The reliably-wise Stephen Bush of The New Statesman said something perceptive yesterday on the subject of an EU referendum, although it applies much more widely.
It’s a view we’ve held for many years, most often in relation to UK governments ruling with huge majorities won on pretty tiddly pluralities of the vote (often in the mid-30%s), where the bulk of the electorate has no defence against a party it didn’t vote for.
Despite an electoral system that makes such events far rarer, the phenomenon crops up a lot in Scotland too, and both sides are guilty, often on the same subject. Scottish employment figures, for example, alternate with almost metronomic regularity between being higher/lower than those in the rest of the UK, and whichever it is in any given month one side or the other will trumpet it as conclusive and permanent proof that Scotland’s governance is better/worse than that of London.
(Even though Holyrood in fact has almost no power over the economy, so deserves little of either the blame or credit, whichever applies that month.)
The Scottish media has today leapt all over the front-page lead story from yesterday’s Sunday Times, in which “top economist” Douglas McWilliams of right-wing thinktank the Centre for Economics and Business Research made an apocalyptic prediction of a huge deficit turning an independent Scotland into “a Third World country”.
The Express’ customarily restrained coverage is pretty typical.
We wondered if Mr McWilliams used to have a more optimistic view.
The one great pillar of the argument against Scottish independence – greater than not being allowed into the EU, greater than being forced to barter with beads and potatoes because we wouldn’t have a currency, greater than losing Doctor Who or having the Chinese take their pandas back – is the economy.
Scotland is far too wee and too poor to be independent, they say – while indignantly denying that they’re saying it – because we only survive now thanks to a vast bailout every year from the rest of the UK, by which they in fact mean England. (Because it’s sure as heck not coming from Wales or Northern Ireland, which by any measure you care to choose are far poorer than Scotland.)
The name and size of this bailout vary wildly. Sometimes it’s a “deficit”, sometimes it’s a “black hole”, sometimes it’s a “fiscal transfer”, and it can be £8bn, £9bn, £10bn, £15bn, £28bn, £32bn or any other figure up to a hundred and eleventy thousand million bajillion squillion depending on who you’re talking to.
(The last one’s probably either David Coburn or Jackie Baillie.)
And while there are a dozen separate and compelling reasons why that argument is complete rubbish, none of them have any traction with diehard Unionists determined to believe that one of the richest and most blessed nations on Earth couldn’t possibly manage its own affairs like, say, Latvia or Ireland or Kuwait or Slovakia can.
But it turns out there IS a – surprisingly simple – way to get Unionists to categorically deny that England subsidises Scotland. You just have to ask them.
The votes for “God Save The Queen” being driven by Tories, English-born residents and supporters of a particular football club probably won’t come as the biggest shock in the world to anyone.
(Alert viewers will of course have noticed that due to MI5 INTERFERENCE in the poll, there were actually two votes for Hoots Mon, which have been suspiciously rounded down to one. We are conducting an investigation, by which we mean brutal purge.)
Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson managed to make a bit of a balloon of herself earlier this month when she contrived to get THREE fairly key facts wrong in a single tweet about a poll on a second independence referendum.
(We’re not sure who the guy in the picture with her is. Probably a colleague.)
We suspected the reason she’d so badly misunderstood the data was that there were two options for “have another indyref in the next two years” and only one for “don’t have another indyref”, so when we were putting our latest poll together we thought we’d try to make it easier for her by having an equal number on both sides.
There’s a nice piece in today’s Scottish Sun about one of the findings of our newest Panelbase poll, on who was Scotland’s all-time best First Minister.
We thought you’d want a more detailed look at the data behind it.
There were no surprises in our latest Panelbase poll with regard to the independence question, at least not in terms of the headline figures – in line with a flurry of recent polls they came out at Yes 46% No 54%, with 2016’s Brexit vote seemingly having caused almost equal numbers of people to change sides since 2014.
But as readers will know, we usually like to probe a little bit deeper into the thoughts of our respondents than other media do, so we asked a few more questions on the subject. And the results of that were just plain weird.
