Wings Over Scotland

“Now that they’ve got your votes and secured their seats”

They didn’t get my votes. Either of them. They do not speak for me.

If you decide to take a break – and god knows you’ve earned it – and then come back – the information you provide may no longer be ‘publishable’ without criminal law repercussions.

I would be very grateful to receive the information you provide via e-mail.

By standing up for womens rights, as a political party – Alba have painted an international target on their backs, and hope in many peoples hearts.

One reason the public are sleepwalking into this, is that there are so few trans people in the world, that much of this new bonkers legislation doesn’t affect them – yet.

Another thing Alba has done – is give avenue for the Yes Movement to come out and play. And that is incredible.

How many genders am I holding up, Winston?

link to archive.vn

Stewart McDonald is the laughing placeman.

and dissenters intimidated into silence by the threat of prosecution and ruination,

So they think.

I’m not a public figure like our host, or Alex Salmond, or Craig Murray, or Manny Singh. Never wanted to be, the only thing that got me interested in politics was independence. Probably not as brave as any of those men either.

But I’m not going to tell lies, or shut up, just because the law says so. And, as a father with school aged weans, I’m probably going to have to do Dad stuff when the regime tries to fill my children’s heads with Queer Theory in the guise of “education”.

I don’t think I’m unusual. And they can’t jail us all even if they wanted to. And if they did, well, even Nelson Mandela went to prison.

So, they’re on tae plums. Scotland doesn’t belong to the SNP or the Greens. It belongs to us.

Sturgeon is a failure. The SNP are a minority party and 1,094,300 list votes were cast to achieve two seats.

The wee wummin is going no where. Johnson and Westminster will dismiss her, wiper her off their shoes.

This is not success. But it could have been. And the 1.1 million wasted votes. Well that’s what she campaigned for. Suck it up folks, just suck it up, good times are here again

IN MEMORIAM

The Constitution of the Scottish National Party

The Party

1 Name
The Party’s name is the Scottish National Party.

2 Aims
The aims of the Party are—

(a)  Independence for Scotland; that is the restoration of Scottish national sovereignty by restoration of full powers to the Scottish Parliament, so that its authority is limited only by the sovereign power of the people of Scotland to bind it with a written constitution and by such agreements as it may freely enter into with other nations or states or international organisations for the purpose of furthering international cooperation, world peace and the protection of the environment. ?
(b)  the furtherance of all Scottish interests.
…

RIP??

If Daddy Bear and Mummy Bear ever get their desired meeting with Mi5, these two and their new friends can all have a big old laugh in their bunker at the statesman who got us within a whisker of independence. Birds of a feather…

I’m too old to emigrate. I moved back to Scotland in 2018 after 25 years in England full of hope that before too long I’d see an independent Scotland. I’m resigned now to it not happening before I retire which is still 5 or 10 years away (more likely 10 given economic circumstances). If I had Irish grandparents I’d have taken Irish citizenship: sadly my Irish ancestry is further back than that!

My advice to younger Scots who are not happy with the direction of travel of the SNP and Green parties is to think hard whether you want to make alternative arrangements. Either the prospect of staying in Scotland as part of broken Britain, or seeing independence under the SNP and Greens, fills me with horror.

I’m luckier than most to be reasonably secure and not have to worry about a mortgage or young children. I’ll play my part in the next few years as an Alba member to try and change the current direction of travel, but it’s hard today not to feel disheartened particularly as it was a train wreck some of us could see coming and warned about long since.

Sadly it seems the general population is only going to learn from bitter experience. Whether they rise to the challenge, or sink back into the kind of torpor we see in England in the face of the Tories remains to be seen. The New SNP is little different to New Labour. We can only hope that like Labour the SNP will end up eating itself from within.

People as insane as this will obviously destroy themselves in time, but the question is, how much damage will they do first?

Yeah there’s a bit of gloating going on.

link to twitter.com

I think the result suits Sturgeon the Betrayer, she has the Greens to fall back on and she can now get on with her day job of continually selling Scotland out.

The majority of the folk in Scotland don’t even know what they’ve done by reelecting Sturgeon the Betrayer, and shunning the Alba party with help from the anti-Scottish media.

A similar scenario happened in England when the electorate rejected Corbyn, Johnson went on to, and continues to reek havoc.

The next five years will see Scottish women’s rights diminished and replaced by trans/crossdressers, and COPFS will enforce this via the ever obedient Police Scotland.

It will be five years of Dante’s purgatory.

49.5 % rather than 50% plus pro-Independence votes – possibly because many Independence supporters could not, despite Alec’s encouragement, vote for SNP with a clear conscience.

Spear,Black,Blackman and Sturgeon are what are called in the feminist and lesbian community as Handmaidens of the Patriarchy,

even during the time of the suffragettes there were woman who supported the patriarchy and against female votes,

called Anti-suffragism.

That’s how it works, isn’t it? A woman destroys womens’ rights, Labour destroy working class society, Conservatives don’t conserve anything, and the SNP destroy the yes movement.

I’ve actually closed down my twitter account. I was almost crying last night at the triumphalism and ignorance of Sturgeon loyalists. They have destroyed the united Yes movement for petty parliamentary careers, and they’re actually proud of it. Loyalty to the party is more important than belief in the cause, and they won’t work with anyone who doesn’t bend the knee to their beliefs. I actually saw SNP folk on twitter saying they wouldn’t support AUOB because they weren’t SNP supporters, despite AUOB not taking a position on any independence party.

Robin McAlpine told us in 2016 that the SNP couldn’t win independence without the Yes movement, but the Yes movement couldn’t win without the SNP.

The SNP no longer have independence as a priority, so we’ll have to hope he was wrong about the second.

I’ll lick my wounds for a few days. Then I’ll either get on with my life, or hope that Now Scotland take the initiative. If we can get 3.5% of the population onto the streets, we can effect change.

But we’ll be demonised all the way by the so-called “leaders” of our movement.

