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You mustn’t slip up

Posted on February 03, 2021 by

Alert readers will have noticed by now that while we were at the dentist getting rid of all our excess money, the Fabiani inquiry has published Alex Salmond’s written evidence submission, ahead of his in-person appearance currently scheduled for next week.

(Depending on whether he’s allowed to tell the truth or not, of course.)

It’s a big document, so allow us to walk you through a few of the highlights.

The submission is in unusually readable language for legal paperwork, so much of it speaks for itself. We’ll just point out a couple of things as we go.

From literally the first paragraph it’s obvious to even a casual observer that the procedure couldn’t possibly be lawful or fair. Nowhere else in the world that we know of can an employer drag a FORMER employee back in for a disciplinary process, based on rules written after they left and which they were never bound by, and it’s very difficult to imagine what authority one could ever have for doing so.

The fact that the procedure had been cooked up with the sole and deliberate purpose of being used against Alex Salmond specifically is then exposed by the fact that for no conceivably explicable reason, the rules for former Ministers were different to the rules for serving Ministers.

The next few paragraphs deal with Salmond’s repeated attempts to have the matter dealt with by arbitration, which would have protected the identities of all parties, but which were rejected out of hand by permanent secretary Leslie Evans without even consulting the two complainers.

Salmond instead sent in a general rebuttal, which was more or less ignored by the Investigating Officer, Judith Mackinnon, who sent her findings to Evans, who a month later – again without consulting the complainers, who she knew didn’t want to take their complaints to the police – gave her report to the Crown Agent, (ie to the Crown Office), who illegally attempted to pass it to the police.

(The Crown Agent is an intriguing figure. Readers may or may not place any particular meaning on the phrase “seconded to the Foreign and Commonwealth Office”.)

Pretty much every single stage in the process up to this point, then, had been completely unlawful and improper. The entire basis of the procedure was unlawful. The contacts between the Investigating Officer and the complainers were unlawful. The attempt to pass the Decision Report to the police via the Crown Agent was unlawful.

Yet there would still be more than four months of expensive bureaucracy and costly external legal advice before the Scottish Government finally conceded the matter on the eve of a judicial review, having been told by its lawyers that if it didn’t concede they would walk away.

Why? Because every day that passed without them conceding was another day that the Scottish media could continue running an endless stream of lurid, speculative stories about the allegations, cementing the image of Salmond in the public eye as an offender long before he could have any chance to clear his name.

Lots of self-explanatory paragraphs then follow about how the investigation was illegally leaked to the Daily Record on 23 August 2018 – almost certainly by someone in the Scottish Government, in order to get round an interim interdict that was planned for the next morning.

That was because if the interdict had been granted (which it would have been) then the entire purpose of the whole affair – publicly smearing Alex Salmond as a sex offender in order to prevent any possibility of him returning to frontline politics – would have been dead and buried.

The Scottish Government already knew that the unlawful procedure wouldn’t stand up to the judicial review, so the defamatory Decision Report couldn’t have been made public and nobody would ever know about the allegations. So it leaked them to the Record, in the knowledge that whatever the eventual outcome the publicity alone would probably ruin Salmond’s reputation.

Then we come to one of the more explosive passages of the submission.

The Scottish Government had claimed that the procedure was finalised and published a month before the complaints were received. The truth was that it hadn’t actually happened until a month AFTERWARDS – something Leslie Evans had initially lied about and then quietly changed in a clumsy attempt to cover her tracks.

It was also discovered that Judith Mackinnon had been in touch with the complainers TWO months before their complaints were filed, something expressly forbidden in the procedure in remarkably unambiguous terms – “no prior involvement with any aspect of the matter” – which Evans and Mackinnon nevertheless subsequently claimed to have innocently interpreted to mean “lots of prior involvement with all the key aspects of the matter is absolutely fine”.

We then come to the section that the Scottish media is mostly focusing on.

What’s interesting about that isn’t the claim itself, although that’s damning enough. What readers ought to have noticed is the phrase “we have”.

It’s well known that the Crown Office has pulled out all the stops either to withhold evidence from Mr Salmond and his lawyers entirely, or to prevent him from producing it under threat of prosecution. But this site has been told by a source very close to Alex Salmond that every single claim of material fact made in his written evidence is supported by documentary evidence that can legally be shown to the inquiry.

When she appears before the committee the following week, Nicola Sturgeon will not be able to deny any material aspect of the submission, or wave it away as a “conspiracy theory”, because every line of it is documented fact and Salmond will have produced the documents to prove it.

The rest of the submission mainly concerns the Scottish Government’s numerous and persistent attempts to conceal documents and key facts from the judicial review, and again speaks eloquently for itself without us needing to explain it.

But all taken together – and remember this evidence is only concerned with the judicial review, not the criminal trial – it is an incredibly damning account of conspiracy.

And while the Fabiani inquiry has been hobbled to the point of complete uselessness by Scottish Government obstruction in terms of ever actually producing any worthwhile findings – no legal advice, no Murrell-Ruddick texts, no Geoff Aberdein, no Liz Lloyd, and a whole vast catalogue of other key pieces of information withheld – the sheer theatre of Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon’s appearances, set against the backdrop of this submission’s contents, should still be quite the firework show.

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    1. Brotyboy says:

      Light blue touchpaper and retire.

    2. Hatuey says:

      Wouldn’t it be the ultimate bit of karma ever if Cherry or someone took over and used “the procedure” to go after former minister Nicola Sturgeon for all this stuff…

    3. P says:

      Fabiani though, jeez – no wonder she’s retiring

    4. David says:

      Leslie Evans has a documented history of ‘editing’ the truth.

      http://www.kidsnotsuits.com/fake-news-how-public-lies-begin/

      The above is a bit of a long read, but it shows what she’s like.

    5. Mac says:

      “…when he was seconded to the Lockerbie criminal trial team until after the trial…”

      That also caught my eye. Was that trial not a stitch-up as well. Curiously another little episode where Scottish justice system was corrupted for political ends.

    6. Scots Wumman says:

      What possible legitimate sanction could there have been, even if he had contravened the new retrospective code of conduct? Contrive to get him back into Parliament in order to “sack” him?

      Your former place of work has no authority to write a retrospective code, specifically to target you, then turn up at your doorstep with “sanctions”.
      This surely has implications for every citizen?

      Suppose you used to work in a cafe, and it was common practice for staff, including you, to take home any left-over soup at the end of the day (as a fresh batch was cooked every day).
      Years later you have opened your own, popular, cafe.
      Your former employer writes a retrospective code of conduct which forbids staff from taking home left-overs. You are reported to the Police for theft, by your former employer. They also go to the press and there are headlines “Popular cafe owner accused of theft”. Your reputation is ruined.

      Not ok. ??

    7. Socrates MacSporran says:

      When you’re in a hole, the best advice is: stop digging.

      I somehow get the impression Sturgeon, Evans & Co will simply keep digging – thus making the final cave-in that big more extreme.

    8. Mia says:

      “What possible legitimate sanction could there have been?”

      If you read the evidence submitted to the inquiry, it is very obvious that these people knew a former minister could not be disciplined under the ministerial code. They were banking on them being disciplined through their political party. In other words, they were hoping Mr Salmond would be ejected from the SNP, and I think this was their primary objective.

      It is very interesting that Mr Salmond felt forced to resign in August 2018. It was in 2018 that the grand changes in the SNP started to happen.

      The British state has its fingerprints all over this.

    9. twathater says:

      It must be so tiring and frustrating for Alex having to wait to produce his damning evidence whilst all around him Sturgeon and the corrupt media are allowed to say and print salacious lies in a continued attempt to SMEAR and DEMONISE an innocent man

      I honestly hope that when this despicable farce is over with and Sturgeon is outed publicly as the venal corrupt head of a cabal of tr aitors to Scotland AS will have a crowdfunder to sue Sturgeon and Murrell for every penny they have and DESTROY publicly her credibility to hold ANY job

    10. MaggieC says:

      I would that the boil is being slowly lanced and all the “ poison “ is now starting to leak out , Time to put a poultice on it and clean it out completely .

      Meaning of a poultice for the younger readers ,

      Poultice for abscess :
      The moist heat from a poultice can help to draw out the infection and help the abscess shrink and drain naturally. An Epsom salt poultice is a common choice for treating abscesses in humans and animals. Epsom salt helps to dry out the pus and cause the boil to drain.17 May 2019

    11. Oneliner says:

      Mr. Harvie may have to take some ‘gardening leave’ – to sort out his plants for next season.

    12. Republicofscotland says:

      The Scottish government and the Civil service has broken the law multiple times on the above, and on certain matters attempted to cover it up, as has been shown.

      Yet not one single prosecution or sacking has occurred how can that be possible, but then again we know that the COPFS and the Lord Advocate aren’t doing their jobs properly.

    13. Effijy says:

      Thank you and congratulations on such a well constructed record of
      the serial criminals that are operating in Scottish politics, Civil Service,
      Advocates Office and the Police Service.

      Each of these people must be brought to court before inevitably being sacked,
      fined and imprisoned.

      I hope that Alex can sue each and every department and person for the millions that
      he is due in compensation.

      This makes the famous true life Emile .Zola book, Je Accuse, look tame.

