The Great Ribbon Terror
When we suggested yesterday that the SNP was turning into New Labour, we didn’t expect them to go to quite so much trouble to provide us with a timely illustration.
In happier times, almost seven years ago, a united and focused Yes movement had a bit of fun at the expense of Labour MP Ian Murray when he had a huge pearl-clutching fainting fit over someone putting a couple of stickers on his constituency office.
Record-scratch and jump-cut to the 2021 SNP.
There was of course an immediate outpouring of anguished concern over their terrible traumas (from people who don’t give a monkey’s when rape and murder threats are sent to Joanna Cherry or JK Rowling), with many expressing the hope that the police would catch and punish the foul culprits.
So we apologise in advance to any readers who are triggered by the following images of the dreadful and contemptible attacks.
Let’s all just take a moment to recover from the shock.
By our count that’s five tiny stickers, two cards tied with ribbons (one with the image below on it and one with the words “Feminism is the radical idea that women’s safety is more important than men’s feelings”), and a wee bit of slate with “Violating women’s rights is not a human right” written neatly on it in chalk, spread across two locations.
Dear God, the horror.
Apparently that’s now enough to “inspire fear” in women who work for politicians (and both made a point of their staff being female, because we all know women are more easily terrorised by small pieces of coloured paper than men, whose vision is based on movement), and seemingly widely considered a criminal matter by SNP activists.
“Vandalism”, incidentally, requires things to be destroyed or damaged.
Neither untying a ribbon or removing a piece of slate causes damage, and it’s clear from the second pic that even the stickers were easy-peel ones that leave no residue.
Kirsty Blackman says it’s “not a problem” if you disagree with her. But what we can discern from her actions and comments is that that’s only the case if you do it silently. She ignores and/or blocks anyone asking her questions about gender policy on social media, and it’s hard to imagine a disagreement less aggressive than a sticker saying “You’re being rather silly if you think a woman has a willy”, yet Blackman and McKelvie portray even that as a violent and unacceptable campaign of intimidation.
With the SNP’s hate crime bill about to pass into law this month, we can all hope and pray that The Great Ribbon Terror will soon be at an end. Sadly, it looks like it’s going to take the entire concept of free speech and political dissent with it.
I’m getting very tired of the faux outraged brigade.
As someone suggested on a previous thread there should be massive outrage over the dumping of radioactive waste in the beautiful Firth of Clyde, not to mention nuclear weapons being trundle through Glasgow.
Blackman and McKelvie appear to be happy to promote the SNPs negative publicity campaign?
This type of atrocity could scar these politicians for the rest of their lives and it could take seconds running into minutes to remove the offending objects.
“Deceit’s favourite role is playing the victim”. Paul Galindo
It’s going to take the SNP losing seats for them to take any notice.
We can only hope its people like Blackman and McKelvie that go first.
All the reasons we wanted to leave Westminster being duplicated at Holyrood. I despair.
Will a police force that marched with Rangers supporters on Sunday seriously try to claim they were running a criminal investigation into this?
They make me sick with their “fear and terror” nonsense. Otherwise I’m at a complete loss for what to say about it all.
I have offered them the wisdom of my 5yr old granddaughter to explain the definition of vandalism as well as the definition of a woman. I fear that such explanations though, may well be too much for their tortured souls to deal with. Hysteria, coupled with outrage, appear to be the way they deal with everything now. How on earth will they cope if something really awful happens in their lives?
A pair of wimps with not a backbone between them neither would have lasted 5 minutes in the hustings of old where you had to persuade the crowd a) to listen to what you stood for b) enlist their support and vote on pain of being pelted with rotten eggs and over-ripe tomatoes. The sense of entitlement oozing from both of them is sickening, they need to earn votes this time around.
I find the name Blackman offensive. And she chose to take it.
They should have went to my school, you could have a reign of terror there with a balloon on a stick, my school was called Sir Pansies Primary………… heh heh heh, the two rons
Oh well, it definately won’t be SNP 2 for me in Highland Region. Thanks Emma Roddick for clarifying your position, it will save me the bother of reading up on what you stand for.
I hope the Hate Crime Bill has provision for the return of the stocks as I can think of nothing more Hateful than the truly shocking and disgusting ‘You’re being rather silly if you think a woman has a willy’. The hurt and trauma caused is so unimaginable only a week of rotting vegetable abuse in a public place would come close to atonement.
I like to take a positive view. This pathetic pearl clutching is just another joker on their house of cards, and the wind is picking up.
Kirsty “Blackman” is herself becoming problematical – she should change her name to
PersonOfColour-TransWoman
that’s better.
I read somewhere that the sad truth may be that these people are so immersed in their weird Alice in Wonderland world that they actually do feel afraid and triggered.
However I subscribe to the notion that they are just manipulative all round nasty people who will do anything for power.
O/T got my SNP begging thing this morning expecting me to sell tickets for their raffle, not even opened, straight in the recycle bin.
No matter how many times I tell them they just can’t seem to get the message, I’m not a member any more!!!
What do you get when you combine a table tennis ball with a large chamber pot
A ping pong peedle high poe……………….. lol
The usual suspects sending their love and strength! I despair with this lot I really do. It would be funny if not for the incoming Hate Crime Bill!
Just imagine these folk in the trenches with you while you fight for independence? Maybe just as well it looks like we’ll never have to.
I got my raffle tickets this morning to, bin right away, kept the little stickers with my name and address on them, might come in useful some day, but only if I snip that little SNP abomination off them
I become more embarrassed every day that I ever voted for this SNP. I know there are still some good people in the Party but if they don’t make themselves known soon by calling out all this nonsense they will, deservedly, go down with the ship. Scots can create another Independence Party but these idiots won’t be able to recreate their careers as politicians & there just aren’t enough think tanks to employ them all. The real world awaits, they won’t get such an easy ride again.
New SNP =
The (S)ociopathic,
(N)arcissist (P)arty.
Meantime, Scottish Labour candidate Hollie Cameron has been dropped like a brick for hinting at support for another Independence Referendum.
The irony being the police will respond to this “crime”, take statements and record it as a hate crime.
Whereas if you are burgled or have your car broken into, you will be given (at best) a crime number and told that the local police force do not investigate crime any more as they are all tied up on social issues.
PTSD Post Traumatic Sticker Drama
Reports that the “Justice” secretary has been a naughty boy on SM..
Don’t know about fear and intimidation felt at reading those stickers, but the idea that a woman has a willy made me burst out laughing at the ridiculousness of the concept. SNP need to get a grip because they have lost the plot that this is going to be accepted by the populace
I understand it’s as yet undecided whether Christina and Kirsty will be interviewed by Oprah individually or together.
If you disagree silently, you can’t inform anyone else of the SNP’s plans, you see.
If they can’t cope with some ribbons and stickers because they’re women, how are they going to cope when a great big hairy man turns up in their toilet waving a certificate….
@ Annie 621 at 12:01 pm
and there was me thinking it stood for Sturgeon’s Narcissist Perverts
Bunch of self supporting group of jokers in their own wee Valhalla
Yes Westviews..
Just ask children.
If that’s their views on some stickers & ribbons i’d love to know their views on the destruction in Glasgow over the weekend because not one of them have expressed any that i’m aware of. Surely they’ll be wanting the Britnats hung, drawn & quartered eh?
I’m so glad i made the decision i’ll never participate in another Westminster election again. Only angry with myself i didn’t make that decision sooner, a lot sooner.
Anyone heard anything yet of this “great news” coming down the line for all us indy supporters that jeggit was hinting at a week or so ago?
When the HCB comes into law, there will be nationwide hunts to find the perps and they will be strung up, this is getting out of hand, bring back sticks & stones!
The horror! The horror!
I will always vote for independence but I will not vote for supporters of the trans cult and their attempt to silence free speech.
You cannot be born in the wrong body.
You cannot change sex.
Email your SNP candidates. The only thing politicians fear is lack of support.
The woke brigade can have as many genders as they wish. Not a problem.
But there are only two sexes. Single-sex spaces should be just that.
Dumb Unicorn says:
9 March, 2021 at 12:09 pm
If they can’t cope with some ribbons and stickers because they’re women, how are they going to cope when a great big hairy man turns up in their toilet waving a certificate….
It’s not the certificate waving about that worries me…
Victimhood and demands for sympathy (especially while actively harming others but pretending you’re the victim) is a major trait of narcissism, sociopathy and psychopathy. How do we have so many of them in Scotland now?
I recall reading Jon Ronson’s ‘The Psychopath Test’ and one of the interesting throwaway lines from it was that Scotland’s prisons had virtually no psychopaths in them at all. The explanation was that people with such personalities tend to migrate towards where the power and money is, hence Scottish psychopaths ended up in London. I wonder if independence coming closer is creating a new area for them, along with others from rUK, America and further afield, and it’s something Scotland isn’t prepared to cope with?
Dumb Unicorn says:
9 March, 2021 at 12:09 pm
If they can’t cope with some ribbons and stickers because they’re women, how are they going to cope when a great big hairy man turns up in their toilet waving a certificate….
It might not be just a certificate thy are waving!
Christina and Kirsty should look at this as an enhancement to their office.They are political offices after all. I have a Black Lives Matter poster in my (work from home office) window, it is very attractive. The ribbons and notes left at Christina’s office are very pretty. Would they still have objected and cried ‘Vandalism’ if the message was a different one?
Here’s little naive me thinking the ribbons look quite pretty.
Another nail in the SNP coffin. Stupid bastards!
btw, I should add to that post, I don’t think Blackman and McKelvie are necessarily psychopaths, but a lot of people pulling the strings in this current movement certainly are.
Slate Crimes are the most upsetting.
“The tables covered in beer
Showbiz whines, minute detail
Its a hand on the shoulder in Leicester Square
Its vaudeville pub back room dusty pictures of
White frocked girls and music teachers
The beds too clean
The waters poison for the system
Then you know in your brain
LEAVE THE CAPITOL!
EXIT THIS ROMAN SHELL!”
The Fall, ‘Slates’ 10″ EP, 1981
That looks like legitimate protest to me.
I take it none of the real female members of Sturgeon’s Nasty Party dabbled in stickers during their teenage years? Mind you, the way some of them act i think they’ve yet to reach that era, they’re still stuck in primary school.
So a couple of stickers and ribbons?
Wonder how Ms McKellen and Blackman would cope with the level of actual abuse Joanna Cherry had to endure.
The faux outrage and victimhood is hilarious.
What exactly is Blackman’s obsession with gender politics? It seems to be the only thing she is remotely interested in these days. How many trans people are there in Aberdeen North that requires this level of day and night political activism on their behalf??? I’ve lived in the North East my whole life and only ever seen about 4 or 5. I just don’t get it.
Reposted from earlier thread.
link to holyrood.com
Even for those who still believe in and trust in these ‘outraged’* people, those tweets are a bad, bad look for the party supposedly in power and authority.
*Saving their outrage for pro-independence supporters and those actually concerned over erosion of women’s rights, while settling-in to lucrative positions and ignoring Scotland’s plight under London rule.
I reckon I’ve already advised about 6 or 7 family and friends not to vote for this come May – that’s just a start. No, I won’t be a hypocrite, I’ll spoil the first vote and choose a pro-indy party for second vote.
These people are a joke.
Christina McKelvie is a veteran SNP activist,any success achieved had to be earned.Sad that she has got involved in the transgender nonsense.
Och the poor wee souls. Snigger.
The more years that I need to endure this bunch of arseholes inhabiting the same breathing space as me, the more I pray for Faslane’s nuclear stockpile to errupt and wipe us all out. I don’t think independence will rid us of the ultra ‘woke’ which means atomic obliteration is what we deserve.
the fake outrage from the so called Yes movement in the SNP is so cringing. Less brave heart and more like daisy chains each and every one of them. God forbid letting them have a continuation of power after May. Its all virtue signalling. The indy bus has been catapulted into the river. Its like watching a train crash in slo-mo. I will not vote for this shower in May. My conscience would never allow me to for so many reasons. So gutted with them.
Realise I must have missed some of the detail however can’t see how protecting women’s rights would scare an office of all female staff. Understand it it was calls to look at male issues such as mental and physical health, suicide rates, homeless and poverty figures, male victims of DV etc. but protecting women’s rights, nope, don’t get it.
O.K. folks – Here is a plan.
I would be grateful if the rev could organize a fundraiser for any SNP candidate on the list who wishes to challenge the legally dubious idea that BAME and self-identifying disabled folk should top the regional list.
If the sum raised is significant then that might prompt someone to challenge oswald’s disgusting stitch up.
If the candidates are too cowardly then the money raised could be given to any independence candidate standing in nicola sturgeon’s, humza useless’s or shirley ann somerville’s seat. Or the rev might like to use it to buy a billboard pointing out some facet of the thought crime bill or the genderwoowoo nonsense in any of the above seats.
That would make the self-identifying carpetbaggers more than raging.
I think this is a win/win for the sake of a tenner.
Who is with me ?
Charles. 12.17.
The SNP has become a Middle Class Revolt that’s been Perverted by Language.
I wonder has it crossed their tiny minds that a likely reason for this terrifying and intimidating ribbon protest is that they reject any other reasonable approach to open debate about gender policy, thus leaving people who feel strongly no other option to make their voices heard?
And if they are going to classify ribbons and stickers as
‘hate’, then in the new Orwellian Scotland everybody who has the temerity to make a peaceful protest, or raise an issue for debate will be liable to prosecution. Oh brave new dawn.
Peeing my pants over this. The saga gets the Hitler inthe bunker caption treatment.
link to captiongenerator.com
Thoughts and prayers go out to these incredibly brave and strong people with uteri
O/T
Crown Office hands over messages Alex Salmond claims ‘prove plot’ against him
link to archive.is
Yvonne
liked your Tweet
Things that upset me:
Scotland’s people being cut off from Europe.
Nuclear weapons near our largest city
Scotland’s resources stolen year after year
Illiberal legislation
Things that don’t upset me
Ribbons
Stickers
Chalk
Stonefree,
Yes, It’s clear by now there’s one thing it doesn’t stand for,
Independence for Scotland.
Ach, some make take a bit of solace from this then.
link to twitter.com
I wanted to post an immediate response to this outrage but I had to take a wee walk for a bit of fresh air. I can barely type such is the shock and the horror.
The Hate crime Bill can’t come into law soon enough so we can use it for these crimes. It’s important we defend tolerance by having a zero tolerance policy towards anyone who disagrees with us.
It’s essential that police officers are taken away from celebrating Rangers’ league victory duties and redeployed to catch those responsible starting with Alex Salmond.
Haven’t they heard of Free Speech or Wasting Police Time?
Fat cat careerists are on a hefty wage from the public purse and girn about anything for attention. They should all have their wages CUT to the average wage! But which job should they get the wages cut in? The first second or third bloody job!? It would stop Mr hepburn being shocked about SCotland as a low wage economy. How would he know on over £80k per year and his wife getting a placed charity job having worked for Cult leader Swinney! Jobs for the boys and the girls on the gravy train.I had to sit on a poverty action committee and listen to an SNP cllr bleat she ahd lost one of her jobs! I almost spewed. Some have 3 jobs then dare speak about the poor and unemployed. They could help the unemployed by having ONE JOB!
