Off-topic
Posted on
January 02, 1968 by
Rev. Stuart Campbell
For off-topic chat. Duh.
Wings Over Scotland is a (mainly) Scottish political media digest and monitor, which also offers its own commentary. (More)
re. the cult of gender ideology and the misappropriation of “woman” as a sex class. Opening the sex class to all comers undermines the semiotic significance of “women” and unsettles and weakens the normative foundations of human rights. Space needs to be made for non-binary identities, so why not create a third “diverse” sex class, rather than stealing the identity and normative value of womanhood? Oh yeah, misogyny and stuff.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/3810250?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
Normative and Theoretical Foundations of Human Rights
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263224112_Normative_and_Theoretical_Foundations_of_Human_Rights
NORMATIVE EXPANSION OF THE RIGHT TO HEALTH AND THE PROLIFERATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS
https://cdn1.sph.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/580/2016/09/Marks-Normative-Exansion-of-RTH-GWILR-2016.pdf
Good morning, Cameron.
Bob Marley: “Get up, stand up”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F69PBQ4ZyNw
🙂
Though I’m just getting warmed-up, I appreciate social science isn’t to everyone’s taste. I’ll make a conscious effort to keep a hud of myself, MK. I just need to get this out the way first. 😉
https://social-epistemology.com/2013/07/12/how-is-hermeneutical-injustice-related-to-white-ignorance-reply-to-jose-medinas-hermeneutical-injustice-and-polyphonic-contextualism-social-silences-and-shared-he/
The Routledge Handbook of Epistemic Injustice
https://philpapers.org/rec/KIDTRH
Distinguishing Two Dimensions of Uncertainty
https://www.stat.berkeley.edu/~aldous/157/Papers/Fox_Ulkumen.pdf
Smallaxe
Morning mate.
Violent Femmes – Do You Really Want to Hurt Me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmsj67QpYZI
Free: “Alright Now”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YExuLkIaQ7U&ab_channel=wilderthewildest
Sorry peeps, I am being conscious but I’m also aware there will be folk who didn’t understand what I meant by “Opening the sex class to all comers undermines the semiotic significance of “women” and unsettles and weakens the normative foundations of human rights.” The thing is, it’s rather difficult to navigate life when meaning is arbitrary. As I might have mentioned, it all boils down to semiotics, mk.
http://kognitywistyka.umcs.lublin.pl/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Zlatev2009-CS.pdf
TWO SEMIOTIC SHIFTS IN THE PHILOSOPHY OF NORMS: MEANING
SHIFT AND REFERENT SHIFT
http://www.fupress.net/index.php/pam/article/viewFile/22425/20478
Basic Tasks of Cultural Semiotics
http://faculty.georgetown.edu/irvinem/theory/Posner-basictasksofculturalsemiotics.pdf
The Jolly Brothers – Conscious Man / Dub
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkVlQsqXrfk
Here’s one for Kristina Harrison. Thank you times a gazilion, for your solidarity in fighting against an emergent gender dystopia.
Faithless – We Come 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65EfTFUFDwI
Smallaxe at 10.39 am
The number with the most radio play ever.
Here’s a bit of social science in the hope of informing the gender ideology debate.
https://www.cairn.info/revue-internationale-de-philosophie-2012-1-page-55.htm
Equality and Political Philosophy
http://politics.oxfordre.com/view/10.1093/acrefore/9780190228637.001.0001/acrefore-9780190228637-e-88
Gender & Political Philosophy
https://www.gendersexuality.northwestern.edu/courses/descriptions/233-gender-political-philosophy.html
re. Dr. Adrian Harrop. If he’s a medical practitioner, why is his license not under review? His judgement can not be considered sound, IMHO, as he’s clearly prejudiced against the rights of biological women.
The worthy aims of Gender Ideology can not justify the destruction of semiotic meaning and reason (see women-who-are-not-transwomen). Without normative value, individuals have no rights and very limited agency to change their circumstances. This is how totalitarianism operates.
Sex is not the same as gender!
https://medium.com/@kathleenstock/academic-philosophy-and-the-uk-gender-recognition-act-6179b315b9dd
http://www.ibiblio.org/nmediac/winter2004/matusitz.html
http://journals.univ-danubius.ro/index.php/communication/article/download/768/700
“Royalty”
If we have to refer to them in Scotland, why are they not given their Scottish titles in the media and not their English ones?
Unlike Dr. Adrian Harrop, my concern is for the well-being of the wider community, not minority interests.
https://philpapers.org/rec/OZTTNT
Gender and Gender Terms
https://elizabethbarnesphilosophy.weebly.com/uploads/3/8/1/0/38105685/gender_and_gender_terms__revision_.pdf
“When Tables Speak”: On the Existence of Trans Philosophy (guest post by Talia Mae Bettcher)
http://dailynous.com/2018/05/30/tables-speak-existence-trans-philosophy-guest-talia-mae-bettcher/
Thought I’d just put this up again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WulAWn_N_O0
And I enjoyed this comment
“Bravo pour cette belle interprétation ! Toujours émouvant à écouter… Vive L’Ecosse, vive la France et merde aux anglois !”
And a very good thought it was too.
Vive, L’ancienne alliance!
Reading through main thread ( one with drawing of Davidson & Mundell)….cannae help but think the uncanny similarity in ranting style and content between this character collie and yon Danny that used to post….same person or twins ?
Just received my shiney new YES flags via AyeMail.
More important, 1M leaflets along with YES packs are ready to hit the streets
Well done to Lindsey Bruce and the Indy Kits For YES team
It’s coming yet fa’ a’ that!
@Clapper57
“same person or twins?”
Would be the fourth name he’s had then, so maybe. Do we really care? An arsehole is an arsehole for ah that lol.
Oklahoma: “Oh What a Beautiful Morning” (Hugh Jackman)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNEUtN21cuU
I wish some on the M/T would just…
“Simmer Down”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU70-rP88ew
Relax mi gud people, nuh let things mek yuh screw, it bad fi di digestion an yuh mental health.
😎
Dave McEwan Hill says:
15 October, 2018 at 11:11 pm
Smallaxe at 10.39 am
“The number with the most radio play ever.”
Sorry, Dave, I’ve just seen your comment above. Thanks’, for that, it’s something that I wasn’t aware of. 🙂
Rory Gallagher: “Around & Around” (with Frankie Miller)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfCzG3h_F4M
re. Sir Paul Beresford MP not understanding David Linden MP. I’m afraid to say that Mr. Liden’s diction was at fault, IMHO. He needs to slow his speach down, though I think the Tory could have made more of an effort to understand.
Your Speaking Voice – How Good Diction Helps
https://hobbylark.com/performing-arts/How-to-Clean-Up-Your-Diction-Starting-Now
Well, I thought “Totally Wired” was too obvious.
The Fall – The Man Whose Head Expanded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XvdgeXuyPs
Pat Robertson and right-wing evangelical Christians, really are the spawn of Satan.
The Religious Right in America
http://religion.oxfordre.com/view/10.1093/acrefore/9780199340378.001.0001/acrefore-9780199340378-e-97
For irreligious evangelicals, Christianity is about politics—not God
https://qz.com/1122117/what-does-it-mean-to-be-evangelical-how-the-right-wing-hijacked-christian-identity/
Why I Left the Right: How Studying Religion Made Me a Liberal
https://medium.com/@susiemeister/why-i-left-the-right-how-studying-religion-made-me-a-liberal-177b804c21f1
re. Owen Jones. Smug, know-nothing, prick, IMHO. Displays a complete lack of understand re. the normative foundations of human rights. A useful idiot.
@Owen Jones
Want to stop being a woke prick?
https://blog.apaonline.org/2016/02/12/gender-is-the-philosophical-issue-of-our-age/
Plato on Gender: Three Different Views
http://www.yorku.ca/horowitz/courses/lectures/07_plato_gender.html
Feminist Political Thought
http://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/view/document/obo-9780199756223/obo-9780199756223-0234.xml
Perhaps Owen Jones can get together with Severin Carrel, to discus the semiotics of gender? After all, Severin is the “Semiotic Kid”.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1639662
Emerging genders: semiotic agency and the performance of gender among genderqueer individuals
https://journals.equinoxpub.com/index.php/GL/article/view/27552
Gender Semiotics and the 21st Century Feminist Utopia: Implications on National Security and Socio-cultural Development
http://www.academypublication.com/issues/past/tpls/vol04/01/03.pdf
@Owen Jones
Remember censoring me on the Independent’s blog in 2014, because you were loosing the debate? That simply confirmed my suspicions that you’re an anti-democratic prick.
Do Clothes Make the Woman?: Gender, Performance Theory, and Lesbian Eroticism
https://www.utexaspressjournals.org/doi/pdf/10.5555/gen.1993.17.1
Please stop using the term “Tory” to describe Conservatives. Conservatives are [c]onservative, Tories are fervent British nationalists and only a hop, skip and jump away from full-on fascists. They don’t like Catholics either.
What to call Britain’s Conservative party
https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2017/06/01/what-to-call-britains-conservative-party
Survey of Britain’s party members reveals glaring contrasts between Tories and other parties
https://www.qmul.ac.uk/media/news/2017/hss/survey-of-britains-party-members-reveals-glaring-contrasts-between-tories-and-other-parties.html
Members only: views of the Conservative Party’s rank-and-file
https://www.psa.ac.uk/insight-plus/members-only-views-conservative-party%E2%80%99s-rank-and-file
So in four days and 30 comments Cam bb has posted 18 yet he does not want to hog?
Now fair enough, this is where these subjects should be expressed and i have no problem with that.
Just please keep it off the main site?
By the way Cam sorry i made it personal the other night….other forces etc.
@ Liz. Ty and I will.
@ Sma. I couldn’t possibly trouble you with my shite mate. You have more than enough to be dealing with.
@Smithie. Gi yirsel peace. Who made you the gaffer?
CamB is part of the fixtures and fittings around here and if he wants to make a point on the MT or OT then who are you to tell him otherwise?
I may not understand everything he posts but, I do enjoy reading it and furthering my own knowledge. I certainly don’t recall you posting anything that made me sit up and pay attention in quite the same way.
smithie
You have made this personal, so would you like to meet up? I’m in Dundee.
smithie
That’s not an invitation to a square go, btw, simply an offer to meet face-to-face.
Wings get-together doon the toon, iye?
8=)
@Owen Jones
There is no moral justification for your stance on self-identification. What on earth made a know-nothing such as yourself, think they have the justification to undermine language, reason and the basis of human rights? Oh yeah, misogyny, far-left ideology and stuff.
http://tampub.uta.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/81277/gradu04062.pdf
Drivers of change in gender norms
An annotated bibliography
https://www.odi.org/sites/odi.org.uk/files/odi-assets/publications-opinion-files/9184.pdf
1-800 GIRLS – Just Cause
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWtX0Lsmfn0
@Owen Jones
Just in case you haven’t got the message yet and insist on being a woke prick.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/feminism-gender/
@Owen Jones
Here’s some normative legal theory you might want to clue yourself up on, though that might lead you to questioning you personal beliefs. Is it in you to allow your ethical self to rise above your ideological self? Are you a reflexive human being or simply the facade of white male entitlement?
http://lsolum.typepad.com/legaltheory/normative_legal_theory/
Feminist Philosophy of Law
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/feminism-law/
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/942e/f6d87f5581df994bd35ea1e04fd570c5ac7b.pdf
@Owen Jones
Do you think it equitable that trans-women misapropriate the sex-class of “woman”?
http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTWDR2012/Resources/7778105-1299699968583/7786210-1322671773271/Chiongson-law-and-justice.pdf
smithie,
Look up my name if you want to find out who ‘hogs’ Off Topic, I think my friend Cameron’s comments will come a poor second to my inane drivelling and copious amounts of music played, just go back a page and this will become very apparent to you.
We all have our different ways of expressing ourselves, here and on the M/Thread, so if anyone doesn’t like a certain person’s comments then it’s easily enough remedied by scrolling on past and moving on to something that does interest them.
Please confine any complaints you may have about Cameron to the main thread if you wish to do so as O/T is generally used by others to pass messages, chat and play music or, as in all cases, post whatever we feel like. We’re an inclusive and mixed bunch of punters here on O/T and it’s an extremely rare occasion to have anyone complain about other persons posts/comments.
I hope you have an enjoyable and Peaceful day, smithie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHYYNuk2CnU
Good afternoon, William Wallace, CameronB and Brian Doonthetoon. 🙂
Wull, I meant what I said, my friend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qde5NMy7WTU
Afternoon Smallaxe.
Nina Simone – Feeling Good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfJRX-8SXOs
re. compelling arguments against Brexit. From a normative legal theory perspective, Brexit is a bit dodgy, mk. Remember, Brexit was funded by “dark money” and articulates English cultural exceptionalism. It also strips Scottish residents of their human rights.
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2018/03/29/brexit-demonstrates-the-need-for-a-normative-theory-of-political-disintegration/
The UK’s Sovereignty Situation: Brexit, Bewilderment and Beyond?…
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09615768.2016.1250465
Leaving the EU? The Legal Impact of “Brexit” on the United Kingdom
https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/Documents/college-artslaw/law/iel/leaving-EU-legal-impact-brexit-gee-rubini-trybus.pdf
Hi just jumping in to say hi to all the regulars in here. And it’s so good to see you posting again Smallaxe my friend. All the best to all of you. Will be back posting soon. ? ? ???????
From a Constitutional Legal Theory perspective, Brexit doesn’t appear any less dodgy. Westminster’s desire to ignore Scotland’s popular sovereignty is an act of despotism, IMHO. It also relegates Scots law to an obsolite afterthought.
What the fuck is UK constitutional law when it is at home, other than old school imperialism?
https://consoc.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Brexit-and-our-unprotected-constitution-web.pdf
Stephen Tierney: Was the Brexit Referendum Democratic?
https://ukconstitutionallaw.org/2016/07/25/stephen-tierney-was-the-brexit-referendum-democratic/
The UK Constitution After Miller: Brexit and Beyond
https://publiclawforeveryone.com/2018/07/31/now-published-the-uk-constitution-after-miller-brexit-and-beyond/
Early Clover & The Georgia Soul Drifters – Freedom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFyDGpDD0NU
Hi Michael,
Good to hear from you. I hope that you’re keeping okay. Don’t leave your return to O/T too long, you and your excellent choice of music are badly missed, my friend.
🙂
Chicago: “I’m a Man”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPZUgfOqAdg
re. independence qualifying as a philosophical belief. From a Normative Legal Theory perspective, self-ditermination is one of the fundamental principle underpinning the international rule of law. As such, self-determination has enormousness normative significance.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.3402/egp.v8.24446
Political Self-Determination and the Normative Significance of Territorial Boundaries
https://seis.bristol.ac.uk/~plcdib/territory/papers/banai_selfdetermination.pdf
A Normative Theory of International Law Based on New Natural Law Theory
http://etheses.lse.ac.uk/999/1/Searl_A_Normative_Theory_of_International_Law_Based_on_New_Natural_Law_Theory.pdf
From the perspective of Social and Political Philosophy, self-determination is equally a fundamental human right.
https://www.mq.edu.au/about_us/faculties_and_departments/faculty_of_arts/mhpir/staff/staff-politics_and_international_relations/john_kilcullen/self-determination_and_the_right_to_establish_a_government/
A Critical Analysis of the Self-determination of Peoples: A Cosmopolitan Perspective
http://www.danielearchibugi.org/downloads/papers/2017/11/Archibugi-A-Critical-Analysis-of-the-Self-determination-of-Peoples.pdf
National Self-Determination
https://www.biu.ac.il/law/cjdl/doc/Margalir%20Raz%20-%20National%20Self-determination.pdf
Ann-Margret – I Ain’t Gonna Be Your Fool No More
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTcXpNxRZ-Y
Positivism is old school science. The New Classical Natural Law Theory aims to remove positivism from legal doctrine.
What is New Classical Natural Law Theory?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnpnKQE_1G0
The law generally lags behind social change. As such, the legal interpretation of social morality often does not meet social expectations.
Jurisprudence – Natural Law
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaHHGv4VIno
I’ll see your jurisprudence, Cameron and raise you a…;
“Dear Prudence” Alanis Morrisette;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VHMHAMfqgA
😉
From the perspective of International Relations Theory, self-determination is also viewed as a fundamental human right, though there is uncertainty as to how this right should be implemented. MK. 🙂
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/review-of-international-studies/article/right-to-selfdetermination-in-international-politics-six-theories-in-search-of-a-policy/DEB90380323721647A5EE229CE066EA3
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/255172600_Self-Determination_Identity_and_International_Relations
http://www.oxfordhandbooks.com/view/10.1093/oxfordhb/9780199209194.001.0001/oxfordhb-9780199209194-e-27
P.S. Does a belief in the principle of universal human rights and the international rule of law, count as a philosophy? Does England’s embrace of ethnic nationalism also count as a philosophy?
Smallaxe
I’ll see you and raise you a..; 😉
Chaka Khan – Like Sugar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RecY5iZn6B0
Cameron, I’ll see your ‘Like Sugar’ and raise you…
“Sugar Pie Honey Bunch” – Dj Ko Remix;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoMHStu41ks
🙂
Smallxe
Back at you.
Sugar Pie Desanto – Rock Me Baby
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pagqJxGR33I
Back at you, Cameron, only double:
The Archies – “Sugar, Sugar” (remix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geJJ-nI4fYk
Smallaxe
You win. 😉
Let’s call it a draw, Cameron.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6frs86Szk_0
🙂
re. Bobby Gillespie on This Week. Britain’s political class and the media minions appear to have forgotten the principles of moral social conduct, a.k.a. the foundational role of a Social Contract.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11158-017-9389-7
Individualism vs. Collectivism: Our Future, Our Choice
https://www.theobjectivestandard.com/issues/2012-spring/individualism-collectivism/
What is the Objectivist View of Law and Government (Politics)?
https://atlassociety.org/objectivism/atlas-university/what-is-objectivism/objectivism-101-blog/3364-what-is-the-objectivist-view-of-law-and-government-politics
Smallaxe 🙂
🙂
@Kevin Hague
Fascism is so twentieth century, you spanner? Here’s a Social and Political Philosophy view of what you stand against. Dick head.
http://www.oxfordscholarship.com/view/10.1093/0198293844.001.0001/acprof-9780198293842-chapter-9
@Kevin Hague
Do you really oppose the spirit of Enlightenment, fannybaz?
