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First Do No Harm

Posted on January 15, 2024 by

We make no apology for returning once again to the depressing subject of the Scottish Government’s proposed new law to ban “conversion practices”, because it provides such an illuminating microcosm of how far a once competent and widely-respected administration has fallen since 2015.

Emma Roddick, who is piloting the bill towards the statute books in much the same way that Mohamed Atta piloted American Airlines Flight 11 towards the World Trade Centre, is a 26-year-old who by her own admission suffers from a serious and debilitating mental illness that any sane country would regard as an insurmountable bar to political office.

The particular symptoms of Borderline Personality Disorder could barely be any more spectacularly obviously unsuitable for a lawmaker at any level:

Yet the SNP saw fit not only to disregard all those warning flags but to change its own selection rules in order to parachute Roddick to the top of the North East Scotland regional list specifically BECAUSE of her disability, and make her an MSP at an age the Scottish Government does not consider to constitute full adulthood, to the extent that it’s willing to spare rapists prison sentences because they’re too young to be fully responsible for their actions.

Her first action as an MSP was to attract ridicule by whining about how anyone on a £65,000 salary could possibly be expected to live (and “spend money like an MSP”) for a month before their first paycheque arrived – as if anyone in any job on any wage got paid in advance.

(We’re not sure why she didn’t tap Peter Murrell for a loan – he’s loaded, very willing to fling his cash around and not too fussed about getting it back.)

But undeterred, the SNP then fast-tracked her into a ministerial position. We were going to say that the absolute trainwreck of the “conversion practices” proposals was the result, but actually that would be unfair to Roddick, because while they’re a horrific mess that’s in no way an exception to the general standard of legislation brought to Holyrood in the last nine years.

However, it’s as good an example as any, so let’s take a closer look.

The paper gets off to a bad start.

So immediately we don’t even know what we’re trying to outlaw. But at least we have a clear picture of how big the problem is and how many people are affected, right?

Oh.

Alert, if needlessly cruel, readers may at this point be noting that the document uses figures for Scotland’s LGB population taken from a 2019 survey, rather than what one might expect would be more reliable and up-to-date figures from the 2021 census.

They may perhaps also recollect that that’s because the Scottish Government couldn’t even manage to conduct a basic headcount without making such an unholy pig’s dinner of it that its statistics cannot be relied upon.

And the document further admits that the Scottish Government has simply no idea at all of how many trans or non-binary people there are in Scotland, because it decoupled the Scottish census from the UK one which provided such numbers for the first time.

It therefore begins from a position of having to extrapolate some entirely hypothetical Scottish figures from those for England and Wales, even though those are themselves questionable and likely to have significantly overstated the reality.

So far, then, we don’t know what conversion practices are and we don’t know how many LGB or trans or non-binary people might be at risk from them. Excellent.

We’re then told that to estimate how MUCH of a risk this unknown proportion of the population may face, the Scottish Government has used a UK-wide survey of LGBT people conducted seven years ago, when by most assessments the number of trans people was far lower.

The National LGBT Survey polled a large but self-selecting and unweighted panel of respondents, immediately placing all sorts of qualifiers and warning flags on its statistical validity. But more concerningly, the questions about “conversion therapy” (as it was called in the survey) left the definition of the term to respondents themselves.

So the basis for the Scottish Government’s proposals is now an undefined term based on an unknown risk to unknown numbers of gay and trans people extrapolated from outdated data from other countries which itself was produced via scientifically-invalid statistics drawn from undefined questions to biased respondents.

(Although at the absolute MOST it appears to be a possible danger to 7% of the LGBT population, which is 2.7% of the country, and 7% of 2.7% is 0.18% of all Scots, or less than two in every thousand. If you then start factoring in how few of those weren’t already protected by existing legislation, the numbers verge on zero.)

Or in other words, it was already an out-of-control binfire even before an unqualified, inexperienced, unstable, incoherent halfwit like Emma Roddick was put in charge of it.

But don’t worry, folks – there’s no mess so big she can’t still make it worse.

Oh good. Now we can’t even define “gender identity” itself – one of the two categories the legislation exists to protect. The Minister’s best guess, though, is that it’s something to do with dresses and make-up.

And let’s remember, we already know that Roddick thinks “sex” and “gender” are interchangeable terms (see the first pic in this article), which is contrary to what every trans organisation insists is the case, and more importantly also contrary to Lady Dorrian’s recent key legal ruling on the subject.

And since Roddick thinks there are “many” genders, that must therefore mean she also thinks there are “many” sexes, and we await agog to hear her name the others.

(The current Stonewall-approved guidance that’s being given to most schools in the UK and taught to pupils, meanwhile, states that there are in fact only two genders – “THE other”, singular, not “AN other”.)

The document itself appears to both support and contradict this position within a single paragraph, implying that there are only two sexes but multiple genders, of which people can belong to more than one at the same time – in other words, that sex and gender are NOT interchangeable terms, despite the Minister in charge asserting that they are. So that’s reassuring. Sort of.

The other implication of Lady Dorrian’s ruling, as we’ve previously noted, is that the act of transitioning intrinsically and inescapably – for legal purposes at least – DOES change someone’s sexuality. If a transwoman is a woman, then a heterosexual male becoming a “trans lesbian” has changed from straight to gay, and anyone who contributed to or encouraged their transition has probably undertaken unlawful “conversion practices”.

(Particularly as consent is not an allowable defence, as we’ll see later on.)

Readers, we’re still only in the “Background” section of the draft proposals. We haven’t even actually started yet. So let’s fast-forward to what the plan is.

Apparently we’re going to “provide clarity” and “send a clear, unambiguous message” with a law that can’t define a single one of the terms it’s relying on. Good luck with that. But let’s focus on the last of those bullet points for a moment.

How are we going to stop parents from being criminalised for parenting, or for just having concerned conversations with their children? What safeguards are proposed?

So you can guide people, but not in a direction that leads them to change anything? What? How does that work?

If you don’t want your child to transition, for all of a hundred obvious reasons based on their mental and physical health and welfare, or perhaps because you think they’re just the victims of social contagion or pressure, and you talk with them to dissuade them, that must surely count as intention to change or suppress?

The document simply waves this contradiction away.

It goes on to elaborate:

But as Alex Massie noted in the Times at the weekend, some of those are pretty much a textbook definition of the responsibilities of parenting. And it gets more absurd:

Sorry, what? How do gay people dress? What activities are “considered to be linked to” being transgender or non-binary? Does going to see the Barbie movie count? We’re having flashbacks to that episode of The Day Today identifying which motorways, chemical elements, walls and seas were homosexual.

(30 years ago, it’s our grave and dismaying duty to inform you.)

It’s very hard to reconcile the protection afforded to “gender critical” views in the Equality Act 2010 (clearly established by the Maya Forstater case and subsequently reinforced by others) and the legal responsibility of parents to safeguard the welfare of their children with the proposals to criminalise the meaningful exercise of those views and responsibilities.

This is particularly the case if you aim to criminalise taking a person out of Scotland to somewhere else in the UK with the intent of facilitating treatment or activities which might be perfectly legal in the rest of the UK and governed by reserved UK law.

It is very difficult to see how any such attempted legislation could fail to be susceptible to an intervention under Section 35 of the Scotland Act in exactly the same way the Gender Recognition Reform Act did.

The Scottish Government has attempted to find a sneaky way out of this by saying that getting “conversion” treatment outside Scotland won’t be a crime – it’ll be the travelling from Scotland that’s the offence.

That in itself opens up a whole new can of worms in terms of restriction of movement and how it could possibly be policed, but let’s not make things any more complicated right now.

With the proposals already facing a barrage of criticism from a wide range of sources, the document is at pains to defensively insist that only “harmful” practices will be outlawed. The word “harm” appears 131 times across its pages.

But what is “harm”? According to the document it includes “fear, alarm and distress”.

As anyone who’s ever met or been a child will confirm, “distress” is a pretty low bar. If you hurt your teenager’s feelings by saying “You’re not going out looking like that, young man/lady”, they’re quite likely going to be distressed about it. Is that therefore “psychological harm” and thereby an imprisonable criminal offence?

[PLEASE NOTE: The preceding sentence included generic notation. We do not advise calling your child “Young man/lady”, as this may be non-binary-phobic.]

In 21st-century Scotland, would Philip Larkin have been arrested as a hateful thought-criminal, not just describing but arguably advocating genocide?

It has already been widely noted, of course, that despite paying lip service to the idea of the new law being ideologically neutral, the real intention is clearly anything but. To this end, the document makes explicit that converting “cis” people to “trans” ones will NOT be an offence, even if it involves irreversible hormone treatment and/or surgical mutilation of their otherwise-healthy bodies.

That would be classed as simply “aligning” their physical characteristics with their “gender identity” – a correction, we must assume, of Nature’s mistake, for the Scottish Government is a force superior to Nature.

(It would seem somewhat rude to bring up the absence of any definition of “gender identity” in the proposals again.)

This is highlighted in the section dealing with the defence of consent.

What’s most interesting about this is that – as with the GRR before it – the proposal basically refuses to acknowledge the existence of detransitioners.

Despite countless examples, the most famous probably being that of Keira Bell, paragraph 132 essentially refuses to believe that anyone who changes gender could ever want to go back, and implicit in the entire document is the fact that anyone who assisted them in reverting to their original sex and/or gender would be committing a serious crime for which there would be no legal defence at all.

Under these proposals, no matter how young or vulnerable they’d been at the time, no child who had once been permitted to “transition” would ever have a lawful route back. They would be imprisoned in their false gender by the state forever.

(Indeed, if the GRR should ever come into force, the person themselves would also face a two-year jail term for having made a false declaration.)

The ostensible safeguards in the document requiring the presence of “coercion” for the threshold of criminality to be reached – and on which the whole shooting match is premised – are therefore impossible to practically define, in the absence of any possibility of consent.

If nobody can ever consent, then everything is coercive by definition.

In short, and in keeping with a dismayingly long list of Scottish Government legislation, the draft proposals regarding “conversion practices” appear to have been penned by incompetent morons under the direction of witless cretins.

For the reasons above and countless others – this already-long article could have easily been twice the size – Wings Over Scotland does not believe these proposals will ever become law in Scotland. Nevertheless, we fully expect the Scottish Government to waste years and millions of pounds attempting to realise them before they finally fail.

The justification for that, as helpfully outlined by former SNP councillor Mhairi Hunter last night, is that any vote you can swindle out of an uninformed voter is regarded by the party as a carte blanche for anything they want to do for the next five years, regardless of whether it has public support.

But until such times, this site will do its very best to ensure that no voter has any excuse to be uninformed about this inept, idiotic and dangerous bill.

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  1. David Hannah
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    Section 35 the f*ck out of this bill incoming… And then section Emma Roddick in a mental institution I say. It’s time to bring back lobotomisation for SNP MSPs and MPs.

    Stick your conversation therapy bill up you arse Emma!

  2. Dorothy Devine
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    David Hannah, I thought they had been lobotomized already.

    What a bunch of piffling, anti science ordure.

  3. David Hannah
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    Emma Roddick. She’s Coo-Coo. Padded cell and straight jacket required. She should be locked away. How dare they even consider being this absolute shit to Holyrood and wasting Parliamentary time.

    Get yourselves to fuck SNP SCUM. Humza out now. YOU WILL NEVER CARVE UP OUR KIDS.

  4. Willie John
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    Stu, you’ve given me a headache.

    However I do know the cure – vote them out!

  5. Frank Gillougley
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    Oh Fuck.I have no idea how you can do this Stu week in week out. Its the faux committee assimilated bureaucratic pseudo legal language that kills me. Frankensteins monster. If you put the sheer horror of all this aside for just a moment, i think this is akin to you trying to have a dialogue with a plate of jelly, except that the jelly is more sentient than this 26 year old and the revolutionary Shitfornoncesparty . Oh fur fucks sake! This out kafkas kafka by a country mile. Holy fuck. Danton, Robespierre, Molliere! Have they never read anything by SARAMAGO these fucking people! Diagrams! Bar charts! have they never read any structuralist critique from the 60s 70s like Barthes and see how it all COLLAPSED under its own FUCKING WEIGHT! But then again,Jelly has no history, jelly cant read. jelly knows nothing.Jelly opens its mouth and goes ladi dahdi dadi dah.balah blah blah i salute anyone who tries to have a rational dialogue with these delusional monsters.I can only pray for you all.

  6. Antoine Roquentin
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    Quality work, Rev!

  7. Republicofscotland
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    The first time a child or young adult is physically hurt by this f*ckin car crash of a document/plan Roddick and those f*ckin irresponsible clowns governing Scotland should be sued.

    Roddick with her serious mental illness shouldn’t be anywhere near Holyrood let alone be a minister in office, this SNP/Green government is playing fast and loose with the safety of impressionable young minds in Scotland.

    Get them out of office at every election.

    Vote Alba, Join Alba.

    Down with the union.

  8. Ted
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    It’s all moot prior to Labour obliterating the SNP, but let’s hope Westminster is able to stop this embarrassment as it did the other woo woo with Section 35. This pretendy “government” has well and truly overreached and that’s without considering the foreign affairs forays into Turkey and Gaza. (Look that one up Rev if you haven’t already).

  9. John Main
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    Is it possible to be sexually attracted to somebody who has no gender?

    If a person is sexually attracted to somebody of no gender, is it relevant to claim that the person attracted has a sexual orientation?

    Is it an offence to assign a sexual orientation to somebody attracted to a person of no gender?

    Is it an offence for a person to claim they have a sexual orientation when they are attracted to a person (or persons) of no gender?

    Is it possible for two people of no gender to experience same-sex attraction? If so, how, i.e. what is attracting what?

    Is there any practical limit to the earnings a smooth talking legal counsel with a mile-wide brass neck can make in Scotland PA?

    [Asking for a one-man firm of No Win No Fee lawyers, currently operating from a PO Box in Hackney, but considering opening prestigious offices in Edinburgh’s New Town]

  10. Marie Clark
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    Jeez oh Stuart, ma heid’s nippin wi’ a’ that. These eejits don’t even have enough wit to classify as a half wit.

    Oh well, roll on Alastair Jack and S35. Feckin disgrace we have to look to the tories for a bit of sense. Never thought I’d see the day.

    I don’t know how you do this day in and day out Stuart and still keep your sanity.

  11. BLMac
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    This is like getting involved in an argument about how many angels fit on a pinhead.
    First you have to accept there are angels.
    Then you have to accept these invisible entities can have substance.
    Then you go screaming mad trying to reconcile all the obvious conflicts of truth.
    Meanwhile, the ‘enlightened’ speak in incomprehensible NewSpeak, and the credulous swoon at their erudition.

  12. desimond
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    With every new legislative act of idiocy, I am reminded of a chat so very long ago with a football pal who was both knowledgeable about Politics, local and Holyrood, and worked in helping make Scotland a better place.

    He always seemed non plussed about the big SNP push and the potential for them ousting Labour from running Scotland. When pushed on why he was so reticent, he paused, then calmly replied “Sure, I can appreciate what they are doing in Opposition, my concerns centre on what would they do when actually in power..who knows what laws they might end up introducing..I will wait then judge”

    Sadly, he nailed it.

  13. Geoff Anderson
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    We must remove these raving lunatics as soon as possible. Anyone who vote SNP ever again should be considered a dangerous moron.

    Rev. The best line and I lost a mouthful of coffee over it….
    “ That would be classed as simply “aligning” their physical characteristics with their “gender identity” – a correction, we must assume, of Nature’s mistake, for the Scottish Government is a force superior to Nature.”

  14. Oneliner
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    As mentioned on yesterday’s Through A Scottish Prism. Having had no response to multiple requests, Dr Lynne Tammi-Connelly is walking to Holyrood to park herself outside until Emma the Roaster agrees to meet her.

    Roddick is on an MSP salary. Does the Peter principle apply to the neuro-diverse?

  15. George Ferguson
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    The Scottish Census 2011(95% response) cost 63.5 million. Using an inflation calculator that is about 90 million in today’s money. At a total cost of 140 million we appear to have misplaced 50 million. But that is not the main concern of the null and void 2021 Census. The evidence shows the low response rate of the 2021 Census is a result of the grass roots rebellion by women. Question 3 introduced self-indentication to the female/male question. Beautifully covered up by the NRS doorstepping survey post Census. Just like 1911 Census protest by the suffragettes. Nothing is being learned Angus Robertson.

  16. Patsy Millar
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    Basically the whole thing is a shit storm.

  17. Craig
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    When I eagerly casted my vote for a Scottish Parliament in 1997, never in a million years would I have thought that vote would lead to the clusterfuck that it is by the current inept bunch of fuckwits of today.

    if some asks me today “Would you vote to end Holyrood today?”.

    My answer would be YES, Holyrood sadly has proven to be incapable of good governance apart from the spell from 2007 to September 19th 2014.

    Is there ANYWAY at all to end this insanity????

  18. Stoker
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    Rev wrote: “So you can guide people, but not in a direction that leads them to change anything?”

    Has anyone alerted that fella with the very stubborn horse? 🙂

  19. panda paws
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    “the draft proposals regarding “conversion practices” appear to have been penned by incompetent morons under the direction of witless cretins.”

    I think you’ve overestimated them there, Stu. They aspire to being merely incompetent morons or witless cretins.

    The problem is two fold, institutional capture by the forces behind gender ideology and Sturgeon’s cull of the sensible SNP folk and replacement by those who would offer her no resistance.

    Of course this will be binned by a section 35 order. Not because Labour are any less infiltrated by this insidious ideology but because Starmer et al are every bit as much muscular unionists as the Tories are.

    Look I live in hope that the people will see through the nuSNP and the pseudo Greens in GE2024, however I suspect that whilst the SNP will lose many seats, too many Yes supporters still don’t realise how hollowed out the nuSNP have become and will not vote (where they can) for Alba, ISP or Angus Brendan. Hopefully Holyrood 2026 isn’t a repeat of Westminster 2024 for slow learners and finally independence can be put back on the agenda as something other than a mouldy carrot at election time.

  20. Bob Mack
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    An independent country ruled by this lot? Nope. Not for me.

    Dear Lord. Please put some party with at least some degree of intellect or at least common sense back into the pursuit of Independence.

  21. robertkknight
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    The SNP needs an enema.

  22. Frank Gillougley
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    my last bite at the cherry, In short, now that i’ve calmed down a bit, to me what this is all saying is this: we have lots of words and if you dont like their meaning then we have lots of other meanings that can be attributed to these words. And so it goes. This is the way the world ends not with a bang but up its own arse. If any dialogue of a theological nature is even entered into then this will be tantamount to conversion therapy? then what the fuck is all this mumbo jumbo then? Rationalism? the enlightenment? i am ashamed to have ever been scottish. Go on, do yer worst. Ducking stools by legislation. the dark ages.

  23. Sven
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    Frank Gillougley @ 16.29

    Even worse than disappearing up its’ own arse … the perverts in our devolved administration seem ever keener to teach our schoolchildren to disappear up each others’ non gender specific arses. Or, as their doublespeak would have it, their “rear vaginas”.
    And, some 10 years on from Mr Salmond stepping down, this is where SNP rule has brought us.
    Oh Brave New World.

  24. Shug
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    I see humza’ brother in law has allegedly pharmaceutical connections and his wife is a drugs spokesperson???

    Talk about cornering the market

  25. Cameron Robson
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    Is all this crap being proposed by the SNP freaks what qualifies as ‘getting on with the day job’? What an immoral, Nazi-like activity and a total waste of time and money. Run the twisted, mental, SOB’s out of office as soon as. I’m so glad I switched to Alba.

  26. Ian
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    It’s really about time the ‘Thickos’ section (https://wingsoverscotland.com/morons/) got a bit of an update.

    Not only are three of the seven no longer MSPs, there is a shocking absence of SNP and Green MSPs.

  27. Lynn
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    So similar religious freedoms as somewhere like China ! Interesting . Wonder when they will work that part out .

  28. President Xiden
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    David Hannah said “ It’s time to bring back lobotomisation for SNP MSPs and MPs.”

    What? I worked on the assumption that they had been

  29. Leeza Laine
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    @Craig 4:18 Holyrood isn’t a problem. The current fuckwits in office are the problem. We fix that by voting them out.

    Please don’t confuse Holyrood (the institution) with the SNP and Green Party oxygen thief numpties who warm far too many chairs in the current administration. We can get rid of all of them without getting rid of the Scottish parliament.

  30. And spouse
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    Ma Heidi’s nippin!
    I can’t balance this out, am confuddled!
    The only bits a get are the text between aw they boxes. A understand them, oh aye n the video! A get that, that’s humour!

  31. Republicofscotland
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    Big business rules the world not governments, oh they might control what goes on inside their countries borders but big business transcends borders and continents, next to big business politician are at best limited in what they can or can’t do the Investor–state dispute settlement (ISDS) has just about every government in the world by the balls.

    The WEF in Davos opened today, these are the people who decide just about everything product wise will cost you, which countries are in the bad books and which are in the good books and so on.

    https://archive.is/zESYu

  32. TenaciousV
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    Sex offenders are often put on drugs to curb their sex drive..legally. This Bill wants that stopped? Yet the same drug effect comes from cross hormone drugs men take in their drive to transform? I noticed in this bill a lot of clues to it having been ‘doctored; from a previous document around 21/22. References to things like ‘this will happen in November 2023’. Poor proof reading and incomprehensible waffle! Roddick is being GROOMED along with many vulnerable young folk looking to fit in somewhere! Who else tried to cultivate their ‘YOUTH’ once upon a time?

  33. Gregory Beekman
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    They need to separate gay conversion practices from trans, and just legislate on that (given its clearly understood).

    Though I feel it’d be better if the UK government did that and applied it to all UK. They should also shoot the Oxford dictionary makers – homosexual is not ‘same gender’ attraction!

    Time for the UK gov to also legislate the definition of terms like homosexual.

    Who’d have ever thought we’d need the UK gov to save us from the Scottish gov?

    What an appalling mess Holyrood has become. I can’t help but feel we need to DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF MSPs. With a larger party in government, there’d be far more back-benchers able to rebel against the stupidity of their party leaders. At the moment, it’s as if every SNP MSP is in the government, so they’re unable to point out how stupid something is.

  34. Sven
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    Gregory Beekman @ 17.11

    You really feel that the solution to the troughers camped out in Holyrood is to double their number, Greg ?
    Twice as many over salaried, expense account, pension pot accruing unsackable time servers ?
    Surely you jest.

  35. David Hannah
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    EL NAKLA’S nicked like NIC. Humza Yousaf’s brother charged with selling heroin with a steet value of £6,000.

    The black sheep of a family of black sheeps. You’re the fucking scum of the earth to sell herion and poison the destitute Dundee. Talk about keeping it in the family… What a horrible fucking family.

    That’s just given £750,000 blood money to Ergrodan in Turkey to get a fake brother, who’s somehow not a British citizen into Scotland from Gaza.

    We don’t want an illegal immigrant living in Bute House. With our money. Pack your fucking bags and go Humza. And your family of rack heads and drug dealers.

  36. David Hannah
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    Pack your bags and you. *rack heads. Smack heads.

    And take your child mutilation bill with you as well.

  37. Ellie
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    I’m guessing this will be drawn out till (god forbid) Labour win the GE. In which case, it’s likely to gain royal assent without challenge. There’s also the Scotgov hopes of GRRB having the S35 revoked by Labour.

    I’m ashamed of our current Scotgov and the utter mess they’re making of this country

  38. Anton Decadent
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    “I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.”

    From a film about genocidal parasites which destroy their hosts…

  39. David Hannah
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    Presumably known to the family – Black sheep El Naka.

    I wonder if that’s why Humza – the former justice minister – has relocated his entire family to Dundee. To Run the drug operation from his home?

    One might speculate. Your family are utter scum Humza. Just like yourself. And you know it!

  40. Gregory Beekman
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    Sven @ 5:15

    Yes, we need MORE MSPs, not less.

    A small pool is easy to control, a larger one less so.

    Why don’t we have groups like ERG in the SNP? I don’t mean for Brexit, I mean why don’t we have various interest groups? (Maybe there are, and we just never hear about them?)

    But a larger group of MSPs in the governing party but not in government (‘off payroll’) could only be a good thing, because more MSPs would hopefully mean greater diversity of opinion and more likely to form significantly-sized groups to thwart the stupid decisions of their party in government.

    Anyone know the off-payroll-to-payroll ratios in Westminster and Holyrood, and even further afield?

    Are there any studies to show the bigger this ratio (ie more backbenchers as a percentage), the better the party governs? Or is it the opposite?

  41. Agent x
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    Scottish Government:

    “Scottish Trans define a non-binary person as “a person identifying as either having a gender which is in-between or beyond the two categories ‘man’ or ‘woman’, as fluctuating between ‘man’ and ‘woman’, or as having no gender, either permanently or some of the time.”
    16 Nov 2023
    https://www.gov.scot/news/non-binary-equality-action-plan/

    work that out!

  42. Lorna Campbell
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    I think this is a two-pronged measure to: 1. force the UK government into bringing out another S35 Order so that the SNP/Green coalition can claim that Westminster is interfering without warrant in Scottish democracy, blah, blah, blah; 2. if the Westminster government does not intervene, they know that the public will. It’s a scam.

    They know they cannot bring in the kind of mad-dog b***s**t that Stonewall and its evil-intended arms in Scotland, advocate, so they are looking for a way out that lets them off the hook. Humza, a practising Muslim, does not believe flor one split second this absolute ordure, but neither can he back off from it, given the promises he has made to this insane lobby and its corporate, global backers, not to mention Sturgeon.

    Like all other addictions, p**n addiction is extremely potent and widespread, and very difficult to combat. The front-line ‘soldiers’ of this movement are so p**n addled that they need the fix regularly, and a fresh, never-ending supply of gullible marks, enabled by the state (in its turn, enabled by the corporate, global backers of all the industries, including the multi billion dollar p**n industry, that will benefit from the use of these gullibles) is just the ticket.

    The middle layer, like the jam and cream in a sponge are the autogynephiles, fetishists, psychopaths, sociopaths, sadists and narcissists who are the sergeants and non commissioned officers who are creating the smokescreen of women and children to hide themselves from view. Who? Us, sir? No, sir. Not us, sir. The Scottish government, Westminster, us, the public, are all being played.

    If they cannot get their own way, they can still get enormous fun out of making our lives hell, especially if we are parents, and there’s the added bonus of an endless stream of mutilated and puberty-stalled youngsters to savour. As for the political Gauleiters, the hard left/the post modernists/queer theorists, they dream of a utopia where we are all absolutely free, but, as in Orwell’s Animal Farm, some will be more free than others, while some, women and children, mainly, will be sent to the glue factory if they renege.

  43. Dan
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    @ David Hannah

    Hey, at least heroin powder is BEIGE!
    Humza would be pure ragin if his bro-inlaw had been dealing cocaine – WHITE!, speed – WHITE!, or ketamine – WHITE!

  44. Anton Decadent
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    From Glinner with regard to this.

    “The maximum prison sentence for those found guilty of a criminal offence would be seven years and those prosecuted could also incur an unlimited fine. Alongside these new criminal sanctions are pre-emptive civil orders which could be issued by social workers or even activist groups on behalf of alleged victims. A trans lobby group, for example, could obtain a civil order against a parent on behalf of a confused trans-identified teenager. If the parent then breached this order, by refusing to affirm the teen’s ‘gender identity’ and/or standing in their way of seeking medical intervention, they could face a lengthy prison sentence.”

  45. John C
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    I agree it won’t become law, but there’s still a chance that some sort of Frankenstein Monster of a bill is forced into law which then falls apart come the first few people charged under it. If however a law cannot define what a thing is, how can one know when the law is broken?

    And that’s the entire gender issue summed up to a tee. There’s no firm, consistent explanation of gender that you need when drawing up laws because there isn’t one as gender is regressive bullshit based upon stereotypes. Roddick as pointed out by Stu admits to her own regressive beliefs in the Tweets he’s posted. Not that she’d realise she’s internalising her sexism and processing it as a ‘progressive’ thought.

    My other concern here is this is a further attempt to not just weaponise the legal system on behalf of TRAs as after all, the punishment for TRAs is the process at the moment but if they can criminalise thought itself then we’ve got new blasphemy laws in the 21st century. I also worry that this is part of making same-sex definitions a thing of the past therefore making homosexuality illegal. Gender Ideology is riddled with self-hating homophobia after all and this is already creeping in via organisations adopting Stonewall law & why many are getting themselves into legal issues.

    It’s just another example of someone (Roddick in this case) being elected when they’re completely unprepared, unable and incapable of doing the job they were elected for & most certainly shouldn’t be a minister. There’s a number of people who entered politics off the back of the Indyref who really have done their best to ensure we’re never going to get independence in most people’s lifetimes.

  46. Mark Beggan
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    Pakistan is the heroin gateway to the West. From Afghanistan to Dundee.

  47. Den
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    @rev Stu, this is 100% the fault of the electorate , they vote for these useless fuckers because of the rosette. Only way to fix it ( and I’m not sure it will happen) is to do due diligence on who you vote for and what their credentials are , these clowns get these jobs on the back of the SNP/Indy ticket and fuck all else is look at.(it’s been a cult) We as a nation are reaping what we have sown since 2014. I truly despair and can only hope that they have fucked up again and strayed into reserved legislation (won’t be surprised if the have)

  48. Andy Ellis
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    @Gregory Beekman 5.46pm

    Interesting comparisons:

    Scots parliament: 129 members, pop. 5.4M, 1 per 41.9K
    Irish Dail: 160 members, pop. 5.1M, 1 per 31.9K
    Danish Folketing: 179 members, pop. 5.9M, 1 per 32.9K
    Norwegian Storting: 169 members, pop: 5.5M, 1 per 32.5K
    Finland eduskunta: 200 members, pop. 5.5M, 1 per 27.5K
    Swedish Riksdag: 349 members, 10.6M, 1 per 30.3K

    I suppose British nationalists might argue Holyrood needs fewer because we have Westminster MPs too. However, post independence there’s definitely a good argument for having ratios similar to our neighbours.

  49. Dave Hansell
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    A few random thoughts…

    – It seems reasonable to consider that one possible option for an apparent failure to properly define any/all of the key terms could well be based on the same principle as that of self-id. ie: the definitions are, much like the famous ‘Rules Based International Order’, flexible depending upon the convenience of whoever is (a) administering the law (assuming it gets on the statute book); (b) bringing the case.

    Remember, we are dealing here with the mindset of Carroll’s Humpty Dumpty in which words mean whatever those uttering them want them to mean at any one time depending on their individual convenience. Where a purity spiral of the pecking order of a hierarchy of oppression operates.

    – A question arises as to how the theory and practice of legal precedent will be affected by such a piece of legislation constructed on the basis laid out in what is proposed?

    On the one hand, using this piece of legislation with its a la carte definitions (should it reach the statute book) as precedent would it be possible, for example. for someone to, say, argue that forcible conscription into the armed forces represented a form of ‘Conversion Therapy” designed to change them against their will from a pacifist into a killer?

    Or, to consider another example off the top of the head, that arbitrary designation as transphobic, Anti-Semitic, or cis by others against ones own self definition on such matters breaches the right not to be arbitrarily converted to the definitions of others?

    I don’t even want to go down the road of Religion and Foorball.

    On the other hand, with the wider contextual precedent having been set (should this dogs dinner of a law ever see the light of day) in which the legal practice of ‘implied term(s)’ determines that only those precedents which suit the convenience of those at the top of the pyramid (again much like the ‘Rules Based International Order*) are applied it is highly unlikely that such examples as considered above will ever be entertained?