OK – so I’ve just spoken to “Both votes SNP” voters who don’t trust Alex Salmond because he “admitted to bad behaviour” but would trust Nicola Sturgeon with women’s rights much more. When I pointed out that Sturgeon was for self ID. was willing to throw women under the bus and that the SNP wanted to stand Mridul on a female only ticket (they don’t agree with his appointment to ERCC) I got the “Can’t discuss politics with you” line. People just don’t seem to want to hear a bad word said against the Wokemeister General – who, by the way , they still think will deliver indy – or “she is finished”. Tried to point out the damage that could be done by her and Harvey in that time but “It will sort itself out after independence”. I could f*****g cry.

Alas, Alex Salmond’s mid-life crisis was aired in public by a gloating media who were unable or unwilling to report objectively on his successful defence. Sadly, I fear that will continue to impinge upon any positive perception of the Alba Party.

Nicola Sturgeon’s mid-life crisis (court injunctions notwithstanding) is centred on (forced?) errors of constitutional management. She will continue to walk a tightrope until one end gives. The fact that she is supported by clowns like Spear and MacDonald only increases the slack.

“I could f*****g cry”

Don’t. It is wasted tears. We have to let the things follow its course (give them enough rope…). The time will come when you can tell them: “tried to tell you so, but you chose not to listen. Are you ready to listen now?” And have no doubt, that day will come.

There is only so far somebody can go with their fingers in their ears and their eyes closed.

True Stu, but thoroughly depressing. What a bunch of small minded cunts the SNP have become. TRAs/MRAs are doctrinaire perverts and the SNP and Greens are full of them. I’ll stick with Alba, a party grounded in reality.

This may be the last time I bother voting. I might give my vote as a proxy to someone I trust to vote sensibly, but I’m done. Scotland doesn’t give a shit about women. Scotland’s mother’s, wives, sisters and daughters are being told day after day that our safety and dignity are not important, that our rights and needs make us “bigots”, that we choose our lot by wearing the wrong costume, that crimes committed against us by rapists and nonces are our crimes because they say so, and now this: a million votes for misogyny. I see the SNP 1&2 lot are already claiming they didn’t vote for self ID or whatever other insane degenerate bollocks the SNP will do now. Do you people not have eyes and ears? Or do you just not have a spine between you? Anyone looking sees what you voted for and it’s not independence. Doubly so for those who voted Green.

I was a strong Yes. I am wavering. If I wanted what some of these woke shitheads appear to want I would simply move to the wonderful progressive rainbow eutopia that is Iran. That is the kind of country they appear to want Scotland to be. Hell mend them.

I’m sure Mr Salmond is quite happy for the SNP to now delivery a referendum and win it, after all Sturgeon can’t afford to lose two and neither can Angus Robertson nor the SNP. Laugh for now (SNP) but I’m sure it won’t last for long not if Westminster has anything to do with it, you might just end up wishing (SNP) had Alex Salmond on its side.

And so the status quo is maintained allowing the SNP to proceed with their sinister agenda and offer no defence to Westminster’s aggression.

It looks as though Nikola Tesla’s prophesy is about to come true:

“You may live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension.”

Most ordinary voters do not pay much attention to what’s in a manifesto anyway. They vote on the basis of usually one issue and vague impressions filtered by the media.

I spoke to some ordinary folk, people with busy lives that I guessed correctly had little interest in politics – and it was really depressing. The issues surrounding the Salmond case, revealing the internal corruption and authoritarianism of The SNP had not made any impression on them at all. The media did an excellent job because since they professed not to follow the news either in the press or TV, they did vaguely ‘know’ that Alex Salmond was deeply suspect.

Those odious people in the tweets above, the usual suspects to the rest of us, are totally unknown to most of the public, so they can indulge in ugly triumphalism with impunity. People might be surprised at what they voted for since their votes have been hi-jacked for a hidden agenda. That’s how democracies are subverted, by stealth.

Until ordinary voters can become enraged at the abuse of democracy demonstrated in the Holyrood parliament and in the courts against the likes of Craig Murray, then these culprits can press on with their projects. Now, they will become bolder, buoyed up with success and barely concealed contempt for democracy. To paraphrase New Labour, “Things Can Only Get Worse”.

Once you understand that your role in life is not to be on a mission to save the world it makes much more sense.

The ruling group can do anything they want and you cannot prevent them from projecting their will.

Sturgeon will never have another referendum as the rumours would then manifest as truths. If she ever loses power she is done.

On the topic of total indy/anti indy votes a London hack queried: “what indy supporter wouldn’t vote snp on constituency?”

The list seat was a majority for yes. But yes lost a tiny fraction on the constituency vote.

Could it be this site telling people not to vote snp wot did it?

Regardless, the list is the more reflective vote and it’s pro indy. The constituency vote includes disgruntled wings readers spoiling ballots that went Alba.

Its all a charade if you ask me, unionist presenters asking Sturgeon the Betrayer, if and when she’s thinking of holding an indyref, and she replying that she will when the time is right.

The media knows fine well she won’t hold one as does Sturgeon the Betrayer, but the game must be played out before our very eyes to make it look and sound convincing.

Meanwhile the masses are enthralled with it all and come down on the side of Sturgeon, as though she’s the goodie in a pantomime, and the BritNat media and Johnson are the arch villans, stopping Scotland from spreading its now duckling wings, to its beautiful and garceful swan like wings.

This charade will be played out before our very eyes for decades, oh some of the major players will change, and many of the enthralled masses will die without ever realising what’s going on, nor will they have seen an indy Scotland. The real winners are those that hold the power, they reap the benefits, with comfortable life styles, celebrity status, often immunity from prosecution, and most importantly to us they dream up the policies that become law that we need to abide by.

This is why they fear Alex Salmond and the Alba party, who want to break the cosy set up between Holyrood and Westminster and actually deliver independence without fear or favour to the people of Scotland.

