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The Queer Parliament

Posted on May 20, 2026 by

We were excited to discover this old footage of a very young John Swinney.

How thrilled he must be that he’s managed to make his dream come true.

Because in the Scottish Parliament at least, there are now no men and no women, and indeed pretty much only wankers. Just days into its five-year term, gender ideology has already turned it into a trainwreck and a laughing-stock.

After the election, the Parliament website had added “non-binary” to the list of filters by which one could search the MSP cohort, and included male Green MSP Iris Duane in the female category. Shortly afterwards it decided for the first time in its 27-year history to abolish the gender filter entirely.

It’s doubtful that the Scottish Government can comply with its duty to monitor progress on female representation, or indeed its Public Sector Equality Duty generally, if it refuses to recognise the sex of MSPs, but apparently it has been determined that “inclusion” is more important.

Meanwhile, the first act of new Presiding Officer Kenny Gibson – one of just three SNP MSPs who voted against the Gender Recognition Reform Bill – was to announce that he would impose compelled speech in the chamber on anyone with the temerity to know the difference between a man and a woman.

Sanctioning anyone for “misgendering” would be unambiguously unlawful anywhere else in Scotland, but there’s uncertainty over whether the Equality Act 2010 (which protects so-called “gender-critical” beliefs) applies in the Holyrood chamber. In theory both the PO and the Parliament’s standing orders are subordinate to UK law, but we can only hope that an MSP, probably a Tory or Reform one, puts the matter to the test as soon as possible in the interests of clarity.

The Scottish Government has also refused to take any action over the trans-focused Equality Network – an organisation almost entirely funded by the government – giving businesses unlawful and inaccurate advice regarding the Supreme Court ruling in For Women Scotland.

All of this follows the chaos unleashed by the election of “non-binary” Green MSP “Q” Manivannan, who will under the law as it stands become an illegal immigrant long before the completion of his term in office.

(Although the Scottish Greens find biological women so intolerably gross and icky that they made a female candidate in exactly the same circumstances stand down before the election, despite all the other “diversity” boxes she ticked.)

And the important thing to note is that none of this is a bug. It’s a feature.

The sociopathic freakshow that made up the Scottish Greens candidate list at the election, for example, was not merely an unfortunate aspect of the fact that the party has nobody but sociopathic freaks to choose from.

The Greens are not a proper party in the normal sense. They have a tiny membership riven with incredibly bitter factional infighting, and don’t stand in most constituency seats. Instead, they exist to opportunistically exploit the electoral system as essentially a form of political terrorism. Everything they do is about “queering” the status quo, by which they mean normal people (especially white heterosexual ones, although “Queer Theory” is only passingly concerned with sexuality) with families and jobs and a fondness for an occasional pork chop.

(And God help any who also dare to own a car, the scum.)

“Q” Manivannan, whose real name is Srivatsan, takes his nom-de-plume from his social media identity “q_ueering”. Almost immediately after he was elected and a number of offensive and racist posts from his Twitter account surfaced, he locked the account so that it was only visible to his 2,471 existing followers, and then methodically removed every single one of them so that nobody could read any of his tweets. (He now has just two, and nobody but him and them knows who they are.)

Readers might be forgiven for wondering what he wants to hide so badly.

Manivannan joined the Greens primarily because of the party’s stance on Palestine, and wants Scottish taxpayers’ money to be spent not on improving anyone’s lives in Scotland but on paying “reparations” for the “historical and contemporary complicity of Scotland in the colonisation and occupation of Palestine”.

He performs poetry urging people to migrate illegally to Scotland.

He describes himself as a “marriage abolitionist” and a “communist” who runs towards red flags rather than away from them, and also supports the abolition of prisons, like his dribble-witted fellow new Green MSP Kate Nevens.

The Greens want to soak the rich with high taxes, but at the same time they don’t want anyone to BE rich in the first place. They oppose most forms of economic growth as environmentally harmful, and call for “degrowth” as both a tactic against climate change and a path to “upending the engine of capitalism”, ie destroying life as we currently understand it.

Manivannan is explicit about the link.

So if you voted Scottish Green you voted for a communist Scotland with no marriage and no prisons, an end to capitalism not just in Scotland but worldwide, and all your money being given to Palestine. Oh, and more cycle lanes.

It’s not an accident that the Greens put such obvious nutters at the top of their lists. It’s a deliberate statement of open, provocative contempt for normal people and normal society, that says “We are going to do our damnedest to destroy everything you know and love”. Manivannan is simply less subtle than most of them about it.

Consider the selection of the infamous Mridul Wadhwa as a list candidate for Edinburgh. He was EIGHTH on the list. Regions only actually get seven list seats. For him to have any chance of getting elected the Greens would have needed literally 100% of the list vote. So why is he there?

The answer is that he’s there to make a statement. The Scottish Greens WANT you to know that they support this man, who was fired for victimising a rape crisis worker, having lied to get a job running a rape crisis organisation that was supposed to be for a biological woman.

Wadhwa is absolute poison to every decent human in Scotland. And since there was no chance whatever of him getting elected there was no ostensible purpose for putting him on the list. But the Greens did it anyway purely to say “Screw you and your decent society. This is who we admire and prioritise over you, and would happily have making your laws.”

Alert readers may also have noted the presence on that list, in a literally-impossible ELEVENTH place, of Alex Staniforth, a repulsive piece of slime even by the standards of the Scottish Greens, who last year tried to defund Edinburgh Women’s Aid for not being sufficiently inclusive of men.

The Greens only stood three constituency candidates in the Edinburgh region, so even if ALL of them had won their seats and EVERY SINGLE LIST VOTE had gone to the Greens, Staniforth still wouldn’t have been elected. The only reason he’s there is to demonstrate the utter molten contempt in which the Greens hold women, and indeed most normal people generally.

Most of this is the legacy of Patrick Harvie, a tiny angry man with the face of Heinrich Himmler but lacking the warm personality. By the end of this parliament Harvie will have been an MSP for 28 years and trousered over £2,000,000 in wages – not bad for an anti-capitalist – without ever winning a seat in his own right.

He claims to be a bisexual, but in all his decades in public life nobody’s ever known him to have a male or female partner – something which also applies to almost everyone in senior positions in the party. The last time he’s known to have been inside a woman it was his mother. If anyone’s having sex with the Scottish Greens leadership, they (perhaps understandably) don’t want anyone finding out about it.

Harvie took the mild-mannered environmentalist party of Robin Harper and transformed it into a far-left home for intolerant extremists, driving out widely-respected moderates like Andy Wightman for even daring to TALK to feminists.

Harvie groomed the repellent misogynist Ross Greer as his successor, but when the party held a leadership election last year 88% of its membership declined to vote for ANYONE. Greer got in on just 298 votes.

It’s worth remembering that the Greens came dead last in last week’s election (of parties represented in the Parliament), with a total of just 375,000 votes. The Lib Dems got 478K, the Tories got 543K, Reform got 745K and Labour got 809K. But Scotland’s electoral system rewarded Greer and Mackay’s misfit crew with 15 seats, just two less than Reform who got twice the votes.

And that’s the heart of the issue – the Greens and their lunatic policies are toxically unpopular with Scots, which is why the party hates society, which is why the people it puts up for election are all so foul. It’s not a coincidence. It’s design.

That’s why when people question their motives, Greens don’t respond by saying “Look, we’re in this to make Scotland a better place, give us a chance and judge us on what we do”, they say “LOL just wait, you’re going to hate us even more!”

It’s because if you’re a normal Scot just trying to survive with your family from day to day without queering/destroying the entire order of Western society, they already loathe everything about you.

Worryingly, despite the arithmetic in the chamber putting John Swinney in an almost uniquely strong position where he only needs the support of any one other party to pass any vote, all the early signs are that the SNP are going to cling to the Greens and their agenda anyway, giving a party with just 8% of the vote a massively disproportionate influence to go with their disproportionate seat numbers.

So get ready for five years of the queerest Scottish Parliament ever, folks. We can only hope there’s some fragment of a recognisable Scotland left at the end of it.

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  1. J Robertson says:

    This is who we admire and prioritise over you ,,,In a nutshell this is the message from the Fake Greens. Well done to their voters for saddling us with an even bigger clown show than last time around ?

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    • James Barr Gardner says:

      The fake green party is an even worse toxin !

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  2. Campbell Clansman says:

    Why should anyone be surprised at this? It is a logical consequence of the SNP clinging to office and thus having to assuage the craziness of their coalition partners.
    And what’s sad is that the Scottish people (or at least, 42% of them) voted for this… The responsibility for this rests ultimately with those voters.

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  3. diabloandco says:

    What a fucking shambles.

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  4. Alf Baird says:

    We might add that there is also now a direct line from Stonewall to Swinney’s cabinet, even withoot the Greens in coalition.

    And so continues the ever ‘mystifying laws’ of a colonial administration (Fanon).

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    • Mark Beggan says:

      I thought these were your kind of people.

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      • Alf Baird says:

        If they were my ‘kind of people’ they would have declared independence after the first elected Scottish majority of ‘nationalists’.

        But thay irna nationalists!

    • Lorncal says:

      Alf: I like and admire you, but, please, please don’t keep on saying this is all about the uk, because it is not. Really, it’s not. Have you looked at England lately, at Wales, at NI? They are all captured. All the Nationalist parties are totally captured by this utter ordure.

      We need to ask why? Why the Nationalist parties, in particular, in the three Celtic parts of the UK? England is captured, too, with this stuff, but it’s wider there. The whole post modernist, cultural Marxist, queer theory shebang has landed at England’s door.

      I really, really, really wish to God that it was just ‘trans’ or just ‘immigration’, but it’s not. This stretches far out into Europe and beyond the seas into Canada, Australia, New Zealand – all the Westernized world. There is nowhere we can go to escape it, unless it’s Russia or China because they are the only two nations standing against it who will not back down and allow themselves to be captured – despite there fact that both are, ostensibly, at any rate, Communist nations states.

      Eire is a basket case whose citizens take to the streets every day now to protest what has happened with ‘trans’ and ‘immigration’. Many Irish people say that their forbears gave their lives, in many cases, to bring about Irish independence and they sacrifice has been sold for virtue-signalling stupidity of the grossest and deepest magnitude. Scottish independence will avail us nothing UNLESS we root out this corruption, this scamming, these parasitical lies, and those who tell them, first and foremost. No other way. None at all.

      What is going to happen is that Nationalists and Unionists will realize how much they have to lose and come together to defeat this existential evil: the very antithesis of independence narrative for almost a century. Who’d a thunk it? England will be the first to go, and then our independence will become absolutely necessary, no longer a dream, and even Unionists will understand that. This is what Nationalists in the SNP and any other independence grouping/party have done by not facing up to this scourge, but by deliberately fawning over it and fuelling its sociopathic takeover of our society. If you think I’m joking or making it up as I go along, wait and see.

