Johann Lamont thinks these people want something for nothing. Ruth Davidson thinks they’re a burden on society. Willie Rennie is prepared to sacrifice them for a couple of token tax hikes on rich people. All three think nuclear weapons are a better use of Scotland’s money than looking after our people. Make your own decision.
Scotland Tonight and Newsnight Scotland both ran fairly decent shows last night leading with the issue of Trident and its replacement, but the most telling contribution to the debate came from the long-standing Labour columnist Polly Toynbee. In a frank and direct piece for the Guardian, Toynbee analysed the politics rather than the economic or defence arguments, and concurred with something this site and others have been saying for almost a year:
“We know where everyone stands – except Labour.”
But it’s just after that line where Toynbee drops the real bomb:
“Some in Labour are nuclear-heads because they occupy seats such as John Woodcock’s Barrow, a one-industry town dependent on defence. Others are nuclear out of strong conviction a unilateralist Labour would be dead at the polls. Probably no one in Labour actually believes we need a Trident replacement for national defence – only for political defence of Labour.“
It’s become fashionable in recent months to put forward the argument that the Scottish electorate isn’t as different to the English one as we often like to portray. There’s certainly a core sliver of truth to that, with the Scottish political spectrum slightly distorted by votes for the left-of-centre SNP that may be at least partly more to do with their competence – compared to an embarrassingly useless opposition – than with Scots being ragingly socialist.
But there are still specific issues where Scots consistently poll to the left of England and the rest of the UK. Welfare is one, and Trident is another. Whether that’s based on a deep moral opposition to the concept of nuclear weapons or merely the fact that it’s our backyard they’re parked in is a matter for conjecture. But the SNP can’t be accused of populist opportunism on the issue, because they’ve been solidly committed to an anti-nuclear platform since the day the first Polaris submarine sailed up the Clyde over 50 years ago.
Labour, on the other hand, are so dizzy from trying to face in every direction at once on the issue that their Scottish “leader” refuses to even say what her personal position is, let alone what she’d do were she to somehow, God forbid, find herself the First Minister of an independent Scotland.
Toynbee’s explosive column openly acknowledges the truth: the £83bn cost of Trident (and the reality, demonstrated over decades, is that it will in fact be several times that) is, as far as Labour are concerned, an expenditure primarily aimed at getting themselves elected. Not that they’ll pay for it – you and I, the gullible taxpayer – will pick up the tab, and the sick and the poor and the vulnerable will be the ones to suffer from the huge hole it’ll leave in the budget.
Labour don’t want Trident because they think it protects the people of the UK, because even Tony Blair admitted it was worthless for that. They want it to protect themselves.
Most people, it seems fair to say, expected more resignations from the SNP over the NATO vote at conference just over a week ago. As passions ran high, some Scottish political journalists went so far as to name the next expected departure (supposedly list MSP John Wilson). Yet no more transpired, and it seems reasonable to suppose that any who were going to would have done it by now. So why haven’t they?
There are numerous possible explanations, of course. Perhaps everyone’s just calmed down after the heat of debate and accepted that they lost a democratic vote and independence is still more important than any single policy, or that it still represents a vastly better chance of a nuclear-free Scotland than staying in the Union. Perhaps nobody wanted to be singled out as the person who cost the party its majority in Holyrood, even if only technically.
But it occurred to us this morning, as we watched Scotland On Sunday embark on a determined and multi-pronged attempt to keep the EU-advice row alive in the minds of a largely-disinterested public, that it might instead be the case that Labour’s hysterical, overblown handling of the matter has served to concentrate SNP minds away from internal disagreements and on the wider good of the party, and to have them close ranks in protection of a First Minister who’s still by a distance the most popular and trusted politician in Scotland (if not the entire UK).
Napoleon famously once said “Never interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake.” Scottish Labour waded into Alex Salmond at a time when his party seemed in danger of being seriously split for the first time since he regained the leadership, and in doing so may well have pushed his dissenters back into line for him. Not for the first time, the FM may have cause to thank his opponents for the blind tribal hatred that so often seems to drive them into sheer blundering ineptitude.