    * Alexander Mercouris, from The Duran site, put this in the following terms the other day:

    “Well. of course, it [the USA] doesn’t want to acknowledge there are any restraints on its behaviour at all. And, if you want to understand the difference between International Law and ‘The Rules based International Order’ there you have it. ‘The Rules Based International Order’ is what the United States decides what it wants to do from one day to another. If the United States does it, its legal. That’s basically the conception behind ‘The ‘Rules Based International Order’ – International Law is this old fashioned idea that there are rules binding on everybody, including the United States.”

    Point being that this kind of practice operated all the way down the chain as far as laws and rules go in the Collective West. As members of the SNP and Labour – to cite merely two well documented such examples in regard to their internal procedures.

    – Finally, in regard to some of the earlier comments about the absurdity of this and how much of a headache it is ploughing through this nonsense: I’ll just leave this link…..

    https://vastabrupt.com/2018/10/31/gender-acceleration/

    …. for anyone to try and make sense of.

  50. Merganser
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    As has been pointed out, this will never pass scrutiny and a s.35 order is inevitable.

    Which raises the question, why are they doing this when they know they will be stopped from introducing it?

    Is it yet another venture into trying to show how unreasonble Westminster is by not allowing Scotland to legislate for itself? If so, it is yet again the wrong subject on which to gain public support, and harms the prospect of independence.

    All these ideas the SNP has of shooting itself (and Scotland) in the foot must be coming from somewhere. Someone somewhere has managed to sow the seeds of self-destruction on very fertile ground. There are unknown forces at work here pulling the strings of the puppets.

    The objective can ony be to bring the SNP down and with it the drive towards independence. Sadly it seems to be working.

  51. twathater
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    Stu didn’t you also feel that the SP wouldn’t pass the GRRB and yet Alex Cole Hamilton DID IT for BETH, and the rest of the politicians in the parliament gave the deviants and perverts sitting in the gallery a raucous round of applause

    Unfortunately I don’t have your faith that these political GRRB supporting paedophiles,deviants and perverts elected through LIES , LIES and MORE LIES will actually see that this gargantuan pile of horseshit gobbledegook makes them ALL look like fucking MORONS
    WTAF has it come to when some dedicated and desperate independence supporters are actively hoping that the shower of paedophile enabling unionist scum in WM take steps to block this legislation
    Bring on the REVOLUTION

  52. David Hannah
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    Mhairi Black’s been getting her kit kat on speed dial. With one of Humza Yousaf’s burner phones Dan! I hope it’s a white judge that sends Humza’s crack dealing and drug addled criminal brother in law down for poisoning the city. Heroin dealers should be delt with the northern Irish way.

  53. Rev. Stuart Campbell
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    “Stu didn’t you also feel that the SP wouldn’t pass the GRRB

    Uh, not that I recall. It always seemed sure to have the numbers with Labour on board. Feel free to remind me if I said otherwise at some point.

  54. Mark Beggan
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    The SNP strategy for the last ten years has been to blame Westminster. Thank God for Westminster.

  55. Johnlm
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    It’s a whole new language.
    One I’m too old to bother learning.
    I expect that I will be charged with an inadvertent ‘thoughtcrime’ someday.
    When that happens, I hope we still have jury trials where the meanings of these words have to be explained to some normal people.

  56. Doug
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    The worrying thing is that very soon, south of the border, we’re going to see the malign influence of Starmer and his lot. I can see Labour being drawn into supporting this crackpot SNPs mince…pardon the pun.

  57. John C
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    force the UK government into bringing out another S35 Order so that the SNP/Green coalition can claim that Westminster is interfering without warrant in Scottish democracy

    There’s something to this. They’ve lost all moral clarity and any intellectual judgement, and they know all they have left is outrage which sadly, some people will swallow up.

    If they cannot get their own way, they can still get enormous fun out of making our lives hell, especially if we are parents, and there’s the added bonus of an endless stream of mutilated and puberty-stalled youngsters to savour

    There’s a massive societal problem with porn, not to mention hatred of women and homophobia, to the extent that Andrew Tate and Queer Theory are (to coin a phrase) two cheeks of the same arse, and yes, having a stream of porn-addled children to prey on is great for these people.

  58. Mark Beggan
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    I ask you, where will these tormented souls be in five to ten years time.

  59. Tinto Chiel
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    @The Rev: thanks for reading through that ludicrous crapola and giving it your razor-sharp scapula treatment. It’s beyond absurd and a testament to the dire intellectual calibre of the SNP “government”.

    I fear the strain is telling on you, though, quoting an entire poem contrary to threats of yore of hammers for such a deed?

    Never thought I’d see the day 🙂 .

  60. sam
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    Why would there be a sec 35 Order?

    Kemi Badenoch (December 2023) said there would be a ban on conversion therapy. In the same month Labour promised a ban on conversion therapy.

    ECHR demands a ban on conversion therapy

  61. Johnlm
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    It’s a whole new language.
    – One I’m too old to bother learning.
    So, I expect that I’ll be charged with an inadvertent ‘th0ughtcrime’ someday.

    When that happens, I hope we still have jury trials where the meanings of these words have to be explained to some normal people.

    Looks like ‘th0ughtcrime is a verboten word.
    Seems fitting.

  62. George Ferguson
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    Further to my post of 4.13

    A good source of evidence that recounts and captures the essence of the grass root Census rebellion is provided by Professor Sarah Pedersen. Believers in Biology, a published paper ISSN 2053-888X. Others are available. After a £140 million waste I am surprise the MSM have not picked up on this gender woo woo rebellion by women. And so on it goes on with banning conversion therapies in much the same way. Opposition parties should boycott this proposed bill at the committee stage.

    https://core.ac.uk/download/542491421.pdf

  63. Mia
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    says:

    “Which raises the question, why are they doing this when they know they will be stopped from introducing it?”

    Precisely.

    Possibilities:

    1. to ensure a backlash from voters at the upcoming GE to ensure a pro-colonial MP majority representing Scotland in Westminster

    2. to gain sufficient support from the public for this utter garbage via deception and by the back door (by appealing to the pro-indy sentiment through disguising it behind a deliberately provoked and engineered “encroachment of Westminster on Holyrood ‘legislation’ “)

    3. to fabricate acceptance of the final draft by presenting first something so utterly ridiculous and so utterly unacceptable that anything they (or Labour) produce in the near future will be perceived to be better and perhaps more acceptable. In other words, the usual deception strategy of making something look good and acceptably by putting it side by side with something horrendous.

    They have put an inexperienced, still wet behind the ears, in charge of this bill. This either means that no senior party MSP wanted anywhere near this vomit-inducing garbage because they knew it was toxic, or because they knew from day 1 this crap was going to fail, so rather this lady lose her seat than another more “valuable” MSP. In other words, they set this lady to fail and to take the rap for it.

    I am convinced this garbage, just like the GRR, is being deployed to distract from and prevent progress of independence, and also to make the SNP and the Greens unelectable.

    It stands to the obvious they are purposely running away from a repeat of 2015, with 56 pro-indy seats and over 50% of the vote for pro-indy parties. It is obvious they are helping the British establishment to hide support for Scotland’s independence.

    I have been wondering for quite some time now what could these SNP betrayers have negotiated with the tories and labour behind our backs in late 2014 for them to be so, so utterly desperate now to see Starmer in n10 that they are even committing political harakiri to helping him out.

    Immediately after the political fraud Sturgeon took control of the SNP, she transformed it into a devolutionist party to render the 56 majority useless. How obliging. Every effort she and Yousaf have made has been to prevent progress of independence.

    This to me suggests these political frauds have already negotiated something with the colonial parties behind closed doors and behind our backs. In other words, they sold us.This would explain why no SNP MP or MSP other than a handful have lifted their arses, heads and voices to challenge the political fraud and we have been fed absolute garbage policies and bills for the best part of 9 years.

    This also would explain why so many elements of STurgeon’s praetorian guard at Westminster are not seeking re-election. I guess they have done the job they were tasked with: to help stall independence until the powers that be found a way to ensure a majority of colonial MPs will be sent to Westminster on behalf of Scotland.

    Shame on the sickening betrayers. May they all burn in hell.

  64. Gregory Beekman
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    says:

    Andy Ellis @ 6:13

    Thanks, that’s interesting stats.

    Compared to Norway, we’re at least 30 MSPs short!

    If we did become independent, we’d need a bigger pool of MSPs because there’d be so many jobs to do withing government.

    Is Westminster’s payroll larger than the entirety of the Scottish Parliament?

  65. John Main
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    Would forcing a convicted drug dealer to abandon a life of crime and go straight be classed as conversion therapy?

    Gotta stress that nobody on here knows of any drug dealers, suspected, charged or convicted, so it’s very much an academic question.

    Still, makes you think.

    Alert readers might wonder at any future efforts on the part of HR to legalise cannabis.

  66. Mac
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    says:

    I struggle to read these articles. I am just so sick and disgusted by these vile wankers. I just want them out.

  67. GM
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    says:

    Geoff Anderson
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    says:
    15 January, 2024 at 4:11 pm

    We must remove these..

    The problem is what is replacing it. Some are looking at the tories for sense when they have been at very the centre of this era of the self. They all despise us, they are all afraid to speak out of turn (wee doogie and his pals haven’t exactly been writing Stuart Campbell style articles in the local papers have they?). All of the main parties have vastly more in common with themselves than they do with those who they expect to turn out and vote for them.
    It’s the end of an era. It has to be. The wild social liberalism is just an offshoot of the Tory no such thing as society bollocks that has lead us to where we are today. Total fannies performing and we have largely stopped listening now and they have nothing else. Do nothing. Collect money. Got the cheek to moralise at us while they are doing it.

    Vote them out by voting exactly the same types back in? The next decade is going to be interesting I suspect. Hopefully something more genuine will emerge. If Alba or the ISP have a candidate in my area I’ll vote but if not no vote from me. A pitiful turnout might be more useful this time round than anything else. Maybe even that is too much to hope for.

  68. Gregory Beekman
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    says:

    Some UK gov facts (from source below):

    The legal maximum number of paid ministers is 109, including the prime minister, as set out in the Ministerial and other Salaries Act 1975.

    As of December 2023, there are 144 ministerial posts, held by 126 people…

    109 ministers are currently paid, and 17 are unpaid.

    Source: https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainer/government-ministers

    So UK gov has more posts than Holyrood has MSPs!

  69. Jack McArthur
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    “Humza, a practising Muslim, does not believe flor one split second this absolute ordure, but neither can he back off from it, given the promises he has made to this insane lobby and its corporate, global backers, not to mention Sturgeon.”
    If he is shia Muslim then maybe in terms of sex change by an adult (so long as he ignores the Quran) but Sunni No – indeed if the latter, according to his own sacred books, he is condemned as best as I know along with his false teachers.

    “Like all other addictions, p**n addiction is extremely potent and widespread, and very difficult to combat.”
    Agreed and like other addictions it takes more than human effort to overcome it. The person who owns the biggest porn network in the world, so I am told, is a rabbi. I cannot post to multiple reliable links in case this post is suppressed.

    The hebrew writer (sorry for the euphy) wrote in “You Gentiles”, the same year Hitler was imprisoned, that ““We [hebrews], we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers for ever. Nothing that you will do will meet our needs and demands. We will for ever destroy because we need a world of our own, a God-world, which it is not in your nature to build.”

    Now as it happens the New Testament describes the “god” in question (john 8:44) – go on do a google search. It is a common misunderstanding that the significant book of the tribe is the torah (recall how David Libya Cameron described the Tory party as the torah party?)? but talmudists today describe Jesus boiling in excrement, his mother a whore, and that you, gentile, is no more than an animal which to abuse and even kill is no sin.

    I admire people who wish to retain and defend their own culture but truly Scotland, who ironically changed the world so much, is now no more than a insignificant blip (try taking a walk down high street past the discoverer of antibiotics, anaesthetics, down onto Argyle St and and the blue sign for James Watt whose revolution we are still living under under today, along to Glasgow University and the father of modern capitalism -but forgetting his teaching of morality- then to the father of modern surgery (Hunter museum)…..

    For just one time take a good look in the mirror and recognise the ethnicity of who controls Washington, the media directly or through fear or by marriage.

    John McArthur
    94 Dalziel Tower
    Motherwell

    p.s reliable citations for everything above
    John McArthur
    94 Dalziel Tower
    Motherwell

  70. Mark Beggan
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    says:

    “There’s no point in asking, you’ll get no reply
    Oh just remember I don’t decide
    I got no reason it’s all too much
    You’ll always find us
    Out to lunch
    Oh we’re so pretty
    Oh so pretty
    We’re vacant
    Oh we’re so pretty
    Oh so pretty
    A vacant
    Don’t ask us to attend, ’cause we’re not all there
    Oh don’t pretend ’cause I don’t care
    I don’t believe illusions ’cause too much is real
    So stop your cheap comment, ’cause we know what we feel
    Oh we’re so pretty
    Oh so pretty
    We’re vacant
    Oh we’re so pretty
    Oh so pretty
    Vacant
    Oh we’re so pretty
    Oh so pretty
    Ah but now
    And we don’t care
    There’s no point in asking, you’ll get no reply
    Oh just remember I don’t decide
    I got no reason it’s all too much
    You’ll always find me
    Out to lunch
    Oh we’re so pretty
    Oh so pretty
    We’re vacant
    Oh we’re so pretty
    Oh so pretty
    Vacant
    Oh we’re so pretty
    Oh so pretty
    Ah but now
    And we don’t care
    We’re pretty a-pretty vacant
    We’re pretty a-pretty vacant
    We’re pretty a-pretty vacant
    We’re pretty a-pretty vacant
    And we don’t care”.

  71. Karen
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    Stu a) thank you for putting all my disparate, enraged, bewildered thoughts into an elegant, coherent, entertaining article b) I’m sure Roddy Dunlop would agree – any legislation which has to list so many things which it is not, is not very good legislation c) my parents somehow allowed me to watch a cowboy movie involving someone drowning in quicksand, which gave me nightmares for years, lock them up!

  72. Jack McArthur
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    “And we don’t care”
    Maybe on unwitting theological, royal or trinitarian, grounds but it does seem like the world now gets what its deserves.

  73. Ruby
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    Emma Roddick, who is piloting the bill towards the statute books in much the same way that Mohamed Atta piloted American Airlines Flight 11 towards the World Trade Centre,

    Brilliant!
    That’s is totally unfair to Mohamed. Yer man Mohamed knew where he was going and he knew how to fly.

    I find I can’t make any serious comments about all the bonkers stuff we’re hearing about. All I can think of doing is making jokes. If You Didn’t Laugh, You’d Cry

    Ground control to Captain Emma
    You’d better turn yourself around, there’s no stalling
    You’re running off your course
    You’ve got your signals crossed
    Take your protein pills and put your helmet on
    And now the compass points to lost
    I’m stepping through the door
    And I’m floating in a most peculiar way
    And the stars look very different today
    I have become comfortably numb
    I have become comfortably numb
    Okay (okay, okay, okay)
    Just a little pinprick
    Wow Ramsay I have become comfortable numb

    The above I believe is what you call ‘a mash up’

    It’s meant to be kinda surreal. The Conversion Therapy thingy is surreal but I don’t think they intended it to be.

    Surrealism/Dadism by accident.

    Emma’s Conversion Therapy bill will be nominated for The Turner Prize.

    It’s a sure winner!

    Dadaism
    http://tinyurl.com/2w2dhh9b

  74. TURABDIN
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    «self-identified as lesbian, gay, bisexual or other» ADHD maybe?
    that ought to put all in the clear.
    ADHD is the hot psycho-trend…everyone can be a victim.

  75. Tommo
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    Merganser
    Ignored says:
    15 January, 2024 at 6:15 pm
    As has been pointed out, this will never pass scrutiny and a s.35 order is inevitable.

    Which raises the question, why are they doing this when they know they will be stopped from introducing it?’

    I wouldn’t put too many eggs under that-Labour is very much a ‘right on’ London luvvies party. Their seemingly inevitable victory may bring all sorts of wonders to come to pass.

  76. Jack McArthur
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    Ruby, you remind me of the name who was deeply involved in jFK scenarios i.e Jack Ruby who murdered Oswald “because of the hebrews” [sorry for eupamism]

    name and adress previously supplied

  77. Ruby
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    says:

    Mac
    Ignored
    says:
    15 January, 2024 at 7:13 pm

    I struggle to read these articles. I am just so sick and disgusted by these vile wankers. I just want them out.

    Me too!

    But mainly I find it difficult to make any serious comment.

    FFS It’s all totally bonkers!

  78. JockMcT
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    Fuksake! Independence anyone?
    Get us the fkoutta Dodge asap!
    Any news on sturgeon and some justice?
    How the hell you wade through this shite without screaming is beyond me Rev.
    The British State, or BS for short, has done a right old number on us hasn’t it!

  79. Merganser
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    Tommo @7.59.

    Fair point, but a Labour Government would at least have sufficiet intellect to see the conflict which would arise if they let Scotland pass this rubbish. Add to that it would set a dangerous precedent if Scotland was allowed to get away with it, and that it is hardly a vote winner, then I can easily see them stopping it.

    It looks like the SNP are signalling they are going to test the water when Labour get in to see how far they will be allowed to push things before there is an intervention to stop them.

    It will be fascinating to hear Humza answering questions on the subject. He can’t even recognise a dangerous dog when he sees one. He reminds me of that episode of” Yes Minister” which went along these lines:

    Sir Humphrey: “Even someone with the intellectual capacity of Winnie the Pooh could see the sense in this”.

    Master of the college: “And does your minister have the intellectual capacity of Winnie the Pooh?”

    Sir Hummphrey: “Oh yes. On a good day”.

  80. Ruby
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    says:

    Jack McArthur
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    says:
    15 January, 2024 at 8:03 pm

    Ruby, you remind me of the name who was deeply involved in jFK scenarios i.e Jack Ruby who murdered Oswald “because of the hebrews” [sorry for eupamism]

    name and adress previously supplied

    Funny you should say that Jack! 🙂

    Your name reminds me of another nasty bloke who killed loads of women but the Met or whatever they were called back then never ever caught him/her.

    What is a eupamism? I know I should google but I keep getting the spinning beach ball.

    You got anything to do with thon park where they put the cake out in the rain.

    What do you want me to do with your name & address?

    Send you a Valentine card? Maybe a box of cupcakes with sweet, green icing flowing down to make up for the one that got melted in the rain. 🙂

  81. Mac
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    The entire Western media did not show the live feed of the case against Israel by South Africa.

    Yet they all live streamed Israel’s defence the next day.

    How weak is the West that it has do this. It is pathetic.

    They did the exact same thing during the Salmond stitch-up criminal trial . They only only reported on the prosecution case, and ‘closed their notebooks’ as soon as the defence started.

    Western ‘justice’ is a fucking joke.

  82. Andy Ellis
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    @Gregory Breekman 7.07pm

    If we did become independent, we’d need a bigger pool of MSPs because there’d be so many jobs to do withing government.

    It’s always seemed to me to be one of the biggest pluses of indy that when we have our own independent parliament there will be a re-jigging of the Scottish party political environment. A proper STV will give opportunities for more parties and hopefully ensure we never end up in a situation of having a bunch of chancers like the SNP in charge.

  83. Craig P
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    says:

    Gregory Beekman – interesting position! Out of interest, there are only three MSPs (I think) who are backbenchers, in the sense they have neither a role in government, committees, or running the Parliament. Can you name them?

    Regarding the article. In Curious Scotland, George Rosie asks why naturally Conservative Edinburgh doesn’t vote Conservative in council elections? His theory is the Tory councillors kept trying to push a Glasgow style motorway through the middle of the city against the people’s wishes, until eventually they got voted out and never got back in again.

    Reminds me of the SNP and this stuff.

  84. Tommo
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    says:

    Merganser
    Ignored says:
    15 January, 2024 at 8:27 pm
    Tommo @7.59.

    Fair point, but a Labour Government would at least have sufficiet intellect to see the conflict which would arise if they let Scotland pass this rubbish. Add to that it would set a dangerous precedent if Scotland was allowed to get away with it, and that it is hardly a vote winner, then I can easily see them stopping it.’

    I devoutly hope you’re right; however I can see them slipping it in through the back door (If you’ll pardon the expression) on a day when something of substance happens-e.g. we declare war on France.

  85. Mac
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    Craig Murray chatting to George Galloway.

    youtube.com/watch?v=NXkBOb8hXdY

  86. ClanDonald
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    Once a government rules that a child can consent to transgenderism, it can then argue that a child can consent to anything related to sexuality… And we all know who will benefit from that. Ugh.

    As for the toxic half-wit that is Emma Roddick, she was already on a respectable councillor salary when she made her famous “Where’s my fu*king Gravy Train” tweet. She continued on at the council till the following year, drawing two salaries.

  87. Tommo
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    Andy Ellis
    @Gregory Breekman 7.07pm
    A proper STV will give opportunities for more parties and hopefully ensure we never end up in a situation of having a bunch of chancers like the SNP in charge.’

    Assuming it ever happens you won’t be ending up with them-you’ll be starting off with them.

  88. Robert Louis
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    This proposed legislation is nonsense on every level. Like seriously, I have never read such absolute, utter, utter, waffly idiotic sh*te ever.

    It is like a teenagers huffy, sulking attempt at getting their own way, no matter how ridiculous, no matter how utterly stupid.

    Full of contradictions, full of non-definitions, full of stupidity.

    Just hard to believe how stupid, like really, really, really immensely thick this roddick person is. I mean seriously stupid, the stupidest person in stupidville, having a particularly stupid day.

    Any sane person would be utterly ashamed and embarrassed for anybody to ever read such nonsense by them. The legislation makes no sense at all, every single part, or paragraph is just stupid, like, really, really, really stupid. Even if you agree with the gender ideology cult nonsense, this legislation makes no sense.

    Stupid, stupid, stupid.

  89. Mark Beggan
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    This only January. Humza

  90. Ruby
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    Talking of tapping someone for a loan did Natalie McGarry not tap Humza for a loan?

    What was their connection?

    Do you think we’ll ever hear anything more about the ‘Adultery in the time of Covid?’

    Did Humza get his money back?

  91. Ruby
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    The George Galloway Craig Murray talk was very interesting. It did cut off very abruptly.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXkBOb8hXdY

    Who knows what will happen. There seem to be a lot of things happening which you just couldn’t have imagine a few years ago.

    ie Emma Roddick a government minister & the rest.

    This came up next
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9KXfUhZKKI

  92. McDuff
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    Thanks again rev for highlighting this insanity.

  93. Ruby
    Ignored
    says:

    There is just so much to keep up and its particularly annoying if you spend your time looking into something and you find out it’s all total bollocks.

    Sturgeon says the census could be worthless. Of course it will be worthless. It’s worthless if you don’t know the actual sex of the residents.

    You’ve got all these maternity hospitals just waiting for men to give birth.
    I read somewhere that there is a religion I can’t remember which one, believe that the next messiah/son of god/allah whatever will be born of man. (That was their justification for homosexuality even if their holy book forbade it.) The son of a god being born of man would only account for 1 extra bed. Of course things get tricky when we don’t know what a man is. Just had a thought maybe all the women transitioning to men are looking to be the next ‘Mother of God’

    Oh Mother of God! It’s all bonkers.

    However I would have liked to know how many of us ‘believers in biology’ there are in Scotland.

    Maybe someone posting on here knows the exact number.

    If not we could perhaps organise a march for us ‘Believers in Biology’ BIBs

    Oh no don’t even think about. That would not be allowed on the basis that believing in biology is a hate crime.

  94. mike cassidy
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    says:

    That’s good work, Rev

    And the grim irony is

    You could have stopped after the first point

    (They want to outlaw something but they can’t tell you what it is)

    And that would still have been more than sufficient to torpedo the whole thing

  95. AnneDon
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    It is apposite that you use show the policy that humans are not fully-formed adult until 25, to remind everyone that this act will force through decisions made by teenagers.

    “Trans conversion therapy” being another example of TRAs appropriating other peoples’ struggles. The young lad on tv last week describing his degrading experiences of abuse and “exorcism” for being gay is what we understand Gay Conversion Therapy to be, and such treatment should be outlawed regardless of its ostensible purpose.

    Supposed “trans conversion therapy”, of course, is the opposite. It is preventing children making decisions that will have horrific long term consequences for their health before they’re old enough to understand what they’re doing.

    I wonder how many of the careerist MSPs who vote for this voted to raise the age of smoking from 16 to 18? What hypocrites!

  96. Andy Storrie
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    A load of pantomime bullshit, to the point where these fucking clowns are actually stealing taxpayers money by acting in a pantomime instead of doing actual politics.

    We really ought to stick to actual campaigning at a time like this instead of dwelling on the silly fucking rantings of London plants who are clearly and deliberately trying to alienate the public from the main independence vehicle.

    The scope is there to turn the 50% support into 60% within this year. We will firstly need to start concentrating on actual politics instead of this silly London herding tactic regarding gender.

    It is absurd to be squandering the momentum that is clearly in the air in order to concentrate on this silly shite. It is nothing but a distraction, and an attempt by London to herd people away from full autonomy. And not a very good attempt, at that.

    In fact, it is downright fucking childish.

  97. AnneDon
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    @David Hannah

    I know someone who attempted to work with Emma Roddick while volunteering for a medical charity. Her description was: “a nice enough lassie, but no’ very bright.”

    She’s been handed that legislation to carry it out, not to think about it. And like all underqualified people, she wouldn’t dare question it. That seems to be the standard of Scot Gov minister we have these days.

  98. MaryB
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    It seems to me that Emma Roddick is a useful idiot in someone else’s game. Give her enough money and she’ll say anything, because she either doesn’t understand it or is not even intellectually able to do so. On the other hand, with her psychological issues, she might not realise that, believe it all and simply be flattered by the attention and feelings of importance (and money) she gets.
    But it smacks of something much bigger. Scotland is being set up.

  99. Anton Decadent
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    It is not just Scotland which is suffering this, it is also other countries which we are being told are not having enough children so the children have to be made sterile whilst their replacements are literally shipped in.

    Follow the money in both directions, where it is coming from and who it is going to.

  100. Anthem
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    This article needs to be printed across the front page of all the Scottish press. This is an absolute disgrace!

  101. Cee Bee Beaumont
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    “I wear makeup and dresses. I talk about being a woman and experience sexism and misogyny.” So that’s being a woman in a nutshell to the low-intellect mentally ill, then: makeup, dresses, sexism, and misogyny. Nothing else. Pure deranged victim mentality madness. The Yanks and English have done a fine job of filling Holyrood with nutcases to totally destroy it. The fact these flakes don’t know how mad they are, and, indeed, think they’re being useful, is the sickest, saddest thing of all. Still, pays well, eh?

  102. Jack McArthur
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    “Your name reminds me of another nasty bloke who killed loads of women but the Met or whatever they were called back then never ever caught him/her.”
    I assume you are referring to another “hebrew” known under a different name just like Jack Ruby whose real name was suppressed in the aftermath of the assassination.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Kosminski

    As an aside the short walk I mentioned above also includes passing the hotel where the young JFK gave his first public speech.
    https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/16897153.jfks-speech-beresford-glasgow-delayed-us-involvement-wwii/

    Sarah Silverman, the American “hebrew” comedian, has a problem with swearing as well. As a little girl she was dangled on her fathers knee and taught to curse as her first words for the delight of his friends. “It was like he was teaching a cursing as a second language course for one”. In recent years she declared “I hope the [hebrews] did kill Jesus, I’d do it again in a second!”.

    I already have two “valentines” from your spirit, the one you may not believe in, but I think the new testament has the better handle in who rules this world.

  103. Jack McArthur
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    “Your name reminds me of another nasty bloke who killed loads of women but the Met or whatever they were called back then never ever caught him/her.”
    I assume you are referring to another “hebrew” known under a different name just like Jack Ruby whose real name was suppressed in the aftermath of the assassination.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Kosminski

    As an aside the short walk I mentioned above also includes passing the hotel where the young JFK gave his first public speech.
    https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/16897153.jfks-speech-beresford-glasgow-delayed-us-involvement-wwii/

    Sarah Silverman, the American “hebrew” comedian, has a problem with swearing as well. As a little girl she was dangled on her fathers knee and taught to curse as her first words for the delight of his friends. “It was like he was teaching a cursing as a second language course for one”. In recent years she declared “I hope the [hebrews] did kill Jesus, I’d do it again in a second!”.

    I already have two “valentines” from your spirit, the one you may not believe in, but I think the new testament has the better handle on who rules this world.

  104. Frazerio
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    I bet ScotgoesPop will say dont harm the SNP vote, theyre our best hope for indy. Wazzock.

  105. Mark Beggan
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    What qualifications does Emma Roddick have? Apart from knowing the names of the colours in the Crayola box.

  106. Viscount Ennui
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    This article confirms for the umpteenth time that if you want to know what is happening in Scotland, you turn to WoS.
    Proper journalism as I remember we had in my youth.

  107. PacMan
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    The only way for this to stop is if the SNP gets electorally annihilated to the point where they only have a handful of seats at Holyrood. This will send a message to the other mainstream political parties that such policies are toxic and to be avoided.

    The only way I can see this happening is in at least two electoral cycles where before then, the SNP implements even more dangerous policies and the political ‘normies’ in the general population start to wake up to what is going on and vote with their feet.

  108. Gregory Beekman
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    Craig P @8:56

    Only three ‘true’ MSP backbenchers? Wow. Holyrood really is too tiny then, if basically everyone elected gets a second job with government or parliament.

    No – can’t name them. Who are these three?

  109. TURABDIN
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    THOSE the gods wish to destroy they first make mad…..some of the latter in below the line posts recently…..trust it is a passing malady or btl will be full of chat about that new Danish king.

  110. TURABDIN
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    ……speaking of Danes etc those imagining that linking Scotland to the Nordic states would scotch the local «gender fascisti» need to think again.
    https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/08/10/there-is-nowhere-to-hide-from-the-culture-wars/
    Those once wild, hairy macho vikings are using depilatory cream nowadays.

  111. Alf Baird
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    TURABDIN @ at 9:58 am

    “speaking of Danes etc”

    That’s an excellent article by David Gunnlaugsson, former prime minister of Iceland, explaining the woke threat to all national cultures and their way of life.

    Speaking of Danes, nobody seems to have noticed that the soon to be Queen of Denmark Mary Donaldson is a Scottish lassie, her faither fae Cockenzie:

    https://yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com/2024/01/15/letter-from-denmark-three-quarters-of-an-auld-alliance/

  112. Anton Decadent
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    With regard to Scandinavia here is an article which was in the Guardian twelve days ago. It mentions how Sweden is now second only to Albania for gun crime in Europe, can anyone spot the elephant in the room missing from the article, one of a number of things which much never be spoken of in a negative manner in the Soros and Gates funded Guardian and many other ‘news’ outlets?

    https://web.archive.org/web/20240104185736/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/04/why-sweden-is-failing-gang-violence-rapper-sebastian-stakset

    On that note whilst looking into NGOs in Scotland I found this list of ones catering for those deemed vulnerable.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20240112163050/https://ngobase.org/stwa/GB.SC/VNG/vulnerable-groups-ngos-charities-scotland

  113. Agent x
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    FIRST Minister Humza Yousaf’s brother-in-law has been arrested for a second time.

    Ramsay El-Nakla, the sibling of Yousaf’s partner, SNP councillor Nadia El-Nakla, had first been arrested in connection to drugs charges last Thursday.

    El-Nakla secured bail, the Sun reported, but all three were arrested again in connection with a second incident before they could leave court.

    Police said a man had fallen from a flat window on Monday January 10, before being taken to hospital for treatment for “serious injuries”.