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      • twathater says:

        As you are more than probably aware Lorna I was on WOS repeatedly urging and begging Stuart Campbell to at least give ATLS some publicity ,I was on social media every day urging people to give their vote to ATLS to enable and support the drive towards independence
        I was eager and enthused to promote ATLS’s positivity and determination for independence and their belief in DIRECT DEMOCRACY by the people
        Even when the stushie about Craig Murray took place I was still promoting voting for ATLS, their slogan INDEPENDENCE NOTHING LESS INDEPENDENCE NOTHING ELSE resonated with me
        After the election I read a post by Craig Murray the link for which I posted on WOS supporting and defending the election of these parasites, I was horrified,I posted a comment on Barrhead boy asking if Roddy and others supported Craig’s stance, a stance that aggressively derided and accused FOR WOMEN SCOTLAND as being a RADICAL ANTI TRANS campaigning group , his response was that ALL anyone was voting for if they voted ATLS was INDEPENDENCE, everything else was up to the candidates thoughts and beliefs ,as usual Roddy had donned his Peter A Bell hat on and replied with contempt and derision
        We have suffered 12 years of this deviant biology denial lunacy through the Scum Nonce Party perversion, and TBQH I thought ATLS would be a breath of fresh air and common sense to Scotland, but it appears through Craig’s support for this deviance that welcome to the NEW politics same as the OLD politics scenario would have been what we were voting for
        I was always under the impression that Eva Comrie being an outspoken female on the gender lunacy and protection of our women and girls would have the integrity to refuse to work with a male who supported this gender woo woo lunacy

      • Lorncal says:

        Twathater: that was always my own misgiving, that views such as Craig Murray’s and others’ would undermine the ‘independence only’ stance because I did not and have never believed it is possible to work with the ‘woke’ lobby. Had they had Craig elected, what would he have done when it came to a vote on this horsemanure? Even abstaining can help legislation pass.

        In an ideal world, yes, there would be no tension, but, in reality, Alliance/Liberate would have been forced into a corner from which it could not retreat. For many, most probably, as with the Greens and the SNP, it would not matter because women and children do not even enter the equation when it comes to their pet issues. Look at Eire, I say, and see what would happen to us even with independence.

        Roddy is opposed and always has been to the removal of female rights, and Eva would have voted against this stuff. It would probably be on a conscience basis. However, she would have been overruled and would have had to leave the parliament eventually. There is zero tolerance for any other opinion but this. I voted Alliance/Liberate despite my misgivings, but I know that ‘independence and nothing less’ will not work in the end because these people are relentless.

        As a young woman, I encountered misogyny and sexism, but I have never encountered anything like this. It truly frightens me. Not just because it is the very epitome of misogyny, but because it will wreck Scotland, my country, if left a free rein.

    • jock says:

      Dugdale, chair of Stonewall, is married to the depute FM. Surely a conflict of interest?

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  5. MaryB says:

    It would be interesting to know who is funding the Scottish Greens.
    Westminster must love them as disrupters. The SNP probably like them as distractors from having to do anything serious to help the people of Scotland. I believe the trans folk are funded from the USA as global disrupters.
    Holyrood has become a complete laughing stock, especially when you look at the make up of the new Scottish cabinet. Old faces who’ve never achieved anything useful.

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    • Campbell Clansman says:

      The new Scottish cabinet may not have “achieved anything useful” for Scotland.
      But they HAVE achieved something useful for themselves–a well paying job. And to SNP politicians, that’s what really matters.

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    • sam says:

      Before…

      link to thecritic.co.uk

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    • AntonDecadent says:

      If you look it up it only really lists them as funding themselves.

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    • Lorncal says:

      Westminster has far too many problems of its own now, as does America, MaryB. Some would have it that this is down to Putin or to the Chinese, but even they should be terrified by this stuff. There is absolutely nothing to be gained by allowing it a free rein, just as there was nothing to be gained by allowing the Nazi regime a free rein or the Communist regime a free rein. It has the potential to bring down everyone.

      It is a movement for sociopaths and psychopaths and they don’t care about anyone’s political leanings. Their entire raison d’être and the entire raison d’être of post modernism/queer theory/cultural Marxism is to destroy all norms, all political systems. If you take Pol Pot’s Year Zero in Cambodia, you will not be far off the truth of it. It’s not just the ‘trans’ issue. The entire West is in trouble as will be Russia, China, the Global South, Brazil, if they allow this in to their countries and it takes hold. Why can’t people see it for what it is?

      The Greens are parasites who desperately want power. Power is their motivation, even before sex, which comes a very close second for many of them (but probably not the leadership) and the more deviant and way out there, the better. The environment was never that important because they are globalists at their heart.

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      • Onlooker says:

        But the corporations have already basically destroyed all political systems, rigging them in their own favour. They are the (world) government now. So what have the nutcases got to destroy, politically? Serious question.

      • Geri says:

        The death cult brings censorship, sweeping changes to the law, population control & snoopers charter.

        Colonisers love division. It takes the spotlight off themselves & has the natives warring.

        Just look at that shower of nobodies up there – they’ve destroyed not only Holyrood but a huge chunk of the YES movement too. No danger of separation happening anytime soon.

        This guy has USaid written all over it just as that Wadhwa, Slater & Chapman do.

        They’ve completely destroyed the Greens too. Whatever happened to wee, sweet Louise Bachelor & the causes of nuclear mess from Trident? It’d be interesting to know if she’s still part of this depraved commune.

        What I’ll find very interesting is if this shit moves to Westminster or not with the exact same momentum because it’ll be highly suspicious if it doesn’t & there will be our answer..

  6. Mark Beggan says:

    The Rise of the Retards.

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  7. sam says:

    After….

    link to elearncollege.com

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    • Alf Baird says:

      Stonewall’s future now “depends on whether the public can fill the void left by fleeing sponsors”.

      So might we expect Swinney/Gilruth to raid the Holyrood budget to keep their LGBTQ racket going?

      And mair ‘mystifying laws’.

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  8. Cuphook says:

    This action by the civil service in Holyrood should worry everyone. It is an ideologically driven bureaucracy which plays with the rules so it can push an agenda unwanted by the people.

    They have also fiddled the Official Report again. First it was changing Yousaf’s racist speech and now it’s the Presiding Officer referred to the Indian student as ‘he’.

    Any organisation which allows ‘staff networks’ has essentially invited soviets to compete for authority.

    And it’s not just a Scottish problem. Wait until a UK Reform government meets the woke civil service.

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    • Captain Caveman says:

      “And it’s not just a Scottish problem. Wait until a UK Reform government meets the woke civil service.”

      I can’t wait, personally. Long overdue.

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      • Mark Beggan says:

        That’s where the real battle will be fought. All those skeletons and missing children.

    • Lorncal says:

      Bang on the money, Cuphook.

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  9. Sven says:

    And, every time this type of insanity occurs within our devolved administration it just becomes more challenging to persuade any commonsense, decent fellow Scot that we are capable of governing ourselves in an independent country.

    Why imagine that 77 Brigade, MI6 or any other agency would even bother attempting to destabilise Holyrood when it’s doing an exemplary job all on its own.

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    • Mark Beggan says:

      The seek them here they seek them there.
      They seek the 77 everywhere.
      They’re in the cupboard.
      They’re under the bed.
      Maybe, just maybe
      They only exist in your head.

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      • Sven says:

        Oh, they’re real enough, Mark. I just doubt that they are behind everything they get the blame for.

    • Captain Caveman says:

      This is nearing the logical conclusion of a heady combination of left wingers believing their own publicity and supposed moral superiority over the rest of us “deplorables” on the Right; the inevitable clamour for ever more extreme “left wing” policies from one year to the next, so as to outdo each other/be more left wing than the next guy (ever present tendency for “othering”); and the associated absurd “suicidal empathy” that sweeps away any common sense with such great disdain.

      It is surely an inevitable state of affairs – and psychology? It’s not as though the Left even takes ownership of any of this, with characteristic conceit, deflection and much crass revision attempts – even though they’re the ones doing it?

      Whatever it is, it needs uprooting and resetting IMO. No wonder Reform are cleaning up.

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      • Mark Beggan says:

        If these chancers can get away with the second vote. What’s stopping a far right outfit on the ‘Trans are a Disease’ ticket. The Blue Shirts against debauchery campaign. Keep Scotland Straight! They could get special needs funding.

      • Lorncal says:

        Mark: spot on. This is exactly what is going to happen. It is precisely what it is going to take to get rid of this horsemanure. However, let’s not crow too soon, because far right is just as bad as far left, so we need the pendulum to swing to the centre and, maybe, just a little to the right and a little to the left. This is how it used to be: the little to the right of can the was called, ‘conservative’ (small ‘c’) and the little to the left was called left liberalism (small ‘l’). In other words, sanity. Overreach is never a good idea.

      • Bilbo says:

        With 5 years more years of the SNP/Green coalition, Scotland will make the excesses of the Weimar German Republic look like Little House on the Prairie.

        It does feel that the SNP/Greens are daring people to vote for right wing parties.

      • Captain Caveman says:

        “However, let’s not crow too soon, because far right is just as bad as far left, so we need the pendulum to swing to the centre and, maybe, just a little to the right and a little to the left. This is how it used to be: the little to the right of can the was called, ‘conservative’ (small ‘c’) and the little to the left was called left liberalism (small ‘l’).

        I don’t agree with this at all. I would agree if we were living in normal times (politically speaking), but these are far from “normal times” – just read Stu’s article, as if any further proof of this were needed? We are well, well past “small-c conservatism” at this juncture.

        No, I’m afraid that desperate times call for desperate measures, akin to an aggressive course of chemo administered to a cancer patient with a well progressed tumour and metastases? (A horrible analogy sure enough, yet surely apt). The cure is itself going to be highly unpleasant and damaging of itself – almost as bad as the disease itself – yet it represents the sole option if there is to be any hope of success. Lemsip isn’t going to cut it.

        A very clear, radical, deeply reforming right wing government is now required – with a set of clear, concise objectives up front. Clear the stables, reverse “woke” in our politics, governance, institutions, universities and schools. Drastically reduce the millions upon millions not working, especially the young. Grasp the thorny nettle that is mass, illegal immigration. This list goes on. You ain’t getting that from Ken Clarke.

        In fact, we can already see quite clearly what another hand-wring, can-kicking Centrist government would do: we need only glance across the channel to drowning-in-debt, now largely ungovernable France, quite possibly even more poorly run than our own shambolic Labour government (or even Scotland’s SNP one). Germany isn’t much better.