      I am horrified these people are still at liberty and able to continue a life of crime.

    14. Sweep says:

      @Brotyboy 4.39pm

      Or, as the Murrell’s might put it:

      Light 87-year old party and retire…

    15. Mac says:

      I honestly don’t know how anyone looking at all the information that has now been released is not compelled to the conclusion that NS was up to her bottom lip in a blatant conspiracy to frame an innocent man, former FM and perceived political rival.

      I reached that point quite some time ago where I had to say to myself, my god they really did this, it is so bloody obvious and overwhelming.

      It is not like it is few suspicious aspects. No this is literally everything, from the very inception of it all the way through to the current day. Everything is reeking of corruption and malfeasance. Every single step.

      To not accept what this site and others have been showing you for a long time now, and in the face of all the information to date, suggests to me a will to not see rather than a lck of proof.

      If everything stopped now Nicola would still be dead in the political water. She is fatally damaged goods. Everyone who looks into this properly can see what she did.

      She can weasel lawyer it all she wants and keep denying it but no one with half a brain looking at this will be fooled.

      I have never been a reader of WGD but I honestly cant understand how anyone can deny it anymore.

      Are their egos more important than their integrity. Some of them need to take a good look in the mirror because they are standing on the wrong side of history.

    16. 1971Thistle says:

      @Socrates MacSporran @19h52

      “When you’re in a hole, the best advice is: stop digging.”

      When the only thing you have is a shovel, all you can do is keep digging. It’s the Mr Micawber/Nick Leeson approach; they’re hoping something will turn up to save them.

      I doubt they believe something will, but it’s all they have available.

    17. Watty Eyeballs says:

      @Hatuey: Yep, after the process made is lawful & robust. Maybe test it out on the weakest link in the cabal first.

    18. AdamH says:

      twathater says:
      3 February, 2021 at 5:03 pm
      “It must be so tiring and frustrating for Alex having to wait to produce his damning evidence”

      I think the last 6 months have gone very well for AS (although frustratingly slowly). The first line of defence has been totally demolished by other people. Many of the lies have been exposed and many of the facts have been established. AS is now in a much better position to skewer the conspirators than he was.

      If he had appeared before the inquiry 6 months ago he would have to do all this on his own and would likely have been stopped before reaching the point he now starts from.

    19. DaveL says:

      By the time she’s due to appear I think st Nic may well be in hospital heroically fighting off a nasty dose of pandemic or heroically self isolating in a valiant attempt to save others. Big regrets she never got to tell her side to the enquiry etc etc an that.

      We’ll see.

    20. StuartM says:

      So the misconduct investigation and judicial review is supposed to be a confidential process, yet on 23rd August the Scottish Government tells Salmond’s lawyers they’re going to release a public statement about the “confidential” allegations to the press at 5pm. AS’s lawyers respond “Oh no you’re not ‘cos we’re going to get a court injunction” at which point the SG agrees to hold off pending the judge’s decision. They could hardly do otherwise since the judge would take a very dim view of them pre-empting his decision. Yet within hours someone has leaked the Investigation Report to David Clegg of the Daily Record, pre-empting the injunction anyway.

      Now who in this context is the Scottish Government? I think it can only refer to Nicola Sturgeon’s office and if so the leaker had to be someone who had access to the report and also knew almost immediately that an injunction was imminent, plus had connections to David Clegg. Could that person be Ms H of “I have a plan” fame, seemingly the orchestrator of the Gang of 9 and who falsely accused Alex of rape at a time and place when she definitely wasn’t there?

      The proposed press release and subsequent leak show that the SG was determined to smear Alex from the get-go and not abide by the Judicial Review. They also handed Judith MacKinnon’s investigation report to police before the JR had even begun in an obvious attempt to torpedo the JR, then spun out the JR in the vain hope that the cops will charge Alex and the JR will be frozen pending the criminal trial. In the process they knowingly concealed documents and other evidence from the court and even their own barristers. No wonder the barristers refused to act further and the Judge was furious.

    21. Cath says:

      It’s interesting that promotion happened right after the Brexit vote. The precise point when Scotland’s remain and England’s leave put the union in immediate peril and made “gradualism” (actually not a bad policy up until that point if you wanted to avoid a Quebec style second defeat too early) impossible.

    22. Anon says:

      Unfortunately DaveL @ 5.22, NS has already indicated, although nor in so many words, that she will be unable to appear before the Harassment Committee. On that date in connection with Covid there will be a review and decision about the return to school of pre School and P1-3 children. So no show!

    23. David R says:

      I await the screams of Mr Salmond using his white male privilege, systemic misogyny and the patriarchy to attack these poor victims. They were doing nothing more than trying to get a toxic male thrown into jail for the crime of potentially standing in the way of the sisterhood and their plans for a progressive, feminist Scotland.

    24. 1971Thistle says:

      @Mac @17h14

      Re the WGDuggers, it is amazing how much they can discount. But when you’ve defended her through thick and thin, you can’t give up that easily.

    25. Mac says:

      I would love to see Salmond come back. I can’t think of anything more poetically just than if he came back and led Scotland to independence after everything they tried to do to him.

      I also think he is one of the few people who could actually do it. Especially now, the Alex Salmond that endured and emerged triumphant through all of this will be lot more ruthless and dangerous IMHO. The gloves will be well and truly off.

      All I hear from the same SNP wankers who never raised a voice in his defense is that AS is finished that he is the one who is damaged goods.

      Well is he fuck. People who know what really happened know that Alex Salmond was treated terribly. He could be in jail right now as an innocent man.

      So I personally cant think of anyone I would rather see come back more. I think he would get massive support, especially as the public consciousness becomes more and more aware of what really happened.

      That said I would fully understand if he was exhausted by it all. They have been attacking him relentlessly for years dragging his name through the shit at every opportunity. They are trying to grind him down and they are bastards.

    26. StuartM says:

      Artur sweet says:
      3 February, 2021 at 1:02 pm
      “I would imagine that if you want to find out how to take on the Crown Office, you should lift the phone to Ibrox.”

      Only if you have a spare 1.8 million to spend on legal fees like one of the Rangers Administrators did. BTW he lives in Cheshire not Ibrox. In Scotland we have justice for all …… who can afford it.

    27. Captain Yossarian says:

      @StuartM – He had to do it all on his own without support from anyone. Salmond is in an entirely different situation. Back then, the Crown Office were almost untouchable, not so now.

      It’s a house of cards, isn’t it. Once one goes, the house collapses. Alex is very good indeed under pressure; Nicola is not.

      This may all be over very quickly now and it will cost Alex very little. I reckon by the end of this month it could all be over.

      By the way, I wonder what percentage of readers of this website haven’t yet worked-out who alphabet woman H is? My guess….not many at-all.

    28. holymacmoses says:

      Thanks again Wings. I hope everyone who reads this retweets the link on their Twitter site. I have read the whole document and know that many will find it tedious to read. It is however, important that people do try and read as much as they can of Mr Salmond’s written testimony.
      Cheers for the hard work and don’t let the sweeties ruin your teeth:-)

    29. StuartM says:

      @Mac

      Yes, Alex and Joanna Cherry would be the dream team. Alex as First Minister to clean up the Government and Party before leading the Yes movement to Independence and Joanna Cherry as the attack dog to make the legal case for independence and draft the constitution and legal framework for an independent Scotland. Then I’d anticipate Alex retiring in a blaze of glory and handing the reins to Joanna.

    30. Muscleguy says:

      @Hatuey
      They can’t use that procedure, it’s been ruled illegal, remember? it has not be used for ANYONE other than Salmond.

    31. Breeks says:

      It’s a crazy situation.

      Given that Scotland’s Government, Civil Service and COPFS, including the Lord Advocate, are all implicated in such a despicable conspiracy, and the Parliamentary Inquiry is crippled by obstruction and vexatious redaction, who, and where do you go to in pursuit of diligent investigation and ultimately justice?

      You can’t trust UK justice for obvious reasons, but can you trust the Scottish Legal system to hold the Lord Advocate’s feet to the fire? I don’t know, perhaps you can, but would you trust their verdict if it found no case to answer?

      Who else do you approach? Irish Courts? James Hamilton QC is from Ireland but he’s already doing his Inquiry on Sturgeon.

      The Monarch? That’s game for a laugh too.

      No wonder these crooks think they’re untouchable.

    32. Elmac says:

      twathater @ 5.03pm

      I second that, but financial ruin is not enough. Sturgeon and Murrell are criminals, as are Evans, Lloyd, Wolffe and quite a few others. Take them for every penny they have and make sure they serve jail terms commensurate with what they have done.

      Let us not forget the alphabet women. The are all guilty of perjury and conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. A few may be weak willed individuals who were pressured into what they did, no doubt fearing for their jobs, but most of them also deserve to be jailed. AS should sue them as well.

      I suspect the AS lawyers will be in gainful employment for a long time to come until all of this nest of vipers finally have their comeuppance.

    33. Alan Mackintosh says:

      Stuart M, without going much further, I think we know where the leak originated, in Nicola’s office and in particular with someone who has a passing acquaintance with Davie Clegg. A la Woodford and Bernstein, his very own “Deepthroat” to coin a phrase. But I am pretty sure that Woman H, of the dinner event, is not her. For her you need to look elsewhere I would say.

