(And even that view is conditional on whether you consider Scottish independence the most important political goal of your life. If it’s more important to you to be out of the EU than out of the UK then clearly you’ll be voting Leave and there’s nothing we could say that would change your mind.)
But what if you happen to be a supporter of Scottish independence who DOESN’T live in Scotland? What then?
Last month Scotland on Sunday published some findings from a poll covering, among other things, backing for Trident and for a second independence referendum in the event of a Brexit vote.
We didn’t think much about it until a reader told us that Labour MSP Jackie Baillie had trumpeted the Trident result – a wafer-thin 43-42 majority in favour – in her column in the Helensburgh Advertiser. We were curious to see the finer details and set about finding the full data tables for the poll, which was conducted by ICM.
(Under British Polling Council rules, pollsters have to release full data within 48 hours of any headline findings being made public.)
There’s been a lot of chat on social media recently commenting on what seems to be a rather low-key approach to the Tory election fraud story.
Despite having the potential to cast the result of the UK general election into doubt, with dozens of Tory MPs under suspicion of being elected illegally, press coverage – particularly on the BBC – has been noticeably thin on the ground compared to, say, the days and weeks of sustained, new-content-free reporting on Michelle Thomson’s business affairs or Stewart Hosie and Angus MacNeil’s love lives.
(We learned very recently, of course, that the police still haven’t even spoken to Ms Thomson, over eight months after the allegations came to light.)
But even we were startled by this:
Yes, if you type “Tory election fraud”into the BBC website, the top result is for some unfathomable reason an article about Hosie and MacNeil, who are neither Tories nor under investigation for any kind of fraud.
Indeed, the current Tory election fraud story is nowhere to be found at all – the next most recent item on the page is from 2012 and about the Liberal Democrats.
We’ll leave readers to draw their own conclusions.
This evening’s Question Time saw one of the most incident-packed passages on the show in recent memory. From left to right onscreen the panellists were Paul Marshall (hedge fund manager, head of a chain of academy schools and co-author of the Lib Dems’ infamous “Orange Book”), Alex Salmond, Tory minister Greg Clark, Labour’s shadow home secretary Andy Burnham and right-wing think-tanker Jill Kirby.
Young Lochinvar on Believers In The Ruins: “HMcH @ 2.11 Sorry, but that is as disingenuous an argument as it was when first put about by Unionists.…” Aug 15, 00:59
Oneliner on Believers In The Ruins: “At least 1 of the 56,675 was schooled in covert surveillance.” Aug 14, 23:26
aLurker on Believers In The Ruins: “@sam “Royal Commission on Scottish Affairs 1952-1954 Report.” https://openlibrary.org/books/OL21768224M/Royal_Commission_on_Scottish_Affairs_1952-1954_Report.” Aug 14, 21:56
Chas on Believers In The Ruins: “I will ask again Alf, who would you replace the dozen or so hapless SNP minosters with following Independence. Some…” Aug 14, 21:36
Confused on Believers In The Ruins: “every nite is bonfire night in the g4z4 strip; why oh why did those people build their houses within the…” Aug 14, 21:03
Confused on Believers In The Ruins: “main will one day have to admit to the undeniable logic of every ANGLO subhuman removed en-masse from the blessed…” Aug 14, 21:02
agentx on Believers In The Ruins: ““The former University of Cambridge professor at the centre of a plagiarism row has been found dead. Jason Arday was…” Aug 14, 20:57
sam on Believers In The Ruins: “It’s a reply to your post- “Aidan says: 14 August, 2026 at 11:09 am This was considered by the UN…” Aug 14, 20:53
sam on Believers In The Ruins: “Turabdin, Below you see the reply from Wee Johnny Main. It is a good example of coat trailing, which is…” Aug 14, 20:41
Southernbystander on Believers In The Ruins: “Totally inventing a scenario and then a reaction to it by the person you want to attack, then castigating him…” Aug 14, 20:32
sam on Believers In The Ruins: “I’m very pleased to find my posts annoy you even though that is not my intention, not least because I…” Aug 14, 20:27
sam on Believers In The Ruins: “Wee johnny Main, Your posts are also repetitively boring, always banging on about immigrants. Scotland has always had immigrants. “Using…” Aug 14, 20:23
Aidan on Believers In The Ruins: “Oh interesting! What UN bodies specifically are taking what action?” Aug 14, 20:22
sam on Believers In The Ruins: “Is “1954” a typo error? Why would the UN be making such a decision then?” Aug 14, 20:03
Xaracen on Believers In The Ruins: “The decision was wrong, because the UK government lied. The UN is in the process of waking up to that…” Aug 14, 19:50
TURABDIN on Believers In The Ruins: “it is not as if the one at westminster is any better, ppe, hs2,to cite but two cases of epic…” Aug 14, 18:16
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Alf Baird on Believers In The Ruins: ““none, of the things delegated to the Scottish Govt in the past decade or more has been a success” True,…” Aug 14, 17:09
Wally Jumblatt on Believers In The Ruins: “I really don’t care if in 1632 or quarter to eight some treaty or law was passed. Since don’t have…” Aug 14, 14:49
Hatey McHateface on Believers In The Ruins: ““Scotland absorbed, annexed, incorporated is actually how the world sees it and many English do also” Aye, TURABDIN, just like…” Aug 14, 14:11
Captain Caveman on Anatomy Of A Grift: ““Plus any attempt to discuss a subject btl just gets relentless trolling from obvious disruptors to the point few can…” Aug 14, 13:46
Captain Caveman on Anatomy Of A Grift: ““trannyism is deadly boring” Yeah, it’s only “deadly boring” if you don’t have a wife, daughters, granddaughters, dear female friends;…” Aug 14, 13:41
TURABDIN on Believers In The Ruins: “Scotland absorbed, annexed, incorporated is actually how the world sees it and many English do also. A face to face…” Aug 14, 13:40
Hatey McHateface on Anatomy Of A Grift: “As always, it needs to be pointed out that the alternative to the NHS needn’t be an “American style” system.…” Aug 14, 13:25
Confused on Believers In The Ruins: “that was an odd segue into footy about halfway; don’t knock it, it gives joy to many people www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrgJ_-stYHw anyway,…” Aug 14, 12:51
Confused on Anatomy Of A Grift: “trannyism is deadly boring and only becomes interesting once you realise what it is all connected to; it is not…” Aug 14, 12:47