        Whereas, under Italy’s so called “far right” government, things have drastically improved – unemployment at 10-year lows, national deficit down fully two-thirds at 3%, lower borrowing rates and so on. I’m an empiricist: in order to answer many questions in life, recent history usually has the answer. There really is no need to reinvent the wheel (see also: departure from moribund NHS model borne of 1950s left wing thinking and EU peer states vastly more efficient private insurance hybrid systems where you don’t need to wait 2 weeks to see a doctor).

        (The pejorative use of the term “far right” is so bogus anyway; these days even regular deoderant and mouthwash users who work and occasionally launder their coats and outer garments are “far right”).

        I’m afraid then that at this late hour, “overreach” isn’t only a good idea but actually a pressing necessity, whose continued delay will only make things even worse – and the inevitable reset all the more painful.

      • Hatey McHateface says:

        @Lorncal

        I’m afraid you’re wrong and CC is right.

        We need our own Trump to move fast and break things. Otherwise, the entrenched blob will sabotage every effort to unpick the current mess.

    • Geri says:

      They’re there working in the background.

      The Clinton’s established a network of disrupters from all over the world that are bussed in especially or planted into the centre of governments & NGOs. Usually young people plucked from Universities.

      The yanks are dumb enough to drag them before a televised senate on occasion where they make appeals to justify their funding. They then gob off at all the excellent work they’ve done & provide receipts – they were rather proud of their *excellent work & disruption* that kicked off the war in U.

      Imagine being dumb enough to beam that around the world?! To actually sit & admit yer proud of destroying an independent country where millions are dead & their lands sold Tae BlackRock?

      Sickos.

      The City of London secret government is where all this shit comes from. Huge Corporations run the UK. Westminster is just the pantomime show for the plebs.

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      • Hatey McHateface says:

        You forgot to say that only you can see them, Geri.

        Oh, and the biolabs. You forgot them too.

  10. Mark Beggan says:

    I really don’t know how the Rev does it. Apart from taking me weeks to type that amount. I would be physically sick having to look at those disgusting people.

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  11. Al-Stuart says:

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    Stu, I love your intro video.

    It puts me in mind of the stuff the SNP Sturgeon sycophant and minibus wanabee grifter at Scot-Goes-Pop-On-Holiday Jimmy The Grafting Jimmy-The-Janny and his “woven” funds from his never-ending fundraisers.

    Yon Midden-dwelling kreepy kelly was well cast as the Spreader-of-5hyte in the Trainspotting movie franchise.

    Ye kin almost see Jimmy fling his towel full of 5hytey words about Scottish politics. It would really be perfect casting in the next Trainspotting movie.

    The yappy Jimmy Kelly is still trying to parasitically leech readers of this Wings Over Scotland site over at his zombie website.

    The trouble is: NOBODY IS BUYING THE 5HYTE THAT WEE KELLY IS SPREADING.

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  12. Ian McCubbin says:

    Well done both votes SNP and the let’s vote green cause they are for Indy sheeples.
    You have given us 5 years of hell and woke woowoo extreme politics .

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  13. MaryB says:

    Perhaps the Stonewall funding shortfall has encouraged more trans activists to go into politics, so that they can keep up their ideological agenda whilst getting paid handsomely.
    But even so, the SNP government is still funding and prioritising their gender ideolological agenda which only serves to distract from the far reaching socio economic issues faced by Scotland.

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  14. Mark Beggan says:

    Just stumbled on a good British TV drama from 1973.
    The Fortunes of Nigel based on the book by Walter Scott.
    The historical references and witty Scots banter makes it quite compelling viewing.
    The joys of retirement.

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  15. bobo bunny says:

    With this and the football, the whole world is laughing at us. I am ashamed that these people, and indeed the SNP, supposedly represent us.

    I look forward to the revolution. When the time comes, I will happily machine gun every single last one of them.

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  16. Mark Beggan says:

    The best scene in that movie was when Begby found out in the car!

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  17. Mark Beggan says:

    SNP second vote,
    Mickey Forrester scene,
    ‘For all the good it done me I’d be as well sticking it up my arse”.

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  18. Campbell Clansman says:

    Which (if any) of the opposition parties have moved (or will move at some time) in Holyrood to reverse this insanity?
    Or will they acquiesce in this NewSpeak-style change?

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  19. sam says:

    There is a civil service “pronoun pledge” in Holyrood. It aims to encourage civil servants to use their “personal pronouns” when signing emails.

    It is not a welcome move. Holyrood.com says there is resistance among civil servants. 17% are willing to use gender pronouns. 25% say they don’t but might in the future. 58% say they won’t use them.

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  20. Bilbo says:

    That’s the Greens elected, most likely from 2nd votes of SNP voters. Their job to fill the coffers of the likes of Stonewall. The SNP gains by legislating silly laws that gets positive publicity from these charities. A sort of circular political economy where both feed off each other.

    The losers are us mugs, the tax payers. Looking for a dentist appointment, forget it. Looking for a GP appointment, forget it. According to the SNP, there’s a £5 billion deficit to plug.

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  21. Karen says:

    Ask the Greens why they have 2 co-leaders. I’ll tell you – one male, one female. Were they deliberately sabotaged by MI5, Mossad, the CIA or WEF??

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    • Mark Beggan says:

      No. They got into that mess all by themselves. What damage could any of the security forces do to what’s already damaged?

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  22. Mark Beggan says:

    Aye Sven.
    I need to know more about this 77 Brigade.
    What’s their mandate, who funds them, who is the leader and do they do fetes and gala days, fundraising events etc etc..?

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  23. Northcode says:

    Here’s a plan…

    Scotland and the indigenous Scots can’t change a single thing about their government, their country, or their fate as a people unless they liberate themselves from English domination.

    So…

    Step 1: Scottish independence (liberation if preferred).

    Step 2: Everything else.

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    • Mark Beggan says:

      You remind me of the infantry man in Jeff Waynes War of the Worlds.

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      • Hatey McHateface says:

        Didn’t he live in a hole in the ground too?

        But please cut Northy some slack. He’s provided us with the most comprehensive and detailed sequence and schedule for Indy that he’s capable of devising.

      • Mark Beggan says:

        Aye Hatey. Northy’s Brave New World. Even the martians got sick of listening to it.

      • Alf Baird says:

        Northcode is right, the only remedy for colonisation is liberation.

        Everything else is just ‘noise’.

      • Hatey McHateface says:

        Hey Alf. Did you know that Northy posts in praise of you as well? He also writes that the only remedy for colonisation is liberation and posts plugs for your book.

        Maybe you could ask him a question when you see him next.

        If Scotland’s malady has been mis-diagnosed, and we’re not suffering from colonisation, does that mean you’re prescribing the wrong remedy?

        Haha, of course it does.

        As our generous host evidences to us week after week after week, Scotland’s malady is tribalism. That leads to tribal politics, zero sum policies, stalemate, mismanagement, incompetence and a complete inability to improve our government. Because tribal voters are incapable of voting rationally.

        If we don’t fix that frankly third-world flaw in our people, independence will benefit us not one jot.

        It will however, hasten the break up of Scotland, along the tribal fault lines we can all see.

        Here’s an idea. Instead of you and Northy posting in lockstep, why don’t you debate your positions? Examine the evidence for and against. Bounce ideas off each other.

        You cannot seriously be entertaining the idea of repeating the same tired ideas that failed so comprehensively over the last 5 years for the next 5 years!

      • Alf Baird says:

        “Scotland’s malady is tribalism”

        The colonizer will always manipulate and ‘exploit tribal rivalries’ (Fanon), we know this from postcolonial theory.

        We also know that colonialism works ‘by debasing the colonized’ (Memmi), which seems your raison detre.

        Scotland’s ‘malady’ is therefore colonialism.

      • Northcode says:

        “If Scotland’s malady has been mis-diagnosed, and we’re not suffering from colonisation, does that mean you’re prescribing the wrong remedy? “

        An interesting question, I’m moved to give it some thought.

        Right, I’ve given it some thought… and this is my conclusion, but first I’ll reframe the question:

        Does the colonisation framework accurately describe Scotland’s condition, or does it obscure the true nature of the malady afflicting Scotland?

        If the diagnosis is wrong, the remedy is wrong.

        If the remedy is wrong, the malady deepens.

        And if the malady deepens, the nation loses sight of the path that might have healed it.

        Political theory warns us that: A compelling narrative [Scotland’s colonisation, say] is not necessarily an accurate one.

        If the colonisation framing illuminates Scotland’s condition, it’s useful.

        If it distorts Scotland’s condition, it’s damaging.

        The question isn’t whether the malady metaphor stirs a liberation/independence movement.

        The question is whether it’s true enough for a liberation movement to exist at all… let alone guide its actions.

        To call a situation “colonisation” is to invoke a specific historical grammar:

        1: domination by an external power

        2: extraction of resources

        3: suppression of culture

        4: denial of agency

        5: a relationship defined by coercion rather than consent

        If this grammar doesn’t accurately describe Scotland’s condition then the remedy of “decolonisation” becomes a mis-classification, a category error – a treatment designed for a different disease.

        However, this grammar appears to fit exactly with Scotland’s condition, and so the correct remedy to be applied is that of decolonisation – the only remedy, as it turns out, capable of treating and curing the constitutional disease afflicting Scotland.

      • Hatey McHateface says:

        Cheers, Northy.

        You’ve ignored my question, asked two of your own, and then provided verbose answers to your pair.

        I lack the words to adequately thank you.

        If I may be permitted one, tiny, petty observation.

        The entirety of your tedious pyramid of pomposity has been pebble dashed in English, and will thus be incomprehensible to the majority of True Scots.

        Did that just slip your mind?

      • Northcode says:

        “You’ve ignored my question…”

        I totally answered your question, fool.

        It’s not my fault your reading comprehension of your first language is so poor.

        Pompous pyramid my arse… my response to your boring question (the one I fixed for you) is a succinct, but full and clever answer to your original, half-formed and dreary half-wittit question.

        You should be honoured that I spared the five minutes needed to comprehensively defeat your pathetic attack.

        Honestly, you colonialists… also, I see you’re doing yer usual, swaggering roond this place boring the rest of us tae tears with what you think are clever retorts to other poster’s comments.

      • Hatey McHateface says:

        Aren’t you colonised, Northy?

        You’ll be cringing roond this place then.

        Maybe I’m not understanding your posts because you persist in writing them in English.

        Maybe nobody else understands them for the same reason.

      • Geri says:

        Shiteface

        “As our generous host evidences to us week after week after week, Scotland’s malady is tribalism. That leads to tribal politics, zero sum policies, stalemate, mismanagement, incompetence and a complete inability to improve our government. Because tribal voters are incapable of voting rationally.”