Sharny Dubs
I feel afraid and triggered too. After working remote for so long, seeing a photograph with what appears to be a post-it note was very upsetting.
Bravo to the despicable vandals. Such excellent slogans and the destruction wrought was tastefully done.
My sincere condolences to the traumatised MP I hope she recovers soon ,
Maybe this is not the right line of work you have chosen Mrs just a thought,
This is right up there with Jims ” Egg ” frightening , and that poor guy is still in severe shock ,
What is this country turning into , its all Salmonds fault he started all this ,
Meanwhile real environmental vandalism is taking place and isn’t being covered as pointed to up page on the grand scale of things this merits as much attention as my cat farting.
I’m still chuckling, though Christina blocked me. I can’t remember if it was for pointing out her woeful spelling of the word “eejit” or just for breathing.
Do SNP MSPs only employ women? If so, how is that equality?
1) I hope that well known woman hater Alec Salmond has an alibi. A ‘task force’ will be convening forthwith.
2) I know what an ‘eejit’ is. But what is an “eegit”? Is it one of these weird newisms like a Terf, Werf, Snerf, Fnarf, Turf, Larf, Whorf, Cis, His, Miss, Wap, Emf, Klf, Mfi, MI5???? I canny keep up.
A monster created by yourselves when the movement and its attack dogs in the media were using a scattershot approach with the words racist, fascist, xenophobe, illeducated etc on anyone who dared to bring up imported organised crime in the FMs constituency. You went along with it when it suited yous and now it has taken over the party in power and was always in control of the coalition partner party and now the tail wags the dog.
It’d be funny if it wasn’t a takeover of the political apparatus of our country.
Great article from Barrhead Boy.
Just about sums it up.
link to barrheadboy.com
The SNP have lost the plot – in more ways than one.
This is looking like the first election since I was old enough to vote where I will be spoiling my ballot paper(s).
I honestly can’t find a reason strong enough to vote for any party standing in May.
Sad days.
Stu you swine.! Have no never heard of a paper cut? As for ribbons ? Surely the sign of Terfdom, and a totem for those who want female rights protected.
What next? Lipstick on the door handle? Call Poirot post haste. Why are office workers being subjected to the equivalent of First World war trench tactics?
Sigh.
There’s nothing they love more than playing the victim card, as several of them did against Salmond. It is an insult to actual victims of crime and diminishes real suffering, wasting valuable resources. Apparently they think it scores them points, gaining sympathy while allowing them to take an entirely fictitious and faux moral high ground. It debases politics, trolling the public.
Robert Graham. 12.37.
If you are going to mention cats passing wind, could you please provide a trigger warning.
I’m going to have to go and lie down now for several weeks.
No, Wee Willie, they’re not. You may laugh at them, but in time, that too will be “violence”.
Is having an a female staff something people should be bragging about?
I don’t know what to say.
These people are deranged.
Poverty increasing, livlihoods being lost, mental health issues increasing, lockdown for weeks more, these people have no shame, none at all.
You can’t converse with them because they live on a different planet.
Why can’t more people see how awful they are?
Oh the poor dears. Hang on while I look for my violin.
“And for me some scarlet ribbons, scarlet ribbons for my hair . . .” EVIL NAZI FASCIST HATE CRIME!
“Tie a yellow ribbon ’round the ole oak tree” ECO-VANDALISM!
“Ribbons, scarlet ribbons, carouselling in the sun” CLIMATE CHANGE DENIER!
“Got ribbon with a bow on it baby” TRANSPHOBIC GENDERIST CHILD ABUSER!
“I tried to tell her about Marx and Engels, God and Angels, I don’t really know what for. But she looked good in ribbons”
Go straight to the top of the list for Lothian!
The only way to stop these heinous and abhorrent crimes is to bring back the death penalty! If you vote for any other Party other than the SNP that should attract the same penalty. Something for Hamza to contemplate.
Traumatised by justifiable, positive stickers !!!
I remember having to check under my car with a mirror on a stick for bombs back in the early eighties when the IRA went walk about…when I remembered. Don’t think i was ever traumatised.
@astonish.
My first ever post here to say that is a damn fine idea.
In fairness, by the time Evans and Sturgeon are finished with this, this ‘vandalism’ will have morphed into the entire office block destroyed by fire, with slogans machine gunned into the walls and a horses head wedged into the ice box.
James Wolffe will have the 400 members of Salmond Heavy Squad sent in to lean on some witnesses, and plant some Alex Salmond business cards down the back of the sofa to prove it was him wot dun it.
Vote SNP 1 and 2 ?
Above article lets you see exactly what you would be voting for. Not compelling is it?
They better be careful in case a future Administration implements a retrospective “Hysterical Accusations of Vandalism Bill”.
Should I presume all these whining muppets also had plenty to say about the actual destruction of the memorial benches in George Square over the weekend?
The main point is that a very mild symbolic protest on the issue of Women’s Rights was distorted to close down their voice.
This trivia was made to sound like Kristallnacht in 1939.
This is why the Hate Bill should be feared. This is the type of person who is going to legislate on “hate” definition – be sfraid!
These local craft groups are well dangerous with their scissors, glue and pom-poms…..hope there’s a full police investigation!!!
Strength and solidarity to our traumatised SNP staffers and MSPs.
So are Blackman and McKelvie putting their office staff at risk of Covid and wilfully ignoring Scottish Government guidance that where employees can work from home they should?
Pathetic that these SNP elected officials except us to believe that they are so precious this has caused fear and alarm but at the same time that they are the only ones strong enough to get Scottish Independence!
hmm, according to the Scotsman (which I don’t subscribe to)
the “records-of-nicola-sturgeon-meetings-with-alex-salmond-cannot-be-found-john-swinney-confirms-”
looks like the party amnesia/spring cleaning is spreading in ernest!!
Terry says:
9 March, 2021 at 12:31 pm
Peeing my pants over this. The saga gets the Hitler inthe bunker caption treatment.
link to captiongenerator.com
Whoever did this Hitler caption thing deserves a sticker and ribbon. Are the SNP going for novotesSNP this year?
re my post @1:01pm here’s the link (if it posts, sorry Stu, new at this)
link to scotsman.com
Dan says:
9 March, 2021 at 12:34 pm
Ach, some make take a bit of solace from this then.
link to twitter.com
Interesting! Presumably a payment in apology for assertions wrongly made against Phillimore (from memory, anti-semitism?) Wonder if Blackman paid out of her own pocket or if it came from SNP funds like another well-known person who was careless with their words….
The Snp and all the other parties need to learn that they won’t stop strong Scottish women from talking and I presume that they’ll be busy organising new Women’s prisons because we won’t Wheest for indy .
#WomenWontWheest
#WomenWontWheest
Link to Snp Women’s pledge group petition and please sign it if you haven’t already done so ,
link to secure.avaaz.org
Those poor SNP staff members must have been so distraught as they no longer understand what a political challenge actually is because queen Nic has them all happy clapping together and promised them a hate crime bill which will completely silence any criticism. New Labour? This is far worse and shows no sign of ending anything soon. No wonder the Yes vote is slipping in the polls with many fearful of being stuck in an independent Scotland with a dictatorship like this!
And something not a million lightyears from the above mimsy, primsy snowflakery.
link to d-dean.medium.com
Under Covidian cult our world and all the people in it have become dangerous. Do not enter it without a mask, hand sanitizer, two metre rule and a pair of little pricks to prove you’ve been done.
Any more of this protection from the nasties and the human race, that bit afraid of dirt, irony and lively rhetoric, may become so genetically and intellectually feeble it could well die out.
They’d be missed, wouldn’t they?
@Ramis Jenkins, ”
” Whoever did this deserves a sticker and a ribbon”
Monster. Were you a torturer for Saddam Hussain?
Tie a “hateful” ribbon round a constituency office railing?
There’s a hit track in there somewhere.
There surely cannot be much else left for the Pureocracy to get apoplectic about beyond allegations of the sheer act of “hatred” arising from existing in time and space with the wrong attitude or point of view and looking at someone in a funny way?
@K Campbell
Your link archived:-
link to archive.is
Those objecting to the chalk boards are obviously bigoted calxophobes. I hope the new Hate Crime Bill will deal sharply and swiftly with their nasty intolerance.
Funny, I’d just mentioned the Ian Murray incident to somebody on Twitter, because that’s exactly what it reminded me of.
Wouldn’t be surprised if posting Yes stickers becomes a criminal offence.
@ Menstruator at 1.05
No, Paisley and Blackman did not even apologize:
link to twitter.com
link to twitter.com
I have to admit I’m disappointed by this, though of course I understand why Sarah took the decision not to risk it, and am pleased by her choice of recipients for the crowd-funded money.
How did these women ever get to the positions they hold if they are reeling in horror at a few politely worded stickers and small ribbon-tied posters?
And to think I never thought to be traumatised at being called a stupid old biddy, a mad woman, a f*****’ nutter, an auld half wit and other jolly greetings by Unionist men while I was staffing street stalls for the SNP (when I was still a member) and the YES movement before and since the Referendum.
Ramis Jenkins says:
The Hitler treatment gave me the best laugh in ages.
Now what can be done with Boris and the others ?
Thanks K Campbell at 1:05pm.
Here’s the link Archived:
link to archive.is
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I didn’t quite understand the new phrase of “virtue signaling”. With the fake pity-me cries of support quoted above I do now.
Stuart, the human detritus that are “rallying around” these bent and corrupt MSPs ought to consider the phrase….
“Evil triumphs when good men (and women) fail to act”.
Where were these people you quote in the Twitter boxes above when Alex Salmond was being framed by that contemptible abuse of police resources by MR Iain Livingstone?
Where were the Sturgeonite McWokeists when the Clown Office were committing malfeasance in public office?
No noise. No Twieets. No Twits. No Twats. Well maybe a few twats, but these McWoke people are fools. Worse, they are dangerous idiots. They have gotten away with their clever little plan so far. They will try it on right up until THE BACKLASH. That is the point when THRAWN Scots realise they have been conned by this political scum who gerrymandered the system to corruptly OBTAIN PROPERTY OR PECUNIARY ADVANTAGE BY DECEPTION (fraudulently obtaining a job by use of a bent CV as the Rasta gentleman will discover prior to his next Artist In Residence period at his local HMP).
It was THRAWN Scots, who responded to being cheated by “The Vow” from that slimey Daily Record that went on to VOTE IN 56 SNP MPs.
The same Scots who VOTED OUT 21 SNP MPs in 2017 as a warning shot to Nicola Sturgeon.
Nope, that “vandalism” evidenced above is the gentlest, most elegant use of TRUE political opposition with those ribbons laden with great significant meaning for real women. The “adult female” DNA variety. Not to take away the rights of the Trans gender community. Just stop the Trans gender community acting corruptly by their current infiltration of the Scottish party of governance. The McWokeists have REMOVED the right of Scots to vote on IndyRef2.
Declan Blanch is on the SNP NEC and has it on his Twatter feed. Drag Queens second. Trans Gender first. Then IndyRef third or fourth down the list of THEIR SNP.
The McWokes also REMOVED my rights as a person with an ATOS assessed disability by imposter fakery with their “self-assessed” would-be disabled wannabe MSPs. This who exaggerate an adopted lisp into full-blown Tourette’s syndrome to steal a very well paid and powerful job as an MSP. Yes it is hilarious that the McWoke pretendy BAME/DISABLED LIST MSP candidates with a 2% share of the vote have knocked Nicola Sturgeon, Angus Robertson and John Swinney off of the top spots, but it is still wrong to do what the have done. When the truth comes out during Scotland’s forthcoming ORWELLIAN NIGHTMARE, there will be a legal backlash.
The Transgender community whose intolerant elements decided to take over the SNP, including Nicola imposing the DESELECTED and REJECTED NEC failures will do their cause great harm.
At some point, the Scottish electorate will wake up and say ENOUGH.
The question is whether we have a proper, honest functioning government elected on 7th May 2021, or whether the whole nation has to endure four of five years of ORWELLIAN nightmare and show-trials which willl make Alex Salmond and Craig Murrays look like a tea party before we clear out this McWoke Tammany Hall extremism.
Alex if you or any of your former First Minister team are reading this, PLEASE consider one last Herculean effort and lead one of the pro-indy LIST parties. Gaining 15 to 25 LIST MSPs looks to be the only way to save Scotland from five years of more Nicola Sturgeon mayhem.
Shouldn’t it be Kirsty Genderless person of colour?
What the hell happened to Christina McKelvie? She used to be a no-nonsense, straight-talking woman from Easterhouse and seemed the last person to get involved with this sort of whiny, faux-outrage crapola.
“Stay strong!” messages because someone tied a ribbon to a railing? Yet Mhairi Black can drop the C-Bomb on fellow women amd party members and nothing is said. What do you get when you cross a snowflake with a hypocrite?
[Insert kapelmeister answer here]
If the HCB is enacted as expected, this very site’s existent will be threatened. Something else to think about in the dark watches of the night while you wonder how/if to vote in May.
Barrheadboy linked article is very good. The Hitler video too.
Reading Barrheadboy felt like reading the old WGD. Its what WGD should be. I used to think WGD was exceptional. A credit, a force, a voice for indy we were lucky to have. I actually cant read him any more. Indeed he makes it clear I’m not even welcome if I dare question SNP/NS.
Quite a few have made comparisons between the last days of ‘(new) Labour in Scotland’ and the current SNP. I suspect the SNP are going to get a very rude awakening in May. I suspect many pro-Indy SNP voters, of which I have been, will, like me just not turn out to vote for them. I certainly wont be voting for a Britnat party.
What annoys me about this is anyone (WGD) blaming me, or others thinking similarly for the electoral boost this will give to the british nationalists.
The blame for people like me not voting SNP is not my fault. Its the SNPs fault. How cant the Wheeshters see this? The blame for people like me not voting for people who tried to jail AS, then cover it up, who try to force through extremely flawed anti-woman legislation and who don’t mention independence, let alone campaign for it, is not my fault. Its the fault of the person leading the party thats doing all that. It is not my fault there isnt a political party in Scotland with Indy as their flagship policy, it is Nicola Sturgeons fault. Stand with Nicola if you like. Wheesht if you like. See where it gets you. But dont blame people like me who just want Scotland to be a normal country that makes its own decisions for not supporting a party who dont stand for that simple objective. It is entirely right and proper that our ire should be focussed directly in Sturgeon and those around her.
If there is a pro indy party to vote for, they’ll get my vote. If theres none, I wont vote.
To paraphrase that once shining beacon of hope, Mhairi Black. I didnt leave the WGD, he left me. I didnt leave the SNP, the SNP left me.
@Mist001
Nah, that’s Manblack. Person of colour without gender, seems to me to be the correct order.
Ffs anybody seen this poll?
link to mobile.twitter.com
Unbelievable that so many SNP high heid yins are so complacent, arrogant and openly dismissive- there is a fighting chance they will lose the election at this rate!!
The Hate Crime Bill will clear up this sort of confusion.
The term ‘victim’ applies only to the those designated as such by the SNP.
Therefore –
Receipt of ribbons and stickers by the chosen few – hate crime.
Receipt of threats of rape and murder by anyone else – a bit o’ banter.
Well said Grouser. Can you imagine if these people were in charge in an independent Scotland and we were threatened militarily by an external combat hardened force.