    —————————————

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/24052294.humza-yousafs-brother-in-law-arrested-second-time-police-confirm/

  114. Ruby
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    says:

    TURABDIN
    Ignored
    says:
    16 January, 2024 at 9:23 am

    THOSE the gods wish to destroy they first make mad…..some of the latter in below the line posts recently…..trust it is a passing malady or btl will be full of chat about that new Danish king.

    Very very quiet here at the ‘BTL Uiversity of Wings’.
    It’s because Randle has taken all the mads on a fishing trip. They didn’t take me! Why is that? I’ve been a fishershe-her all my life.

    The Chief couldn’t make it today so they hired Emma as their driver.

    Ha! Ha! Ha! Serves them right for not taking me! I’m off now got to do some ‘therapy’ Nurse Ratchet. She seems keen to get the ‘therapy’ done before Emma puts a stop to it.

    They´re coming to take me away,
    Haha, they´re coming to take me away,
    Ho ho, hee hee, ha ha,

    Foutu mais content! C’est la vie!

  115. Ruby
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    says:

    Ruby
    Ignored
    says:
    16 January, 2024 at 12:14 pm

    Maybe it’s quiet here due to a massive online traffic jam.

    Huge tailback of posts. It stretches for miles.

    Emma is stuck there too with all the mads & their fishing gear.

    Ha! Ha! He! He! Ho! Ho!

  116. Shug
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    Where do you think prince andrews forthcoming car crash will ve??

  117. Ruby
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    Want to know a secret?

    I’ve just spotted ‘UPPER CASE TURABDIN’ waiting to see Nurse Ratchet.

    They didn’t take him fishing either.

    I’m sorry Turbie
    No fish today
    I’m neither right nor wrong
    I am just another pawn
    In the royal hand
    Don’t expect me to rebel

    No fish today No fish today…
    No fish today…
    No fish today…

  118. Ruby
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    The thing I want to know about Humza Yousaf’s brother-in-law is he a she yet?

    “Hey, honey
    Take a walk on the wild side”

    You know it makes sense Ramsay or should I call you Ramona?

    “Doo do doo do doo do do doo…”

  119. TURABDIN
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    HARM….
    https://archive.ph/MqgTn
    Nothing like a stereotype….especially when seen from London. Hoots mon! Wotcha mite!
    The link, to a Times article about Scots types in advertising, may not work as archive site is flakey.
    As a towel headed camel jockey i sympathize….

  120. James Che
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    Mia.

    The Democracy of a “vote” having any related meaning in Scotland and Colonialism of Scotland.

    Both those issues are a long standing a part of Scotland history so much So that the UK parliament brazenly state on their parliament site in 2023/24 mention they decided not to give the Scots a vote to Join the Treaty of Union in 1707 after discussions on the subject at the time,

    In that uk parliament statement it admits the following by default in Scotlands history,

    1:
    That the people, the Scots never joined the treaty.
    2:
    That the Country of Scots is therefore a “1707 Colony” “without a vote” of the UK parliament.
    3:
    And that the UK parliament are fully aware and up to date regarding the Scots not being in the treaty of union and today,
    – as it was in 1707 there is no democracy in a vote that led to the Colonisation of Scotland or for imposing the branch office management devolved Government for destroying the Scots nation,

    The Uk parliament admit in Writing without the requirement or democracy of a vote the Scots are not in the treaty of union.

  121. Ruby
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    says:

    Shug
    Ignored
    says:
    16 January, 2024 at 12:27 pm

    Where do you think prince andrews forthcoming car crash will ve??

    Everyone is ignoring you Shug so let me help you out. Flip the five words per hour ruling.

    The Prince comes head to head with Emma on the A9. She’s driving on the wrong side of the road and the ‘fisherfolk’ have their rods out the windows. They got fed up waiting until they got to the sea! It was taking too long.

    The doctors are confused as to why the Prince has
    all these fish-hooks embedded in his flesh.

    The media get hold of the story about the fish hooks and then it all blows up on the internet & here at the ‘BTL University of Wings’ everyone speculates as to why the Prince has been ‘hooked’
    so often.

    But as is the norm it all blows over and we get back to discussing ‘serious matters’.

    No sign of any headlines saying ‘Ex First Minister Nicola Sturgeon arrested over a fall from grace and a serious driving incident involving a camervan, a mini-bus full of fisherfolk and a Royal electric Jaguar recently purchased from a certain Mr Murrell.

    Oh! Oh!

    That’s ‘UPPER CASE TURABDIN’ had is therapy it’s my turn now.

    Foutu mais content!
    C’est la vie!

    Ha! Ha! He! He! Ho! Ho!

  122. Confused
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    snatches of bbc politics while having coffee …

    some woman in red is saying, did I catch it right –

    “we need a deterrent to stop them coming over the border …”

    and then some tory cunt, a smug dude (why oh why can’t all these layabouts just become management consultants?) I think he is head of UKIP, but everyone knows that is really Farage, so what he is really is is some Poundshop-Fake-Farage-B1tch, so PSFFB says :

    “… send them back … ”

    and I think : Yes, these notions have merit, one cannot be failed to be impressed by their intellectual rigour

    THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO DEAL WITH THE -ANGLO- MENACE

    I agree.

    I hope I read that right. I was more concentrating on an iced ginger square.

    Richard Tice is the poundshop Farage; he is quite a creature, nasty. Thing is, south east England is full of these nasty, entitled, smug, vicious wee wankers, with their repellent, offensive views about how much they “subsidise” the rest of us (I hope the tax people look into him); I would consider his views as being “average”, which is useful, for sometimes I start going quite soft on the anglo and forget what they are … like you see the mogwai … and forget about the gremlin.

  123. James Che
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    Mia,

    My comments are a bit rushed due to many other issues at home, however I hope you can relate to the gist of those comments.

    It was in this same lack of regard for democracy that the political sphere of England annonce by letter and without evidence that Queen Anne of England, France and Ireland was the new Queen of Scotland and its kingdom.

    However when “Coronated” she never took the “Oath of Scotland” nor was she ever Coronated in any ceremony during her life time to become queen of Scots or its territory,
    She was to busy with the wars of England,

    The lack of Democracy and proper requirements to be Coronated as queen of Scots or taking the coronation Oath of Scotland in the separate kingdom of Scotland suggests that Queen Anne remained Queen of England,France and Ireland,

    Both the unofficial Status regarding Queen Anne of England actually being the Queen of Scots, and the statement that “Scots did not vote to join the treaty of Union” requires great imagination to link Scots to the Union with England.

    Indeed it requires great investigation (but no imagination) to realise that “only” those names signed on the treaty of union from Scotland are participants that are obliged to uphold their part of deal as individuals.

  124. James Che
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    Alf baird’s analyses that Scots are in a conceptual ( but now proven ) modern day Colony of Westminster starting from the 1707 date is pretty accurate,

    And the parliament of UK in 2023/2024 now confirm this position by stating “after discussion” ” it was decided not to give the Scots a vote to join as they would probably vote “No” to joining the Union.

    The Scotland Colony by the lack of democracy of a vote,

  125. TURABDIN
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    HARRY POTTER gets grown up suit.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12967197/Daniel-Radclifferae-red-carpet-appearance-partner-Erin-Darke-Emmy-Awards.html

    J K ROWLING laughs all the way to the bank

    https://archive.ph/MwBWe
    Archive link to Times article is flakey.

  126. sam
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    @TURABIN

    “Nothing like a stereotype….especially when seen from London. Hoots mon! Wotcha mite!”

    Alleged meanness of Scots isn’t in the r4cial slur database.Lots of other abuse is.

    http://www.rsdb.org/races#scottish

    To no surprise no nation, except the English, looks likely to r4cially slur theEnglish.

    http://www.rsdb.org/races#english

  127. Ruby
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    Your link works fine Turbie.

    It’s not just advertiser who do the stereotyping.

    Song writers are at it too. I’m looking at you ‘Pink Floyd Roger Waters’

    “Stand still laddie!

    If you don’t eat your *meat you can’t have any pudding.
    How can you have any **pudding if you don’t eat your meat?’

    There is also the issue of the C U Jimmy hats. Your towel oor hats with the red wigs.
    CU Jimmy hats sold in all these shops on the Royal Mile where Humza buys the tartan ties. ***One for everyday of the week.
    Does Ramsay have a tartan tat shop outlet?

    *updated to Tofu
    ** updated to banana
    *** back in the day we had knickers for everyday of the week. Remember those?
    I was often in a rush in the morning and went to working wearing the Sunday knickers on a Monday.
    Could be tricky if you had to go to hospital and the doctors questioned if you actually knew the day of the week.

    What day is it Ruby?
    Who is the First Minister of Scotland?
    and all these other questions one gets asked to test if you were ‘all there’

    Foutu mais content!
    C’est la vie!

    Ha! Ha! He! He! Ho! Ho!

    PS It’s Susan Calman we see in all the bank adverts. Tight???

    PPS I’ve got a special towel for my head when I wash my hair and believe it or not it is actually called ‘a Turbie’

    I’ve got a lot to say about stereotyping. Watch out Das Blimp you’ll be getting a mention.

  128. Ruby
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    Sadly I’ve got go and do some work.
    It’s a shame because I was having a lot of fun and love the stereotyping discussion.

    Just before I go for those who didn’t do O grade Art History and are interesting in the stereotyping of us Buckie swilling, deep fried Mars bars munchers, (with tartan added on to everything in a pejorative way) you should check out the work of Hogarth.

    This stereotyping goes way back to whenever Hogart was doing his toons.

    Cheerio, Adios, Hasta la vista

    Foutu mais content!
    C’est la vie!

    Ha! Ha! He! He! Ho! Ho!

  129. David Hannah
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    Humza Yousless brother in law re-arrested. For man being pushed or falling out of window.

    It wonder if it was a Sharia Law push?

    Imagine poisoning Dundee with six grand worth of heroin and crack and being granted bail.

    What a disgusting family you are Humza Yousaf. Your family of fucking criminals. You’re disgusting. Nadia El Nakla. Common as muck.

  130. David Hannah
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    Sturgeon also has form with throwing things out of windows. I wonder if she was there as the man fell from the window?

    Humza Yousaf. RESIGN you toss pot!

  131. dasBlimp
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    Watch out Das Blimp you’ll be getting a mention.

    Oh goody! Can’t wait (rollseyes)

  132. Republicofscotland
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    What the f*ck did Hanvey think was going to happen did he think it would actually pass in a foreign country’s parliament (England) a parliament that MUST hold onto Scotland to keep its own head above water. Hanvey by this action (asking) only gave this foreign country’s parliament credibility, we don’t need to ask a foreign country’s parliament to dissolve a treaty.

    If we want our independence we’ll need TO TAKE IT, for it won’t be given, power isn’t given ITS TAKEN.

    Also Tory, Labour and Lib/Dem MPs from Scotland are not members of Scottish political parties those parties don’t exist, there is no Scottish Labour/Lib/Dems/Tory parties registered with the Electoral Commission.

    You shouldn’t be able to vote for what doesn’t exist.

    ” WESTMINSTER bid to give Holyrood the power to legislate for a Scottish independence referendum has failed.

    Alba’s Neale Hanvey, the party’s group leader at Westminster, had proposed a Scotland (Self-Determination) Bill, which looked to amend the Scotland Act 1998 to transfer the power to hold an independence vote to the Scottish Parliament.

    Hanvey (below) used the London parliament’s 10-minute rule – which allows a backbench MP to make the case for a new bill in a speech lasting up to 10 minutes – to argue for his proposition on Tuesday.

    He was opposed by LibDem MP Christine Jardine.

    The House divided after the two MPs’ speeches and went to a vote. Deputy speaker Rosie Winterton announced that the bill would not move forward after the proposal was defeated by 228 votes to 48.

    The division list showed 38 SNP MPs and Conservative Philip Hollobone, the MP for Kettering, were among the MPs to support Hanvey’s bid.

    But 57 Tory MPs, 147 Labour and 13 Lib Dems were among those to oppose it.

    Ahead of the vote, Alba said the bill was being backed by SNP MPs Joanna Cherry, Douglas Chapman, and Carol Monaghan, independent MPs Angus MacNeil and Jonathan Edwards, and Plaid Cymru’s Liz Saville Roberts.

    Speaking in Parliament, Hanvey pointed to pledges made in the aftermath of the 2014 independence referendum, saying: “The all-party Smith Commission agreement was signed by all of Scotland’s main political parties: SNP, Labour, Tory and Liberal Democrats.

    “It stated: ‘It is agreed that nothing in this report prevents Scotland becoming an independent country in the future should the people of Scotland so choose.’

    “While each have failed to deliver on that commitment, this bill provides a necessarily equitable and democratic mechanism for the people of Scotland.”

    Hanvey added: “Should members of this chamber deny Scotland her legitimate claim on self-determination then it will have put beyond doubt that the voice of the people of Scotland is not welcome in this place and a new approach must be considered.””

  133. TURABDIN
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    DO NO HARM….
    A maxim most politicians imagine does not apply to their policies.
    https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/01/16/gays-against-starmer/
    Forget Rwanda, Iran has the answer.

  134. Vivian O’Blivion
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    Latest tranche of 13 Holyrood interns fae the John Smith Centre.
    Nine are on courses with Politics in the title.
    Not the worst batch from the JSC to be fair.
    Several claim to be from “working-class backgrounds”. Whether this means they are “working-class” or “Sir Keir Starmer working-class” is impossible to say.
    None put their sexuality or gender identity to the front and centre of their biographies. Not the usual grossly disproportional representation from non-Caucasians.
    Two could probably even open a new jar of pickles if requested (a 1st for the JSC).
    Interests include; gender-based violence & climate change. Wot no industrial policy?
    One lets the cat oot the bag in her bio.; “internship will equip me with … connections necessary for a successful career in Scottish politics”. Someone at the JSC (Promoting Trust in Politics & Public Service) really should be paying more attention with the editing.
    Infuriatingly, from hints in their biographies, the more sensible ones are probably being farmed out to Tory MSPs.

  135. Dan
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    Snow – WHITE!

  136. Jan Cowan
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    Tremendous work, Rev. Thank you.

  137. Alf Baird
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    Republicofscotland @ 2:55 pm

    “Hanvey by this action (asking) only gave this foreign country’s parliament credibility”

    On the other hand, Neale Hanvey and the ALBA Party have just demonstrated Scotland’s colonial situation; i.e. our nation is held captive by another, whose representatives block our rights.

    ‘Colonialism is force’, according to Prof Edward Said, much as we see in the actions of an imperial parliament.

    The colonial impasse will be further illustrated if Ash Regan’s parallel bill in the Scottish Parliament is voted through by a majority of Scotland’s MSPs.

  138. John Main
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    David Hannah

    People mysteriously falling from windows is a typical MO of Pres. P.

    Could be the Russtis are taking an innarest in Scotland’s politics.

    It’s usually the roof with the Sharia enthusiasts, but then again, they usually have flat roofs. Our culture could never have developed that idea – who wants to be clambering around on wet slates pitched at 45 degrees.

  139. TURABDIN
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    How’s this for a «conversion»
    https://archive.ph/Am7Zd
    Why do these people want to look like blow up sex dolls?
    He still has the hands and tats of a construction worker though.
    The West just gets crazier and crazier by the day.
    Any bets on who’ll win WW3? 🙂

  140. Ruby
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    dasBlimp
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    16 January, 2024 at 2:49 pm

    Watch out Das Blimp you’ll be getting a mention.

    Oh goody! Can’t wait (rollseyes)

    I tricked you, you big balloon. 🙂
    I was just checkin’ to see if you were reading my posts.
    You’ll no be gettin’ any mention *vis a vis stereotyping even if you are guilty of same.

    But hey you should definitely keep reading. My posts are PDB! Enjoy
    Ha! Ha! He! He! Ho! Ho!

    One thing I have to say about ‘das Blimp’ is he doesn’t have a man-baby sized hissy fit and start spouting a load of sexist abuse when I call him names. He ain’t no snowflake.

    Snowflake WHITE!

    He might be big balloon but at least he has a sense of humour.

    What are you saying Dan has the racist snow returned to your parts?
    Is it WHITE WHITE WHITE everywhere?

    Every time I see the WHITE stuff I say

    ‘Aw Naw Snaw’

    I don’t like snaw, the snaw coke, or even the diet stuff.
    These Tunnocks (Tnuc’s)Snaw Baws are even worse than the Tnuc’s TeaCakes.

    Are you sure it’s snaw Dan could it be a result of Ramsay trying to get rid of his baggies.
    Have you tasted it?

    Snawbaws!

    is ‘boule de neige’ in French. Blow me if that hasn’t now become part of British English

    I learned ‘boule de neige’ in O grade French. We had to read Jean Cocteau’s Les Enfants Terribles.

    That’s easy enough to translate even if you haven’t got your O grade French

    Enfants – Infants it’s practically the same word. Terribles – terrible same same.
    The French just add the S when there more than one of the terrible ones.

    *vis a vis that’s French too.

  141. Andy Ellis
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    @John Main 4.11pm

    Don’t give folk ideas! Defenestration has a fairly long history: the Czechs (or perhaps more correctly for the time the Bohemians) were particularly fond of it I seem to recall.

    The famous Third Defenestration of Prague was widely regarded as the precursor to the Thirty Years War. No roofs were involved….they just propelled the unfortunate victims out of windows.

  142. John Main
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    Guardian Online reporting that aid agencies in Yemen are claiming they are having to suspend activities because western forces are targeting the Hotties launching missiles and drones against Red Sea shipping.

    It’s truly astonishing that these aid agencies are feeding millions of civilians in Yemen while the Hotties running the place are spaffing cash on weapons and playing at soldiers.

    It’s truly astonishing that the aid agencies have absolutely no problems in operating while the Hotties are bombarding world shipping – maybes they see it as a cultural practice they have to respect, or some other woke virtue signalling.

    It’s truly astonishing that our TV screens are deluged with ads from these same aid agencies, begging for money from us, while they are saying we should allow the Hotties to drive ships from the Red Sea, sabotage our economy with increased costs, and thus cripple our ability to find the spare cash to pay for the aid in the first place!

    It’s shaping up to be Gaza all over again. Billions of dollars in aid spaffed on weapons, ammo and 500 km of hardened tunnels and bunkers in that place. Wonder what they’re buying in Yemen.

  143. David Hannah
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    According to the national records of Scotland. Humza is still married to his ex wife?

    He’s obviously forgot to file the divorce papers. Or does he believe in having more than one wife?

    Mhairi MaCallan. How did she get the job I wonder? Not on merit. That’s for sure.

  144. John Main
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    TURABDIN

    “Any bets on who’ll win WW3?”

    Sure. Nobody, that’s who.

    But to be serious. The Germans have twice taken on most of the world, and twice come close to winning. It’s only three generations since they fielded the finest fighting armies the world has ever seen. Three generations has not been nearly long enough to breed the instincts out of them. Once they wake up, for as long as they are on our side, we have a good chance.

  145. Stoker
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    Just throwing this one into the btl mix. This year, 2024, is a leap year. Why we have them and how they came about.

    Short version for those who can’t be bothered reading the long-winded archived article version: “The number of Earth’s revolutions is not the same as the time it takes for the Earth to get around the Sun. The Solar year is 365.2422 days long, a length which no calendar year can accommodate. By having leap years every four years we ensure that the months consistently match up with the seasons.”

    Scotland’s weather obviously hasn’t seen the memo. LOL! Weeds in my garden are still growing. Millions of the feck@rs.

    Considerably longer science blog article for all of you who enjoy reading/science etc. https://archive.is/rGZOm

  146. Andy Ellis
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    @Alf Baird 3.57pm

    Whether one accepts the “Scotland as colony” premise or not, the inevitable defeat of Hanvey’s proposed Bill is all part of a process that is necessary to make progress towards the goal of independence. The only reason Irish home rule became centred in Westminster politics in the late 19th & early 20th centuries was that Irish nationalist MPs were in a position to hold the balance of power.

    Unless that happens in future with Scottish nationalist parties, we can’t expect British nationalists to automatically honour the 2014 precedent and the Edinburgh Agreement for a rerun of indyref1. If the majority of Scots are no content to wait and trust that might happen, then they have to take, not ask.

    The necessary and most plausible next step is to ensure the independence movement and pro-independence parties announce plebiscitary elections, and state that 50% + 1 voting for them in ANY election will result in de facto independence, the details of which will be worked out by a convention, assembly or freshly elected Scottish parliament.

    Internal self determination presupposes having exhausted all the other means to achieve your goal: Westminster’s exhibited lack of good faith in refusing to recognise the right of Scottish MPs at Westminster, or MSPs at Holyrood, to hold a referendum or even transfer the power to do so, is all grist to the mill when it comes to gaining international recognition.

    If the Holyrood parliament votes in favour of having the power to hold a referendum transferred, and the UK government or Supreme Court strikes it down or refuses to recognise it, then the die is cast.

    All that remains then is to see whether the Scottish people have the political cojones to cross the Rubicon and take their independence, not politely crave Westminster’s permission to do so.

  147. Ruby
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    Defenestration?

    Is that what Ramsay has been charged with.

    I just made a guess. I learned fenestra in O grade. It’s the French for window.

  148. Dan
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    It’s a totes pure white oot here noo. And been well below zero for so long I still can’t manage to pull a leek dug out of my veg bed to make a soup as the soil is frozen solid like a rock.

    Thinking the #SnowploughsNotPronouns hashtag might get some purchase now seeing as the local cooncil chose to spaff cash on new ID cards with pronouns for their multitude of staff rather than save the dosh in these austere times for dealing with winter traffic infrastructure expenditure. But hey ho, priorities mean pandering to delusions is more important than keeping the roads and pavements safe.
    At least the drains I cleaned will allow the melt water away whenever the thaw comes.

    Just spoke to a neighbour who rents a property that had solar PV panels fitted strewn around the back garden last summer. She’s fookin ragin as it’s costing her a fortune to keep just one room warm. I didn’t think it appropriate to point out the “planet saving” panels weren’t getting any sun at all at this time of year as the surrounding buildings and trees completely obscure the sun’s rays.

  149. Dan
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    “a leek dug”
    WTF! I’d just like to point out this was a typo and not some hybrid veg meat combo I’ve developed.
    Though thinking about it I hear there may be a load of XL Bullies going spare so could be the time to get my Vietnamese cookbook out seeing as multiculturalism is so fashionable the noo.

  150. Hatuey
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    Who told the simpletons that the Red Sea was international waters?

  151. Breeks
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    Alf Baird
    Ignored says:
    16 January, 2024 at 3:57 pm
    Republicofscotland @ 2:55 pm

    “Hanvey by this action (asking) only gave this foreign country’s parliament credibility”

    On the other hand, Neale Hanvey and the ALBA Party have just demonstrated Scotland’s colonial situation; i.e. our nation is held captive by another, whose representatives block our rights…

    Kinda interesting that the SNP backed Hanvey. (Flynn and his Deputy weren’t there apparently), but it seems they’ve stopped walking out whenever ALBA gets up to speak, although one swallow doesn’t make a Summer.

    I confess, my reservations about the SNP now run so deep, I genuinely don’t know if I want them onside. Even Scotland United cannot accommodate a bunch of fickle charlatans. Maybe that’s why their positioning has softened… they know there’s a total howking coming their way next Election, and Scotland United might throw them a lifeline.

  152. Ruby
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    Stoker
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    16 January, 2024 at 4:57 pm

    Just throwing this one into the btl mix. This year, 2024, is a leap year. Why we have them and how they came about.

    Very interesting piece of info Stoker. Thanks for that.

    Will you be proposing on the 29th? Just checked and it’s a Thursday.

    Shame for the wee souls who only have a birthday every four years.

    Worse for those who are born in the wrong body and also born on the wrong day.

    Mums be kind and ask to be induced on the 28th or hang on until the 1st March.

  153. John Main
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    @Andy Ellis 4:38

    It’s a lot more difficult with the advent of double, and now triple, glazing.

    Unless you propel the victim at considerable speed, she just bounces straight back into the room. So I have been told.

    That’s why President P’s henchpeople are skilled at degrading window catches so that any investigation can conclude the victim must have suffered a simple, unlucky accident.

  154. John Main
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    @Ruby 5:29

    Surely it should be you popping the question to Stoker?

    But it’s a crying shame to see another fine old tradition dissolved to meaninglessness in the acid of the gender woo woo.

  155. Stoker
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    MSPs have voted to give themselves a 6.7% pay rise, taking their basic pay up by approximately £5,000 to £72,000. This follows an increase last year, 2023, of 1.5% and just over 3% in 2022. The new increase will come in to play from 1st April 2024.

    Seems to be a final raid on the tax loot before being sent back unemployed and disgraced to whatever rock they crawled out from. Money for auld rope if you ask me.

    Can’t think of one MSP who has earned it. Murdo Fraser must be thanking his lucky stars. Over 20-years of sitting on his arse doing nothing. And getting handsomely rewarded for doing so. He’ll be in good company with Sturgeon & Co.

  156. Hatuey
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    “Iran launches missile strikes in Iraq and Syria citing security threats”

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/15/irans-revolutionary-guard-attack-anti-iranian-groups-in-iraqs-erbil

  157. Anton Decadent
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    @Dan

    “Thinking the #SnowploughsNotPronouns hashtag might get some purchase now seeing as the local cooncil chose to spaff cash on new ID cards with pronouns for their multitude of staff rather than save the dosh in these austere times for dealing with winter traffic infrastructure expenditure. But hey ho, priorities mean pandering to delusions is more important than keeping the roads and pavements safe.”

    Dis the cloak of woke gie ye the boak?

    On the upside there’s a new Boris Blank album due for release next month.

  158. John Main
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    Stoker

    To be fair, Yousaf has just ramped up the Tartan Tax, so they need a hefty rise to compensate for that.

    Be honest now. If you had the power to do likewise, I bet you would too.

    I know I would.

    It’s around two and a half years til we can throw them out, so expect big rises again for two more years while they build up their slush funds.

  159. Stoker
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    Ruby says: “Shame for the wee souls who only have a birthday every four years.”

    And at the other end of the spectrum is the greed and opulence of the UK Monarch who has 2 birthdays every year. He, as was the case for his mother when she sat on the throne, will have his official (real) birthday.

    He will also have an official second birthday arranged for a month that historically produces better weather so the peasants can enjoy the celebrations watching ‘Trooping the Colour’ etc.

    Don’t you just love a bit of peasant participation eh?
    ________

    To John Main @ 5:34 pm.
    LOL! Behave yourself…

  160. Andy Ellis
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    The only parts of the Red Sea which are territorial waters of the states surrounding it are 12 nautical miles from their territory(UNCLOS, Article 3).

    The narrowest point of the Bab el-Mandab strait between Djibouti and Yemen is only 14 nautical miles wide, so ships necessarily enter the territorial water of those countries to pass through the straits. Under UNCLOS Article 37 however the legal concept of “transit passage” applies. Yemen is a signatory, not that the Houthis will be that concerned with the treaty obligation of course.

    Each state then has an Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) of up to 200 miles – or an agreed midpoint if it overlaps with another country’s EEZ which it will in the Red Sea because it isn’t 400 miles wide.

    “A coastal nation has control of all economic resources inside its exclusive economic zone, including fishing, mining, oil exploration, and pollution of those resources. However, it cannot prohibit passage or loitering above, on, or under the surface of the sea that complies with the laws and regulations adopted by the coastal state in accordance with the provisions of the UN Convention, within that portion of its exclusive economic zone beyond its territorial sea.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_waters

  161. Ruby
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    Super creeps gotta creep!

  162. dasBlimp
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    Ruby
    Ignored says:
    16 January, 2024 at 4:36 pm
    dasBlimp
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    16 January, 2024 at 2:49 pm

    Watch out Das Blimp you’ll be getting a mention.

    Oh goody! Can’t wait (rollseyes)

    I tricked you, you big balloon. ?
    I was just checkin’ to see if you were reading my posts.
    You’ll no be gettin’ any mention *vis a vis stereotyping even if you are guilty of same.

    I Wouldn’t miss your posts, Ruby. You make more sense than most on here even though you are completely bonkers (but still relatively sane compared to the likes of James Che) He’s a raspberry that fell out of the bush long before his time. I just made that one up – I’m dead clever me.

  163. Republicofscotland
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    Hatuey. 5.47pm.

    Yes strikes on vipers nests illegally squatting in Syria were targeted.

    “the IRGC said the force “successfully” managed to launch missile attacks on an espionage center of the Israeli regime’s Mossad spy agency in the Iraqi Kurdistan Region and a gathering place of commanders and main elements linked to anti-Iran terrorist activities, especially the Daesh Takfiri terrorist group, in Syria’s northwestern province of Idlib.”

    “The IRGC said the force fired four Kheibar Shekan (fortress buster) missiles from Iran’s southwestern province of Khuzestan to Idlib, adding that four missiles were launched from the west, and seven more from the northwest of the country to the Mossad spy headquarters in Erbil in Iraq’s Kurdistan Region.”

    The Wests regional war takes a step closer to reality.

  164. Milady
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    Cracking article Rev (that reminded me to send you a donation). What an effin mess this government is though. The GE can’t come soon enough. I cannot wait for the chance to give them the kicking they so thoroughly deserve.

  165. Republicofscotland
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    “Kinda interesting that the SNP backed Hanvey. (Flynn and his Deputy weren’t there apparently), but it seems they’ve stopped walking out whenever ALBA gets up to speak, although one swallow doesn’t make a Summer.”

    Breeks.

    My take on SNP MPs backing Hanvey is that with a GE on the cards later on in the year, this action by them is one of self-interest, as you say I’m quite surprised they got behind the bill, however the SNP MPs have been at Westminster long enough to know that even if they did back Hanvey’s bill they would still be vastly outnumbered and it wouldn’t pass, a shrew move if you ask me.

    I think we’ll find the SNP will act bit more keenly towards independence, speaking about it and voting on matters to do with it in this a GE year.

  166. Den
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    The UK Covid inquiry won’t see all the Scottish Government evidence as it appears records of several key meetings between Nicola Sturgeon and her advisers appear not to have been kept. Well well, tickle ma tits till friday didn’t see that one coming … The SNP have no shame they are Scotlands disgrace.

  167. Sven
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    dasBlimp @ 18.16.

    Careful dBlimpster, you’ll be telling us that you “crack yourself up” next … not a gr8 look (though it would fit on a T shirt, right enough).

  168. Viscount Ennui
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    A question for Alf Baird who I respect but often disagree with:

    Would you, or should we, entrust independence to the current SNP?

    Supplementary:

    If not, what is the route to independence under the current electoral system?

    My own view is that the SNP is so corrupt and incompetent that it would be dangerous to vote ‘Yes’.

    As a supporter of self-determination.

  169. Geri
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    Well done, Stu, for sticking with this beyond the intro..

    Emma Roddick is mental & her mission seems to be to have us all join her there. How on earth did she ever pass the selection process with a mental & personality disorder?

    Oh, that’s right, its fashionable to have a disorder with these fckwits.

    What a pile of shite this is & it’s a scandal that hundreds of thousands of ££££s, parliamentary time & effort is being wasted on this utter bollocks that’ll never see the light of day unless we all have a labotomy & succumb to the thought police.

    Where are all the supposed lawyers, policy advisors & civil servants? Do they all have a fckin mental illness too?

    Dear Scotland…

    I need you to wake the fck up now!

    Can we stop electing people who are mentally deranged?

    Just Gonnae no?

    The joke’s over. It wisnae funny.

    2026 can’t come fast enough.

    Can we please have adults back in the room? In 3…2…

  170. Dan
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    @ RoS at 6.47 pm

    Exactly, the Alba Party has only recently formed, so one might ponder why nobody in the SNP bothered their arses to submit such a bill in the many previous years…
    Nowt but self-serving twats…
    And why would a Scotland United pact want to include a load of what are effectively BritNats happy doing fuck all for Scotland within the current constitutional setup.