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/kant-social-political/
http://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/view/document/obo-9780199743292/obo-9780199743292-0125.xml
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/social-philosophy-and-policy/article/decolonization-and-selfdetermination/A5E1F0CE272476C91C15E1BB82CF4A4F
@Kevin Hague
Your are a British nationalist, a state of being that opposes patriotism to Scotland. My advice to you is to fuck right off or hud you whist, as your loyaty is to Queen and country, i.e. England, not to the people of Scotland.
http://www.oxfordhandbooks.com/view/10.1093/oxfordhb/9780199601998.001.0001/oxfordhb-9780199601998-e-3
What’s the difference between patriotism and nationalism?
https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/39577/whats-the-difference-between-patriotism-and-nationalism
Cosmopolitan Patriotism in J. S. Mill’s Political Thought and Activism
https://journals.openedition.org/etudes-benthamiennes/188
@Kevin Hague
Are you a thinking, reflexive, human being or a slave to One Nation ideology? Do you think Brexit articulates ethical or illiberal values, in relation to Scotland’s vote to Remain? Here’s some Moral and Political Philosophy that might help you decide.
https://philpapers.org/rec/SCHBAA-4
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228465536_The_moral_psychology_of_Europeanness_Diversified_horizontal_affectivity
https://watermark.silverchair.com/mom037.pdf?token=AQECAHi208BE49Ooan9kkhW_Ercy7Dm3ZL_9Cf3qfKAc485ysgAAAhMwggIPBgkqhkiG9w0BBwagggIAMIIB_AIBADCCAfUGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAeBglghkgBZQMEAS4wEQQMiauhJDV6metm7657AgEQgIIBxrllMxyiKJYpc4ML0M6FFQs0hRfdmlig7EbuwVED6OlslxiPe06gOAlBJIEA-qLeoKfpSO8VHfNOs611yMgAWAerWRKuTBsSYtZzhESlUwIuIcn_rviJ6b4SBCCUGpKkCSbpF6ey64qtwjZZFJVhzCmdsSIM8y0ZAOppG6QZCP7LFzWdyrYi01r6_BvLGW0IrTi6Ux3UTudTDMVt4hykSxXMaLc2Ql5he5n2LpuIUlvuaNP6RLPoWIDnJ7rQ7pKxm7SAxJMOtiLpfB1tLHRANwVigrr-6ZfyeOHkJf8_i1DnhILNoXdKcD1sR8_H47W3c2x7vKPfQmAEFIjEv77uqdN94RtSCYdksvl6-v7ijSPsrfkZgGubn25Wuo_f3p1S_6UPSspclNri6hHCBfV3E0kizJ72O7yzemlb3MVBuFrABuWFEDVsL-e_Eouy3HDuj3RDy-XQr3EjUi_3YYi-VWi5QxWmncA07m0bWf6P1uKF3JPE6TCsfpN9z3uFcxFSYxudv3EH58qtLg_z6A17F6TrW4EZNRGAvi_aBh8zxtQn_gcsaIKKx6OtzAANOifLhNmVQCF03_kSE-BrOE-ipzK5vVim1qU
@Kevin Hague
Ever hear of post-colonial theory?
http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/96306/5/05_chapter%201.pdf
https://eprints.soas.ac.uk/14839/1/Chapter_06_-_The_Democratic_Predicament.pdf
Aretha Franklin – Think
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vet6AHmq3_s
I feel the need to defend the social sciences, again, so here’s a social science view of Intersectionality.
https://www.e-ir.info/2013/11/01/the-significance-of-intersectionality-for-feminist-political-theory/
INTERSECTIONALITY AND SOCIAL EXPLANATION IN SOCIAL SCIENCE RESEARCH
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/du-bois-review-social-science-research-on-race/article/intersectionality-and-social-explanation-in-social-science-research/3B3A8933C28F4A7877129F57C1BCDF6B
Incorporating intersectionality theory into population health research methodology: Challenges and the potential to advance health equity
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0277953614001919
Used to come on here for a bit of crack, it wid terr holes in yer drawers noo!
Right said Fred: “You are my(manky) mate”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsqE1OKQD8E
😉
Wher’s that big turnip Tinto Chiel?
Fred
Science is under attack from both the right and the left wing. What do you want me to do, remain silent?
@Smallaxe: I see myself as more of a tumshie and Mrs Tinto agrees. Did you know she is a Swede?
I’ve been musing, btw.
Ah, Tinto,
I see you sneaked in while I was drinking my dinner. 😉
I was aware that your good lady was a Swede, so much sweeter than a tumshie. Don’t cha know!
Ian Dury & the Blockheads: “Sweet Gene Vincent”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM_q3k4TwpM
@Smallaxe –
Brilliant Dury track there.
🙂
Have had a riff playing endlessly in ma big heid since last week and couldn’t pinpoint what it was. It’s the bass line from this:
Gil Scott-Heron, ‘Lady Day & John Coltrane’ –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aRNUsmfeck
On Twitter I follow a dude called David Taylor (@taylordauthor) – in the queue at Lidl today I burst out laughing upon remembering a tweet he wrote in the wake of all that shite about a ‘black panther’ lepping around the Drongan area. Can’t locate the original tweet, but he said he spotted what he thought was a kangaroo in an Ayrshire field but it turned out to be a greyhound having a shite.
😉
Gender self-ID is bad, mk. It serves to undermines the place of women in society, in addition to undoing the social empowerment of women (biological and trans). Gender self-ID inevitably articulates misogyny.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/229507764_The_Role_of_Gender_Identification_in_Social_Dominance_Orientation_Mediating_or_Moderating_the_Effect_of_Sex1
Social Dominance Theory
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/9780470672532.wbepp253
Cultural and Institutional Determinants of Social Dominance Orientation: A Cross?Cultural Meta?Analysis of 27 Societies
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1467-9221.2012.00884.x
A fabulous cover of the most recorded song of all time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaqljXgG1jw
Sorry peeps but this gender self-ID must be stopped. It threatens the liberty and human right we all notionally posses. It is the thin end of the wedge.
http://www.oxfordscholarship.com/view/10.1093/oso/9780190604981.001.0001/oso-9780190604981
Another cover.
Wilbert Harrison – Kansas City
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHZSMUJypqw
Smallaxe i know you and others post a lot on here and there is nothing wrong with that at all….thats what this page is for after all, but you….shall we say… are normal and just chat away and have fun as is how it should be…… you just say your bit and dont post loads of “stuff”. I did say i regretted getting personal with Cameron and i meant it….i was in the wrong.
Btw William Wallace…you have calmed down a lot on OT and its a pleasure to read your comments now but dont say who made me “gaffer”….thats not what i intended but hey….i can still say what i feel ?…unless i missed a ruling earlier?
smithie
Got a problem with edumacation?
I have a few things to see to over the next few days, can I just say;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jb-DK8elug
Go placidly, folks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdNwa-g_Uu8&t=1s
🙂
smithie
Are you up for a pint and a chat? I’ll be back in Dundee tomorrow.
@ Smallaxe, thems good words kid, in another & distant time I could see U waggin yer heid in a pulpit! Still smiling at Ian’s Drungan marsupial!
Thanks for that song kid. Bests tae the Double Duke!
Though I might do a Glesga version
Ahm gaun tae Glesga city
Glesga city here ah come
Ahm gaun tae Glesga city
Glesga city here ah come
There’s some crazy little burds therr and ah’m gonnie get me wan.
Ah might take the bus, ah might take the tube
But If ah hiv tae walk there ah’ll get tae thon Garscube
Ahm gaun tae Glesga city
Glesga city here ah come
There’s some crazy little burds therr and ah’m gonnie get me wan
Ah’m gonna be standin at the bus stop
Oota that auld Carntyne
Standin at the bus stop
Leaving that auld Carntyne
With ma Coocaddens burdie
An a boatle o’ Eldorado wine
(Drawers right doon by nine ?)
I’m going to Kansas City
Kansas City here I come
I’m going to Kansas City
Kansas City here I come
They got a crazy way of loving there and I’m gonna get me one
I’m gonna be standing on the corner
12th Street and Vine
I’m gonna be standing on the corner
12th Street and Vine
With my Kansas City baby and a bottle of Kansas City wine
Well, I might take a plane; I might take a train
But if I have to walk, I’m going just the same
I’m going to Kansas City
Kansas City here I come
They got some crazy little women there and I’m gonna get me one
@Dave McEwan Hill –
🙂
Great stuff.
Congratulations on the article on MT – certainly set the cat amongst the proverbials and fitting that it hosts the 800,000th reader comment because it’s such an important topic, one which will persist as a ‘problem’ long after we’re independent.
IanB
14 ac and 15 dn both seem certain fits but the end letter of 14 ac ‘d’ doesn’t fit with the first letter of 15 dn ‘o’.
A mistake?
@Chick –
In today’s?
Haven’t even seen it yet. I never do Tuesday’s XW.
😉
yes today’s
Didn’t think it was yours.
14 ac A pull recalled in prize. answer ‘AwArd’
15 dn Lone rider’s surpringly second showing good management.
answer ‘oRdErLinEsS’ anag of lone riders and s.
Thinking the compiler may have misread a hand written ‘d’ for an ‘o’?
On the Unwelcoming Committee thread yesterday I noticed Izzie`s comment at 7.03 comparing Billy Connolly to Robert Burns as the Establishment`s Pet Scot.
I recently read James Barke`s series of books on the life of RB and find this comment very offensive.To compare Connolly to Burns is a total joke.
Burns had to tread a very thin line in concealing his republican politics while retaining his job with the excise to support his wife and large family.
@Ian brotherhood Oct 21st: On a similar theme, I still snigger when I remember, at a time when sightings of “large cats” were often being reported in Devon, my husband who worked in Devon telling me about a client who had an accident on a country road due to a tree blocking the road and “a jaguar leaping out of the branches”.
I naturally thought he was talking about a large member of the cat family so responded appropriately, as I thought, only to see the puzzled look on hubby’s face. It was in fact a Jaguar car that burst through the branches…
Only me. Sorry for taking up so much space re. gender ideology, it’s just that I see the uncritical adoption of it by public institutions, as a serious threat to the philosophy of science and practice. It returns our understanding of language to that of Wittgenstein’s early logical positivism, and removes the potential for experiential verification of theory. As such, gender ideology hollows out the thoughts of JS Mill, Karl Popper, C.S.Peirce and the pragmatic maxim from scientific inquiry.
The meaning of language is not a social construct, in the Wittgenstein sense, it requires experiential verification for the confirmation of meaning. A return to the neo-positivism that dominated science between the wars, would be ideally suited to the totalitarian management of society under a paradigm of authoritarian capitalism.
We need academic philosophers to stand up and defend science. My blt comments are not adequate to the task.
Verificationism: Its History and Prospects
https://searchworks.stanford.edu/view/3086137
re. Steve Bannon on the BBC. When do you think would be the best time to comment? I think I’ve got a cracker. 😉
Ray Charles – (Night time Is) The Right Time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0nTvth1vQo
And there was me thinking Gerry Hassan wasn’t ideologically bound. Party and branch office before nation just won’t cut it as Brexit approaches.
Aretha Franklin – A Deeper Love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7wCrjuTIyo
IanB
FYI
14 ac was ‘award’ and 15 dn was ‘orderliness’
Oops!
Or as Homer might say ‘Do(h)’ 🙂
Chick McGregor
I feel I’m definitely encroaching on your natural stomping ground. Any thoughts on how to go about verifying facts when meaning is dislocated from objective reality?
Owen Jones appears committed to the idea of doing good but I’m not sure he fully appreciates the consequences of his actions. Does his voice count though, what’s his experience of womanhood? Are they not the one’s being asked to share their spaces and cultural significance?
https://philpapers.org/rec/MILUPN-2
@MBallantyneMSP
Ouch, Adam Smith emphasised the relationship between moral assessments in terms of propriety and in terms of merit. Given the number of deaths attributed to DWP policy, I’m not sure if this is a fruitful line of attack. I suppose it’s better than “no surrender” though.
https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/ecco/004894986.0001.000/1:4.2.2?rgn=div3;view=fulltext
@MBallantyneMSP
Community and economic robustness are not best served through neoliberalism and a TINA outlook. Not to mention Brexit, which can be expected to hurt women the most. Your party’s economic quackery has had its day, frankly.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/morality-in-a-natural-world/BA76023DDE90B0B006DE3D982DBAD0FA
Hi Cactus.
Twas you what decided to resurrect dead pages! Are you the Will o’ the Wisp? Stick a comment on a dead page then hightail it out of there?
Ya varmint!
https://wingsoverscotland.com/ship-of-fools/#comment-2402150
8=)
@MBallantyneMSP
I thought you might benefit from some moral instruction, given neoliberalism widens and deepens social polarisation, particularly health inequalities. TINA and trickle-down economics have failed. Your English counterparts have ripped the yoonyawn apart, yet you still allude to moral authority. Your lack of self-awareness is simply stunning.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6334771-the-nature-of-moral-thinking
I’d say MBallantyneMSP’s passion was quite animated and rather revealing. So it’s forwards to full-fat, thoroughly chlorinated, austerity Brexitania then. Right then.
The Undisputed Truth – Smiling Faces Sometimes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GXSHRJYxTQ
I think Scottish Tories for Yes should really reconsider a name change. Just a personal opinion.
The Dramatics – Whatcha See is Whatcha Get
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgG6SU8L-dI
@Sarah –
🙂
I remember a Japanese student asking me to confirm a story he’d heard about the Loch Ness Monster (hugely popular in Japan) which involved Nessie jumping from a tree in front of a busload of tourists and making treatening facial gestures at them before leaping into the Loch.
Naturally, I was more than happy to do so.
re. the deterministic and exclusionary nature of MBallantyne MSPs’ comments and subsequent follow-up. From an anthropological perspective, the ideological position she projects is an extremely unhealthy and inhuman one. Prejudice likes company, so sonbs are often racist, who are often anti-sexual expression, and so on. Social prejudice is largely generated by our so-called ‘elites’, then transmitted through the media, where is undermines social cohesion and the potential for positive social change. One only has to look at England’s attempt to regain a sense of former glory, to see this in action (Brexit).
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/mediapolicyproject/2018/06/11/are-the-media-and-communications-industries-institutionally-racist/
The 12 Item Social and Economic Conservatism Scale (SECS)
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0082131
http://www.psychnet-uk.com/x_new_site/readers_articles/the_old_fashioned_personality.html
Eugenics can’t be un-invented and undeniably influences contemporary bio-ethics, social policy and politics. Exclusion from economic activity also undermines the concept of reproductive rights, as a basic human right. Given the direction of travel that western society appears to be taking, this is rather worrying, in an age of overwhelming right-wing media bias.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(08)61889-9/fulltext
Poverty and Social Exclusion in Britain: Research and Resources
https://www.raggeduniversity.co.uk/2014/09/02/poverty-social-exclusion-britain-research-resources/
https://web.stanford.edu/~mvr2j/sfsu09/extra/Buchanan.pdf
Britain is broken and ignorant Tories, such as MBallantyne, don’t know what to do except blame the poor. I’ve got to worry about this attitude hardening in austerity Brexitania. As does everyone who isn’t stinking rich.
https://policy.bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/poverty-and-social-exclusion-in-the-uk
I’ll admit I’m a bit of a lefty, so here’s a bit of a change in focus, Critical Rationalism and Rational Choice Theory, with a twist. Karl Popper wasn’t a positivist, which is bad, MK.
http://myweb.fsu.edu/adriscoll/Research_files/EPSRFemRC.pdf
The Contrast between Dogmatic and Critical Arguments
http://www.klemens.sav.sk/fiusav/doc/organon/2015/1/9-20.pdf
THE LAW AS JUSTIFICATION: A CRITICAL RATIONALIST ANALYSIS
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/c9b7/f041382403445e4f9eed4dbc54853abb30a2.pdf
As I said, Popper wasn’t a positivist. Positivists are bad, MK.
Popper was not a Positivist: Why Critical Rationalism Could be an Epistemology for Qualitative as well as Quantitative Social Scientific Research
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/323562583_Popper_was_not_a_Positivist_Why_Critical_Rationalism_Could_be_an_Epistemology_for_Qualitative_as_well_as_Quantitative_Social_Scientific_Research
I’m not sure where it’s all coming from, sorry for being such a geek.
Gramatik – Just Jammin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHffJ0qC9Ko
OK, one from a six in one shampoo kind of feminist. Life’s complicated. 🙂
Opa Tsupa – Les deux Guitares
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuFiBjNTB9o
I just watch an economics boffin on the BBC, talking about the likely impact of Brexit. I had to laugh even though the news was dire, as the presenter was totally flummoxed at the lack of positivity from the boffin. Heretic….
Here’s a Critical peek at the economics of Brexit. Remember, all of this upheaval and uncertainty is necessary to salve England’s ongoing identity crises. It has absolutely nothing to with Scotland. Nada. Nothing. None of our bloody business. Just shut up and eat your porridge.
https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/2018%20IfG%20%20Brexit%20impact%20%5Bfinal%20for%20web%5D.pdf
Assessing the economic implications of Brexit
A comprehensive and impartial assessment of the implications of Brexit for economic activity in the UK and the rest of the world.
https://www.oxfordeconomics.com/brexit
THE MACRO-ECONOMIC IMPACT OF BREXIT:
USING THE CBR MACRO-ECONOMIC MODEL OF THE UK ECONOMY (UKMOD)
https://www.ulster.ac.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0017/181502/CBR-Brexit-Impact.pdf
OK, the OxfordEconomics was a commercial site but I gives an idea of what sort of planning the commercial world has to undertake. Anyway, here are some academics who see Brexit as a ‘challenge to devolution’. I see Brexit as expansionist English nationalism, though I would say that.