“yes, I am guilty of gloating that a man whose TV show is broadcast in RT”

???

So are we to understand that Mr Stewart McDonald MP is also gloating and laughing at the voters in his own constituency who cast a vote for ALBA and have concerns for the erosion of the rights of females and children? Is he dismissing our concerns as ridiculous?

Does he normally laugh at his constituents who do not vote SNP or do not think the way he thinks? I thought MPs were expected to represent ALL their constituents, not just those who vote the way Mr McDonald likes.

The last time I checked Scotland was a democracy. This means that if none of the political parties available actually stand for what you want them to stand, you are perfectly free to set up another party, and that is what Mr Salmond has done. Does Mr McDonald, besides showing appalling contempt for his fellow countrymen and constituents, also shows full contempt and disrespect for democracy? What is Scotland for Mr McDonald then, a dictatorship where everybody has to vote SNP even with the individual they maintain as leader is on a course to destroy the party and to hand Scotland’s assets to Westminster? And what are his Scottish countrymen then? the cannon fodder who are fool enough to pay his undeserved salary?

And what problem does Mr McDonald have exactly with RT? It is a broadcasting, a paying broadcasting. Mr Salmond is doing a job. Does Mr McDonald think it would be better for Mr Salmond to live on subsides?

There is no difference between RT an the BBC. The BBC has demonstrated in the way they have blocked Alba and how they have pounced on an innocent man to help the British state and Sturgeon to stop him getting back into HOlyrood that the BBC is nothing but a propaganda tool for the British state.

So under what angle exactly is Mr McDonald criticising RT? Russian or British propaganda is propaganda after all. British propaganda is not any better than Russian propaganda. It is just peddled from a different angle. So what exactly is the faux moral stance Mr McDonald is attempting to take here?

And what is next for Mr McDonald? is he going to embarrass himself by laughing in social media at and disrespect those constituents who do not have a job HE “approves”?

“My solidarity goes beyond the boundaries of Scotland”

And ain’t that a shame? Isn’t it a shame that this man’s “solidarity” only goes beyond the boundaries of Scotland instead of TOWARDS Scotland and his fellow countrymen?

Whose interests is Mr McDonald representing, those of Scotland or those of someone “beyond the boundaries of Scotland”? He was not elected to act as the pet or useful idiot of any other country and that includes England. He was elected to represent the interests of a constituency IN SCOTLAND. Gloating and making fun of his fellow countrymen because they do not share his political ideas, his job interests, the receptors of “his solidarity” or his taste for propaganda doesn’t do honour to the position he is holding.

Oh dear. Sturgeon has clearly surrounded herself of idiots who forget to engage their brains before they open their mouths. What a beacon of integrity, respectfulness, empathy and good manners for the SNP Mr McDonald is. A true mirror reflection of his party leader.

I’d be tempted to say to the SNP1 crowd, “I told you so… and so incidentally did the Rev multiple times”… but to say that would me ignoring the fact that these people are in on it.

They knew exactly what they were doing and the last few years that have been the flaming oil tanker wreck surrounding Nicola Sturgeon are nothing compared to what is coming next. In 5 years time our country will be virtually unrecognisable. Freedom of speech will be gone, a free media will be a distant memory, the criminal justice system will be morphed Ito its new role of protecting the party and attacking its opponents, non-men will be firmly at the bottom of the social hierarchy and women’s sport will be replaced by hairy arsed blokes in dresses.

Meanwhile Queen Nicola will be prepping herself to bugger off to some non job in an organisation dedicated to ramming woke bullshit down peoples necks and we will be left with the odious corrupt bastard Angus “rear admiral” Robertson and his even more odious wife.

What an utter shit show. If only Eck had taken the gloves off instead of convincing himself he could work with sturgeon again. The fact he tries to see good in people backfired on him because the people he was dealing with are the lowest of the low. Mind you, I have to say that the continual smearing od Eck may end up being Sturgeon’s ultimate downfall as I can’t see him continuing to take this without fighting back. All it would take is a information dump on a foreign based website. There is enough dirt out there to send a whole raft of people to prison, the sooner these people are gone the better. It needs to happen now before things settle down after the election.

“ Indeed, Sturgeon’s failure to win an absolute majority on Thursday was by any sort of detached and fair analysis a rotten performance.”

Correct. In the current climate, a majority of constituency seats was there for the taking. There is less than 3 years (perhaps much less if boris decides to cement his position) to a WM campaign.
Parties like Alba must paint a positive picture of an independent Scotland.
The SNP’s position on currency and the EU is embarrassing but they don’t care because they’re not really serious about independence and failure to act will see people walk away from the party.

@ClanDonald

That thread you link to is horrifying. I feel truly sickened. The SNP is practically an MRA group, hiding in plain sight.

I was a polling agent. Standing along with Lab, Greens, SNP were too posh to stand in the rain, they just kept driving by in limos shouting at everyone, both votes etc, no sign of the Cons.

Anyway got chatting to the nice wee Green girl, from Texas – BTW, there seems to be a largeish number of Yanks in southside Glasgow.

To cut a long story short, I wanted to know her position on Green women’s rights.
I got the full right on message, we are all fighting the patriarchy, TWAW, there is a 3rd sex.

I came to the conclusion, that nice but dim women think that by some men being TW, they are giving up their maleness and thus are no longer part of the dreaded patriarchy.

This is due to crap education, no critical thinking.
I see on a previous thread, some saying their Uni educated relatives couldn’t see past the propaganda re Alex S.

They might change their minds when women’s spaces become dangerous but I won’t hold my breath

Time is on my side. Not perhaps in life years, but in the inevitability that the SNP will again fail to deliver the much promised referendum.

The pied piper of Holyrood has again got the people beguiled by her tune, but it is a tune with no ending. Snappy chorus which everybody remembers, but no finale .

It wil! go out of fashion soon enough, and they better have something written to replace it, or Indy folk will turn on them.