The Scotsman reports today that the Lib Dems are prepared to accept Iain Duncan Smith’s proposals to limit child benefit and child tax credits to the first two children in a family, in return for some tax increases on the rich.
The plans, which echo China’s extraordinarily punitive “one child per family” laws, have caused a storm of controversy because of the obvious catastrophic impact they could have on some of the poorest and most vulnerable families in the country – costing them thousands of pounds a year – as well as the nightmare of bureaucracy and obvious cases of farcical unfairness that could and will result from them.
(What if you’ve worked all your life and have four children, then get made unexpectedly redundant or become ill? Are you supposed to put your two most expensive kids into care because you can no longer afford to feed all of them? What if you already have one child and fall pregnant with what turns out to be twins or triplets? Do you have to pick your favourite and leave the others at the hospital? What if people ignore the changes and have children they can’t afford? Do we just let their kids die, saying “Hey, you knew the rules”? What if someone gets raped and can’t have a termination on religious grounds? Etc etc.)
Nevertheless, the Lib Dems have signalled their support, ensuring the policy will have a Parliamentary majority and be enacted. Some tax rates on the wealthy may be raised, and the rich will continue to get their accountants to find imaginative ways of avoiding paying that tax as usual. Even if additional tax revenues were to be raised by the measures, we’re not sure how that helps the starving extra children of the poor, since they won’t be getting any of the money.
It’s clear that the poor are going to continue to bear most of the burden of austerity. With this latest development following on from Scottish Labour’s recent abandonment of the principle of universal services, all three main Westminster parties and their subsidiaries north of the border are now fully committed to savage attacks on the welfare state. If you’re poor in the UK, it no longer matters who you vote for.
It’s nice to see some blue-sky thinking in the British government. These are difficult times and everything needs to be on the table for discussion, such as the decadent, indulgent luxury of letting old people retire.
Those are the words of Lord Bichard, a “crossbench” peer who has worked for both Labour and Tory governments and is the former head of the Benefits Agency. He’s suggesting, quite openly, that in the near future the UK’s old folk should have their pensions cut if they don’t keep working until they die. He thinks this an “imaginative idea”, necessary because we must “cut the costs of an ageing society”.
We hesitate to suggest that one way to cut the costs of an ageing society might be to reduce the size of the pension paid to Lord Bichard, which at a cosy £120,000 a year could probably stand a little trimming. (His Lordship retired at the grand old age of 53, so we’ll be paying it for a long time.) Nevertheless, we thank the noble peer for giving us another indicator of what the future holds for the people of Scotland should they choose to remain part of the UK. Decision time in two years and counting.
The Scottish media is in full-on outcry mode at the Scottish Government for keeping things from the Scottish people with regard to the possible status of the country’s EU membership status in the event of independence, and to be fair it’s quite understandable when you read official statements like this:
“Whilst there is a strong public interest in seeing what legal advice has been provided to the Government on the implications of EU membership if Scotland were to achieve independence, we have concluded that this is outweighed by a strong public interest in the Government being able to seek free and frank legal advice.”
Of course, in the spirit of Scottish Labour’s creative editing of the First Minister’s words yesterday, we’ve deftly removed a word from that sentence so that it suits our purposes better. Specifically, in between “has been provided to the” and “Government”, we’ve removed the word “UK”.
We’re really not sure how the UK government’s actions differ in any way from those of the Scottish Government in respect of the same issue, particularly when a Scottish Office minister goes on to add that “I have not received formal representations on the possible status of an independent Scotland within the EU.”
It would seem, to the casual observer, that in both cases the respective governments have declined to seek out specific legal advice about an independent Scotland’s EU status, but have sought to conceal that information (or lack of information) from voters on the grounds that confidentiality ensures the government receives candid expert advice undistorted by public opinion.
So perhaps someone can explain to us why only one of them is currently subject to a huge nationwide media storm about it.