The Economic Impacts of Brexit on the UK, its Regions, its Cities and its Sectors
Funded by the Economic and Social Research Council, “The Economic Impacts of Brexit on the UK, its Regions, its Cities and its Sectors” project started in April 2017 and is part of a series of 25 projects funded by ESRC to support the initiative UK in a Changing Europe coordinated by Professor Anand Menon at King’s College London.
https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/schools/business/research/research-projects/economic-impacts-of-brexit-on-the-uk.aspx
Brexit is England’s baby, Scotland has better rhythm. 😉
https://kedisa.gr/en/untangling-the-case-for-brexit-a-critical-investigation-into-identity-and-rationality-based-thinking/
Here’s one I thought relevant, given the performative turn we’re all being encouraged to embrace. Scottish residents should get used to performing in a manner considered appropriate to those who wish to ‘take back control’. Stand up for the good old-fashioned British values of austerity for the poor, servility to elites, cultural intolerance and a penchant for international buccaneering.
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1369148117711092
From the perspective of a post-colonial, feminist, testosterone monkey, this self-ID debate is just getting silly. Sex is not the same as gender. Sex is biological, gender is psychological. Simples.
http://blog.ninapaley.com/2018/02/07/gender_colonialism/
ON BIOPOLITICS IN QUEER THEORY
http://www.thecarceral.org/cn9/Rault.pdf
The Colonization of Womanhood
https://melaninandestrogen.wordpress.com/2016/11/21/the-colonization-of-womanhood/
Can we try and put this self-ID nonsense to bed, please.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/language-in-society/article/michelle-m-lazar-ed-feminist-critical-discourse-analysis-gender-power-and-ideology-in-discourse/67137D199168A6824A0088C5FD6515B6
Discourse Analysis in Language and Gender Studies
Theories of Discourse as Theories of Gender: Discourse Analysis in Language and Gender Studies
http://www.blackwellpublishing.com/content/BPL_Images/Content_store/WWW_Content/9780631225027/002.pdf
Widening the Lens of Language and Gender Research: Integrating Critical Discourse Analysis and Cultural Practice Theory
https://bop.unibe.ch/linguistik-online/article/view/1042/1706
And I’m sure there was someone asking what use is post-structuralism. It helps us see that all identities are socially situated constructs of discursive practices i.e. semiotic signification. 😉
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1111/j.1471-6402.1989.tb01014.x
Feminist Post-Structuralist Discourse Analysis – A New Theoretical and Methodological Approach?
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/7f82/7e4b4ac641db29bfc857d72f3fc9fa4088aa.pdf
Feminist Poststructuralism and Discourse Analysis Revisited
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0361684310395916
@CamB –
Have just scrolled through the above and noticed your comments on Michelle Ballantyne.
It’s good that you highlighted her by way of example because I can’t believe she actually realises the implications of what she said. The fact that she repeated it after the FM had roasted her in FMQs suggests that she really doesn’t understand *why* her remarks caused such a reaction.
People do get put-off by academic treatments of subjects which are fundamentally simple, but we also have to realise that academics are ‘human’ too – they just happen to be working in an industry which demands that they abide by fantastically strict rules on what they can say and how they can say it.
It’s one thing to call comments from characters such as Ballantyne ‘ignorant’ and ‘appalling’ (as Nicola did yesterday) but it’s quite another business to actually ‘prove’ it.
So, cheers Cameron, as aye, for making us aware that there are decent people who set out to do just that, and that their efforts can be found and shared.
Have a braw weekend there my friend.
😉
Cheer Ian. I don’t think I’m over-playing things by suggesting the Tories are taking us into uncharted territory, which includes an historically mythical, culturally nationalistic, narcissistic and chauvinistic, British national identity. This has been fostered through the media ever since Thatcher, an has now risen to a pitch that is impossible to ignore. Anyone living in Scotland who places their trusts in Westminster, is seriously naive, IMHO.
@Cameron –
Agreed.
There’s still, what, a full fortnight until Remembrance Day?
We’re gonny get it full-on, 24/7. The ‘poppy’ shite is already out of control.
As for anyone left in Scotland who has trust in WM? They’re beyond naive, no hope left for them – they’re a lost cause.
@John Rentoul
?”No, there are lots of you, who seem to think calling people twats and pricks is a good way to advance the cause of independence”
You haven’t crossed my sights yet but the likes of Owen Jones definitely deserves the moniker of “prick”. It is a form of belittlement intended to undermining his smug sense of psychological security. It is aimed at stopping him poisoning contemporary social discourse with ideological driven bollocks. It is intended to upturn the status quo of wanky, ineffectual, political commentators. Does that help?
The internet doesn’t carry nuance particularly well. Performative speech acts heighten an audience’s awareness of context and meaning.
Speech Act Theory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaqn8q2uoRI
Of course, I may badly need a refresher course.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yUx6Dn8yi0
Gender equality is important but will not be achieved by privileging men to enable their colonisation of “woomanhood”.
https://www.amherst.edu/media/view/92067/original/gender%2Bmatters%2Bin%2BIPE.pdf
Gender & Sexuality: Critical Theories, Critical Thinkers
http://sk.sagepub.com/books/gender-sexuality
Of Gender and Rationality
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/xsyG7PkMekHud2DMK/of-gender-and-rationality
Morning Brian Doonthetoon 🙂
Aye aye, just up to me usual mischief, one will return once again to the Ship of Fools as and when the journey dictates.
Cheers y’all for the last weekend of and to October ’18.
On legislating misogyny as a hate crime. I’d have thought that near impossible to police and subject to widespread abuse. Well intended but unworkable in practice, IMHO.
Sorry, this will take a couple of posts.
http://www.oxfordscholarship.com/view/10.1093/oso/9780190465544.001.0001/oso-9780190465544
https://www.uclan.ac.uk/research/explore/projects/assets/Lit_review_parts_one_and_two._v2.pdf
http://communication.oxfordre.com/view/10.1093/acrefore/9780190228613.001.0001/acrefore-9780190228613-e-422
https://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1049&context=uclf
citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.1024.8171&rep=rep1&type=pdf
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S001671851630015X
Almost done.
citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.823.7651&rep=rep1&type=pdf
HATE CRIME LAWS
A Practical Guide
https://www.osce.org/odihr/36426
HATE CRIME AND THE LEGAL PROCESS – FINAL REPORT
sro.sussex.ac.uk/70598/3/FINAL%20REPORT%20-%20HATE%20CRIME%20AND%20THE%20LEGAL%20PROCESS.pdf
Hope that helps, though it’s a far from complete overview.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14680777.2018.1447345
The symbolic purpose of hate crime law: Ideal victims and emotion
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1362480613499792
Human Rights and the Critiques of the Public-Private Distinction
https://rechten.vu.nl/en/Images/Human_Rights_and_the_Critiques_of_the_Public-Private_Distinction_tcm248-748835_tcm248-748835.pdf
Then there’s the Normative Legal Theory to consider.
http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1243&context=nlr
The Punishment of Hate: Toward a Normative Theory of Bias-Motivated Crimes
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/21b3/ec719a724e1785255220f1601071359fc3b3.pdf
Submission of Evidence to Scottish Government Independent Review of Hate Crime Legislation (Bracadale Review)
https://oro.open.ac.uk/52612/1/Hate%20Crime%20Legislation%20Review%20%28Barker%20%26%20Jurasz%29.pdf
A bit more legal theory and then some Normative Social Theory. Me, I just try not to be a misogynist in the first place. Perhaps better skooling of feminist social values at school, rather than attempting to engineer society through the law? I no lawyer though.
https://consult.gov.scot/hate-crime/independent-review-of-hate-crime-legislation/supporting_documents/495517_APPENDIX%20%20ACADEMIC%20REPORT.pdf
Sex doesn’t matter? The problematic status of sex, misogyny, and hate
http://shura.shu.ac.uk/16719/8/Sloan%20Sex%20doesnt%20matter.pdf
The intersection of cisgenderism and hate crime: learning from trans people’s narratives
http://digitalcommons.library.tmc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1352&context=jfs
Andre Williams – Pulling Time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngcmRM0ZyQM
Lee Perry & The Upsetters – Justice To The People + Verse Two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6Ffql_5PRM
Silly me, there I am forgetting a Social Legal Studies view.
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0964663914534459
Misogyny as hate crime
The debate about whether to use a general gender hate crime label or a specific misogyny label is ongoing.
https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/commentary-and-opinion/misogyny-as-hate-crime/5067192.article
The Round-Up: A Landmark Ruling for Gay Rights, Misogyny as a Hate Crime, and a Human Right to Divorce?
https://ukhumanrightsblog.com/2018/09/10/the-round-up-a-landmark-ruling-for-gay-rights-misogyny-as-a-hate-crime-and-a-human-right-to-divorce/
Sorry, that was twice for the first link there.
https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/news/pressreleases/2018/july/overwhelming-public-support-for-misogyny-hate-crime-policy.aspx
OK, so why might a white, male, economics graduates with an interest in healthcare, buy into gender ideology and deny scientific realism? I reckon he might be a worshiper of neo-liberal ideolgy and free-market economics. As such, he possibly lacks the biological hardware needed to empathise with the threats women face. Oops, did I say that out loud?
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/14680777.2018.1447428
Popular misogyny: a zeitgeist
http://culturedigitally.org/2015/01/popular-misogyny-a-zeitgeist/
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/14680777.2018.1447428
re. “…selfishness, greed and bling are worshiped and decency, integrity and kindness are mocked”.
This is the manifest rationality of Anglo-American neo-liberal thought and practice. Square that with good old-fashioned ‘British’ exceptionalism and you have the correct mix of group narcissism and cultural chauvinism, to act as bridge towards acts of national self-harm (see Brexit). Scotland can and must do better.
http://www.imavo.be/vmt/13214-van%20Zon%20postmodernism.pdf
http://www.perc.org.uk/project_posts/the-difficulty-of-neoliberalism/
https://democracyeducationjournal.org/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1216&context=home
Cameron I don’t mean to go on but where are you?
The real you not these posts that you’re flooding Off Topic with. Come out into the open man be yourself, gies a tune!
Here’s mine and it’s for you Cameron 🙂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DohRa9lsx0Q
Thepnr
I don’t mean to be stand-offish Alex, it’s just I’ve fill up an awful lot of space. I feel a bit self-conscious of that, as well as knackered. Sorry mate, my mind feels completely empty now. Or at least I’d better not play what I’m thinking of. Wouldn’t want to upset any of the neo-liberal commentariat. 😉
Thepnr, as the wee boay said, “The Emperor has nae claes!”
Here’s a wee nugget for Gil Scott Heron fans, an appearance on Soul Train. Dodgy video and not exactly his funkiest tune but still worth a watch if nly to see the flute player who (I assume) played on ‘The Revolution Will Not Be Televised’
‘Angel Dust’ –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSH72Z1Synw
Fred says:
28 October, 2018 at 8:03 am
Thepnr, as the wee boay said, “The Emperor has nae claes!”
sorry if this a broken record and if i may>>>>>Get a comment into “Brodies” page?
@ smithie 5:34am his name is Cameron. If you don’t like his posts then scroll on by it is the rev who decides if a post is OK or not. Nobody is stopping you from posting. Anyway a big shout out to all the regulars. You know who you are. ? ? ???????
What MM said tbh.
Seriously now smithie, why do you have any sort of issue with what CamB posts, when he posts it or how often? Why does it even matter?
This is his wee corner as much as anyone else’s. He is keeping Aff-Topic going during the lull. He is a very peaceable and amicable character who treats everyone kindly and with respect. Please afford him the same courtesy.
No one stops you posting nor determines the frequency or content of your posts either so please, let CamB “Be”. Cheers.
smithie
I don’t want to spoil the social aspect of OT but I think I have valuable knowledge to share. Sorry bud, but how many folk do you know that can handle applied meta-psychology?
https://www.cairn.info/revue-recherches-en-psychanalyse-2013-1-page-54a.htm?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2926619
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00332925.2017.1350804
P.S. Gender ideology refers to our individual sexuality identities. It is the product of social processes that we either accept or modify, to suite and embody our emotional self. Trans-activists appear to simply have a totally screwed-up appreciation of postmodernism and the limits of positivism, thinking that blind belief and institutional support can undo biological reality.
Sorry, I don’t mean to add to the prevailing confusion.
Gender ideology refers to our individual sexuality identities.Gender ideology refers to our individual sexual identity.
Steve’n’Seagulls – Self Esteem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uvk4TgQWzI
I’ve got a wee bit of favourite philosophy –
What’s the difference between a duck?
One of its leg is both the same.
I mentioned this to my son when he was around 8 and he came back with…
What’s the difference between the other duck?
It’s got one leg less too many.
I think Asperger’s Syndrome runs through our family’s generations…
I noticed this on the Wings Twitter feed today:
” Wings Over Scotland Retweeted
Mr Malky
? @MrMalky
9h9 hours ago
Mr Malky Retweeted Scottish Labour
During the first Scottish Independence referendum
We found pensioners in tears
Because Labour canvassers brough up from Liverpool were telling them that if they, or any of their family voted YES, then their pension would stop on 19 September 2014
How’s that for a cruel lie?”
I am/was a member of Team YES Bus in Dundee, 2014/2015. At one of our foodbank collection for “Taught By Muhammad” outside Tesco in Murraygate, I had a blether with another member of the team (retired).
He related how he had been phoned by a VERY prominent member of the Labour Party in Dundee, prior to the 2014 Indyref.
He told the LP member that he was busy and could he call back in 5 minutes.
In that 5 minutes, the YES Bus member set up his recording gizmo on the phone and, when he was phoned again by the VERY prominent LP member, recorded the phone call, wherein the LP member told him that his pension would be under threat if Scotland voted for independence.
I have pleaded with the TYB member to send me his recording so I could pass it on to Rev Stu (edited to remove identifying references) but he’s no’ keen, because of a previous court case.
The point is… it wasn’t just “incomers” spreading this $h!T, it was our SCOTTISH LP members.
Check out,
http://www.taughtbymuhammad.com/
Here’s one with a friend of mine in mind (he might be reading – waves), who thought it offensive when I suggested Confucianism had influenced Zen Buddhism. Anyway, my religiosity quotient remains in the range of zero to negligible, so I’m not stepping out of character. Still, makes you think, eh?
https://creativesystemsthinking.wordpress.com/2015/10/24/realize-you-are-the-earth-thich-nhat-hanh/
Dharma and the Tao: how Buddhism and Daoism have influenced each other; Why Zen and Taoism can be complementary
https://buddhaweekly.com/dharma-and-the-tao-how-buddhism-and-daoism-have-influenced-each-other-why-zen-and-taoism-can-be-compliementary/
Going with the Flow – Taoist and Zen Approaches
https://personaltao.com/taoism/questions/go-with-the-flow-zen-tao/
@Church of Scotland
What’s your position on all of this? Still supporting British nationalism? Are you a bunch of Tories?
@John Mackay MP
?Looks like you’re a bit of an arrogant tit yourself, calling folk out for not understanding racism, while displaying an outdated and unhelpful understanding of racism yourself. Do you really think “race” is anything other than a sociological definition? Have you not heard of cultural nationalism and cultural racism?
English/British cultural nationalism denies Scottish opinion and obliterates the agency of the Scottish electorate (see Brexit). As such, English/British nationalism articulates cultural chauvinism and replaces democratic mandate with old-skool, colonial, imperialism. Thats rascism John but not as you know it.
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/8794/efba8fb4ad495fe7f5ab6da098440ad990e5.pdf
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/1468-4446.12311
http://www.socresonline.org.uk/4/lawrence/anthias.html
I never knew until tonight that there was a new film out about the life of Freddie Mercury until my son phoned and told me he was going with his girlfriend to see the Freddie mercury picture.
By all accounts it meant to be pretty good so might even get along myself to see it.
That’s one man for me that rightly deserves the accolade of “superstar”.
I’m sure we all have our own favourite Queen songs but this is the first I remember hearing. Who can believe that it is now 44 years old? Still sounds amazing even today. Class act and best performer on stage I’ve ever seen was Freddie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZBtPf7FOoM
So I’ve been watching a few Queen videos now and am amazed at Freddie Mercury’s genius. Here’s another 3 minute clip that is simply brilliant performing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzGwKwLmgM
There’s hope for all us old fuckers yet!
This lady who I have always thought as brilliant is giving it laldy at 72 years old, she looks 40 years younger. Love it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO8vWsggkHc
Hi Thepnr.
RE: Queen. This was the first one I heard. Still have the single…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iUi4vDPnOI
BTW: did you know that, before Queen, Freddie performed under the name “Larry Lurex”?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzA4OyalTuI
Hi Thepnr.
Here’s another “Larry Lurex” single.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3epki8NAbWg
It seems Dusty Springfield had the first hit with that song but I just don’t recall it from the time. I know it from the Goldie version, which is on an “Immediate” compilation CD I bought a few years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTUI8uaD7d0
More info here:-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goin%27_Back
@Brian Doonthetoon
Haha Larry Lurex, I remember the name. I think you were way ahead of most when it came to records.
@Thepnr
Been busy elsewhere for the past few weeks with only the occasional look in. Jings, the MT is getting a bit heated though.
Seems the look over here, not over there strategy of Labour and their chooms has left its mark.
Since it’s Hallowe’en:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4zluA60hjs
Rather dark and unsettling…
Note of da bene.
There is something here on Wings for everybuddy y’all…
As ye always were people..
Continue…
Just catching up on some reading on all this nonsense over on GB and it is nonsense.
Spidey sense was right first time. Look over here, not over there.
@Macart
Yes all of this mince is very disappointing and it does get to you.
Know what though I very much doubt either you, I or along with all of us that have been here for the past few years will be chucking the towel in anytime soon.
Tomorrows another day and we just need to get through each one as it comes and hope we have made a little progress. That’s all it needs one baby step at a time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcKoYGNj0BU
@Brian Doonthetoon
As usual I didn’t have the time to watch both the Larry Lurex videos this afternoon. Done so now and can see clearly that Freddie Mercury was a genius even as a very young man.
So cheers for the reminders, it’s easy to forget.