  171. Mia
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    “Hanvey by this action (asking) only gave this foreign country’s parliament credibility”

    I agree.

    I do not understand at all why Alba had to give England MPs the right to veto this transference of powers and I am not happy about this move. In fact, I am disappointed, to be frank.

    To me, this comes across as yet another maneuver to add yet another unnecessary obstacle to the progress of Scotland towards independence. Another totally unnecessary move to legitimise the myth that Scotland is a region of this Great Britain rather than one of its founding members that can end it tomorrow if its MPs ever find the backbone they lost 300 years ago.

    As if we did not have enough fabricated obstacles in the mountain already piled up by Sturgeon and Yousaf, now we have been handed another one, courtesy of our own MPs.

    I do not understand why pro-independence parties insist in handing over to England MPs the power to decide when Scotland can become independent at every opportunity, knowing full well that, if given a right to veto, England MPs will exercise it every time.

    So what is the effing point? It is a waste of Scotland’s time which only makes sense when what you are after is procrastinating.

    Scotland’s power to unilaterally end the Treaty of Union lies with Scotland’s MPs, not England’s. England’s MPs hold the power to unilaterally end the treaty on behalf of England, but not Scotland. So what was the point of this move? Was this to reinforce the myth that we need permission from Westminter to even breath?

    Oh come on. Enough already. We know our MPs can end the union tomorrow if they so wish. The power to call a referendum on Scotland’s independence does not lie with England’s MPs. It is none of their effing business. It lies with Scotland’s MPs, so why the hell were England MPs invited to this vote? Who do England Mps represent in Scotland? When did Scotland become the property of England?

    This vote should have taken place only among Scotland’s MPs and then, if passed, our MPs should have simply advised the monarch that the powers go to Holyrood. That vote should have passed because we have a pro-indy majority. The only reason I can think of for handing the veto to England MPs is to use them as the safeguard to ensure the SNP troughers could safely vote for the transfer of powers knowing it would never happen. I wouldn’t be surprised that if the vote was hold only among Scotland’s MPs, the troughers in the SNP would have voted against.

    I am seriously losing my patience now. I am sick and fed up of this constant undermining of Scotland’s sovereignty by our own MPs. I am now at the point that I do not see any reason whatsover for Scotland to waste its time sending MPs to WEstminster. What is the effing point in sending them there, when the only thing they are doing is procrastinating in the ending of the effing treaty and making us watch in disgust how they hand over Scotland’s sovereignty to England MPs and how they validate Scotland’s abuse by that parliament?

    Enough already. It is starting to look like ISP might be the only political party who is serious about independence and the only one who is willing to stop the pointless charade of sending MPs to Westminter, the only one willing to stop handing over Scotland’s sovereignty to England MPs.

    Handing over Scotland’s sovereignty to England MPs and inviting them to veto Scotland’s right to exercise self-determination only makes sense if what our own Mps are after is to deflect from the fact it has been them who have been stopping Scotland’s independence since 2015 by refusing to terminate the effing treaty once and for all.

  172. Scot Finlayson
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    This mess/madness is being repeated in most western progresive left governments,
    Canada,Ireland,Australia,New Zealand,US ….

    it will only get worse for all UK woman and girls when British Labour become next UK Government.

    the transcult will be unstoppable.

    Scary times ahead for 30,000,000 UK woman and girls.

  173. George Ferguson
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    @Geri 6:56pm
    I wish the gender orientation obsession was costing only a few hundred K. It is costing ten of millions of pounds. The 50 million pounds misplaced on the Census for example. I can only estimate up to 8 million in additional costs based on the Census delay, one month extension and the attempted recovery exercise. Of course it is not just the Scot Government but also Institutions (NRS)and the judgments of the Judiciary. Perhaps the last chance to rescue the Scottish Census was in February 2022 and the Court of Session Judicial Review brought by Fair Play for Women. They asked for the guidance for question 3 be similar to the Court Order in England whereby the birth certificate or GRC was to be used when answering what sex you were. However their case was dismissed. And thus allowed the guidance in Scotland to include self-identification without a GRC when answering the female/male question. A fundamental difference between the two Censuses. The rest is now history.

    https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/docs/default-source/cos-general-docs/pdf-docs-for-
    opinions/2022csih7.pdf?sfvrsn=32de7ae4_1

    Overall we could say the 2011 and 2021(2022) Censuses was the difference between a competent FM Alex Salmond and an incompetent FM Nicola Sturgeon

  174. Hatuey
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    Paltering Ellis: “The only parts of the Red Sea which are territorial waters of the states surrounding it are 12 nautical miles from their territory(UNCLOS, Article 3).”

    Thanks for taking the time to learn something and confirming that the Red Sea is not international waters. That sort of thing ought to be encouraged.

    You’re now in a good position to look into the significance of the island of Perim, bearing in mind the established 12 mile exclusion zone referenced by you above.

  175. George Ferguson
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    Apologies link to Court of Session case in full

    https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/docs/default-source/cos-general-docs/pdf-docs-for-
    opinions/2022csih7.pdf?sfvrsn=32de7ae4_1

  176. Republicofscotland
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    “This vote should have taken place only among Scotland’s MPs and then, if passed, our MPs should have simply advised the monarch that the powers go to Holyrood. That vote should have passed because we have a pro-indy majority. The only reason I can think of for handing the veto to England MPs is to use them as the safeguard to ensure the SNP troughers could safely vote for the transfer of powers knowing it would never happen. I wouldn’t be surprised that if the vote was hold only among Scotland’s MPs, the troughers in the SNP would have voted against.”

    Mia.

    I share your anger, we expected Alba to tread a different, a more radical path than the SNP, this isn’t that path, and I’m disappointed, why oh why does our indy MPs feel the need to given credence to this foreign parliament unless its to preserve the status quo.

    On your last point above we’ll probably never know but I suspect you are correct on that.

    The Alba party in my opinion needs to step outside the box looking towards what Scots think rather than legitimising the West minster political sphere by introducing bills in the HoC, bills that will almost certainly be shotdown.

    I fear that Alba current position with Westminster in mind is to get as many MPs into the HoC as possible, again legitimising it, the only way I’d feel comfortable about that is if the elected Alba MPs openly and vigorously showed that they were working on a way of exiting the HoC sooner than later.

    We’ve had an indy majority of MPs at Westminster for a few years now yet we’re not any closer to ditching the union because they’ve put self-interest and party interest ahead of an entire nations interests, I’m hoping Alba MPs won’t be the same.

  177. Republicofscotland
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    Dan @7.01pm.

    If nothing else Hanvey’s vote shows clearly that Scottish indy minded MPs CANNOT change anything in this foreign country’s parliament, our MPs remaining at this alien parliament only gives it credibility over Scotland.

    Remember this so called union only works if our politicians play along with it. Once they stop the games up, but they won’t stop because there’s a good living to be made out of it.

  178. Republicofscotland
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    “The First Minister can amend the Scotland Act 1998 by Order, as the Keeper of the Scottish Seal, and there’s nothing WM or the Privy Council can do to stop him.

    Our representatives are lying when they say WM must approve a s30(2) Order. It’s blatant lying.”

    https://nitter.net/Profcomma/status/1747332502673387794#m

  179. Republicofscotland
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    This from a couple of years back, but I doubt like Brexit the English government would give the English people a vote on this incase they voted to end the union.

    https://archive.is/oeuq5

  180. David Hannah
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    SNP MPs just debated in Westminster on allowing Scotland the power to hold a referendum on Independence in their own parliament. Labour voted against.

    And Mhairi Black and baldy c*nt Stephen Flynn didn’t bother turning up to vote.

    Fucking rats.

  181. David Hannah
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    I’ll not share the link to the daily express that’s covering the story.

    But it was the Alba Party Bill on the referendum powers.

    And Stephen Flynn and Mhairi Black didn’t turn up.

    Fucking horrible horrible bastards. SNP scum out now.

  182. Mark Beggan
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    Where are they now?

    Sturgeon’s Storm Troopers.

    Gay Lords in ill fitting suits intimidating pensioners, Blue haired dykes pretending they know what’s good for your children, Big mouth bully boys, sexual predators, thieves, scammers, opportunists, Social
    Science degree dunces, mad dogs and Englishmen.

    Where are they now.

  183. Tommo
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    ark Beggan
    Ignored says:
    16 January, 2024 at 8:57 pm
    Where are they now?
    Science degree dunces, mad dogs and Englishmen.’

    Wad that auld Yousaf of Gigh(a) had hearkened tae the words of Pitscottie; dinnae march agin the Sassenachs wi’ nuthin’ mare tae yer train than sam blue-haired followers- nae guid will come of it

  184. Shug
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    Ruby
    Nice to see you again sensible

  185. Ruby
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    One thing ye cannae defenestrate is the jeelie piece

    Seven hundred hungry weans will testify tae that
    If it’s butter, cheese or jeely
    If the breid is plain or pan
    The chances of it reaching earth are ninety nine tae wan

    On the first day ma maw flung oot a daud o’ Hovis broon
    It came skytin’ oot the windae and went up insteid o’ doon
    Noo every twenty-seven hours it comes back intae sight
    ‘Cause ma piece went intae orbit and became a satellite

    Defenestrate FFS

    Whits wrang wi saying

    ‘chucked oot the windae.

    Ha Ha Ha Yer bum has been defenestrated.

    http://tinyurl.com/sjdventj

    This is great I actually learned a new piece of slang. ‘air biege’ I’d never hear that before.

    Guan yersel he says is a sign of encouragement. Not something you often get in Scotland.

    That is true. Worth a discussion. Has that any connection to us being a colony?

    Jobby he reckons is the sweetest word for shite. That’s true it might be more like a poo.

    I’ll have to watch it again. I don’t think he did:
    Awa’ n bile your heid
    Pure dead brilliant
    Gonnae no’ dae that!
    Ma heid’s mince
    Yer a balloon
    and many many more.

    A balloon in Scottish slang?. Someone prone to doing daft things.

    I’m not sure if oor das Blimp knows Scottish slang. He might be a Gordie, Brummie, Cockney or even a German. Das is German but that might be short for Dashiel (that’s a flippin’ posh name laddie!)
    Ach How knows he may even identify as a Dashund.

    I’ve just read that jobbie in Doric means something different.

    He’s doon the lobbie doing a wee jobbie could just mean that’s he’s doon the lobbie sweeping the flair or some other minor chore.

    I find languages, slang & words fascinating.

    BTW Dashiel, James Che is a lady. She bought her ipad on Ebay from a bloke called James Che. His Wings log-in details were on the ipad so she just started to use it.

    I hope that is correct!

    Flippin FFS! It’s just not the same!

    But hey ‘I’m doing it for Sven!’

    Is Sven sveedish?

    I just crack myself up!

  186. Ruby
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    Shug
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    16 January, 2024 at 9:56 pm

    Ruby
    Nice to see you again sensible

    That could mean different things like the phrase

    ‘Eat shoots and leaves’

    Are you saying it’s nice to see me being sensible again (where was that exactly?)
    or are you suggesting I used to post as Sensible Dave?

  187. Hatuey
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    RoS: “why oh why does our indy MPs feel the need to given credence to this foreign parliament unless its to preserve the status quo.”

    That’s one way of looking at it. Maybe, though, having it on the record that they’ve systematically blocked democratic routes to independence will serve our purpose at a later date. Let’s not forget that is exactly what they are doing.

  188. Geoff Anderson
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    Apart from Black and Flynn who were the other three SNP MPs who couldn’t be arsed to turn up?

  189. Charles ((not the R one)
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    MSPs are set for a pay rise of 6.7 per cent, boosting their salary to more than £72,000 for the year 2024-25.

    The salary of First Minister Humza Yousaf rises to more than £170,000.

    Plus expenses, perks,and a large pension for life.

    Nice work if you can get it.

  190. John Main
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    RoS 6:39

    Seems that Russti military personnel in Syria are counted in the thousands.

    You’ve already used “vipers nest”. Can I use “scorpions lair”?

    Seems the Iranian regime hasn’t just been pointing all their weaponry at their own and other people’s women and girls. They’ve been spreading it all around every group of nutters with a grudge in the ME. Too bad if some of it gets repurposed to take out some of the scorpions. Plausible deniability and that.

    It’s a mess eh? Rational Scots, unlike you, don’t keep cheering it on. But what goes around, comes around.

  191. John Main
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    @Hatuey 8:08

    You don’t have the credibility to prognosticate on nautical matters. Not everybody on here has the memory of a goldfish, soz.

  192. Mark Beggan
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    Sound advice from the NHS this winter. Walk like a penguin and you will avoid lying in the street for a few days till an ambulance comes.

  193. Ruby
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    Oh flippin’Hell!

    It’s like deja vu all over again.

    deja-vu that’s French.

  194. Alf Baird
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    Viscount Ennui @ 6:54 pm

    “Would you, or should we, entrust independence to the current SNP?”

    That is a hypothetical question.

    “what is the route to independence under the current electoral system?”

    Withdrawal of a majority of Scotland’s MP’s from Westminster would mean the UK parliament cannot lawfully legislate for Scotland because representation of Scotland’s MPs is a condition of the Articles of Union.

  195. Ruby
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    George Ferguson
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    16 January, 2024 at 7:50 pm

    @Geri 6:56pm
    I wish the gender orientation obsession was costing only a few hundred K.

    I wish the gender orientation obsession cost not a single penny. I wish there was no law that said men can become women.

    It’s the maddest thing I have ever heard.

    The law is mad, the politicians who support this law are mad.

    Alba really don’t seem to be doing much about it.

    Nothing is going to change as long as there is a law stating that men can change sex and become women.

    Rishi & Kemi might be fooling you into thinking they don’t believe men can become women all the while there is UK legislation in place which says precisely that they can.

    I will only believe the Tories and Alba for that matter have any interest in women & children’s rights if they admit that the GRA 2004 was a huge mistake and should be repealed.

    I don’t hear Alex Salmond, Joanna Cherry, Kemi Badenoch, Rushi Sunak or any politician saying that.

    You can’t issue a man with a certificate stating in the eyes of the law he is a woman then forbid him from participating in women’s sport or refuse to send him to a woman’s prison.

    If children see adults changing sex, their father, uncle brother,grand father becoming a woman then they are going to think they might like to do that too.

    You can’t tell a man he must spend two years living as a woman and and expect him to keep out of women’s sport, changing rooms, toilet, shelters, prisons etc

    Basically the GRA allows them to ‘self-id’ as women.

    Transwomen are women because UK law says they are.

    This is a repeat I’ve been saying the same thing for the last three years.

  196. James Barr Gardner
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    O/T
    Anybody come across the Vince Littler character recently ?

    https://grousebeater.wordpress.com/2021/07/22/the-arrogant-englishman/

  197. PacMan
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    Anton Decadent 16 January, 2024 at 11:33 am

    With regard to Scandinavia here is an article which was in the Guardian twelve days ago. It mentions how Sweden is now second only to Albania for gun crime in Europe, can anyone spot the elephant in the room missing from the article, one of a number of things which much never be spoken of in a negative manner in the Soros and Gates funded Guardian and many other ‘news’ outlets?

    https://web.archive.org/web/20240104185736/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/04/why-sweden-is-failing-gang-violence-rapper-sebastian-stakset

    On that note whilst looking into NGOs in Scotland I found this list of ones catering for those deemed vulnerable.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20240112163050/https://ngobase.org/stwa/GB.SC/VNG/vulnerable-groups-ngos-charities-scotland

    Ah, the old tropes of International J@wry and J@w money being used to destroy our society.

    I don’t see John Main calling out this anti-S@mitism. Of course he won’t as it doesn’t conflict with British Foreign policy.

    Maybe you should go onto the Guardian instead and highlight this?

  198. PacMan
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    TURABDIN 16 January, 2024 at 4:16 pm

    How’s this for a «conversion»
    https://archive.ph/Am7Zd
    Why do these people want to look like blow up sex dolls?
    He still has the hands and tats of a construction worker though.
    The West just gets crazier and crazier by the day.
    Any bets on who’ll win WW3?

    Had to laugh at that as the individual even looked freakish before the transition.

    It looks like all those years of pumping steroids into your body not only affects your body but also your brain.

  199. sarah
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    Rev, I presume that you saw Libby Brooks’ interview with Emma Roddick in the Guardian of 10th January.

    It was noticeable that Brooks seemed to find no weakness in Roddick’s views. Nor did she mention Roddick’s age, employment or educational attainments.

    What about sending your article to Brooks and the Guardian editor to help them cover the issue better?

  200. Karen
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    The next policy Alba should put to HoC: Scotland should get bigger / earlier pensions since we don’t live as long. Another subsidy to Southeast Engerland. Only indigenous Scots, obviously.

  201. Ruby
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    What about Ramsay is he calling himself Ramona yet.

    Wasn’t there an incident previously where a justice secretary wrote a letter on behalf of a Scottish Asian trying to get him off? Can’t remember what the charges were. Drug charges?

    Who is the justice secretary now? Would the First Minister ex justice secretary have an equal amount of influence over the judiciary or whatever as his justice secretary. He could always instruct his justice secretary to write the letter.

    It’s his brother in law FFS. You’ve always got to help the family.

    If his justice secretary wasn’t very bright & maybe short of cash and needed a loan he/she might just do what they are told.

    What I am asking is if the justice secretary will be writing a letter on behalf of Ramona?

    Still wondering why the crooks in the SNP favour the not so bright?

  202. Effijy
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    Britnat news rejoicing on Scotland’s A & E times are deteriorating.
    No point in mentioning the dire figures long established in England or even worse again Iain
    Labour’s NHS Wales.

    Could the fact that Tory Brexit chased of thousands of EU NHS workers?
    Could it be the thousands in fees Commonwealth NHS workers have to pay for work permits.
    Perhaps 14 years of underfunding by the Tories played a part and possibly the multiple strikes forces upon Doctors and Nurses have contributed.

    The Tories are slowly preparing everything to make you take out medical insurance and treatment in private hospitals.

    This will ensure the weak and those unable to work will die off and all the money saved by the government will make the filthy rich stinking filthy rich.

    It’s only right.
    When was the last time King Charles got a new crown?
    When was the last time the UK’s richest entrepreneur spent billions buying into yet another sports club?
    Last week actually.

  203. Lynn
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    @Scott Finlayson
    I think you have a good point .
    This could get worse .
    I am hearing lots of noise but no solutions on tackling these issues .
    I have sent the first political activists away with my concerns and will do with any other that may come . My own MSP and MP don’t bother replying to emails that concerns a subject they don’t like despite it being raised in the most gentle of terms .
    I have serious misgivings about all current political parties and don’t intend to vote unless I am voting with confidence for someone I can believe in . I am
    Not here to endorse career politicians , opportunists or pressure groups . Perhaps a vote of no confidence in the entire political system would send more of a message as none appears to have penetrated yet ,
    So I will spoil my papers .
    Previously I have been a tactical voter but no longer feel convicted to maintain that strategy.
    There seems little to separate the parties and if independence is the main driver of the SNP you could have fooled me . I have sat for years waiting for my questions to be answered about independence to see if it’s something I could sign up for too, it seems a big leap of faith and the current ruling party seem more willing to run over the will of the Scottish people than represent it . Meanwhile the brain drain continues . All I hear from you people is them moving abroad .
    Rev … how are the viewing numbers for these articles . Please tell me there is a lot of traffic and people are engaging ! Give us some hope .

  204. Mark Beggan
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    Deep throat says,

    Follow the money.

  205. Ruby
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    TURABDIN 16 January, 2024 at 4:16 pm

    How’s this for a «conversion»
    https://archive.ph/Am7Zd
    Why do these people want to look like blow up sex dolls?

    You want to know why they want to look like blow up sex dolls.
    They want to be ‘sissified’
    You need to read about ‘sissy’

    They want to look like blow up sex dolls because that is what they think women are.

    Sissy is just one of the many fetishes that is part of the trans movement.
    They are all pretty disgusting but ‘Sissy’ is they most misogynistic.

    This is not just ‘woman face’ this is woman as blow-up doll.

    In his book Females, trans-identifying male writer, Andrea Long Chu, writes:

    “Sissy porn’s central conceit is that the women it depicts are in fact former men who have been feminized (‘sissified’) by being forced to wear makeup, wear lingerie, and perform acts of sexual submission. At the center of sissy porn lies the asshole, a kind of universal vagina through which femaleness can always be accessed. Getting f*cked makes you female because f*cked is what a female is.”

    Alex Cole Hamilton did it for the Sissy Beth.

    We are expected to accept that folk like Beth should be ‘sissified’ on the NHS so they can turn themselves into a blow-up doll and be degraded and fucked like a woman.

    There are loads of articles, books, videos blogs about what Graham Linehan describes as ‘Sissy porn, the gender movement’s dirty secret’

    You’ll find the answer to your question

    ‘Why do these people want to look like blow up sex dolls?’

    if you do a bit of reading.

    Sissy is not the only gender movement’s dirty secret.

  206. Mac
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    Well, well…

    President of the big furry hat wearing country in the east confirms the 2020 US elections were ‘falsified’.

    And guess how they did it. Postal votes. Sound familiar?

    https://archive.is/kZjXg

  207. Xaracen
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    Alf Baird said:
    17 January, 2024 at 1:08 am
    “Withdrawal of a majority of Scotland’s MP’s from Westminster would mean the UK parliament cannot lawfully legislate for Scotland because representation of Scotland’s MPs is a condition of the Articles of Union.”

    The lords’ interpretation, in their consideration of whether restricting hereditary lords from attending Parliament would breach the Treaty, was that Scottish representation required to be adequate, but neglected to determine what that even meant. My take on that is that if the Scots MPs cannot properly promote and defend the interests of their Kingdom, country, nation, territory and people of Scotland from predation by England’s MPs within the Union’s parliament, then its representation is inadequate because unfit for purpose. I do not consider 45 to meet the requirement of adequacy under the current voting system in Westminster.

    If the Scots MP numbers drop below the Treaty’s specification of 45, that must be taken as ‘inadequate representation’, and so it wouldn’t require the majority of Scots MPs to withdraw in order to cripple Westminster, just enough to leave 44 or less.

    In addition, I think in that situation, England’s MPs couldn’t legislate at all, because England’s MPs do not represent the Union on their own in the first place, and the Union’s parliament isn’t their old English parliament any more. They simply don’t have the authority to legislate on their own at all, even for English-only matters. The Scots MPs would never be allowed to legislate on their own, so why should England’s be allowed to? The Treaty doesn’t mandate any such thing.

    Coming back to my assertion that 45 manifestly doesn’t meet the requirement of adequacy under the current voting system in Westminster, that is because Westminster’s voting system is ludicrously inappropriate in the context of the Union’s constitutional structure, where each of the two bodies of MPs represent an entire sovereign kingdom, country, nation, territory and people to the other in the House of Commons for the purposes of negotiating the joint governance of their two territories.

    Neither of the two representations is entitled to any authority over the other, and the Treaty provides no such authority to either of its two equally sovereign Treaty Principals. The assumption that a simple majority voting system would be used in the new Union parliament was never more than an assumption, because it is nowhere stated in the Treaty nor its two Acts of ratification, thus was never formally agreed and ratified, and thus carries no legal or constitutional standing in the Union at all.

    And of course, it isn’t even remotely democratic; you cannot take those two bodies of MPs who represent entirely different sovereign kingdoms and treat them as a single homogenous group in a simple flat majority vote to identify a ‘joint’ decision. That is not just democratically inept, that is a democratic atrocity!

    It can be ditched or amended without breaching the Treaty, nor any constitution worth the name, and it doesn’t even require changing the numbers of MPs of either kingdom.

    A simple amendment to the voting system, requiring a simple majority vote from each body counted separately, would make the absolute numbers of either body irrelevant, and any matter being debated on could only pass as Union legislation if both bodies voted yes.

    If that had been done three hundred years ago the Union would be a very different place today.

  208. Ruby
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    This post contains adult content. I make no apologies because if you are looking to understand what ‘trans’ is you’ll need to read a fair bit of adult content.

    Do you think it’s difficult for white men to fully understand how insulting women find ‘woman face?

    ‘Woman face’ is bad enough but ‘woman blown up doll face’ is on another level.

    They are doing it for the Sissies.

    I’m wondering if Alex Cole Hamilton likes to fuck a Sissie.

    Maybe his wife doesn’t put up with being degraded and fucked like a blow up doll hence the reason he did it for Beth.

    The trans movement is 100% misogynistic

  209. John Main
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    PacMan 7:54

    I didn’t see anything that needed calling out. To use my favourite “dog and tail” analogy, the tail, if allowed to grow unchecked, ends up wagging the dog. None of this is new, or rocket science.

    That’s equally true, whether we are discussing white sizzlers heading up the M6 with all their possessions in a Pickfords van, or non-white dinghy passenger crims stuffing the gangmaster’s pockets with thousands in cash to facilitate their setting up a lucrative drugs dealing network.

    It may be the case that when asked to rank these in descending order of risk to Scottish Indy, my answer would be different to most regulars on here, but that’s a minor detail.

    We can always ask who’s in the FM chair this morning, and we find it’s not a white sizzler.

    Not that HY’s folks came here in a dinghy. Of course not. They came here legally to cash in and get rich. A bit of real power and influence in the family helps too.

    While I’m on, a bit of a stushie this morning in Pakistan, following yesterday’s Iranian missile strikes on sovereign Pakistani territory. I kinda wish HY had maintained a dignified silence in the period since October 7th. He is now going to have to tread a difficult line between being pro-Iran and pro-Pakistan. My heart bleeds for him.

  210. auld highlander
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    What kind of government would allow human waste, sewage sludge, or whatever you want to call it to be injected into the fields.

    This waste is transported by large articulated tanker trucks to the fields then it is injected into the soil.

    Just think of all the other chemical waste that goes down your kitchen sink or gets flushed away. Then there is the stuff like water based paints and even turps when you clean your paint brushes.

    What about the drugs and medications. It all ends up in the same drains as the human waste.

    Biosolids they call it but I just call it crap.

    There’s plenty online about it so just have a read of these links.

    Enjoy your next meal folks.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20240107021241/https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/nov/18/cocktail-toxins-poisoning-fields-humans-sewage-sludge-fighting-dirty

    https://web.archive.org/web/20230819011456/https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/05/biosolids-toxic-chemicals-pollution

    https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2020/02/04/sewage-sludge-landspreading-environment-agency-report/#:~:text=Farmland%20is%20the%20ultimate%20destination,over%20agricultural%20land%20each%20year.

    It’s the cheap easy way to get rid of the stuff. Just remember shat the SS Shieldhall used to do.

  211. John Main
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    @Xaracen

    WM GE coming up soon. I am very happy for a Scottish political party to campaign on a simple platform – vote for us and if elected, we won’t take our seats and therefore make it impossible for WM to legislate.

    Run this up the flagpole – see how many of the Scottish electorate salute.

    Doesn’t have to be an established party either. A new one can be formed for this express purpose. After all, the manifesto needs only one principle to be agreed – that of not going to WM!

  212. Merganser
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    Alf Baird @ 1.08 says: “That’s a hypothetical question”.

    Hmm. It may, or may not be, but it is still a question worthy of an answer.

    Come on Alf, give it your best shot! People value your views.

  213. TURABDIN
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    What AMERICA does we can do also.
    https://archive.ph/OBDdq
    Another spin of the WW3 roulette wheel.
    Faites vos jeux….

  214. Johnlm
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    Main is a laugh.
    Saves the rest of us trawling the BBC sites to find out what London thinks.

    Iran bombing Pakistan is unacceptable.
    NATO bombing Pakistan is acceptable.

    Blowing gas pipelines are acceptable.
    Stopping Isntraeli trade through the Red Sea is unacceptable.

    Rumours of shootings of women (in Iran?) are unacceptable. – correct if true.
    Bombing Gaza, Iranian funerals and Iraqi weddings is acceptable.

    Could only find mention of 3 alleged defenestrations in Rus since 2022.
    The Clinton body count seems to be somewhere over 50 at present.

    The praise of the Wehrmacht was a bit misjudged I thought

  215. Ruby
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    I’m quite serious this morning. It always happens when I talk about the trans.

    Would you prefer me to be more bonkers and less serious.

    I’m not talking about being ‘Serious Dave’. Yer man Shug suggested that I may have formerly posted as serious Dave now that is absolutely flippin’ bonkers. I’m guessing Shug was on the fishing trip yesterday.

    But hey Shug it’s A-OK to be bonkers.

    I know I promised a serious oh merde alors I mean series of posts entitled Pontificating on HTML, FE Colleges, Sexism, Super Creeps & Women who stand by their man

    and I’ve only done ‘Women who stand by their man’ aka ‘Learn to by a lesbian ladies’ but I will defo get around to the other topics.

    Wot? You can’t wait?
    I can understand that.

    I will get around to it I proomise I’m just worried I might sound too boastful and not very ‘Scottish’ I’m trying to tone it down hence the delay.

    OK I’ll do some of my experiences with the French O grade to keep you going.

    Enjoy!

  216. James Che
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    Alf Baird.

    The treaty of union articles, are a best a invention of the parliament of england towards Scotland that hails many untruths.

    First of all the Scots did not vote to join the treaty of union, it states this on UK parliament site in 2023/24.

    There is evidence that we did not share a Monarch with England at the time of the union, she was never coronated in this separate kingdom and never took the Scottish coronation Oath during her Coronation in England.

    The Scottish parliament was dissolved from the treaty of union, ….A parliament under dissolution has no members to represent its constituent,

    The Privy Council of England stages over the decision and approval on the 25th June 1800 confirms the parliament of England was still on operation in 1800.

    The lower house of the parliament of England….
    the house of Commons was dissolved at a later date than the dissolution of the whole Scottish parliament,
    The Upper House of the Parliament of England.
    The House of Lords Was never dissolved.
    It continued
    The parliament of England therefore is still legally the parliament of Great Britain (without the dissolved parliament Of Scotland.)

    The political treaty of Union of the Parliament of England and Scotland is a Hoax,

    The shared Monarchy of Scotland and England under Queen Anne is also a Hoax,

    As does the Anglo- Irish treaty that is recorded in old Irelands parliament records in 1800.

  217. sam
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    @Effijy

    “Effijy says:
    The Tories are slowly preparing everything to make you take out medical insurance and treatment in private hospitals.”

    So is Labour, Effijy. Wes Streeting has been in Oz looking at how they do it.

    Neoliberal SNP might follow.

    Both Labour and Tory favour banning conversion therapy.

  218. TURABDIN
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    SNP defecters turning BritLab into nuSNP….or whatever.
    https://archive.ph/EXWgp
    From dry frier into magma stream of squidgy genderism?

  219. James Che
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    Alf Baird,

    The Parliament of Englands “triennial Act” continued with the upper House of the Lords until 1708. And then were re- elected under the parliament of Englands parliaments “Triennial act”.

  220. Dan
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    @ auld highlander

    I’ve mentioned the practice of spreading human excrement onto our fields before. It isn’t always injected though, sometimes it is dried into “cake” and then a muck spreader disperses it onto the field’s surface where it can be ploughed in.
    It fookin stinks up the whole valley and have had the displeasure of passing through the stench whilst out on my motorbike on several occasions.
    Who knows what all those extra “nutrients” in the soil and leaching into the watercourses and rivers might lead to…

    https://wingsoverscotland.com/raising-a-glass/#comment-2786109

  221. Republicofscotland
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    “Seems that Russti military personnel in Syria are counted in the thousands.

    You’ve already used “vipers nest”. Can I use “scorpions lair”?”

    Main/Ellis.

    Erm no, the RF have been invited in to Syria to help clear out the invaders and their proxies that’s the difference.