The rest of the world must be pissing themselves laughing and Westminster will be rubbing their hands with glee.
Maybe they could;d let us know by how much has Scotland been looted since they have been involved in Scotlands politics.
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Tinto Chiel,
You are absolutely correct.
Also, Stuart Campbell, I know you have written this article in an elegant satirical way to prove the utter ridiculousness of the Sturgeonite Transgender takeover and virtue signaling by the spineless sheep that follow these perceived vandals.
But what is truly terrifying is this…
link to beta.parliament.scot
I deliberately did NOT archive this link and referenced it to leave an electronic fingerprint from myself to someone at ScotGov. There will need be SAR information to see this website making reference to their Hate Crime business motion timetable page. Just in case Scotland does, in fact, become a Sturgeonite McWoke Transgender Thought Police State.
As a former law officer with a disability, I already spy with my little eye a huge gaping heap of ULTRA VIRES in the proposed Hate Crime Bill. Any MSP votes for that DESERVES TO BE DESELECTED as the are unfit to debate, write or pass laws in Scotland or even magical McWoke unicornland.
Who wrote that crap? It’s worse Than the Incoherrent randomly Capitalised pish that was Written by nicola and her tribe of McWoke crooks. Stuart Campbell wrote an article on it the other day.
Thanks CrazyCat.
Blackman’s tweets are rather overwrought. Can hand it out but can’t take it….
Does Eck the Fish have an alibi?
Who knows what they’ll try next.
For me, all these issues currently happening won’t influence whether I vote SNP or not in May.
I already know I won’t vote SNP because the sitting SNP MSP for my constituency – who is also on the List -broke personal promises to me. So, under no circumstances would I vote for him in the constituency or help him get elected via the List.
( I had previously voted for the SNP MSP and continued to vote for the SNP MP in 2019).
I won’t be voting Keir Starmer Labour either. Or Tory. Or Green. Or LibDem.
I don’t know yet who else may be standing in the constituency or List in my area.
So, I haven’t even decided if it’s worth voting.
By simply engaging Bruno Conti in some polite poltical tete a tete he called me a tapeworm.
That they will reach for a ad hominmem and play the man instead of the ball to save them from engaging with the arguments it tells you an awful lot of how twitchy the SNP types are at the moment.
Isn’t there a possibility that all the woke stuff including trans etc has been weaponised by British security services as one kind of divide-and-rule?
Therefore we should still vote SNP (at least on the constituency) and also on the list eg in South or other regions with relatively lower SNP vote? Maybe for next election can vote for serious alternative to SNP if NS, Blackman, McKelvie etc are still pushing woke policies.
OMG!
Poor SNP Woke snowflakes. What has the world come to?
I broke wind on the train this morning. I’m just off to report myself to the Transport Police for my despicable behaviour!
Wanton vandalism of the air others would be forced to inhale.
I am beneath contempt. I am but a worm…
– some deep dives for a dull afternoon
history repeats (mucho wisdom in those old dusty books)
link to unz.com
– there are further parallels in the reformation and the cultural revolution. Wokeism is a lot like a new puritanism.
economics is bollocks, who knew (only everyone) – we know it doesn’t work, but we use it anyway
link to nakedcapitalism.com
the deep, rotten, roots of the fashionable nonsense they are teaching all the kids at uni
link to theothermccain.com
– “perverted by language”, indeed
The SNP as an Independence Party changed after 2014 when many Labour supporters joined the SNP and then Nicola Sturgeon became leader. The Labour Party, as other Unionist parties worked with backhanders and coverups. They seem to have brought their policies with them.
As a lifelong SNP activist of over 50 years, I just do not recognise the SNP any more and it’s devastating. We need proper leadership and until we get it back, this party is going to continue tearing itself apart.
I’m at my wits end trying to see a solution before May, where the possibility of a Unionist party in control at Holyrood is now real.
We were told that good news is coming…..when?
The Christina McKelvie attack is particularly vicious because most of the woke brigade have reading difficulties and so have difficulty understanding the messages and especially the photograph, which has lots of words on it. Thus they feel threatened and bullied by the perpetrators of such an act.
Everything that questions their ideology is ‘terrorism’ to these snowflakes. The underlying irony for any woman should be the fact that this insanity grew out of feminism itself, and should be a valuable lesson in the adverse consequences of extremist ideology of any kind.
We have the identity ideology now, and, coming down the road to meet us at a suitable juncture for it, not for anyone else, is going to be the parallel or twin to the identity stuff, which is queer theory. Its job is to actually do the legwork needed to secure total freedom from identity politics.
That means, for example, tearing down the laws that say that a person should not feel completely free to enter into a relationship, brief or otherwise, with someone or do whatever takes his/her/its/their fancy as the ultimate expression of his/her/its/their freedom and individual autonomy.
On the face of it, total freedom to be whoever you are, to not be bound by societal chains seems like a good thing, and up to a point, possibly is. We have seen from identity politics, though, that it can hurt people, take away their rights and spaces, although that was not the intention. So for queer theory. No one is meant to get hurt. It is a bid to undermine restrictive societal prohibitions and allow new ways of being to emerge. Again, on the face of it, possibly not such a bad idea, and, although nihilism is not its intention, it feels like it might come to that.
Its aim is to democratize morality so that everyone and everything becomes acceptable, but, as we have seen from experiments like this in the past, human nature has a habit of intervening, and selfish and exploitative people emerge to … well, exploit and make selfish decisions. Queer theory, although not specifically tasked with it, would open up sexual boundaries that we have never before openly explored as a society: In**st; pa******lia, for example. What price consent, then? What of bodily integrity? Does this feel like men’s entitlement all over again?
That is why we need to ask the questions now that will matter later: why do men want to infiltrate women’s and girls’ spaces and weaken biological women’s connection with the material reality of their binary sex, and what do they plan to do after they have occupied all our spaces and rights and expelled us from them either by being in our faces and spaces in an aggressive manner or just by being in our faces and spaces and making us feel that we no longer belong there? If we all moved into a different space and called ourselves something other than ‘woman’ would we get peace? The answer to the last question is ‘no’, they would try to oust us from that new space and new name, too, because this is all about them. Why do children and young people require to be dislocated from their parents?
Does anyone remember – I barely do myself – the age of the hippies and peace and free love? As per, it did not turn out to be free love and peace for women or girls, as rapes started to replace consensual sex and pregnancies resulted from all the ‘free’ love. For women, love is rarely ‘free’ and sex never is (it probably isn’t for men either, but many think it is). That’s just for fairy tales and for the vacuous women of the identity politics and queer theory, snowflake tendency who appear unable to see the contradictions.
Independence is dependent on these vacuous, captured people. How ironic is that? In some ways, you have to forgive them because even the best minds in the best universities in the West are spewing out this ordure that passes for deep, philosophical thought. It is based on the works of Foucault and Butler and others.
Human beings are born with imagination, and can use it for all sorts of things, but one of its abilities is to imagine a future, and to imagine what you have to do to get there and what you must avoid doing if you want to get there. Coupled with deductive abilities, we can work out pretty quickly and fairly accurately that, if we do certain things, it WILL lead to this or that, and, if we don’t do certain things, it WILL NOT lead to this or that.
The other ability that is so precious that it is invaluable, is the ability to think for yourself; the ability to say: “no, I’m not going to jump off that bridge because so-and-so told me to”; or the ability to reason that if someone wants you to do something that you might feel uncomfortable about, you should be asking why, and what’s in it for them. Sometimes, good, well-meaning people enable the greatest atrocities just by doing nothing or by not questioning when they should have or by not speaking out when they ought to have done so. Likewise, we are allowing our independence to be hi-jacked by people who have no self-awareness.
I wish the people would do as I do when getting mail from the SNP,
Return it via post without a stamp.
Don’t know if it does any good but it makes me feel better.
How very sad!
Stickers and Ribbons are classed as a threat?
I’d better get my Pannini Football stickers handed in
to the police before they are deemed dangerous weapons.
I refuse to look at the Scottish Cup again if they continue to tie
threatening ribbons on to the handles.
PS why mention that the staff are all female?
Are they saying they don’t employ men?
Why are the not employing ethnic minority Trans disabled people?
Winging Woke Wasters!
Well for a man who decided to have a rest because nothing’s happening, you have given us a lot of food for thought in the last week. I hope the arrival of more evidence at the Committee rooms will prompt them to produce even half of your work load.
These ribbons are in the Suffragette colours and the image is of US women campaigners for votes for women with Susan B Anthony’s clarion call
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her sex.”
Is the hysterical response due in part to Christina and Kirsty getting the message?
This trans stuff is nonsense and in 100 years time will be looked on how our generation deems lobotomies to have been a catastrophic mistake.
I have nothing but empathy and sympathy for those who are confused by their gender but these feelings need to be treated as a mental health issue.
IMO this is not a specific SNP /Indy issue.
This is something all of us need to start pushing back on –
Comfy slippers himself is saying security will need to be increased.
link to twitter.com
I’m very close to the “sod indy, let’s vote them out” position. Indy seems so unlikely with them anyway, time to get a new party instead.
Dear Lord!
How could they?! The utter fiends…
To be brutally honest, seeing the harrowing images of such nicely worded stickers being left as a show of gentle protest took me straight back to the 7 months I spent in Iraq as an infantryman. Walking past such pleasant placards must be exactly as traumatic as bimbling about wondering when an attack will occur without warning.
I hope the staff involved are given appropriate and extensive ‘decompression’ training after enduring such a prolonged and horrific assault on their sensibilities.
I doubt those poor souls will ever be the same… ?
I can’t hope to describe the wave of utter relief that swept over me when I realised that this had happened at premises populated by Scotland’s brave “strong” women. God only knows how this savage behaviour would have impacted on your ordinary, run of the mill women.
Something tells me that this wanton destruction was carried out by, em, women. How could these dastardly women carry out such a heartless attack on these heroic “strong” women? It may take some time for them to shake off the fear and trepidation, but I have no doubt that these goddesses of “truth”, “justice” and “hope” will be back to the fray – “stronger” than ever before.
@ Ramis Jenkins at 1.01: thank you for the link to this story as Hitler’s bunker. Tears running down my cheeks. Laughter is the best medicine and it is all we have left in this ludicrous state the SNP has morphed into.
“Any..’statements’ left at my office will be seen by my staff not me”.
So, how do you know there were any ‘statements’ left at your office? Have you tried sticking your fingers in your ears and going La-La-La I’m not listening?
Apart from that illogical nonsense, WHY do you not see ‘statements’ left at your office? What’s the fucking point of even having an office if the public can’t get you to see ‘statements’ left there?
Of course, you WILL see this ‘statement’ so maybe all of your constituents would be better off letting you know what they think by posting comments on Wings.
I must take my share of the blame here, I voted for McKelvie!
I won’t make that mistake again. I was going to vote Labour for the first time since the 1997 GE but then it was pointed out that Labour are also for the GRA. So it looks like a spoiled paper, with as much of a rant as space will allow and a vote for the Independence for Scotland Party on the list.
Could’ve been worse, at least they never put the messages in an envelope and THROUGH THE LETTERBOX.
My God, imagine the trauma if they’d done that! Like terrorism on steroids.
I was trauma’d last week, got a letter from Nicla – apparently – there’s an IndyRef2… ‘in the post’. It really said that.
Which is quite a coincidence, cause so’s my vote – only not for you Nicla, not any more.
Anyway its good they’ve flagged it up, cause this is how it starts you know, wee stickers wi ribbons one day, the next its PLACARDS and before you know it, its Northern Ireland all over again.
Anyway, I’m no well, I’ve got Labyrinthitus, and every time I think its getting better, its like one foot forward and the other foot anywhere else.
They’ve started to parody themselves now. That’s our job. Who can we complain to?
A terrible outrage at being informed via a few small pieces of card and a slate that women are women and other women shouldn’t be undermining their rights, is now seen in the eyes of folk like them as a crime.
It will soon be a crime to call a biological woman, a woman, under this woke SNP government Scotland is fast becoming an overly politically correct state. Where people will be afraid to express even a moderate opinion in public fearing arrest for doing so.
Its akin to the say anything bad about Israel, and you’re anti-Semitic routine.
Somebody needs to poke them with soft cushions
link to twitter.com
While they listen to beautiful music
link to twitter.com
Another wee point from Blackman’s first tweet is that she claims the staff had to clean off the slurs. I saw no slurs on the pieces of paper or the photo, or the slate for that matter.
Meanwhile:
link to theguardian.com
Is this humanity really worth fighting for? Starting to think they deserve what’s coming.
Stalin was an amateur compared to stalin. Suggest you pay more attention to snowdends new stuff. This fight is bigger than independence.
Great Post Lorna. Good god it’s scary stuff.
Courtesy of Graham Lyneham, here’s something coming down the line – schools.
link to grahamlinehan.substack.com
You can imagine my relief when I got to my office this morning and there were no ribbons or stickers plastering the doors and railings. However, there were discarded face masks, crisp packets cigarette ends and other detritus.
Is there any organisation I can complain to?
If I get any of thon yellow leaflets through ma door,especially yellow with black lettering like SNP .
It really will be traumatic for me so I’ll be right onto that Humza guy and demand SNP are dragged through the courts for inflicting poster traumatic distress.
@Daisy Walker 2.37: your imagery of inserting an envelope into a letter-box is so overtly sexual that I am away to clutch my pearls in a darkened room.
Typical of you Ever-Vile Campbell cultists…
*Swoons*
New song by Brotherhood of Self identifying men.
Oh tie a yellow Ribbon round the woke HQ.in a few months time we’ll jailing you. If you object to men in skirts using a women’s loo, Humza Youssef’s hate crime bill will soon be after you. We’ll ban your TERF jokes too.
STICKERGATE 2
Oh,
‘new’labourSNP, what an utter joke you have become.I mocked Iain Murray for similar and now, rightly, mock the ‘women’s rights denier’ kirsty blackman for the same. Will ‘stickers’ be in Humza’s ‘hate everybody’ law?
Meanwhile, in other matters, is Leslie Evans still in her job?
“RECORDS of meetings between Nicola Sturgeon, Permanent Secretary Leslie Evans and the Scottish Government’s legal counsel about the investigation into Alex Salmond cannot be found”
link to heraldscotland.com
Is this a joke? Seriously?
I can’t believe this.
Lot of talk and very little action. Can’t even say TRUST THE PLAN as there doesn’t seem to be one.
Informing true believers does not work and the power that exists in the technocracy does not care about public image. You can’t even protest without permission. Soon speaking will be illegal.
The only freedom you have left is choice.
Choose your own thoughts
Choose your own words
Choose to act on your own volition
So instead of addressing the concerns , she chucks in a false flag of vandalism. Classic deflection technique, Sturgeon taught them well.
The Scottish Labour branch office has dropped its (Glasgow/Kelvin) candidate for May’s elections like a hot potato, after she, Hollie Cameron, expressed positive views on Scottish independence.
The SNP have assumed ownership of the equivalent of the ‘talking stick’-
link to en.wikipedia.org
They should pass it around but they are not going to let go of it anytime soon. They have decided who is allowed to talk and what they are allowed to say. And if people talk out of turn they will attribute meaning and value.
We gave them the power to do that.