All that is required for Scotland to become Independent is that enough of us believe it can be. Nothing else.
Ah well, reasonably appropriate, it’s when I got into Queen via a flatmate first permanent job, and still one of my favourites. Pushed by one single DJ, forget who now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfzORpgStQg
Here’s another, Queen live at the Rainbow, was there just the once to see YES. Kind of made me wish I’d not done classical piano 🙂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8Rfb1Jtmic
Yeah, few things get to me these days, sometimes I fake it a bit for effect. But last night with that Grouse thing really got to me, over it now. They exposed his real name, and so his family, utter [censored]. Not just a winger, but a Ciffer.
Journalists like that are the pits. And should be cast into one, full of the sewage they come out with.
Strange where you get to after an hour clicking one on the right, then another one on that, but if this don’t get you feet tapping I don’t know what will.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifr13Upytb4
In fact, just get up and dance, neve mind the neebors! Or the cat.
A top of the marnin to ye all Wingers, ahm sitting in departures at Glasgow International Airport. Heading off to the North Pole for a long weekend. Outbound flight is 48hrs. 😉
Ah’ll be back with a European burp abroad…
See ye later Scotland X.
I saw Queen at the Apollo supporting Mott the Hoople about 73 or 74 and they were “f-ing” good even then.(Not bad for my fisrt concert though)
RIP Freddie: the four-octave voice.
God Nogbad if you want it…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGS_zXD4dCU
And a very good marnin to ye The Milngavie Fox…
An ah bet ye the band were fuckin’ cool!
Be the dude, dude..
Flash!
Tonight, we are composing creations…
On the guitars+.
“God” should be “got”.
That’s a mystery…..
Don’t get frostbite, Cactus and watch out for geysers.
This is the first song I heard Queen play. I have been a fan since then. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38xkDA_Q9rU
In case you didn’t know…
Brian May’s guitar was home-made.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS6bPFoCIkc
Cactus,
I hope you went easy on the Toblerone last night.
Have fun.
@IB 25.10.18 at 11.16 – more than likely, I’d say!
Keeping with Brian May’s home-made guitar…
This video came up in my YouTube search for the video I was looking for, for my main page comment, a few minutes ago.
Note Brian May is still playing the home-made guitar. But look at the lineup of the band on stage…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inRTsEq0RVM
Hi Sarah –
I had to scroll back – way back! – to remind myself of what we were talking about.
It’s all true!
😉
And keeping with the Russ Ballard (Argent) theme.
He wrote this song in 1976.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6I_2nGtrF8
It wasn’t a hit but Clout (South African band – their only UK hit was “Substitute”) did a version of it also. Their lead vocalist has a brilliant voice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeU19p3jtzY
Then Rainbow did a version of it and that became the hit that those of a certain age remember.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P17ct4e5OE
My wee Friday night musical lecture is now at an end so go to the pub and put whatever version on the jukebox.
8=)
@IB at 10.29. Sorry for long delay in response – events, dear boy, events…!
Two Scottish songs to enjoy when you come in from the pub…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRm2qeXIWG8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0z-WhgM378
And a wee bit of comedy from “Absolutely”…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arm1wYG2dOM
Keeping to the comedy theme…
From “A Kick Up The 80s”:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_Xbs_WaIlw
From “Naked Video”:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAVYZLUxaEw
And another from “Absolutely”:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLB_zMDFmPA
Two final comedy links…
Here are all the “Kevin Turvey Investigates” pieces from “A Kick Up The 80s”, compiled into one video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B6fZPRNGHg
And this link is Series 1 Episode 1 of “Absolutely”:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT2GxqiELSs
@Cactus –
Hey brother, you’re probably just getting ready to go out to do your walkabout/noctambulist thing, so this one’s for you!
Gil Scott-Heron, ‘Hello Sunday, Hello Road’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtbKZDT5EuI
🙂 🙂 😉
Howdes, ah didnae come across any geysers but did indulge in the Toby and tasty fondue. Going for more walkabout tomorrow (today) and to spread the good word… aye brought me Yes saltire flag with me.
The excellent infrastructure here is quite an aye-opener, the kind of infrastructure that Scotland should have had by now, if only free from this damaging UK setup.
Coming HOME soon to the best country in this world. 🙂
Hey Ian B, the place ahm at is rather rural (which makes a pleasant change) so no nearby nightlife, although there is a bowling alley. Heading into Luzern ra day to an Irish bar with live music near the river.
Yer right though… bridges, roads, railways, we could have it all.
Am drinking a local beer called 1862, a Baarer Beir.
Naturally the sum of this variety is 17. 😉
It’s SO refreshing to go to a supermarket, to not be met with every other item branded with that nasty UK flag. Excellent choice and quality too.
The people are very passionate about their country too and many proudly fly their HOME flags from their gardens.
Wishin’ yee’s all well belle’s and bro’s x.
Best version of this I think was Hamish Imlach, quiet and stark, but this’ll have to do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k01eVwE7iok
And that’s enough about that. Fuck ’em.
Hi yesindyref2.
“When I was asked to create this presentation for a Remembrance Day assembly, I didn’t know how I would show an “anti-war” song at an event that is supposed to honour our veterans.
At the same time, war and military conflict was such a distant concept for our students, I wanted to some how make history relevant to them, let alone an “Australian” song that most of the our middle school students have never heard.
The more I listened to Bogle’s words, the more I realized that this song was about more than a moment in history. It’s about how history repeats itself and the great sacrifices that are made during war and how futile it all is if we fail to learn from our mistakes.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG48Ftsr3OI
@BDTT
Yes, that’s a better version (as you’d expect I guess), but I’d stick with the Imlach one. I even sang it once when some were back at my place when I was single, maybe the only one I knew all the words to. Not something you want to do too often, I think the next tune by someone else was poisoning pigeons in the park 🙂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhuMLpdnOjY
First off, I just wanted to appologise if I outed that young BLiS___d supporter, the other day. I hope my account of our discussion won’t cause him any future difficulties.
re. Remembrance Day and all things considered patriotic and moral. Sorry peeps but I’m back to do my worst, with an excess of moral philosophising and critical social theorising.
https://mises.org/library/against-politics-government-anarchy-and-order-anthony-de-jasay-0
faculty.georgetown.edu/lbh24/ElsterRev.pdf
….What Is It to ‘‘Believe’’ Something? To understand the role of beliefs in generating action, we have to understand their nature, their causes, and their consequences….In philosophical analyses, knowledge is usually defined as justified true belief, a belief that stands in a particular relation both to the world (it is true) and to the body of evidence the agent possesses (it is justified). Yet neither of these features of knowledge captures the subjective certainty that often underlies the phrase ‘‘I know’’ in ordinary discourse. This certainty is not simply the limit of 97% probability, 98%, 99%, 99.9%, and so forth. It is qualitatively different from anything short of certainty.2
Four Cognitive Attitudes
Even setting aside these problems, the idea of belief remains ambiguous. We may distinguish among four cognitive attitudes to the world, with decreasing strength. First is the mode of certainty. Second is the mode of risk, in which agents assign probabilities, whether based on past frequencies or their own judgment, to each of a set of mutually exclusive and jointly exhaustive outcomes. Third is the mode of uncertainty, in which people know the set of mutually exclusive and jointly exhaustive outcomes but find themselves unable to attach any (cardinal) probabilities to them.3 Finally is the mode of ignorance, in which both the range of possible outcomes and their probability of occurrence are unknown or incompletely known. In the memorable words of former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, we are facing not only known and unknown quantities, but also ‘‘unknown unknowns.’’4
I focus on certainty and risk, not because these are always the appropriate cognitive attitudes, but because they are the most common ones. Even when people have no grounds for having any belief on a given topic, they often feel irresistibly compelled to form an opinion – not a specific opinion (as in wishful thinking), but some opinion or other. This propensity is to some extent determined by cultural factors. Albert Hirschman has said that most Latin American cultures ‘‘place considerable value on having strong opinions on virtually everything from the outset.’’ In such societies, to admit ignorance is to admit defeat. But the tendency is really universal. Montaigne said that ‘‘many of this world’s abuses are engendered – or to put it more rashly, all of this world’s abuses are engendered – by our being schooled to be afraid to admit our ignorance and because we are required to accept anything which we cannot refute.’’ The intolerance of uncertainty and ignorance flows not only from pridefulness, but from a universal human desire to find meanings and patterns everywhere. The mind abhors a vacuum.
….A particular version of the tendency to find meaning in the universe is to impute agency to events that might as plausibly or more plausibly be due to chance….This conspiratorial or paranoid cast of mind is largely immune to refutation, since believers in a conspiracy theory will find it confirmed by lack of evidence or even by contrary evidence, which they interpret as signs of the devilishly clever nature of the conspirators.
These error-generating mechanisms rely in one way or another on motivation. Yet error can also arise from ignorance.
Magic Thinking
Consider next various forms of magical thinking, that is, the tendency to believe one can exercise a causal influence on outcomes that are actually outside one’s control….Also, people may fail to grasp the distinction between causal and diagnostic relevance.
Calvinism offers an example of this kind of magical thinking (Chapter3). Given the Calvinist belief in predestination, there would seem to be no reason for a Calvinist not to indulge in all sorts of worldly pleasures, which by assumption cannot affect their fate after death. Max Weber claimed that Calvinism nevertheless made its followers adopt an ascetic lifestyle, not to gain salvation but to acquire the subjective certainty of being among the elect. We may read him as saying that the Calvinists confused the causal and diagnostic relevance of their behavior. This is made quite explicit in a letter circulated by English Baptists in 1770: ‘‘Every soul that comes to Christ to be saved…is to be encouraged…. The coming soul need not fear that he is not elected, for none but such would be willing to come.’’ If God has chosen me to be among the elect, he will also cause me to will certain kinds of behavior.
….Consider next various forms of magical thinking, that is, the tendency to believe one can exercise a causal influence on outcomes that are actually outside one’s control….Also, people may fail to grasp the distinction between causal and diagnostic relevance.
Calvinism offers an example of this kind of magical thinking (Chapter3). Given the Calvinist belief in predestination, there would seem to be no reason for a Calvinist not to indulge in all sorts of worldly pleasures, which by assumption cannot affect their fate after death. Max Weber claimed that Calvinism nevertheless made its followers adopt an ascetic lifestyle, not to gain salvation but to acquire the subjective certainty of being among the elect. We may read him as saying that the Calvinists confused the causal and diagnostic relevance of their behavior. This is made quite explicit in a letter circulated by English Baptists in 1770: ‘‘Every soul that comes to Christ to be saved … is to be encouraged…. The coming soul need not fear that he is not elected, for none but such would be willing to come.’’ If God has chosen me to be among the elect, he will also cause me to will certain kinds of behavior.
These errors (and many others that have been extensively documented) are for the most part ‘‘cold’’ or unmotivated mistakes, similar in some respects to optical illusions. Other errors, or ‘‘hot’’ mistakes, arise because the beliefs of the agents are motivated, that is, unduly influenced by their desires. As we shall see in Chapter 11, a causal influence of desires on beliefs is not intrinsically irrational….
……..The question is whether this ‘‘decision to believe’’ is a rational project. In one sense it is not: I cannot decide to believe at will the way I can decide to raise my arm at will. One might, however, use an indirect strategy. By acting as if one believed, Pascal argued, one will end up believing. The mechanism by which this might happen is, however, somewhat unfathomable.11
….To navigate in life, it is instrumentally useful to have accurate beliefs. At the same time, beliefs may be intrinsically pleasant or unpleasant, that is, cause positive or negative emotions….
The problem facing the Church of Scotland, as I see it, is whether to act as agents of moral conduct of as agents of cultural oppression. Do they continue to support British nationalism, over the embodied nature of Scotland’s popular sovereignty? What cultural significance do they think they will maintain in a future that is determined by increasingly far-right, English cultural nationalism?
http://www.oxfordscholarship.com/view/10.1093/acprof:oso/9780195305845.001.0001/acprof-9780195305845
PART I: MORALITY WITHOUT SELF-INTEREST
A. Morality on the Defensive
1. The Trouble with Justice
The trouble with justice can be stated simply: it seems that sometimes we do not have reason to be just, specifically reasons of the right kind. It’s obvious that we sometimes are not motivated to act justly, but my concern in this essay is with (normative) reasons for action, not (nonnormative) motives. The problem is also not, as we shall see, what Hobbes’s Foole said, that “there is no such thing as Justice”.4 The Foole is often interpreted as a moral skeptic, and the difficulty that concerns me is different from that posed by this textbook adversary of moral philosophers. The moral skeptic seems to deny that morality is what it is said to be; rather, it is “merely a chimerical [i]dea without truth . . . [a] mere phantom of the brain . . . ”.5
….The trouble with justice, however, is not that the virtue, like Harry, is dead. Rather, it is that sometimes we do not seem to have reasons to be just or, as we shall see, reasons of the right kind….
2. Source of the Trouble
It is easy to think that undue attention to the interests of the self—egoism—is the source of the trouble here, but that is a mistake. Selfishness and other vices of self-interestedness may not be uncommon. But they are not essential to the problem. Thinkers like Hobbes, who thought that humans are rather selfish, formulate the skeptical worry about justice in terms of the interests of the self. But self-interested-ness is only an extreme form of partiality, and it is partiality that is the source of the problem. Whenever justice asks us to benefit another, someone with whose interests we are not sufficiently concerned, the question may arise as to why we should do as required. The interests of friends and countrymen may appeal to us more.
3. Why Justice?
We need justice in order to live well. But the particular kinds of situations that give rise to the need for justice also create the problems with justice….. J. S. Mill famously argues that “justice is a name for certain moral requirements, which, regarded collectively, stand higher in the scale of social utility, and are therefore of more paramount obligation, than any others; though particular cases may occur in which some other social duty is so important, as to overrule any one of the general maxims of justice”.18 Mill argues that we redescribe exceptions so as to avoid asserting that “there can be laudable injustice,” but that is exactly what consequentialists are committed to.
B. Morality on the Offensive
IV. A Rule of Recognition for Morals
Hart’s legal theory distinguishes between primary and secondary legal rules (1961, 89–93). Primary rules comprise what we normally think of as the law. They define our legal rights and obligations. We use secondary rules, especially rules of recognition, to determine what the law is.18
….A moral theory consists of a recognition rule applied to a particular subject matter. Given a subject matter, a rule of recognition for morals specifies grounds for regarding items of that kind as moral. By “grounds” I do not mean necessary and sufficient conditions. In act-utilitarianism, the principle of utility presents itself as necessary and sufficient for an act’s morality, but trying to contrive necessary and sufficient conditions is not the only way (and I think not the best way) to do moral theory. To have a recognition rule, all we need is what I call a supporting condition. A supporting condition is a qualified sufficient condition, qualified in the sense of being a sufficient basis for endorsement in the absence of countervailing condi-tions. Formulating recognition rules in terms of supporting conditions rather than attempting to specify necessary and sufficient conditions is one way of acknowledging intuitionist claims that we could never fully articulate all of the considerations relevant to moral judgment. We can allow for that possibility (without letting it stop us from doing moral theory) by formulating recognition rules in terms of supporting conditions—conditions that suffice to shift the burden of proof without claiming to rule out the possibility of the burden being shifted back again, perhaps by considerations we have yet to articulate….
….There is nothing in the nature of morality to indicate that we should aim to answer all questions with a single recognition rule, because there is nothing in the nature of recognition rules to suggest there cannot be more than one. Modern ethical inquiry is often interpreted (maybe less often today than a few years ago) as a search for a single-stranded theory—a single rule of recognition applied to a single subject matter, usually the subject of what moral agents ought to do. Maybe Kant and Mill intended to promulgate single-stranded theories; friends and foes alike often take them to have done so. In any case, when interpreted in that way, their theories can capture no more than a fragment of the truth. The truth is: morality is more than one thing. A theory will not give us an accurate picture of morality unless it reflects the fact that morality has more than one strand. Accordingly, I would not try to derive all of morality from a single recognition rule.
Sorry for that wall of thought. It’s a pitty Phil Spector was such a creep. Here’s some popcorn, instead.
Sugar Pie De Santo – Go Go Power
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdD4rtTWHYw
My daily routine of doing the crossword and number grid in the National keeps the old grey cells ticking over and, hopefully, is helping to forestall senility (evidence, please).
I also have undertaken a dietary overhaul which now includes daily papaya seeds, chia and oat bran which, again hopefully, is working wonders on my digestive tract and cardio-vascular system. (In truth my energy levels have improved).
We got two cavalier pups which require walking 5 times a day and I also carry out a regime of neck and shoulder exercises to retain some flexibility.
Hopefully, those efforts to not go gently into that good night bear fruit. (Oh BTW I forgot the guanabana juice).
But my latest response to received wisdom was to invest in an XBOX One X. (Seemingly ‘gaming’ works wonders on the coordination and response time of the elderly). It came bundled with the two ‘games of the year’ and there is a Scottish connection to both.
One is ‘Red Dead Redemption II’ and the other is ‘Horizon Forza 4’.
The first is by Rockstar North which is a Scottish company which started life as DMA Design in Dundee but is now headquartered in Edinburgh.
The second. while based in England, specialises in vehicle gaming and the surprising thing is that this latest ‘blockbuster’ game has Edinburgh as its main urban area.
Well perhaps not so surprising when you consider the number of ex-Rockstar talents which have been lured (or lucred?) South, perhaps most notably Will Kennedy of GTA fame.
Anyhoo, I was delighted to be driving around my capital city. O.K. it is minus its environs and many iconic buildings (Scottish Parliament, Holyrood Palace, Museum of Scotland, MacLaren Hall, Usher Hall etc.) but the bits that are there are recognisably Edinburgh. Great.
It has also been well received around the World by reviewers on Youtube who, on the whole, seem delighted with how interesting Edinburgh is in its architecture and quirky layout.
I have however only watched 1 English reviewer’s video and I don’t think he used the word Scotland once. A lot of his review was spent in the small pseudo map area that was the far North of England. His 20 seconds or so, devoted to Edinburgh, he spent knocking down lampposts and commenting that the buildings looked like some other American game and finished with some remark about how he hoped the council wasn’t too upset with him knocking down the lamposts.