        Independence voters aren’t tribalist.

        We can see that by the huge difference in those who support Independence but do NOT support the supposed Nationalist party at the ballot box.

        I know of at least a dozen people + a dozen family who stopped voting SNP after 2016 debacle of doing nothing over Brexshit vote. Clearly they weren’t alone because SNP shed 35 Westminster MPs in the 2017 snap GE. They already had Sturgeons card marked as a fckn time waster.

        The only ones who’ll be voting SNP are the yoons. They’re the only ones who gain out of the status quo & stagnation – there’s a feckin surprise!

        They currently enjoy the best of both worlds – being a Yoon but shielded from Yoon policies with SNP mitigation.
        Safe in the knowledge they could still just vote no in a ref if it ever happened.
        NuSNP seems to want to be Scottish Labour.

        This site BTL even reflects this. No one here was voting SNP or Green. There was only one, Lizzie, but I think she was on a wind up.

        All of those conditions you describe above is cause of Colonialism. The Colonisers are the roadblock. Lest you forget, ya eejit, that Holyrood is an English administration & Scots now see it as such by increasing numbers that are deciding to just abandon the shit show altogether because they’re all yoons serving another country.

      • Hatey McHateface says:

        No such thing as a Yoon, Geri.

        How could there be, when there never was a Union?

        You really need to pay more attention to the writings of Professor Baird.

        You obviously suffer from many shortcomings and disadvantages, as your splenetic tirades on here attest. But just as somebody whose moo is eternally gobbing isn’t learning anything, neither is the spewer of borderline literate posts.

        Have a word with your extended circle of friends and family. There’s bound to be at least one who will care enough to give you some good advice – that you need to sit down and STFU.

        Then you might just be in a position to start learning.

        The meaning and correct usage of apostrophes, for starters!

    • Geri says:

      Exactly.

      I wrote a post saying basically the same but the gremlins ran away with it.

      Holyrood is an English administration. No point crying to us about it cause we voted to change it. This shit show isn’t on us.

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    • Northcode says:

      I repeat (and in bold, anaw)… independence first, then everything else!

      We Scots who seek our liberation from oppression should remember the words of that great man, Commander Peter Quincy Taggart when he famously said, “Never give up, never surrender!”

      And who could forget the battle cry of Dr. Lazarus , “By Grabthar’s hammer, by the suns of Worvan, we shall be avenged.”

      Yes, Scotland… never give up, never surrender and remember… independence/liberation first, THEN everything else.

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  24. John McNab says:

    The reference in the opening excerpt from ‘Trainspotting’ to no more guys or girls, just wankers, was first aired in that great classic of Scots cinema, ‘Gregory’s Girl’, when the boys are spying on the nurses at the nurses’ home, and the specky guy says that ‘in the future there’ll be no more men or women, just a whole world full of wankers’.

    There are also the other wankers, like those who have yet again been inexplicably re-elected to continue to shine their seats in Holyrood, as well as the dafties who are pursuing their self indulgent frottage at the UN of places to try to prove with research from the Scots college of specious bollocks that the UN should step in to break up the UK.

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    • Alf Baird says:

      “the UN should step in to break up the UK”

      That may be wishful thinking, tho international laws on ‘a peoples’ right to self-determination do exist.

      The failure of the political process in colonial societies means that a colonized people cannot depend on a nationalist party that ‘seeks an accommodation with colonialism’ (Fanon), that’s for sure.

      But at least now Scots and the international community better understand Scotland’s actual status:

      link to pressat.co.uk

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    • Hatey McHateface says:

      That final sentence.

      Harsh but fair.

      Anybody think this new HR 5-year sentence just commenced will impoverish Scots to such an extent that the crowdfunded grifters will finally have to get themselves jobs?

      Could be a silver lining in the gathering clouds.

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  25. Red says:

    We need mass deportations of the Green Party and their idiot supporters.

    No reason at all why Scots should tolerate foreign perverts infiltrating our political system to ruin our country. Democracy isn’t a suicide pact, their opinions aren’t worthy of respect.

    Ross Greer can go back to whatever test tube he and his wee plooky ginger pubes crawled out of.

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  26. Rob says:

    Folk are missing the main point with the two main dodgy characters the greens put in.
    It is not their sexuality, nor even their immigration status despite this being crazy.
    You could say the same about Lorna Slater to a degree but the folk in Edinburgh at least voted her in as a constituency candidate. (morons!)
    It is now that two people have been selected to represent Scotland and vote or policy and law for scotland that have no history or knowledge of being a normal scot.
    The ironic thing is that one of the reasons they were supposedly chosen is to represent immigrants, the majority of whom would string either of them up if they got the opportunity.
    I now treat Holyrood as a bad joke and have lost all respect for the institution, it needs to go!

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    • Bilbo says:

      Eligible students can vote in the Holyrood election even if they weren’t born in Scotland and/or don’t intend to stay in Scotland on a long term basis.

      The Greens got elected on SNP supporters 2nd vote but they also get votes from students which is one of the reasons why Slater got voted in as a constituency candidate.

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  27. sarah says:

    Someone btl said that India doesn’t permit its citizens to stand in another country’s elections. Can we ask the Indian Embassy to take formal steps to get Manivannan removed as an MSP – perhaps by complaining to the UK government?

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  28. sam says:

    Employment Tribunal case reported on by Tribunal Tweets. Lorna Young v Manchester City Council.

    The case has been part heard and will resume in September.

    Below is a link where you can find Tribunal Tweet’s daily report. It also contains reference to the 2022 motion put to Manchester City Council which the daily papers are using in their coverage of Burnham’s bid to be MP and PM simulataneously.

    link to tribunaltweets.substack.com

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  29. James Che says:

    The ” queer ” English parliament in Scotland under the “English parliaments transferred members” to Westminsters parliament ” … and their Scotland Act.”.

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  30. James Che says:

    Rob.

    The Anglo- Irish parliament of Westminster for England and Wales…. in Scotland under “their Scotland Act” does indeed have to go.

    Due to all members of that pretend parliament are all faking who they are in Scotland, as a Scottish Parliament by status, including Sweeney and any PO. And supposed MSP.

    They should be held to account, and get rid of the Queer people that the parliament for England and Wales persists in managing in Scotland under the Scotland act.

    We have not officially had a Scottish parliament since the Scottish parliament was dissolved in 1707.
    By Scotland and England.

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    • Aidan says:

      Oh no this has started up again 🙁

      Reply
    • Insider says:

      “James” Che

      Jesus, God almighty !

      Who dug you up again ?

      Reply
      • Geri says:

        Another one that doesn’t understand “Scroll on. Piss off”

        Leave her alone eh?

        Yer one post today had to be that one? To a grieving widow FFS! Seriously?!

        Nice to see you James. I hope yer keeping up x

  31. agentx says:

    “John Swinney has only been First Minister for a day and he has ordered his secretive SNP administration to launch fresh court action to block the release of information regarding the investigation into whether Nicola Sturgeon breached the ministerial code. Known as the “Salmond Files” it relates to evidence she gave to the Holyrood Inquiry into the handing of sexual misconduct complaints against Alex Salmond.”
    link to scottishdailyexpress.co.uk
    ———————————————

    And still it goes on!

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    • sam says:

      Murrell’s trial date 25th May. Karma 1 Day.

      Reply
      • diabloandco says:

        Sam , ‘scroll on , piss off’ has a nice ring to it!Unfortunately the invitation will not be taken!

      • robertkknight says:

        Don’t hold your breath… The British State tends to take care of its own.

      • James Barr Gardner says:

        Money is on a guilty plea, lighter sentence, less awkward questions, there will be no mention of the of the £600K…

  32. Fearghas MacFhionnlaigh says:

    EX-BBC DIRECTOR: ‘PRO-TRANS BIAS PERVADED CORPORATION’

    A former BBC Director of News and Current Affairs has revealed how the trans agenda played a significant part in driving her from the corporation.

    Fran Unsworth, who stepped down from the top job in 2022, told UnHerd that it was relentlessly difficult dealing with “progressive editorial issues and the bullying around them”.

    She pointed to a pervasive “social phenomenon” at the BBC, which prioritised being “kind to transitioning people” to such an extent that “maintaining impartiality became quite difficult”.

    BULLYING

    In an interview with ex-BBC editor Rob Burley, Unsworth said: “It was bullying. But it wasn’t just the trans issue. There was lots and lots of bullying going on about all sorts of things: people didn’t want to hear from certain points of view; they’d ‘no platform’ them”.

    “The world went mad, and the BBC, because it is part of the world, went a bit mad with it. This was going on in every institution in society; there was a kind of national bullying going on.”

    Regarding the transgender issue, she explained to Burley: “As you well know, editorial decision-making in the BBC isn’t top-down. It’s about editors deciding what they want to put on their programmes. And one of the big factors in it is because they took so much heat whenever they went near this subject.”

    However, according to Burley, Unsworth believed that the 2025 Supreme Court ruling on biological sex provided BBC journalists with a “basis of challenge” against those who championed transgender ideology, prior to which the facts “were incredibly disputed”.

    Responding to Unsworth’s allegations, the BBC said it has “taken a number of actions relating to our reporting of sex and gender” and continually reviews “coverage to reflect developments such as the Supreme Court ruling”.

    PRO-TRANS CENSORS

    In a leaked BBC document seen by The Daily Telegraph last year, journalists warned their executives that LGBT “desk staffers” were “keeping other perspectives off-air”.

    Michael Prescott, who worked at the corporation as an advisor on the Editorial Guidelines and Standards Committee (EGSC), told the newspaper: “The allegation made to me was stark: that the desk had been captured by a small group of people promoting the Stonewall view of the debate”.

    “There was also a constant drip-feed of one-sided stories, usually news features, celebrating the trans experience without adequate balance or objectivity.”

    BLINKERED

    The 19-page document also referred to an investigation conducted by EGSC senior editorial adviser David Grossman into BBC coverage of trans issues.

    Grossman found “unintended editorial bias”, an absence of “significant voices”, “little or no coverage” questioning the quality of care given to gender-confused children, and a disproportionate coverage of drag queen stories.

    The leaked memo also said beliefs on gender identity were often reported as “established fact rather than contested”. Too many staff, it argued, “have never considered the idea of ‘gender identity’ to be either spurious or offensive to many people”.

    (The Christian Institute, 21 May 2026)

    link to christian.org.uk

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  33. Lorncal says:

    HMcH/CC: Ia absolutely agree that something drastic needs to be done now, but I am not sure the far right is the answer. By the way, I have never believed Reform to be the far right; they are right of the Tories with whom, ion there were any sense in either, they would ally again.