    Iran struck Zionist Daesh bases in Syria and Iraq as payback for the attacks in Iran recently that killed over one-hundred civilians.

  222. TURABDIN
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    JAMES CHE.
    The Scots reps arrived in London to take their places in the undissolved parliament of England. The semiotics of those «Scotch» bums on English seats resonates through the ages.
    Union/annexation, annexation/union…the English knew/know the true meaning of the sign: as did no doubt most «observers».
    Treaties, contracts, accords are only worth the length of time they serve both interests equally. The ink was hardly dry on the parchment before it became obvious who got the better deal. 30 pieces of silver for your country Jock!
    An auld sang whose words are easily, conveniently forgotten.

  223. James Che
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    Alf Baird,

    The Scots did not vote to join the treaty of Union,
    Leaving the Scots Sovereign from the parliament of England and their Crown
    And Englands Queen Anne dissolved the Scottish parliament by proclamation from the treaty of union in and with England.
    There was no union of parliaments between Scotland and England.
    That leaves the treaty of union Articles hanging in mid air without a legal basis.

    Therefore there is no requirement for Scots to “vote to leave a Union” they were never in Since 1707.
    And
    A Scottish parliament that is dissolved cannot bind the “future Scottish parliament” once under dissolution,

    As the UK parliament site states regarding parliamentary repeals of Acts that are now obsolete or no longer in use,
    The Scots could repeal the whole lot of obsolete and expended articles after 300 years of their Scottish parliaments dissolution by proclamation in England, in a totally new Scottish parliament.

  224. Alf Baird
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    Merganser @ 10:34 am

    “People value your views.”

    I think the political, cultural and hence ideological capture of Scotland’s universities, and similarly other social institutions, may have something to do with the mystifying and coercive policies continually coming our way, all of which serve to deepen our subordinate status and colonial wretchedness:

    https://yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com/2024/01/17/the-colonisation-of-scotlands-universities/

  225. Ruby
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    If I hadn’t done the French O grade I wouldn’t have had a clue that defenestration meant being ‘chucked oot the windae’ or in the case of Churchill being ‘chucked oot of office.’

    Ramsay/Ramona has being doing a bit of the old defenestrationing and has been arrested for same.

    Here’s a wee cheat for folk currently doing the French O grade.

    I know I posted that the French for windae was ‘la fenestra’ and possible the ‘pair of pedants’ wrote that

    ‘You just can’t educate a pig. The French for window is ‘la fenêtre’
    If only the X would work so we can block out ‘the foul mouthed harridan, scheemie, know nothing, fringe nutter with tourettes’
    We’ll just have to put up with the ‘red boxers’ until such times as Stu learns to code.’

    I don’t know if the ‘pair of pedants’ wrote that or not it’s too dangerous for me to read their posts ‘cos there’s a risk of me ending back on the naughty step. The ‘flippers’ don’t half wind me up!

    Getting back to my hot tip for those doing the French O grade.

    La fenestra is actually correct just in the same way as writing it is instead of it’s is correct.

    The circuflex (the wee funny upside down v sign over the e) is actually replacing an S.

    Why is that important to know because if you are struggling with French words that have the upside down V sign over a letter just replace it with an S and hey presto the British English translation is revealed.

    OK you may not encounter the word defenestration in the O grade but you could come across the following:

    le pâté – OK that is English now in ‘poshvilles’ but we don’t all eat ‘le foi gras’ (fatty liver) but prefer the sandwich paste. Ditch the circuflex and replace it with a S and le pâté becomes paste and pâté de foi gras becomes ‘fatty liver sandwich paste’. It’s no wonder the poshes prefer French.

    l’île becomes isle

    get it?

    check out the following
    bâtard, ancêtre, forêt, rôtir, côte, tempête, Pentecôte etc

    oops nearly forgot my favourite degoûtant. C’est dégoûtant!

    The way the French say that is just so expressive. You could probably guess by the way the say the word that it ain’t something pleasant.

    être works only if you’ve done O grade Spanish or Latin.

    I had no problem with être because we spent a lot of time doing être but you poor darlings doing French O grade in ‘the time of trans’ might have problems with the pronouns & the genders.

    Bonne chance mes amis! I hope my little cheat will help you out just remember do not replace the circumflex with an S in your exam. One missing circumflex and your A could become a C.

    Remember too that “le ciel est bleu” et ‘l’herbe est verte’ always/toujours. No getting creative and writing ‘le ciel est vert’ or that ‘l’herbe est bleue’ that would get you a fail.

    Just had a thought about ‘l’herbe’. Is cannabis called ‘grass’ because it’s a herb?
    Did the term come from the French for grass.

    Just had another thought. Going back to my German learned from ‘Hansel und Gretel’ when the butterflies were flying in the le forêt.

    The French for butterfly is ‘Papillon’

    I read it back in back in the day and saw the film. I don’t read anything like that anymore. I just do romantic comedy and only if there is a HEA ending.

    For those who like that sort of thing I believe ‘The Butterfly’ could be worth a read.

    Have you read it?

  226. James Che
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    Were They Scots reps? That arrived in Westminster.

    The dissolution of the Scottish parliament “in England”
    removes Scotland from the treaty union with Englands parliament and as a result would also removes the agreed article terms made by the old Scottish parliament to the treaty of union by Scotland as to succession of monarchy of Scotland.

    1, Dissolved parliament has no members,
    A dissolved parliament cannot bind a future parliament.

    2. The articles of the treaty of union are not binding on Scotland as a international treaty of union between the two Countries. with the Old parliament of Englands upper House of Lords continuing its English parliament as the Great- Britain parliament.

    Whilst the Scottish parliament was dissolved in England.

  227. TURABDIN
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    JAMES CHE
    It is it seems a Scottish trait to over intellectualize situations.
    Whatever the union was on paper in practice it was the annexation of a country that had been an enemy.
    Cui bono?

  228. Anton Decadent
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    @Pac Man

    Maybe you should go to the John Smith Institute and look at who is providing the funding, you would no doubt come back and call it a canard.

    Over in the US both Chuck Schumer and Jerry Nadler said the quiet part out loud with regard to the over the border wave being new breeding stock. In the UK Barbara Roche, one of Blairs Ministers of Immigration and Asylum, said that she feels safer as a Jewish woman in a London with less white people in it.

    With regard to the trans lobby I suggest following the money in both directions, where it is coming from and who it is going to, more coincidences there.

  229. Ruby
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    I think it’s true what Gerard Butler says when he explains what ‘Guan Yersel’ means.

    He says ‘it’s a sign of encouragement, not something you often get in Scotland’

    That is true! I’m wondering if that is connected to us being colonised.

    ‘No bad’ is the best you’ll ever get.

    No getting carried away with yersel, getting too big for your boots and thinking you’re something.

    Guan Yersel’ Scotland but just not out of this Union.

    You have been warned. You ain’t nothing without us.

    Being ‘no bad’ isn’t going to get you anywhere in this world.

  230. Ruby
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    TURABDIN
    It is it seems a Scottish trait to over intellectualize situations.
    Whatever the union was on paper in practice it was the annexation of a country that had been an enemy.

    Not guilty of this ‘intellectualizing situations’ I prefer to tell it like it is in plain language.

    You do however make a good point.

    Using defenestration instead of chucked out the window is a fine example of what you say.

  231. Andy Ellis
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    @Turabdin 12.46pm

    It is it seems a Scottish trait to over intellectualize situations.
    Whatever the union was on paper in practice it was the annexation of a country that had been an enemy.
    Cui bono?

    You are perhaps being over generous in your description of the analysis under discussion. You are undoubtedly wrong is characterising it as a simple take over. Irrespective of the difference relative in size and power of the two parties, this wasn’t a case of simply dissolving the Scottish state into England.

    Of course, the Scots could have tried for a different kind of union, more like that of Norway with Denmark or later Sweden, or more like the relationship between Hungary and Austria, whether before or after the Ausgleich of 1867, but we are where we are.

    If your superficial analysis of the situation were correct, it’s most unlikely that there would be any independence movement at all. The very fact the union was voluntary and preserved unique parts of Scottish identity such as its legal and education system and its main religion helps explain why there’s a Scottish independence movement, but not for example a Yorkshire or Mercian one.

    It wasn’t only the aristocracy that were happy to become North Britons, as the Hanoverianism of many lowlanders showed in the Jacobite times, and the unionism and Empire loyalism showed in more recent history.

    The breakdown of the British nationalist consensus in Scotland isn’t really that old if you take a longue durée view of history.

    Perhaps we have easily or conveniently forgotten the words to the auld sang.

    Maybe we need new words, or even a new sang?

  232. James Che
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    Alf Baird.

    Scotland is deliberately led to believe under Colonial management that Scotland in a very questionable treaty of union with England it Must follow the rules of England.

    Most of those actual union connections fail under the lightest of scrutiny of recorded historical documentation.

    And here we must recognise that Colonialism of Scotland does not need to remain a theory, often abused and under the radar of other Countries, but has the ability to be backed up and gelled with the evidence that the old parliament of England continued lightly disguised as the parliament Great- Britain.
    Whilst the old Scottish parliament was and still is under Dissolution since 1707, from the imposed and fallacious treaty of Union.

    Your analyses of Scotlands Colonisation along with evident and abundant material of records do support and confirm that a parliamentary union never proceeded in 1707.

    With devastating results regarding wether the Crown justice system imposed in and upon Scotland over the Scots is valid with Scots never voted to join The treaty of union,

    It also would leave a huge question over national debt of the equivilent to the private corporation bank of England connected to the parliament of Englands treasury if the treaty of Union parliament only has the members of the English parliament in it since its theorhetical conception in 1707.

    Proving your Colonisation of Scotland must have links to factual records and historical documents.

  233. James Che
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    Andy Ellis.

    Your analyses of the situtation regards the treaty of union is also superficial, with little reference to documentation.

    First of all the Uk parliament site and up to date I may add, confirm that the Scots never voted to join the treaty of union because it was decided by the political classes after discussion not to include the Scots in a vote to join the union as they would probably vote No,

    So the actual Scots remained Sovereign as a nation and are outside the treaty of union.

  234. James Che
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    On X 14hrs ago,

    Damon Imani speaking to Claus Swabb at WEF.

    A Must Watch.

  235. James Che
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    Wow they had no answer to him, Claus Swab and his panel walked out and left.

  236. sam
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    @ Ruby

    “‘You just can’t educate a pig.”

    No need to try.

    Pigs have been found to share many mental, emotional, and social similarities to animals that humans consider intelligent, such as dogs and chimpanzees.

    Duck is my friend.

    Been down Raglan Road yet? One of your many self set tasks.

  237. Ruby
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    sam
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    17 January, 2024 at 2:19 pm

    @ Ruby

    “‘You just can’t educate a pig.”

    No need to try.

    Pigs have been found to share many mental, emotional, and social similarities to animals that humans consider intelligent, such as dogs and chimpanzees.

    Duck is my friend.

    Been down Raglan Road yet? One of your many self set tasks.

    It’s a long list Sam. I’ll definitely be going down the Raglan Road soon.

    Re ‘Being thick as a pig’

    You should re-direct your comment to Andy Ellis.

    Are you in his ‘red boxers’ or not?

    Have a nice day. Be good! 🙂

  238. James Che
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    My spouse and I debated wether it was real or not,
    But thought what the hell, its out there now regardless on X and pretty much everyone resonds the same,
    They think it should be real. And great to replay for inspiration on how the people around the world want a “great reset” of unelected globalist agenda ideology.

  239. John Main
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    @JohnLMAO says:17 January, 2024 at 10:38 am

    Rumours of shootings of women (in Iran?)

    I don’t like to encourage you, JohnLMAO, I’m sure it fecks up the effect of your meds for up to 24 hours.

    But here’s a wee link: [WARNING – CONTAINS DETAILS OF GENITAL RE-ASSIGNMENT PROCEDURES BUT NOT THE KIND THAT SCOTGOV SUPPORTS – OR SO I SINCERELY HOPE]

    https://iranwire.com/en/women/114163-they-shot-me-sister-the-women-victims-of-iran-protest-crackdown/

    Diverse links to these stories are all over the net. You would have to be spectacularly biased or irredeemably thick not to be able to find them.

    Logically, no reason why you can’t be both.

    Main is a laugh

    Yeah, sure, you must be ROFLMAO.

  240. sam
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    @Ruby

    Don’t know whose boxers I’m in. Wearing my high heel sneakers and my wig hair on ma heid.

  241. sam
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    WHO/Unicef have released a report with graphic attached. It is headed 494 Million People Still Defecate Outdoors.
    The graphic shows that in the UK, 51 to 68 % defecate outdoors. Highest rating.That’s English water companies for you, dragging Scotland into the….merde.

    Progressive Pulse has it.

  242. Johnlm
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    Main is a laugh.

    IranWire was founded by Maziar Bahari in 2013 and is owned by Off-Centre Productions, a UK-based company.

  243. Alf Baird
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    Andy Ellis @ 1:24 pm

    “The very fact the union was voluntary and preserved unique parts of Scottish identity such as its legal and education system and its main religion helps explain why there’s a Scottish independence movement, but not for example a Yorkshire or Mercian one.”

    The overwhelming majority of Scots were opposed to the Union, which only came about through treachery and bribery. The ‘protections’ for church, burghers and the legal establishment were an attempt to pacify the main elite groups in society who sought to quell the masses – i.e. bribery of native tribal leaders in postcolonial theory.

    Two subsequent wars in 1715 and 1745-6 and then mass evictions/ethnic cleansing of native folk followed by mass assisted our-migration of Scots disprove entirely your ‘voluntary’ argument.

    Postcolonial theory tells us that formation of an independence movement ‘depends on the solidarity of the oppressed ethnic group’, which is Scots and Gaelic speakers in our case.

    Neither Yorkshire nor Mercia were subject to wars of national independence or ethnic cleansing/genocide, so you are way off the mark there.

    Your analysis seems restricted by a limited cultural and historical awareness of the lived realities of many Scots.

  244. Ruby
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    sam
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    17 January, 2024 at 3:31 pm

    @Ruby

    Don’t know whose boxers I’m in. Wearing my high heel sneakers and my wig hair on ma heid.

    Wow Sam you know you gonna knock ’em dead

    I’m wearing my red dress, baby
    And some man sized boxin’ gloves
    In case some fool might wanna fight

    https://archive.is/1LsZq

    It’ll be filmed in and around Aberfeldy.

    What do you think. Will it be good or will it be sheet.

    What kinda lingo do they speak in Aberfeldy?
    Do they do the f.bomb a lot or is Aberfeldy quite posh.

    I’ve never been there.

    Scotland is a great place for filming even if the film is not set in Scotland.
    Might not be ideal for films about sun, sand sea & sex but it’s perfect for a film about a Scotsman running a distillery in Aberfeldy, Scotland. Infact’s its perfect! 🙂

    I wonder if they will use the BBC studio in the Kelvin Hall.

    https://archive.is/GPLs6

    Angus Robertson & Susan Aitken were involved in this venture so anything could happen.

    What are relations like between Brian Cox and the our Trans masters?

  245. Ruby
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    Any book, film, theatre, comedy that is OK with our transmasters I reckon will be sheet.

    Highly possible that ‘Glenrothan’ will be sheet.

  246. Republicofscotland
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    Alf Baird @4.35pm.

    Excellent comment Alf, the union as you say was loathed by the masses who had no vote on it.

    Also that’s a good article on Uni’s over on Lawson blog.

  247. Republicofscotland
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    Scottish assets fund the UK, not the other way around. Of course many Scots knew this already. We don’t need England, but England needs us.

    “A TORY minister’s admission that North Sea oil revenues are funding billions in cost of living support for “every household” has exposed the myth of Scotland being subsidised by the rest of the UK, an MSP has said.

    Appearing before a Holyrood committee, UK Energy Secretary Graham Stuart was grilled on why profits from Scotland’s oil andgasactivity could not be used to prevent the closure of Grangemouth refinery.

    In response he said: “Of course the oil and gas industry is in Scotland, but it is part of one United Kingdom, of course it comes in tax receipts to the Government and has allowed the Government to subsidise Scottish and every other households’ energy bills over the last few years.””

  248. Republicofscotland
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    The Sturgeon/SNP fanzine (National) is hosting a live podcast, with Kate Forbes and Karen Adams, who in their right mind would listening to those two clown.

    The former says we need an S30 which includes a foreign country’s government giving us the nod to hold an indyref, the second a numbskull useless trougher who fits in well with the current SNP clique.

    Vote Alba, Join Alba.

    Down with the union.

  249. David Hannah
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    According to Rodger Livermore, Dorothy Bain and the SNP are above the law.

    Apparently Dorothy Bain blatantly mislead parliament during her statement to the Scottish Parliament.

    https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/comment/lord-advocate-snp-government-beyond-31901700

  250. Andy Ellis
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    @Alf Baird 4.35pm

    Most alert readers have enough about them to realise 2024 isn’t 1745, or 1707 or 1320. I didn’t say, nor do I beleive that the majority of Scots consented or were asked: that’s not how pre-democratic societies worked. Nobody was asking the ordinary majorities in other countries either: well maybe in France post 1789.

    If the postcolonial theory you set such great store by and endlessly regurgitate here and elsewhere held any water, then why has the prospect of independence only become “real” in recent times? It can’t honestly be attributed to the solidarity of the oppressed ethnic groups you identify: there aren’t enough Gaels left to make a difference, and plenty of the Scots speakers were and are virulent unionists while lots of non-Scots speakers (who make up the majority don’t forget) are strongly pro-independence.

    You know nothing about my awareness of the lived realities of Scots, and given you output and your fixations I wouldn’t set any store by aspersions you cast about other people’s analyses of the issues.

    When all you have is an intellectual hammer Alf, every problem will look like a nail.

  251. Viscount Ennui
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    Just a thought.

    Has anyone reported ScotGov to Audit Scotland for the waste of taxpayers money on legal fees in attempting to railroad through the gender nonsense?

    AS appear to be relatively free from ScotGov corruption at the moment. Unlike the SPSO (Ombudsman).

  252. Mac
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    BTL now feels like the same half dozen commentators churning reams whereas if you go back 18 months and look at the comments there were a lot more commentators posting a lot less but it was much richer. I barely read BTL anymore. It is a real shame IMHO.

  253. wull
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    Whatever happened to our once famous Scottish education?

    I know – it got blitzed by politicians.

    Politicians of all stripes, but most of all SNP politicians. It’s a disgrace.

    Those who propose this nonsense can see neither the falsity of their premises nor the illogicality of their arguments. They couldn’t spot a syllogism in plain sight. They probably never heard of such a thing.

    In fact, if they even saw the word they would probably think their autocorrect must have gone mad, producing it, and in the process muddling everything up. To them, in their own muddled minds, they would probably think it was a non-word, a reference to some old thing that no longer exists.

    If they tried to think about it they might even conclude that it was an anagram for ‘silly smog’, two words which just about sums up what the same muddled minds are full of.

    It must be hard to be as silly as that, and to live in a perpetual smog which clouds the mind and prevents you from ever seeing reality. Glasgow used to be famous for its smog, but when that was the case people still had clear minds. They cleaned up the atmosphere but it seems the smog switched direction and got into people’s brains instead – not only in Glasgow, but all over Scotland.

    For some old style Scottish common sense – straightforward logic – I liked the comment of Johann Lamont quoted in the article above. ‘How can you change someone’s gender identity if you cannot define what you are trying to change?’

    I was never much of a fan of Johann, but I do thank her for that one. It’s refreshing. Nail… head… hit! Wallop!

    She knocked her opponent out with one punch! Oh for the old days! When men were men, and women were just as bad…!

    Or good!

  254. Merganser
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    Mac @ 6.34. says “It’s a real shame”.

    Indeed it is. But the quality of Stu’s articles does not diminish, so it still remains by a country mile the best site to go to, and we can always scroll past the comments of those we don’t want to read.

  255. sam
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    @Andy Ellis to Alf Baird

    “You know nothing about my awareness of the lived realities of Scots,”

    Alf was talking about your knowledge of history. Your description of the Treaty of Union as “voluntary” (your word).

    Voluntary means (Cambridge Dictionary) “done, made, or given willingly, without being forced or paid to do it”

    It seems clear enough that the Act of Union was not voluntary – “bought and sold for English gold”.

    In October 1706 the Scottish Parliament met to consider and ratify the Articles of Union. Publication of the Articles triggered widespread unrest. Violent demonstrations took place outside Parliament House, and inside there were fears that the building would be invaded by protesters.

    Your post @5.44pm shifts your position away from a voluntary Union to one decided by the elites – an involuntary Union for the majority of Scots.

    I think we do know a lot about your intellectual honesty.

  256. Merganser
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    Wull @ 6.49.

    Deduction, induction, or abduction, that is the question. Except in SNP reasoning, where the choice seems not to exist,

  257. Andy Ellis
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    @sam 6.54pm

    Alf’s (or your) knowledge about my familiarity with Scottish history is as reliable as his knowledge of my awareness of the lived realities of Scots, which is to say zero.

    It’s sheer pedantry to take issue with the use of the epithet voluntary to describe the union, and disingenuously try to infer it mean I think ordinary Scots supported it. I’m aware of Scottish history and pretty well read on it, even if it wasn’t my degree specialisation.

    What democracies were there in 1707, Sam? What other countries in the world WEREN’T controlled by elites in the early 18th century?

    And you think I’m the one being intellectually dishonest?
    Yet here you are fluffing for the same anachronistic nonsense regurgitated with such verbosity by the coterie of monomaniacs in here.

    I think we know all we need to about your character too.

  258. sam
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    @Andy Ellis

    “Voluntary” is an adjective. You used the word. It is not an epithet.

    I don’t think you know what you think you know.Or what you are doing.

  259. Hatuey
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    “Occasionally he stumbled over the truth, but hastily picked himself up and hurried on as if nothing had happened…”

    I doubt if Ellis is old enough to have known Winston Churchill but that’s a perfect fit.

    Anyway, how is everybody?

  260. Mac
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    Merganser
    “…and we can always scroll past the comments of those we don’t want to read.”

    I thought so too as that is what I do. But the reality is many folk just leave. Reading BTL now is near garbage not that I read 80% of it (and rising).

    This website is always going to be a major target. Not sure what the solution is. I thought maybe implement a rationing system on the comments just to improve quality over quantity but they’d just register even more fake users to get around it.

    There used to be so much good info posted BTL but who can be arsed wading through all the boring shite to find it.

    The people replying to it are 100% as bad. I am starting to look at some ‘well kent names’ on here in a new light as a result. You just keep doing it over and over again…

  261. John Main
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    @Mac 8:15

    I’ll keep it short and sweet. Why don’t you lead by example?

    Post some cogent, facts-based, inspirational, challenging, logical, persuasive comments/ideas/suggestions about Indy.

    Personally, I’m sick of your own “boring shite” about a far away war of which you know feck all.

  262. John Main
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    @Alf Baird 4:35

    Your “mass assisted out-migration of Scots” provided millions of foot soldiers for the ethnic cleansing and genocides they perpetrated when they got to their new homes in the USA, Canada, the Caribbean, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, etc. etc.

    Our ancestors were, pro rata, the world’s greatest colonisers of the past millennium. Keep up your “Scotland as colony” trope and you will convince me.

    Convince me there is such a thing as national karma, that is.

    Maybes national karma, like personal karma, is a bitch!

  263. Andy Ellis
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    @Mac 8.15pm

    If the ignore function ultimately becomes fully functional, it might help: folk already seem to be self filtering at least to an extent, but many of the usual suspects won’t.

    I suspect you’re right about a lot of folk giving up, if you look at the hundreds of posts there used to be BTL, and that was when they were usually daily, then a few people posting ad nauseam about their same hobby horse topics are bound to stand out more now: it looks more concentrated.

    The rot really set in a few years back with the late and unlamented CameronB Brodie, who used to spam BTL with endless links and extraneous cut and paste BS. Even then some folk used to egg him on or defend him.

    If it isn’t impacting that much on site numbers and traffic, I suspect Rev Stu isn’t that bothered: he told me he hasn’t read BTL comments in six years, so there is that….

    The wide ranging conversations of the olden days were before the big tent collapsed: lots of the “SNP loyal” drifted off when Stu saw through Sturgeonism, some probably just got disillusioned with the cause generally due to lack of progress, and there were some who were genuinely pissed off with the CBB monomania types.

    I’m still holding out for a fully functional ignore button.

  264. Dan
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    @ Mac

    If you feel btl is so crap these days (kind of agree tbh) due to stagnation then why not add some discussion points yourself, or pick up and run with what other folk have said.
    Aye, I may joke around a bit now and then but I’ve tried numerous attempts at posting content that could have led to more focused discussion on the subject matter, but it just never happens other than maybe a couple of appreciated inputs from other btl commenters.
    This to me says it all about the current Indy movement, far too many folk stuck up in their own wee social bubbles or with their heads up their own arses and simply unwilling to even contemplate interacting with folk they have pre-judged without knowing pretty much anything about the individual and the knowledge and connections that individual might have.
    As mentioned above, naebody says “gaun yersel”, it’s nearly always the doom and gloom. It’s the St Andrews fault and a serious weakness in our people that means Scots can be walked over time and time again because we are either too aloof or too cowed and worried about losing face.
    And that situation is a big issue for me. Nobody knows everything so expanding ideas on various subjects with the knowledgeable input from a diverse range of sources is what we desperately need, or else we will jist continue to get the same old unwanted stuff served up to us like we currently get… Greenwashing pish, genderwoowoo crud , Deposit Return Scheme disaster, Ferries, National Care program, etc etc.

    Wider society might be more confident in Scotland returning to self-governing status if they could witness sensible and realistic policy discussions being formulated by Scots, rather than us having to endure the shitfest of globalist garbage we currently have served up to us by bought and paid for think tanks and lacklustre politicians.

    Put up some decent discussion content and ignore the trolling twats that spend all their time with repetitive distracting and antagonistic antics that put folk off or drag down and limit discussions.

  265. Alf Baird
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    Andy Ellis @ 5:44 pm

    “an intellectual hammer”

    Its a powerful force, once a people understand their colonial reality and condition, and it becomes part of everyday discourse, not least in Westminster itself after yesterdays outcome. And the people come to realise the real purpose of independence is liberation from oppression. Even some SNP MPs now seem to get the picture.

    Yours and other contributions here largely serve to reinforce our reality.

  266. Andy Ellis
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    @John Main 8.34pm

    Post some cogent, facts-based, inspirational, challenging, logical, persuasive comments/ideas/suggestions about Indy.

    It’ll never catch on I tell thee! I remember back in the day there used to be a fair bit of that. People could disagree an’ all, but it was mostly good natured until some of the bams started monopolising BTL.

    It took the pandemic and Uncle Vlad’s Special Op to flush out the fact that sharing a common goal mebbes wasn’t enough when some of those sharing it were/are ocean-going roasters.

    I’m still enjoying the delights of the ignore button and “The City and the City” experience. It’s like twitter mute: it can be quite entertaining, even if a tad disjointed.

  267. Ruby
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    Mac
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    17 January, 2024 at 6:34 pm

    BTL now feels like the same half dozen commentators churning reams whereas if you go back 18 months and look at the comments there were a lot more commentators posting a lot less but it was much richer. I barely read BTL anymore. It is a real shame IMHO.

    I know for a fact that Mac doesn’t read my comments. I wonder whose comments he does read. I am going to suggest that people for the most part are only interested in their own comments and the topic they choose to comment about.

    If you go back you will find there was only one topic people were commenting about and that was independence.
    Now people are commenting about whatever they fancy.

    The number of topics being discussed is enormous.

    A load of the comments are about how bad the BTL comments are and how stupid people are. Those are the most boring.

    My question is why are people commenting on articles?

    Or perhaps the question should be why are people not commenting on the article and instead making comments about Ru*ssia, US elections, the situation in the Palenstine, whatever is happening around the world which is being reporting on by the BBC or how many people shit in the woods.
    The last one was actually quite interesting and at least it was something new to discuss.

    There are a lot of posts which I describe as a pissing contests seeing how has the biggest willie. Basically two posters bating backwards and forwards about the same topic usually it’s about war in the past it was Covid. Both claiming to know more about what’s going on in some war or other or about Covid and the vaccine.

    It got so bad re the UK-raine war that Stu made UK-raine & Pu*tin banned words.
    But still the the pissing contests & biggest willie contests continued to this day.

    Oh god and then theirs the franchise & show us the fuckin’ money pissing contests.

    With all these many different comments being discussed who do people think are targeting this website?

    Is it the Ru*ssian, the Israelis, UK-raine, the Royal family, anti-vaxxers,the SNP, the people who shit in the woods or the trans activists?

    Not so likely to be the trans activists as that topic is hardly ever discussed BTL inspite of Stu working his socks off to make his ‘alert readers’ more alert to the subject.

    I don’t have a problem with all the different comments being discussed I do however have a problem with people complaining about the BTL comments.

    Stu seems to be OK with the comments & it’s his website.

  268. sarah
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    The Rev has done a brilliant, time-consuming, job analysing the Scot gov “consultation” their proposed legislation to prevent “conversion practices”.

    There has been a lot of btl comments on every other subject BUT the subject of the article. Have all those commenters done anything about this consultation? Have they responded to the consultation or do they intend to? Have they written to their MSP about it?

    The point of the Rev going to all this trouble is to provide people with the information so that the problems with us having an incompetent and morally defective government can be tackled. So we don’t let the politicians get away with ruining our whole society.

    I had already written some time ago to Emma Roddick on the subject of the GRR as she is one of my list MSPs, sadly, and received her completely unresponsive response i.e. “I know what I think and nothing anyone says despite factual evidence will change that.” But I will nevertheless contribute to the “consultation”.

  269. Ruby
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    Did anyone read my story about the pub that went online.

    That is what you’ve got here. A whole load of people sitting at different tables (computers) discussing many different topics.

    Which mostly works fine in the pub. But with the pub going online the noise is deafening and and everyone can hear what everyone at the other tables (computers) are saying.

    I would suggest if posters want to have a discussion with like minded people they may want to return to the pub and give up on the internet.

    Can you imagine what it would be like if these BTL comments were happening in the pub with everyone at one big round table.

  270. Republicofscotland
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    So the English PM’s Rwanda Asylum Bill passes in the HoC, the Bill passed with a forty-four majority.

    The English Conservatives branch office in Scotland MPs voted as well.

    “All seven of Scotland’s Tory MPs voted to back the Rwanda bill. These included Alister Jack, John Lamont, and Andrew Bowie.

    David Duguid, David Mundell and Lisa Cameron also backed the migration bill.Douglas Ross the leader of the Scottish Conservatives, also voted in line with the UK Government.”

  271. The Flying Iron of Doom
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    Ruby says:
    17 January, 2024 at 10:25 pm

    Can you imagine what it would be like if these BTL comments were happening in the pub with everyone at one big round table.

    bloodbath noun – an extremely violent event in which a large number of people are killed”

    🙂

  272. Republicofscotland
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    So one of the most obnoxious Britnats (Tractor-Eds) gets her just desserts. Baillie is one of the more ardent politicians against Scottish independence a process that would see our country progress in the long run whilst retaining our own wealth and assets.

    There is NO Scottish Labour the Electoral Commission described Scottish Labour as a (OIM) Optional Image Mark of London Labour, Baillie works for the millionaire knight of the realm and leader of the Labour party Sir Keir Starmer.

    In effect Baillie is being rewarded for helping to suppress the freedom and progression of Scotland, in other words she’s a treacherous b*stard.

    “JACKIE Baillie has been officially made a “Dame Commander of the British Empire” at an investiture ceremony in Edinburgh.

    The deputy leader of Scottish Labour had been awarded the DBE in the King’s birthday list in June 2023.