This has got to be the bestest thing on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EoAHdwGBvU
I can’t stop, sob
Help me (Rona)!
I was saving this for Murdo of the Queen’s eleven, but I think David Leask has just junmped the shark. If the man wants to support racialised right-wing populism (see Brexit), why revert to sneek attacks on those who oppose it. Why does he not come out and state he is a right-winger who’s politics are based on a very particular and narrow social view, ego-driven cultural predjudice and biggotry. State he supports the full English Brexit, in opposition to the vote of the Scottish electorate.
Willie Dixon – Weak Brain, Narrow Mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdBcyo9joCE
Smallaxe and I are so excited by Harry and Meghan’s news that we are busy knitting a variety of non-gender specific matinee jackets, bootees, hats and shawls against the Great Day.
Could I ask you drone up or down any spare white wool, size 4 needles or still-functioning crochet hooks to: “Tinto Towers, 666 Bessie Braddock Corniche, Auld Cadzow, Darkest Lanarkshire”?.
And oblige TC.
Michelin and similar closures
If we have the Labour, Managerial, Marketing/Sales, Technical skills and Plant, why can we not, as a potentially entrepenuerial Country, set up our own businesses/industries?
@BDTT
The question is, how long can we keep it there?
Still hingin’ in there…
I bought Dundee Waterstones last copy of Billy Kay’s “The Scottish World” on Monday.
Found this in the chapter covering France: another take on “Hey Tuttie Tatie” – The Rob Roy Overture by Berlioz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBPJmC8zops
She can sing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2Taxuott5s
Neil Young has visions.
BDTT: just saw your 11.32.
Enjoyed it, positively McCunnish (LOTMATF) but some of the comments rather dismissive.
Och well, it’s got something to do with Scotland, so……
I’ve just watched this again; my eyes still become irritated when the bagpipes come in at 1m 04s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WulAWn_N_O0
And then again at 3m 41s…
Typing as I’m in a music groove…
Around 1977/78 a band called ‘Krazy Kat’ was booked to play at the Bowlin’ Alley. As usual, in advance, I toddled down to Chalmers & Joy to see what they had by the band. I found an LP called “China Seas” which had a track called “Dundee Calling” contained thereon. My curiosity was piqued.
They were a fine band – they actually allowed me to record their performance to my reel-to-reel from their mixing desk.
Onnyhoo, too much a-Googling has turned up no connection between the band and Dundee. KK was a evolution from Tony Rivers & The Castaways, Harmony Grass, Christie and Capability Brown. Tony Ferguson was the name that kept turning up. Essex seemed to be the location of formation.
How did the band know about Dundee’s whaling tradition? Did another Google search today but still no connection between the band and Dundee shows up.
So, keeping on a whaling theme, here is “Dundee Calling” followed by another whaling song, “Nantucket Sleighride”, by Quartz. Wingers of a certain age will probably remember its intro as “Weekend World’s” signature tune.
A ‘Nantucket Sleighride’ was what happened when a whaler from Nantucket harpooned a whale, which then pulled the boat across the ocean until its strength was spent.
In order,
“Dundee Calling”:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGOw7em2LQw
“Nantucket Sleighride”:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v7phRN7XJM
OOH-ER MISSUS!
This came up as the next video after Quartz. Try to keep in focus…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4ouPGGLI6Q
Then this one came on before I closed the tab…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO9OFxPpSYs
While I’m here…
Can I make a suggestion?
We could keep ‘off-topic’ for music and general ‘banter’ (like in the olden days) and if anyone has SERIOUS stuff to post, use ‘Quarantine’ for that, posting a LINK in ‘off-topic’ to the serious stuff?
Like this:-
https://wingsoverscotland.com/quarantine/comment-page-3/#comment-2406671
(Hi CBB!)
But there’s no-one here, Brian, to banter with.
MacCunnish, I meant, like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-F5dmRV5Bc
Sarah et al.
Looks like the Kirrie experiment has born fruit judging by the DIY section in the National. Analysis from the 20,000 hand out and repeat exercises in Kirkcaldy and Oban suggest similar exercises could add thousands to the National’s circulation.
There is a plan to have a weekly exercise.
Also, they seem to have taken on board the need to do this by area to ensure they can stock local shops with enough papers so no new buyers are disappointed and, likely, non returners.
All activists here should make sure their local groups are aware of this and get on the schedule.
@ Tinto, MacCunn superb this very fine morning. Needs a glass of Laphraoig to appreciate it properly!
@ Chick 10.22
That is great news. My group has been invited to join the scheme of bulk delivery but is a bit tricky as we are thinly populated over a very wide area. But we are working on it!
Must confess, Fred, that I am too much of a peasant to appreciate Laphroaig: a malt too far imho.
Think I’ll follow Chick’s New Age diet with my usual regime of spring water and bending exercises with occasional quinoa burger.
The cymbalist certainly earns her/his corn in LOTMATF.
Sarah,
Great stuff. I would imagine take up of the digital version would be greater in thinly populated areas due to lack of nearby outlets.
@ Tinto, ah draw the line at Ardbeg & Octomore is way off the PEATED scale altogether. Shudders!
Hi Tinto Chiel.
Thanks for the ‘Hamish Maccunn: Land of the Mountain & the Flood Overture’. Must confess I had never heard of him!
RE: whisky. To me, Laphraoig tastes/smells like stuff you would pour down your bogpan to clear a blockage. Jura and Highland Park are my favourite malts. However, around a year ago, Tesco was doing a litre of Bells for £14. I hadn’t tasted Bells in living memory but it seemed to be in every hovelhold at Hogmanay, when I was a bairn. So I thought I would try it. (50/50 Bells & lemonade or Iron Brew [Lidl’s]). Was pleasantly surprised. It has just a hint of peatiness that isn’t overdone.
Lastly, I have just downloaded ‘Outlaw King’ to watch tonight. You’ll find it at the link below. I clicked on ‘Server VidCloud’ then downloaded it using the ‘Flash Video Downloader 16.2.7’ add-on for Firefox. 720 quality.
https://putlocker.vip/film/outlaw-king-26824/watching.html?ep=1436263
@Fred: strangely, I was about to describe Laphroaig as Ardbeg with all the smoothness and body taken out of it. Chacun a son gout, non? I was given a bottle of Ardbeg one Christmas and, when I opened it, Mrs Tinto called from the kitchen, “Is something burning?” hee! hee!
My Dear Old Dad opined there were no bad whiskies, you just had to persevere 😛 Mind you, he drew the line at Red Hackle.
@BDTT: you’re very welcome. My first exposure to MacCunn was as the title music to “Sutherland’s Law”. I think LOTMATF is a favourite of Ian B. I like your whisky choices masel but lately have been drawn to Talisker and my habitual dram in extremis, Aberlour.
Of course, afterwards I thrash myself with spring water and organic pinhead oats.
@ Tinto, sadly Charlie Hepburn’s “Red Hackle!” is no longer in production, a bit of a character like his whisky, he was known as Cherlie Hertburn to the cognoscenti!
@ Chick 11.12
Good thinking about digital being more useful in areas with no shop! It never occurred to me – doh.
“Cherlie Hertburn”: razz
This didn’t used to be available on YouTube but I think this track is from a great album of Burns songs. Probably Burns’ last poem/song, written when ill and bed-ridden in Dumfries. Very exposed a capella but I think RP does amazingly well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkmfQcbE7x0
Silver Tassie is also sung beautifully, but to a more unusual air.
Found it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4FgErltdO4&list=PLaf7EdoRgslqelYJo8T9ZS1vx8v0-sS60&index=8
Bonsoir, mes braves!
I’m 22 minutes into ‘Outlaw King’, that I saved this afternoon.
https://wingsoverscotland.com/off-topic/comment-page-71/#comment-2406899
I’ve paused to post this. It was the B side of a Les Reed single back in the early 70s but is appropriate as it is now 11/11/18.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VxDCNSrhSY
It was the B side of ‘Man of Action’, which was the signature tune of the last remaining pirate radio station in the late 60s and early 70s, broadcasting from off the coast of the Netherlands, Radio North Sea International. I listened regularly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je8M9lm-A24
And a follow-up…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKay67Y9THI
To those who interact with FUD and as a typical Fud seems impervious to criticism and seems to have obsession with this site….perhaps focus on his Achilles heel …..I remember him getting right stroppy over someone highlighting his needy effort on a certain dating site.
He just loves to berate us all by using term NATS …so if you must interact and he uses term NATS again ask him if it is an acronym for dating site NATS…Nobody Asked The Saddo….dating site for losers.
Petty I know but fucks sake this guy has latched onto this site like a fricken leech onto skin.
If you’ve watched ‘Outlaw King’ over the weekend, here’s a wee follow-up.
https://www.paisley.org.uk/2016/06/marjory-bruce/
@ All
Yes East Ayrshire’s 2018 crowdfunder (with perks this time) went live this morning at 9 o’clock :
(https://crowdfunder.co.uk/yes-east-ayrshire-crowdfunder-2018)
I’m aware that there are lots of people trying to raise money at the moment, but if anyone could give us a bit of publicity via eg Twitter, that would be greatly appreciated!
Here’s a question for the cogno… cog… those who know a think or two, when did music videos start being shown in pubs? I could swear I remember a screen in the corner of the bar just off the Leidseplein in the early 80s showing the likes of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtfZbj4J71A
my fave’s the one on the right, swear I knew someone identical
Mmm, Mind, I was back working there late 90s, so it’s probably then I’m thinking of with the music video thing, same tune.
Friday night light relief. I see people on the wee dug dicussing constitutions,flags and national anthems but what would be your own “alternative anthem” for a new nation.
I can think of Alex Harvey-Anthem
Proclaimers -throw the R away
Glasvegas-Go sqaure go
Orange Juice (Union) rip it up and start again.
I’m sure you can do better.
Here’s one for FudnRock, the Desperate Duo, or Pratman and Bobin’ as they’re affectionately known.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fI7zm7RXHs
Ello, allo, allo… whit has a been a gaun on in here, like.
Big day for the future of the (former) uk today.
Get really ready for the eruption!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCwigPhpiXs
Tune in from 2pm.
o/t is ok.
Hive been listening to the bbc radio thru this morning.
Some right belters of callers in there…
“We have been very clear”
Wah ha ha ha, ha.
*****
Ian Blackford (good guy), Scotland, is up next on radio…
Did anybuddy else just get a DAB radio signal cut out there…?
Ian Blackford is speaking NOW.
Any day soon will be the day, look out yer mornin’ window.
Yer…
C major
F major
G major
C route baybey!
kinda thing.
W’ing925.
Did you hear that, BBC Radio Scotland travel lady…
Whit just happened there hehehe?
She freaked out!
Did U hear it.
Welcome tae #offtopicathon2018 🙂
This is yer November edition.
Saint Andrew’s Day is…
30/11/18, like..
Ye up TAE!
X2.
The quickening begins today…
It’s TFC.
NB ‘TFC’ equates to The Final Countdown, Sandy 🙂
Radio is freaking out!
We’re there.
Pleased to meet with you y’all 🙂
This one is for you and us one and all:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcJ-wNmazHQ
Ahm right intae Europe, like.
And Venus.
I think (and hope) we’re seeing this, with a large amount of choreography
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNNW0SPkChI
This is a follow-up to my comment on the main page at:-
https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-question-begged/comment-page-1/#comment-2408577
“Stanley Unwin’s final TV interview.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7GBh5zqEwg
“Talkin’ Politician Blues”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzNY7zeCJOQ
Ah’m fed up readin’ aboot politrickens n’ thur polytricks.
“Politician Blues”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow2vZaonKRA
Ah’m still fed up!
The Levellers: “Social Insecurity”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pVnFMCh4dc
England’s fed up as well!
Free: “Little Bit Of Love”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3R7HYX5rG8
Feeling better noo.
🙂
McGuinness Flint: “Malt & Barley Blues”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DKn4SjhvUQ
It’s just the booze talkin’
🙂
John Kongos: “He’s gonna step on you again”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld1vQVoaQIM
If you remember that track, then you should be in your bed!
😉
CCS: “Tap Turns on the Water”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcfxvWa1FYA
Quite durty that first bit, intit?
Family: “In My Own Time”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGF2e5JFdRI
Tick Tock
Albert Hammond: “The Free Electric Band”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvKlUfVb90Y
🙂
Curved Air: “Backstreet Luv”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUnjMI81vAA
Luvly lassie, intshe?
🙂
Renaissance: “Northern Lights”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-JEJZtnsE0
Sa’nother luvly lassie
😉
Yes: “Wonderous Stories”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-BMlq_zyko
YES would be wonderful, wintit?
Fleetwood Mac: “Man of the world”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJWOtL-PZiE
Good night
🙂
Smashing band from the Holy Loch – the Evil Geniuses
http://www.facebook.com/114211165299709/videos/145083428884653/
If anybody has a succinct sentence to describe the clusterbourach of the Brexit deal I’d be very happy to stick it into my Roundabout Show (7pm)tomorrow night on Argyll Independent Radio online
@Dave McEwan Hill
Police were called to the House of Commons today, to investigate the disappearance of sanity over Brexit. 600 people were detained for further questioning by a psychiatrist, but the SNP, PC, Greens and LibDem MPs [1] were released.
[1] You can forget the LibDems if you want 🙂 And check the 600 bit.
Something like that!
Maybe “and a few others”. They’re not all totally crackerjack.
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
16 November, 2018 at 6:28 am
Maybe “and a few others”. They’re not all totally cr*ckerj*ck.
You might want to add “a few others”.
3rd attempt, others awaiting moderation 🙁
Dave McEwan Hill,
It’s a toraidh boarach. Which roughly translates as a falling out of thieves.
smallaxe,
Great to see you on such fine form. Some good tunes there. Love to you both.
A wee song for Smallaxe who I believe has been interacting with the motor trade
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omGPVIxbYgc
A wee tune for Tinto, who likes the occasional surprise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fztHnEmIlk
Hi Troops,
Please raise a glass to my old mate who passed today.
One of the good ones who directed me to Indy decades ago.
For Nana http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qev-i9-VKlY
@ Gary45% 8:28 pm
Large Glenlivet for your mate Gary and a gaelic tune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2-rV7AIZOo
Nana: re Smallaxe and his new chariot, was thinking more along these lines:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFEmJAHEGEQ
Could I respectfully point out that the goat-nadgering season does not resume until the vernal equinox?
@hackalumpoff 8.35:top track. She had a great voice.
Nana, do you want a lift?
Bob Marley and the Wailers (BMW)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLuHE-82o40
Takin’ it slow
😉
Hi, cearc!
🙂
Hey Smallaxe
She is driving me here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnRsaHXHznQ
Help Polis..
Tinto an education from a Master Pedant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVDCsXUygEw&t=9s
Gary45%,
Sorry to hear about your loss, a glass of cognac raised in respect to ‘one of the good ones’.
“Goodbye My Friend”: Linda Ronstadt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STS4PDo8TaU
New Cabinetmaker required, maybe this chap will do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg95vIrbFHU&start_radio=1&list=RDzg95vIrbFHU&t=45
On the other hand I prefer this guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCdfYkUPvTs
Gary 45% @ 8.28
Large Dram…. raised to …The memory of yer very good friend…
Hi, Hackalumpoff & Tinto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV1_7R_3cXA
🙂
“Tinto an education from a Master Pedant”
I watched that carefully and there was nothing about wee flags, hackalumpoff. Harvey was so disappointed.
Looking forward to his explanation of Precession and The Great Year, the speccy dweeb.
I would help with that carpentry…
If I Had a Hammer;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp1z8EzZ5Hs
Jaysus Smallaxe she’s batterin me, all I asked for was Merc.
let’s go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwrHwZyFN7M
Hi Smallaxe.
Good to see you actively commenting again. If you like, drop me an email at:-
brianALLTHESHIT@doonthetoon.plus.com (removing ALLTHESHIT to give you the proper email addy). There’s stuff I have wanted to send you over the months.
BTW: you may recall a couple of years ago or so, I typed that I was gonna upload a single for 25th January, when I found it in my hovelhold.
I eventually found it. But, unfortunately, at some point, probably whisky influenced, I had fallen against the carrier bag which contained it and it was in many pieces.
However, I consulted eBay and I think I bought the only copies of both the 7″ and 12″ versions that were available at that time.
No’ tellin’ yi what it is but I will upload either version to YouTube sometime in January.
So there!
8=)
Wee Flags Tinto: See below;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjqIDFjBNhQ
🙂
I may have been a trifle insulting about yon equinoctial guy. After all, precession is all so simple:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precession
Smallaxe and I have had several symposia thereon and not a wine glass in sight.
Hackalupoff, speed up a bit;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sGy_-p_sVE
Fast enough?
BDTT, on it Brian!
@ tinto – Sonny Jim,
Precession & the equation of time, Sextants at Noon, you name the place, I’ll name the time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_VjVqe3KJ0
In light of the UN Man’s report today confirming what we have all known about the Tories and UB.
This is one of my favourite songs by Eric Bogle with the story behind it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HGuqz_lUow
The CD version is slower and better with John
Tinto says, “not a wine glass in sight”. That’s only because you drink it oot the boatle!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKk0Nf5n1BM
😉 hic***
Poor old Woman;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6VxTyQP4c0
Sa’shame, intit?
@hackalumpoff: come ahead, Govan ferry!
@Smallaxe:”drink it oot the boatle.” That’s a disgraceful suggestion. Our wine glasses were away for re-chamfering, if you must know.
Honestly, some folks!
@ Smallaxe
Dinking oota bottle ! Ma Chiel is sookin the couch.
HMRC and Rangers have nothing on this guy he even has shares in distilleries and has side drain from Dalmore.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yPIC-o1O3k
A friend of mine had a fight with A Bottle of Whisky, Nana.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQMZqURw86I
I had to gie him hauners! The two o’ us still got beat.
🙂
@ Tinto
Govan ferry? Surely somewhere near Shengen like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osd8GSVDFB0
None of yer goats milk porridge testicles there.