    I am talking about letting in the far right to cure the far left: a disaster waiting to happen. Whenever the far right or the far left overreaches itself, the other steps in and destroys whatever is left. If that’s what you want, fine.

    Personally, I want a return to the norms by which society can thrive. What I do foresee is both the nationalist (small ‘n’) camp and the Unionist camp coming together because there is no other way to put a halt to this insanity. It will be a bumpy ride, and, at the end of it, there will be independence – but for all four parts. We might decide to come together again as a federated polity, which, I think, would be sensible on a policy by policy basis, much like the Scandinavian model.

    However, if we do nothing we will let the far left destroy everything that is good about our society, which is part of the overarching Western culture/civilization and if we allow the far right too much leeway, we will tumble into the polar opposite of the far left’s lunacy. Either way, we will have a totalitarian state, even if it is independent. As always, you are both omitting the elephant in the room – England – which is in even greater dire straits than we are. I have said for a long time now that England will crumble under its own pressures and independence will come through that.

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    • Captain Caveman says:

      I pretty much agree with all of that. I’m used to Reform being denigrated as “far right” (especially by “ultra lefties”), when in fact, its grass roots base is filled to the gunnels with “scunnered” small-c Conservatives such as myself, ironically enough. I should’ve realised that you would be far more rational and mature about such matters.

      It comes down to priorities, and I think for decent unionists and nationalists alike, we can surely mutually agree that some things really are more pressing, that demand our collective attention and working together. There are mutual lessons to be learnt, too, no doubt about that.

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      • Alf Baird says:

        “decent unionists”

        Scotland was annexed by England in 1707, Scots made subject to colonial procedures ever since. There niver wis ony ‘union’:

        link to youtube.com

      • Hatey McHateface says:

        Never wis ony union, Alf?

        If only I had £1 for every time you’ve sat stumm after some thicko on here had hurled the insult “Yoon” at somebody.

        All those opportunities you’ve neglected to set a knuckle dragger on the path to enlightenment, eh, Alf?

        But it’ll be different from now on. Nae union, sae nae unionists, sae nae Yoons. You’re gonna be run aff yer feet keeping people right on here.

    • Alf Baird says:

      “Personally, I want a return to the norms by which society can thrive.”

      Return? Really? Has the hale o Scotland iver ‘thrived’ in oor lifetimes, or since annexation?

      Please explain how an economically plundered and culturally subordinated colonial society can ever be permitted to thrive?

      Surely the more constant reality for an under-developed colonised fowk and country is the opposite, i.e. the Scots wird ‘misthriven’, meaning: Not prosperous, in straits, unfruitful, undernourished.

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      • Lorncal says:

        I’m sorry, Alf, but we are in a Union. Some years ago, I did an in-depth study of the Union and all the workings around it, and I can see no legal way out of it. That we have, at times especially, been treated was a colony, that we have allowed London to dictate our energy requirements and many other things, yes, indeed.

        Personally, I have no faith in the UN. It is filled to the gunnels with former colonized nations which are itching to thrash the UK, but, strangely, not other former colonial power. Wow do need to try everything, however.

        I was talking about the period between WWII and the Thatcher era when I wrote of norms, and, by norms, I meant the boundaries by which all civilized, democratic nations live, and we used to be a civilized, democratic nation.

        This pestilence that we call ‘woke’ and whose worst manifestation is the rise of the ‘trans’ sadism and madness needs to be removed before independence, Alf, or our independent Scotland will be a living hell for too many of us. I’m sorry you don’t see that. Many males in the independence movement don’t see it or want to see it because they actually believe that it will never affect them. Well, if we import totalitarianism into our independent Scotland, you, and every other man in the independence movement will come to understand only too well.

        I just do not see any other way to combat what would be disastrous for all of except to come together, nationalist and Unionist, and fight it as one. It will be a short-term initiative and, as I said, it is very unlikely that England can survive as England-as-the-UK much longer and the Union will fall. The stresses and strains are now too great and the only relief will be to separate as four independent states. In a way, perhaps we should be thanking the SNP, Greens and all the ultra left in England, Wales and NI who have contributed to this state of affairs. Their madness has been the catalyst which will end both the Union and themselves, but there is no shortcut. They will have to be uprooted, and, politically, blood will have to be spilled, speaking metaphorically.

      • Dan says:

        Sigh, how very better togetheresque.
        I guess that rainbow coloured bare arsed dildo sporting monkey trying to get kids interested in reading in England under a “right wing” Conservative government must have jist been an acid flashback.

        But it wasn’t…

      • Geri says:

        Dan, LOL!

        Lorncal

        “Personally, I have no faith in the UN. It is filled to the gunnels with former colonized nations which are itching to thrash the UK, but, strangely, not other former colonial power. ”

        Aww, my wee heart bleeds. Ever wonder why no one has any time at the UN for little old Limey?

        It’s because they’re terrorists that never actually just fuck off from a country that has ordered them to. They’ve always either annexed a part or conduct convert operations to fuck it up from the sidelines. Always keeping their nose into business that’s nothing to do with them. That, along with having no merit to be sitting on the security council (They’re a skint has-been that isn’t a superpower & has fck all population) & their constant meddling & surveillance as part of the terrorist network, Five Eyes.

        Behind every terrorist there you’ll find the English. With the usual sob: oh, they were just minding their own bizz when all hell broke loose, it wisnae us, guv, honest!!

        Maybe now that their Hegemony is over they’ll curb that big mouth they have. Their dumb enforcers will have to wise up too. It’ll be all change at the UN and little old Blighty won’t have a seat. There’s a dossier already waiting for them for war crims when these conflicts & Jenny, that they played a major role in, are over.

      • Northcode says:

        “…the ‘trans’ sadism and madness needs to be removed before independence, Alf…”

        Not so, that’s retrospective determinism — treating the present outcome as if it were inevitable, even though the conditions that produced it won’t necessarily exist after independence.

        In logic it’s classified under:

        1: Historiographical fallacies – presentism, teleology and suchlike.

        2: Causal fallacies – Because it assumes inevitability.

        3: Cognitive biases – Specifically, hindsight bias.

        4: Rhetorical fallacies – Used to shut down debate by claiming the outcome was predetermined (we see it a lot in this place).

        Remember the Scottish Liberation Movement’s plan…

        Step 1: independence

        Step 2: Everything else

    • Stuart MacKay says:

      Returning to norms does not benefit any of the existing political parties, or their positions. In fact quite the opposite. I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for some alliance to drag the world back to its senses.

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      • Lorncal says:

        Stuart: that was not my point. It will only come back to reality when the pressures start to show the cracks. When the cracks become fissures, the edifice will fall. Down will come the UK, ‘woke’ and all. First, though, someone has to challenge them. They are the linchpin that needs to be removed because they are a block to independence, not the saviours some believe them to be. Women are challenging them every day in the courts somewhere in the UK.

        By the way, when I said that I can see no legal way to leave the Union, I meant that we are in a legally-binding Union and, therefore, we will have to leave it legally, as well as politically. Apologies. However, I do believe that might be far sooner than we might have anticipated. England is crumbling. Nothing can stop this now. We all need to get out of the Union – Scotland, England, Wales and NI – without having descended into totalitarianism.

  34. sam says:

    Having read the Tribunal Tweets transcript of much of the Employment Tribunal hearing of Ms Young v Manchester City Council I think the Council has much to fear from the outcome.

    This is the opening parargraph of the MMC motion.

    “Notice of Motion – Trans Rights Are Human Rights

    Manchester is a city that firmly believes in equality of opportunity. We believe that trans women are women, trans men are men and non-binary individuals are non-binary. We know that our differences within our communities can make our city stronger and that shapes the vision of our city.”

    Burnham is sure to face questions on this

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    • Bilbo says:

      I have no interest in English politics but it’s obvious Burnham is only seen a popular candidate to become PM because he is out of the Westminster bubble. If it does get elected as a MP, he is going to be seen as toxic as everybody else in the Labour party.

      He is also going to highlight though the demise of Labour as a party of every able to form a government of their own and going down the path the Tories are going.

      I don’t know what goes on in the background with funding and lobbying but it’s obvious that Labour wants to be everything to all men and flip-flop on every issue.

      The electorate doesn’t want that and what will happen is Labour will hemorrhage support to the Libs, Greens and Reform. If Burnham does get elected as a MP and if he does become PM, he isn’t going to stop that.

      It’s best to look at idle curiosity and bemusement towards the clown show that is Westminster politics.

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      • Hatey McHateface says:

        Surely a blinkered attitude if you stand to make a killing by betting on how long he will last as PM.

        I’d put £100 down on 31 weeks.

        But it’s academic. Reform will stroll the by-election and Burnham will rue the day he tried to pretend we all want back in the EU.

        Because the UK is broke. Still paying the EU divorce settlement from last time (as is Scotland).

        Quite unable to find the ticket price a vengeful and spiteful Brussels is going to sting us for if we’re daft enough to try for a reconciliation.

  35. Sven says:

    Lorncal @ 12.16.

    “I want a return to the norms by which society can thrive.”

    Exactly, LornC. And the demonstrated possibility of such a condition existing is, I’d suggest, the period between 2007-2014 when with the deft hand of the late Alex Salmond on the tiller our “ship of state” sailed on through a time of stability and good governance.
    In fact, so generally recognised was the generally favourable manner in which the devolved administration conducted its affairs the result of the referendum shook the westminster establishment to its core.
    Unfortunately the disastrous (possibly wilful) incompetence of the succeeding SNP administrations, primarily under Ms Sturgeon, have (my opinion) succeeded in the sole achievement of conveting the “Ship of State” into a veritable “Ship of Fools”.

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    • Captain Caveman says:

      “And the demonstrated possibility of such a condition existing is, I’d suggest, the period between 2007-2014 when with the deft hand of the late Alex Salmond on the tiller our “ship of state” sailed on through a time of stability and good governance.”

      It’s interesting to note that Salmond’s minority SNP government worked in informal coalition with the Tories for most of this timeframe.

      Just goes to show that grownup politicians can work together for mutual benefit and the common good. (The Tories did OK out of it themselves, too, with important right of centre concessions like zero business rates for new enterprises, 1000s of extra police officers on the beat, cash grants form run down town centres etc.).

      All a far cry and stark contrast indeed to today’s childish, polarised schoolboy politics; Swinney refuses point blank on principle even to talk to Scotland’s second largest elected parliamentary party (Reform).

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    • Geri says:

      No reason that can’t happen again & forever more.

      Better to sail our own ship, & remove fools. Than someone steer it on our behalf with no means to ever remove them.

      We’ve had how many PMs over the last few years? It’s hardly rock solid proof that they’re strong, stable & we’re all in safe hands.