Jesus f christ, how will they ever leave the house again, the trauma of stickers is bad enough but ribbons, RIBBONS!. Cuntstables dumb & dumber will be on the case I imagine,taking statements, etch a sketch out making identikit photos of the violent criminals responsible. Beam me up Scotty!
Maureen says:
9 March, 2021 at 12:12 pm
“Dumb Unicorn says:
9 March, 2021 at 12:09 pm
‘If they can’t cope with some ribbons and stickers because they’re women, how are they going to cope when a great big hairy man turns up in their toilet waving a certificate….’
It’s not the certificate waving about that worries me…”
Time to reprise my earlier ditty?
“Middle Wiggle is a biological male..”
Stitch up at Airdrie and Shotts
Many candidates put forward their names as candidates but a committee no one knew about not even the NEC members made up a shortlist of two
Tracey Carragher
Anum Quasir – Javed
The ignored candidates are not happy
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The End of Wings Over Scotland?
Stuart, many of us didn’t understand your focus on this Transgender issue. You were absolutely right about raising that matter. It will define Scotland for a decade. A fate worse tha Covid is headed our way.
Simple question to you Stuart, seeing as you are most at risk of being imprisoned for 1 to 7 years on the basis of uncorroborated evidence if/when the Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Bill receives Royal Assent, will you be closing down the Wings Over Scotland website?
Given the nature of the Bill and the horrendous harbinger nightmare of a very real Orwellian Scotland in just a few weeks, it would be entirely reasonable if you decided to close down this website. Many of us will miss it and be very distressed, but I don’t think anyone here wants to see a fundraiser for your bail.
With regard to Alex Salmond. Sorry my old friend, but you will know what the word “uncorroborated” means in terms of the Bill.
Nicola has stalled for time. The very minute HM Queen Elizabeth signs that Bill, or to be precise the “commencement date” is when Police Scotland will follow orders and find a legal way to come to Strichen and arrest you. Nicola will not miss her target a second time. Alec, as you are at risk of 1 to 7 years in jail on uncorroborated “evidence” that probably explains why neither yourself nor anyone else of political statesman/stateswoman standing is coming forward to join/lead a pro-indy Holyrood LIST party.
We are too late. Nicola has stalled for time and in so doing she has won.
Even if Stuart Campbell keeps this website alive, EVERY ONE reading this is eligible to go to prison for between 1 and 7 years just for visiting this website.
There is even provision in the Bill allowing Police Scotland to enter your home, seize your computer equipment and search the hard drives for “cached” material.
Really sorry about this ladies, gentlemen and all our national treasures from the ruling transgender community, but I was trained in law to the level of arresting and forensically preparing cases that included up to life imprisonment. I wish I did not know about the law. Not today. Not this article Stu., just posted on Wings. It has avalanched matters somewhat.
The Bill, which Stuart reminded us is imminent, is pretty much upon us.
In summary, on Royal Assemt and Commencement Date of the Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Act 2021 coming to pass…
1). The online website Wings Over Scotland will be taken offline and its owner liable to uncorroborated prosecution. Being in prison for 1 to 7 years will hamper any further articles.
2). You, yes you who are merely reading this will be liable to imprisonment upon conviction by evidence from an ucorroborated source and shall serve from a tariff of up to 7 years in prison.
Your computer cache may assist your defense, but only if there has been no amendment/overwriting of what you read. What that means is IF you posted any BTL comment on the soon to be outlawed Wings Over Scotland, the police cybercrime unit examining YOUR seized computer will discover you have made a BTL comment. So your “virgin computer cache” defence goes out of the window and you go through the door of your local HMP. At least you get free room and board. The food ain’t that bad. Also I’ve seen a lot of you at YES rallies. Forgive me but most of the male (him/he) here at BTL are fat and bald, so Mr Big in jail will leave your male virginity intact. If you are under 30 years of age and the type of guy that Derek Mackay fancies, then best start trying out butt plugs and good quality lubricant so you don’t get burst by Mr Big.
3). Alex, my heartfelt commiserations to you. It would be wrong in the extreme to ask you to place yourself in further harm’s way. Nicola seems to have won the war. Evans promised this to her and Humza is on the verge of delivering.
Without doubt, that Hate Crime Bill is the worst piece of legislation I have ever studied. It is 100 times as bad as that Poll Tax experiment the Tories inflicted upon Scotland before being rolled out to England as Thatcher’s last mistake.
Any good folk from England, you need to read Humza’s Hate Crime Bill. Because a similar version is headed your way.
It’s actual name should be: “The Orwell 1984 Thought Crime (Scotland) Act 2021.”
Well played Boris. Who knew you and old Nick the she-devil had it in you (I best go back and check that Bill to see if it has retrospective powers) as that is one of the last times I will be legally allowed to criticize the current First Minister.
Jesus, they really haven’t thought this through. I am not going to write it, but the law of unintended consequences mean that when the entire population of Scotland wakes up to having all their freedom of speech removed… well folk don’t tend to react to banana state government so well.
Good luck everyone.
EXHIBIT A…
link to beta.parliament.scot
Lorna Campbell
You’re far too forgiving. If it was all about freedom, then why the burning desire to destroy feminism.
Instead Man wants to remake Woman in his image. Don’t forget the lesson of biology. Men have one purpose and one purpose only.
Dave R at 158pm,
I think you make a very important point. I do think the gender nonsense has indeed been weaponised by London. Either Nicola is complicit, or is too incompetent to realise. This is EXACTLY how the security services divide and conquer movements. They have ‘form’, so to speak. Just ask Ireland. As they say over there, ‘The ‘brits’ are at it again.
I am awaiting the reports into the government handling of abuse complaints. in the hope Sturgeon will go. At the very least I’d like Evans and Murrell to be removed from office, along with the Lord advocate and his spook underling.
But, it did occur to me, that perhaps going forward we, diehard independence supporters, should actually re-join the SNP en-masse, and start taking back control of the SNP from the gender loonies and the Sturgeon woke coven. We will soon have actual physical presence conferences again, and demo’s will once more be possible, together with uindy marches.
I may actually do it, and it might be a good strategy for all of us to do it. As to the election, how I vote depoends entirely on whether Sturgeon Murrell Evans ans those other two (Lord advocate and his English spook), keep their jobs. I may, however, need to vote SNP on the first vote, just in order to prevent the two SNP capetbaggers/wastrels parachuted into Edinburgh (Robertson and Campbell) having any chance on the list.
What’s the old playground retort to name-calling? [Dredges memory] Ah, yes:
“Sticks and stones may break my bones
But words alone can’t hurt me!”
Now it seems to be:
‘Stickers and stones [a propped slate]
afear my bones,
Beribboned cards traumatize me.’
There should be a law against this whole sort of thing
robertknight says: at 1:59 pm
“I broke wind on the train this morning.”
That behaviour reeks of antisemitism with your sleekit attempts to recreate the past horrors of a gas chamber.
I am outraged and appalled (and recommend you eat less fibre in future).
‘Assuming no deterioration’.
Sturgeon has figured that there’s still time for new wave of Covid to spread in time to cancel the election at the very last moment.
Depending on the SNP’s own secret polls, of course.
@stuart campbell
You’ve just been mentioned and Wings by Graham Linehan live on the parliament tv on Communications and Digital committee. Started at 3pm. Twenty minutes in. All about twitter ban and twitter. Plus their attitude to women.
The talking stick is a great idea till some one monopolises it.
We have the mace in parliament, the vajra in hinduism, the sword of truth in christianity.
Symbolic sticks of power are their only mandate.
I agree with others that Sturgeon needs taken out.
She needs to lose her seat.
Well, this is going to be interesting election. After many decades, I’ve got to vote for the Greens, and any Independence supporting party for the list. I wish we had a working S.N.P.
Looks like the brains trust in the SNP are using the Scottish Labour play book of the Murphy era as it was such a stonking success. Well done you have all done very well.
Support for Independence dropping.
Now support for the SNP is dropping.
Well done Sturgeon, you’re playing a blinder.
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LAB: 20% (+3)
LDM: 7% (+1)
GRN: 2% (-1)
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THis is bigger than sturgeon. The hydra has many heads and its tentacles penetrate and encompass the globe.
What sturgeon is doing is globally coordinated.
://youtu.be/Eh2PNe4HkJw
So, now The Greens are part of the cover-up.
I’ll never vote Green again either.
Sell-out scum.
Hautey
It is not a cover up. It is a modus operandi. It is global, coordinated and seeminly unopposed. Every party is the same.
John Martini says:
9 March, 2021 at 3:56 pm
This is bigger than sturgeon. The hydra has many heads and its tentacles penetrate and encompass the globe.
I read testicles… 🙂
You have to ask yourself, if the SNP were a new Party, promoting the same policies as they are today, would you Vote for them?
And would you want their leader to be fronting the Indy Campaign?
I read testicles… ?
To be honest, I suspect you’re not far wrong.
“999. Which service do you require?”
“Police!!” (sob)
“What seems to be the emergency?”
“It’s too awful to say……………..Someone has put a sticker on the railing, and cable tied a picture with some words which I don’t agree with. I can’t look, it’s horrifying!!!!”
“Sit tight and try not to look at it. Is somebody there with you? We’ll send a car over straight away…….”
I think Alex Salmond did it.
Call out the Salmond investigation team they will have the bastid in the High Court in no time.
We will get him this time.
Dinny Vote SNP
Dont ask for heuvos in a spanish shop
Has Kirsty Blackman ever been forced to reveal whether she is in possession of a pair of balls.
Why is this woman so concerned about whether a Transgender male can get Access to women only spaces?
Just something not right there.
Cath
Were the trans testicles or the real mcCoy
Perhaps the pearl clutchers did not know the extent to the ‘vabdalism’. If we are to be kind to them….
Imagine phoning the polis for stickers and ribbons. Two officers arrive have a week of horrors dealing with murders, rape and child abuse. Starving cos they’ve gone without breaks and dying for a pish, suffocating in a mask and weighted down in a stab-proof vest.
Called to deal with ‘vandalism’ at an empty office, have to be sympathetic, spend time looking at or sourcing CCTV. Hours and hours spent on nothing.
Can’t even object because its MP or MSPs offices it’ll go right to the top if it’s not dealt with ‘the right way’.
These people have no idea the impact reporting shit like this has on other people. Where have these people been hiding all this time? How did they get this far?
@ Jason Smoothpiece at 4:16 pm
I think you will find the Salmond investigation team are currently busy sitting eating donuts whilst looking through the past twenty years of CCTV footage from George Square.
This is to check if Alex Salmond, Craig Murray, Mark Hirst, or Manny Singh had ever sat on certain memorial benches and emptied vials of woodworm larvae, thus causing those benches to fall apart last weekend…
link to twitter.com
The nature of this ‘protest’ has to be one of the most gentle and respectful you could think of. They are trying to send a message without any ill intent, but simply to register their disagreement. The intelligent and democratic response would be to welcome the non threatening nature of this protest and invite those people to a debate and dialogue. That is what politicians are there to do – to be responsive to the concerns of their community. Implying that you have been threatened and terrorised by some very gentle, female decorative, creative artwork is the absolute pits of contempt for your voters. It’s pathetic and irresponsible to rush off to claim victimhood and hide behind your staff as if your faux concern for them is somehow virtuous. Fake news, again, from fake politicians.
You can imagine the kind of rubbish these people would come up with in, say, the event of a partnership breakup. If I was married to one I’d secretly be getting a bit worried.
SNP must be developing quite a reputation for wasting police time.
link to twitter.com
Did you know that John Swinney and Leslie Evans favourite cereal is shredded wheat?
Dan
Don’t joke that could be a possible line of enquiry
Just read the Rangers statement. The riots were Sturgeon’s fault. And the police are to blame for not having the street furniture removed before the riot. You just couldn’t make it up.
We missed you Rangers!!!
Yes indeed this is classic NuLab, the trans (etc., but mostly at the moment, trans) cry-bullying is lifted straight from the antisemitism witch-hunt playbook. 1/ Provoke a backlash from everyone outside your clique over some ludicrous noisome moralistic pish of an ideology your pushing 2/ Accuse those outside your clique of being violent and bigoted 3/ Purge purge purge.
Hopefully the “hate crime” bill allows for jury trials, not just a judge/sheriff decision.
If it does, nullification may become popular.
Mr Blue Sky at 4.32pm.
Excellent!
It’s a shame we haven’t got Taggart for the Herald leaker investigation.
He was found to be in possession of stickas, m’lud.
All roads lead back to Sturgeon.
#ResignSturgeon
@Bob Murphy and @Jack W, thanks for archiving that link. Haven’t a clue how to do that 🙁
There is more in the Scotsman saying “Alex Salmond inquiry: Claim by new witness backs former first minister’s evidence”
As a non subscriber to that ahem paper, I can’t read the full story
Can anyone do me a favour and find/archive it
Many thanks
This is so bad that it warrants a meme.
Enjoy.
They aren’t snowflakes, they barely qualify as sleet
Cenchos says:
You can imagine the kind of rubbish these people would come up with in, say, the event of a partnership breakup. If I was married to one I’d secretly be getting a bit worried.
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Yeah, almost like the kind of rubbish they would come up with if, say, they were desperate to prevent someone from re-entering politics.
Seems to be a bit of common trait amongst the wokerati wingnuts.
False accusations.
On the day after election day, with no SNP overall majority – and the unionists therefore having a legitimate claim to say Scots don’t want indy – I’m sure all you Sturgeon haters and “I’m not voting SNP” fanatics will be feeling so proud of yourselves for shitting on the indy movement. I’m sure you’ll all have many excuses and justifications and crocodile tears for the fate that awaits Scotland and our dreams of independence that you helped deny and put the knife into in your petty bitterness. So, in advance… STICK THEM!
@ K Cambell
You can just stick the url into archive.is – you don’t need a subscription
link to archive.is
@Giesabrek,
Why is it always somebody else’s fault and never people like you?
I vote how I like and if you have a problem , RAM IT.
Do not take people for granted or you will pay the price!!
Is stick or sticker verboten? I’m noticing a lot of hateful sticker words.
Giesabrek 5.14pm
So you are all for corruption in your Government and Chicks with Dicks using female changing rooms?
Says a lot more about you than us, I would think.
#ResignSturgeon
-Giesabreak-
I’ll bet you were a staunch Labour man pre-2015, with that attitude. The SNP are an organisation, not my family; they are not entitled to my vote. I have come to dislike them, so won’t be voting for them, and many feel the same. It is their job to work for the voters, not the voters’ job to put them in power.
Kinda off topic but it is linked
Earlier this year Jenny Marra (Labour) asked the first minister to intervene in and stop the practice in a Glasgow Clinic of treating minors with Puberty Blocking drugs , as far as I know she was never given a satisfactory answer,
The British government is presently discussing outlawing any medical or drug related intervention Firstly for minors and then possibly adults in this transgender fad that seems to be fashionable just now and this would take effect country wide meaning the whole of the UK .
Kinda fks up Mrs Murrells wee gangs plans for changing Scotlands culture by deception, the whole mental practice will become illegal ,
How sad never mind sometimes Bawjaws does something right
“On the day after election day, with no SNP overall majority – and the unionists therefore having a legitimate claim to say Scots don’t want indy – I’m sure all you Sturgeon haters and “I’m not voting SNP” fanatics will be feeling so proud of yourselves for shitting on the indy movement.”