@hackalumpoff, Smallaxe.
Youse two are pure bringing doon the tone of this thread.
Velour baffies and exquisite water-silk dressing-gown on so I’ll just leave you with this metaphysical apercu:
Polish definition of nothing: two men and a bottle of vodka.
Dobranoc!
Many Thanks for the kind words.
The both of us were gutted in 2014, we even had a place picked for the raising of the dram, the bottle got placed back in the cabinet ready for the next Indy, alas he will miss it, but will be there in spirit.
Cheers.
Oyasuminasai, Tinto.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbJhIEt1Vjc
Sleep well.
😉
Gary45%,
Go Placidly, my friend.
Popa Chubby: “Sweet Goddess Of Love And Beer”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNy-tfXq-s0
Goodnight everybody.
🙂
@ Tinto, Nightie Nite up the woodeny hill in Tinto Towers, don’t wake Mrs Tinto.
@ Smallaxe same to you sir.
Oi tink Mrs hackalumpoff has gone furra walk on the links.(winky)
Sad to hear of the passing of Tony Joe White, he was on my to see bucket list RIP Tony. Bless all Wingers, including Trolls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r9kJGmZOQQ
Cockburns Haggis ramorra as Cactus says.
Over to the nightshift Cactus.
For some reason I didn’t sleep at all well, Smallaxe. I wonder why?
Gary45%: sorry to hear your sad news. I often think of all the Scots in the past 300 years or so who died without seeing their quiet, secret dream of independence achieved and with little prospect of it in their whole lives. Before the SNP, what party was ever going to deliver it? Certainly not those twisters in the Liberal party or Labour with their “Home Rule”.
We’re the lucky ones because we’re very close now to seeing it happen and I think you’ll be having a dram from that bottle soon. Thankfully the Young ‘Uns don’t give a flying fruit bat for the BBC’s propaganda or the mainstream press so they’re beyond their control and the UK state is crumbling before our eyes.
Ironically, I suspect it will be the “boring” legal/historical concept of sovereignty which will finally trip up WM when we get the two pending legal judgments.
Evenin’ hackalumpoff, a howde do, ah was away for the morning yesterday.
Just been listening to the talk radio wireless and have now looked out a game for me X box… it’s the original Forza Horizon racing game. To the track players.
Aye may multitask accordingly.
A glass raised to ye.
Hi, just a note to ask if there’s any pre-Christmas Wings get-togethers planned in Edinburgh 7-15 December. Visiting Scotland for the first time in years so would welcome some chat. Joyce
Hey marga, what say you Winger Citizens of Edinburgh… ah could make it over frae Glasgow furra day/night out if y’all fancy getting a gathering a going a gain.
Either Sat 8th or 15th December would be best.
Slide guitar and killer bass line?
Nae Problemo…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlQwMKnfJEs
So,which one of these is the best?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKOnplALNIE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbndfXPU6AU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH_wHuM0JEA
Tinto, slide bass?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPg_x9SJajI&ab_channel=DannySapko
Enjoy your slide? Have a wee go on the trampoline!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17YXSIuqmVc&ab_channel=marushkaSR
A spin on the roundabout to finish off;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeXhAEfvnV4&ab_channel=PaddymanMusic
🙂
Dave McEwan Hill, one of these?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlE1C8_DtSo&ab_channel=ConcordRecords
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp_1LXj4D30&ab_channel=burritodlx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDlK52SvJVY&ab_channel=WillM
😉
Mibbie’s one of these?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWA6Fb8C1xM&ab_channel=hleb4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7sNSduf7Gc&ab_channel=ElizabethTravis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM0fXtg4SOY&ab_channel=AustinCityLimitsTV
😎
Evening, Smallaxe. Amazing bass playing, that. He can sure spank his plank.
Frankly, I found Paolo’s track to be thinly-veiled, suggestive filth: more please.
Square roundabout an excellent metaphor for Brexit, non?
Are your wheels hot?
Hot?, Tinto;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkCBVZHrstE&ab_channel=vinylsolution
So hot they’re cool, man!
😎
This could be a metaphor;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUUvZMzhSB0&ab_channel=beltop301973
Mibbie’s?
Julie was always great but yon Brian Auger was a BIT of a twit imo. Geddit?
I had a terrible secondary teacher for a while in S1 who used to say, “A simile’s just a figure of speech you haven’t met afore!”
He ended up driving an SMT bus: a school bus, as it turned out.
Brian Auger might have been a BIT of a twit, Tinto but he knew the drill;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsuQO77n9SE&ab_channel=EricBurdonTributeChannel4
Geddit?
😉
@ Smallaxe, good to see you back in your chair kid! 🙂
Cheers, Smallaxe
As we approach the 60th anniversary of Not Fade Away Day (3rd February) I remember walking to school that day in 1959 almost in tears – like most of the guys. Buddy Holly was our guy – not any of the pretty boys or the media constructions like Elvis.
That is why my wee radio show is called “Not Fade Away” – because I believe its construction with its Afro American hambone beat which lends itself to imaginative improvisation is the actual soul of rock’n’roll -and has probably been jammed by more artists than any other song ever.
Florence and the Machines’s version I found a little disappointing though I played it on my show because it is just a litle too clever.
Grateful Dead made it their standard. There are dozens of their versions available.
The Austin City Limits version you list is awesome, as much because of the line up.
But I still find myself trying to decide between Stevie Nix and Tanya Tucker (and of course the Crickets original – amazing what you can do with three guys and a lot of talent).
Hi, Fred, I’m just popping in now and again to get some relief fae that FUD on the main thread. He admits that he votes conservative and he’s oan datin’ sites lookin’ fur a burd.
Ergo, just another tory wanker!
Here’s a wee XXX-rated video ae ‘im;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmP0hmuDbMQ&ab_channel=Maryoalpha4
😎
It wisnae me!
Thanks’ for that really interesting reply Dave. Her’s another 3 but I think they would be too long for a radio show.
“NOT FADE AWAY”: Jon Bon Jovi;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVR0BQ7XbOM&ab_channel=BonJoviparaBrazukas
Black Oak Arkansas: “Not Fade Away”;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIi6sgci9h0&ab_channel=SOUTHERNREBEL
Trout Fishing In America: “Not Fade Away”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3FywYooMq4&ab_channel=ilikebeers
@Smallaxe –
🙂 🙂 🙂
Something about that wee video reminded me of the Furry Freak Brothers, who I’m sure you’re familiar with. We used to pass around the magazine in Art School, would’ve been early 80s. My favourite was Fat Freddy’s Cat and the cockroach colonel who would send them into battle: ‘There’s plenty more where they came from!’
Which kind of brings us full-circle, to OT being a refuge from the fekkin pests on the MT…
😉
Hi Smallaxe et al.
RE: Julie Driscoll. “Fabulous 208” magazine used to pepper their issues with full page (A4?) posters of ‘pop stars’. I still have the one of Julie Driscoll from her “Wheel’s On Fire” period, stashed in my hovelhold. Wonderful lookin’ wummun.
——————————————–
Dave McEwan Hill.
RE: Not Fade Away.
Back in the late 70s, a Rock ‘n’ Roll revival band called Fumble played at my DJ residency, The Bowlin’ Alley in Dundee (Dundee Institute of Technology Students Union).
They were excellent. Do a Google for their album “Poetry In Lotion”. They did “Not Fade Away” but encouraged the audience to sing along with it, like in this recording. “b-dowm, b-dowm, b-dowm dowm.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmEFacQ4aVQ
HAMBONE:
“Hambone” “Steve McCraven”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8r5wxpa3hg&ab_channel=mycompasstv
Tinto, don’t you go trying that!
Too late, ye did, didn’t ye?
RE: Not Fade Away.
This video came up next after Fumble’s. Look at the SIZE of the band! There must be around 7 or 8 guitarists…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM0fXtg4SOY
RE: Not Fade Away.
Cancel my last comment. Just caught up. Mea Culpa…
Hi, Ian,
Memories memories;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTyNBfK8chI&ab_channel=exorsist2010
Wot, me worry!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mW5_QDkx-k&ab_channel=JohnSpillman
Oz ya bass!
😉
“Tinto, don’t you go trying that!
Too late, ye did, didn’t ye?”
@Smallaxe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2SDInk6voA
Good job I was wearing my leather chaps from the Old Ponderosa!
Brian Doonthetoon at 9.11
That was interesting
Hi, Brian,
Has anybody played the original yet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyTtFNGzFsE&ab_channel=MinorThreat81
“Oh Boy”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j53OPR-cuYY&ab_channel=HouseRockinChannel50%27s
😉
Chess, it Tinto?
One Night in Bankok;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnqj31VPNoE&ab_channel=abbagus1
That’s me rooked!
😎
Ther shood be a IS betweeen chess anD IT, ma spelqueckres phucked agane.
Original Mixed Up Kid;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ho8WGDQL90&ab_channel=glamejm
😉
Oh, Smallaxe, you are a silly sossage.
Nearest I got to Banknock was Kilsyth!
Spent too long in The Scarecrow…
Coulda happened to anybody 😛
I see that ‘off-topic’ is back to normal viewing.
Onwards and upwards…
The Scarecrow, wissat you in ther, Tinto?;
“Scarecrow”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yBvhIC8d5U&ab_channel=suregena
That explains everything.
😉
Onwards and Upwards, Brian!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DONOtUx2SVk&ab_channel=Agam
Did you like the lyrics?, I think the second verse is the best.
😎
“Wissat you in ther?”
Musing upon the king my brother’s wreck, Smallaxe.
Liked yon video: it had trees in it. I like trees. 😛
Tinto, do you think you’re the Fisher King?
You’ll finish up in the…;
“Sea of Heartbreak”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do6wg3xVf2k&ab_channel=JoeBrownMusic
Kin ye swim?
The Honeycombs: “Have I the right”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuUpOerfT2I&ab_channel=petrusbreda
A blast from the past! Way before my time.
Whit!
No, I can’t swim, Smallaxe, despite my figure-hugging Speedos (for The Laydees, obvs).
FYI, my secondary skool got the choice of a full-length swimming pool or a groovy 60s-style sub-Picasso Muriel (Coronation Street version).
Of course the utter spanners chose the Muriel. Ergo, no canny swim.
Life can be bitter, like tears of chard (peotry).
I know you understand, old mole.
FYI, Tinto, my school had a swimming pool, so I can swim but only at night, ’cause I went to night school!
R.E.M. “Nightswimming”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVT0S0j7F9Y&ab_channel=REMVEVO
Dark intit?
“Dark, intit?”
Until the rosy-fingered morn, Smallaxe.
And then we go again.
Nuffin else furrit, as my grannie used to say before filling her cutty pipe.
Sleep well, mon vieux.
Smallaxe at 9.45
The drum track on that original version of Not Fade Away by the marvelous Jerry Allison (the last surviving Cricket)was with drumsticks on a cardboard box and a snare drum. Not Fade Away was a B side -as was Well All Right – two of the most respected of Buddy’s songs. But as I said -three guys in a small studio!
It’s ma turn tae pipeclay the sterrs ramorra, Tinto. Mibbies ah’l see ye wanst ah’m done. Ah hope thers nae mice aboot!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fg7w49UnGA&ab_channel=bigmanio
Squeak well, Tinto.
😉
An amazing sound from 3 guys in a studio Dave.
Here are Five Guys Named Mo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EaUqLrfEMU&ab_channel=syn707
S’amazin whit ye kin learn oan aff topic, intit?
😉
Fanx, Smallaxe.
Re pipeclaying the stairs, I know from my unfortunate time in yon Turkish prison (simple misunderstanding) that it can be hard on the knees.
BTW: Granny says, “Hi!”
Bonsoir1
Bonsoir1=Bonsoir!
Obvs!
Is yoor spelqueker phucked as well, Tinto?
Don’t wurry s’only wurds;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkqwRC23HN8&ab_channel=beegees
Gees oh!
Yup, it’s Phuket, and I’ve never even been there!
#Ware the Phuk am I?
Laters, haters!
DISCO…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbpsI2c_3-E&ab_channel=hanshansen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UaJAnnipkY&ab_channel=ClubMusic80s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxCqZHSxd2E&ab_channel=NoMadU55555
Dancin’?
I had Leg of Swan for dinner tonight, I didn’t kill the swan ’cause they belong to Queenie but it will go round in circles ’till I go back for the other leg next week. Then it’ll just go with the flow.
🙂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0h5E0pxLBw&ab_channel=VICTORESPINOSA
Tasty!
Night all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rQ-p0WnGd8&ab_channel=catman916
Gon yersel, big Diana!
😉
Youse guys is jist too sharp fur me!
Hi Tinto Chiel at 10:45 pm last night.
You typed,
“Liked yon video: it had trees in it. I like trees.”
Here you are then – 47 minutes of ‘Trees – FULL ALBUM – The Garden of Jane Delawney’.
Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVMaLvc9MlY
From Wikipedia…
“Trees was a British folk rock band recording and touring throughout 1969, 1970 and 1971, reforming briefly to continue performing throughout 1972. Although the group met with little commercial success in their time, the reputation of the band has grown over the years, and underwent a renaissance in 2007 following Gnarls Barkley’s sampling of the track Geordie (from Trees’ second album On The Shore) on the title track of their multi-million selling album St. Elsewhere.”
I’ve just had the two Trees albums playing as my wallpaper whilst I was surfing.
They were both fine but the second was a tad heavier. (It came on automatically, as YouTube does.)
Thanks, Brian. I’d never heard of the band Trees but I really liked the album. Reminded me of early Fairport Convention, which is a Good Thing. I’m also a bit of a sucker for the harpsichord in groovy music.
This album just reminds you of the crass Spotification of music now. Everything becomes shorter and “hooky” and there is no space for an album which can breathe and experiment.
Do you know of a band called Pictish Stones? That would make my night 😛
Aberlemno, ya bass!
Some more interesting stuff from the Evil Geniuses (and they are all with us)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZwubvU0hhc&t=88s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYsKI-LcEKk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5AkgOxdoT8
@Tinto Chiel
Aberlemno, ya bass!
That’s a wee village just 10 mile from where I live and I’ve never saw these Pictish stones though driven through the village numerous times.
I’m way behind you and Fred when it comes to what there is to see about Scotland and Scots history, will pay Aberlemno a visit again soonest. This time I’ll stop.
Cheers 🙂
@Lucia Daines
Thanks for the info, much appreciated 🙂
I take it they are covered in winter to stop wear and tear from the weather?
@Thepnr: I try to visit any Pictish stones I come across when I’m travelling around. Perthshire, Angus and Aberdeenshire have many of the Best ‘Uns. You’re lucky to live in such a good area for them. A lot go back to the 6th/7th/8th c. or thereabouts, although dating can be difficult. The meaning of the non-Christian symbols has never been solved so they remain an intriguing mystery.
Harvey really enjoys filling in his special I-Spy book.There’s even a couple on Skye from before the Viking invasion and a weird outlier near Gatehouse of Fleet in D&G.
Heard this while cruising along the Cadzow Corniche in the Bentley Con today and thought it perfect for the beautiful people/Brains’ Trust types wot you get on here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL5LwdQWCf8
Dunfallandy: FWOARRRRRRRRRRR!
It’s like ‘Take Your Pict” in here, is Michael Miles online?
A few questions Tinto:
1/ ” A lot go back to the 6th/7th/8th c.”: How do they travel back?
2/ “although dating can be difficult”: Do you really want to go on a date with one?
3/ “There’s even a couple on Skye from before the Viking invasion: Who are they and do they have any weans?
You’ve won tonights *Star Prize* for being stoned oot yer skull;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAbt_kzJcpM&ab_channel=TrevJones
Paul Weller: “Broken Stones”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_M8m4Yr7vc&ab_channel=paulwellertv
😎
Lucia & Thepnr,
Watch what you’re doing with that big tree hugger or the next thing you’ll know is;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqWHeofXP6Q&ab_channel=Psybrations
😉
OK…
I submitted a post around 8.35 which contained two links. Since the recent upgrade to the site, my posts have been appearing immediately – sometimes I’ve had to refresh the page – but the comments have appeared.
This one tonight seems to have disappeared so I’ll try it again, split into two parts.
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Hi Thepnr et al.
RE: (Pictish) stones.
I’m guessing you’ve never seen these ones either? They’re within the Dundee City Limits, around 400 yards to the west of the Charleston Schemie Limits.
Here’s a quote from the link below:-
“Dating from between 5300 and 4500 years ago, this is the southernmost example of a recumbent Stone Circle in Tayside. The site sign describes it as having one non-recumbent stone with the original nine boulders remaining although damaged by weather and vandalism (the latter being the reason for the surrounding fence nowadays, although the gate was not locked in September 2012 permitting access to the circle). Jade fragments and flints have been recovered from this site and are in the National Museum of Scotland.
“
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=646
OK…
WordPress, or the filters on this site, don’t seem to like Google Maps links or tiny urls.
What to do? Will this comment appear?
@Brian Doonthetoon
yep, your correct I’ve never seen them either. I’m surprised though that you never mentioned the Nine Maidens. I saw they stones once when tattie picking 🙂
@Smallaxe
Hope to see you soon buddy, planning on visiting my daughter soon if it wouldn;t be a burden would like to drop in for a blether and a cup of tea 😉
It did. So now I’ll try the post I did but without the h-t-t-p-s at the front of the Google Maps link. If the post appears, you’ll need to highlight the link, then drag it to your tab bar and it should open.
——————————————-
Hi Thepnr.
I even tried posting the link without the h-t-t-p-s at the front of it but the map link was always rejected, as was a tiny url I did of it. It’s annotated on Google Maps, if you look just to the west of Charleston and zoom in.
Thepnr,
No problem, just let me know when as I’ve got a few hospital appointments in the pipeline and I would hate to miss the chance of a wee blether with you.
Talking Heads: “This must be the place”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JccW-mLdNe0
🙂
Hi Thepnr.
I’ve never heard of the nine maidens’ stones. The stone that has always been associated with the nine maidens legend is the Balluderon Stone.
There are some pics at this site, and a map showing where it is.