      The direction they’re taking should frighten the crap out of everyone. They’re corrupt too so let’s not be too hard on ourselves. We only have an administration. They run the whole shit show & it doesn’t smell of roses.

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    • Lorncal says:

      Sven: I do not believe she ever was a committed nationalist. I do not believe that the Greens are nationalist in any sense of the word. Many say that ‘woke’ was the distraction from independence. I believe and have always believed that it was the other way round, and that independence was the distraction for ‘woke’.

      The Greens are fully committed to stripping back society to its bare bones, minus all the Western civilising aspects. They want to strip away all the cultural, philosophical, political, etc. norms that have governed Scotland for a millennia, also as a part of the UK, but also as a part of Europe and as an integral part of the whole Western ethos.

      Essentially, they know our strength lies in our societal norms and they want to weaken, then destroy them, ostensibly to create a new Scotland, a new UK, a new Europe and a new Western overarching culture. Pol Pot, in Cambodia, had the same ambition. Replace the people with malleable automatons who do not think. That should be warning enough.

      That is what so many simply do not get: that independence cannot come because we have so many independence MSPs at Holyrood. In reality, we have precious few. The Greens are stuck on a totalitarian, dystopian future and the SNP, albeit there will be at least some who are genuinely in favour of independence, the majority are in favour of nest-feathering and/or stuck on the same project as the Greens, a kind of folie a deux. A referendum now would be lost – comprehensively.

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  36. agentx says:

    Speaking to the Press Association on Thursday, the First Minister said: “I intend to bring forward a motion to Parliament on Tuesday, following a statement, subject to the agreement of the parliamentary authorities, about the Government’s priorities, to give Parliament the opportunity to say what I believe it will say, because there is the largest number of independence supporting MSPs in the Scottish Parliament, that the constitutional future of Scotland should be decided by a referendum, delivered through a section 30 order involving a transfer of powers.

    “So we will put that to Parliament on Tuesday, subject to the agreement of the parliamentary authorities, to enable us to have that choice.”

    Asked if he is confident the motion will be passed, the First Minister added: “There is the largest number of MSPs supporting independence, so I will put forward that proposition as part of fulfilling the commitments I made in the election and providing us with the opportunity to take forward the agenda to make sure that Scotland’s future is in Scotland’s hands.”

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  37. lothianlad says:

    Lets not forget his so called friends in PIE. Harvey that is.

    Disgusting!!

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  38. BigJay says:

    Come on Rev., do a takedown on that howling success of an SNP politician, Angela Constance.

    I think she’s now on her eighth (it’s so hard to keep count!) Cabinet Secretary/Minister post & it’d be difficult to say that she’s been successful or competent in any of them. Why does she keep getting appointed? What does she know?

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    • Hatey McHateface says:

      It’s in the name – Constance.

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    • GM says:

      It’s a toss up between her and Ivan McKee who is the best minister amongst them. I see Somerville still being rewarded for services to Nicola Sturgeon. Just close the place doon, it’s failed the punters and is now persecuting them.

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  39. Northcode says:

    “Speaking to the Press Association on Thursday, the First Minister said…”

    There’s some good rhetoric going on here… does Swinney have a new speech writer or ‘how to talk to the press’ coach, I wonder.

    Here we see…

    The language of commitment without commitment:

    A leader who really believes in a cause tends to speak in terms of outcome – Alf Baird, for instance, speaks in terms of Scottish liberation as the best outcome for the Scots as a people.

    A leader who is managing a coalition, a party, a faction, or whose loyalties are not to those they lead, speaks in terms of process.

    Swinney’s answer is entirely process-driven:

    “I will put forward the proposition…”

    “fulfilling the commitments I made…”

    “providing us with the opportunity…”

    This is performative language.

    The language of someone using mandate rhetoric.

    The language of someone reluctantly fulfilling an obligation… not the language of someone championing a belief.

    There’s also a bit of an appeal to democratic legitimacy woven through Swinney’s answer, but it’s weak and a wee bit pish.

    In Machiavellian terms, this is the rhetoric of a prince who must appear devoted to a cause he cannot afford to oppose… but also cannot afford to deliver.

    What an uncomfortable place to be… it’s no wonder Swinney aye looks as if he’s aboot tae tak a shit.

    The closing line – “to make sure that Scotland’s future is in Scotland’s hands” – is a bland moralised abstraction.

    It is not a commitment to independence.

    It is a commitment to the IDEA of self-determination, which is politically safer and infinitely more flexible.

    Swinney’s statement is the rhetoric of a leader who must appear committed to independence without actually advancing it.

    He invokes mandate to shield himself, uses moral language to obscure extreme caution, and evades direct answers to avoid accountability.

    This is the behaviour of a political actor managing a movement – in this case the independence movement – rather than leading it.

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    • agentx says:

      Couldn’t you get a few more paragraphs in there?

      Reply
    • Northcode says:

      Here, I meant to add this, my final analysis bit, to the end of my last comment, but I forgot – what an idiot am I.

      For those interested… Swinney’s underlying logic is about:

      managing a movement, not advancing it

      If we assume Swinney does not truly support independence, then his rhetorical strategy makes perfect sense:

      1: He must keep the independence movement calm.

      2: He must avoid provoking the unionist establishment.

      3: He must avoid committing to a referendum he cannot win.

      4: He must maintain internal party unity.

      5: He must avoid being the leader who “failed” the cause.

      Thus, he speaks in a way that:

      a) signals loyalty to independence supporters.

      b) avoids concrete steps toward independence.

      c) keeps the machinery of government stable – reasonably stable, anyway.

      d) protects his own position.

      This is political risk-management — the kind Machiavelli argued was essential for any ruler who wished to survive.

      Swinney’s a bland bore of a prick, but he’s a bland bore of a prick who knows how to survive the world of politics… beyond that he’s pretty fucking useless to the Scottish Liberation Movement.

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  40. TURABDIN says:

    What next? Text books?
    The shelf life for politicians ought, for public health, to be short.
    Hallucination in the breed ends in dictatorship of the kakistocracy.

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  41. Iain D says:

    The Scottish Parliament and Scottish politics as a whole, has become a badly written soap opera.

    I think the list vote is partly to blame – this year is was stupidly long. I think it is time to come up with a better system but for now, perhaps tying the list vote to the constituency vote would be the most sensible thing.

    It will force fringe parties to properly organise and find funding (many will fail) and will lesson the gaming of the system by only standing on the list.

    Perhaps then, there will be more sensible people in parliament who do not wish to live out their fetishes in the public domain.

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  42. agentx says:

    “21 May 2026, 18:37 BST

    Single-sex spaces – such as changing rooms and toilets – must be used on the basis of biological sex, new guidance from the equalities watchdog has confirmed.

    This means, for instance, that a trans woman – a biological male who identifies as a woman – should not use female toilets or changing rooms, according to the code of practice.

    The guidance, produced by the Equalities and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) and now approved by ministers, makes it clear that transgender people should instead be offered a third or a gender-neutral space.”
    ————————————————

    No reason for the SNP Government to ignore that now.

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  43. Fearghas MacFhionnlaigh says:

    ROYAL COLLEGE OF NURSING SLAMMED FOR FLYING ‘TRANS PRIDE’ FLAG

    The Royal College of Nursing has come under fire for promoting an “ideological stance” by flying the ‘Trans Progress Pride Flag’ at its London headquarters.

    In a letter to Chief Executive Professor Nicola Ranger from the Darlington Nursing Union, President Bethany Hutchison warned that the flag is associated with “a set of political positions that many nurses do not share”.

    The union represents a group of nurses who recently won their discrimination case against County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust, after they were forced to share female-only changing rooms with a man who identifies as a woman. Any UK nurse can join the union if they agree with its foundational principles based on the reality of biological sex.

    ‘INCREASING CONCERNS’

    Hutchison stated: “Many frontline nurses, whose dedication sustains our profession, are increasingly concerned about what this public display represents.”

    For example, she highlighted, for those who hold “Christian beliefs or gender-critical views”, the “display of the flag from the RCN’s headquarters may appear not as a neutral act of inclusivity, but as an endorsement of a particular ideological stance that stands in direct opposition to their deeply held convictions”.

    “Inclusivity, if it is to carry real meaning, must extend to all members. It cannot be selectively applied or come at the expense of those who hold lawful, protected beliefs.

    “The current situation risks conveying an image not of a broad and representative professional body, but of an organisation that has been captured by a narrow and contested political perspective.”

    VICTORY

    In January, an Employment Tribunal ruled that County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust’s ‘Transitioning in the Workplace’ policy was unlawful for “permitting biological males who identify as women to use a female changing room”.

    Employment Judge Sweeney and Tribunal members Denise Newey and Malcolm Brain found that the policy, which instructed women to find alternative changing facilities if they were uncomfortable getting changed in front of a man, ‘violated the dignity’ of the nurses by creating “a hostile, humiliating and degrading environment”.

    This was compounded, they highlighted, by the Trust not taking the nurses’ concerns seriously.

    The judgment highlighted that the Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992 require employers to provide changing facilities which “include separate facilities for, or separate use of facilities by, men and women where necessary for reasons of propriety”.

    (The Christian Institute, 21 May 2026)

    link to christian.org.uk

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  44. Bilbo says:

    O/T.

    I see that the UK is lifting sanctions and buying oil produced by R via India. They do this yet still have these crazy policies towards that country.

    This is why I had mentioned that Westminster is heading for multi-party politics because they can’t form coherent direction but instead follow ones that affects large parts of the population and they have to eventually back down when faced with reality.

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    • Hatey McHateface says:

      Arse over tit, Bilbo.

      The policies over the past 4+ years were sane and rational.

      It’s the buying of diesel now that is crazy.

      I’ll cheer crazily myself if the freedom fighters in the east put an Indian tanker or two on the bottom. In the circumstances, they’re legit targets.

      We have the oil and gas we need to make up current shortfalls under the North Sea. We’ll know WM is getting serious when we see Milliband being escorted out of his office by security.

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      • Bilbo says:

        The rants from the riff-raff is that Reform voters are fascists and racists. The reality is that Reform voters are not fascists or racists not very naughty boys who like to throw out their dummies and wail and greet to get attention.

        That’s why nobody will take them seriously.

      • Geri says:

        Shiteface,

        Can’t.

        It’s running out remember?

        The pishy UK cannot refine it & it lacks the infrastructure to do so.

        Fifty years of oil extraction & it doesn’t have a pot to pish in. No oil fund either to cover a crisis & higher costs & no infrastructure.

        There’s yer mighty UK. Spaffes everything up the wall. Just where did all the boom times go? Straight to their offshore accounts that’s where.

        Now they’ll have to stump up the going rates + extra cause they’re britnats, at every country it has to route through.