Keep going Rev. Take a long break but come back. We need you. Scotland will need you as never before in days to come when these discussed introduce their Legislation for lotus eaters.

Even if NS had been voted in on a super majority, with no support from greens or any one else,
There would have been no one else’s head on the chopping block for the responsibility of voting to leave the uk,
The independence movement could and would have put her head on that block.
Now she can excuse herself under the coalition she wanted, she does not have to stand alone.
The independence movement were already angry with and at her at wasteing mandates , she would have metaphorically and politically swung within a year.
AS, theory would have supplied a win win for the independence movement, if he got in, he had a reason to to show her up after all she had done to him and his family, but if she got in on her own, she could not blame or turn to anyone else for denying the independence of our country,
Now we have greens, labour, tories and libdems, thanks stu,for all your hard work.

Bonnie Prince Boab, last seen walking down the Royal Mile with some sheep and hitting them with a stick. Apparently he’s been arrested for flogging his mutton.

Sturgeon’s lockdowns played in her and the unionist favour as people couldn’t meet up and talk or socialise any more and people are more isolated and relying on the media to spoonfeed them what is happening more than ever. If it wasn’t for that perhaps Alba could have got more of a grassroots and word of mouth action going. When everyone’s isolated though? Not a chance. It’s a very politically useful tool to simply handwave away the rights to assemble and associate. At the same time you can make it both too expensive to try to work around it (by having mass leafleting and all sorts of other probably inferior and expensive ways to work around it) and downright near impossible to access the usual media you need by them keeping the door closed.

Sadly, I don’t think the average public will ever understand what is going on with the woke agenda or corruption and the increasing dictatorial situation we’re heading into. They rely too much upon being spoonfed and make last second judgements based on very little. They are still relatively comfortable and have something to lose so don’t want to rock the boat. The mainstream is telling them that if they disagree with the agenda supported by the government and corporations they are evil, so they will keep quiet and letting it expand slowly as to do otherwise is to be “immoral” by the future standards.

I fear we’ll have to build something grassroots and wait until the incompetent crash it themselves and the rest of us have to pick up the pieces and start off in a much worse position than we’d hoped for to build.

From Women.Scot twitter account ,

“ To cheer us all up! “

link to twitter.com

James Dreyfuss is fantastic , LOL .

I agree with a few comments up thread .

Take the gloves off Alex let Scotland know exactly what and who she is and I hope Evans doesn’t disappear before she is called to give evidence , evidence that could nail sturgeon to the wall

As for the arse licking tossers on the doging site you will be getting asked for money to repair the roof fix the garden in the house you mugs funded , and your reward will be some snarky snide remarks twice a week while you are getting on with your knitting and gossiping about sweet fk all

At this point I can see Scots in some kind of self imposed foreign exile being who we rely upon to speak out against what is happening and coming as they’ll be the only ones with the freedom of speech to do so.

The establishment when under threat always finds a way to destroy it from within. For example, Corbyn, was a threat to them.

This is whats happened to Alex’S SNP, Nicola was the viper in the nest. With the help of Greens the disasters coming belong to just them.

We MUST highlight everything they are doing – to the public who are unaware. The ripple effect.

This is our job for the next 5 years

Liz, for some reason the word Hermaphrodite keeps popping into my brain.

@ Liz at 1:06 pm

Re. Lack of awareness on what the Self ID and Hate Crime Act will mean for Scottish society.
Clearly the BBC and MSM have held back skewering the SNP and Greens over this, they are currently giving the Scottish Government Administratiors of Devolved Powers enough rope to hang themselves. But folk would be incredibly naive to think these subjects won’t be weaponised as and when required.
Some may recall Jo Swinson getting demolished in an interview when she had to attempt to answer questions relating Self ID / GRA.

So, if this is being allowed to go under the radar then why not wake up wider society to the realities of these policies by embracing them to the max and let merry hell break lose as it finally dawns on folk what is going on.

In a form of uncivil obedience I’ve been swithering with transing out of my current superstraight male monkey mode, and instead bravely morphing into a stunning woman.
If we are going to get fucked for the next parliamentary session then I might as well embrace the option of enjoying multiple orgasms!
Plus I could enter some women’s races now too, seeing as my once male superfit testosterone fueled body and fitness and strength level are diminishing to a more crumbling boned and wheezing asthmatic status, I reckon I could still be competitive against my fellow ladies though.

If I make it onto the podium like Rachel McKinnon / Veronica Ivy or whatever he is calling himself these days, I would of course not accept the medal and instead make my point that blokes shouldn’t be entering women’s sports.

Ian Brotherhood eluded that “they” may be up for some civil disobedience. I therefore await with anticipation, and a degree of trepidation, a certain Juanita Sisterhood cutting a dash on the Scottish scene. 🙂

“I’d be tempted to say to the SNP1 crowd…”

It is not the SNP 1 crowd who is the problem. It is the SNP2 crowd and those in the SNP who encouraged voters to go for SNP2 when they knew they were asking their voters at all practical effects to waste their votes.

From where I am standing, that is incredibly dishonest and yet we are still to hear an apology from Sturgeon or her praetorian guard for such an unforgivable sacrifice of pro indy votes.

Not voting SNP1 would have led to pro independence parties not having even the largest share of the seats in the chamber. That would only interest unionists. Are you an unionist, then?

As it is, the unionist parties only have some sort of representation today because because Nicola Sturgeon asked SNP voters to waste over one million of their votes for the unionists’ sake.

In other words, Nicola Sturgeon asked SNP voters to pay with over a million of their pro indy votes to return 46 unionist seats and forcing some unionist representation in Holyrood to keep the pretence of a union. Over one million pro indy votes is the price that Nicola Sturgeon thought was worth for SNP voters to pay to stop Alba getting in Holyrood and expose her for the political fraud she is.