    Baillie, a key figure in the 2014 referendum’s Better Together campaign, was given the honour in part for having put “the good of the country first”.

    More than 6000 people signed a petition calling for the Dumbarton MSP to have the DBE award retracted.”

  273. Ruby
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    Sarah I know you are trying encourage people to take some action and that is admirable.

    Personally I can’t see the point in responding to a an ‘incompetent and morally defective government’

    My contribution to it all is to try and make people on this site more informed about trans issues especially in the way that it impacts on women & children. It’s not much but every little helps.

    Happy also to listen and contribute to all the different women’s groups fighting this issue.

    I don’t see the point in responding to any political party (and that includes Alba) who are not campaigning for the repeal of the GRA 2004.

    I think if at this stage independence supporting parties talked about an iScotland free of any gender recognition & sex changes they could convince a fair number of women to vote YES.

    Come on Alba try to be more awake and less woke.

  274. Ruby
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    Oh God almighty ROS wants to discuss immigration.

    I predict yet another pissing contest between ROS who is pro immigration and John Main who is a hard core Brexiteer, racist & anti-independence anti-immigration. Ooops Freudian slip.

  275. David Hannah
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    The Tories are pathetic. They’ve failed on immigration. They’ve successfully destroyed Britain. I despise the Tory Party.

    I hate Labour even more. Sir Kier is married to a Jewish woman. So I’ve been told. I’ve not been impressed with his NATO posturing. The guy is a grade A wanker. And Glasgow told him to get to fuck when he arrived last month.

    We have our own way of dealing with immigration here. Like Kenmure Street. Let them stay was the message.

    As much as I hate illegal immigration. And there seems to be a lot of it. We’ve not built enough homes. And the SNP has wasted so much money. It’s the Government I really well and truely despise.

    I want to leave the country now. You get days like this when you realise that it’s over for you here. I could become an immigrant myself to an Arab. A house boy. And I’d be able to buy a house in return to colonial Northern Britain.

    The country is fucked. I almost want to help with the homeless as well. It might make me feel better.

  276. Republicofscotland
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    The Great Satan (US) could find itself chased out of much of the M.E in a way the French have been chased out of the Sahel.

    “The United States is evacuating its Hemo military base in northeastern Syria after attacks by Iraqi resistance forces, the Iranian Tasnim agency reports.

    It clarifies that Hemo is considered one of the most important American bases in Syria, with at least 350 US military personnel on its staff.”

  277. Republicofscotland
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    As US POTUS Joe Biden hangs the phone up on Israel president Netanyahu saying “this call is over” UNSG Antonio Guterres reveals that he’s been phoning Netanyahu for three months to try and speak to him but his calls are never returned.

    “UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres reveals he has been trying to speak to Israel’s PM Netanyahu but in over three months his calls have never been returned.”

    It would appear that Netanyahu isn’t open to reason or persuasion to stop the genocide.

  278. David Hannah
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    The Tories are finished. Absolutely finished. They might as well get Jacob Reece Mogg in or Nigel Farage. For a fuck it. It’ll be laugh moment.

    The country is going to vote for zionist fuck wit and war mongering puppet Sir Kier. The northern Ireland peace process. I find it hard to believe he negotiated anything.

    I didn’t think it would be possible to hate the alternative, to the destroyers of the poor the conservative party.

    Labour would be slightly easier to control, from a working class perspective. Slightly easier to manipulate. But you know we’re in for years of black lives matter and loyalty to the false green agenda. And gender. And for that reason. The fucking disaster train wreck that is. The Conservative Party is the more sane choice.

    This is the worst choice the British people will have ever had to make. Without doubt.

    I will spoil my ballot and say to my friends. I fucking told you so.

  279. Robert Hughes
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    Zelly Goes To Davos .

    RELAX ! Or will he play ” Two Tribes ” ?

    Imbecile N.A.U.S.T.O Subpostmaster J.Stoltenberg actually said …. ” the way to get peace in ‘raine is by sending more bombs ”

    So , ” War is Peace ” right enough . Cool ; so far so good .

    But our hero is getting the rubber ear treatment from Unc Sam Productions – it appears they’ve lost confidence in the leading man and are focusing their energies on a new project ( some kinda biblical , sword , sandal n state-of-the-art-weaponry Cecil B Mille redux , I understand ) and is obliged to put on his little serious face , ( the one he ” keeps in a jar by the door ” ) and reprise his Oliver-with a-Twist ” role to genuflect before the New Gods of Davos – no doubt giving special feeling to the famous line from that Dickens tear-jerker ” Please Sir , can I have $5Trillion more please ? ” .

    The W.E.F & Gates Studio are looking favourably on this entreaty ; perhaps seeing it as way to increase their market share in the lucrative – if volatile – Death Industry whilst promoting their Global Brand Recognition .

    Reports from that alpine Olympus suggest plucky young Z may , indeed , not only score this new monetary investment , he may also be given the opportunity to be the first to test the hot new bio-weapon ..ie .. the intriguingly named ” Disease X ” .

    It’s developers describe this exciting new addition to the Arsenal Of Democracy as ” Unknown ” , yet , assure us it’s ” potentially 20 times more lethal than Covid ” .

    It’s not known how something unknown ” could be ” 20 times ……” . Let’s just put this trifle down to playful Rumsfeldian semantics .

    Ah ! The Power of Love , eh ?

  280. John Main
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    RoS

    Ruby has you down as pro-immigration.

    If it was anybody else making that claim, I would say you need to work harder to make your posts clearer.

    Anyways, let’s do what she says, and not comment about the situation in the Palenstine any more.

  281. John Main
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    Robert Hughes

    Some countries fight for their Indy at great cost to themselves, other countries eternally ask nicely and then don’t like to make a fuss when told “naw”.

    It’s bad form for citizens of the latter to find fault with citizens of the former. It’s not the fault of the freedom fighters that the apathetic inhabitants of the self-id-ing nicest, cuddliest, wee country in the world come across so badly in comparison.

    Alert readers can understand the phsychological shortcomings that drive some Scots Indy supporters to crave the extermination of more successful independent, sovereign nations and cultures.

    Understand, but not sympathise.

  282. Dan
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    @ sarah

    I forward specific Wings article links with friends and acquaintances that I think are most relevant to them.
    These people are not political anoraks and saturating them with every unfolding detail will more than likely put them off reading anything I send them.
    TBH most are so busy just trying to get by in life and raise their kids or keep their businesses viable that it is a very fine line not piss them off with endless political links.
    They are generally well aware of the crap playing out, but like me they have no political representation as all current elected officials for our area are just self-serving Party hacks and writing to them will accomplish nothing of worth.

    This situation has been obvious to me for years now, Party politics is broken and has failed us massively.
    We’ve waited and waited for years to see some individuals grow a spine and cross the floor or shake off their Party whip and stand as independents as more and more trigger events occurred, but the snail pace of one here, and one there over years does not carry the heavyweight punch of significance as can be witnessed by the current stagnation and crap polling figures which show the public at large just aren’t that interested in politics.

    Years ago I talked about identifying viable genuinely local individuals to stand as Pro-Independent independent candidates with manifestos that genuinely empowered the constituents, because scrutiny of voter turnouts at past elections showed there was serious potential to garner the support of those that have become disenfranchised with the current Party dominated system.
    Ebok was pretty much the only other btl commenter that felt the same way.
    The reason I suggested it years ago was because it is plainly obvious to anybody with any understanding of campaigning and practical logistics that it takes time and a lot of effort to begin to put in place and develop the necessary structures and team network required to put a serious run together.
    But alas nobody picked up and ran with the idea, instead choosing the stellar idea of staying tied to the sinking ship of corrupted Party politics as it reaches ever increasing depths of incompetence and depravity.
    Yay! Slow hand clap for pissing away years of time as Scotland becomes ever more screwed over… and what do we have now… the likes of our supposedly Indy big hitters calling for folk to spoil their ballots because there is naebody to vote for…

  283. Hatuey
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    Well, I actually think the standard of comments on here is typically high. That of Robert Hughes at 11.31 is a good example — pretty hilarious actually.

    There’s a contingent (can two people be a contingent?) that seem to just shoot every argument for independence down in flames, and if they didn’t claim to be independence supporters you would swear they were war mongering British nationalists.

    That said, it would be pretty boring if we all agreed on things. Also, as I’ve said before, there’s no real point in making pro-Indy arguments right now; nothing is doing.

    RoS’s updates and the global situation are generally excellent. The SNP is totally conflicted on stuff like Gaza and the insane support they give to indefensible US and UK involvement in the world.

    Maybe one of the hypocritical war dogs on here can tell us how it’s possible to square the circle of supporting independence for Scotland on one hand, whilst supporting attacks on independent countries and societies in places like Gaza, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, etc., etc., etc., on the other.

  284. Mark Beggan
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    It’s easy to see now how the Scots failed at colonization of South America. It wasn’t from lack of trying. Scotland became bankrupt. The Union treaty was just what Scotland needed to bail it’s self out.

    If it wasn’t for the Scottish contributions, which were many and varied, the British empire would probably have been half the size it eventually became.

  285. Dorothy Devine
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    Scotland was not colonising Darien , it was way before its time in the idea and was hampered by those in power – blockaded and starved out.

    The Panama canal sits happily in that area.

    Interestingly oil has been found in the region.

    No English King was going to allow Scots to seize an initiative that would empower them or benefit the country – and so it remains today.

  286. John Main
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    @Hatuey

    OK, I’ll take your bait.

    Who has been supporting attacks on Gaza? Provide some links, so we can all see you aren’t just farting your claim from where the sun don’t shine.

    Here’s my take on the “quality of posts” question. Every day we see posts commenting on other posts that make it crystal clear that the commenters don’t even begin to understand what the first poster was writing about. So it’s ludicrous for those same commenters to bemoan the lack of quality posts – they wouldn’t know quality if it kicked them in the balls.

    And here we begin to see the disconnect between formal politics and the regular groupies posting on here. If I were ever to get politically active, then for the preservation of my sanity, I too would have to block most of the roasters.

    Incidentally, why the omission of 404 from your list of “freedom-loving” countries? Are they the “wrong” sort of nation, culture, people, etc.? Extinction to those you disapprove of used to be your view. No change there then?

    Maybes you maintain, as you freely and openly post your endless guff, that no nation can be free if it aligns with the “wrong” sort of hegemon, like Scotland currently does? No break through of the cognitive dissonance there then? Of course, I’m assuming you’re a Sovereign Scot, living in Scotland – not one of the foreign-domiciled Professional Scots who sometimes carelessly reveal just how shallow their Scottish commitment really is.

    Or maybes the truth is even more murky, and your real agenda can be glimpsed by your telling list of “freedom-loving” countries. Cos every one on that list is a shithole that no sane Scot would ever consider moving to unless it was the last country on earth.

    Going to respond by saying that was all the fault of the same external Greater and Lesser Satans that have “ruined” Scotland too?

    Jog on.

  287. Johnlm
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    Politically inactive? Anti-independence? illogical? opinionated? borderline personality disorder?

    You never see Emma Roddick and John Main in the same room.
    Just a thought.

  288. TURABDIN
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    ANOTHER US backed proxy war, Iran-Pakistan developing.
    Foreign lives are dirt cheap in the patently racist anglo-imperialist divide-and-decimate project.
    2024, the year of everything falling apart for Uncle Sam and friends, roll on november.

  289. Sven
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    Interesting to see that a number of Christian churches & groups are banding together in a loose but united alliance to combat this conversion Bill. Perhaps something the disparate independence Parties (and, indeed the politically disenchanted indy supporters) could consider, were it not for the fact that for so many internicine disputes and political theoretical purity appear to present insurmountable obstacles to any form of united independence movement.
    I doubt that the Islamic faith will present much public opposition to the proposed Bill (be delighted to be proved wrong) as they’ll just ignore it with impunity as seems to be their practise.

  290. Andy Ellis
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    @John Main

    It’s hilarious to see the small coterie of fringe cranks who have taken up residence BTL insist that they are the true voice of the movement, when we know they represent a relatively small if voluble bunch of cranks with delusions that they represent mainstream opinion.

    I wonder what they’re going to make of Pakistan attacking Iran in response to the ballistic missile strikes? What was it someone said about watching bald men fighting over a comb?

    What kind of person honestly thinks you can’t be an independence supporter yet support the mainstream opinions held by the overwhelming majority of both the movement and the population in general? That’s a fairly advanced level of cognitive dissonance.

  291. Ruby
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    OK John Main has taken Hatuey’s bait.

    Will this end up with yet another pissing contest with John Main trying yet again to prove he has the biggest dick in the place.

    I just remembered I need to write something about ‘Supercreeps’ for you as I promised earlier.

    Just finishing my piece about FE Colleges and then I’ll do the ‘Sexism & Supercreeps’ piece

    Enjoy!

  292. Ruby
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    Dan
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    Yay! Slow hand clap for pissing away years of time as Scotland becomes ever more screwed over… and what do we have now… the likes of our supposedly Indy big hitters calling for folk to spoil their ballots because there is naebody to vote for…

    Another great post Dan. Thank you for that.

    Never mind let’s see what’s happening on the BBC.

    There might be another war we could talk about.

  293. TURABDIN
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    ANDY ELLIS @09:35
    Making the imaginary big leap to an iScotland, the country would be emerging into turbulent international environment for which I suspect its leaders would be ill prepared.
    The default, follow the rest option, would prevail.
    In the Iran-Pakistan matter all the imperialist lines-drawn-in-sand are being rubbed out.
    A free Boluchistan? why not? That’s most of the Pakistan state gone + a corner of Iran.
    The US deems Boluchi separatism «terrorism».
    The end of the UK….only extremists, indeed terrorists would want to destroy that perfect arrangement.

  294. Ruby
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    It’s hilarious to see the small coterie of fringe cranks who have taken up residence BTL insist that they are the true voice of the movement, when we know they represent a relatively small if voluble bunch of cranks with delusions that they represent mainstream opinion.

    This man is fuckin’ hilarious!

    The really funny thing is he’s being serious.

    Were he not being serious I would suggest to Robert Hughes & Confused that they may have competition for the funniest posters here at the ‘BTL University of Wings.’

  295. Charles Findlay
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    Reference the disastrous Darien business, I’ve recently been reading Macaulay’s essays on the subject, and the entire scheme was doomed from the start. The Scots hadn’t reckoned on the Spanish reaction to them starting a colony on what the Spaniards regarded as their turf, apart from all the other problems they were to encounter.

    I can recommend Macaulay’s essays on history to anyone. It was interesting to read what he had to say on the massacre at Glencoe, and on the recoinage, which happened after coin clipping had brought the economy to ruin. It reminded me of the effects of the so called ‘Quantitative Easing’, or printing more and more money, which has a very similar effect, It devalues the currency. In the 1690’s they’d hang draw and quarter coin clippers to try to discourage the practice, as these people were very dangerous to everyone. Macaulay is still relevant, and well worth reading. History never repeats itself exactly, of course, but it does give clues to where certain types of behaviour might lead.

  296. Ruby
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    ‘ Johnlm
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    18 January, 2024 at 9:15 am

    Politically inactive? Anti-independence? illogical? opinionated? borderline personality disorder?

    You never see Emma Roddick and John Main in the same room.
    Just a thought.

    🙂

    You’ve got me thinking now Johnlm.

    How’s the Airfryer doing?

    I’m going to try to respond to posts because I think the reason folk don’t post here much has absolutely nothing to do with use ‘fringe cranks’ posting drivel it’s because people feel they are being ignored.

    Have a nice day Johnlm. Keep these post coming.

  297. James Che
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    Alf Baird,
    Andy Ellis.

    The Colonial theory applied to Scotland .
    How to To prove the theory.

    The first step is to download or copy the UK Westminster parliament site 2023 /2024 Statement on their site on this issue of Voluntary union or a Colony union since 1707.

    The (Scots)…..were not offered a (vote) (distinguished as people separate) from the parliament of Scotland, due to that very deliberation that took place.

    “after a deliberated discussion of those planning and proceeding with the treaty of union. It was decided that it was best NOT to allow the Scots a vote on joining the Union as they would probably vote NO.

    It would appear that Westminster parliament or the parliament of Scotland or the Commissioners on both sides would allow Scots to put their X vote for or against the Union out of fear the it would not go in their favour of a union.

    1: That fact of history willingly provided by The Westminster parliament 2024 site ADVERTISES that the Scots are NOT signed up to the Treaty of Union.

    2: That fact of history willingly provided by the Westminster Parliament site also ADVERTISES that the ” Scots” are indeed in a Involuntary Colonised but Sovereign Nation of Scots to this day.

  298. Ruby
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    Charles Findlay
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    18 January, 2024 at 10:09 am

    I can recommend Macaulay’s essays on history to anyone

    Cheers for that Charles it does sound very interesting.

    How are you today Charles.

    Have you got snow where you live?

    Keep warm, don’t worry, be happy

  299. sam
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    @Dorothy Devine

    “No English King was going to allow Scots to seize an initiative that would empower them or benefit the country – and so it remains today.”

    There is support for that view.

    https://corescholar.libraries.wright.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2613&context=etd_all

    “Back in England, King William III used his power to effectively stop the trade. It
    was no longer about the colony itself; rather the threat posed to the commercial status quo in the Caribbean. The governor, William Beeston of Jamaica, declared, “whereas I have received Commands from his Majestie … Signifiying to me, That His Majestie is unacquainted with the Intentions and Designs of the Scots Settling at Darien; and that it is contrary to the Peace entered into with His Majesties Allyes: and therefore has commanded me, that no alliance be given them.”141 The King now escalated tensions.He did not merely ignore the Scots; he actively worked against them to ensure that no governor in the region would trade or aid them.”

    As to Macauley’s essays. “They have been acclaimed for their readability, but criticized for their inflexible attachment to the attitudes of the Whig school of history.”

  300. John Main
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    @Andy Ellis 9:35

    It’s a psychological condition that seems to be more embedded in we Scots than in any other nation I know of.

    An inability to understand or accept that other people have independent agency. And thus, it’s incomprehensible to them that any of the actors on the world stage might be freely choosing to do what they want to do.

    It’s always going to be somebody else’s fault. Somebody making them do it. Take Gaza, for example. Anybody looking at that shitshow spots that both sides have taken religious vows to exterminate the other. Yet that’s supposed to be the fault of external influences?

    And now the rifts in the Muslim world, arising from the Sunni-Shia schism, which predates the ascendency of the west by centuries. But that’s our fault too? Laughable.

    You see it yourself when you point out that our Indy sits right there for the taking. All we have to do, as a nation and country, is organise ourselves, forget our sectarian differences, and do the work.

    But we deny that we have the agency, and thus it’s somebody else holding us back.

  301. James Che
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    Alf Baird,

    If You would be kind enough to continue posting “Scots in Scotland as a Colonised nation” and Why,
    Then I will help you prove you’re point with historical records and documentation links to the best of my ability in a amalgamated effort.

    It would not go amiss for other Scots to add their knowledge to this pool of information.

    The next Question that I would follow and helpful is to name those who did sign up to the treaty of union as individuals,
    Can anyone else remember and publish a list here on Wings over Scotland, of the Scottish individual signatures on the treaty of Union? that voted and therefore are actually in the treaty of union by that vote.

  302. James Che
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    Westminster parliament on their site has (defined) the “Scots vote as separate” from those who voted for the treaty of union,
    That is important information from Westminster parliament tfor Scots remember.

  303. Ian Smith
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    Interesting article in the Daily Sceptic on UK Power interconnectors.

    https://dailysceptic.org/2024/01/18/the-governments-latest-net-zero-swindle-electricity-interconnectors-with-europe/

    In 2023 there was similar amounts of power bought and sold over the interconnectors, yet it was bought when winds were low and the lights were about to go out, for 10s if not 100s the price from when it was sold due to an overabundance of wind.

    Scotlands current no nuke, no hydrocarbon energy policy could be catastrophic.

  304. Mac
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    This is excellent, very insightful.

    Chris Hedges chatting with Miko Peled.

    youtube.com/watch?v=CU0Uc-PKe9Y

  305. Ruby
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    Are all these ‘profs’ here at the ‘BTL University of Wings’

    ‘Professors’ of International Studies?

    Obviously not UPPERCASE TURABDIN he’s only 17 years old. He’s maybe just a student of International Studies way out there at Heriot Watt.
    Great being a student you get lots of free time to post on the internet.
    That’s the life!

    Maybe another reason why posters are turning away from Wings is because they are not interested in signing up for an online course in ‘International Studies’

    There used to be a course in ‘Civil Engineering with International Studies’
    here at the ‘BTL University of Wings’ but ‘Professor Captain’ left suddenly. We never got to know what happened to the sinking school. I hate a story without an ending. The last time that happened to me was when the dog ate the last chapter of my book. Never got to know if they lived happily ever after or not. Bloody dog he likes all the attention!

    I will be writing about the Captain in my ‘Sexists & Supercreeps’ piece. Can you believe that the Captain believed in all seriousness that women shouldn’t be civil engineers they should be at home cooking their man’s tea.

    Aye ladies you need to stand by your man. When your man decides to become his true self after 20 years of marriage you need to learn to be a lesbian.

    You need to learn at whole load of new things ladies. Hopefully the ‘BTL University of Wings’ will provide some courses in what ladies need to learn in 2024.

  306. James Che
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    Did you know?

    That the ” supposed” Treaty of union between Scotland and England that was “supposed” to create the (one parliament of Great- Britain) lasted from 1707 until 1800.

  307. Ruby
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    I know I said I would respond to posts but I have to keep it positive so a few posters have to be left out. Soz n that!

    I can’t go saying that is a load of made up pish and I truly believe you have a a psychological condition.

    No! No! No! I can’t do that.

    Anyway I hope everyone has a nice day.

    Don’t worry be happy. 🙂

  308. James Che
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    John Main,

    I agree with your comment to a certain extent,

    ” but we deny that we have the agency, and thus it’s somebody else holding us back,”

    It was impossible for anyone in days gone by to have access to the politics going on behind closed doors because there was no outlet to obtain that information for the likes of you and I or any other person wether the be Scots, Irish, English or Welsh,

    There is no excuse nowadays to blame somebody else or for us to remain ignorant with so many records and documents now available on line and the internet.

    If we blame someone else today it is our own fault.

  309. Shug
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    Talking up scotland has a good report about the popularity or should I say unpopularity!

    One would think the seeing these results the crow might chop a few heads.

    Clearly taking the english view of the crown is failing and failing badly.

    Looks odds in it might be charles the last and a significant part if that is caused by talking up an english monarchy and view of history.

    I wonder why they don’t change and respond to the decline.

  310. Ruby
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    I know Mac doesn’t read my posts so it’s a waste of time telling him to include the www in his YouTube links.

    It’s bloody annoying having to copy his incomplete link then add the www and then post it into the browser.

    So fuck it! I won’t bother listening to ‘Chris Hedges chatting with Miko Peled’ however they happen to be.

    Maybe nobody else has mention this to Mac because nobody read his posts.

    What the hell if nobody reads your posts it’s all good therapy a bit like writing in a diary.

  311. Mac
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    Regarding BTL I should say there are still many high quality commentators and being prolific on here is not necessarily a bad thing but the incessant drone of some less than authentic (IMHO) commentators makes it less and less enjoyable wading through it all to find the good stuff. I think this is obviously very much the intention.

    I just scroll by but I can now really understand why many have simply drifted away of late (or so it seems). It is becoming a bit of a chore wading through it all. It is just incessant and it seems to be getting worse and worse. I really can’t see a cure for it. Again very much part of the plan I am sure.

    I was commenting not that long ago how high high quality BTL was. So it is a relatively recent decline. Maybe it is just a temporary dip, time will tell.

  312. Alf Baird
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    James Che @ 10:51 am

    “If You would be kind enough to continue posting “Scots in Scotland as a Colonised nation” and Why”

    Yes James, there is an abundance of evidence, as in Mr. George Lawson MP for Motherwell who, in a 1955 HoC debate on the Royal Commission on Scottish Affairs Report said this:

    “Consequently, people want to know, if we can practically wipe out unemployment in England and cut it down to 1 per cent., why we cannot do the same thing in Scotland. It is a feature which is very important to us. If evidence is needed of it, any important organisation dealing with the point always seizes on the fact that it is regularly twice and sometimes three times the English level. It is the question of relative conditions, standards and opportunities which is so important, and it has been missed by the Report.

    The matter of opportunities for work is expressed in unemployment, but it is also expressed in another feature of Scottish life which I do not think is mentioned in the Report and of which, certainly, no serious account has been taken. This is the constant drain of Scottish people out of the country. It is a major question in Scotland.

    The number of people who were born in Scotland but had become domiciled in England, United States, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa was about 1¼ million. Ninety years ago the ratio of Scottish population to English population was one to five, whereas it is now one to nine, and during that period Scotland lost in proportion to its population eight times as many people as England did. Why is that so?

    The answer is not to be found in any romantic desire of the Scottish people to wander over the face of the earth. There is nothing romantic about England to Scotsmen but there is clear evidence that Scotsmen find that they have not the same opportunities in their own country as they have elsewhere.”

    Which rather reinforces my findings in ‘Doun-Hauden’, and indeed my article yesterday, on why Scots will continue to lack opportunities in oor ain laund whilst we remain subject to colonial procedures, and that only with independence will we be able to ensure our people have opportunities aplenty and are no longer discriminated against:

    https://yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com/2024/01/17/the-colonisation-of-scotlands-universities/

  313. Andy Ellis
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    @Turabdin 10.06am

    Long live free Baluchistan I say! Surely all supporters of nationalist movements trying to promote self determination for peoples who want it can get behind that….then there’s Kurdistan and Iranian Azerbaijan.

    Odd that so many who blame the Great and Little Satans for all of the worlds ills are less concerned with Iranian, Russian, Chinese, Turkish and now even Pakistani imperialism.

    Wouldn’t the world be a better place if there were more small independent states who signed up to universal values? We can dream I suppose….

  314. Dan
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    Exterior – Baltico!
    Interior – Baltico!

    Speaking to a working neighbour who can only afford to heat the one bedroom and some of the other rooms are now so cold that it would actually be warmer sitting in a fridge…
    Clear sunny skies and the fancy new taxpayer funded “planet saving” solar PV array that was installed last summer is generating heehaw watts to help power any heating as it’s in full shade and has been covered in frost and a sprinkling of snow for over a couple of week now.

  315. Ruby
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    Who are these folk who are making life difficult for Mac?

    Maybe these poor innocents have no clue what hardship they are causing Mac.

    It would probably be best if Mac named them and then they could answer for their actions.

    Wee souls probably haven’t a clue what harm they are doing.

    Get them telt Mac either that or report them to Stu!

  316. Xaracen
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    Charles Findlay said;

    “It reminded me of the effects of the so called ‘Quantitative Easing’, or printing more and more money, which has a very similar effect, It devalues the currency.”

    QE does no such thing, Charles, as long as it is properly managed, and that just means not putting more into the economy than it can practically use.

    QE pushes the flow of currency into and through the economy, with taxation pulling it back and removing it from the economy. Taxation creates the initial demand for it, by the government insisting that all taxes be paid with its own created currency on pain of imprisonment, and QE makes it available in the first place.

    QE and taxation between them create an economotive potential that drives currency through a wide variety of economic circuits, doing valuable work in the process. The value of the currency is not inherent to it, it comes from the uses it is put to as it works its way through the economy. If it’s not moving, it’s not working, and if there’s not enough more has to be created.

    Currencies are tokens of obligation, also known as debt.

  317. Dan
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    I nipped over in good neighbour stylée and brushed the snow off 3 complete ground mount solar PV arrays so they at least start to generate some power for the 3 properties.
    18 muckle dual panels so 36 conventional sized ones.
    May try to leverage a cuppa off one of the tenants and see if I can get a look at the PV generation figures.

  318. Confused
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    and now for something completely different …

    this is boring as fuck and excessively long, but it’s quite important, really.

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/659fb57ae8f5ec000f1f8b78/6.8610_DESNZ_Civil_Nuclear_Roadmap_report_print-version.pdf

    dry, but worth a read : pro-tip people, don’t bother with lurid websites which will tell you the queen mum was a space alien and hitler and churchill attended the same masonic lodge – try reading the gubmint’s own publications, and job ads, and things that get published, for discussion among themselves in the high level journals and trade press …

    I have only had a wee skim of this, and being lazy, invite the wings autist community to look over every word –

    right – the UK is going “balls deep” into nuke power, wanting to add 24GW by 2050; this means building a big new power station every 5 years or so. For comparison, 40GW of windpower is what the ukgov intend to steal from Scotland through 2 big connectors, one down each side of the country. (YOUR BILLS WILL STILL BE HIGH, YOU DIM CUNT) – but fuck windpower anyway, this is the real gemme … (we still have oil and gas, being pumped like fucking crazy, but we will pretend we are not going to do that.)

    NB – the overall context of this report is the duplicitous “net zero” and “energy security”, which go together like cheese and peas.

    1GW is a normal power station; 3GW is a really big one, they have 2 on the go, being built. I heard they had the chinese building them, which seems dumb given how much anti China/BRICs sabre rattling there is. There is going to be a lot of investment to create the infrastructure for this; I imagine there will be overlap with the weapons program, thus helping to hide its true cost – the new dreadnought class boat is coming.

    – there is also the small matter of a new type of nuke fuel HALEU, which right now, you can only get from … that country we don’t like, which is running out of ammunition all the time and is close to defeat in historical scythia. So, someone needs to look into that.

    No new nuke stations are being planned for Scotland, it seems(!); such plans, if they existed, would leak and might lead to another 10pts for indy.

    There are 3 types of nuke power station; the big ones they currently have, the very cute cuddly sounding small modular reactors, and a new design that doesn’t exist yet. I don’t have much confidence in the UK being able to build anything “real” anymore – why doesn’t the city just issue “nuke power station futures”, the govt can buy 10 of these and the invisible hand of the free market will sort it out; that’s how its supposed to work for anything else. No shit, really, they believe that.

    Supposedly the UK has developed a new welding process for making these pressure vessels, which is nice.

    Trannies can be nuclear. Did you know when a radioactive atom decays, that is like it “transitioning”, which proves how natural dick cutting is. Maybe the radioactive shit can identify itself as non-radioactive and the gubmint can issue a legal certificate to prove it isn’t.

    I am looking for landmines, hidden in plain sight. CFD – know what that is? It’s a contract for difference, a quite basic, form of derivatives contract; there is some finagling going on here – the govt is trying to get private companies invested by effectively guaranteeing them a profit (high leccy prices for you, ya dicks!) when the stations come online. We don’t know the exact details, but it will be effectively be a market mechanism for rigging; suppose the wind is blowing, the sun is shining, the eco leccy is gushing and is dirt cheap … well, the people who built these power stations need paid, right? So, there will be some effective minimum guaranteed profit for the owners – which is not the free market, its the fucked market. All this effort is not to give you cheap leccy bills, forget that notion.

    We learn inside that the nuke waste is stored above ground at Sellafield. There is a plan to create a new nuclear dump, deep underground – but

    NO DECISION HAD BEEN MADE AS TO WHERE ITS GOING TO BE

    I know where its going to be, and I am not clairvoyant; it’s to go under trinity college cambridge. Or maybe “somewhere else”(!) Anyway, think of all the carbon you have saved by loading up on toxic nuke shit. Yay. Also, the big dump, the GDF, is not going to happen till 2050 (political landmine booted into touch) and such a thing will consult the local community. So that’s allright then.

    Notably, 2050 is a full quarter of a century away, while “fusion power” has supposedly made breakthroughs of late … still 30 years away. Nah, no one thinks its really ever going to happen, so why does it still get funded? Do they think they can make something else out of it? A weapon, an interstellar space rocket – it’s not giving you leccy, that’s for sure.