        As for wishing Indian tankers tae swim with the fishes – sicko. They’re not legit targets. WTF is U to do with them exactly? Nothing.

        Anyhoo, yer cooked. Asia is going into self preservation mode & making pacts right, left & centre with each other that doesn’t include the West but opens up land & sea trade with each other along with currency payment systems & direct routes.

        You were the dip shit that cheered on blowing up Nord stream too. Along with stealing R assets. Congratulations – now you pay extra & effectively cheered on yer own demise.

    • Geri says:

      They were on the phone begging them for aviation fuel too.

      R told them to GTF.

      Imagine having the audacity to even ask a country they’ve been committing terrorist attacks against to help them out?

      & They’re on notice. Any more sly attacks from the Baltic’s towards their nuclear & oil sites & they’re toast. R government approved phasers tae malky. Nae quarter given.

      In other news, allegedly R can now remote control U drones & reverse them back to whence they came & Estonia shat it cause the return hit one of their own installations instead!

      How cool is that? That’s what ye call a win. *High fives*

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      • Captain Caveman says:

        “In other news, allegedly R can now remote control U drones & reverse them back to whence they came & Estonia shat it cause the return hit one of their own installations instead!

        How cool is that? That’s what ye call a win. *High fives*”

        “High fives”…? Fuck me…

        What is it with you and totalitarian states? When you’re not cheering on “I”, you’re “high fiving” “R” for blowing up non-combatant Europeans…

        No, sweetheart, that’s “ye call” an odious, swivel-eyed loon. Apart from the glaringly obvious, quite what this has to do with decent, Indy-minded Scots wanting their own country is anyone’s guess. I’d wager most of them (outside these four walls) would want nothing whatsoever to do with deeply unhinged, unpleasant, low-IQ nutters like yourself.

      • Geri says:

        “for blowing up non-combatant Europeans…”

        LOL, ya dunce, the whole of NATO is involved with trying to attack R & has been since the start of this conflict. It must be dark there under yer rock. Do you not follow word news?

        The odious Kaja Kallas, of Nazi heritage, former PM of Estonia & now EU flop, has been yapping for years to attack R. She’d personally love to Colonise & balkanise it into tiny wee manageable countries for the EU to control & YOU, yes that’s YOU, sunshine, should be getting off yer arse & go sign up for the military to make all her dreams come true.

        She is a dangerous liability that keeps escalating even when everyone else (Poland, Germany, Italy ect) tell her to STFU! She now wants to start annoying the fuck out of China. A wee mouthy pipsqueak with no military to back it up.

        She’s all for WW3 & has even encouraged U to ILLEGALLY attack from the Baltic nations. Looks like they finally took her up on her offer & it backfired spectacularly – hitting one of Estonia’s installations instead with a U drone.

        I suggest you go educate yersel & what it is you are actually trying to defend here because its now going to be a free for all then don’t cry when one hits Blighty.

        Why do you keep bringing Scottish Independence into it?

        But seeing as you have – I imagine the majority aren’t on the wrong side of history trying desperately to defend colonising wankers & Jenny sidal psychos. Maybe you should ask yourself & yer fellow Yoons why they are? You cozying to literal Nazis now?

      • Hatey McHateface says:

        Wow. Counting to 5 now.

        Goes almost without saying. The fact that “High Fives” is a mannerism of Geri’s so-called Great Satan, flies right over the delightful Barb’s empty little head.

  45. James Che says:

    history lessons and exam results must have all held C’s and D’s.and fails for Lornical.
    But due to saying they have done a job and in depth study out loud they have given them selfs a pass.
    This is how the queer parliament behaves, given themselves a pass and you are told you have to believe it.

    For simplification and correlation of understanding how officialdom works, lets pretend the 1707 Scottish parliament was a car,

    1) The car is not working for you how you want it to, = as with the two parliamentary union between England and Scotland.

    2) You decide to take the car off the road officially = as with the 1707 Scottish parliament = Dissolution.

    3) Now the car can be sent to the Scrap heap to become dismembered. = as with the 1707 Scottish parliament..

    4) what you cannot do is drive it ever again,
    re register it again.
    Sell it as a official valid running vehicle again, = as with the 1707 Scottish parliament.

    I hope you understand this as a related simplified example and analysis set out that when an legal item or legal entity construct has been
    Scrapped,
    removed,
    ended,
    dismembered,
    Passed merit as no longer useful.
    Come to the end term of its life,
    Dissolved.
    It is not an active vehicle or parliament, cannot continue to travel, to be used. It cannot go from a) to b).
    It fails to legally be the original construct of car or in this case it fails to be the 1707 Scottish parliament in a union with the parliament of England

    This is the situation and legal construct of the 1707 treaty of union for Englands parliament for England and Wales.
    But not for Scotland being Absent of a Scottish parliament since 1707 in a union that was dissolved in 1707 with the parliament of England, by both the Country of England and the Country of Scotland,

    Which bit in your homework do you not understand or missed and which are you stating, links to a 1707 treaty of parliamentary union between England and Scotland.

    Legally and a impossible situation for Westminster parliament to subsume a 1707 Scottish that does not exist as a parliament both in the Countries of Scotland and England since 1707.

    If you do your homework again you will find only the Scottish parliament does not exist in the hoax 1707 treaty of non union,
    And that the parliament of England members continued when they were transferred into the new named Parliament GB parliament for England and Wales by the monarch of England,

    Which ceased to exist as a created union entity of Great Britain once the Scottish parliament was dissolved from it in 1707.

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  46. James Che says:

    Lornicl,

    The political parliamentary treaty of union between Scotland and England does not exist when both Countries cancelled and ceased the union from continuing by dissolving the 1707 Scottish parliament from the parliamentary union, which by the way included the articles ceasing the monarchy as being a shared monarchy once Scotland was dissolved from the treaty of union.

    There is a need to go back to homework for a more in depth study.
    And Scotland never made a treaty of union with the English parliament for England and Wales threafter it was dissolved in 1707.

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    • Geri says:

      So the Scottish parliament never signed off on the union if it closed shop?

      It also wasn’t within their remit to surrender Scots Sovereignty to another country.

      Lorna seems to have completely ignored the list of pre approved conditions too had it gone ahead? The Claim of right.

      This was a political union. Not a territorial one – so that suggests right off the bat that Scotland wasn’t entering some magical shiny new State or we’d not have remained Scotland. Retained our own institutions & laws.

      It also completely ignores that we’ve already held an independence referendum.

      It also completely ignores David Davies truth bomb,

      There is no other treaty in the world I’m aware of where a sovereign nation undertakes to join up and can only leave when the other side says so”.

      &

      If a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy.”

      The *no way out* claim is defeatist bullshit.

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      • Alf Baird says:

        “The *no way out* claim is defeatist bullshit”

        Indeed, and it is clearly not only “the colonizer (who) maintains that there is no prospect of liberation for the colonized” (Memmi), the assimilated native also joins in such colonial myths.

        A colonized people must ignore all such mischievous claims, including those of the colonial administration that a ‘Scotland Act Section 30 Order’ is a necessary condition for the liberation of a doun-hauden people and the ending of a worthless violated never-implemented treaty.

        The truth is that no colonized peoples’ ever needed a ‘Section 30 Order’ to decolonize, nor a dubious referendum process, question and franchise managed by the colonizer.

    • Lorncal says:

      I use Lorncal, Geri, as you use Geri. Shall I call you something else? I suggest that you and others actually read all of the Treaty of Union AND all the workings around it from a legal perspective. The Treaty is a legal Union under international law. Nobody has said – least of all I – that we cannot use international law to leave the Union. Of course we can. The CoR will not be honoured. Westminster signed off on it precisely be cause it would not be honoured. We need to have a majority, politically, for independence. Once that is achieved, we declare UDI, then negotiate the resiling of the Treaty in international law.

      That is not going to happen because the UK is going to fall first – at least, England-as-the-UK will crumble first. Then we take our independence. The Baltic States joined hands across borders before their independence. Did it get them independence? Nah. They got it when The Soviet Union collapsed. This is how most states get their independence or they fight for it or they get it when their colonizer leaves. The hard left – the Greens, the ‘wokerati’, the post modernists, the pro Palestine marchers and queer theorists, et al – have gifted Scotland its independence; you’ll just have to wait a wee while longer for it all to collapse under its own hubris. Nemesis is never far away from overreach.

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      • Geri says:

        Okeydoke, my mistake.

        There used to be poster called Lorna. I assumed you were the same one. My bad..

      • Northcode says:

        Never apologise! Never give up! Never surrender!

        Yeah, I’m in one of those moods theday… it will pass – hopefully soon.

      • Captain Caveman says:

        “Never apologise! Never give up! Never surrender!

        Yeah, I’m in one of those moods theday… it will pass – hopefully soon.”

        Just take your usual 5 afternoon Mogadon, Northy, you’ll soon be back to your usual sharp-witted self, no doubt again regaling us with tales about how the UK isn’t a nuclear state and “I” is really quite lovely this time of year. 😀

        Cheers! 🙂

      • Northcode says:

        “Northy, you’ll soon be back to your usual sharp-witted self…”

        Yes… I expect I will be soon enough, Caveman.

        A wit like mine; a wit as sharp as the edges on my swords Ciniod’s Fang and Storm-bane and keen as the point of a needle… is irrepressible.

        It demands to be unleashed several times a day – like some magnificent mythical Pictish beast appearing oot o the primordial mist; its patterns alive with answers to mystical questions and ther weave moving to a rhythm yont the ken o mortal man… aye, an the ken o mortal weemen tae, nae dout.

      • Hatey McHateface says:

        “Shall I call you something else?”

        In the post volunteering to take shifts on Confused’s portable gas chambers, for the extermination of Scots who ask them awkward questions, she did express a desire to be called Barbie.

        As to whether the notorious war criminal, or the famous air head, I leave to you to decide.

        She has a solid track record of posts supporting both interpretations.

      • Hatey McHateface says:

        “The Baltic States joined hands across borders before their independence. Did it get them independence? Nah. They got it when The Soviet Union collapsed”

        Sorry, Lorncal, but that’s frankly a bizarre post.

        You’re sending that reply to a regular who has spent the past 4+ years cheering on poot, who strongly desires the return of the Orc’s ex-colonies back under Orc imperial control, and has only just today been cheering on Orc sabre rattling in the direction of the Baltic States.

        You regularly write on here about your belief we need to be less trusting of those who present a smiling face.

        You need to put Geri top of that list.