    34. Kilted Splendour says:

      Excellent journalism Rev.
      It got me thinking about another journalist, namely Marrmtin Bell. He stood on an anti-corruption ticket and won a seat at Westminster.
      Do you not fancy donning a crumpled old white suit and standing in Glasgow Southside in May?

    35. Cath says:

      Yeah, I was thinking earlier, Breeks, “conspiracy theorist!” is often used to discredit people who have found inconvenient truths, or who simply don’t believe the official narrative of something. But when you have a conspiracy going this deep, and parts of it (like the anonymity orders) mean the evidence even can’t be stated by those who know it under threat of prison, then anyone trying to explain it does sound truly crazed. Once you get to the stage of “And Rape Crisis Scotland appear to be in on it too” it’s gone through the looking glass completely and you’re into the Royal Ed rather than Saughton territory. And yet…

    36. A Person says:

      Who wants to bet that all SNP election materials for this year as just photos of NS with “I’m With Nicola” daubed all over them- yet again? I would bet my left leg on it.

      A number of posters on here have highlighted that the placing of this one politician, rather than any actual ideological content- at the centre of the 2015 campaign sounded alarm bells. Well done on your prescience!

      It would be a real error to base the whole campaign on a single person if that person suddenly gets exposed as a fraud. Popularity is transient.

    37. A Person says:

      -Cath-

      This is it. It goes so deep, and the trans ideology is so utter bonkers, that when you explain it to somebody who hasn’t been reading about it, they find it literally impossible to understand. They cannot fathom- how could they?- that people actually believe this stuff.

    38. twathater says:

      @ Kilted splendour 6.02pm OH that would be ssssooooo lovely

    39. Graham says:

      What are the odds that Sturgeon announces sometime over this weekend coming, that she has contracted Covid?

    40. Jason Smoothpiece says:

      Strong smell of shite in this case.

      I cannot believe that those involved in this will not see the inside of a Police cell.

      Good to see MI5 at the verges.

      This would have made a good FICTIONAL book, but it’s feckin true.

      If they can dare to do this to a rather robust chap like Mr Salmond what chance is there for us mere proles.

    41. Sarah says:

      @ Kilted Splendour: I’d move to Glasgow Southside to get to vote for the Anti-Corruption candidate. Brilliant idea!

    42. StuartM says:

      Captain Yossarian says:
      3 February, 2021 at 5:53 pm
      “This may all be over very quickly now and it will cost Alex very little. I reckon by the end of this month it could all be over.

      By the way, I wonder what percentage of readers of this website haven’t yet worked-out who alphabet woman H is? My guess….not many at-all.”

      I wasn’t suggesting that Alex will have to spend that much again, just throwing it out as an example of how much it costs to take the Govt to court. But Alex must be seriously out of pocket already over legal fees. The 512K costs he was awarded by the JR may not have covered all his legal fees to that point and then he had the criminal trial. I noticed he complained to the Inquiry recently that he was the only witness who was having to pay for his own legal representation.

      Let’s hope the Sturrells are forced out quickly but I rather think they’ll try to hang on. It’ll take a Party revolt to dynamite them out of their seats and I have suggested that the way to force the fence-sitters to take a stand is for the ordinary members to threaten to boycott fundraising for HRE. Without money and volunteers the MSPs are toast and maybe the threat of losing their jobs will finally force them to act. But that’s got to happen NOW not after HRE when they’re sitting pretty for the next 5 years.

      As for Ms H, I’ve got my own candidate and she’s probably yours as well.

    43. Sylvia says:

      Mac @ 4:53 pm
      “Lockerbie criminal trial” Mullholland was also part of that team!

    44. zebedee says:

      I suggest posters should avoid discussing identities of alphabet women, even obliquely. Focus on other aspects, there are plenty of them.

    45. Colin Alexander says:

      Muscleguy

      Scottish Govt complaint process against Alex Salmond:

      “Judge Lord Pentland said it had been “procedurally unfair” and “tainted with apparent bias” because the investigating officer assigned to the case had had prior contact with the complainers”.*

      * http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-53805254

    46. Garavelli Princip says:

      Mac says:
      3 February, 2021 at 4:53 pm
      “…when he was seconded to the Lockerbie criminal trial team until after the trial…”

      That also caught my eye. Was that trial not a stitch-up as well. Curiously another little episode where Scottish justice system was corrupted for political ends.

      Absolutely correct. Read Iain Lawson’s superb piece on this – and comments from Boab LeCaree here:

      https://yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com/2021/02/03/you-want-justice-do-you/

    47. David Holden says:

      Let us all spare a thought during these difficult times for the hardcore Sturgeonistas who are still hoping against hope that the secret plan will be unleashed and smite the unfaithful. Don’t hold your breath you little scamps.

    48. MaggieC says:

      Re Harassment and Complaints Committee ,

      There’s another update on the written evidence page ,

      Letter from the Convener to the Lord Advocate 3rd February ,

      https://www.parliament.scot/HarassmentComplaintsCommittee/General%20documents/20210203ConvenertoLordAdvocate.pdf

      It looks like the Committee are now looking into who has been redacting the evidence etc ?? .

    49. Daisy Walker says:

      So, from the Britnats point of view, what’s their thinking / plan just now.

      What do they want first, what’ll they settle for second, what’s C and what’s D?

      Keeping NS in place to ensure Indy never gets on the Ballot box for the sweaties to vote for.

      Good, but not essential. Others can and would do the same, and might be better placed/a fresh face to sell it.

      If she goes, she must be seen to be properly rewarded, its in the rules, and its the only way they can persuade others to sell their country also.

      That might mean sacrificing one of the lesser players, but how to keep them quiet?

      I’m going to suggest the inquiry will fall into public shambles, be suspended, and calls for a Judge led enquiry (after May) become the rallying cry, due to concerns of extensive Government and Crown Prosecution Corruption.

      On the back of that, a joint Covid/Brexit/Corruption emergency will require the closing down of Holyrood to deal (temporarily) with the crisis.

      This will be particularly urgent, if ISP ever get their act together and actually put their / my money where their mouths have been and make Plebiscite Indy Election at Holyrood, their manifesto.

      Another tipping point will be if Alex, JC and the majority of SNP elected members step away from the SNP and form a new party for PEH.

      If and I think its unlikely, if May election does go ahead, their plan will be to ensure SNP + Nicla are damaged goods, still the biggest party, but not an outright majority.

      With them in place, the unionists will support them and push through the Hate Crime Bill and sites such as this will likely be unable to operate openly.

      Covid will make public protests unlikely. Brexit will continue apace, the civil service hub will take over the running and asset stripping of Scotland and Holyrood will never get back its powers.

      While we are all eyes on this, we really need to also be thinking along these lines too and wondering how we may have to get round it if it comes to it.

    50. Captain Yossarian says:

      StuartM – It’s interesting, you know, the way different countries around the world deal with this subject.

      I have worked in two semi-authoritarian countries where the civil-service work for the public. They work for the government too of course, but they have a duty to serve the public.

      What we have in Scotland, and it is exemplified by this case and all the other cases we have been taking about for the past three weeks, is institutionalised corruption designed to disenfranchise the public.

      Would it be acceptable anywhere else…in any other democratic country in the world…no, it wouldn’t.

      I expect Alex Salmond to wipe the floor with Fabiani and Baillie and for the Murrells and James Wolffe to be exiting from government shortly after.

    51. shug says:

      so is David Harvie an agent for westminster

    52. Denise says:

      I don’t think suing all in sundry is the way to go. It will just consume the rest of Alex’s life.

      The best revenge is living well.

      And if Alex wants to sort out the people that stabbed him in the back including slime balls at rape crisis and the MPs and MSPs that continue to smear him, he should get back in the game.

      He’s a spring chicken compared to the US presidents. So, return to politics get power. Sort out his enemies and of course help lead Scotland to independence

    53. Denise says:

      According to Craig Murray’s affidavit David Harvie was at the meeting with NS, Robertson, Blackford and some complainers where they discussed: how juries when there are loads of chargers will usually convict on one of them.

    54. Hugh Jarse says:

      Aunties on a full on war alert level now.
      On R4, SS hissed briefly about Eck’s written evidence, but the e news pages are fretting about evil MP’S covid travel court case, and nada about real history in the making.
      The memory hole.

      Seb swiftly follows up with “indy more expensive than Brexit” scare guff, without a hint of objectivity, and delivered with air of a tired, seasoned professional.

      The old beatch is losing her touch.

      EVEL x Brexit seems to have had unfortunate side effects.

      Maybe they’re scunnered by IB’s empty rhetoric too, and just want an end to it.
      🙂

    55. Astonished says:

      They have got to go.
      .
      And then the wokeratti MUST be expelled. Failing this you wont have a party.

    56. Republicofscotland says:

      Alex Salmond lets rip.

      “Former first minister Alex Salmond has branded the behaviour of the current Scottish Government a “disgrace”, as he warned his legal action against ministers would have cost taxpayers more than £750,000.”

      https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/alex-salmond-condemns-disgraceful-behaviour-of-scottish-government/ar-BB1dmtiy?ocid=msedgntp

    57. Hatuey says:

      Denise: “ I don’t think suing all in sundry is the way to go. It will just consume the rest of Alex’s life.”