    Does anyone still want to be “siamese-twinned” to this crowd, the worst people on earth, the worst people in history? They intend to rob us, again (oil and wind), and dump their toxic nuke shite on us, again.

    When you add in what they are advertising for on the nuke weapons side, realise how much it all costs, and what the lead times for it all is, it tells you a lot; they have no fear whatsoever of not being able to further their plans, and since indy is all that could stop them, then they have no fear of that, not within the next 20 years. They are making their plans, for your country, for the next 20 years – how does that make you feel? They know the game’s a bogey, that it’s all a stitchup. SNP, Labour, Tories? – even if ALBA start a run, who has to say they can’t send their people to join them too and run their spoiling operations; Salmond won’t be around forever. BTW – you will know Alba has been “nobbled” as soon as the mainstream media start treating them like just another party.

    The bigger picture is actually a lot worse than this, but I am almost in novella territory already, maybe later.

    Even to an anglo, this should be worrying; the UK does not have a good record at strategic decision making, long term planning and their appalling waste of the oil is a classic example of “what not to do” – ideologically, being a tory, means “the markets will decide”, that is all, i.e. no one ever has to think, plan ahead, because that is “socialism – which can never, ever, work …”

    Having to put in a huge, expensive plan for the next 30 years, building up supporting industrial infrastructure – are they up to it? If I lived down the road from Hinkley Point, it might put me in a cold sweat. Remember this is the people who can’t build a fast railway – it’s not “the workshop of the world” anymore. These are the genuises who managed covid so well, but they are going to put all this cutting edge nuclear engineering together, with no problems. When you look at their job ads its all about diversity. Nuclear power stations, built by gender balanced design teams and purple haired trannies, are you worried yet? The country can’t even fix the potholes on its roads, but this, we will do without issue. To be very clear – ukgov, not being very good at “real stuff” is going to pish away infinity money (not theirs, yours) on nuke weapons and also nuke power – and you are not going to even get cheap leccy out of it, all because the fucking yanks say – “don’t buy cheap gas off the nasty man”.

    Long review of an even longer document, not as much fun as troll-punching, but it is worth it to go through these, really boring, govt docs – a lot is hidden in plain sight, especially the notes, plus you also get attuned to their style, their sophistry, the bullshit phrases and words which don’t mean what you think they mean.

  319. Ruby
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    says:

    Dan
    Not Ignored
    says:
    18 January, 2024 at 11:47 am

    Exterior – Baltico!
    Interior – Baltico!

    Same but like you
    Heart – Warm
    Body – Very, Very hot!

    One upside of not taking the drugs recommended by Davina & consumed in bucket loads by the ladies with dicks is that you get these fantastic hot flushes. Fair saves on the electricity & instead of being irrelevant I have my uses as a hot water bottle.

    Hot, Hot, Hot during the day and at night I am off the charts hot!
    I am one hot chick.

    I still get the odd headache thought.

    *Time for the Greens to ban HRT and cut down on the tinnitus airpumps.

    PS Nearly forgot about the men with vaginas they too get the hot flushes only they get them in their twenties and not their 50’s.
    Testosterone brings on the hot flushes early.

    * That’s the best of got in the way of a suggestion but hey at least I’m trying.
    I’m not very engineery I prefer knitting & reading romantic comedy.

    PPS Remember there is many a true word spoken in jest.

  320. Charles Findlay
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    Ruby, according to my wife, it got down to -7 degrees here in rural Somerset last night, but no snow as yet. I had to take the car for it’s MOT this morning, and the locks doors were frozen shut, which caused dismay and delay. Were’s Michael Caine when you need him? The wood burning stove is going full blast, ironically turning the ash logs into, well, ash.

    Dorothy, I have, like you, read that Macaulay has, like everyone who writes a history, or has ever shared an opinion, had his detractors over the years, however I preferred to read him for myself, and draw my own conclusions. I often read people I disagree with, but read them anyway. I think Macaulay’s opinions worth knowing about. So many bridges have fallen into the water since he wrote those essays, and as he himself was forever editing his own work, I think it safe to conclude that he himself didn’t regard them as perfect. I find it easier to just read the essays. It doesn’t take up too much of my time, and I find it helpful to read people I disagree with, in order to get a more complete grasp of affairs. I think the Scottish Darien project may have been a bit more than the settlers could reasonably deal with, 17th century medicine being all that was available, and definitely not up to the job.

    Macaulay’s essay, titled ‘Darien,’ spends quite a lot of words on William III’s reaction to the scheme. William, and Parliament, was, understandably, reluctant to be drawn into a war with Spain over the venture, which looked inevitable, as Scotland had no Navy capable of defending the new colony against Spain’s Navy, which, though depleted, was still a very powerful. William had quite a lot on his plate at the time, and while Panama is now up and running, at least for the moment, it’s only because the US went to the enormous trouble and expense of building the canal in the first place. It was an enormous project, which couldn’t even get properly started until the US Army got rid of the mosquitos. Their Army Corps of Engineers were given the project, and they adopted a military approach to the problems they encountered. The grave yard there for the workers who’d tried to build the canal before the US got involved is huge.

    Incidentally, the canal was having a problem last time I looked, due to it relying on fresh water drawn from the lakes in the jungles surrounding it, Climate change has meant that there is less rain in the area to keep the lakes full.

    I only got into Macaulay because his work seems to have stood the test of time, and is still widely read, so I thought I’d better give him a go.

    I did the same with Gibbon, and his Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, and found both these writers well worth the effort, being informative, and very readable. I found the same with Juvenal, and all the others whose stuff is still around and on the shelves of the bookshops. These people don’t stay in print because they weren’t interesting, or couldn’t write well, and make a point.

    I just wish I could write like Gibbon, put it that way. Someone once described his remarkable style as one of ‘demure irony’, and his description of the Roman’s reaction to the people who were living in Scotland at the time, is absolutely laugh out loud funny. The Monty Python team must have read Gibbon before they wrote the hermit sketch in The Life of Brian. Gibbon wrote of a small area “swarming with hermits”, which is where the idea must have come from, I think.

    Sorry, I seem to have gone off piste. A bit.

    Good luck Scotland. but I can’t see it happening any time soon, not with the present inept bunch running things. They even make the Fabians look conservative.

    Thank you Stu, for the journalism.

  321. John Main
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    I see one of the SNP “big brains” has got her knickers in a twist over being described as hysterical.

    Apologies in advance for my use of “her”, I am unashamedly assuming “her” pronouns with no evidence.

    The thought occurs to me though – a trans woman would probably get his knickers in a twist if somebody pointedly refused to use the adjective “hysterical” at him.

    As in “Soz love, but I refuse to allow you to claim I’m making you hysterical, cos you’re not a real woman. Noo, aff ye gang an wipe that muck aff yer physog”.

    That would be a hate crime. If the hulking 16-stone Neanderthal self-id’s as having a womb, it’s illegal to cite reality at him.

    Looking at the whole sorry mess, I would say that Thewliss is a waste of education and a disgrace to Scotland. But as an SNP WM MP, she fits right in with the rest of the sorry crew.

    The dustbin of history awaits.

  322. Xaracen
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    John Main said;

    “It’s a psychological condition that seems to be more embedded in we Scots than in any other nation I know of.

    An inability to understand or accept that other people have independent agency.”

    John, you are blethering again!

    We know perfectly well that other people have agency; we suffer from it every day. Our outrage comes from a very specific situation in the Union’s shared parliament, where the agency of our Scottish representatives within the Union we founded with England is deliberately suppressed by the unwarranted excess agency of England’s representatives, on the basis of a ludicrously inept and bogus notion that England’s MPs are entitled to ‘democratically outvote’ our MPs on any matter in the Commons.

    But they are NOT! That notion is false; the two bodies of MPs formally represent two completely different sovereign kingdoms, each foreign to the other, and they cannot legitimately be regarded as a single uniform group, and it is democratically both obtuse and abusive to pretend that a simple flat majority vote on that basis has any credibility as a democratic exercise in determining what ‘joint’ decision they may have come to.

    England’s MPs can only ever provide an English Yes or No in any vote, just as Scotland’s MPs can only ever provide a Scottish Yes or No.

    Neither body can ever provide a Union Yes on any matter. By insisting that England’s MPs have ‘outvoted’ Scotland’s on any occasion, they deny Scotland of any meaningful agency in the Union, and certainly nothing that matches England’s untrammelled agency.

    That’s Point 1, and is a clear demonstration that somebody else IS holding us back, and its name is England.

    Point 2 is that there are plenty other ‘somebody elses’ holding us back, and like the Union’s media, and the Union’s security services, and no doubt a variety of other agencies with agents and agency doing their level best to undermine our agency, such as the alleged 77th brigade, also known as fifth columnists.

    We are trying to swim upstream against a strong current of treacle.

  323. Mac
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    Oh, the reason I don’t post the full link for youtube is that I had a lot of comments disappear into the ether and it seemed to be when I posted youtube links.

    Here is a tip though, left click the link 3 times then simply right click and select ‘Go To’. And I don’t read your posts (so much) now Ruby as most of it seems to be a dialogue with other people. Which is fine but why would I read it.

    Ciao the now.

  324. James
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    Confused;

    Excellent read, ta. (And I do believe you may have inadvertently punched one or two of our resident trolls as well,so job done).

  325. David Hannah
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    Humza Yousless isn’t comfortable with the Scottish National Party name.

    Asked about his party’s title, he said: “I’ve never really been comfortable with the fact that we have national in our party’s name.”

    I’m not comfortable with the white hating first minster of Gaza. Loyal to the false green agenda and not the workers of Grangemouth and Scotland wide.

    He’s no nationalist leader. He’s a wanna be globalist that hates our country. He despises Scotland and our way life. And hates gays too pussy to vote for equal marriage. He’s not even faithful in his own marriage and has apparently still not registered his divorce from his ex… It must be a Muslim thing alien to Scotland to have more than one wife.

    Shame on Humza net negative opinion rating. We’re offended by your existence as well.

  326. Ruby
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    What happened to my post to Mrs Che?

    It was important.

    Have a nice day Mrs Che!

    Could rhyme depending on how you pronounce Mrs Che. I’m going with it being Che as in day.

    What I said was that it was important to take a break from the ancient documents and get acquainted with what women need to learn in 2024 if they want ‘to stand by their man’

    I also said something about redacted, burner phones, deleted whats app messages, FOIs denied, media manipulation and lies, lies, lies and more lies that we folk have to put up with nowadays.

    It’s a pain when when the internet eats your posts. Would say it’s as bad as when your bum eats your thong but although I am a hot chick I don’t do thongs.

  327. David Hannah
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    I’m not comfortable with the Yousless family name, and your crack headed Sharia Law loving herion dealer called El Nakla.

    Running his drug operation from Dundee. I’m not comfortable with chick’s with dicks in female only spaces.

    Get yourself to fuck Humza. If you don’t like this country. You knwl where to go. With your fake brother in law in Gaza that you’ve given 750,000 to ergodan to get him out. And into Britain. To live as an illegal immigrant in Bute House. With your lying wife El Nakla who lies about who she’s related to.

    How’s that for the leader of your fucking national party. I’m not comfortable with you Humza. Pack your bags and go you bell and.

  328. Alan Austin
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    Back to the article and away from all the nonsense above.
    Recentb article in Telegraph by a woman gives the absolute definition of gender and sex.

    A persons gender lies between their ears whilst their sex lies between their legs.

    Simple definition which explains why without surgery a trans women is not of the female sex.

  329. Dan
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    says:

    @ Confused and Ian Smith

    Re. Energy

    I was checking out a site again which has data on windfarms around GB and noticed the new inclusion on the right of the page which is the large Dogger Bank A,B,and C development.
    As far as I can tell the 2 concentric circles on each farm are a way of showing the potential maximum proposed potential output and the inner yellow circle is the current generation figure.

    https://renewables-map.robinhawkes.com/#5/55/-3.2

    Dogger Bank’s location is very close to the proposed North Sea Wind Power hub.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sea_Wind_Power_Hub

    https://www.energyvoice.com/renewables-energy-transition/250079/brexit-got-in-the-way-of-uk-sector-collaborating-on-north-sea-wind-power-hub/

    Does none involvement in this project highlight that the UK is choosing to go it alone and rather than play a part in a wider European wind energy network, just plan to keep control of and utilise Scotland’s extensive proposed offshore wind resources to power much of England’s leccy demand.

  330. Ruby
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    Mac
    Ignored
    says:
    18 January, 2024 at 12:42 pm

    Oh, the reason I don’t post the full link for youtube is that I had a lot of comments disappear into the ether and it seemed to be when I posted youtube links.

    Porca miseria!

    Christo en un bicletta!

    Look at that I can even make up swear words in Italian.

    Ciao the now yersel Mac.

    PS You should read my post ‘cos they are PDB.

    You can learn a lot from my posts.

  331. Dan
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    Alan Austin wants to get away from above nonsense then finishes his post with:

    Simple definition which explains why without surgery a trans women is not of the female sex.

  332. Ruby
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    The number of really brilliant post is just overwhelming.

    Sadly I have to do some very, very boring work.

    Hasta la vista! Keep up the good work y’all.

  333. Ruby
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    James
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    says:
    18 January, 2024 at 12:51 pm

    Confused;

    Excellent read, ta. (And I do believe you may have inadvertently punched one or two of our resident trolls as well,so job done).

    Before I go I have to say hello to James.

    Hi James I hope you slept well and are feeling energetic and ready for some ‘troll kick boxing’.

    Cheerio the noo!

  334. Shug
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    Does anyone have sight of the date of the Balmoral incident

  335. Anton Decadent
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    From last year, transwomen were demanding womb transplants, some to bear children, others to abort them.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20240118133412/https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/08/29/no-transwomen-should-not-have-abortions/

  336. Hatuey
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    Well, it looks like I hit a nerve when I pointed to the contradictions and hypocrisy of war mongers who claim to want Scottish independence on one hand whilst denying democratic rights, freedom, and life itself to so many people in other countries.

    John Main, a hate-filled narcissist who thinks his “patter” will win him friends here as it might in an orange lodge, contends that his reservations about slaughtering the people of Gaza somehow makes his rancid views plausible. The opposite is true.

    Professed support for Scottish independence must, if it is to have any sort of meaning and sincerity attached to it, rest on principle; otherwise it is as morally and intellectually sterile as cheering for your favourite colour.

    But those principles that meaningful support for independence rests on are all obliterated when you support interventions and wars that deny those very same principles to others — the bombs, in that sense, destroy you and any claim of being principled too.

    I don’t need to defend my argument or my principles; they all sit comfortably together, for the most part. Moreover, my arguments and principles didn’t result in a trail of death and destruction through Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Gaza, or anywhere else — with countless millions of people, who valued their lives as much as you or I do, left dead.

    Ellis thinks he has found safe ground in public opinion when he alludes to general levels of support for the murderous wars. I’m afraid not.

    It is more obvious and clear today that public opinion is being carefully managed and manipulated by politicians and the media, that control has reached Stalinist levels, way beyond anything we have experienced in countries like the US and UK before, making an embarrassing mockery of our so-called democracies.

    The idea that an independent Scotland should slot in behind other western countries, taking orders from American arms manufacturers and dancing to whatever despicable tune they choose to play, is an idea that I (and, I assume, many other Scots) will always oppose.

  337. James
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    Hatuey;

    Old school common sense – classy.

    [They’re quiet today so far? Team briefing maybe?]

    [Also, Ciao, Ruby].

  338. Brian Doonthetoon
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    Hi Mac.

    If you’re pasting a Youtube link into a comment, you delete EVERYTHING to the left of “www”.
    Wordpress adds the “https://” automatically.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeP8jdBzpgU

    After the “watch?v=oeP8jdBzpgU”, you may have something like “&t=86s”. This means you have paused the video 86 seconds in. Everything after and including the “&” should be deleted as well, so the video starts at the beginning when someone clicks on the link.

  339. Sven
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    Shug @ 13.29

    For what it’s worth, the first mention of the Balmoral incident I recall on WOS was around 28th March 2022; following I believe Mr Salmond’s announcement re the Alba Party of the 27/28th, when I seem to recall a member of the MSM posed a question about the alleged incident.
    Which would place it a few weeks earlier, I guess.

  340. TURABDIN
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    ANDY ELLIS @11:46
    As a member of a MidEast people who would die, literally, to have their own homeland restored i agree the more self governing communities the better.
    Every country has sensitive issues with minorities. Even the liberal Nordics have been found wanting regarding the Sami people.
    The grand exemplar is the USA, which is today built on the bones of the original inhabitants. That history plays into the hands of the Chinese handling of Tibet, Uyghurs, Mongols and Iranian fears of secessionist Kurds, Arabs and Boluchis; brute force works
    That is simplistic, i know, but as with the Yemeni «problem» the detail may overload the brain. Ouch!
    Just the bare facts, are they or are they not on our side? All that is required to know.
    Whose side might the Scots be on?

  341. Merganser
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    Seems like Humza is proving that he is a Turkey voting for Christmas with his invitation to Erdogun.

    Where does that come on the average person’s list of priorities?

    Keep on digging Humza, the more you shovel the better Scotland will be when you can’t get yourself and the SNP out of the crater you are digging.

    It’s just a pity we will have to wait so long, and suffer more untold neglect and vanity projects until they are all kicked out.

  342. The Flying Iron of Doom
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    Shug says:
    18 January, 2024 at 1:29 pm

    Does anyone have sight of the date of the Balmoral incident

    Ah, the intrigue of Irongate! We can but hope the facts of the matter will become known with the fullnesss of time. Who knows, we may even gain an answer to that most maddening of questions: did she strike while the iron was hot? 😀

  343. Ruby
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    There have been a fair number of Balmoral incidents.

    Epstein & Maxwell invited to Balmoral
    Murrell rescue’s corgi
    Queen died too early at Balmoral
    Queen’s tax bill reduced to lower than local shop & pub.
    Charles gets op for enlarged prostate while staying at Balmoral
    Charles flies in helicopter to Balmoral while having Covid.
    (One rule for the royals and another for Margaret Ferrier)
    French kissing at the Balmoral

    Which on are y’all talkin’ about?

    There was another Balmoral incident during the referendum debate I just can’t remember what that was about. Might have involved ‘Better Together. Tried to Google without success.

    I did do one of my brilliant stories about ‘French Kissing’ at the Balmoral. Guan yersel Ruby!

    I’ll maybe try to see if I can find it. Mac may have missed it first time around. 🙂

    Don’t get too excited ‘Mac’ it may have been shredded by ‘CleanMyMac’

    That ‘CleanMyMac’ doesn’t half enjoy clearing out my clutter.

    Got the feeling oor Mac would like to do the same!

  344. Ruby
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    My story did involve

    ‘The Flying Iron of Doom’

    guess a certain poster on here got inspired and used that as his moniker.

    Aye ‘The Flying Iron of Doom’

    All the BTLers in the pub at one big round table could as you say be a ‘blood bath’.

  345. Johnlm
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    @Shug 1.29pm

    A Herald article of June 2022 cited the first mention of the Balmoral incident as being in a tweet of March 27 2021 the day of the ALBA launch.

    Andrew Learmonth: Disinformation is flourishing in Scotland | The Herald

    Other details appeared on TWtext.com (undated?) naming Colonna.
    This post mentions police action against @bridgesforindy and that the incident happened ‘last Summer’ if that helps narrow down the date.

    Thread by @ProudEuropean4, 1/6@thetimes@Telegraphnews@spectator@nytimes@welt@lemondefr@smh#sturgeongateSo, I hear that @bridgesforindy has been arrested and his computers confiscated. […]

    If Colonna was a honeytrap perhaps that is tied to Alastair ‘liar’ Carmichael’s and James Cook’s attempt to derail the 2015 SNP election campaign with references to the French Ambassador.

    Much as I wish it to be true it is probably just MI5 stirring IMHO.

  346. Anton Decadent
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    The Balmoral Incident was yet another cover up involving a UFO…

  347. Red
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    Humza disnae like being called the Scottish National Party because he has nothing but contempt for the Scots and our nation.

    The Scottish Parliament is anti-Scottish. Strange, but true.

  348. Republicofscotland
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    Hatuey 2.02pm.

    Its well known that Pakistan is client state of the Great Satan’s (US) its previous PM Imran Khan now in prison on trumped up charges, amny of his party faithful and followers murdered in the process.

    Khan wouldn’t tow the (US) line of many policies, including backing and supplying the neo-Nazi Eastern European state, and many of Pakistan’s military generals are utterly corrupt so the overthrowing of Khan was done fairly easily.

    Pakistan does of course host many of the Wests proxy fighters that move between countries in the M.E carrying out the Great Satan’s (US) belligerent orders.

    Iran has struck some of those fighter camps, and Pakistan ultimately with the consent of the (US) has replied in turn with its own strikes.

    Read this to learn a bit more about the Coup against Khan in Pakistan. Though I’d imagine that you Hatuey are well aware of this.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2023/08/09/craig-murray-the-silence-on-imran-khan/

  349. Dan
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    @ Anton Decadent.

    Balmoral UFO could be one for Mulder and Scully.

    The (Se)X Files – The truth is out there.

    They could maybe chip in with Operation Branchform whilst here…

  350. Ruby
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    I can’t find my true fiction story atm but I do remember it involved Murrell’s magpies who were sent to steal all the bling from the Balmoral penthouses.

    He needed around £60OK at that time.

    While he was waiting for his magpies to return with the loot he was knocked unconscious by ‘The Flying Iron of Doom’ he ended up in A&E and the Magpies were taken into care by the RSPB.

    He was totally unaware of the ‘french kissing’/’la crime passionnel’ going on above in ‘Chambre 69’. He wouldn’t have minded about the french kissing ‘cos he was quite happy with his lavender arrangement.

    Aye OK I didn’t use the term ‘The Flying Iron of Doom’ first time around but I will in future.

    It certainly was ‘The Flying Iron of Doom’ for Murrell because that is when the police became suspicious of his activities.

    Apparently whatever drug they gave him in A&E had him spilling all the family secrets.

  351. John Main
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    @Hatuey 2:02

    Your sermon lacks credibility, due to you being an enthusiast for the shelling of kids in the aftermath of February 2022.

    I recall taking you to task about it at the time. I recall you being sympathetic to the idea they had it coming.

    But by all means cling to your beliefs that you have a monopoly on “nice”, and even that Scotland is going to “nice” its way to Indy. But at least have the humility to admit we had better ensure that all the New Scots we are going to get are “nice”, otherwise your plan won’t work. Haha, like it’s working now.

    I’m happy to call out Hamas for the nihilist murderers, rapists and torturers they are. I’m content with the knowledge that without compunction, they would slaughter you just as quickly as they would slaughter me.

    Haha, just my little joke. I’m no longer prepared to give their cheerleaders the benefit of the doubt when it comes to wondering who these posters are, whose side they are on, what their true motivations are, and why they are carpet bagging on Scotland’s Independence movement.

  352. Republicofscotland
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    Radio news reporting that the Scottish government has banned the Devil Dugs (XL bully) in Scotland, owners must now chip insure and neuter their Devil Dugs, the breeding of them is illegal as well.

    Watch out near you as Devil Dugs (XL Bully Dugs) are dumped en masse, only the drug dealers will be able to afford to comply with the new regulations.

  353. Republicofscotland
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    So our beloved FM Yousaf says he feels uncomfortable with the word national in the name of his party, we heard that shite before with Sturgeon who also felt uneasy with it, both of them have managed to all but destroy the once independence minded party.

    Yousaf said that Operation Branchform had changed how the public perceive the SNP and not in a good way.

    On anther note the man that feel out of the window that had links to Humza Yousaf’s brother-in-law has since died.

  354. John Main
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    Merganser 3:23

    Yousaf is the ultimate Indy carpet bagger.

    It has long mystified me why oor wee pretendy FM gets such a free ride on here. The tribal idea that cos he’s got the badge pinned on him he MUST be supported unreservedly never made much sense to me.

    A stitch up through a flawed and fraudulent process allowed the SNP to outsource the leadership of both Scotland and the Indy movement! What true Sovereign Scot would ever have accepted this disgraceful farrago? What true Indy supporter could ever have remained silent in the face of such provocation? Just how parochial and small minded do you have to be to not see how this stain on Scotland’s honour looks to the rest of the world?

    I now conclude the answer may be that the small time Indy carpet baggers on here are just showing their respect to the master carpet bagger himself, Humza Yousaf.

  355. Ian Smith
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    New name, same old grifters and weirdos.

  356. Robert Hughes
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    @ Hatuey 2.02

    Thanks for articulating exactly what I think of that pair .

    Main has been ridiculously trying to equate Scottish Independence with the U.S connived obscenity in ” The East ” – ditto with the slaughter in * aza – from day one : zealously telling us how ” we ” were at war with Rusha , also from day one , whilst propagandising and repeating every dehumanising caricature and stereotype of Western MSM & Politician regarding that country and it’s current leader . On Radio Main all that’s played is a non-stop medley of Cold War era cover versions .

    Self-styled spokesman for the ” vast majority ” Ellis , is too daft to even get irritated by . Who can forget this wannabe Scourge of * Conspiracy Theorists * participating in the ludicrous , blatantly obvious lie/nonsense of R blowing-up it’s own pipeline ? Hahahahaha . Two degree and not a single clue .

    If I wanted to read truth-warping shite I’d read/watch MSM . I don’t , so why would I read it here ?

  357. Dan
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    @ RoS

    Re. XL Bullies being abandoned.

    http://vietnamfoodtour.com/vietnamfood_g11-d18_delicious-dog-meat.html

    Though I tink I’ll stick to eating grey squirrels as they are a more suitable meat portion size for someone concerned about maintaining sensible weight. And especially so after this afternoon’s antics when I was walking on water scoping out a lochan for some ice fishing.

  358. John Main
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    @RoS 4:25

    Lord knows, it’s defo possible you believe some of the guff you post.

    But answer a question for the alert readers. If you are now revealing Pakistan to be a powerless pawn of the Great Satan, what does that say about Scotland’s leader and the leader of the Scottish Indy movement?

    Take enough time to untangle all the twists and knots of your pretzel logic before replying.

    It may well be we will have to call out HY as a quizzing stooge of the Great Satan itself.

    What would that make him then? An imp, a demon, a mini Satan, what?

  359. Johnlm
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    What’s it with Main and carpeting?
    Carpet bagging, carpet munching, shagging, carpet bombing(?)
    Is it envy?
    Do they only have Lino in Brigadoon?

  360. Merganser
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    John Main @ 4.58.

    Actually, I haven’t noticed that much praise or support for him in comments BTL here. Unlike ginger buscuit land.

    I think and hope his time could be running out, but no one of any calibre in the SNP (either of them) will stick their head on the block he leaves to try and clear out the mess. It’s too far gone to be saved, and Scotland will continue to be dragged down until they are all shovelled out.

    The nightmare caused by Sturgeon continues.

  361. John Main
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    Bob

    That country’s current leader has been president since 2012 (he had an earlier 8-year stretch too) so 5 terms so far.

    He is the front running candidate for the 2024 election campaign. The popular rival candidate was last heard of from a Siberian prison. Other potential popular candidates now live overseas, checking under their cars, and wiping door knobs before touching them.

    There will be another candidate on the ballot though. His survival depends on him not posing any real challenge.

    I fully accept that you think this is just great. I don’t agree. I think it will be a great day for the world and the Russtis when that sinister, murdering, megalomaniac bustard gets his. I promise to spare a wee thought for you on that happy day, greetin into yer dram, while the free world celebrates.

  362. Dan
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    Popped in to a neighbour’s to check today’s generation figure for one of the “planet saving” solar PV arrays fitted last year to nearby properties.
    It’s been clear skies and sunny all day but as all the panels are shaded by buildings and trees the array didn’t even manage to make one single KWh of leccy. lol
    Top skillz on spaffing thousands of pounds of taxpayer’s money away right there.

  363. John Main
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    BBC Online running a story about two NK teenagers sentenced to 12 years hard Labour for watching South Korean TV programs.

    It’s a lucky break for these two lads, presumably cos of their youth. The penalty for an adult committing the same offence is death.

    Now I know it’s the BBC, and thus all lies, but still, makes you think.

    NK are bosom buddies with the Russtis and the lassie mutilators. Obviously the Great Satan is far worse, but then when it kills people just for watching TV, we don’t get to hear about it.

    And thus it looks like NK, Russtiland and Iran are really not the kind of places rational Scots would want to get involved with. Shitholes of the first water in fact.

    Makes you think again.

  364. Mac
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    Cheers Brian.

  365. Ruby
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    Johnlm
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    says:
    18 January, 2024 at 5:15 pm

    What’s it with Main and carpeting?
    Carpet bagging, carpet munching, shagging, carpet bombing(?)
    Is it envy?
    Do they only have Lino in Brigadoon?

    🙂

    It took me a mo to get the connection between shagging & floor covering.

    FYI The shagpile causes less carpet burns than the lino or laminate.

    Considerate of the carpet manufacturers to make a special carpet for the shaggin’

    More fantasy than envy.

  366. Johnlm
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    Fun fact.
    The U S killed 10% – 20% of the North Korean population between 1950-1953 and appear to have used bio weapons also.

  367. David Hannah
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    EL NAKLA! There’s been a MURDER!!! Unrest at the Mosque. The IMmam is going mental.

    Humza’s family of rogues. Crack heads. Adulterers. Drug dealers and murderer suspects.

    What a family eh?

  368. David Hannah
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    El Nakla! There’s been a murder! Bringing shame upon the Muslim community of Dundee. The people of bonny Dundee deserve better than heroin punters of the Yousless family tree.

    Get Dorothy Stain on on the phone….

    There’s been a murrrrrdeerrrr involving a disgraced first minister’s relative……..

  369. David Hannah
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    Check out the news…. There’s been foul play. Drugs. Heroin. And adultery going on in Dundee.

    Humzicide they’re calling it…

    Get Taggart on the phone. There’s been a MURDER! Do do do. Do.

  370. Ruby
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    Stoker
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    says:
    18 January, 2024 at 5:57 pm

    “Sirius Aviation Unveils World’s First Hydrogen-powered VTOL Business Plane”

    Hi Stocker

    How are you?

    That plane could be improved a great deal with some yellow & blue paint, orange ears & some apricot coloured sunglasses.

    http://tinyurl.com/yn4rfa9p

    In case you’ve been worried. Charles is fine after he had his Balmoral visit interrupted to have surgery on his enlarged prostate.

  371. David Hannah
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    SNP. Getting away with murder for years!..

    Let’s hope justice is served for the victim and the criminals are chuckled into the police station. And not offered a coffee…

    Dorothy Bain has questions to answer!!!!

  372. Republicofscotland
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    Main/Ellis @5.10pm.

    Yes our very own Scottish government is utterly compromised as is the SNP, from Sturgeon at the Brooking Institute, and being a member of the Trilateral Commission (you can’t join you need to be invited to join), her heroine is the warhawk Hillary Clinton, to Yousaf visiting Washington on several occasions, he’s also an alumnus of the US State Department’s prestigious International Visitor Learning Programme which grooms future foreign politicians to be sympathetic towards US foreign policies.

    Then we have Angus Robertson who is totally compromised by Mossad, the Mossad agent Shia Masot said of Robertson that he was someone “We” could definitely work with. Other SNP and Scottish politicians were part of the US State Department’s prestigious International Visitor Learning Programme, others such as Anas Sarwar and Kate Forbes are utterly compromised via joining (BAP) British American Programme which also invites foreign politicians to put US interests at the forefront.

    The Britnat parties at Holyrood Labour/Lib/Dems and the Tories are merely branch offices of their London HQs, so we all know where their REAL loyalties lie.