Should that not end…
“I’m sure all you Sturgeon haters and “I’m not voting SNP” fanatics will be feeling so proud of yourselves for shitting on Sturgeon.”
Probably just an oversight on your behalf but you accidentally replaced “Sturgeon” with “Indy Movement” there.
I wish it were possible for many people in public life to just take a good-natured ribbing. Or something.
What is abundantly clear is that true independence supporters have to stick together and not let the slating from our opponents distract us from our main goal.
@Giesabreak 5.14pm
Away and bolt ya cultist rocket. No party is owed my vote, or anyone else’s. They have to earn it. The SNP has earned nothing but my contempt in the last 18 months. What the unionists say is neither here not there. A pro-indy majority of MSPs doesn’t have to consist solely of SNP MSPs. More to the point even if it did it wouldn’t make a blind bit of difference as the SNP has no clear path to a “legal” referendum. They’ve acquiesced in an effective unionist veto by accepting that a S30 Order is required. Their 11 Point Plan is a joke.
The SNP isn’t the indy movement, we are: the people. If there’s a majority for indy, then it will happen. If the SNP are too tholed to bring about independence, then we have to look somewhere else.
Sturgeon is a liability, as are the coterie around her. They have to go. I’d sooner spoil my vote than vote for a Sturgeon approved candidate: there are many who feel the same. If the SNP don’t get a majority, they have only themselves to blame, not us. I’d prefer them NOT to have a majority unless they change leadership.
I want indy even more than I used to: but not at any cost.
Giesabrek says:
9 March, 2021 at 5:14 pm
Tell that to Sturgeon and her clique – they are the ones who are turning voters off.
Aw the talk is aboot whit if a big herry man in a froak frightens a wee wumman in a chinging room, annat. Well, lissen tae this!
Ah hud a dream the ither night. Ah wiz staunin’ at a urinal ( that’s a place where men pish by the way) Ah wiz whistling a wee tune, annat. Ah hink it wiz thon Banks an’ Braes wan but then it wiz mibbe Letter frae America. Suddenly Ah wiz awerr o’ somebody staunin’ tae mah left. Ah took a swift gander and FUCK ME! there wiz a wee buddy aboot five feet fuck all sterring at me. It wiz wan o’ thon trannymen, annat. Mah wully, never that big at the best o’ times, shrunk sae fast Ah couldnae hardly haud it. Anither quick shufty tae the left an’ the wee fucker wiz sneering and gigglin’ in mah face. Ah’m no afraid te say Ah pished mahsel’.
Ah wiz jist aboot tae lamp the wee cunt when Ah heard mah wife callin’ oot tae me … “Boudleaux, ye’ve pished the bed again.”
Whit a relief!
Still, it’s come tae a pretty pass when a god-fearin’ cunt like me huz nightmerrs aw because o’ the future law o’ the land, annat.
Well, that means that I will not be voting Green either.
Perhaps the most perverse strategy of all would be to become a temporary yoounie in order to re-create the SNP after a purge of the dead-wood.
So bizarre.
But the rationale is that 5 more years of the current SNP will deliver nothing, so it might be best to inflict as much damage as possible to get to where I want to be.
But could I really vote Tory??
Seriously??
Scotland is crying out for a new independence party as many have said before me.
I’m so sorry and so sad that the SNP are so up their own woke arses and so not pursuing Independence they are… like so… Eh so so.
Giesabrek says:
9 March, 2021 at 5:14 pm
On the day after election day, with no SNP overall majority – and the unionists therefore having a legitimate claim to say Scots don’t want indy – I’m sure all you Sturgeon haters and “I’m not voting SNP” fanatics will be feeling so proud of yourselves for shitting on the indy movement. I’m sure you’ll all have many excuses and justifications and crocodile tears for the fate that awaits Scotland and our dreams of independence that you helped deny and put the knife into in your petty bitterness. So, in advance… STICK THEM!
Reply
Why not try to convince ‘Sturgeon haters’ that Unionists will definitely roll over and say when the SNP win an overall majority
“Yes Now is the time!”
‘We were wrong when we said a referendum should be once in a generation and that a generation would be 40 years”
‘The SNP getting 45% of the vote doesn’t prove anything Unionist parties got 55% of the vote.
Try to convince the ‘Sturgeon haters’ that it isn’t the SNP who are shitting on the Indy Movement and they have a plan B.
If you can do that then you will be helping the Independence Movement. If you can’t I would suggest you are wasting your time.
PS You could also try to convince the people you call ‘Sturgeon Haters’ why they shouldn’t hate Sturgeon.
@ Giesabrek 5.14pm I usually like to respond to a comment with a decorum of diplomacy but in your case I will make an exception, ps I had something sarcastic written down then deleted it because you are either too stupid to realise what is going on or you are deliberately trying to rile people, so you can continue in your DELUSION that Sturgeon and Co give a shit for Scotland and Scots and vote for their and your lunatic policies
link to twitter.com
🙂
Greens to back Swinney in VONC.
Geof Anderson. Nicely crystalized.
Geisabrek
Do us all a favour and do as your name suggests.
Give us all a brek from this wheesht for indy mince while forcing through legislation right now on Hate crime bill and Gra without the general public input just before an election.
That is a disgrace
Dictators have no sense of humour and they’re never mature enough to handle a piss take because Martinets are always up themselves. Jokes are only banned by dictators and wife beaters.
Been wondering for a while how it will all end for Sturgeon.
Will it be a dignified exit from Bute House, with the tear in her eye?
I personally prefer the William Wallace type ending.
Being hung, drawn and quartered seems to be so more final.
And I’ve been informed that it definitely does kill off evil witches,,, like Sturgeon.
And have been assured she can never return to earth in some other evil form.
Edward MacD says:
Meantime, Scottish Labour candidate Hollie Cameron has been dropped like a brick for hinting at support for another Independence Referendum.
Do you think that’s why Monica Lennon didn’t get the ticket?
Giesabrek. You’ve got a damn cheek you bastard.
Cenchos says:
9 March, 2021 at 12:30 pm
Charles. 12.17.
The SNP has become a Middle Class Revolt that’s been Perverted by Language.
What’s happening is Grotesque and Unutterable. How long before anyone who objects is caught in the Dragnet and paraded Live At The Witch Trials? Anyone who can stop this madness will truly be This Nations Saving Grace.
Woopsadaisy.
Civil service member has written to the Holyrood Committee confirming discussion with Aberdein on 8th March. She was told name of complainer during that call.
The evidence mounts up
If we have a group meditation at the witching hour we can create an image of sturgeon in our minds and watch as she burns at the stake.
Kirsty Blackman worried a couple of wee stickers.
Look at this ya daft lassie. This is intimidation ya nutter.
link to twitter.com
Is it illegal to throw darts at a picture of the FM? Are darts legal in Scotland or are they classed as a firearm?
Kirsty Blackman
Maybe that should be your profile pic on twitter along with your other pals in SNP.
A disgrace you are.
link to twitter.com
Boudleaux Merkin says:
Still, it’s come tae a pretty pass when a god-fearin’ cunt like me huz nightmerrs aw because o’ the future law o’ the land, annat.
Reply
In hard times you could probably make a mint writing comedy but you would be shit all good as a Chippendale and you definitely wouldn’t get a part in the ‘Full Monty”
Your worry is valid but do transmen actually use the urinal (the place where men pish)
Time to leave this dictatorship I think.
Re Sweinney not being able to find the minutes of meetings where the legal advice over the Alex Salmond upcoming Judicial Review was provided and discussed.
Craig Murray and a Tory MSP who was a lawyer – both say, it is just not possible for notes, minutes not to have been taken and for them to no longer ‘exist’. CM states they must have been deliberately destroyed or concealed.
Where do we stand, as tax payers, those minutes/official documents must belong to the state I would think.
This is way beyond incompetent.
Shame on those who think its OK to look away from this level of corruption.
Or that people this 3rd rate and corrupt could take on the British Empire and win any kind of Independence for Scotland worth having.
I formed the opinion some time ago, that perhaps John Swinney had a very scary visit from some MI5 types, who pointed out just how easy it would be for them to arrange an accident on his family. Stranger things have happened.
If that were true, I have to say now, you’ve sunk so deep into the corruption, hell mend you, and take your family with you. There are no words for the level of disgrace you are.
SHAME
Charles at 6.09.
I’m sure someone will Extricate the truth when New Facts Emerge.
@BobMack 6.12
An important point is Ms Kay claims to have spoken to Mr Aberdein before anyone else about this, and before he had his conference call with the other three.
But Nicola Sturgeon suggested in her evidence Mr Aberdein could have learned the name of the complainer/s from Mr Salmond.
That makes four people – Alex Salmond, Duncan Hamilton, Kevin Pringle and now Lorraine Kay – who say Geoff Aberdein spoke to them very shortly after meeting a government official.
They all say he told them of the complaints against Mr Salmond, and also the name of a complainer.
@Gisabreak 5.14pm
It’s because of Nicky Happy Clappers like you that have given Sturgeon the power to do what she wants. If her and her cabal, had to earn your votes instead of knowing they expect and are entitled to them, then things would be different. Instead you lot will give her your vote no matter how bad she behaves or how many laws she breaks. So any loss of independence lies squarely at the door of the happy clappers. The rest of us have a sense of fairness and decency, qualities that you obviously lack.
If in doubt: Blame & exploit the public.
In other news, rotten banana UK features at the bottom of the world pandemic misery (well-being) index:
link to blogs.lse.ac.uk
link to macdonaldlaurier.ca
Giesabrek says:
9 March, 2021 at 5:14 pm
On the day after election day, with no SNP overall majority – and the unionists therefore having a legitimate claim to say Scots don’t want indy – I’m sure all you Sturgeon haters and “I’m not voting SNP” fanatics will be feeling so proud of yourselves for shitting on the indy movement…
As a matter of passing interest Giesabrek, how did you yourself feel back in January 2020 when Sturgeon, the lying crook, squandered Scoltand’s Sovereignty, stuck two fingers up at Scotland’s sovereign democracy, and capitulated like the rotten coward she is, to Scotland’s unconstitutional subjugation and colonial removal from Europe? Were you proud of yourself then Giesabrek? Proud of your ‘leader’?
We reap what we sow in life, and Sturgeon has been a dangerous and incompetent liability, taking the piss out of all of us for much too long. If the SNP don’t want royally humped in May, then the SNP better pull the finger out and get rid of all the crooks, creeps and weirdos before May, so that voting SNP doesn’t make the punters feel like total mugs who are being blackmailed because their desire for Scottish Independence is being exploited by a shower of corrupt and lying charlatans.
Clock is ticking.
John Martini says:
9 March, 2021 at 6:14 pm
If we have a group meditation at the witching hour we can create an image of sturgeon in our minds and watch as she burns at the stake.
Reply
Is a group meditation not more a Buddhist thing? Would we not be hoping for an appropriate re-birth/reincarnation?
@Boudleaux Merkin 5:45pm
I guffawed at your post a few times. Great post!. Ridicule through humour, how it used to be in 2014. Now we are the ones subject to ridicule. And then there is the Greens. I call them ‘Toes’ because they are so far up Nickys butt all you can see is their toes. I have revised my prediction of the electoral performance of the Greens. I now predict zero Green MSPs.
Is it just me or is the Scottish Parliament website down? Have explosive documents been released?
People talk about the oppression of Westminster.
If the SNP gets its way tomorrow, Scotland is about to become the most oppressed democracy in the world – courtesy of the very people who were voted into power to deliver independence.
3rd world countries have more press freedom than rotten banana UK (world leading covid death machine), while front-line NHS nurses are kicked in their teeth for their national heroics (FU**ING 1%):
link to rsf.org
link to statista.com
O/T Graham Linehan statement today to the House of Lords.
Please read.
link to grahamlinehan.substack.com
@Terry,
thanks for the heads up,
just listened to Graham Linehan`s summary of the social media shut down of the trans debate,
link to tinyurl.com
at time 15: 31.
Ligamentophobia is a thing.
@ Beaker at 6:41 pm
Just in time for the Conservative Manifesto to now include…
“The SNP have recently voted to restrict your Freedom of Speech. So Vote Conservative and we will repeal this Act as we respect that Scots should have the right to express their dissatisfaction at us Tory twats, or any other political Party packed full of fuckin fannybawz.”
Remember, #LGBTQ+ (most exclusive minority group ever e.g. mainstream media coverage; social media power; funding; state priority, etc) is a lifestyle CHOICE, whereas the male and female human species (the vast majority), is biological FACT.
They have
Pittakionophobia & Ligamentophobia
By this time tomorrow I will have no voice.
Totalitarianism is not only hell, but all the dream of paradise– the age-old dream of a world where everybody would live in harmony, united by a single common will and faith, without secrets from one another.
Oh man, another bit of of Blackmans drivel, I laughed so much , I farted and soiled my pants with a little wee wee dribble.
I hope that someone tells the SNP government that sporadically releasing all the embarrassing details or , as now , saying the files are lost is not going to get them off the hook despite the lack of media scrutiny..
This ugly sequence is being saved for a big media scoop a bit nearer to the May election when it will have maximum effect on the polls.
Records of meetings between Nicola Sturgeon, Permanent Secretary Leslie Evans and the Scottish Government’s legal counsel about the investigation into Alex Salmond cannot be found, John Swinney has confirmed.
Ah canny find the minutes, actually a don’t want you to see them because if you do we’re f*cked.
What a devious, deceitful, sly, nasty, law breaking, self serving bunch of rogues the SNP hierarchy has become.
No doubt wee Patrick Harvey is salivating like Pavlov’s Dog at the thought of joining forces with the SNP to protect Swinney tomorrow from the VONC. What a f*cking disgraceful state of affairs.
Nally Anders says:
9 March, 2021 at 6:42 pm
O/T Graham Linehan statement today to the House of Lords.
A wonderfully strong heartfelt piece from Mr Linehan. How anyone could find fault with it is beyond my comprehension.
@Ruby says:
9 March, 2021 at 7:05 pm
“They have
Pittakionophobia & Ligamentophobia”
havintgotafekincloowhithatiz…
I am afraid we are now to close to the election for a change.
We have to proceed with Nicola and the wokeratie. It will be down to the MSPs in the next parliament to look very carefully before electing a new leader and it must not go through on a nod.
Has the Salmond conspiracy harmed the SNP?? we will know soon enough. Will the unionists produce the whatsapp messages and the names during the election??
This might not come across the way I mean it , I have huge respect for Graham but it’s absolutely disgusting that given we have a female (ok) FM , we ( women not with dicks ) have to rely on men (with dicks ) to fight for us
So the most recent Panel Base survey of 7th March has the SNP vote substantially down at 47% and 42% for the constituency and the regional lists respectively.
That’s -5% and -4% respectively or (-9.7% or 8.7% in reduction terms – say nearly 10% down)
Not exactly a ringing endorsement of Nicola Sturgeon’s leadership and whilst the devil is in the detail and the distribution it certainly looks like we may need a list Independence Party ( or a change of SNP strategy ) if we are to secure a parliamentary majority.
Read Graham Linehan’s strong statement. That he, and others, are being subjected to all this fucked up hatred makes my piss boil.