It’s not like we didn’t already know that, of course. But while Labour desperately distort and edit Alex Salmond’s words to try to justify an allegation of untruth, ably assisted by the Scottish media doing the same to Nicola Sturgeon by cutting her microphone when she attempted to answer questions on the subject, their Scottish leader – sorry, “deputy” leader – quietly gets on with doing what he does best: telling outright, unambiguous, empirical lies.
We’ll let the veteran Scottish journalist George Kerevan (a former Scotsman editor, Labour councillor and SNP candidate), who did all the hard work of digging out the stats, tell you all about it. But here’s a quote from the piece just for flavour.
“Following the publication of the latest official employment figures on 17 October, Anas Sarwar announced to the BBC: “In the last three months, 7,000 people in Scotland have lost their jobs while employment in the rest of the UK is going up – this SNP government has to start taking responsibility for that”.
Mr Sarwar is factually wrong.
The figures published by the Office of National Statistics (ONS) do not say that 7,000 people “have lost their jobs” in the period June through August (i.e. the summer).
It is true that the figure for the total jobless rose by 7,000 to 222,000. But most of that 7,000 figure has nothing to do with people losing their jobs, as Mr Sarwar claims. Rather, it is due to young people joining the labour market from school of university, which is normal in the summer. And from people previously not looking for work returning to the labour market – usually a positive sign of returning economic confidence.
The ONS figures actually show that the fall in the number of jobs in the Scottish economy of the summer was only 1,000. Certainly that is going in the wrong direction. But it does not help policy analysis to misquote the true figures, or exaggerate actual job losses by a factor of seven.”
We look forward keenly to the media reporting Mr Sarwar’s lie, and grilling him on Newsnight Scotland about it while muting his replies.
It’s not hard to follow – the FM refers expressly and clearly to legal opinions which had been sought with regard to documents which have been published supporting the Scottish Government’s view of EU membership. The Deputy FM does exactly the same thing (“previously cited”). Neither refers to any unpublished legal advice.
The FoI request specifically concerned unpublished advice – if it had been published, after all, there’d have been no need for an FoI request in the first place. There is therefore no contradiction between the FM and Deputy FM’s accounts. It’s that simple.
We’re going to be pretty brief on this one, because it’s literally a story about nothing. The Scottish Government has just revealed, after a long back-and-forth battle over a Freedom Of Information request, that it hasn’t sought the advice of law officers over an independent Scotland’s membership of the EU.
Expect much fuss in the Scottish press tomorrow, although the SNP cunningly releasing the advice on the same day as the resignation of two MSPs will give editors and frothing columnists a headache over which to concentrate on. (There’s also the small matter of the referendum consultation results being published.)
But where’s the meat here? We genuinely don’t get it.
We should probably prepare for a mainstream media blitz today and tomorrow on the breaking news that two SNP MSPs have apparently resigned from the party over the NATO vote at last week’s conference. We have no criticism of John Finnie and Jean Urquhart for doing so, although some will surely call it sour grapes at losing a democratically-debated vote. We don’t agree with any such attacks – both stood for election as members of a party that opposed Scottish membership of NATO, and they’re absolutely entitled to leave the party if it reverses that position.
We also don’t believe that either should stand down and trigger a by-election. They still stand for the policies on which they won the electorate’s votes. (Nor, however, should SNP MSPs who voted for the new policy stand down as a result of the change. NATO membership is not currently a power within the Scottish Parliament’s remit, and as such the policy is irrelevant to anything that happens at Holyrood.)
However, in the avalanche of overheated analysis that’s likely to appear in the next 24 hours – not just in the professional media but also in the shoutier areas of the left-wing blogosphere – it’s worth keeping hold of some perspective.
