing Matt:
(Where The Hell Is Matt? 2008 is still our favourite, though.)
And so the phoney war rumbles on and gathers pace. The ‘No’ campaign – or whatever it decides to refer to itself as – will be unveiled shortly and we’ve heard (with a certain sense of deja vu) that the SNP has been debating the relative merits of the words “independenT” and “independenCE”. We have independence and Unionist groups galore appearing on Facebook and the web, we’ve got Cybernats and Britnats, republicans and monarchists, hawks and pacifists and goodness knows what else.
In the meantime, I still have the bills to pay, the washing to dry in the incessant rain, the mundane monotony of the “what’s for dinner?” conversations. Today a friend’s daughter is having a baby, while another lady I know has lost her best friend. The neverending cycle of joy and tears, grief and laughter rolls on.
Politicians would do well to stop and think about this – that away from Parliaments ordinary people are still living their everyday lives, and when we occasionally get to lift our noses from the grindstone we might appreciate a little passion from our politicians, a little honesty, some better research, and an end to the sniping and spin that threatens to suffocate the independence debate.
The current issue of Private Eye (which also features a fascinating full-page piece on Craig Whyte) relates news of another Labour dividend for the people of Glasgow – the decades-long neglect and imminent destruction of a much-loved green space. We’ve attached the story below for your convenience.
On the upside, though, we’re pretty sure we know where another large green space, which already comes with goalposts, is about to become available.
– Rangers fans are also going to boycott away games if penalties are imposed on the newco’s admission to the SPL. (Which seems to be an absolute certainty if they’re admitted at all.)
– Celtic fans are going to boycott away games at any club who votes Yes to admitting the newco (which would of necessity mean at least eight of the 12 teams in the league, possibly including Celtic).
– 54% of Celtic fans are going to boycott ALL games if New Rangers are admitted to the SPL. (A further 36% will boycott Rangers games only.)
– 56% of fans of the other 10 SPL teams will also boycott ALL games in those circumstances. (A further 34% will boycott Rangers games only.)
That seems to be pretty much everyone. As far as we can tell, if Rangers are playing in the SPL next season under Charles Green, the average 2012-13 SPL attendance is going to be about 250 people. We’re not sure Sky are going to be very happy.
After all, we can’t blame a Unionist conspiracy for the borderline-criminal trousers that Alex Salmond inexplicably chose to wear to the world premiere of Brave, and also on the Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson the same evening.
But we couldn’t help noticing an odd quote in The Scotsman’s report of the event, which the paper happily let end its story, forgetting to close the quotation marks as it did so. According to Kelly MacDonald, voice of the central character:
“She [Merida] is an adventurous tomboy and very happy young woman. The spell is broken when her mother says she has to get married and take on adult responsibilities. That’s when she takes things into her own hands and makes a mess of everything.“
We don’t even like the Doors, but we’re going to reference them twice in the first 30 words: this really is The End for Rangers FC. We’ve passed the evening absorbing and analysing the most recent developments in the saga, and as far as we can see they’re the last straw – there is now simply no remaining way back for the Ibrox club.
Tens of thousands of words have been written on the subject in newspapers and online this week alone, and tens of thousands more are going to follow, so we’ll make this as concise as humanly possible. These are the obstacles in the way of The (New) Rangers Football Club participating in Scottish football in season 2012-13 and beyond:
To be honest, on the evidence we’ve seen on the rare occasions when Labour lets its Scottish “leader” speak to the public, we’ve been left with the impression that it doesn’t take all that much to confuse her. At the weekly joust of First Minister’s Questions, Johann Lamont is frequently exposed as unable to adapt her script to Alex Salmond’s replies, often leaving her haplessly repeating the question that’s just been answered.
Even in that context, though, the quote attributed to her in today’s Daily Record in regard of the latest referendum poll is a dismaying one for anyone concerned about the standard of Scottish political debate. With the stage set by an earlier quote from a “source” in the No campaign flatly asserting that the reason for the drop in support for independence was “There is just too much uncertainty – over jobs, defence, even the currency – everything, basically”, Lamont gallumphed in with her 2p’s-worth:
“This shows that the more people hear the arguments, the more they see through the absurdities of Alex Salmond’s case for separation”
Hang on. Is it because people ARE hearing the arguments and being convinced against independence by them, or is it because there’s “too much uncertainty” and people just don’t know where they stand, so they’re erring on the side of caution? We’re reasonably sure it can’t be both, and look forward to “Better Together” getting its story straight. We have a sinking feeling that might not be any time soon, though.
An Ipsos-MORI poll in this morning’s Times has shown a small decrease in support for independence, with figures among those certain to vote running at 35% Yes (down 4%) to 55% No (up 5%). The poll was the first full-sample one conducted in several months, and asked respondents the Scottish Government’s favoured question, so it’s a sound enough survey, and the headline figures clearly aren’t great for nationalists.
What’s odd, though, is that most commentators seem to be treating it as evidence of a fundamental shift in the direction of opinion. The reality is that at this moment in time, these numbers are something close to miraculously good for the Yes camp.
We think our brains may have been completely fused by a story in today’s Daily Record, which is based around comments by Rutherglen Labour MSP James Kelly, pictured below in a scene from the particularly bad acid headache he’s just given us.
Here’s the bit that’s been making our minds spin round and round and round in circles this morning until we’re dizzy trying to make sense of it:
“ALEX Salmond was accused of “double standards” yesterday over his efforts to woo Rupert Murdoch. Labour raised further questions about the First Minister’s links with Murdoch following claims the media mogul lobbied Tony Blair to wage war in Iraq.