Every day is becoming like some really weird episode of the League of Gentlemen, were we twinned with Royston Vasey overnight ?
link to web.archive.org
you’ll no doubt have this story Mr Wings – but just in case. It’s on twitter #sturgeonresign
@willie says:
9 March, 2021 at 7:33 pm
“Not exactly a ringing endorsement of Nicola Sturgeon’s leadership and whilst the devil is in the detail and the distribution it certainly looks like we may need a list Independence Party ( or a change of SNP strategy ) if we are to secure a parliamentary majority.”
The way things are going the list Indy parties might have more bloody seats.
@Cenchos says:
9 March, 2021 at 12:30 pm
Charles. 12.17.
The SNP has become a Middle Class Revolt that’s been Perverted by Language.
…which, in turn, begs a question; why are people grudgeful?
@ Dan at 6.59
I wrote to all my MSPs asking them to support various amendments to the Hate Crime Bill tomorrow.
The only substantive reply I have had so far is from the Tory list MSP. I doubt if he wrote it himself; with the Forensic Medical Services bill there was a centrally-created statement that they all sent out (it was quoted by several people).
It includes:
and
So they are already bringing the election into it. He seems not to expect their candidate to win in my constituency! (That suggests there could be two versions of the stock reply.)
Shock horror – Craig Levein made me laugh!
Chit chat before the football started and veered into politics; Levein said something like, “I’m not getting involved in talking politics – until she resigns…”.
Between 6.30pm and 7pm, Radio Scotland.
Carol Neill
Carol, men are not fighting for you but along side you. as equals, as it should be in a proper modern society.
Hope this came across the way I meant it.
HA HA HA x 35,000 because I am not typing all those HA HA HAs out.
6 or more years I have been attempting to push vote SNP to anyone who would listen, fell out with friends family in the belief I was right I was doing them a favour.
No more
If this SNP attempt to push these two bills through Holyrood against the advice as what is generally accepted as being bad and shortsighted legislation , most people are unaware how these two bills are going to change society because its being done in secret, this mumbo jumbo here today and gone tonight cult obsession pandering to a minority of people that have some serious issues that they intend inflicting on everyone else , not just that but make it Law .
Anyone representing the SNP reading this I don’t care if this SNP don’t get a majority in the next Holyrood election , the deal was Independence ” ignored “, hate speech reservations “ignored” GRA real reservations mostly from women “ignored”
Well SNP reps this works both ways you ignore me and by fk you better believe the effort I put into supporting you can easily be reversed no problem , I refuse to vote for a party I can’t defend ever .
@Carol Neill 7:30pm
I get your post. We support the women in our life because we love them. There is a long way to go before this law becomes a social norm which I think will never happen. You can enact a law but is not the same as societal acceptance. Denise Findlays recent post on how we got here is informative.
SNP = Scottish National Party
SNP = Sorry No Plan
The article linked below is an excellent read and should deeply shame those pushing for gender reform.
It’s a subject which really pisses me off, not least of all because mentally unwell individuals are having their delusions enabled, instead of being provided with the help they truly need.
In turn, the rest of us are subjected to en masse gaslighting, denied a contrary opinion on the matter, forced to accept a ludicrous stance or risk being labelled hateful.
Vulnerable individuals are being ruthlessly weaponised by politicians and purpose/attention seeking activists, and I fear Scotland will forge a whole new low on the matter by passing that Gender Reform Bill.
link to heritage.org
On a previous thread about Nicola Sturgeon, there was a post that mentioned she could well have a narcissistic personality and provided a link.
With that link, there was mention of two types of narcissistic personality, overt and covert. Overt is where narcissistic traits are openly shown and covert, where it is hidden and more subtle in nature.
If this individual is being serious in taking so much offence at something so insignificant then could this be a trait of this covert narcissism?
Why does she stress the fact that her staff are ‘all woman’ as in that makes it worse? She appears to be implying that women are the weaker sex and these things are more traumatic for women ?
In the unlikely event that an indyref was on the cards. Any attempt by the Scottish Government to hold a second independence referendum without Westminster’s permission will be challenged in court.
link to msn.com
Ruby says:
9 March, 2021 at 7:05 pm
They have
Pittakionophobia & Ligamentophobia
I was looking for those earlier today and couldn’t find them anywhere. Shocking that these wokeratti are so bigoted and pittakioophobic and ligamentophobic. How dare they.
I will never bend my voting values to the extent of turning them upside-down and inside-out (fake values have zero worth ?).
If the public wants to vote for (seek to empower) unmitigated state corruption and criminality: good luck, but please don’t mock those who care.
Most importantly, this omni-clusterfu** (& wasted ‘Golden Opportunity’) firmly belongs to rotten SNP (hierarchy).
“But we all need to continue to follow the rules” (9 March 2021)Mr John Swinney.
Having lied to Parliament, withheld documentation demanded of him, and done all he could to thwart legitimate scrutiny.
With the full support of the Groan Party Mr Swinney will soldier on and destroy what little national dignity remains.
link to tns2019.org
Al & tanadice boy , thank you , with a little female granddaughter ( with a vagina ) this shit makes my blood boil
Since Ribbons are involved.
link to twitter.com
More taxpayers’ cash down the drain.
£300M this time.
‘Fears taxpayers left exposed under terms of ‘potentially disastrous’ SNP deal with steel magnate.’
link to archive.is
Currently, the only SNP thing I could perceivably vote for is a full-scale criminal investigation (re. corrupt Scot Gov/SNP/Civil Service/Crown Office/Lord Advocate).
When you stray so far from reality, it is little wonder you become terrorised by the truth.
@Footsoldier says:
9 March, 2021 at 7:57 pm
SNP = Scottish National Party
SNP = Sorry No Plan
SNP = Sorry Nonsense Policies
Even if you ignore the sturgeon effect I think you are blind to the fact that support for indy is showing a slight decline.
This is not 2014 and there is no EU saviour. The bad tory arguement won’t get independence and neither will saying you would do it better than the english.
The snp have demonstrated that they are not very good at government.
Strathy says:
WTF £300M on top of the £250M plus cock ups already, Westminster will have a field day. All is FUBAR in Scottish finance.
Scobra was activated I’d expect.
@Carol Neill 8:18pm
Yeah I have a new granddaughter 7 months old. Signed petitions, wrote letters, crowdfunding contributions etc. To get access for Grannies to help their daughters. A dispensation available to Grannies since December 5th in England Eventually we got there, thanks to Willie Rennie of all people. I shouldn’t have to bang a sledgehammer on the table to get the SNP to listen. But we got there. And we will get there on GRA and HCB. I am good at banging on the table but I shouldn’t have to. It’s obvious after all. Scottish Grannies are not inferior.
re. (disturbing) EU News:
“Puigdemont: EU parliament lifts ex-Catalan leader’s immunity”:
link to bbc.co.uk
Stuart MacKay: one part of this insanity believes that women are an aberration of nature, that trans women are the new women. The eradication of women is their aim. This kind of madness has been with us forever, in one form or another. By the way, for gays and lesbians out there, the ‘queer’ in queer theory is no insult to them. Queer theory’s underlying aim is to deconstruct from underneath, from within, to dismantle prohibitive laws and to engender laws that reflect democratic morality – on the face of it a desirable state of affairs. Unfortunately, like most of political and social philosophy, it fails to take the reality of human nature into consideration, and that is its fatal flaw. It won’t stop them, though. It never does. I feel very angry with extreme feminism for taking us to this point because certain men were just waiting to jump on the bandwagon and destroy it. Why women like Kirsty Blackman and others do not see that escapes me.
@ cynical highlander, Footsoldier:
Sometime Never Party
Sturgeon’s Nasty Party
What most people forget is that there are seven billion of us on a dying planet, orbiting a dying sun, at 66,616mph. One degree of error either way in orbit and we are either toast or icicle.
What are the correct priorities ?
Peace and happiness Al.
Same as it ever was.
Quality coffee ,well roasted would be fairly high on my list.
🙂
Hugh Jarse
Peace and hapiness is all I ask plus Coffee and lager.
@TNS2019 – another excellent newsletter. Whoever is doing that for you is real asset and I wish you well. ‘Education Scotland’ are a funny bunch aren’t they.
I can’t actually find the words to talk about ribbons and vandalism.
I so angry at the Scot Greens. I was going to vote Green 1st and ISP 2nd but now I don’t know as that’s greens and SNP out. I might just stay home and not bother. John Swinney should go.
Muchos disappointment for this wannabe SNPeel candidate on learning that ribbons are no longer acceptable in Scottish society.
The individual released this statement prior to being told to get in the sea:
“As a pea brained slimy and slippery bottom feeder sporting Team Nicola colours, I thought I would have slivered right into the realm of Scottish politics, but alas, even having spent most of my life at 50 fathoms, even I wasn’t prepared to lower myself by plumbing the depths further and Self Iding as a quad amputee to get to the top of the Regional List 🙁 “
(20 secs)
link to youtube.com
@Al
What are the correct priorities ?
INTEGRITY always.
Hugh Jarse says:
9 March, 2021 at 9:09 pm
Peace and happiness Al.
Same as it ever was.
Quality coffee ,well roasted would be fairly high on my list.
Yip, I love a coffee myself and a biscuit to go with it, but I guess a Blue ‘Riband’ is outlawed in Scotland now. 🙁
So the SG state they have no notes of the meetings with external counsel in early November. Yet someone who claims to have served as counsel states that everyone at such meetings takes notes. Hence the external counsel would have notes.
So I see a way forwards. The Committee uses its powers to compel:
a) write to the external counsel and requires them to answer simply if they have notes from those meetings.
b) write to the SG telling them to get the notes from external counsel, censor as necessary, and pass to committee.
The committee the publishes the notes, and requires external counsel to confirm they are accurate.
Simples 🙂
Oh I forgot to add that ridiculous fkn clip of Princess Nicola believing the most important thing she had to do was make a heartfelt plea for some people whose feelings might have been harmed and they didn’t feel safe in the arms of the caring sharing SNP ,please don’t leave .
I never got a fkn please please stay message when I left what makes them so fkn special .
If you want a laugh this will do it. “Researchers have discovered lesbians don’t like penis”.
link to twitter.com
@Al says:
9 March, 2021 at 9:05 pm
“What most people forget is that there are seven billion of us on a dying planet, orbiting a dying sun, at 66,616mph. One degree of error either way in orbit and we are either toast or icicle.
What are the correct priorities ?”
Understanding nuclear physics, orbital mechanics and angular momentum for starters.
AberdeenPict says:
Yip, I love a coffee myself and a biscuit to go with it, but I guess a Blue ‘Riband’ is outlawed in Scotland now. ?
A curry a day solves everything.
link to amp.theguardian.com lets see
Aberdeen pict.
I think the blue aspect makes it kosher.
Yellow too.
Conservation of angular momentum, and indeed all the laws of physics are a given. Except QED.
The Greens have never been a genuine Party of Independence. They are pretendy Indy to hoover up votes and they need the New SNP to drive home their common Woke agenda.
The one thing worse than the SNP getting a minority Government is a Wokerati Alliance.
@ Lorna Campbell at 2:10 pm
Very well said
The misogynist Green party has always been a chancer party.
When you reflect on the BTL comments here, from the end of January, you can see that around 80% of comments are registering disquiet at the actions of the SNP hierarchy.
It would appear that 50% of that 80% are long-term Wingers and 50% are newish readers.
Around 5% are new readers, not of the hitherto faith, ie interested outsiders (thanks Feet Pishfart!), who seem to like Rev Stu’s reporting, although not Scottish by domicile.
My SNP membership is still hingin’ on the shoogly peg – by a pinky nail.
Between now and the end of April, I will email my MSP and ask him questions. The answers to these questions will determine my constituency vote.
“My female office manager had to report to the police”
“The female cleaning staff had to clean off the slurs etc”
She should be charged for wasting police time.
Is it possible to make a FOI request to the police to ask if this was indeed reported to them?
Don’t vote for the SNP.
Transhumanism is also part of the technocratic dream as contained in the Great Reset , Agenda 21 and the new green deal. It’s all starting to make sense now.
Looks like Ross Thompson may have some competition…
link to twitter.com
Scotland would have been independent country for over a year now, a fellow and equal member of the EU, if Alex Salmond had been the leader of the SNP and First Minister of Scotland on the day the Brexit result was announced.
It is the fate of independence supporting Scots that the SNP fell into the hands of the biggest Tractor in Scottish history, the most wicked wolf in sheep’s clothing ever.
The first priority towards independence now is removing the SNP from power, followed by a new genuine independence supporting party to make the next Westminster election a plebiscite on independence.
Brian doon toon. 10.51pm
So,,,What the SNP have done up until now is just fine in your books???
Jesus fuck.
What will it take for you to say to the SNP that they have now crossed the line?
So the Alex Salmond shit and the Chicks with Dicks is within your realms of acceptability???
I think you are in the wrong place Mr Toon.
Either grow a pair,,,or fuck off!!!
#ResignSturgeon
@ BDTT: you’re not going to take that fly, I hope! Too wily to rise.
Today has been quite a big news day, and I have missed the usual updates from Stu.
Patrick Harvie taking sides, the committee chair publicly slamming Swinney then writing to get docs direct from Salmonds lawyers, Whitford being a bit naughty, Grady and others being even worse, labour sacking pro-indy candidates, Linehan getting in bother.
I know Stu was always around 80% sure that Nicola Sturgeon will be forced to resign before May, but has Stu now given up on this completely?
Is Sturgeon safe, is Indy unlikely, and is Wings coming to a close?
Hi “Dixon inform”.
I am hingin’ in there in the hope that enough of the SNP not quite so high “heid yins” will grow a pair and give us something to vote for.
What are YOU doing – apart from being an obnoxious BTL commenter?
@ BDTT: you rose to the fly!
Mr Toon
I’m only obnoxious with Sturgeonistas,,, like yourself.
The Wee Gingerbread Man’s website is along the corridor,,, you seem to have opened the Wings Over Scotland door by mistake.
And just out of curiosity, what DO you think of Chicks with Dicks???
OR
Do you think Alex Salmond was framed???
Brian Doonthetoon says,
“I am hingin’ in there in the hope that enough of the SNP not quite so high “heid yins” will grow a pair and give us something to vote for.”
Way way too late. Any change in position now will look like nothing more than opportunism.
No genuine independence supporter should ever forgive them for what they did to Alex Salmond.
Voting out the SNP is now the only move forward to independence.
As long as the SNP, which no longer stands for independence, remains in power, a genuine independence movement will not be able to come to the foreground.
“Do you think Alex Salmond was framed???”
No; that was Alex Harvey.
Hi Kcor.
I can’t disagree with you.
Better make the most of commenting before stuart has to close them due the hate crime bill.
Every comment would have to be legaled. Pre mod would be unsafe.
James Horace says,
“I know Stu was always around 80% sure that Nicola Sturgeon will be forced to resign before May, but has Stu now given up on this completely?”
You have always been pretty sure that she would not be forced to resign.
Will you be happy to be proven right and the Rev. Stuart Campbell to be proved wrong?
The SNP under Nicola Sturgeon has lost its way, squandered every advantage and opportunity, even Scotland’s age-old political underpinning of the sovereignty of the people, handing it over to Westminster without so much as a peep, and now the people of Scotland are where they are. Out of the EU, still tied to the rancid UK union, things about to get worse.
It breaks my heart.