From where I am standing, to sacrifice 1 million pro indy votes to get 46 unionist seats by the back door to massage her overinflated ego seems like a rather raw deal and certainly not value per vote.

Karen says:
9 May, 2021 at 1:36 pm

This is our job for the next 5 years

No, it isn’t. Our job is not to provide the Sturgeon Cult or the Eco-Nappy Fetish Cult with pantomime baddies for them to point to and distract those who don’t want to know they made a bad choice with a scapegoat, like Napoleon with “Jones will come back!” in Animal Farm.

Let events take their course.

The die is cast, and as with Labour, time for the great Scottish public – with more access to sources of information than ever before, yet still more interested in reality TV shows, Corrie and their half of the Old Firm to care less about grown up topics – to take the consequences of what they have consented for others to do unto them.

If that means people get hurt, so be it.

H L Menchken dryly remarked that democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. The only way too many ever learn is the hard way – particularly the younger generation today, which unlike previous younger generations you literally can’t tell them anything lest it “triggers” or “traumatises” them and you end up prosecuted or fired because of it.

It takes the ruthlessness of the real world and its priorities (food, heat and shelter) to drag them out of airy-fairy land, although considering the way so many psychictric drugs are dished out like Smarties, even that’s not a given.

This isn’t defeatist, this is long-term rationality. They’ve made their bed, let them lie in it with Sturgeon and Harvie farting and shoving their heads under wanting them to smell it.

Looks like a clear admission from James Kelly (Scot goes Pop) that Sturgeon has no intentions of pushing for independence.

link to twitter.com

@Ross

BBC reckons there were 20 labour and 26 conservative msps v 2 snp and 8 greens on the list so presumably the indy majority to which you refer is one of independent mind – but only in the sense that 26 is the biggest number.

A more significant element of the apparent attempt at suicide by footshooting is that the potential 20 to 40 Alba assistants that could have been employed to assist the alleged objective, via each new MSPs £60,000 members support allowance, will now be replaced by even more people determined to sabotage it under the guise of due diligence.

On topic – Salmond looks great in that photo considering everything he’s been put through.

Yes, I think that “there is something of the night” about Alex Salmond, but in contrast to the current leadership of the SNP, I think that he is purer than the driven snow.
As for the matter of 120,000 deaths from covid, would Bliar, Corbyn, Starmer (ha, ha) have been more successful? Would any one of them committed to ordering vaccines last year when the EU said “NON”?

Am off to join my old mate Rip Van Winkle. Independence ? You can forget it.

Ugh. Was watching BBC again.

Medusa has been exposed and heads will roll soon. These wokes will be so consumed in their vitriolic jubilance against Alba, Alex and it’s supporters will destroy them. They will literally eat themselves(like a new queer fetish) and implode.

Alba is rising but not with 100, but with 50,000 just for starters. Let the contest begin.

The normal SNP supporters who have been hoodwinked will soon realise to their horror what has transpired when their kids come from school and tell them what their teacher is teaching them today at school in Swinney’s new brand of “curriculum for wokeness.
When they can’t access female toilets because there filled with men in cubicles. Teaching them about fetishes instead of the big bad wolf predator’s that they are.

Jimmy Saville was a horrible evil man who did his evil deeds ,mostly hidden and protected by the establishment. These people are worse. They’re doing it in plain site.

That’ll be the start of the hell they’ll create for Scotland. We must rise up and tell them – not in our name you won’t.

David A,
Covid issue. There are people whom have sadly passed away and died of covid, and genuinely my heartfelt sympathies lie with those families.
But I agree with you that covid has been extended as a political weapon by the politicians for control of people now,
It’s a well known fact that continually covering your face leads to you recycling your own breath that your body has already used and no longer considers safe. So nature expels it normally away from your body,
However this natural safety mechanism is impeded and ignored by mask wearing, if a baby can be smothered by not being able to breath normally so can adults,
People die from lack of fresh oxygen into their lungs, and if we talk of the less extreme end of the clean new oxygen going into lungs, what slow long term damage can mask wearing be having on the lack of new oxygen going into the bloodstream, to the brain, or heart etc,
As an asthmatic I notice the difference immediately in health when I have to use my mask going into shops, for me it is sudden and obvious, but for those normal and healthy it would take a while for them to see long term hidden damage to their lungs, maybe two or three years time or as they get older,
The obvious being said about recycling your own breath thereby reducing fresh oxygen to you’re bloodstream, brain &lungs etc, behind your mask,
how it applies to politics can be seen as an evident political weapon with the way in which barely out of lock down, not yet acknowledged in politics, by SAGE, or WHO, that covid and variants are over, we were all able to go to polling stations and vote.
How the demise happened in time for elections makes you absolutely in wonder an amazed by nature.
However we have to realise that covid does not think it is safe to hold a Scottish independence referendum in any day soon where you would have to go to polling place to vote.
and that politicians in Scotland will apply this covid variety politically and with a good deal political decisions,
That business recovery comes before voting, and health recovery comes before voting, and the Scottish government will build back better so voting can only take place further in the future,
We only had a bad dream on Thursday that we voted in an election while covid was not over.

“this is all Alex Salmond’s fault”

Don’t be ridiculous. Mr Salmond was not leader or deputy leader of the SNP since 2014. I think you find Robertson and Brown after him were. Did they not see what she was doing?

Mr Salmond has not been part of the SNP since 30 August 2018. WTF have the SNP MPs and MSPs been waiting for for the last 3 years to kick this political fraud out of the driving seat?

What happened to the SNP in the last 3 years is not Mr Salmond’s fault and there is no way you can ping that on him. He might have made a mistake trusting this woman back in 2014, even that we don’t know when she became a puppet of Westminster, it may have been after that. But for the last 3 years, which is when she has inflicted the worse damage on the party, the onus lands completely in the SNP members, the SNP MPs, the sNP executive and MSPs for not removing her of the post and leave her instead to eviscerate the democratic structures of the party from within.