      No it won’t. Sequencing is everything with these things and it’s a slam dunk already.

    58. Hatuey says:

      “NICOLA Sturgeon is facing a humiliating Holyrood vote unless her husband agrees to appear before the inquiry into the Alex Salmond affair.
      The Scottish Tories said that unless SNP chief executive Peter Murrell complied with a recall request, they would table a parliamentary motion on the issue.”

      https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19062890.alex-salmond-inquiry-demands-know-government-evidence-censored-political-reasons/

    59. Hatuey says:

      Apologies, wrong link above… https://archive.is/i60KM

    60. Daisy Walker says:

      @ David Holden says:
      3 February, 2021 at 6:34 pm

      Let us all spare a thought during these difficult times for the hardcore Sturgeonistas who are still hoping against hope that the secret plan will be unleashed and smite the unfaithful. Don’t hold your breath you little scamps.

      All together now..

      I’d like to teach the world to sing
      In perfect harmony
      La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la

    61. Liz says:

      What the hell was Robertson at the meeting for? Surely he was a private citizen at that point

    62. Big Jock says:

      My money is on Salmond. Blinkey might do a runner.

      It’s like Mike Tyson taking on Barry Mcguigan in boxing terms. Almost cruel…nah not really.

    63. The Isolator says:

      @ Shug

      “so is David Harvie an agent for westminster”

      What do you think?

    64. Alf Baird says:

      Captain Yossarian @ 6:53 pm

      “What we have in Scotland, and it is exemplified by this case and all the other cases we have been taking about for the past three weeks, is institutionalised corruption designed to disenfranchise the public.”

      Oppressing the people is what’s known as colonialism. Which is the main reason any people seek independence, to cast out the poison of oppression in all its forms. Independence is the only remedy.

    65. ben madigan says:

      This article’s worth reading. It’s a realistic, though rather pesimistic, view of Scotland’s fate since the SNP dumped Independence and the Independence movement

      https://randompublicjournal.com/2021/02/03/our-derailment/

    66. Republicofscotland says:

      On the Crown Agent David Harvie.

      “David joined the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service, following a spell in private practice, in 1996. He worked as a Procurator Fiscal Depute in Paisley until 1999, when he was seconded to the Lockerbie criminal trial team until after the trial, when he was promoted to Principal Depute, Aberdeen.

      In 2001 he was seconded to the Foreign and Commonwealth Office before returning to Crown Office in 2004 where he held the post of Head of the National Casework Division ”

      The FCO..hmmm.

    67. Jim says:

      I think we all owe a vote of thanks to the true hero of this affair- *Leslie Evans*

      Without her blind ambition and overwhelming desire to claim Alex Salmond’s scalp for her own, this would have never made it into open court. The complaints were never intended to stand up to any scrutiny greater than an internal inquiry/drumhead court martial. Alex Salmond could be smeared in the shadows and requests for transparency waved away as “insensitive” or “inappropriate.”
      Instead, we have the tissue of lies rent and the underlying corruption exposed from top to tail…

      Thanks Leslie

    68. Meg merrilees says:

      Surprise, surprise, it looks like they are trying to get Kenny Mac Askill now for breach of lockdown regs.

      Apparently, he moved his family to the NE before the December lockdown closed in after Christmas.

      Since then he has made two trips south for medical reasons ( which is allowed) and unfortunately picked up a set of keys from his office on the second trip.

      Will he end up in court like Margaret Ferrier? Will he be moved sideways like Catherine Calderwood or will he be suspended?
      He’ll have to be punished for defending Joanna Cherry – I mean, How could he do such a thing? Hope he’s not a bigot as well or he’ll be out on his ear. Another great talent lost!

      I guess it will be Angus MacNeil next

    69. Betsy says:

      I don’t think I’ll ever get over paragraph 20 in the submission. The arrogance of these people beggars belief, it’s bad enough to conspire to fit someone up but that they made such a sloppy job of it, presumably confident they’d never be held to account is frightening.

      It all rather begs the question what else have they been getting away with? Arrogance like that doesn’t just develop overnight, what lesser dirty deeds have they got away with that made them think they could pull this off? That points to a workplace culture that is entirely corrupt.

    70. Meg merrilees says:

      Jim @ 19.42

      But is there another reason why Leslie Evans has done what she has done? Is this all part of the cunning WM plan to create chaos in Scotland before HE in May?

      Certainly looks like that to me.

    71. Republicofscotland says:

      A little bit more on Crown Agent David Harvie, of whom one time Lord Advocate Frank Mullholland said his appointment was a good one, I’ll say no more then.

      Apart from this.

      “The Crown’s representative in Scotland is the Queen’s and Lord Treasurer’s Remembrancer (QLTR). The current QLTR is David Harvie, the Crown Agent.”

    72. DaveL says:

      https://archive.is/5H6tT

      From an American site (Verity Weekly) I know nothing of and published in April last year, it’s titled: A Close Look at Rape Crisis Scotland. Part 1.

      Part 2 is linked and published on The Duran.

      An interesting read and far from complimentary re the organisation and it’s CEO.

    73. Roddy Macdonald says:

      Jeezo, Kevin McKenna doesn’t miss the pan and hit the wa’ in the National.

      https://archive.vn/BQxBV

      The public might not care as much about standards in public life as the political classes purport to but they know what “taking the piss” looks like. And Nicola Sturgeon, Peter Murrell, Leslie Evans, several special advisers, more than a few MSPs and a gaggle of £100k-plus civil servants now all stand accused of taking the piss. Big time.

      Sturgeon’s video in support of transgender rights could also be filed under “taking the piss”. In so doing, she effectively encouraged misogynistic aggression against several of her party’s female members by painting a target on their back over transphobia.

      One of them, Joanna Cherry, consistently outshines Sturgeon’s acolytes and the collection of bottom-feeders who somehow made it on to the SNP’s candidates list.

    74. Feliks says:

      Denise

      Craig Murray’s affidavits do not list those present at that meeting. Where did you glean that information?

    75. Captain Yossarian says:

      @Betsy – TSN2019 – has contributed to this site a number of times in recent weeks.

      The Scottish Government and all of Scotland’s public bodies have been fitting-up innocent, profesional school teachers with bogus charges for the past 2 or 3 years.

      It’s become a delinquent government. Better to close it down for a time. I reckon Nicola Sturgeon is shitting herself just now – she’ll be anxious to keep her liberty intact after all of this.

      Her legacy is already an embarrassment for all of us.

    76. JSC says:

      Liz says:
      3 February, 2021 at 7:27 pm
      What the hell was Robertson at the meeting for? Surely he was a private citizen at that point

      For a jam sandwich

    77. Dean Clark says:

      I wouldn’t expect the crown office to be prosecuted any time soon. I was reading the court documents from October when the locherbie bombers son launched an appeal. One of the 3 reasons he gave was essentially corruption from the crown office… Lady Dorians reply was that the crown office or any individual in the crown office can not be corrupt because for them to be corrupt would be detrimental to any cases they had prosecuted.. Ergo, it can’t be grounds for an appeal. How can someone be prosecuted when rather than a trial starting with presumed innocence, it starts with ‘it is impossible for the defendent to be guilty’.

    78. Meg merrilees says:

      Adam H @ 5.22

      As far as Alex is concerned, yes this has gone slowly but it has given him plenty of time to work out his best strategy and I think it is a case of – never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake!

      Now, ‘he’s holding their feet to the fire’ something he manged to do in WM for many years.

      Consummate tactician.

    79. Ottomanboi says:

      INNOCENT, actually not so innocent branch of CocaCola Corp, doesn’t just rot your teeth with its smoothies, rots the brain too.
      https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/02/03/drop-the-woke-nonsense-innocent/

    80. Anonymoose says:

      I wonder just how much evidence and statements given under oath which the enquiry already has and have today, under Alex Salmonds written evidence and appendices, been shown to be unlawful documents.

      Appendices 1,2 and 3 stike off quite a bit of submitted evidence and testimony given under oath as unlawful.

      Could those who created such documents and gave such testimony to the fact be brought up on further charges, perjury perhaps?

    81. T.C. Nu says:

      MaggieC@6:43 pm
      Re:
      https://www.parliament.scot/HarassmentComplaintsCommittee/General%20documents/20210203ConvenertoLordAdvocate.pdf

      I’m particulary intrigued by


      ‘…Finally on this matter, as noted above, the Committee has now received records from the Scottish Government on all four phases of its inquiry and would appreciate confirmation from you that there are no further records the Scottish Government is aware of that are not being provided to this inquiry that the Government is in a position to share.

      It looks bland, but, considering recent developments, reading this another way, one wonders if, perchance, a somewhat juicy still occulted document or two have mysteriously fallen from the tree into their hands and they’re now playing games.

      I’m assuming that there are now people in play who are either

      a. Agents of the UK state, out to cause further mischief.

      b. People who are now looking to the future…’You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.’ and that wind’s blawin gey cauld..