Former spin doctor Alastair Campbell said in the latest volume of his memoirs that Blair “took a call from Murdoch who was pressing on timings, saying how News International would support us, etc”.
Salmond won plaudits across Scotland for his outspoken opposition to the war which he described as “the most disastrous foreign policy decision of recent times”. But it did not stop him from trying to get closer to Murdoch to win The Sun newspaper’s backing for the SNP.
Labour MSP and chief whip James Kelly said: “This could make the conversation a little uncomfortable the next time Alex Salmond has Rupert Murdoch round to Bute House for tea and biscuits. Alex Salmond was against the Iraq war but that didn’t stop him cosying up to Rupert Murdoch. This is classic double standards from Alex Salmond who is prepared to put his party’s interests ahead of any issue.””
Let’s try to talk our way through this slowly: LABOUR is attacking the SNP for not being sufficiently critical of RUPERT MURDOCH when he backed LABOUR Prime Minister TONY BLAIR over going to war in IRAQ in 2003? What, seriously?
That can’t really be it, can it? Labour, who instigated the illegal war that left hundreds of thousands dead, attacking an opposition party who voted against that war (and which actually tried to impeach Blair for it) for not being critical enough of a newspaper proprietor whose papers enthusiastically backed Labour at the time and who made Tony Blair godfather to one of his children, because when subsequently in government it had a couple of meetings with that newspaper proprietor (also one of Scotland’s largest private-sector employers) the best part of a decade later?
Are we dreaming this stuff? Please tell us we’re dreaming it.
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James Che on Faces In Sand: “North code, I like the phrasing you used, So what would or could Westminster actually do or achieve if it…” Oct 22, 15:21
sarah on Faces In Sand: “Rev, will the gathering that you attended in London last night that included Maya Forstater and other like-minded people, be…” Oct 22, 14:24
Northcode on Faces In Sand: “The point you’re making would apply in situations where a people are actually colonised. But Scotland isn’t a colony, and…” Oct 22, 14:22
Northcode on Faces In Sand: “The borders between England, Scotland, and Wales mark historic countries within a single sovereign state. England, Scotland, and Wales are…” Oct 22, 14:13
Aidan on Faces In Sand: “If you’re upset with the company Geri – you could always post the same stuff under your own name on…” Oct 22, 13:55
Northcode on Faces In Sand: “Alf – I wrote that Scotland currently has full civil rights. I didn’t mention human rights at all. You shifted…” Oct 22, 13:53
James on Faces In Sand: “Here we go again. *sigh* Today’s crossword clue A country which has no control over its own borders, resources, broadcast…” Oct 22, 13:48
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Geri on Faces In Sand: “Aye Dan.. You’ve just reminded me why I gave up on here. It’s a mystery why so many fucking fuds…” Oct 22, 13:04
Alf Baird on Faces In Sand: “Democracy can only exist once a colonized people are outside the firm grip of the oppressor and his colonial administrators…” Oct 22, 13:04
Aidan on Faces In Sand: ““Liberation Scotland has been visiting the United Nations Human Rights Council in Geneva to present violations to our human rights,…” Oct 22, 12:14
Northcode on Faces In Sand: “Historical treaty grievances don’t change how sovereignty works today. Modern international bodies don’t adjudicate 18th-century constitutional arrangements. They respond to…” Oct 22, 12:12
Northcode on Faces In Sand: “Alf — human rights concerns can and should be raised wherever people feel they’re not being heard. But even when…” Oct 22, 12:05
James Che on Faces In Sand: “North Code, The UN and the law on treaties would have to consider Scotlands claim that there is no such…” Oct 22, 11:41
Geri on Faces In Sand: “Just a few suggestions of why .. 24/7 pumped propaganda. CIA NGOs littering the place pretending to be charitee. CIA…” Oct 22, 11:36
Aidan on Faces In Sand: “Except I haven’t used AI in any of what I wrote above, I’ve simply used the autotrader app to do…” Oct 22, 11:26
Alf Baird on Faces In Sand: ““Scotland currently has: – full civil rights” Dinna be daft. Liberation Scotland has been visiting the United Nations Human Rights…” Oct 22, 11:19
James Che on Faces In Sand: “North Code, The UN cannot declare Scotland is a Colony, It may be outside their remit, But nor can they…” Oct 22, 11:14
Dan on Faces In Sand: “Test. There’s a post for you waiting in moderation…” Oct 22, 11:10
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Captain Caveman on Faces In Sand: “” There is no democracy possible for a people whose territory has been alienated” World history is littered with clear…” Oct 22, 10:48
Dan on Faces In Sand: “You can call bollocks all you want, but the reality is I have worked in and around the automotive industry…” Oct 22, 10:44
Northcode on Faces In Sand: “Alf — I understand the argument you’re making, but the point I’m raising sits at a different level. Territorial alienation,…” Oct 22, 10:42
Captain Caveman on Faces In Sand: “Good post, Northy. Credit where it’s due.” Oct 22, 10:37
James Che on Faces In Sand: “The Westminster parliament for England and Wales, the westminster parliament for Great Britain, and the Anglo Irish Westminster parliament of…” Oct 22, 10:32
Hatey McHateface on Faces In Sand: “On the plus side, we now know ScotGov can write. Maybe they’re already harnessing the power of AI.” Oct 22, 10:18
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Alf Baird on Faces In Sand: ““the only real path to independence is democratic legitimacy” There is no democracy possible for a people whose territory has…” Oct 22, 10:12