James Barr Gardner on Spot The Problem: “https://www.google.com/url?esrc=s&q=&rct=j&sa=U&url=https://handbook.fca.org.uk/handbook/fcg6&ved=2ahUKEwjtoueTz8GWAxWcWUEAHesdBM4QFnoECAUQAg&usg=AOvVaw0Uq372Zk8zIhKKGuz2zL81 Remember the SNP are a COMPANY !” Aug 27, 21:16
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gm on Spot The Problem: “I am no longer living in hope.” Aug 27, 21:03
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Dan on Spot The Problem: “Spartan 117 says: at 6:13 pm “A good analogy, except for the unavoidable fact that it’s our own fellow Scots…” Aug 27, 20:48
Hatey McHateface on Spot The Problem: “C’moan, Marie! Spill the beans. Dinna be leaving us hanging. If they believed you were important enough to “neutralise” they…” Aug 27, 20:46
Saffron Robe on You’ll Have Had Your Supper: “Scotland will never flourish under the Union because it is an enforced dependency; a suppression of natural development. A country…” Aug 27, 20:30
willie on Spot The Problem: “To change the dial a tad I’ve just been watching the horrendous pictures of the Himalaya floods arising from melting…” Aug 27, 20:26
gm on Spot The Problem: “This thing we call a parliament needs to be closed down. It will deny the political class in Scotland and…” Aug 27, 20:25
Spartan 117 on Spot The Problem: “Robert @ 6:33pm I would not be surprised if the M25 omniclusterfuckpermashambles was involved in some way, even if they…” Aug 27, 20:19
Marie on Spot The Problem: “ALL of them are “crooks” Red. Any budding politician with courage or conviction is dispensed with long before the candidate…” Aug 27, 20:16
Spartan 117 on Spot The Problem: ““You’re on speed, right?” Me or Alf? Can’t speak for the Prof but for me it’s worse. I’m autistic…” Aug 27, 20:15
Spartan 117 on Spot The Problem: “A good post Red, summing up why things are the way they are. It’s not “Colonialism” or “They Inglish” (by…” Aug 27, 20:14
Hatey McHateface on Spot The Problem: “Goalposts shifted again. So the Scottish Government could dismiss the Lord Advocate. But the Scottish Government would just appoint a…” Aug 27, 19:53
Northcode on Spot The Problem: “The Lord Advocate is also a government minister and serves as the principal legal adviser to the Scottish Government and…” Aug 27, 19:37
Hatey McHateface on Spot The Problem: “That’s a wonderful gift you have there, Bob. Stamp your foot, wrinkle your nose, and you can transport yourself backwards…” Aug 27, 19:29
Red on Spot The Problem: “If you didn’t laugh you’d cry Hayley 🙂” Aug 27, 19:22
Hatey McHateface on Spot The Problem: ““the colonizer hates theory’ (Memmi), which means the colonizer hates the truth” “Theory and truth are not the same thing”…” Aug 27, 19:17
Hatey McHateface on Spot The Problem: “OK, Northy, so now you’re saying: 1. The LA is part of (an appointee of) the Scottish Government. 2. A…” Aug 27, 19:02
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Hatey McHateface on Spot The Problem: ““she achieved nothing in government except to make things worse” Ah, c’moan noo, Red. How can you have forgotten the…” Aug 27, 18:50
James on Spot The Problem: “You’re on speed, right?” Aug 27, 18:47
Hatey McHateface on Spot The Problem: “You need to grow up, Bob. The adults have forgiven far worse people for far worse things far more recently.…” Aug 27, 18:37
robertkknight on Spot The Problem: “Spartan… Back to the here and now, and irrespective of the useful idiots with Scottish accents, of which there are…” Aug 27, 18:33
Red on Spot The Problem: “You’ve got to ask yourself, why is Nicola Sturgeon being protected like this? She’s not clever, she’s not charismatic, she…” Aug 27, 18:29
Alf Baird on Spot The Problem: ““And we would have been forever denied my favourite, the “cheese” quote.” Dinna forget Fanon’s prediction that a national party…” Aug 27, 18:29
Northcode on Spot The Problem: ““It’s not the only option.” Legally, it is the only option. The Scotland Act 1998 provides for a single legal…” Aug 27, 18:26
Spartan 117 on Spot The Problem: “A good analogy, except for the unavoidable fact that it’s our own fellow Scots who are entirely at fault here,…” Aug 27, 18:13
agentx on Spot The Problem: ““James Che says: 27 August, 2026 at 3:20 pm The referral to the Supreme court is under the Crown of…” Aug 27, 18:10