      So I’m sure the old ‘folder left accidentally in corridor ploy’ is now an active possibility, this folder having big red letters on it saying ‘AS – Little Nicky’s Super Secret Stuff – do NOT read’

    82. Alan Mackintosh says:

      Liz, you ask why Robertson was there. Once you understand he has a role in this and that he seems to be the chosen one, re the Edinburgh stitch-up, you can view that getting him back in to a Holyrood seat would be a reward. A reward for what you might ask…? I’m afraid I cannot say…

      But he is not an innocent bystander.

    83. Craig Murray says:

      Dean Clark are those documents online? Could you give a link? Otherwise can you tell me how yo get to see them?

    84. Daisy Walker says:

      Captain Youssarian re your comments about Holyrood, ‘ Better to close it down for a time.’

      Would you mind awfully stopping with that line of argument.

      We don’t want Holyrood shut down, we want Holyrood fully functioning with an Indpendent Scottish Government operating within.

      You don’t fix corruption by shutting down the institutes that can and should make enquiry into them in a transparant manner, and draft the laws to jail those responsible.

      If Holyrood shuts down now, we lose everything.

    85. Republicofscotland says:

      I’d imagine this is just a taste as to how corrupt the COPFS really is.

      http://petercherbi.blogspot.com/2016/03/crown-crooked-crown-office-crime-files.html

    86. Al-Stuart says:

      .
      A journalist will often consider going to jail to “protect their sources”.

      I will donate £100 to a crowdfunder immediately that tests whether David Clegg is willing to sacrifice his freedom when REQUIRED UNDER OATH to provide the identity of the criminal who “leaked” government information that defeats the ends of justice. To wit, which weasel at ScotGov telephoned/emailed/texted David Clegg, which then perverted the course of justice. That being an undertaking from the Scottish Government it would respect the request from Alex Salmond’s legal team to allow him JUSTICE of seeking the interdict and judicial relief from a duty sheriff sitting in court the next day.

      This apparent legal privacy respect has been given ad fucking nauseum to the alphabet women accusers. Some of whom it is clear, are INNOCENT of any wrongdoing and have been abused by the SNP McWokeists as useful idiots.

      I will donate £1,000 to a registered charity immediately upon conviction of either Clegg or his informant.

      This next bit is addressed directly to David Clegg and the person who tipped him off with such profoundly malicious information…

      As an experienced police officer, I allege that you both committed serious infractions of the law. You have an ample menu to choose from…

      CONTEMPT OF COURT. David Clegg, if, or rather, when you refuse to reveal your sources to HM Court and play the righteous journalist, so be it. Clegg, you are a discredited hack prostituting your literary talents to a dying tabloid newspaper. You deserve to go the way of former PM., David Cameron’s Director of Communication, Andrew Edward Coulson, (21/1/1968), ex-hack for News of the World. He was found guilty of the charges libeled against him and sentenced by the Old Baily in June 2014 to18 months imprisonment.

      As for the SNP Sturgeonite McWokeist’s Clipe…

      MALFEASANCE IN PUBLIC OFFICE for the mendacious little piece of rodent feaces who fed David Clegg a load of malicious and contaminated excrement which he ate, swallowed and regurgitated as bile infested contents which then appeared as salacious lies and a calumny of turgid assassin’s rectum-wipe in that despicable excuse of a red-top newspaper.

      Clegg, your number is up. Either in civil court or criminal. So too is the free ride your wee clipey pall has enjoyed.

      Time’s up.

      An old cop is reluctantly making telephone calls once he has spoken to his lawyer tomorrow about the absolute correct way to proceed in regard to David Clegg and persons currently unknown

      One last thing. For all the Pete Wisharts, Angus Robertsons, John Swinneys and Alyn Smyth and other sycophantic Sturgeonista apologists. You either GO TO POLICE SCOTLAND NOW with the truth. Confess what you know about this effort to jail an innocent man by the current squatter in Bute House, or you too will be finding your local police station as familiar as your second homes. Both, by the way, paid for by the taxpayer. But not for much longer. Time is definitely up for you malevolent backstabbing greasy political pole climbers.

      Not one of you is likely to have the courage to speak up, to do the decent thing. Not one of your ilk would resign as the honourable way out. The only way to move you as an example to the other MPs, MSPs and dodgy Cooncillors in your viper’s nest is for Police Scotland to investigate and have the justice system do its job properly. Any law officer breaking the rules, no names, but we all know the incompetent over-promoted lawyer who caused Rangers investigators to be paid millions in compensation: you better do your job impeccably. Your sort don’t enjoy a good time in jail. Think on that.

      For those who prefer their clues to be less alpabetty. The law officer at severe risk of heading for interview under caution…

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KFYshyGZbX0

      Insert “Balliol” for “American”.
      Insert “Scotland” for “London”.

    87. Alan Mackintosh says:

      Although, Robertson the Odious may have just popped in to say hello, apparently that’s a thing in Holyrood…

    88. Lorna Campbell says:

      No matter how you think of Alex Salmond or Nicola Sturgeon or, indeed, of any of the other players in this affair, the law has been played with in a most disgraceful and partial way. The only conclusion that anyone of reasonable intelligence can come to, is that the legal system has been suborned to an aim whose efficacy was questionable, to say the very least.

      Looking back over the way that the SNPG has handled itself since the 2014 referendum, the same basic means of dealing with matters is always the same: ignore legal advice even under the most stringent conditions; refuse to engage with anyone not in the ‘team’; and make sure that your fingerprints don’t show up until you are forced to allow them to be seen by the very law that you have tried to suborn.

      It is all so tawdry and so petty. Had Alex Salmond been critical of the way the SNPG was being run, rather than intending definitely to return to frontline politics? Or was he intending to come back? Maybe both, with a causal link? Many people, by 2017, were becoming critical when the ‘save England from its own Brexit’ became policy, rather than independence for Scotland. However, from the moment the referendum was lost, it should have been obvious to a one-eyed cat that another would never be in the offing again, and that that fact necessitated work having to be done to look at other routes instead of caving in to the dubious Scottish Unionist/rUK alliance for NO, which is what happened.

      If a substantial number of people from the country from which you wish to secede/leave/separate from, vote against your leaving that becomes a colonial vote, and 75% almost of rUK voters voted NO, to bring the Scottish Unionist vote over the line and on to 55% (with the help of a majority (much lower than rUK majority) of EU voters who had been told they would be repatriated if Scotland voted YES (because we would automatically be kicked out of the EU even though no such mechanism existed then or exists now). Instead of understanding that, and drawing the obvious conclusions from the demographics, the SNPG decided that pandering to the NO vote, both Scottish Unionist and rUK was the way forward. I believe in democracy, the rule of law and human and civil rights, for all, but not to the point where one set extinguishes or colonizes another set.

      It would appear that the SNPG always takes the side of minorities, no matter how damaging they are to the cause of independence or to Scotland. I am not trying to claim that minorities should not have their rights: what I am saying is that you cannot run a successful government by pandering ONLY to minorities, no matter how much you might wish to take their every wish into account. Democracies cannot work like that, as the FM is discovering to her cost.

      You give minorities the same rights as everyone, so that all have the same opportunities as far as that is possible, but you cannot override the rights of the majority or of a majority in order to give any minority everything it wants, and more. Rights carry obligations, and there is always the obligation not to take rights away from anyone or other groups, not to trample others in your quest for your own rights. No one’s and no group’s rights are unlimited.

      The FM has forgotten that, apparently, since 2014: in pandering to the rUK part of the NO alliance when it overrode the limitations of its own UN Charter rights against the majority Scottish YES vote, when the Scottish Unionists alone could not have won; by trying to overturn the majority Brexit vote in England; and by trying to sideline Alex Salmond in a collision of such proportions that it does not bear thinking about. The pattern is always the same: fear and intransigence cripple the right action at the right time. In trying to be all things to all men and women, you please no one and end up by losing everyone.

    89. Robert Hughes says:

      Lorna Campbell . Brilliant

    90. Republicofscotland says:

      Jeezo the contempt of court orders in Scotland just keeps growing, there’s a lot of people out there who need shutting up.

      https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/current-business/court-notices/contempt-of-court-orders

    91. Stoker says:

      Hatuey says on 3 February, 2021 at 4:47 pm:
      “Wouldn’t it be the ultimate bit of karma ever if Cherry or someone took over and used “the procedure” to go after former minister Nicola Sturgeon for all this stuff…”

      Have been thinking something similar. What is it some say on here from time to time? Hung by one’s own petard? Using their own invented rules/laws etc. Now that would be the Karma of all Karma’s. LOL!

    92. lumilumi says:

      Alex Salmond never did anything wrong, except one thing – anointing Nicola Sturgeon as his successor.

      He must be horrified at Nicola’s shenanigans and the damage it does to the cause of Scottish independence.

    93. Jim says:

      Meg merrilees @ 17:45
      I don’t think so.
      Nicola Sturgeon could be relied on to keep the Indy movement chasing her carrot indefinitely. The rise of Woko Haram would create enough division, and the transfer of executive power to the NEC would cement it especialy as a suitable chair could be selected with less publicity than the party leader.
      A low-key procedure against Alex Salmond would be prefered as he could be relied on to minnimise the damage to the cause even at great cost to himself. Accusations against Alex Salmond could be leaked as & when the plot needed stirring, or if he appeared to be influencing the Indy movement.