There is always a delay in voters catching up. But catch up they will. Let’s wait and see in 2024 how many SNP MPs survive their folly of not removing this fraud out of the driving seat when they had the chance.

What the Rev said in his introductory piece was the whole truth and has been already projected by quite a few on this forum; the election was not about Independence, it was about reinforcing the lie which is the Murrells.
Why did Alex not see this before starting a new party and giving the SNP a free pass into the bargain?
As this article demonstrates, we are now completely in the hands of the woke lunatics who will be out for blood and the reputations of more than Alex’s will be badly damaged, if not sunk.

Once more it must be obvious that no progress can be made until these people are removed and in the meantime the strongest possible opposition to the Hate Crime Bill and the GRA must be brought forward. It may not yet be too late but it will mean getting out on the street and voicing our opposition on every platform available to us.
Forget Indy for a couple of years and start fighting Sturgeon, because that is where the Indy votes are going via middle aged women and young idiots.

James Che, nobody has passed away or sadly died of Covid and here is why.

On the 19th March 2020, the four nations of the U.K.removed Covid 19 from its Pandemic Register because of it’s ‘low mortality’ rate. That mortality rate was 0.

@DJ

If you don’t get it I’m not going to waste my time trying to explain it again.

Stu
A clever cartoon and post from you in keeping with your Avant Garde approach to journalism. Having decades of family service to the SNP I can’t help feeling we have lost something. On the streets in 2014 the same questions are arising that have done so today. Currency etc. Nicola is in her comfort zone. Arguing about process rather than the case for Independence. I heard Andy MacIver today state the case for IndyRef2 because Unionists were dying off (BBC Scotland). But so are Independence supporters albeit in less numbers. The world doesn’t revolve around 16 year olds. My team is oot the cup so maybe I just feeling doon. Keep going..

@Mark Boyle

Once you delve into Sturgeons past it becomes clear that she has never been suitable for politics and that the behaviour we see today is just a continuation of how she has always behaved.

Salmond probably thought he could use her psychopathic tendencies to his advantage, he didn’t realise that she was playing him from day 1 and that from the moment he took her under his wing she was biding her time to plunge the knife into his back.

Alex Salmond is a good man at heart, he just didn’t legislate for the evil that is inside Nicola Sturgeon but to be fair to him psychopaths like her are very good at hiding their true selves and manipulating people. It’s what they do.

MaggieC says:
9 May, 2021 at 1:19 pm
From Women.Scot twitter account ,

James Dreyfuss is fantastic , LOL .

Laugh? I nearly pished myself 🙂

Alex Salmond lost us the referendum in 2014? Silly me, I thought he was the one who got the referendum for us and who very nearly won it with us.
Where was Rhiannon Spears in 2014? She sure as shooting was not around Pollok during the campaign. I am sure I would have rememered her. Where did she campaign for Independence in 2014? Does anyone remember?
She was parachuted in to Pollok in 2015 for the Council election over the heads of many local and better qualified activists and has been something of a vacant space ever since. (Too busy sucking up to important people in the SNP?)
Her organisation skills are such that she tried to take control of the local SNP branch at an AGM and quite simply ran into a shut door with her eyes open.

The simple but often overlooked fact is, that Scotland will never be allowed to leave this union. Its just too valuable an asset to Westminster.

Westminster will never agree to a second indyref, the first one gave them one hell of a fright, and that can never be allowed to happen again.

Think about it our parliament in packed full of of MSPs who favour the union, our state and corporate media is controlled by other countries, none of whom want to see an independent Scotland. I’d go as far as to say our universities police and crown all support the union as well.

Our parliament gives off the illusion that we control our destiny, we don’t bar a Scottish revolution, and the folk of Scotland are far too meek for that, nothing will change.

But I here you say 64 seats for the SNP so Scots must want independence, but how many Labour voters gave their vote to the SNP because they think Sturgeons doing a good job, but don’t actually want independence, the same goes for SNP voters and Tory and Green voters.

At least ALBA had the courage to stand up for what it believed in, unlike the Trans-nutters who had to bushwhack the Independence Movement, nick it’s electoral mandate, then pass it off as their own.

Some democracies would call that a scam.

Was there a debate on GRA reform? Did I miss it? Was it in the SNP manifesto?

The general public never got to hear about any of Alba’s policies so the public haven’t rejected anything. If, perhaps, the establishment had allowed Alba a fair hearing, they could have used that line, but silencing a party, trashing their reputation based on lies, then trying to pretend the public rejected the party on something no one knew anything about is pure fantastical thinking.

The SNP are a narrow focus ideological minority party, not one that represents the majority population – they are still selling themselves on vote-winning policies that they have no interest in, not exactly a morally superior position to take, when they seem to be unwilling to come clean and state what their extremist flat-earther style ideology is. If they can’t sell what their true goals are in public, openly and honestly, then it must be that they know the public are not going to be in favour of them. To deceive people in such a manner but claim the moral high ground is unrealistic; to have that behaviour associated with independence is not going to be benificial.

Deception-wise, the SNP seem to be worse than the Tories.

Anyway, I have no interest in the SNP – it’s a unionist party, with extremist weirdo values – and it’s pointless appealing to them for reason. I notice that many SNP supporters, after voting in a ton of unionist (straight up ones that admit they are unionist) MSPs, with no shame, are making comments like ‘you’d better be nice to me or I won’t support Alba’ (and things like, all Alba people say nasty things) – ah so the emotional blackmail continues. Well, we have a choice of political party now, and if they don’t agree with a party’s policies or culture, then don’t support them – what has ‘being nice’ got to do with anything? Particularly when ‘being nice’ seems to actually mean ‘never criticise me even if I’ve been a complete arsehole’.