    • Lorncal says:

      James Che: your insults are just silly and I won’t rise to them. Just because Westminster says or does something does not mean that what it says or does is legally enforceable. I have said many times that Westminster acts in an ultra vires fashion towards Scotland on too many occasions to count. Just because we are too dumb to argue the toss does not mean that they are right or that a Treaty does not exist. Crawford and Boyle tried that nonsense on before the referendum, stating that Scotland had been subsumed. No, Scotland accepted all the impositions on its rights after 1707. Scotland accepted their argument which was based on a wholly false premise. Most of our ills are down to our not having the cojones to stand up to Westminster.

      The English parliament ceased to exist, too, but the English liked/like to pretend that it didn’t/doesn’t, and because so many functions of the Union were already embedded in the English parliament – don’t blame me, blame the Scottish nobility who agreed to it – they carried them on down there, in London. Queen Anne’s speeches show categorically that both parliaments ceased to exist and that a Union was formed. The very fact that foreign ambassadors were invited to the opening of the first British parliament of the UK is proof that it was a political affair in international law. Ambassadors are not invited to just any old knees-up. I recommend you read Walker and Campbell (profs. at Glasgow and Liverpool respectively) and their answers to Crawford and Boyle – the only Scottish legal academics to do so, as far as I am aware. By the way, as I said earlier, I undertook research (just for the enjoyment of it) from both the legal and the political poles and found that they converged.

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      • Alf Baird says:

        “the only Scottish legal academics to do so” ?

        Here is an alternative learned perspective on Scotland’s colonial reality, presented where it matters, at the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva:

        link to youtube.com

      • Hatey McHateface says:

        “presented where it matters”

        Naw.

        It was presented where it matters, at ballot boxes the length and breadth of Scotland, earlier this month.

        It bombed. Sank without trace. Turned up its toes.

      • Lorncal says:

        Alf: Professor Robert Black did not challenge Crawford and Boyle as far as I am aware. If he did, then I am wrong and will accept that I am. His opinion and interpretation of the Treaty in 1707 is another, but there is no definitive, accepted interpretation that outweighs all others. I have the greatest respect for him and for his interpretation, but it is just one of several. I’m not saying don’t go to the UN on being a de facto colony, but be prepared for that to fail.

        What did Scotland do, then, in 1707? Were the (Scottish) Treaty documents, drawn up by jurists from Scotland and lodged by the Commissioners of Queen Anne, acting in her capacity as Monarch of BOTH Scotland and England, playacting? What did they sign? Why did they sign? Yes, the Scottish nobility and burgesses might have felt that they were being threatened by England’s armed forces, but they could still have refused the Union even if we were then invaded. How many times before then had England invaded us, and we them? We walked into that Treaty with our eyes open – at least, the Scottish parliamentarians did, and many of them wanted recompense for Darien – because we must have known that Perfidious Albion would try and undermine us.

        The country was not bankrupt, but many of the nobility were or were close to ruin after Darien. Scotland, as a nation, did not bankroll Darien, but individuals did. It is to these individuals that we have to look to see how the nobility (most of it) the burgesses (looking to expand trade) and the middle class intelligentsia (full of political Unionists) urged Union with England. The common people rioted against it, as they did in England, where the Union was no more popular than in Scotland.

        The British parliament’s English members (outnumbering the Scots where the population was much smaller) immediately set about changing the Treaty terms, notably removing the Scottish Civil Court of Last Appeal to the Lords at the earliest opportunity so that opposition to the new laws that were coming down the line would be contained. Although there were rumblings about their heavy-handedness, the Scots did not put up much of an opposition – as per. How do we reconcile the fact that much of the colonial service was run by Scots, generally much better educated than the English at that time? How do we reconcile the fact that many, if not most, of the West Indies overseers were Scots, as we know from the preponderance of Scottish surnames the formerly enslaved black population?

        Yes, Alf, we can make all sorts of noises about our situation, but, in the end, we have to decide whether independence is a good thing or not, and, if we do think it’s a good thing – and I share that belief and I also think it has become an ever more pressing necessity -then we are going to have to stand up to Westminster and Whitehall. She are going to have to recruit a panel of our best constitutional lawyers, international lawyers and public lawyers and let them loose on the Treaty and on Hansard, the CoR and all other relevant documents and have them cross-reference every law that Westminster has passed in relation to Scotland to work out whether it was legal or ultra vires.

        In the end, that much-maligned Treaty might be the best friend we have if we can show that England has been acting ultra vires since 1707. That would be more than enough to have it resiled in international law. Meantime, we need to persuade the Scottish population to vote for independence in sufficient numbers and declare UDI. No more referendums. They are instruments of Westminster and, as such, open to interference. Reach, say 55% YES, and declare UDI. Then approach the UN to have the Treaty resiled. By the way, there is British law, as well as Scottish law and English law, and it applies to both jurisdictions. The original 2004 GRA (Gender Recognition Act) is one such British law, which is why the Secretary of State could step in and quash the Scottish parliament’s GRRB. It would have affected England as well as Scotland and could, legally, be challenged and changed only in Westminster.

      • Hatey McHateface says:

        Knock out post, Lorncal.

        A settled, consistent, serious majority in Scotland in favour of Independence cannot be denied.

        And would not be denied, either.

        There would certainly be foot dragging, on both sides, of the sort we saw over Brexit, because no politicians want the extra work, or the loss of a “higher” authority they can blame for all that goes wrong.

        Whether it’s WM blaming Brussels, or HR blaming WM.

        But, if we’re settled, consistent and serious, like with Brexit, the politicians will eventually have to come around.

  47. Onlooker says:

    ‘Q’ is a fake, lying, fraud-perpetrating rich spoiled brat? Colour me SHOCKED. Get the bastard out of Holyrood NOW.

    link to thetimes.com

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  48. Old John says:

    “He has the face of Heinrich Himmler,but without the warm personality.”
    Pant pissingly funny and frighteningly prescient and one and the same time.
    I’d feel much safer in a country administered by the spiv, N Farage, than the bitter little idealogue P Harvey.

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    • diabloandco on The Ever-Changing Lie: “I think you mean ‘reparation’rather than ‘retribution’ I will be happy to see retribution on all concerned.Jun 9, 20:57
    • 100%Yes on The Ever-Changing Lie: “News just in!! Its official all form of communication has been dealt with by a Leprechaun and its through the…Jun 9, 20:46
    • Saffron Robe on The Ever-Changing Lie: “Quite so, Alf. As Steve Biko said, “The most potent weapon of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed.”Jun 9, 20:35
    • Hatey McHateface on The Ever-Changing Lie: “Any accountants reading? Perhaps you could work out the compound interest that would have accrued if the money had really…Jun 9, 19:39
    • Chas on The Ever-Changing Lie: “Nobody writes as much shite as you Alfie Boy. What a talent you have!Jun 9, 19:38
    • Insider on The Ever-Changing Lie: “Alf says…. “A key impact of the pathology associated with colonial oppression, the ‘colonial mindset’, is regarded as ‘a disease…Jun 9, 19:36
    • Hatey McHateface on The Ever-Changing Lie: “One of history’s most often repeated mis-quotes. He was, of course, referring to Sunlight soap, invented in 1884. In 1918,…Jun 9, 19:28
    • Dan on The Ever-Changing Lie: “I think either would have a fair to middling better chance of telling us, rather than our own Crown office…Jun 9, 19:27
    • Mark Beggan on The Ever-Changing Lie: “The Left wing mindset begins with a lack of personal hygiene. An uncomfortable urge to stick your nose into everything…Jun 9, 19:17
    • Ex President Xiden on The Ever-Changing Lie: “There is more than that missing since Murrel started his thievery before the ‘ring fenced’ donations were taken in.Jun 9, 19:14
    • Hatey McHateface on The Ever-Changing Lie: “Prior to colonisation, thousands of Scots women practiced witchcraft. At least, thousands of Scots women were dispatched in the most…Jun 9, 19:04
    • BigJay on The Ever-Changing Lie: “I’ve just been reading about Louis D. Brandeis (1856-1941). What a fascinating life he led. Who, you may ask? Well,…Jun 9, 19:04
    • Mark Beggan on The Ever-Changing Lie: “You need to refer to fanny the financial commissarJun 9, 19:00
    • Andy Wiltshire on The Ever-Changing Lie: “Because they could.Jun 9, 18:21
    • Oneliner on The Ever-Changing Lie: “I’m fairly sure there would have been some parochial rape / murder / pillage on the Viking model. Although ‘hung;…Jun 9, 18:09
    • Hatey McHateface on The Massive Face Of Truth: “Well, well, YL, you’ve surprised me again. First, for not knowing it’s a stick of rock. Second, for not having…Jun 9, 18:03
    • crazycat on The Ever-Changing Lie: “They can identify them; when I sent them 2 reference numbers for donations I made in 2017, they knew that…Jun 9, 17:56
    • Hatey McHateface on The Massive Face Of Truth: “Does he say what kind of vehicle? Surely the campervan will be coming up at auction soon.Jun 9, 17:50
    • Hatey McHateface on The Ever-Changing Lie: “Who’s best to tell us where the missing money is, then, Alf? Cesaire, or Memmi?Jun 9, 17:47
    • John Cleary on The Ever-Changing Lie: “And that is why you will never get her. It’s a protection racket. The racket collapses when it fails to…Jun 9, 17:45
    • Sven on The Ever-Changing Lie: “None which we could conveniently blame on others.Jun 9, 17:40
    • robertkknight on The Ever-Changing Lie: “For the sake of shits’n’giggles… Let us look at what that “quote” says… “We’ll use the money for the purpose…Jun 9, 17:39
    • agentx on The Ever-Changing Lie: “Was there no crime in Scotland before colonisation?Jun 9, 17:20
    • Alf Baird on The Ever-Changing Lie: “The psychodynamics of Scottish independence would seem important here, not least because colonialism ‘is based on psychology’ (Cesaire). A key…Jun 9, 17:02
    • Glenn Boyd on The Ever-Changing Lie: “Really, they should have stuck to the Father Ted Defence: “Now Dougal, the money was just resting in my account!”Jun 9, 16:27
    • Lynne on The Ever-Changing Lie: “Tied up in vehicles, cruet sets & other fancy goods, maybe…Jun 9, 16:18
    • Iain More on The Ever-Changing Lie: “I wont be moving on until Nicola MI6 Sturgeon isin a cellJun 9, 16:08
    • lothianlad on The Ever-Changing Lie: “Well done for holding them to account Stu!! Without you, they would get away with this fully. Now they are…Jun 9, 15:40
    • Anthony Little on The Ever-Changing Lie: “Indeed. It’s a question our “investigative” MSM seems to have overlooked. Online I’m getting SNP members simply wanting to “move…Jun 9, 15:37
    • agentx on The Ever-Changing Lie: “Are the Electoral Commission going to publish that all the accounts submitted from 2010-2022 are fraudulent and insist that the…Jun 9, 15:29
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