    94. Alan Mackintosh says:

      Stoker, its “hoist by your own petard”. A petard was an early explosive- like a modern day satchel charge. The game was to fix it to a door/gate and light the fuse to blow a breach. The trick was to get away before it exploded.

      In this case it does seem quite apt, things certainly are blowing up in their face. I think there are still a few slow burning fuses still out there too…

    95. Daisy Walker says:

      Fiona Robertson over on her twitter accounts is feeling a bit hard done by from WOS.

      She also stated this,

      ‘Fiona Robertson
      ?
      @FionaSnp
      ·
      2h
      But having seen party members talking about how voting for any person of colour should be avoided because they’re ‘probably woke’ is just horrifying, and has to stop. The explicit campaign to exclude marginalised people from decision-making in the party has to stop. ‘

      Oh, and she only stood for election, in case a person from a minority background didn’t get it, as a sort of backup, I think, sort of.

      And Humza says we’re all being vile and we’ve to stop it, cause its terribly unfair, and please, please don’t anyone ask if the recent changes will ensure his cousin Saeed (who failed to keep proper accounts of £200,000 of money granted to him, and yet now Audit Scotland does not appear to be showing that particular enquiry into Islamic Scottish Foundation) will get a seat on the List, in spite of recently being rejected at branch level… and don’t ask if it will enable him to get his wife selected also.

      so, business as usual.

    96. Ken MacIntyre says:

      A very good exposition of Alex Salmond’s eloquent and devastating evidence. Taken with Craig Murray’s, this is more than ‘conspiracy theory’. It’s conspiracy fact. Despite the Watergate-style cover up, one of the most shameful episodes in Scottish history is now in the open. If the offenders are not dealt with and removed from their posts, there will be serious doubts about the ability of Scotland’s governing institutions to function in an independent state. Sturgeon et al will no doubt in time take their place in the pantheon of Scottish heroes, somewhere below Edward I and the Duke of Cumberland.

    97. Alf Baird says:

      Dean Clark @ 8:00 pm

      “Lady Dorians reply was that the crown office or any individual in the crown office can not be corrupt because for them to be corrupt would be detrimental to any cases they had prosecuted.”

      And that’s a whole lot of cases.

    98. Captain Yossarian says:

      @Daisy Walker – ‘You don’t fix corruption by shutting down the institutions that can and should make enquiry into them in a transparant manner, and draft the laws to jail those responsible’.

      Herein lies the problem…is that not what they have been trying to do, or not do, for the past several months, Daisy?

      The laws are all there, they are not complex and we don’t have to invent anything new.

      The readers of WoS, or many at least, think they know who is primarily responsible. They should be removed from government and charged. Otherwise, what should we all do? Just accept that?

      The government need to ENGAGE. Otherwise, look for something else.

    99. Stoker says:

      Cheers, Alan, @ 8:47pm.
      __________

      For those of you who haven’t seen this. 4 Full pages of corruption: https://bylinetimes.com/columns/boris-johnsons-crony-contracts/

    100. Craig Murray says:

      Ken Macintyre

      One sad fact of life is that all states are corrupt. The Tories have seized on Covid as an excuse to give tens of billions of pounds to their mates in contracts, often to utterly unsuitable companies and frequently those contracts have failed. This has no bearing on Scotland becoming a state.

    101. MaggieC says:

      T.C. Nu @ 8.12 pm , You wrote ,

      “ I’m particulary intrigued by

      ‘…Finally on this matter, as noted above, the Committee has now received records from the Scottish Government on all four phases of its inquiry and would appreciate confirmation from you that there are no further records the Scottish Government is aware of that are not being provided to this inquiry that the Government is in a position to share.‘

      “” It looks bland, but, considering recent developments, reading this another way, one wonders if, perchance, a somewhat juicy still occulted document or two have mysteriously fallen from the tree into their hands and they’re now playing games. “”

      .

      I may be reading it differently from you but reading this from Alex Salmond’s submission there’s still evidence that’s not been submitted to the Committee yet by the Scottish Government ,
      .

      “ The advice of my counsel at the outset was that I had a very strong case which only further strengthened as the process continued. The evidence was forced out of the government by a lengthy and expensive commission process, despite the government having assured the Court and my legal team previously, that they had produced all relevant documents. This turned out to be untrue.
      I have yet to read the government’s legal advice from external counsel. This is despite two parliamentary votes to force its release. “

      .

      The Committee should get all the paperwork before their next session but knowing the way the Scottish Government have been acting I’m doubtful that they’ll get it all .

      Another thought i had tonight was if the civil servants work on the behalf of Ministers as they have always stated when they’ve given evidence , Will this involve all the Cabinet Ministers within the Scottish Government and not just what Minister that they report to directly ?

    102. Bob Mack says:

      Fiona Robertson has withdrawn from the NE List.but not due to that desperado on Wings. Shevonky applied apparently because nobody else with disability did.

      Whistles happy tune.

    103. Contrary says:

      Mia at about 5pm, you say:

      ““What possible legitimate sanction could there have been?”

      If you read the evidence submitted to the inquiry, it is very obvious that these people knew a former minister could not be disciplined under the ministerial code. They were banking on them being disciplined through their political party. In other words, they were hoping Mr Salmond would be ejected from the SNP, and I think this was their primary objective.”

      Not quite I think, Leslie Evans CLAIMED in a letter to Alex Salmond that the Scottish Government cannot “impose any sanction”, but his solicitors replied that the planned action, which was to record the harassment complaint in the government ledgers (and so publicly available), would cause reputational damage which is a form of sanction. (Particularly for a politician)

      The Procedire was solely designed around ruining Alex Salmond’s reputation, not just getting him to resign from the SNP – it was designed to destroy his reputation and career (whether in politics or not).

    104. Helen Yates says:

      I believe this was where Sturgeon’s ego began to get out of control.
      https://t.co/IYgle7nJvm?amp=1
      I was at that conference with my sister (actually that’s me in that photo with Alex) Alex was going to give a talk from the floor as he wasn’t to be “allowed” to be on the stage, we weren’t having that and everyone shouted for him to get on the stage, then the reception he got outside was amazing, he couldn’t move for people congratulation and thanking him, I suspect she was not amused and more so when he made it clear before he left the stage he wasn’t going away.
      I also believe there is more to Joanna Cherry being removed from the front bench, no party that is serious about independence would make a move like this so close to an election regardless of woke pressure,

      I sincerely hope once Alex has made his appearance at the enquiry that we are going to hear a lot more from him, and I pray he makes a comeback even it’s as a candidate in another party. he’s the only hope in my opinion of keeping the dream alive.

    105. kapelmeister says:

      Leslie Evans the senior civil servant and David Harvie the Crown Agent in collusion to ensure Scotland stays British & Loyalist.

      Mandarin Orange & Agent Orange.

    106. Mia says:

      “They should be removed from government and charged”

      But that only solves part of the problem, doesn’t it? Actually it does not solve the problem at all, it just prunes the branches a bit and creates the illusion the problem has been dealt with.

      Mr Lawson’s blog is really itneresting and begs the question: how do we sack David Harvie, and all the David Harvies that may be lurking around inside our “democratic” and “legal” structures without us knowing? How do we sack and charge whoever put him where he is?

      Who is really controlling Sturgeon, Murrell, Blackford and all those civil servants and SPADS involved in the attempt to eject Mr Salmond from politics?

      What if they are the same people who parachuted all those David Harvies in to the picture?

      how do we sack and charge those?

    107. Tannadice Boy says:

      @Captain Yossarian 7:53pm
      The temporary closure of Holyrood is not the answer. Institutional and Parliamentary reform to stop corruption happening again is the way ahead. A soft Scottish media, elements of our Institutions acting in their own interests and a Governing party led by a cabal acting on fear or favour is exactly the environment we need to prove the case. It doesn’t get much worse than this. The SNP have terminally failed. Their time as a political force is decaying. Their half life is measured in weeks. Covid won’t save them forever.

    108. James Horace says:

      When is Craig Murray likely to hear his verdict?

      And do you believe that the papers will start showing his revelations a bit more respect, if Craig is cleared.

      There has been zero commentary on Craigs claims from the media so far. Really odd.

    109. osakisushi says:

      Sorry, off topic but that “Now Scotland” thing on Twitter is bothering me.
      Is it a yoon scam?

      Using a very similar colour scheme to the “No” campaign, every time I look at the logo, I immediately think it reads “No Scotland”.

    110. Republicofscotland says:

      osakisushi

      No check out CM’s site.

      https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/

    111. Carol Neill says:

      I’m clearly not as well versed as the lot of you , but I do thank you indeed for bringing all this info to me

    112. Measured by the heart says:

      In ’99, the Crown Agent was seconded to the Lockerbie trial team??!! Zikes Scoob!!

    113. Jockanese Wind Talker says:

      This will answer your query on the Crown Agent David Harvie, @Republicofscotland says at 7:42 pm

      https://wingsoverscotland.com/some-misunderstanding/#comment-2607277

    114. Denise says:

      @Felks
      Gulp I read it before he made the 6 more redactions I didn’t check what the extra redactions were
      Stu : could you delete my comment on who was at the meeting where they discussed many charges thanks

    115. tricia young says:

      Mia @ 9.20 you can’t. But you can start something different. Try ISP.

    116. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Helen Yates.