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=7162
More info on the legend here:-
http://angusfolklore.blogspot.com/2015/08/martins-stone-and-nine-maidens-and.html
I had a couple of pics taken by Pete the Camera, on my now defunct ‘Doon The Toon’ web site. You can see one of them here:-
http://web.archive.org/web/20040705115701/http://www.doonthetoon.ukf.net:80/requests/requests02.htm
Hi Thepnr et al.
Maybe you didn’t know this?
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=7170
Maybe worth a vist, next time you’re ‘doon the toon’…
8=)
Smallaxe, your questions are so acute and profound, I will have to muse thereon and revert.
Still thinking about no.2 actually. 😛
I’m sure most of the ladies will be able to tell you about neolithic dates.
This is just for cearc:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e0qYP_PTlY
Hotlegs soon changed their name to 10cc. Their original handle referred to the habit of drunken fans urinating against their neighbours at Anfield.
The origin of the term “10cc” is too delicate a manner to discuss at this hour in front of Laydees.
It’s a good job the gentlemen on here are refined and cerebral, innit?
Brian, thanks for the info on Martin and the Nine maidens. I will re-read it all today.
Tinto,
I see that you had a barbeque last night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYBNoFcvcWI&ab_channel=Tobar
🙂
@Brian Doonthetoon
The Balluderon Stone is the one I have seen and associated with the story of the Nine Maidens.
I used to go for a pint there every Saturday with my father in law. The Nine Maidens pub in St Marys that is not the site of the stone 🙂
FFS! I am so done with MT right now and bizarrely it has fuck all to do with yoon trolling.
Think I’ll take an extended commenting holiday from Wings and just read for a bit.
Macart,
Good to see you on O/T Sam, give yourself a rest and…
“Take it easy”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSScV6Rt_6s&ab_channel=ReginaC%C3%B4rtes
😉
Hey Rev, i tried the quiz thing you mentioned. It looks like I am a Left wing populist,anti Trumper like Julio Igleses. I’ll live with that.
@Smallaxe
Believe me, I spend quite a bit of time on O/T these days. I just don’t comment and enjoy clicking on the cool music links. 🙂
Also? Let’s me know that friends are ok.
@Macart
Yep, we all get like that now and again. I was ready to give up posting a few weeks back and not because of the trolls.
I can never tell whether or not I’m wasting my time and possibly even making things worse. You never do though and are always a calming influence and a positive voice.
Take a break but haste yeh back as you would be sorely missed and there is no reason at all that Wings could not be overrun just as many newspaper comment sections have.
Maybe it’s all in my imagination and Wings is under no threat but for a long time now I’ve tried to remain positive and if necessary don’t mind having a disagreement or two. I think it’s fine for others to have opinions that differ from mine, would be strange if they didn’t such as the timing of the next referendum.
Having opposing views and stating them can bring you grief and that grief is felt but is the honest thing to do.
So I think I know how you might feel at times as I can feel much the same. Whatever you do, I’d hate to see you abandon Wings for good so please come back. Your voice is very much respected and needed.
‘Also? Let’s me know that friends are ok.’
You have one of these, Sam;
“Heart of Gold”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3IA6pIVank&ab_channel=NeilYoung-Topic
Peace, Love and Independence for all of us, the sooner the better.
BBQ, Smallaxe? Possibly.
I remember talking to a charming young lady from Gondwanaland and then it all got a bit hazy.
As you say, Sam, sometimes it’s “our” posters who get your goat the most. You yourself always avoid making it personal and show real compassion and the longer view in your comments.
Sometimes you just have to take step back from the keyboard and go and hug a therapeutic Pictish stone. Think your closest is Trusty’s Hill.
Here’s some music from Vangelis who is now a 75 year old. I doubt the music will ever get old, just as Mozart doesn’t age.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSav51fVlKU
Mozart:
The Queen of the night from…
Die Zauberflöte
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuBeBjqKSGQ&ab_channel=RoyalOperaHouse
My droogs and I prefer a bit of the old Ludvig Van…
Beethoven 9th symphony 4th movement;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQCQRLA05AA&ab_channel=felip989
Tick Tock
😎
@Smallaxe
I’ve long suspected it but you have confirmed this afternoon that you are an absolute nutter! LOL
Never judge a book by it’s cover, here’s someone that can play the piano.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJJi5GJno_c
This might be a 21st century version of a female Motzart or Beethoven.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvECZ_ZXGqs
I am something of a musician also, I’ll have you for to know! Every night I wait until my wife has fallen asleep, and, as she sleeps with her mouth open, I pick up my guitar, stick a harmonica in her mouth and kid on that I’m Bob Dylan! 🙂
I also used to play the piano as you will see from this old home movie of mine;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9nO9Ro_kd4&ab_channel=showmanlee
That was before I grew my beard.
🙂
@Macart
Here’s one for you, totally random mind 🙂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_81RWgjoGM
Feline fine;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9Hcl2zFMoU
Cats everywhere, int ther!
Hi Thepnr.
RE: Vangelis. (I recollect and digress here…)
Back in 1969, I wanted a reel-to-reel tape recorder. There was a Fidelity 4-Track in my Mum’s clubbie book at £34. But I worked out that if I went to the shop at the top of Prince’s Street/ bottom of Albert Street, that bought and sold fag coupons, I could get the same machine from the Kensitas catalogue for £17, by buying the required coupons.
This I did, then started recording Radio 1 and music TV shows, through the recorder’s mic. That’s why I remember the track I’ve linked to below. I have it on a tape in my hovelhold, recorded from my Dad’s Cossor 11-Band wireless. It’s only in the past 5 years or so that I’ve learned that it was by ‘Aphrodite’s Child’, a Greek band that featured both Vangelis and Demis Roussos (on bass and vocals).
It’s the kind of song that you think, ‘where did that come from?’, because it sounds like you’ve heard it before. Vangelis seemed to have a talent for that. While you’re listening to “Chariots of Fire”, sing the words of that Alexander Brothers classic, “These are my mountains”. Vangelis had obviously heard it!
Onnyhoo, here’s Aphrodite’s Child from 1969.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zezVBsfmBQ
And to help you out, here’s Tom & Jack…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgp5fd0-StI
And here’s Tom and Jerry;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRJdPM0TRJQ
Who thought…
😉
How’d a thunk it? Demis Roussos and Vangelis from 1969! You get 10/10 for that one Brian 🙂
Loved the story too about the Kensitas coupons, I remember that shop well, Kensitas coupons were better than the rest, not only were they on better paper but you get 10 in a pack of twenty and 5 in a pack of ten hahaha.
@Smallaxe
That’s a 10/10 as well for Tome & Jerry haha very good.
I got a kicking for posting my dads football coupons in a box stamped ‘Post Your Daz Coupons Here!’
“The Coupon Song”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcHl9d_Oh1g
Ah wis in right soapy bubble, soawis.
@Smallaxe
I lived in a tenement in Easterhouse in the 60’s and around 1964 or 1965 an OXO woman was in our street giving money away to households that used Oxo’s.
She was in the tenement next door when my mum got wind of this so she put me out the back windae to go to the shops which were right next door to buy a box of 12 beef Oxo cubes and a box of 12 Chicken Oxo cubes.
These were in the days that you bought Oxo cubes as singles and nobody ever had a box but you got more money as a prize for a box and even more for Chicken cubes.
So a couple of minutes later I climb back in the kitchen windae as the back and the Oxo woman has been at the door already for about a minute while my mum prenteded to saerch for the Oxo’s LOL.
I hands them over and she gallantly presents them to the Oxo woman, “Ah fund them, here yir are” two unopened packets of 12 cubes of beef and chicken Oxo’s was presented.
We were immediately disqualified and accused of cheating! There was hell in the street, riots went on for days as we’d been robbed of a couple of bob that was rightfully ours.
True story that, well apart from the riots 🙂
Thepnr,
Ah ripped a lump oot the back ae ma troosers and ma maw put black boot polish oan ma arse and telt me naebody wid notice!
True!
“Poor Boy Blues” Chet Atkins & Mark Knopfler;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErCSU7cmHnU&ab_channel=ItsWaldo%28WalterBrinkman%29
The guid aul’ days ma black arse!
🙂
I’m so glad I decided to pop back into Off Topic yesterday, I have had a grin on my face all day.
Some good stuff and sometimes you’ve just gotta laugh, how about “mochart drawers” 🙂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EpyPymnCIM
This short clip of someone getting their comeuppance is good and well deserved.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or6CwOyx30I
I know you’re all alert readers so you won’t miss the subliminal message on the sign at the start of the clip lol.
Clatty Bella isn’t so funny;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IEOYU8M4mU&ab_channel=ClattyBella
I’zat big Treeza’s real name?
George Ezra: “Shotgun”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAiVsqfbn5g&ab_channel=GeorgeEzraVEVO
“Shotgun” Jr. Walker & The All-Stars;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI7CtxlisCk&ab_channel=PACHUCO105
“Shotgun Wedding” Roy C
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkVLhZklVdc&ab_channel=TONYNORTHEASTERN
That went with a bang!
Eddie Floyd: “Knock On Wood”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kceiks__PsE&ab_channel=englishnbloodyproudo
Too much banging and knocking in here, the neighbours will be complaining. As usual!
😉
One thing I’ve never been and that is a music “snob”. By that I mean that anything “pop” must be no good and only certain music is good if it suits their particular tastes.
Well bollocks to that, I like some pop, I like some reggae, I like some punk and I even like some Mozart or Tchaikovsky!
I was 13 when I heard Tchaikovsky at school in a music lesson it was the 1812 Overture and that was my introduction to classical music. I’ll admit I liked the bangs and the drums but then I found Beethoven through this in the 70’s and was hooked.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgcKhqlFz4Q
@Smallaxe
My last post was to you as I know I played George Ezra as one of my top ten not so long ago. I played the wrong song though as I couldn’t remember the one I wanted to play which was the one I played on Off Topic when I was sitting in a bar in Baku and was the first time I’d ever heard the guy.
In fact i didn’t know who it was singing and had to go look it up before I posted it here, I think it was this one 🙂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4ifSrE8iSg
Good tae see the auld threid back in action & eclecticism isnae deid! so it isnae.
Thanks’ for the tunes, Pnr, let’s have a wee bit of class now…
Mireille Mathieu: “La Vie en Rose”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW-pS4JEhkc&ab_channel=mireillemathieuVEVO
Nae slabberin’ at the back!
Luvly, i’nt she.
😎
Mmm, yes, classical music. It was doing very repetitive and fast arpeggio exercises that gave me RSI turn of the century which meant I had to pack up my previous working life – that and too much UseNet! I thought it was good I kept going till my wrist and fingers burned, good strengthening stuff. Ooopsie!
It was trying to really master this (and the likes of the fast bits in the Appassionata and others) that made me dun it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV7RkEL6oRc
My kids called me the mad professor 🙂
Have a look at this lineup…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OYkWSW7u4k&ab_channel=grantwoolard
1) Mozart Eine Kleine Nachtmusik K525 0:01
2) Haydn Symphony 94 “Surprise” II 0:01
3) Beethoven Symphony 9 IV (Ode to Joy) 0:06
4) Mendelssohn Wedding March in Midsummer Night’s Dream, second theme 0:06
5) Dvorak Humoresque No.7 0:13
6) Wagner Lohengrin, Bridal Chorus 0:13
7) Tchaikovsky Piano Concerto 1 0:19
8) Saint-Saens Carnival of Animals: Swan 0:19
9) Bach Well-Tempered Clavier Book 1 Prelude 1 0:19
10) Tchaikovsky 1812 Overture 0:29
11) Bach Cello Suite No. 1 0:32
12) Mendelssohn Song without Words “Spring” 0:33
13) Schubert Ave Maria 0:40
14) Schubert Symphony 8 “Unfinished” 0:46
15) Verdi “La Donna è Mobile” in Rigoletto 0:51
16) Boccherini String Quartet in E, Op.11 No.5, III. Minuetto 0:55
17) Beethoven für Elise 1:03
18) CPE Bach Solfeggietto 1:04
19) Paganini Capriccio 24 1:11
20) Mozart Piano Sonata No.11 III (Turkish March) 1:15
21) Grieg Piano Concerto 1:22
22) Mozart Requiem Lacrimosa 1:26
23) Schubert Serenade 1:30
24) Chopin Prelude in C minor 1:35
25) Strauss II Overture from Die Fledermaus (Bat) 1:46
26) Brahms 5 Lieder Op.49, IV. Wiegenlied (Lullaby) 1:46
27) Satie Gymnopedie 1:56
28) Debussy Arabesque 2:00
29) Holst Planets, Jupiter 2:05
30) Schubert Trout 2:14
31) Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody No.2 2:28
32) Mozart Variation on Twinkle Twinkle Little Star 2:41
33) Schumann Op.68, No.10 Merry Peasant 2:47
34) Schubert Military March in D 2:54
35) Bach* (could be Petzold) Minuet in G 3:00
36) Mozart Piano Sonata No.16 in C, K545 3:07
37) Offenbach Can-can in “Orpheus in the underworld” 3:08
38) Beethoven Piano Sonata No.8 “Pathetique” II 3:18
39) Mozart Die Zauberflöte Overture 3:24
40) Tchaikovsky Romeo and Juliet Overture 3:31
41) CPE Bach Solfeggietto 3:44
42) Beethoven Symphony 5 “Fate” 3:47
43) Wagner Wedding March 3:52
44) Rachmaninoff Prelude Op.3 No.2 in C# minor 3:53
45) CPE Bach Solfeggietto 3:56
46) Paganini Caprice 24 4:01 ( thanks Angel33Demon666 )
47) Chopin Piano Sonata No. 2 III. Funeral March 4:11
48) Williams Imperial March in Star War 4:19
49) Tchaikovsky Marche Slave 4:25
50) 46. Smetana Ma Vlast II. Moldau 4:38
51) Tchaikovsky Nutcracker – Flower Waltz (not the main theme!) 4:45
52) Borodin Polovtsian Dances 4:45
53) Strauss II Blue Danube 4:58
54) Vivaldi Four Seasons I. Spring 5:03
55) Handel Messiah, Hallelujah 5:03
56) Handel The Entrance of the Queen of Sheba 5:08
57) Elgar Pomp and Circumstance Marches No. 1 5:15
58) Pachelbel Canon in D 5:21
59) Mozart Symphony No. 35 in D major (Haffner) K. 385, IV. Finale, Presto 5:27
60) Chopin Etude Op.25 No.9 in G flat, “Butterfly” 5:34
61) Bach Gavotte from French Suite No. 5 in G Major, BWV 816 5:42
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OYkWSW7u4k&ab_channel=grantwoolard
Wan singer wan song!
🙂
@yesindyref2
Space Invaders for geniuses?
@Smallaxe
Fuck off LOL 🙂
@Thepnr
Just got to remember to count to 22 🙂
Off I have fucked;
“Dreaming in Paint”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty60esyxeF4&ab_channel=PortalLaJornadaBC
G’night, all.
😉
Here’s a funny thing, this song must be one of my top ten because I’ve posted it here more than any either but I didn’t include it.
I know Smallaxe will like it as it has a bit of a reggae theme and I know Ian Brotherhood will like it because he’s the one in the suit. Just kidding Ian but I do think of you when I watch this 🙂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUNTk5xsxk4
An mi sey nuh like Jamaica oh no mi luv har nuh like Jamaica oh no mi luv har oh yea yuh nuh waak through har words yuh get to show sum respect yuh nuh waak thru har words’Cause yuh nuh hear har out yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcRDTk1NeN0&ab_channel=Rasta1966
Mi a guh bed now.
Rastafari!
This seems appropriate somehow (sorry about the long URL)
https://www.google.com/search?q=vulture+cartoon+waiting+i%27m+going+to+kill+somebody&client=firefox-b-ab&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=jF-bQQdBslqjBM%253A%252CASyOj4KNx6XLiM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kQ5NikLjT8dsfajkO5jkD5BEF9AIQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwip–f73ubeAhWMLMAKHVKMC1QQ9QEwAHoECAUQBA&biw=1027&bih=891#imgrc=fzS6_MD3hvaCyM:
@yesindyref2
Where do you fit in? Vulture on the left or a vulture on the right?
@Thepnr
Both! It’s very confusing, no it isn’t.
OK I’ll let you off, stuck in the middle is fine with me 🙂
Changing tack completely…
Here’s a wee poser for yooz. Can anyone post a link for Google Maps, that shows the Glasgow Subway maintenance depot clearly?
I know where it is and I find the whole concept fascinating. There are even videos on YouTube that show Subway trains above ground.
Time for bed, typed Zebedee…
I feel like this, this morning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZreAq0beEfM
Brian, for Subway info’ try,
https://urbanglasgow.co.uk & http://www.hiddenglasgow.com/
Hi Fred.
I submitted this comment around 12-14 minutes ago and it hasn’t appeared. Mind you, it did have a Google Maps link. Here it is without the link.
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Thanks. I eventually found it on Google Maps – I was looking between the wrong two stations and had it in my mind it was north of the Clyde. It’s actually just to the south of Govan subway station. The tracks to and from it are spurs off the tracks between Govan and Ibrox subway stations.
You can see it on Google Maps (the satellite has captured two trains).
Since my last trenchant apercu from yesterday is still in moderation (?), this is a tester:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZQxH_8raCI
This is very nice from James Taylor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzHg_WF-_lI
Hi, Peeps,
Tom Petty: “You Don’t Know How It Feels”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TlBTPITo1I&index=36&t=0s&list=WL&ab_channel=tompetty
I know how it feels.
😉
Tinto says:
‘trenchant apercu’
Wis thon fir yer tea or whit and dae they sell them in Aldi’s?
“I Eat Cannibals”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTvdjlJUO8A&ab_channel=Elconquistador69too
Jist wee wans.
🙂
The Byrds: “Wild Mountain Thyme”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEwqhaikDmg&ab_channel=TheByrdsVEVO
There’s heather and thyme and stuff in it, I think it’s a recipe.
😉
Our (English and Chelsea supporter – he wears the kit on his days off) neighbour here in Englandshire, so his natural habitat, is having some building work done. To identify his heap of sand, the (English) builder has stuck a large St George’s flag in the middle of the pile.