It’s no use crying over spilt milk but imagine, for a moment, an alternative timeline in which Alex Salmond had not resigned in late 2014. Politically damaged after the referendum loss but SNP membership soaring, the apetite for independence strong as ever, getting stronger after EVEL and breaking every vow of the “Vow”…
Material change in circumstances after the 2016 Brexit vote. Alex Salmond, the consummate politician, strategist and tactician, would’ve known how to exploit every opening, every chance, to Scotland’s advantage.
Scotland would be independent by now.
Let. that. sink. in.
Kcor
“Will you be happy to be proven right and the Rev. Stuart Campbell to be proved wrong?”
No. I want her gone.
Pete Wishart has much in common with recent contributors here. Insult and patronise those who might just have the same dream.
Back in the day as a canvasser trainer i would get to the hair pulling stage and almost scream “Hearts and minds”. Some people like Pete cannot stop themselves and here you have expletive riven prose telling people what to think and what not to think.
These are not new personality types. I remember my Glasgow branch in the late fifties we had shallow ego trippers who viewed politeness as redacted. They hampered progress.
Why do I care? My dream is still alive .
For Sale:
Second hand Code of Procedure, a bit battered, one not very careful female owner. Contact N Sturgeon, Holyrood.
P.S. not suitable for mediation enthusiasts.
Kirstie Blackman: “my (all female) staff”
How is it that “lack of diversity” only applies to situations where there are a majority of males while a workplace that is 100% female is OK? Think I’ll lodge a discrimination claim cos I’m being denied a job in Blackman’s office on account of my Y chromosome.
” Derek says:
9 March, 2021 at 11:56 pm
“Do you think Alex Salmond was framed???”
No; that was Alex Harvey.”
And Sturgeon is Delilah in this instance or maybe, I better stop myself there.
So many strange never been seen before names when scrolling up to read comments ,
welcome visitors or refugees from other sites ? who knows
a real stand out and you really need to be more inventive ROCK it’s a pretty lame disguise.
I dont know if its just me but why do people hide behind strange masking names ? , something to hide ? .
” Derek says:
9 March, 2021 at 7:45 pm
Shock horror – Craig Levein made me laugh!
Chit chat before the football started and veered into politics; Levein said something like, “I’m not getting involved in talking politics – until she resigns…”.
Between 6.30pm and 7pm, Radio Scotland.”
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If I remember right he had to be sacked as well as he didn’t know the word resign! He didn’t go until it was too late to salvage that particular campaign. I never found anything funny about him Derek.
Derek, I forgot to add that Sturgeon and the SNP are going into the election playing no strikers.
And talking of people who leave their jobs after the damage has been done.
I’m not a Celtic fan, but surely Neil Lennon should have gone months before he left his job.
It must have been so frustrating for Celtic fans when Lennon sat it out,,, defeat after defeat, and in the end he leaves,,, when it’s too late.
Who does that remind you of???
Seems that party members are being put on advance notice that the Government is going to lift COVID restrictions on the 15th March 2021 and that this will allow the restoration of campaign leafletting by activists, but not canvassing.
With guidelines having been prepared that are being said will be applicable to all political parties it is quite interesting how this decision, although not it seems yet publicly announced, has been made in advance of that announcement.
Maybe the wee birdie was chirping early but this change will allow delivery of campaign leaflets by the more traditional and hugely cheaper mechanism of member activists delivery rather than the much more expensive mechanism of having your campaign leaflets delivered commercial or printed adverts in the press and on-line.
Moreover certainly brings into perspective how COVID restrictions have been a blocker on traditional political campaigning.
No doubt all parties, when they are aware of the restriction lifting, will welcome this since priorly traditional campaigning has been restricted to only the more expensive forms of communications and information gathering.
And sometime after the 15th March you never know, the Scottish Government may later announce, if they do not know already, that traditional canvassing and similar activities may once again be allowed, or not, as they may decide.
Interesting developments though as we look forward to the announcement of the 15th March easing of lockdown restrictions.
The Scotsman 9th March
link to archive.is
“Records of Nicola Sturgeon meetings with Alex Salmond cannot be found, John Swinney confirms
The Deputy First Minister has told the Holyrood inquiry into the government’s unlawful investigation of Mr Salmond that he is unable to provide details that the committee had asked for.
Mr Swinney, who is facing a vote of no confidence after refusing Parliament’s demands to release legal advice for almost four months, had said the government did not record minutes of meetings with its external counsel about the former first minister’s ultimately successful legal challenge.
The current First Minister and Ms Evans, Scotland’s most senior civil servant, held meetings with external legal advisers about the judicial review on November 2 and November 13, 2018, according to evidence provided to the committee.”
(snip)
“When Mr Swinney first confirmed on Friday that no minutes could be found for the November meetings, Scottish Conservative MSP Donald Cameron said: “I’ve acted as counsel for the Scottish Government. At consultations, everyone takes notes. It is inconceivable these minutes don’t exist.” ”
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Just how stupid do Swinney, Sturgeon and Evans take us for? It is conceivable that Sturgeon might not take notes, relying on LE to do so. It is not conceivable that a career civil servant like LE would fail to do so, nor that the external counsel would not have made their own notes. Add to this that there would certainly have been a representative present from the Solicitor General and they would definitely have made a record. The SG’s shredders must be working overtime.
How much more evidence of obstruction do the Greens need before they’ll vote No Confidence in Swinney? Sturgeon should be impeached as well. No minutes for her meeting with Geoff Aberdein on 29th March or with AS on 2nd April, no minutes for meetings with external counsel in November – it’s almost as if NS had something to hide.
Have become an avid reader of this lately.
Talking of green and blue ribbons, my footballing friends point out that Swinney standing up in parliament demanding that fans adhere to rules is a waste of time when he ignores legal search warrants and orders from parliamentary committees!!!!!
Robert Graham says
I dont know if its just me but why do people hide behind strange masking names ? , something to hide ?
I can’t speak for others but I would lose my job for any posts that suggest there is a problem with Self-ID and self-declared “women” in single sex spaces.
So that’s why I use a made-up name.
@ James Horace
I know Stu was always around 80% sure that Nicola Sturgeon will be forced to resign before May, but has Stu now given up on this completely?
Have you ever see Stu give up over these long years? No!
Have you ever thought Rev Stu may have bigger fish to fry?
Yes. He hasn’t put up as many posts as he usually does these last two days, that doesn’t equate to him giving up.
Rev Stu hasn’t endured all the shite he has over the years, to give up now when things are all coming to a head.
Be patient for a few weeks longer. I feel it in my bones something big is about to erupt. I’ve felt it now for about a month.
As a Scot living in New Zealand I’m lucky in that, because I don’t have a vote & at my elderly age I will most likely never be able to return home to visit. I’m not looking in with the same level of emotion as I would have if I still lived there.
Given what I’ve picked up, “reading between the lines” something big is about to happen. (SMILES)
Brian Doonthetoon says:
BTL commentator.
Brian what does BTL mean? Is it below the line? Genuine question.
StuartM says:
10 March, 2021 at 7:05 am
Are there no members of the SNP who will have the guts to vote against Swinney? Surely the ones who are retiring at this election could do their bit for their country and help rid us of Sturgeon and Swinney. They must know what the hell is going on. Maybe it would open the eyes of some of the faithful followers if they saw actual MSPs confirming what the rest of us now know.
I am not so sure that something is going to erupt. Each passing scandal is brushed off by sturgeon easier than the last, and it is now clear that the greens will protect her from anything. I guess this lack of spine from Harvie was one of our worst fears. Even if clear ministerial code breaches are proven by both the harrassment inquiry and the Hamilton one, I now don’t see how she goes.
I am happy for anyone to tell me of a plausable way she may leave before May now, because I really can’t see it myself.
Menstruator says:
10 March, 2021 at 7:21 am
“I can’t speak for others but I would lose my job for any posts that suggest there is a problem with Self-ID and self-declared “women” in single sex spaces.”
Completely understandable, especially in the current climate.
In many cases people could be in danger of losing their jobs by “bringing their organisation into disrepute” just by having opinions that do not conform to the acceptable norm. There may even be people who need to hide their identities for safety’s sake. Possibly from a violent ex partner. The person may have nothing to hide but may have plenty to hide from. It can be a nasty world out there for some folks.
After the passing of the hate crime bill there may be many more pseudonyms in use – especially if people want to comment on Wings.
@ Kiwilassie at 7.31am:
“Brian what does BTL mean? Is it below the line? Genuine question.”
You are not alone in being mystified by this; I’ve been puzzled by it for a long time. A lot of commenters on here have a habit of using obscure acronyms and initials. It would make their comments so much easier to understand if they would use the proper names or words they’re referring to.
In U.K. politics corruption ensures all things can be swept away.
Look at Boris the number one.
Serial Adulterer
Pathological liar
His comments on black people having watermelon smiles
Muslim women looking through letter boxes
Scots to be put in ghettos and eliminated
Police called after he physically restrains his latest partner
Covering for Cummings
The £350 million to the NHS,a lie he always knew
Oven ready Brexit deal that never got cooked
Illegally trying to close parliament
Refusing to honour the Brexit deal he signed
Happy to break international law
£Billions handed out on corrupt PPE deals as well as track & trace.
He broke the Ministerial code in the HC when he assured all contracts had been registered
He protects Patel who is a bully that cost £350,000 to cover
Covers for his father going to Greece during lockdown.
I could never have believed that such a man could be Prime Minister
and that significant numbers in Scotland would vote to live under his boot.
He may well be tempted to commit murder to see how easily it is to get away with it.
The obvious, truth, justice and morality are all dying embers in U.K. politics.
The total darkness that will follow may be well beyond our comprehension.
@James Horace – If she’s guilty of breaching the Ministerial Code then she ceases to be FM. There is no vote on it.
Patrick Harvie has been bought with favours for these short term VoNC which were always on the horizon for Swinney and Sturgeon. Patrick Harvie is nuisance-value at Holyrood and always has been.
Some things are so serious they will not survive them. Patrick Harvie will hold things-up for a week or two, but that’s all.
Captain Yossarian, I would put my house on this not happening as you say. There is no way she will “cease to be First Minister” and you are deluded if you think there is even a 1% chance in this happening.
Do the SNP have 19 year olds that they fly up and down to London on party business.
A young man is making claims both a male and female party official had made advances on him?
The was once upon a time when unwanted advances were nipped in the bud and life went on.
In discos these days if a guy taps a girl on the shoulder to ask for a dance, is this a police matter?
link to google.co.uk
Kiwilassie and Michael Laing , BTL means below the line.
It is just about the only abbreviation I know.
@ Kiwilassie @ 7.28am:
I think people, myself included, have a tendency to react immediately to events as they’re reported rather than seeing the overall picture. So when Sturgeon tells another lie, makes another snide insinuation about Salmond, and hangs on for another day, doom and despondency descend. If we take a few steps back, we can see that Sturgeon is on the way out and will be gone sooner or later. Even if she somehow hangs on until the election and beyond, the penny will eventually drop amongst the general population that they’ve been cheated and lied-to for six years and that we’re not one iota nearer to independence. However, as soon as we have a leader whose focus is on independence rather than men in dresses, we’ll be on the march again. It’s inevitable. There’s still no valid case for the union, and the arguments for independence have only strengthened since 2014.
@James Horace – as I understand it, there is not even a vote on it. If it is deemed she misled the chamber, then she has to go.
What we are living through just now is a degredation of the legal and political standards which have stood in Scotland for centuries. This story that ‘no minutes can be found’ will not stand and there are many, many people in Scotland who will not accept that.
I am confident that Swinney and Sturgeon will be gone soon enough. A way will be found.
It’s been six weeks since Craig Murray’s trial. Still no verdict.
Michael Laing and Kiwilassie
BTL is short for Bacon Lettuce and Tomato. It’s a One Time Code used by M15 handlers for their agents in the field. They will give this as a recognition signal and be replied to typically with another in similar vein i.e. H+M (Ham and Mustard). The fingerprints of MI5 are everywhere. Can I recommend ‘Between Silk and Cyanide’ by Leo Marks.
StuartM @7:05
“Just how stupid do Swinney, Sturgeon and Evans take us for?”
I don’t think they take us as stupid. They take us as powerless. And in doing so they are much mistaken.
Fellowes much to be relied on, the Sturgeon government.
The brand leader of paper shredders being Fellowes.
Capt Yossarian
“What we are living through just now is a degredation of the legal and political standards which have stood in Scotland for centuries”.
That, Sir, is the critical thing. The malaise goes deeper than party politics to the fundamentals of our ‘democratic’ system and is why anyone voting SNP in the hope that independence will be delivered must think long and hard about the costs to the country of doing so.
The first priority now must be to rid the SNP of that top echelon. A majority in May will embed corruption into the Scottish political landscape for decades to come and provide WM with the perfect excuse to refuse a plebiscite.
James Horace, what was that about Whitford? I seemed to have missed that nugget of information yesterday.
Anyone know the SNP Chief Whip’s view on HRA and Alex Salmond?
I find this a coincidence that there are suddenly two accusations involving certainly one heterosexual female MP and a male MP- from 2016.
I seem to remember there being comments made that the new, specially tweaked policy to deal with retrospective cases of harassment hasn’t been used since it was used on AS.
I smell a smell.
Please support Mark Hirst in this, and post it everywhere you can:
link to civillibertyscotland.com
Sorry – GRA and Alex Salmond!
I don’t understand why politicians continue with cover ups. Once you know something is being deliberately hidden, the automatic assumption is because that entirely proves what the person who wants it unhidden is saying. They’d be as well saying “Just ask Alex what happened” because all they’re saying right now is his testimony about everything is 100% true and there is much worse even he maybe doesn’t yet know.
Many of us on here have believed him along, but I always wanted Sturgeon not to be involved in the stitch up, even once I knew how unlikely that was given the evidence and some of the women involved. All the past few weeks has done is implicate her and Swinney, make it all feel much worse than I even imagined, and almost certainly tip off others who didn’t think there was anything amiss.
kapelmeister @8:44
I do think that Sturgeon and Co do take us as stupid and also mainly powerless. The upcoming election is our only real way of registering our displeasure but even that is rigged by the likes of Swinney and Sturrgeon on the list vote. Throw in the ability to persuade The Greens to back them by offering what in my view amount to bribes to get the budget through and no doubt also agreement for any VONC and we are screwed.
‘With the SNP’s hate crime bill about to pass into law this month, we can all hope and pray that The Great Ribbon Terror will soon be at an end. Sadly, it looks like it’s going to take the entire concept of free speech and political dissent with it.’
If these braindead wannabe-American halfwits think they are going to stop me saying what I want, they are hilariously misguided.
Though that said, I suppose if it’s serious enough that you and those around you potentially face jail time, you cover up for your life. And if it is that serious, why the hell do we have diddies like Maureen Watt and Alistsir Allan investigating rather than forensic legal minds?
So with that report of allegations in Westminster, why has the male MP been named, but not the female MP?
That the male was a whip should be irrelevant; we don’t know if the female MP was a whip (unless there are no female SNP whips).
One the face of it, this smacks of a double standard.
I find it strange that few appear to make any connexion between the surreal unreal times we are living through and the corrupting politics of the times. The many are either ignoring the repression or enjoying its false ’security’, the safety of having life’s decisions taken away.
What that indicates concerning the humanity and understanding of what it means to be human of the many is open to speculation.