      That’s a rather prescient article in The Independent, that you linked to.

      Here’s the archived version.

      https://archive.is/Dquc4

    117. Effijy says:

      The Tories all over social
      Media saying we are the worst performing vaccinators?

      What utter tosh from the Tories again!
      Very convenient not to show the chart of which country has vaccinated all the difficult to manage Care Homes.
      How many hundred remote islands do the rest of the U.K. have other than Scotland?
      How grabbed the Army of Scottish Soldiers in Scottish regiments to help England?
      The medical advice was to do care homes first but the Tories just want any numbers to look as though they got one thing right.
      Still missing the but about England’s deaths being 45% greater than Scotland’s and England the global leader in New cases and recent deaths?
      Strange that!

    118. Effijy says:

      Lying Bastards:

      Scottish Conservatives (@ScotTories) Tweeted:
      “The SNP have finally accepted that Scotland’s vaccine rollout is lagging behind the rest of the UK and the pace needs to be picked up.

      “So let’s focus on what the First Minister is going to do to accelerate the programme.”

      #FMQs
      https://twitter.com/ScotTories/status/1356944591405080580?s=20

    119. Captain Yossarian says:

      @Tannadice Boy – Holyrood was set-up to all work collaboratively for the benifit of all Scots.

      Today’s petulant and irresponsible behaviour by Sturgeon proved to me that it is beyond saving in the short term.

      Sturgeon needs to be replaced. Scots want their vaccinations as least as quickly as the others and that’s Holyrood’s job.

      Couldn’t organize a thing. Wasting everyone’s time.

    120. Republicofscotland says:

      Jockanese Wind Talker.

      Thanks for that, I suspected as much.

    121. Craig Murray says:

      Brilliant article from Iain Macwhirter
      http://archive.is/VLO9D

    122. Willie says:

      David Harvie the Crown Agent was an MI5 operative. He then worked for the FCO.

      Does anyone need to question his pedigree, his allegiance, and how and for whom he operates.

      The Scottish legal system is rotten to the core. Malicious prosecutions, miscarriages of justice and the universities of Glasgow, Edinburgh and Aberdeen have the front to turn out this type of toilet tailings.

      There can now be no respect whatsoever for the rotten stinking legal system they call Scots Law. Mr Idi Amin would have been proud.

    123. Can someone explain how the f@ck Capt Tom managed to get infected with Covid,

      a hundred year old man with pneumonia,

      you would have thought the most stringent precautions would have been taken to protect him from the virus,

      i read that he hadn`t received the vaccine,

      if he had received the vaccine would he still be with us ?

    124. iain mhor says:

      I’m now interested in when the Scottish legal profession cries ‘enough’ and punts someone under a bus (answers on a hairy postcard) they do all play the old game, but when it gets ‘ta’en too far’ they have a tendency to close ranks to protect their mythical Scots independence & probity.

      The game that’s afoot is squarely in their ballpark and the outcome has potentially dire repercussions for the Law in Scotland – which they are all very aware of.
      It’s one thing attacking their ‘Clients’ but when the light shines on them, it becomes another issue entirely.

      No-one is bigger than that ‘firm’ and noble heads have rolled before now. I’m very, very interested in how ‘the Law’ will account itself – because they are in the shite and someone put them there.

    125. Lenny Hartley says:

      Scot Finlayson, probably on his jolly to Barbados at Christmas, he had it before he could get protection from a jag.
      Some man raking away to the Caribbean at 100 , respect.

    126. Meg merrilees says:

      O/T
      Has anyone followed the Trump Golf course debate today at Holyrood? you can read it on the BBC but I’ll save you time – read on.

      Seems the Greens wanted to investigate Trump’s possible unaccountable wealth but it was voted down with this accompanying statement from the SNP.

      Justice Secretary Humza Yousaf said it would be an abuse of power for MSPs to tell prosecutors what to investigate.

      The Scottish Greens motion at the Scottish Parliament was successfully amended by Mr Yousaf with the backing of SNP and Conservative MSPs to instead say there “must not be political interference in the enforcement of the law”.!!!!!

      Pity that they don’t take their own advice

    127. Daisy Walker says:

      Alf Baird says:
      3 February, 2021 at 9:01 pm

      Dean Clark @ 8:00 pm

      “Lady Dorians reply was that the crown office or any individual in the crown office can not be corrupt because for them to be corrupt would be detrimental to any cases they had prosecuted.”

      This does not hold to common sense scrutiny… a judge can have a bad day (as all humans do) and make a bad decision, this is then weighed up on the evidence and appealed.

      A Judge can also preside over 100 trials completely in a lawful manner.

      But if trial 101 is extremely important to the state and or other parties, if they’ve been caught with their knickers down and cocaine up their nose, if they are informed that their family/loved ones will be subject to fatal accidents… and that trial gets compromised by the Judge… then on the evidence of a miscarraige – an appeal would be appropriate and legal.

      And that’s it in a rub. For Lady Dorian’s argument to be true the existence of appeals would not be necessary.

      It has to be on a case by case basis and there has to be evidence of compromise for the defence to present it as grounds. (And that bits a fucker, by the way).

    128. Tannadice Boy says:

      @Captain Yossarian 10:41pm
      Closing Holyrood in the short term is a somewhat excitable solution to events. Do you really think it would be re-opened?. You are pushing against an open door on Sturgeons performance. I wish the vaccine roll out was the only major operational failing of SNPG but it isn’t. We get the Government we deserve. So we persuade people to reform through the ballot box. Says someone that has to idea on who he is voting for in May. The time of the white knight has passed, at least for the next Holyrood elections. But I am remaining optimistic, the Independence movement is resourceful and full of talent or I will just have to dae it maeself!.

    129. Breeks says:

      Gotta admit, I’m rubbing my eyes with incredulity that David Harvey of Scotland’s Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal’s Service is an MI5 man. Why in gods name did nobody think this was worth a mention until now?

      Dear god Scotland, we really do need to raise our game if we ever want to see Independence.

    130. maxxmacc says:

      To:
      Scot Finlayson says:
      3 February, 2021 at 10:53 pm

      Looks like Captain Tom did get the vaccine – that’s probably what killed him!
      https://twitter.com/pcrclaims/status/1356995061020516354

      Hospitals are the real superspreader – as someone recently said, better reopening the pubs and shutting the hospitals!

    131. Garavelli Princip says:

      Willie says:
      3 February, 2021 at 10:47 pm
      “David Harvie the Crown Agent was an MI5 operative. He then worked for the FCO”

      My only problem with this statement is the word ‘was’. MI5 Agents do not retire.

      Mr Harvie IS an MI5 operative. He is also directly involved in Scottish public prosecutions in an organisation that has admitted “Malicious prosecutions”

      This is an intolerable and untenable situation.

    132. Garavelli Princip says:

      Breeks says:
      3 February, 2021 at 11:13 pm
      “Gotta admit, I’m rubbing my eyes with incredulity that David Harvey of Scotland’s Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal’s Service is an MI5 man.

      Dear god Scotland, we really do need to raise our game if we ever want to see Independence.”

      As Alf Baird has been pointing out ad nauseam – this is NOT our game – this is Britain (England’s) game.

      Scotland is an occupied colony.

      This is colonial law. Read the history of the British Empire!

    133. MaggieC says:

      Craig Murray @ 10.42 pm ,

      Thanks for the link to Iain’s article , I would say that he’s correctly
      “hit the nail on the head” as the saying goes .

      Craig , I like this part of it where yourself and Rev Stuart get mentioned in the article .

      “ The influential Wings Over Scotland blog, penned by the Rev Stuart Campbell, which was essential reading for independence supporters in 2014, is now calling for the resignation of Ms Sturgeon and the “woke” legions who are her new praetorian guard.

      Wings has been assisting the former British diplomat, Craig Murray, in his attempts to disclose details of the alleged conspiracy against Mr Salmond. Mr Murray is in turn defending himself against contempt of court charges relating to the Salmond trial. “

      .
      Can i just say thank you to Craig and Rev Stuart for all their honest reporting about Alex Salmond .

    134. Famous15 says:

      David Harvie seconded to the Foreign and Commonwealth . Spooky!

      I think that NC and her husband may have thought they were devilishly smart but I think the British Government puppeteers strings are now obvious. Clever? Not clever enough for our imperial masters.

    135. Famous15 says:

      For NC read Nicola Sturgeon.

    136. Liz g says:

      Scot Flnlayson @ 10.53
      While no one could ever say for sure where that particular elderly man from England caught his fatal virus.
      As is true for any of the elderly on this island.
      I have seen it said, and it may very well be shit stirring, ( especially since that’s all governments seem to do now ) but nevertheless…it has been mooted, that he spent Christmas in Barbados…
      While the truth of it matters little in Scottish politics…. as a paper exercise it is intriguing either way , for many reasons…. not least of which is that it’s no impossible the auld guys real legacy , when the history of this time is written, will be a study in 21st century propaganda !!!
      Nevertheless that he’s earned salutations from his Country is beyond dispute and every respect to the man, I’d say!