As far as I’m concerned, no one has to unite in anything – if we ever get a choice of Yes or No to the constitutional question, some coordinated action in campaigning will be good, but we are unlikely to get that choice anytime soon – as long as I have a choice of parties to vote for that includes a de facto pro-Indy stance, I don’t need to even contemplate the small minded factionalism, and frankly unpleasant, politics of one party. I reserve the right to criticise who I like, as a reasonable observer, and to not have to be ‘nice’ to anyone to curry favour that isn’t really favour but a form of coercion to stifle opinion and free expression. To homogenise us all into the SNP ideology robotic mantras.

Putting aside all of our personal views on Salmond, should we not ask why the odious neoliberal, pro-Israel apartheid, pro-neocon worldview of McDonald isn’t being exposed, far less challenged, by the mainstream media?

I’ve said for years, the SNP happy clappers need to have the honest conversation among themselves as to why, despite the SNP heirarchy being afforded airtime and a modicum of respect by the mainstream media and establishment, the actual concept of independence hasn’t won a single ounce of reprieve. Not one ounce.

@ Chris Downie

Indeed, this link provides some info on that subject.

link to wingsoverscotland.com

The SNPs arse looks enormous in that dress.

The public aren’t interested in debating these issues.

However an individual case can capture the public imagination.

If Sky or a tabloid runs with, for example, a teenager regretting his sex change then the whole policy could be called into question and the politicians responsible defenistrated.

I’ve known people who knew Dear Leader during her student days and they weren’t particularly complimentary about her, shall we say. Got to wonder how she was allowed to rise to where she is if she seems to have the track record and personality she has. Terrible filtering and common sense in action.

1. Identify a respected institution.
2. kill it.
3. gut it.
4. wear its carcass as a skin suit, while demanding respect.

Dr Craig Dalzell’s assessment of the election and what may transpire from it.

link to thecommongreen.scot

To be fair to NS, determination and ruthlessness are two of her strongest abilities. Its not surprising she rose.

Wasn’t she going to stand as leader when AS decided that he’d like another crack at the top job? He phoned her, and asked her to stand as his deputy instead, and promised to do all in his power to assist her to the leadership afterwards. He kept his word, which is a pity.

I always wished he hadn’t stood down so quickly after indyref, it was a bad mistake. When Michael Howard remained Tory leader for a few months, so a full, unrushed debate could be had in the interim, he did the Conservatives a big favour. I understand Salmond thought he was behaving with honour, and he was, but what a price.

Nicola will do the same, but for different reasons – she wants to annoint her successor for control reasons, and to settle scores.

One SNP MSP promised me back at the beginning of this year – February, I think (I can check it out) – that if a GRA Reform Bill was introduced at Holyrood, he would vote against it. I have it in writing. He was re-elected on May 6th.

So, yes, let’s (encourage other people to) campaign for GRA Reform. Then those of us who are disinclined can campaign for a referendum on GRA Reform. Let’s make it high profile: since independence is not going to be such a top priority, from Day 1 of the new parliament (now that Alba is not there), let’s make GRA Reform the talking point instead.

Left, right and centre.

And let’s see which way the likes of my anti-GRA Reform MSP will vote.

Basically, let’s shame them all. From Day One. Let’s see what they are made of!

Just a thought … (Maybe not a very serious one, but a thought all the same …)

No point in harping on about voter fraud or postal voting. Although it happened in small densely populated areas of five or six states and lost Donal-John the election, the demographics are completely different and it just could not happen here.
In America many of the inner cities are populated by immigrants living in hell hole conditions, many whom are unable to speak English these areas are ruled by militias like BLM and Antifa and they make bloody sure that the immigrants and most of the poor people vote Democrat or ELSE.
The distribution of mail in voting forms to everyone regardless whether they requested them or not, greatly assisted this enterprise.

Our election was not stolen the blame lies squarely on ourselves.

@ Ottomanboi at 1:18 pm

“When might we expect the first msp defections to ALBA.”

I posted a couple of days ago, regarding Hanvey, and jumping ship.
as this is similar, I don’t see any deflections, the slippers are getting warmed up and settling in (again)

Breeks says “But let’s have the debate now, right at the top of the agenda, in the public’s face, and demand a referendum on GRA Reform and throwback to the dark ages. Let’s get the Transweirdos standing up for their own mandate instead of just hijacking ours.

GRA-Referendum NOW!”

I’m up for that – a true public consultation with live debates on the BBC & STV – I wonder what the general public will make of it? Even if there are no opposition in the debates it will be interesting to see how the public react. If they vote for it, then fair doos, we are stuck with it – but at least it won’t be secretly imposed on us.

Out of interest, is there anywhere else on planet Earth where over a million votes cast for a single Party would return just two seats?

Meanwhile the Emz be like.

link to youtube.com

…Our election was not stolen the blame lies squarely on ourselves.

I’m not sure you can call it “our” election given the State monopoly on media propaganda and indoctrination which has the brass neck to airbrush ALBA out of the picture and prevent a former Scottish First Minister from joining the Leaders Debates broadcast into every home.

How can Scotland ever hold fair elections when the Scottish people is force fed a toxic diet UK Indoctrination and denied any independent Scottish Broadcasting, and the UK Electoral Commission and OFCOM rubber stamp the UK bias and prejudices every vote?

Is it really any wonder so many people do not trust the Establishment when it comes to Election probity?

Still can’t belief the state of Scottish politics is in ,the sense of pride and national identity that the independence movement generated has been hijacked by the SNP
Opposition to any of the policies and actions is to be unscottish and disloyal ,left in the dark by the MSM and lapping up the blame the English culture
The narrative requires change if independence is to move forward but 5 more years of this lot and Scotland’s broke and a dictatorship on and yes I feel Alba,s SNP first giving permission to them still clinging on to the hope it can change has helped cause this You get what you vote for in the end

If they vote for it, then fair doos, we are stuck with it – but at least it won’t be secretly imposed on us..

Aye, but how sweet would it be to purge every last drop of this toxic divisive garbage out of the Independence Debate and just be rid of these interfering, freeloading mandate usurpers?