Is he not aware of how unsafe anything built on sand is? Or is this just a metaphor of the current situation in Englandshire?
Yours, aye.
@Smallaxe: when I was young and lovely and somewhat distracted by these Laydees’ gyrations, I thought they were singing about cannon-balls so I got rather confused.
Not a great way to lose weight, imho.
There’s something wrong with the Glesca subway: Merkland Street has disappeared and the original Kelvinbridge portal to other dimensions has been sealed up.
I speak as a concerned rate-payer.
This is Nice…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37T_28eXX-o&ab_channel=AlankoDonnet
He plays well with his organ. Ooh, Matron!
😉
Going underground, Tinto? The public wants what the public gets, ratepayer or not!
The Jam: “Going Underground”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE1ct5yEuVY&ab_channel=TheJamVEVO
Tinto the Troglodyte’s got a nice ring to it, ye think?
Quite so, Smallaxe: I’m second from the left on the cover.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qHX493bB3U
Smokin’!
Smokin’, me tae!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2hXBf1DakE&ab_channel=nothinking4meman
She was there a minute ago!
Just herbal fags for me, ta fanks’
😉
The Stranglers: “Always The Sun”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYQTL-ws6p4&ab_channel=thestranglerstvVEVO
Just as well. I howl at the moon quite often.
Schroedinger’s wummin wiv the great Colin Blunstone: chust sublime, old mole.
I’ve played this afore and I’ll play this again for its pure peotry, then go out and thrash myself with birch twigs:
“Death keeps a-knocking
Souls are up for auction,
Ain’t no use in praying,
That’s the way it’s staying baby.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3ZCZjhjguA&list=RDZ3ZCZjhjguA&start_radio=1
Five minutes ago, I submitted a rather long comment (but short compared to Ken500!) about Glasgow tunnels, which hasn’t appeared. It contained only 3 links and none of them was to Google Maps. I’ll try to find a workaround…
Stranglers, is it?
A song for Tony Blair and pals:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5UfE2BbYSQ
M. Burnel and his distinctive twangy bass…..
That song wis quite durty, Tinto. You’ll get intae…
“Trouble”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3pltmw6cmI&ab_channel=skinnythin
Brian Doonthetoon is loast doon a tunnel, he’s in…
Dire Straits;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HUfFtCHEzk&ab_channel=edsonguedes
Hang on Brian, we’re on our way.
😉
I tried again, stripping the prefixes from the links…
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So, I’ll try again… Tell you what; I’ll describe something I’ve found works, when peeps leave off the h-t-t-p(s)// and w-w-w. from pasted links.
What I do is highlight the entire supposed link (making sure there are no spaces at either end) then click-hold on it and drag it to the tab bar. An indicator usually appears, so I let go the mouse button and the “linked” page usually appears. I’ll try that with the comment I submitted around 7.45pm.
—————————
So I did – and the comment didn’t appear! Is it just me? I will do something else. I may be some time.
“Durty”? I’m sure I don’t know what you mean…..
I prefer the term “hard-edged”. I pass over the infamous Primal Scream groupies-and-chocolate-fountain incident somewhere in Fife.
RLM has quite a voice, hasn’t he? Mind you, you haven’t heard me in the shower.
@BDTT: there’s gremlins on here. You should try accessing some of these old lines via the former Botanical station up to Kirklee.
Spooky!
Tracy Chapman & Eric Clapton: “Give Me One Reason”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIXh0JNvuHs&ab_channel=TracyChapmanOnline
I didnae hiv a reason fir playin’ that!
🙂
That’s just the way I roll.
Spooky, Tinto. I’ll give you Spooky…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEX6VYfkHXI&ab_channel=AndyLeigh
BOO!
Ye feart?
“Tin Soldier” Small Faces;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vWTtx_PxPo&ab_channel=xJayWalkerx
Jist ’cause a like it.
🙂
Sam Cooke: “Bring it on Home to Me”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3ncYwtsQWY&ab_channel=SamCookeVEVO
Good that, wintit!
Yup, great track, Smallaxe but a weird combo when you fink about it, TC’s fantastic soul voice and English Mod R&R.
I love this old one: crocodile-skin shoes and fitted hippy jackets. If you have buns (!), prepare to shed them now….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14ViwvgtvbA
Anyhow, off to strip some lead so laters, haters.
Hi Smallaxe.
“Tin Soldier”. When they did that on ‘Top of the Pops’, the female singer was Madeleine Bell.
RIGHT!
For Tinto Chiel, Fred, and anyone else interested.
I think I’ve solved the problem of non-appearing comments. I’ve got some web space so I’ve pasted the missing comment there, along with the follow-up(s) I was gonna post.
You can find it here:-
https://sites.google.com/site/webgaffer/home/glasgow-tunnels
WAY-HEY!!! Cookin’ beh gas!
*Puts down lead-cutters and removes mask*
Wow! great stuff, Brian. Thanks for all that. Will descend into the darkness now to meet Enki and Gilgamesh…..
Hi Brian,
Steve Marriot wrote the song, it was on the album ‘Ogdens’ Nut Gone Flake’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCjrF2wWuSg&ab_channel=SoundSpectrum68
Hi Smallaxe.
I have that album on vinyl…
In 1967, when me and my cousin were Saturday night regulars at the Skyline Bowl in Dundee (which became ‘The Bowlin’ Alley’, the students’ union of Dundee Institute of Technology, now Abertay University, where I was DJ for 11 years), I recall the most played songs on the Juke Box during the summer of ’67 were,
Baby You’re A Rich Man, Beatles,
Itchycoo Park, Small Faces,
See Emily Play, Pink Floyd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns4fR7tw2DA
Sorry for the delay, Brian. Mrs Smallaxe came back from a ‘Black Friday’ sale (on a Thursday?) and my bank account is probably in the RED! She says hello and asked me to play this first track from 1967;
Lulu: “To Sir with Love”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8-M_wg8AI4&ab_channel=EdwardKemp
Van Morrison: “Brown Eyed Girl”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfmkgQRmmeE&ab_channel=VanMorrisonVEVO
Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell: “You’re all I need to get by”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdqtmnd2T0U&ab_channel=gabachito88
Goodnight All.
🙂
@ Smallaxe, for shame! that will be the Lulu who appeared on a platform with Molly Weir supporting Maggie Thatcher!!!
@ Brian, the Central Station tour is braw, Paul Lyons patter is first class! Wear jodhpurs & carry a riding crop to deter rodents. Didn’t get onto the roof as it was snawy! He plans to open up a blocked arch & get a loco & coach doon there!
@Smallaxe, Thepnr, TC, BDTT et al (whoever he is) –
Trying to catch-up on all this OT ‘busyness’ – fuckin blimey!
Plenty of brain-food right here, it’ll take me a while, and not just a ‘wee while’…
Smallaxe, thanks so much for the Freak Bros link, it would never have crossed my mind to look for it on YT, but it’s brilliant that someone went to the bother of doing all that. Must’ve been very laborious and many will say ‘Why bother?!’ but that material is valuable.
Lots of stuff happening here on the home-front so I haven’t been able to keep-up, but this is just a swift one to tell y’all I love youse as my own kin.
More power tae us all!
😉
Work for Peace!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQIwIWfs7TY
Fred, for shame?
I honoured my good lady’s request to play a song that she first heard and loved, I may add, when she was just a maiden of 12 tender years in the leafy suburbs of Bridgeton, Glasow.
The shame is yours, sir, I have not informed my good lady of your boorish remark as this would only serve to upset her delicate disposition.
I must though, insist on your immediate and sincere apology otherwise I will have my second contact you to make the necessary arrangements in order for me, as a gentleman, to extract my satisfaction on the duelling field.
Sincerely yours,
Smallaxe
What Ian Brotherhood said last night. Aye http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv9cWgkpI
@BDTT: some really good photos and information on that site: fanx. The old staircase almost lost under the rubbish of the ages is quite an image. That bit of mosaic flooring near Bridgeton is very fine and must have been expensive originally.
Re the Central Hotel above the station, has anyone heard the urban legend type-of-story of the discovery of a room in its upper stories apparently fitted out as some kind of torture chamber, complete with nasty stains?
Michael McCabe: time you got back on here spinning your classy platters.
Smallaxe, I’ve been anticipating a whitewashed Lulu backing independence a la Connolly, but didn’t expect it from yourself. I have met Mrs Smallaxe however & wouldn’t upset her for the world so Pax Vobiscum kid!
Hi Tinto Chiel.
At the link below, scroll down to…
“The third strange thing: Off a small attic room is a closet under the eaves – only 4 feet high. It has been carefully lined with very sharp razor blades pushed quite firmly into the wall:”
http://catchingphotons.co.uk/blog/miscellaneous/central-hotel/
Great stuff, Brian: thanks for rooting all that out. The comments btl are rather unsettling, despite the “art installation” explanation.
In the film “The Maggie”, the American character played by Paul Douglas “stays” at the Central Hotel and is pictured coming out of the corner entrance. Scotland hardly figured in films in those days and the Glasgow street and river scenes and the West Coast footage were very memorable for me when I eventually saw the film on TV in the 80s.
President Kennedy was also a guest at the Central!
BDTT- thanks for that link.
Never knew Bob Hope, Roy Rogers & Trigger ever came to Glasgow.
(Three of my childhood favourites)
On another note anyone recommend a good book on James Douglas ‘Black Douglas’. Cheers
Went to a si-fi convention at the Central in the mid 80s, loads of people dressed up (not me). Highlight for me was the wizard of speed and time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoLhLn9hVkE
but of course there was the participation event
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umj0gu5nEGs
Lot of drink involved. I was going to go back dressed up the next year but met my wife instead.
Well, she wasn’t my wife when I met her.
@yesindyref: a mental wee film 😛
Shoulda been “upper storeys” in my 9.46.
Lines have been issued.
Shinty: “The Black Douglases” by Michael Brown is interesting on the family as a whole.
If you’re ever in the Douglas (Darkest Lanarkshire) area, a visit to the family tomb in the old St Bride’s church is worth doing. You get the key from a lady living in an adjacent street (Clyde Street?).
I wouldn’t go in on your own, though, especially in midwinter.
“Oi be afeared, oi be.”
Many t hanks TC.
My pleasure.
http://www.historicenvironment.scot/visit-a-place/places/st-brides-church-douglas/
I forgot to say, Shinty, it’s free to get in if you go on expedition but you need to phone ahead.
http://www.historicenvironment.scot/visit-a-place/places/st-brides-church-douglas/
A wee bit light relief with all the shenanigans of the Empire.
As Wee Tam “never ages” Cruise is promoting another Ethan Hunt film, it would be a good time for Mr Cruise to highlight the curse that is Prostate Cancer.
Mibees even make a promo for it.
“Pishin Impossible.”
Hi peeps.
A wee bit more on Botanic Gardens Station.
Came across some videos yesterday. I won’t post the individual video links; rather, I’ll post a link to my search, then you can select what you want to watch.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Glasgow+abandoned+underground+station
Following on from that, I found these:-
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvWERMxrePNZ2vsRSNXOCCQ
http://www.abandonedscotland.com/explores/
According to Fred, I should be ashamed of myself for playing a song that my wife likes, quote: “Smallaxe, I’ve been anticipating a whitewashed Lulu backing independence a la Connolly, but didn’t expect it from yourself.”
As I have neither the energy nor the inclination to research the politics of every singer, songwriter or band member who’s songs I may play on O/T, I extend my heartfelt thanks and good wishes to all the good friends that I have been in contact with here, at marches and in my own home over the past few years.
I hope to be around to meet some of you again when we gain our independence, until then, goodbye my friends.
I wish you all Peace, Love and happiness, now and in the future.
It’s been fun up until now.
Fred, you can crawl up my arse and fling shite at yourself!
“Messin’ With the Kid”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjYw1Sfv7fE
Hi there Smallaxe my friend. I would just like to say that I have enjoyed reading your posts and listening to the wide and varied music you have posted on Wings. And I have had the great pleasure of meeting you. If you ever want to get in touch the Thepnr has my email address and my phone number. Phone would be best as I hardly ever use email. Anyway all the best my friend. Peace and love always. ? ? ???????
Smallaxe, the Lulu thing was tongue in cheek, will leave it at that!
Hi Mr Smallaxe, hope is well, have a wee listen to James Kirby on you tube, you and I seem to have the same musical tastes, I think this guy is a gem of a musician.
Check out his website jameskirbymusic.com
Hi Smallaxe.
I did think that Fred’s comment about Lulu was on the satirical side of the fence, albeit a tad ham-fisted.
Sorry Fred.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPcGUzPiFuw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbnrDyq4rkU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6H4lM-wWLk
Some of my favourite tracks:-
Money Honey – Elvis Presley
Razzle Dazzle – Bill Haley
Blueberry Hill – Fats Domino
In The Heat of The Night – Ray Charles
You Came A Long Way From St. Louis – Peggy Lee/George Shearing
I’m Coming Home Baby – Mel Torme
Rock Me – BB King
Sing Sing Sing – Benny Goodman
Sunrise Serenade – Glen Miller
Things Ain’t What They Used To Be – Duke Ellington
All The Time In The World- Louis Armstrong
Route 66 – Nat King Cole
Unforgettable – Tony Bennett
Take 5 – Dave Brubeck
The Train And The River – Jimmy Giuffre
The In Crowd – Ramsey Lewis
Blue Monk – Thelonius Monk
Bags Groove – Modern Jazz Quartet
More to Come.
gus1940@4.16
You forgot, Groovin with Mr Bloe, by Mr Bloe.
My late father in law loved this, and got me into it.
gus1940
What a Wonderful World-Joey Ramone.
This really needs to be read and spread. 🙂
https://weegingerdug.wordpress.com/2018/11/25/a-scottish-reply-to-theresas-letter/
/Folds arms, Blocks exit and stares at Sma
“Whaur the bloody hell dae ya think your going? Back Inside.
You ken fine well this is the quintessential “Hotel California”
You can check out any time you like but, you can never leave.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqPtz5qN7HM
You are the beat that gives Aff- topic it’s heart. Withoot you – might as well close it doon. Ehm sure Fred never meant anything by it.
Much love and respect tae ya brother – now get back inside. Nane o yir pish. Wir needing a DJ 🙂
Out of many, one people.
You go away for a few days RnR …
Smallaxe ma friend. Is it that time again? Be well brother.
Sorry Sma. I was being insensitive. I thought you were leaving because you were upset about what Fred had said. I meant the above post with the best of intentions. I understand that you might have to leave for your own reasons and promise to keep in touch through other channels.
All the best for now.
Breaking news, the real deal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4m_ajuNmSA
Ah feck it, Rev’s busy putting his computer together and I missed my chance from the National headline: “All eyes on Sturgeon as SNP figures call for indyref2 push” so yrtis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYtGl1dX5qI
Bring the action
When your hear us in the club
You gotta turn the shit up (x3)
When we out of the club
All eyes on us (x3)
See the Tories in the club
They watching us (x3)
Everybody in the club
All eyes on us (x3)
I wanna scream and shout and let it all out
And scream and shout and let it out
(etc.)
You are now now rocking with
Mike Russell and Nicola bitch
A wee heads up folks, did you know our Ian Brotherhood is an artist.
A link
https://brotherhoodart.com/blogs/news/new-work-announcement-sdx-the-scottish-design-exchange
Just popping by to check you are all OK and the place is reasonably tidy…
*glances around – shakes head*
I think we should hang one of Ian’s artworks on the wall over there.
A hard Brexit is coming indeed..
http://archive.is/RQXZy#selection-1153.27-1153.73
My life has been considerably brightened by a post from an insane American evangelist.
“Girls who m*sturbate” he avers “are doing the devil’s work “The cl*toris” he continued “is not for pleasure. It is for procreation.”
Used for personal satisfaction he insists it is “the devil’s doorknob”.
This is an expression I will carry with me forever, particularly as I go knockng up people the next time I go canvassing
Happy Birthday Nana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVLyARq0n0I
I second that emulsion: happy birthday, Nana. Hope yon husband of yours is fluffing up your pillows.
Forty can be a funny age, but.
Where would Wings be without your links?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM1qZBFiOLU
@Hackalumpoff
I’ll do my best to remain Forever Young, but have to say Brexit is taking it’s toll.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owogdFg62iw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2xODjbfYw8
@Tinto
Forty was indeed a funny age 🙂
I had thought someone would have brought me Independence for my birthday, maybe next year.
On this St Andrew’s, let’s all show a little kindness. That would be a fine present indeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvswocNN-g8
Happy Birthday Nana!
“On this St Andrew’s, let’s all show a little kindness. That would be a fine present indeed.”
A story from the Dundee Tully…
https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/fp/travelling-community-praised-for-donating-half-a-ton-of-food-to-dundee-foodbank-through-challenge/
8=)
Historical note: John Maclean, great fighter for Scottish independence, died on the morning of this day in 1923 (aged 44), his health weakened permanently by his treatment in prison.
Thanks Brian, that’s a really nice story to end the day with.
Oh sorry I’m late, Happy birthday for yesterday Nana, hope you had a good one.
Thank you Marie. I did have a nice day, however maybe a little too much cake and chocs 🙂
Had I known this was on, I’d have been there and I’m sure a lot of us Yessers would have too, had we known
https://twitter.com/FreeThinker2030/status/1068831738187657216
Maybe next year!
This is for Macart and his bad back:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fskOCTLwaCA
😛
@Tinto Chiel
Hahahahaha. LOLZ 😀
Cheers ma friend.
😛
Evening all how do we do, fun and games last night hehe, we must be getting real close to independence day now, the excitement continues. 😉
Brexit will not darken our day.
Evening, Cactus. I admire your stamina, young man.
Hi, soffisticates. These are the kinds of numbers I didn’t get in skool. Add the Fibonacci sequence and phi and the Universe becomes even more amazing.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WJhKXq2GoUY
You may have to tune out the references to God and Aliens, of course.
I’m sorry, but I’m going to play this again, things seem to be going well for a change, famous last words.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSD4vsh1zDA