    137. Confused says:

      This is like the denouement (word of the day, let me be) of the world’s crappest box set /netflix series

      – what happened was exactly what you thought all along

      the MI5 guy turned up. WHO COULD HAVE GUESSED THAT ONE?!

      add in a cabal of compromised wimmin with strange relations between each other, channelling nurse ratched and the beguiled, then

      denise findlay told us yesterday that the murrells rejigged internal party structures to give themselves total power

      – it’s all so tedious; when the salmond thing started we were all (tentatively) “could this, perhaps, be a fitup … sexual blackmail and allegations being a favourite of the spooks …”

      perhapes we should all make “the imaginative leap” a bit sooner, then we stop playing catchup. Things are probably – exactly what they looked like to start with

      the head of MI5 is maths graduate from glasgow around the 90s (sauce for the goose … ) – a specky weaselly turd-boy; some winger must know him or have something on him – polaroids of himself with his trousers down, or buying gay porn on great western road; this guy probably got the job because he knows a lot about loyalist thuggery and will be there to stir the shit when our time comes. It’s no accident.

    138. Daisy Walker says:

      IF, anyone is attending court in the near future, in whatever capacity (not you Craig, you’ve done enough) can, when the Court officials tell you to mute your phones, ensure, that as you do so the theme tune to James Bond plays a few bars…

      dum de de de dum de de dum de de dum de dum de da da de de dah

      It won’t achieve anything, but a everyone who knows will like it.

      PS I wonder if Lady Dorian has a wig in a trunk in the attic that never ages… chances are it could work out CM has no case to answer a lot quicker than she currently is…

      dum de de dum de dum de dum de dum de dum de da da de de dah..

      See, works!

    139. Jim Jones says:

      I love BTL here. Absolutely brilliant.
      Long time lurker, and am surprised that I’ve yet to see anyone pickup on something maybe important.

      Is a major driving force behind the strange pandering to “Trans” yada yada actually much much simpler than we’re giving credit for?

      Is it not simply a pain worth accepting to ensure the “youth” vote? The SNP are cynically pandering to ensure all the 16yr+ will vote for them. They could tip the balance.

      Think about it. Who here is over 40yrs old? Would you ever say to a gobby entitled youth “…I want to learn from you” and all the other such insane comments we’ve all read. The youth are too up themselves to realise that they are being played.

      Is it that simple. Sturgeon is happy to brush off all predicable howls of disgust knowing we’ll always vote for SNP. But, catching and keeping the youth vote is a higher priority. She’s taking the pain for the gain.

      Daisy, Lorna, Craig, Yossarian, all the rest of you -you are truly brilliant.
      Stu you are simply amazing. Thanks for your hard work. Surely you will be rewarded for this blog.

    140. Cath says:

      @Jim – young people are also a lot more easily manipulated, especially by older people with power and the ability to offer them a sniff of it. I suspect it’s much more a loyalty thing than about votes. The current youth wings of all political parties look far from representative of young folk generally.

    141. Willie says:

      Garavelli Princip.

      Utterly agree.David Harvie was, and still is MI5. That’s the whole point. And he is not the only one.

      The walls have ears. And as well as watching, they act, they influence, they subvert. And if all else fails they kill.

      Willie McRae was murdered all those years ago.Alec Salmond knew that. Many others did to. Reports are that he had information on the pedophile ring at the heart of Westminster that would have brought the Thatcher Government down

      Announcing at an SNP meeting the evening he died he said that he had the evidence to get the bastards. And that was his death warrant. Because for that he had to be taken out and taken out he was.

      His briefcase papers missing he was found dead in his Volvo in a remote part of Scotland shot in the head in the most mysterious of circumstances. And did the Crown initiate an enquiry. Course they didn’t.

      MI5, they’ve been operating here for years.

    142. Daisy Walker says:

      Justice Secretary Humza Yousaf said it would be an abuse of power for MSPs to tell prosecutors what to investigate.

      Dear Humza, why oh why, can I find no record of a FOI request from the Herald (who published an article) to Audit Scotland with regards a lack of accounts being recorded and kept for a £200,000 public grant to your Cousin (as director of Islamic Foundation of Scotland – or something very similar) who recently attempted to get selected as an SNP candidate and was rejected.

      It’s as if ALL records of the grant/audit scotland enquiry /pubished results, of this fund raising event for the … now what was it? remind me, (since you were a director at the time) Islamic Scottish Foundation? Foundation for Islam In Scotland?… oh, you know… you were going to have a festival of muslim in Glasgow (which I would have liked by the way – so do not accuse me of anything) and you requested £400,000 of public money, got half, spent it, on what, even you can’t say, because Audit Scotland specify ‘records were not kept and accounts not made’ and we never got that festival….

      And now, its really, really, really difficult to get at the details of the Audit Scotland enquiry. And you, sitting there, Justice Minister. Hmmm.

      It even appears that the original Herald story is no longer so available via interweb. Connections eh.

      Dummdededummdedummdedummdededummdedadadedumdadah. #ayerightfirindyohyeareareye

    143. David Ferguson says:

      Denise says:
      3 February, 2021 at 10:15 pm

      Stu : could you delete my comment on who was at the meeting where they discussed many charges thanks…

      Don’t worry Denise. Sturgeon, Harvie, Robertson and Blackford have no particular right to have their identities protected, nor the right to have the fact that they attended a meeting to discuss the AS fit-up concealed from the public.

      I have it on good authority that part of the agenda involved Robertson and Blackford self-identifying as trans-women to become complainants in the criminal case. Concerns were raised that they looked like a pair of obese human-warthog hybrids, but a look around the room confirmed that this might actually support the Moorov Doctrine approach.

      Sturgeon was so excited at the idea that she had to leave the room and make a call to the French Consulate. But calmer heads prevailed. While placating the others with assurances that it was a brilliant strategy, Sturgeon’s handler Harvie managed to convince them that this might become a rerun of the Tet offensive, and the idea was shelved.

    144. Daisy Walker says:

      Jim Jones says:
      3 February, 2021 at 11:53 pm

      I love BTL here. Absolutely brilliant.
      Long time lurker, and am surprised that I’ve yet to see anyone pickup on something maybe important.

      Is a major driving force behind the strange pandering to “Trans” yada yada actually much much simpler than we’re giving credit for?

      Is it not simply a pain worth accepting to ensure the “youth” vote? The SNP are cynically pandering to ensure all the 16yr+ will vote for them. They could tip the balance

      NO, you missed a bit. it costs about 25,000 to do the opp on a man for them to become transgender and have their genitals removed and restructed in the female fashion. Not sure if that is dollars or pounds.
      However, HRT, was I believe the second most commond drug sold, until it was directly linked to causing female breast cancer, overnight, it stopped being prescribed.
      Men who transgender to female can expect to incur in the region of up to 800,000 in fees for HRT over a 10 year period (again not sure if $ or £’s).

      I will leave you to join the dots yourself.

      Its just possible the above lucrative new medical/financial market has a tiny wee bit to play with regards the international, and extremely professional, and aggressive marketing policy that has decended on the whole world, at the same time, for a very small fraction of society.

      You’ll know best yourself.

    145. Daisy Walker says:

      Maybe…

      while we’re waiting, if we all go over to WGD site and start humming the tune to 007…

      Miss money penny would drop?

      Dum dum de dum dum, de dum de dum de de dum dum dum de dum dum de de dum.

    146. wee monkey says:

      Cath says:
      3 February, 2021 at 5:30 pm
      Quote:-
      “It’s interesting that promotion happened right after the Brexit vote. The precise point when Scotland’s remain and England’s leave put..”

      Actually the BALLOT stated for the UK to either REMAIN or LEAVE the EU so I will make an assumption [as the remain campaigners/MSM did as well..] that in FACT you in fact voted for the UK to remain.NOT sCOTLAND AS IT WASN’T ON THE ballot paper. AKA more wheesht indy crap.

    147. David Caledonia says:

      Never has groundhog day been so apt, never have so few been bored by so few

    148. Mia says:

      “Actually the BALLOT stated for the UK to either REMAIN or LEAVE the EU”

      So what? Scotland could only vote for Scotland to leave or remain in the EU. It voted to remain in the EU. And as Scotland is not the property of England, England can only vote for England to leave or remain in the EU, not to decide what everybody else does or not.

      If we did not have British State agents and their puppets leading the SGov and the SNP both up here and down in Westminster, and those agents and puppets were not conspiring to chuck Mr Salmond out of the SNP and out of politics, England would have not dragged us out of the EU.

      So you can cut the colonialist crap. Scotland voted to remain in the EU and you are just going to have to swallow it. No England MP nor England crown agent or unelected colonial emissary gets to tell us what WE voted for. WE decide what we voted for, thank you.

    149. Garavelli Princip says:

      Willie says:
      4 February, 2021 at 12:02 am
      Garavelli Princip.

      Utterly agree.David Harvie was, and still is MI5. That’s the whole point. And he is not the only one.

      Thanks Willie. I have no doubt either that Mr McRae was murdered by the Brit state – the cover-up continues

    150. Grouse Beater says:

      15.55: BREAKING NEWS

      Holyrood Inquiry refuses to include Salmond’s submission.

    151. Grouse Beater says:

      Correction: “publish’ his submission.

    152. Pixywine says:

      David Harvie, Rememberencer? A City of London stooge. The Queens agent. Surprise surprise.

    153. Annie 621 says:

      Good job I have it on pdf.



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