Met this morning with a friend of mine who is an SNP member, high up enough to have attended three meetings with Nicola, Peter & co. and lots with the SYP in the past. He was telling me people within the party were fuming after John Mason’s speech yesterday, whatsapps back and forth between one another with some of them already asking when he will be sacked, and that a huge number of SNP members are sick and tired of the trans agenda and how it’s pretty much forced down their throats.

My friend has also confirmed there are lots of young people not keen on the trans agenda by any stretch of the imagination either but they’re afraid to speak up. What I got from this chat is that there are lots of party members who will put pressure on Nicola to call for a second independence referendum within the next two years and that the party from within is in turmoil, completely split in two bands.

Another SNP member I know, this time from Dundee, phoned me this morning to tell me pretty much the same thing. People are growing really impatient.

I would recommend all of those who are friends with SNP members – I voted SNP1 Alba2 but I am a member of neither; I find being a member of pressure groups far more effective – to have a candid chat with them. In my case it has made me feel a bit more hopeful again that we won’t have to wait for a full decade for independence as that numpty Mason would like us to.

Stoker says:
9 May, 2021 at 4:27 pm
“For those who haven’t seen it ‘ALBA is Here To Stay’”

Yes, but will AS be? I think Alba will need to do a lot of thinking as to whether having him as the face of the alternative independence campaign is ultimately a good thing. I’ve been pilloried before on Wings for daring to even raise this – and i genuinely don’t have any issues with him personally; however, it’s very clear that the voting public do – and have done so since 2017 when his own constituents decided to elect a Tory rather than re-elect him.
It’ll get worse for him before it gets better too, given the concerted character assassination campaign that the SNP have now embarked upon.
They are now very clearly determined to finish him off completely – and it ain’t going to be pretty.

Forgetting and ignoring the constant unionist interruptions telling us to forget about a freedom to chose the right to self determination,
I heard NS state that the people of Scotland are sovereign, and they will chose their future on independence.( that puts payed to those whom claimed it had been given away). and if she believes that as law, then she’s scuppered,
Depending on what we want to do,
Let’s break this down a bit further into details.
As far as law goes our sovereignty does not fall below parliament,
Sovereignty is above parliament if it’s up to us as she says,
Well sovereignty does not have to go through parliament, otherwise it is not sovereignty by logic or law,
It is up to the sovereign people of Scotland what to chose next.
We do not, need Scottish government at all, that by logic is a ploy, a red herring.
It’s a twisting of factual based information by any government in the whole of Britain.
You, we are either totally sovereign and can chose the right to self determination as she says and as the claim of right which was renewed through Westminster a few years ago for the people of Scotland says, and wether the unionist members like it or not on here, the union was also entered into supposedly voluntary by two countries,
We have the right to withdraw from the union if it was a voluntary treaty, in the same way tories/ Westminster/ the parliament of Great Britain has done many times themselves over years,
Unless Westminster considers it a hostage situation with Scotland,
Acknowledged Sovereignty of the people of Scotland by governments does NO longer mean that governments dictate, it’s the people choice,
With the acknowledged right for people to chose the right to self determination in the un,
What facts are left out?
We do not have to go begging the Scottish goverment in elections to prove we have a mandate, any more than NS has to go begging Johnston for a referendum,
Perpetually leaving it up to decide our independence, it’s a ruse, a red herring, a verbal wool over the eyes,
The Westminster parliament does not have a set constitution for Britain, it is not wrote down.
Therefore the devolved government in Scotland by logic hangs on a shoogley peg. It can come and go at a whim of whomever is the decision maker in office of the day.
The one steady long running factor is that the Scottish people hold sovereignty above parliament.agreed by both parliaments over a very long period of time
We have been missing and ignoring a really vital piece of law here, the only steady piece of law we need, We are sovereign to chose, we do not need or have to go begging, we do not need permission from Sturgeon, the greens or any single party or political goverment.
We decide and when.
Now let’s break down the difference between a legal entity like a government declaring UDI.
And a sovereign people of a nation in their own country claiming UDI.
Basically even a devolved government cannot legally claim UDI from its larger entity or government without consent. This is the position NS has taken as a subordinate Scottish government to Westminster. No consent given.
Now the sovereign people are above the legal position of the Scottish government, as the Scottish government has to follow our advice if we want self determination. ( if we chose to go that route) big IF.
We are already sovereign as both the Scottish government and the English government have agreed on this, ( wrote in legislation and in the Scotland act.) we have the right to chose,)
However as sovereign people we do not have to chose that route at all. As sovereign people living in our own country and a nation already, we can do away with the nonsense, by stating in a legal manner we are sovereign And no longer are continuing in the treaty of the union.
It is not illegal for a recognised sovereign people to state what they are chosen for their future, it by any legal sense cannot be declared UDI, when you are already sovereign,
it’s a matter for negotiations afterwards or Everything is returned to the country as it was prior to the union.
It’s a lot of reading I know,
But you’re either sovereign or you’re not, you can not be half way sovereign
.

Ross says:
9 May, 2021 at 12:49 pm
On the topic of total indy/anti indy votes a London hack queried: “what indy supporter wouldn’t vote snp on constituency?”

A woman who doesn’t want to see her rights disappear? Or, anyone who actually wants to see independence this decade.

We asked Alex Salmond if the people of Scotland were sovereign, He said yes,
Nicola sturgeon in a interview yesterday also stated that the people are sovereign,
Two, past and present first ministers both stated that the Scottish people are sovereign.
It cannot be given away by someone else, other than yourself,

@James Che. 9 May, 2021 at 6:01 pm

“…….It’s a lot of reading I know,But you’re either sovereign or you’re not, you can not be half way sovereign”

TLDR : You are one confused soul James and that was nothing but a poorly informed rant. Do you know what “UK Supreme Court will uphold the supremacy of the Westminster parliament.” means ?

link to twitter.com