DaveL on The Idiot Rodeo: “1 I’m referring to the two of you as stated earlier, as a moron you lost track. 2 ‘take’ is…” Dec 18, 09:42
Northcode on The Idiot Rodeo: ““Sae twa questions an we’re done…” Answers: 1: Look in the mirror. 2: Maist likely up the arse in the…” Dec 18, 09:41
Northcode on The Idiot Rodeo: ““Both of you will still be unionist morons…” I suspect that DaveL is correct and that his statement above could…” Dec 18, 09:28
Aidan on The Idiot Rodeo: “Dan doesn’t like the tram, well there is a surprise that nobody could have anticipated! But hey if they hadn’t…” Dec 18, 09:28
Hatey McHateface on The Idiot Rodeo: “You’ll hae missed yer bus noo, Dave. Ah’m obviously tempted tae keep you in all day, glued tae yer device,…” Dec 18, 09:21
Northcode on The Idiot Rodeo: ““You must be Rev Stu…Pleased and honoured to make your acquaintance at long last.” Sycophantic soukin sucks… it makes me…” Dec 18, 09:19
Northcode on The Idiot Rodeo: “René Descartes was a Frenchman…so he wid hiv maist likely said: “Mauvais chien! Range-le!,” said Descartes. I am never done…” Dec 18, 09:15
DaveL on The Idiot Rodeo: “You can repeat all you like, you’re still morons and you can still fuck off. (See fit ah did there…” Dec 18, 09:04
Hatey McHateface on The Idiot Rodeo: “Whoops! My bad. Thon Descartes boy would obviously have said “Bad dug! Pit it awa!” Apologies for any confusion arising…” Dec 18, 08:54
Northcode on The Idiot Rodeo: ““Oh, what bitterness cleaves to envy’s sting!” Guid mornyng fowks… a houp aw ye indigenous Scots and fellow Picts oot…” Dec 18, 08:54
Hatey McHateface on The Idiot Rodeo: “You must be Rev Stu. Pleased and honoured to make your acquaintance at long last. (See fit Ah did there,…” Dec 18, 08:46
Hatey McHateface on The Idiot Rodeo: “What you really saying there then, Dan? The trams were forced on us by the colonialists in Westminster? Every single…” Dec 18, 08:39
DaveL on The Idiot Rodeo: “Fuck off. It’s a fact I just said that and it’s a logical thing to say because you’re still fucking…” Dec 18, 08:37
Hatey McHateface on The Idiot Rodeo: “Socks oan yer feet, Northy, richt this meenit. And mind fit thon Descartes boy said: “Hatey’s still reading your posts,…” Dec 18, 08:15
Hatey McHateface on The Idiot Rodeo: “Facts are neither logical nor illogical, Dave. They simply are. Educate yourself, dude.” Dec 18, 08:00
Hatey McHateface on The Idiot Rodeo: “Wow, Fearghas, our ancestors certainly knew a thing or two about standing on their own two feet, both individually and…” Dec 18, 07:56
Mark Beggan on The Idiot Rodeo: “So another day of the Lefty colonial rant in bed with their death cult chums. Bankrolled to shout in the…” Dec 18, 07:01
Northcode on The Idiot Rodeo: “I made a typo. “It’s comedy is most darkly lit…”: should read: “Its comedy is most darkly lit…” Although, I…” Dec 17, 23:29
Northcode on The Idiot Rodeo: ““Oh, what bitterness cleaves to envy’s sting!” – Dante Alighieri The Union is a monstrous joke, and very far from…” Dec 17, 22:34
Fearghas MacFhionnlaigh on The Idiot Rodeo: “Excerpt from Paul Henderson Scott’s book entitled: ANDREW FLETCHER AND THE TREATY OF UNION « A whole succession of events…” Dec 17, 22:26
Fearghas MacFhionnlaigh on The Idiot Rodeo: “Maybe relevant to draw attention to the book: ‘SCOTLAND’S RUINE’ : LOCKHART OF CARNWATH’S MEMOIRS OF THE UNION (Edited by…” Dec 17, 22:18
DaveL on The Idiot Rodeo: “Both of you will still be unionist morons, so no change there then. That’s not an assumption either, that’s a…” Dec 17, 21:48
Lorncal on The Idiot Rodeo: “Every law that passes in the Westminster parliament must be passed by a majority of Scottish MPs to become Scottish…” Dec 17, 21:13
Alf Baird on The Idiot Rodeo: ““Aidan bigging up Auld Reekie and the trams!” Aye, anither ‘new Scot’ that disna ken hee haw aboot Auld Reekie…” Dec 17, 20:48
Dan on The Idiot Rodeo: “FFS, just noticed Aidan bigging up Auld Reekie and the trams! Jeezo, yet another ill thought out transport clusterfuck reckoned…” Dec 17, 20:24
Hatey McHateface on The Idiot Rodeo: “Why? What’s he done wrong?” Dec 17, 20:13
Hatey McHateface on The Idiot Rodeo: “It’s a secret. Sorry.” Dec 17, 20:07
Hatey McHateface on The Idiot Rodeo: “FFS Beggan. Round and round the rugged rock the ragged rascal ran.” Dec 17, 20:05
Fearghas MacFhionnlaigh on The Idiot Rodeo: “SECRET RECEIPTS that influenced UNION WITH IRELAND | David Olusoga 3 mins video www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzW0GeoO3Ig” Dec 17, 20:01
Hatey McHateface on The Idiot Rodeo: “Looks like it falls to me to once again validate your miserable existence, Northy. Weel done. Guid dug. Here’s a…” Dec 17, 19:59