  373. Republicofscotland
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    “The W.E.F & Gates Studio are looking favourably on this entreaty ; perhaps seeing it as way to increase their market share in the lucrative – if volatile – Death Industry whilst promoting their Global Brand Recognition ”

    I see Mr Nasty in his combats was hawking his wares around Davos this week, reports say he was desperate to have a sitdown with the Chinese delegate, who did his best to avoid him.

    On the WEF worth a read.

    “The world’s top companies are using their monopoly power in their markets to hike prices and keep them high amid inflation and a cost of living crisis. In the five years to 2022, for the world’s top 20 companies, the average “markup” has risen to around 50 per cent.

    This is double the 25% average markup for the bottom 50% of firms studied. Of these 20 companies, 14 are partners of the World Economic Forum, which says it is committed to improving the state of the world.

    The findings are part of a new report, Taken, not earned: How monopolists drive the world’s power and wealth divide, released to coincide with the Davos gathering, by four non-governmental organisations: the Balanced Economy Project, SOMO, Global Justice Now and LobbyControl.

    The research focuses on the 20 biggest firms by market capitalisation in the world – many of which are owned or controlled by the top 20 billionaires on the Forbes Rich List. Of the world’s top 20 firms, at least 14 are WEF partners, meaning they sponsor the event and are involved in shaping the debates at the annual meeting in Davos, which in turn have wider ramifications for society.

    These WEF partners are Apple, Microsoft, Alphabet/Google, Amazon, Meta/Facebook, Eli Lilly, Visa, Novo Nordisk, Walmart, ExxonMobil, JP Morgan Chase, Johnson and Johnson, LVMH Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton and Saudi Basic Industries (SABIC). Behind these companies are many of the world’s wealthiest and most powerful monopolist billionaires, including Bernard Arnault, Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos.”

    https://www.globaljustice.org.uk/news/new-report-taken-not-earned-how-monopolists-drive-the-worlds-power-and-wealth-divide/

  374. Republicofscotland
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    So the MoD, or it should be the MOO The Ministry of Offence has been providing target information for the Zionists on Palestinians using spy planes.

    The usual BS narrative is given when asked why (we’re looking for hostages). The Great Satan (US) is in on the act as well.

    “Declassified has previously revealed the US spy force, 1st Expeditionary Reconnaissance Squadron, is permanently deployed at the British base on Cyprus alongside 129 American airmen.

    “Declassified also reported on a leaked US cable in which a UK official said American spy flights from Britain’s Cyprus base “have become routine” and the “intelligence product” is often “passed to third party governments”, which is likely to include Israel.”

    The UK Ministry of Defence and US Department of Defense both refused to comment to Declassified on what intelligence they are sharing with the Israelis.

    “The UK military has flown 50 surveillance missions over Gaza since December, it can be revealed.

    The flights have taken off from Britain’s controversial air base on Cyprus, RAF Akrotiri, and averaged around one a day since the beginning of December.

    The British plane used is the Shadow R1, which is known as an intelligence, surveillance, target acquisition and reconnaissance (ISTAR) aircraft.

    The Shadow R1 is operated by the UK military’s No.14 Squadron, which is based at RAF Waddington in Lincolnshire, east England.

    The UK military recently awarded a £110m contract to the plane’s manfacturer, US weapons company Raytheon, to update the aircraft and increase the British fleet from six to eight.”

    https://www.declassifieduk.org/britain-has-flown-50-spy-missions-over-gaza-in-support-of-israel/

  375. Hatuey
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    Thanks RoS. I depend mostly on Galloway for information on current affairs in Pakistan, and if I remember correctly he has friendly personal relations with Imran Khan.

    Pakistan’s relationship with the US-UK is longstanding and has all the usual characteristics, with arms being pumped in on one side, resulting in the usual misery, corruption, repression, and even genocidal attacks on the other (have a look into the curiously named “Bangladesh Genocide” of 1971 which The US turned a blind eye to, just as it turned a blind eye to Pakistan’s nuclear weapons program).

    The post-war neo-colonial model is unraveling everywhere and Pakistan is a good example. People around the world are waking up. That neo-colonial model is the keystone of western hegemony in the world and it’s falling apart right before our eyes.

    Do they really think throwing elected leaders in prison when people don’t vote ‘the right way’ is a solution to a lack of faith in democracy? They’re basically trying to do the same thing with Trump in the US — is that the shape of things to come?

  376. Hatuey
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    Johnlm: “and appear to have used bio weapons also.”

    I believe Jon Halliday confirmed that in a book… I read it about 30 years ago so the title escapes me.

  377. Andy Ellis
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    @Turabdin 3.06pm

    The grand exemplar is the USA, which is today built on the bones of the original inhabitants. That history plays into the hands of the Chinese handling of Tibet, Uyghurs, Mongols and Iranian fears of secessionist Kurds, Arabs and Boluchis; brute force works.

    Well, indeed: “Wer redet heute noch von der Vernichtung der Armenier?” as someone once famously observed. Of course if many of the usual suspects pontificating about the Great and Little Satans, and the many little satans, weren’t such hypocrites, they’d be encouraging the self determination of all oppressed peoples from the colonial rule of their imperial masters.

    I wonder why they aren’t? One might almost think some of them had an agenda or something to hide.

    The world would surely be a better place if for example the Iranian regime was toppled because the Kurds, Azeris, Baluchs and Arabs were able to decide their own fates. The Kurds surely deserve their own state, which would have the added advantage of being one in the eye for the surrounding regimes, including Erdogan’s.

    Similarly, who would really shed a tear if a failing state like Pakistan was balkanised? Doing that to the Russti Federation and China ought surely to be a specific long term aim for western democracies.

  378. Andy Ellis
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    @John Main 5.10pm

    Lord knows, it’s defo possible you believe some of the guff you post.

    I (thankfully) don’t even have to bother reading the red boxed contributions of SovietOfScotland to guess the odour. It’s amazing this place seems to have attracted so many unashamed tankies happy to fluff for sundry unsavoury regimes, irrespective of their background, as long as they’re anti US/WEF/NATO/EU/Space Lizard.

    We all know the types from olden days and which side they’d have been cheering when The Hungarians were put down in 1956 or the Czechs in 1968, or the Poles in the 1980’s……and it sure as hell wouldn’t have been the underdogs.

    The pretzel logic you so rightly refer to is a sight to behold. In the end they’re not fooling anyone but their little claque of cappuccino commies in here of course. I reckon some of them are actually deluded enough to think their views resonate, the rest are just Wolfie Smithing.

  379. Wullie B
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    Hi STu, not like you not to catch an error, but Roddick is list MSP for Highlands, and the position should have gone to Shetlander Tom Wills who had more votes than her, and was the highest of the list MSP candidates, but there were rumours at the time that they were targeting Kate Forbes position as constituency MSP

  380. Hatuey
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    A couple of comments was all it took to turn John Main into a babbling wreck and Ellis into Dr Strangelove…

    No third world peasants were killed in the making of this drama.

  381. Johnlm
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    Interesting* to read someone that believes that communism is still a thing and that there is such a thing as Western democracy.

    *not at all interesting

  382. Johnlm
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    @auld highlander 9.25pm

    I haven’t seen reports of agent orange being used in Korea until the late sixties (tho’ it was invented in the 1940s.)

    I was more thinking of diseases released via insect bombs and vermin based on the work of Shiro Ishii who the US took to Korea and gave immunity from prosecution.

    http://www.news.cn/english/northamerica/2021-09/18/c_1310196215.htm

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shir%C5%8D_Ishii

  383. Willie
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    Grim humour maybe but Humza Yousaf might be taking comfort in the fact that his brother in law was charged with Heroin ( brown in colour) as opposed to drugs like amphetamine ( white in colour)

    But grim humour apart, the man who exited a window and who police have arrested El Nakla about had now died.

    It’s grim. Someone has lost their life. Potentially murdeted and Humza’s Bro in law has been arrested regarding the incident.

    Innocent until proven guilty. But sadly Humza and his family have had suspicion about them. A dual named cousin who was involved in a Glasgow Islamic organisation who could not account for hundreds of thousands of public grant. The same cousin who trades under two names and who soared to the top of the list at the last election to try and insest the lung term and hugely popular sitting Ayrshire MSP

    Or the first minister himself who whilst a minister was stopped in car with a woman who was not his then wife in a car with no insurance. Convicted he was finef

    Or the issue of his child not being admitted to a Cdunde nursery. And his and his wife’s response was to try and set up a sting to entrap the nursery.Havig people pose as people they are not is just not First Minister behavior.

    Or the Education authority putting the nursery in aufit

    Or the legal case mounted against the nursery only for it to have to abandoned on the advice of lawyers resoling to act because it was an unstable case.

    Yes, innocent until proven guilty but by your actions, by your friends you shall be petceived

  384. Tartanpigsy
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    @Confused 12.14pm
    Brilliant post

    Hatuey, RoS, Ruby, hats off to you too

    I worry not enough of us see just how big the charade is.
    There are things we can do but they definitely can’t be discussed on here, nor indeed shared as every organisation is compromised by the bastards
    F*k ‘em
    The occupiers need to start feeling uncomfortable

  385. Mark Beggan
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    One flew over the cuckoo nest

    “It’s medication time!”

  386. Ian Brotherhood
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    OTS has been doing a regular digest of the latest blogs, strips out all the trolls and pests.

    This place is still by far the busiest comments section so a lot of the comments are from here, but other places are lively too. Quite a few of the regulars here do pop up elsewhere but if forced guess I’d have to name Alf Baird as the busiest bee of all, seems to be everywhere. (OTS did a one-off with comments by Mia and Breeks, got a great response: https://www.offtopicscotland.com/post/mia-and-breeks)

    Quite sad to see some old ‘friends’ still flogging a deid dug but the fact they’re still doing so is important – they represent a significant % of the electorate and can’t be ignored. Unfortunately, addressing them directly via that particular site is well-nigh impossible. PK doesn’t allow critical input and even if he did, no-one in their right mind wants to give him any traffic.

    https://www.offtopicscotland.com/post/not-hitting-the-wall-6

  387. Ruby
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    Tartanpigsy
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    18 January, 2024 at 10:52 pm

    @Confused 12.14pm
    Brilliant post

    Hatuey, RoS, Ruby, hats off to you too

    Cheers Tartanpigsy

    My hat’s off to you too! It’s a big hat it came from Mexico. Arriba, Arriba! Andale, Andale!”

    More might see the charade if they weren’t so busy talking about everything going on in the world (except you Scotland) and football.

    There are some folk obsessed with football. Really obsessed it’s all they talk about and all they read about. Fitba! Fitba! Fitba! but they have their own sites and it seems to be an innocent enough hobby/obsession except they know nothing about what’s going on in the rest of Scotland. Sure they might go off to other parts of the world where Scotland are playing but still it’s Fitba! Fitba! Fitba!

    Then you’ve got the guys who are obsessed with what’s going on in the world (except you Scotland)they particularly enjoy the wars, people getting killed,women getting raped, buildings getting blown up. Unlike the football fans they don’t travel to see ‘the game’ instead they read all the propaganda and then argue 24/7 as to who is winning the match. It’s kinda macbre but hey to each is own. I prefer my knitting and my romantic fiction. I find I sleep better at night when I don’t have my head filled with horror stories.

    There are more than enough horror stories going on in my own backyard that I can’t avoid thank you very much.

    People talk about Wings being under attack and I couldn’t figure out who they meant now I get it.
    We are under attack by the ‘International Affairs (except you Scotland) Brigade’ they are here to ensure we are kept in the dark. If they every talk about Scotland they are always pretty keen to point out how dumb/weird we are and how our posts are not worth reading ‘cos we are just fringe nutters posting drivel.

    You have a great day ‘Tartanpigsy’ and don’t believe them when they say ‘Tartan Pigs’ can’t be educated.

  388. TURABDIN
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    ANDY ELLIS @8:22
    Natural ethno-cultural boundaries are rare in the so called nation states manufactured by outsiders. The MidEast and eastward to Java has many fine examples.
    Pakistan was a failed enterprise right from the beginning. A home for the classic Urdu, Indo-Mughal culture it is not, it is kept together by the late victorian, pakka sahib militarism that characterized British India, otherwise it would fall apart into ethno-linguistic zones: imperialist North West frontier in effect, troublesome tribesmen a plenty.
    If the «pak» ie pure state fell apart the dominoes would begin falling throughout the region.
    A land-of-the free-nightmare? The Brits would be bound to offer their in depth regional knowledge, dusting down the yellowing tomes, assuming they have not been binned.
    Send in the highlanders……laddies in skirts.

  389. Ruby
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    It’s very quiet here at the ‘BTL University of Wings’

    Has Stu ever written an article about ‘world affairs’?

  390. TURABDIN
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    Some NATO porno.

    https://archive.ph/sSW3x

    OLD SOLDIERS very very wet dreams.

    Scotland, now you see it, now ya dont…..SNP policy brief.

  391. Ruby
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    Ian Brotherhood
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    19 January, 2024 at 8:06 am

    OTS has been doing a regular digest of the latest blogs, strips out all the trolls and pests.

    The problem I have with Breeks, Mia, & Alf’s posts is they are not for me.
    They are for the ‘trolls’

    These trolls could be part of the 30% hardcore Unionists who will never vote YES or alternatively they may not even have a vote in Scotland.

    I’m already YES I’m already convinced Scotland is a colony, I’m already convinced the SNP are corrupt & fake, and about everything Breeks, Mia & Alf are writing about.

    It’s all getting a bit too ‘Groundhog Day’ and sorry to say that includes posts by Breeks, Mia, & Alf.

    Above all I am already convinced that ‘thon windbag’ is a cunt. I’ve known that for quiet a long time. See ‘feminine intuition’ it’s great.

    I don’t know what we need or what we can do maybe

    A little less conversation, a little more action, please

    Who knows?

  392. Cherrybank
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    Scot goes Pop is running a pre-election opinion poll fundraiser. I am well aware that James Kelly is antagonistic to Stuart Campbell and Wings but he is right about clarifying the state of Scottish politics.How sweet it would be to illustrate the dire state of the SNP to it’s hard core supporters.

  393. Ruby
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    TURABDIN
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    19 January, 2024 at 9:24 am

    Send in the highlanders……laddies in skirts.

    It’s UPPERCASE TURABDIN the 17 year old boy from Iraq.

    Getting kinda close to stereotyping there laddie.

    Careful!

  394. Ruby
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    Ooops forgot to say to

    ‘UPPERCASE TURABDIN the 17 year old boy from Iraq’

    DON’T FEED THE TROLLS!

  395. John Main
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    Hatuey carrying his torch for third world peasants.

    Coincidentally, their Scottish leader was on Radio 4 just this morning.

    The interviewer failed to ask him about the fraudulent campaign that made him leader, the recent defenestration, his plans to put Scotland into the EU with no democratic mandate, or his plans to augment our population with a million or so New Scots, probably more third world peasants. Hatuey must be hugging himself this morning – that’s all third world stuff all right.

    Both Labour and the Tories flirting with tax cuts too. Who on here wants to pay more Tartan Tax – support pretendy FM HY as he spaffs our cash on his career building wheezes?

    As HY doesn’t get asked about any of this by the badge-worshipping faithful, I can’t decide if the interviewer is also a closet SNP supporter, or just an eejit. Maybes a third world peasant.

    Again, could be all three.

  396. Ruby
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    Cherrybank
    Could be Ignored soon
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    19 January, 2024 at 10:08 am

    Scot goes Pop is running a pre-election opinion poll fundraiser.

    I wouldn’t give him a penny.

    I can tell you the state of Scottish politics.

    It’s totally fucked-up. Scotland is a colony.
    Scottish people especially women are irrelevant.

    No charge. You’re welcome.

    PS What difference do you think it makes who Scotland send to Westminster?

    ‘Scot goes Pop’ can go Pop!

    Cause & effect laddie! If you get your rocks off slanging off others then you pay the price for your actions.

    Snap, Crackle & Pop!

  397. John Main
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    Ruby at 10:05 looking for a little more action.

    Urgent clarification needed, methinks.

  398. Ruby
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    Professor Mini Windbag has arrived at the Uni.

    I wonder where Professor Captain and Professor A. Scot have gone.

    They haven’t lecturer us for ages.

    I just wish Professor Captain hadn’t disappeared before telling us the ending to the saga.

    Anyone know?

    PS. I am still miffed that Nancy didn’t die. I am not happy with the person who told me this. I’ll have to check back to see how did and give him an X.
    😉 🙂 ):- 😕

  399. Ruby
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    Professor Mini Windbag thinks he’s funny.

    Tumbleweed rolling through the lecture hall.

    Students all making F sounds and texting two F’s and an S.

    Wee Andy the teacher’s pet sitting in the front row is laughing his pants off and giving Prof MW a one man standing ovation.

  400. John Main
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    @TURABDIN 9:57

    It’s not complicated. There’s too many people and not enough resources to go around. It’s a recurring theme of history, and we’re hard-wired to fight, not share. This time it’s global, not local, and made worse by climate change, but that’s the only bits that are new.

    Poot and Xi have been first out of the blocks with the reversion to historic form, but that’s because they don’t have to answer to anyone.

    It’ll take us a while to waken up, because in a more-or-less free democracy, most of us will choose to be distracted by the cacophony of dissenting reality-deniers and virtue signallers, rather than face harsh and awkward facts.

    Truth is, shite as Scotland may supposedly be, it’s still in the top tier of world places to live. Compared with the real shitholes occupied by hundreds of millions, it’s a paradise. Unless we really want to turn Scotland into a true third-world dystopia, we need to get a grip.

  401. Towbar Sullivan
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    So Tata steelworks in Port Talbot is closing its blast furnace works – 3000 jobs gone. Why? Because the fkn muppets in charge in London and the rest of Europe wanted to play second fiddle to Biden’s war in Ukr. They cut their own throats by cutting off cheap Russian energy and made it worse by substituting expenseive LPG from the US. And the real joke is that Russia is winning anyway – while Mupperland Europe falls apart.

    Even the Guardian is having to admit it:

    “The feared closure of the Port Talbot blast furnaces is part of a wider “deindustrialisation of Europe”, says Dr Kirill Shakhnov, senior lecturer in economics at the University of Surrey.

    Dr Shakhnov explains:

    “Steel production is an energy-intensive and environmentally impactful process. The cut in energy supplies to Europe from Russia has led to the deindustrialisation of Europe in general.

    The Russian energy supplies were redirected to India.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2024/jan/19/davos-day-four-wef-global-economic-outlook-lagarde-ecb-okonjo-iwela-wto-retail-sales-business-live?page=with:block-65aa46b28f082472faf42b29#block-65aa46b28f082472faf42b29

    Of course the Greens will LOVE it (and guess who’s in power in Germany?) “You will own nothing and be happy” (aka “You’ll be piss poor and hate it”)

  402. Ian Smith
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    It’s not just cutting off cheap energy supplies.

    It is lumbering them with additional emissions penalties.

  403. Ruby
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    All the female students call him ‘Professor Supercreep’
    every time he talks to female students there’s always a double *entendre.

    Now young lady you’re saying it’s action you want. Can you specify what type of action you want? 😉

    As your tutor I am always happy to help you out with any ‘action’ you require.

    I don’t think he actually 😉 but it’s contained in his words & expression.

    Fuckin’ nudge, nudge, 😉 😉 Maybe we should call him ‘Professor Action Man’

    *entendre You can guess what I’m going to say about ‘entendre’ can’t you.

  404. Mac
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    Towbar Sullivan, it is disgusting seeing what they are deliberately doing to Europe. What is almost as shocking is seeing barely any European leader stand-up for Europeans.

    The bombing of Nord$tream really does underline what the real intent was and is.

    People should be rioting, tearing the joint apart, because what is being done is beyond criminal, it is an attack. But they mostly do not even know who their real enemy is…

    What most do not realize is that the people running Biden (the Neocons like Victoria “Fuck the EU” Nuland) don’t like Europeans and they certainly don’t give a single fuck about sending 500,000+ Ukr@inians to their deaths. These people are mentalists.

  405. crazycat
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    @ Ruby at 10.51

    I’ll save you the bother – I told you about Nancy. You could have found out yourself with a very simple bit of googling. It’s a romantic image right enough, and occurs in plenty of other poems.

    X away – I’m not a “him”. I even agree with you about the GRA 2004, though not about clause 28/ section 2A (as it was in Scotland). Are you still making soup? I used to like your recipes. Perhaps you have a soup machine to go with your air fryer – I prefer a stick blender myself. 🙂

  406. Ruby
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    Towbar Sullivan
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    Of course the Greens will LOVE it (and guess who’s in power in Germany?) “You will own nothing and be happy” (aka “You’ll be piss poor and hate it”)

    Mornin’ Towbar
    Yeah the Greens are deviant mentalists.

    Here’s an archived link for you.

    https://archive.is/V812Y

    You risk being ‘ignored’ if you don’t archive and that my dear Towbar would be a shame.

    ‘Own nothing & be happy’ aye

    ‘Foutu mais content’ as they say in French.

  407. Ian Smith
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    Covid Inquiry confirms Sturgeon deleted every single WhatsApp message.

    Surely there must be a crime here and another arrest or this just becomes the template for the next generation of politicians.

  408. John Main
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    Anybody know how to send half a million fit, healthy, rational, educated, democratically minded, self willed, young men and women to their deaths?

    No, me neither.

    There might be one or two eejits on here who think it’s possible. I guess that might be evidence there’s one or two eejits on here who could actually be sent to their deaths.

    I’ll leave it there in case some evil mentalist is reading and thinking it might be kinda fun to try it out.

    In other news (not reported much on here), proud, brave, patriotic men and women, seeing their neighbouring country’s tanks hundreds of miles inside their own country, their sister raped, their best mate tortured, their town flattened, their place of employment in flames, their language and culture declared non-existent, their toddlers kidnapped and put up for adoption abroad, etc. etc. pick up a gun and join in the fight back.

    Could it ever happen here? Alert readers viewing the standard BTL fare micht hae their doots.

  409. Ruby
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    Professor Mini Windbag telling us there are not enough resources in the world to keep all the private jets & yachts running while giving us plebs affordable electricity & gas.

    There are just too many of you plebs.

    Hello Wuhan Lab can you arrange for another leak?

    All the students texting the two F’s and an S.

    Wee Andy in the front row furious taking notes. Writing down his every word. Professor Mini Windbag is my hero says Wee Andy.

  410. Scot Finlayson
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    Just reading about Kennedy and the Vietnam war,
    and came across this,

    Agent Orange was first used by the UK in Malaya during the Malayan Emergency.

    and

    `UK had prepared for Malaya to become an independent state, but only by handing power to a government which would be subservient to UK and allow UK businesses to keep control of Malaya’s natural resources`

    they needed the rubber produced there to help pay of debt to US.

  411. John Main
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    Innarestin article on Unherd today, about Edinburgh University’s links to the suppression of the narrative linking the Chinese Flu to the Wuhan biolab’s leak of genetically modified viruses.

    To be consistent, I have to point out that I have never regarded Edinburgh as a Scottish university. Like St Andrews, it’s an English university situated in Scotland.

    I just hope the rest of the world shares my nuanced view. If the world ever cottons on that the Chinese Flu is a man made disease, and really get angry about the millions of deaths, and the trillions of dollars costs, they’re not going to go after the PRC, for obvious reasons. We defo don’t want them taking it out on us!

    Meantime, I read in the MSM that the Covid Spreaders have been working on a new, improved variant. 100% success rate when tested on mice, kills every one. For once, I’m hoping that the posters forever claiming the stuff in the MSM is all lies are right.

  412. Ruby
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    crazycat
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    19 January, 2024 at 11:46 am

    @ Ruby at 10.51

    I’ll save you the bother – I told you about Nancy. You could have found out yourself with a very simple bit of googling. It’s a romantic image right enough, and occurs in plenty of other poems.

    X away – I’m not a “him”. I even agree with you about the GRA 2004, though not about clause 28/ section 2A (as it was in Scotland). Are you still making soup? I used to like your recipes. Perhaps you have a soup machine to go with your air fryer – I prefer a stick blender myself. 🙂

    Sorry crazycat! What is a female cat?

    I could google that too but I keep getting the spinning beachball.
    I was going to suggest you need to include your pronouns but no we are not doing that ever.

    Still making my soup. Got it down to only 3 min prep time even for Vichyssoise.

    Dan won’t like it! His Vichyssoise takes about a year. He has to grow the leeks first and in this freezin’ weather he can’t get the leeks oot the ground.

    I’ve discover frozen herbs and boy girl they do really save time.

    No soup machine. I am the soup machine.

    I have a new air fryer. It’s PDB. It’s like a mini oven. Everything seems to be an airfryer now.
    M&S French frit come out delicieuse done in my new AF. Oops it’s le frit so need to be delicieux.
    See if you had done your moniker in French there would have been no misgendering. That’s M&S frozen frites not the ‘fresh’ ones. Fresh ones £3 for a single portion (good but pricey) frozen are £3 for loads & loads of portions. Highly recommended and no bad dunkened in the soup. Tomorrows recipe will be tinned mince with M&S frozen frits. 15 mins but zero hassle. Frits do themselves in the AF.

    I always like a happy ending and in the case of Nancy it was happy/sad before you shattered my illusions.
    I didn’t want to know she was an adulteress who made her husband into a *cuckoo and the ‘one who got left behind’ was a player (as they say in my romantic comedy books)

    I really don’t know much about about Section 28 so I’m really just talking through my planet. I was just looking for something that would stop the promotion of ‘transgenderism’

    What are you up to Crazycat found a nice cosy corner to snuggle up in. Soup is just the thing in this freezin’ cold weather. Aye well the ‘Vichyssoise’ only if your leccy has been cut off.

    Stick blender broken having to stick with the potato masher. Potato mashing is a great workout. You should see my guns!

    *cuckoo that’s French well it’s close enough.

    I can sense ‘the boys’ bristling from here! Drivel! Drivel! Drivel! This forum is no what it used to be.

    But ‘the boys’ still gotta eat! Cookin’ tips could be handy especially if their enlighten wife isnae standing by her man putting on his bib and catering to his every need.

  413. Ruby
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    Mon Dieu!

    I’ve been redacted.

    The boys’ weren’t happy and did a major strike through to all my ‘drivel’ very helpful hits.

    Cabrones sin cajones!

  414. Dan
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    Have always had a great deal of respect for the considerable time and effort the likes of Craig Dalzell and Robin McAlpine put in at Common Weal.

    Reading through this linked article really highlights that even when policy ideas or initiatives that were initially generated by, or broadly aligned with what Common Weal would like to see developed and implemented, the actual rolled out result is badly compromised and far from what it was initially intended to be.

    https://commonweal.scot/investing-better/

    I question why this happens so often. Is it because those that are analysing and collating the relevant information and data into specific policies are solely working within an academic and theoretical realm with generalities, and therefore the finalised policies created lack the checks and balances of input from those with real world practical insights.

    I know the article I linked to is focused on SNIB and investment, but including sections such as the following text with no caveats to point out that there are very often other aspects that should be addressed first on a huge amount of properties, and long before heatpumps and solar arrays are considered isn’t that helpful, because by doing so it glosses over potential issues and effectively helps steamroller through ill thought out or badly prioritised objectives.

    That would be sufficient for the community to own enough electricity capacity to completely power our own needs – even assuming we all get electric cars, electric heat pumps and don’t put solar panels on our own houses too (another thing that SNIB should absolutely be helping to fund!).

    Why not just state “helping to fund the most efficiently ways to improve the thermal efficiency of our specific properties”.

    I pointed out yesterday that there are 3 taxpayer funded solar PV arrays installed in the back garden of an adjacent block of flats, and the one array I was able to check the meter for showed it didn’t manage to generate a single KWh of leccy yesterday. And that was after me clearing the frosted couple of inches of snow off them at lunchtime. So even with 4 hours of clear skies and sunshine they didn’t generate any significant energy as the installation is terrible due to considerable building and tree shading completely blocking direct sun to the arrays.
    And those 3 arrays are facing south, there are another 3 taxpayer funded arrays facing north so get no sun, so you can guess how much they generated.
    That must be the best part of £30k of taxpayers’ money pissed away on these 6 solar installations when all these properties still have single glazing and very poor insulation.
    And I’ve bored everyone already with the considerably more expensive taxpayer funded ASHP installations some of these same properties have had installed with the generated noises being over the legal 42bd limit at 49 and 59db, as the numerous pumps hum and resonate away all night trying to keep the properties warm in minus 10 deg C temps.

  415. Brian Doonthetoon
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    From:

    https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/the-crisis-for-edinburghs-rape-victims

    “Mridul Wadhwa, has been the CEO of Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre since May 2021. He has been the subject of numerous articles on this site.

    In the past we have reported that:

    He has no GRC so is still legally male.
    He concealed his sex to secure a job at Forth Valley Rape Crisis Centre.
    He objected to an amendment allowing rape victims to choose the sex of the medical clinician examining them.
    Pursuing political ambitions, he took a place on an SNP all-women shortlist.
    He is ‘disappointed’ by the single-sex provisions allowed for in the Equality Act 2010 and finds them ‘discriminatory’ against ‘transwomen’.
    He sided with serial litigant and period-obsessed paedophile, Jonathan Yaniv, against a group of migrant women.
    He deems it appropriate to discuss whether rape victims experience orgasm.
    In August 2021, appearing on The Guilty “Feminist” Podcast, Wadhwa made his contempt for women perfectly clear. (For Women Scotland compiled a transcript of the entire broadcast.) Denying that women who’ve suffered male violence need female-only spaces, he made this shocking statement:

    “Sexual violence happens to bigoted people as well… If you bring unacceptable beliefs that are discriminatory in nature, we will begin to work with you on your journey of recovery from trauma. But please also expect to be challenged on your prejudices… You have to reframe your trauma… To me, therapy is political”.

    His words were roundly condemned by women’s service providers, mental health care professionals and rape survivors. But their words fell on deaf ears; Wadhwa issued a brief statement in which he doubled down on his previous comments. “If what we see/hear from someone is clearly prejudiced and we are not responding to their urgent support need it is also part of our role to provide a space to explore and challenge this”, he said.

  416. Johnlm
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    It’s interesting to see China making ‘gain of function’ diseases, with U S Government and billionaire money, and the WEF and the WHO at Davos telling us that they are preparing for a Disease X.

    Add in a few wars, some climate scares,
    it almost looks like they are all in cahoots.
    Maybe a bigger agenda?
    New solar cycle minimum perhaps?

  417. sam
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    @Johnim

    “Maybe a bigger agenda?
    New solar cycle minimum perhaps?”

    I looked it up Johnim.

    https://judithcurry.com/2023/07/04/solar-activity-solar-cycle-25-surpasses-cycle-24/

  418. Ruby
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    The spinning beach stopped briefly and I was able to google cat’s genders

    The female cat is a Queen or a Molly. Male is a Tomcat.
    I knew about the Tomcat never knew Queen or Molly.

    ‘Crazy Queen Cat’ if you want to read what I said without the redaction/strike through you just copy & paste it into notepad, Smultron or whatever note taking software you have and all redaction disappears like magic.

    I have to own up and say the redaction came about because I stuck an extra s tag somewhere and ‘the boys’ didn’t do it. Bet they wanted to.

    It all started when I typed

    I’ve discovered frozen herbs andboy girl they do really save time.

    I’ve had a look at the html but didn’t find the stray s tag but it wouldn’t matter if I did ‘cos we don’t have an edit function.
    This ain’t Dreamweaver.

    I’m going be fired as the Wings pontificator of html. Although I think all my work is done here re HTML. Everyone got an A+ & a gold star. Well done y’all.

    Now lets see how they do with the cookin’

    PS I thought Geri & James Che were both he/him for ages.



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