At the moment it does not look good.
Thankfully some recognize the symptoms and offer warnings.
link to d-dean.medium.com
I’ve always said that SNP Politicians need to be whiter than white as they are held to a higher standard by the Yoon press, who will exacerbate any misconduct (alleged or otherwise) to a ridiculous degree.
I fear another SNP minority government coming up which will kick independence into the long grass until the next decade at least.
Who knows, maybe the actual SNP election manifesto will impress.
Scottish questions before PMQs,
roll out the Uncle Tams/House Jocks.
Captain Yossarian, I do not share your optimism. I can guarantee that a proven breach of the ministerial code will not be the end of Nicola Sturgeon as First Minister.
Looks like Patrick Grady has resigned over sexual harrasment allegations.
link to express.co.uk
Don’t understand this generation, at 19 I would have arranged for him to “slip” in the toilets if I was that offended.
I’ve always said that SNP Politicians need to be whiter than white as they are held to a higher standard by the Yoon press
Doesn’t really make a difference as, even if there is nothing at all to get them on, their own side will just make stuff up to bury them whenever it suits.
NS will equate a ruling that she breached the ministerial code by conspiring to fit up and jail a political opponent, cover up and destroy all documentation about it, promote a cadre of conspirators around her into all the top jobs in the civil service, ignore parliament instructions, and repeatedly frustrate and dissemble to an investigating committee as being the equivalent of Pritti Patel swearing at a civil servant, and declare the matter closed as being just a difference of opinion.
Cath says:
10 March, 2021 at 9:29 am
I’ve always said that SNP Politicians need to be whiter than white as they are held to a higher standard by the Yoon press
Doesn’t really make a difference as, even if there is nothing at all to get them on, their own side will just make stuff up to bury them whenever it suits.
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Looks as if the ‘making stuff up’ is backfiring on them now!
Karma?
The good thing about not supporting the ‘Nouveau SNP’ is that I’m not that bothered about the Patrick Grady story.
‘It must be a national priority to weed out the Greens from the Scottish Parliament. Obsessed with sexual politics uninterested in the environment led by the loathsome goblin a man who’s very visage could turn milk.’
….and another thing, is it not James Wolffe’s job to go searching for these missing minutes and notes from legal meetings?
….or are the Scottish public just supposed to accept this obvious dishonesty.
Man, it’s like the LA riots in those pics!!
I made a comment late last night about about how many contributors as using aliases when posting , I can’t accept people having to disguise their names on what is essentially a Scottish political forum , location and email addresses are not published and as far as I know employers don’t have any right to discipline anyone or even have a opinion about anyone for their political allegiances or preferences , if I am wrong that’s a wrong that needs to be addressed .
@Robert Graham – why do you think there are no whistle-blowers, Robert? It’s because if they know who you are, you are finished.
Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed how quite some of the bloggers are yesterday and today. Rev, Craig Murray, Jeggit, Iain Lawson.
Last week Jeggit was teasing us all with something big, really big that we would all like was about to happen around the 8th of March. No further news on that front just yet.
I get the feeling at the moment that something is bubbling up and all these guys in the know are just waiting for something to fall into place.
Oh well, as I say, maybe it’s just me. Maybe lockdown has made me finally flip. Or perhaps I’ve just become a paranoid auld cynic. Strange times indeed.
Savanta Com Res – ‘Should Scotland be an independent country?’
15/12/2020 – Yes 52% No 38%
05/03/2021 – Yes 43% No 46%
Not long now before ‘Look at the polls!’ becomes ‘You can’t trust the polls.’
My only hope is that Alex has a cunning plan up his sleeve.
But if so he needs to spring it soon.
Minority SNP government with a strong pro-indy opposition (not you Mr. Harvie, sit down please) is the only potentially promising outcome I can see.
But…
I’ve just been looking at the list candidates for the ISP, all very worthy people I am sure, but nonentities to a person. I would hazard that 90% of voters don’t even know the party exists.
Is it merely coincidence that ultra unionists Rangers FC win the league and the independence vote goes down?
Are some people reverting to type!
JB@9.04
Why has the SNP named the male and not the female MP at the centre of yet another sexual harassment claim? Could be an oversight but then again…..
…the Chief Whip is the person who is supposed to keep the WM group under control and certainly in the Tories they do this by knowing all sorts of compromising information about their MP’s which they can threaten to release if said MP won’t tow the party line.
Just imagine if there was such an MP at Westminster who knows what skeletons are in EVERYones’ cupboard and the story is reversed i.e. the Whip is threatening to tell all /dish the dirt on the suspect things they know are happening around them in an attempt to uphold Party integrity.
Quickest way to stop said person (especially if male) is to concoct a sexual harassment accusation – job done, secrets safe for the time being. Just imagine!
@Big Jock,
I don’t think so. My son in law is z gets can but still supports Indy.
I think the SNP grossly underestimated the backlash from their own actions and insistence on policy which is unpopular.
They relied on the Independence carrot to see them through but failed to see that people also value truth and fairness.
What is Independence if you are gagged and forced to accept the unacceptable ? Nothing.
Gers fan not( s gets)
Opinion polls don’t deliver independence.
Neither will Holyrood under Scotland Act devolution.
Devolution Holyrood was created to prevent independence, not facilitate it. It’s purpose was to turn opponents of the UK State into employees of the UK state. Tamed colonial administrators loyal to British rule. The Scottish Raj.
Donald Dewar, is gradually achieving via devolution, what he fought hard to achieve whilst alive: the destruction of the Scottish independence movement.
All it took was Alex Salmond and the SNP being gullible enough to believe UK devolution could ever deliver independence, followed by SNP careerists who cherish administering colonial rule more than fighting for Scotland’s freedom.
It looks like the divide between the Westminster SNP and Holyrood SNP continues. Nicola Sturgeon seems to have no authority over the WM SNP where powerful men( and women) can misbehave with impunity.
No wonder she went to town when she thought she had something on AS. Even Angus Robertson couldn’t find anything to fit him up with when he was all sanctimony and piety personified in his role as WM leader.
Which makes you wonder why Grady wasn’t dealt with when Robertson was the leader? Grady as the Whip was maybe too useful at that time to get rid of. Apparently, there are a couple more troublesome SNP MPs that are known to the press.
Are they ‘allies’ – is that why they are protected so far? It will be interesting to see what resources are deployed to get to the bottom of this.
This latest complainer, is he talking about events years ago?
Is he still employed by the party or possible and aggrieved former employee?
If when out socialising in a pub a girl was to cuddle him would he press charges?
Is he doing this to get people sacked, imprisoned, on the sex offenders list,
looking for compensation or could he have revenue from anyone looking for
something to stick just before vital elections?
Will the Unionist corrupt police ensure it drags on for years just like Michelle
Thomson’s case did?
Where can these situations go when it’s one persons word against another?
Are politicians so dumb they wouldn’t know is someone isn’t interested?
The world has gone beyond mad!
Looking back at the Wings archives I came across a post from 10 years ago, April 2011. Rev Stu was mocking the futility of Nick Clegg’s upcoming AV referendum and was advocating a spoiled ballot. Stu said that if there are an unusually high number of spoiled ballots in a poll then no politician can spin it away. I agree.
Since real Scottish nationalists face the bleak, restricted choice of unionist parties and a corrupt fake nationalist party for the Holyrood constituency vote, I would say that a vast, unprecedented number of spoiled ballots would garner international media attention. It would be something that, to use Stu’s words, no politician could spin away.
Spoiled ballots on the first vote and ISP/AFI on the second and we will be rejecting unionism, fake nationalism and Sturgeon’s pathological egotism.
@Effigy
From the AS case, we know they don’t deal with anything at the time. They keep stuff buried away in case they need it. The researcher was loath to make a complaint at the time but others who saw it did on his behalf as it seemed more than a ‘cuddle’.
The stuff about the Christmas party is another set of incidents but appears to not have been dealt with.
There are two young male researchers who have come forward, one who makes it clear he is heterosexual and found the male advances particularly uncomfortable although sexuality should not come into it. As it was made clear with AS this was about a power imbalance as much as anything.
There are more occurrences apparently with other MPs but the SNP might not be able to bury these as effectively as they could before.
Expect the hypocrisy meter to register off the scale as the press start to reveal the stuff they know nearer to the election.
Sturgeon was prepared to send an innocent man to prison for possibly the rest of his life. Just think about that and digest it. Do we really believe that something as evil as that was purely about political rivalry. Either Sturgeon and those around her are rotton to the point of being unhinged or they have an agenda and the way things are unfolding that agenda is to destroy the SNP and with it independence.
I don’t understand how Grady has stepped aside yet Patricia Gibson is getting full protection for the alleged misconduct suffered by Kieran Reape. It seems the WM brigade spend more time drinking and cavorting than lobbying.
John Swinney has that haunted look of a man who knows he could be going-down for a long time. Remember Jonathan Aitken? He went to jail for perjury, for 6-months. Swinney’s case is very much worse than Aitken’s.
Aitken is now a prison chaplain. I wonder what Swinney will do? Does anyone know? Does he have any skills apart from intimidation and corruption?
Abbreviations commonly used on the internet:
BTL – comments Below The Line
AFAIK – As Far As I Know
AFAICS – As Far As I Can See
IIRC – If I Recall Correctly
IMO – In My Opinion
IMHO – In My Humble Opinion
IMNSHO – In My Not So Humble Opinion
Kepelmeister says at 12.11am
…I would say that a vast, unprecedented number of spoiled ballots would garner international media attention…
Maybe if all ballot papers for the constituency vote were spoiled in exactly the same legally acceptable manor then local, national and international media would be left in no doubt about our opinions of the candidates/policies being offered.
Is she woke and he’s not?
Beware the ides of March.
@kapelmeister ‘spoiled ballots on the first vote and ISP/AFI on the second’
Ah, the daily ‘vote ISP’ free plug. Late today, though nice touch adding AFI in to make it look it’s not just plugging themselves.
Wake me up when the Deadweight Eight “alternative independence parties” unite under one common banner and prove their sincerity.
Mike Robson says:
10 March, 2021 at 8:33 am
Michael Laing and Kiwilassie
BTL is short for Bacon Lettuce and Tomato. It’s a One Time Code
That stupidity isn’t wanted here. Go fu*k yourself’ Are you a tranny?
If you don’t know who you are , that’s your problem. Deal with it. We in the normal world don’t have the patience to put up with this stupidity.
What is the most effective way to spoil a ballot paper to make a point? I haven’t made up my mind yet what to do, but I’m thinking about it.
Abbreviations commonly used by the FM.
ICR: I Can’t Recall.
IDKFC: I Didn’t Know For Certain.
INA: I’m Not Aware.
IHTC: I’d Have To Check.
CGYSATT: Can’t Give You Specific Answers To That.
NTTBOMR: Not To The Best Of My Recollections.
kapelmeister 11.12
This where we are.
There is a wonderful novel well worth reading (if you don’t mind commas in lieu of full stops and very few paragraphs) by the fantastic Portuguese author, Jose Saramago called SEEING published 2004, where he describes what happens when nobody votes!
It’s just fucking brilliant! Spoil constituency votes folks.
Cenchos 12.37
Sorry, couldn’t resist –
NQOOUD – Not quite one of us, darling!
@silverdarling “There are two young male researchers who have come forward, one who makes it clear he is heterosexual and found the male advances particularly uncomfortable although sexuality should not come into it.”
On the contrary, sexuality most certainly bloody should come into it. If someone tries hitting on someone they know full well doesn’t share theirs, that’s as obnoxious as the bad old days where anyone gay/lesbian had the office lout on a works night out offering to “cure” them after one lagar shandy too many.
For too long the LGBTQ+ have not been treated with the same responsibilities that go with the rights they battled to get. Part of this is down to them playing up to the very same stereotypes they decry when it suits them, without a hint of irony or hypocrisy – in particular that of the male homosexual as two-dimensional characters helplessly enslaved to their ‘urges’ as some politically correct version of ‘laddism’.
The unedifying ‘whataboutery’ in certain quarters for Derek Mackay attempting to hit on a 16 year old even today shows how far we’ve to go – although you may as well be talking in Klingon to the likes of Mhari Black or Kirsty Blackman if you dared point that out. They have a siege mentality that would make your average knuckle trailing Orange Walk bigot look broadminded.
Being LGBTQ+ has become one of the new “gangs” in a secular age when what foot you kick with is dated in an era few even pretend anymore they have any religious convictions (unless their half of the Old Firm gets added to the Census this time around) – and unfortunately is proving equally as mulish and self-centred as its predecessors. ‘Plus ca change …’
Does anybody honestly believe Swinney has been witholding evidence from the committee on his own initiative? He’s just the poor sod who gets pushed in front of the curtain whenever the FM doesn’t feel like doing the dangerous work herself. He’s Sturgeon’s ‘stunt double’, and forcing his resignation and making him literally the ‘fall guy’ only serves to avoid the ‘star’ getting hurt herself. It’s NS who should be top of the list for resignation.
@Mark Boyle
Well said!
Colin Alexander says:
10 March, 2021 at 11:02 am
All it took was Alex Salmond and the SNP being gullible enough to believe UK devolution could ever deliver independence, followed by SNP careerists who cherish administering colonial rule more than fighting for Scotland’s freedom.
That’s harsh Colin.
I like to think I have a good grasp of the Constitutional fumbles, but Alex Salmond nevertheless set YES on a winning trajectory, and had he remained FM when Brexit fell into his lap, Scotland would now be an Independent Country.
Yes, Devolution has always been a trap, an unconstitutional device to lure the unwary, and deliver a beachhead for UK colonial encroachment, but if the SNP had any fire in their bellies, Devolution could have been used to enhance and codify Scotland’s Sovereign Constitution rather than Westminster’s.
But we are where we are, with Scotland’s Independence community facing a choice in May whether to vote for the rogues who’d frustrate our desire for Independence, or the rogues who would exploit it. Independence itself isn’t on the table, and a large number of folks have simply disengaged and won’t vote at all.
I don’t know where we go from here. There are options which could drag Independence out of the flames, but neither the necessary boldness or determination to seize them. As ever, a chronic absence of leadership.
Maybe the big mistake we have made is trusting Independence to politicians at all, not just the amateurish shower of current politicians.
But as it stands, I wouldn’t want to be in Nicola Sturgeons shoes. The Germans fighting for Berlin in 1945 against the massive impending Soviet onslaught had an expression “Enjoy the war, because the peace will be terrible”. I think that expression might be broadly applicable to Sturgeon.
Derek, nobody went into any of this with a goal of going after Swinney.
The real goal at this particular juncture is to secure the legal advice. Anyone that stands in the way is complicit and thereby fair game.
@Mark Boyle
Was it hitting on them or using their power to put them in a position of degradation and humiliation?
If you do that to someone not knowing their sexuality does it make the approach any less warranted? Do we know the sexuality of all the women complainers in AS case?
AS complainers used the power imbalance to bolster the case against him, why is it different here
However, if it is making a sexual advance in the hope of pursuing a mutual encounter that is different.
John H. says:
10 March, 2021 at 12:32 pm
What is the most effective way to spoil a ballot paper to make a point? I haven’t made up my mind yet what to do, but I’m thinking about it.
I wouldn’t worry, It doesn’t matter if you write NOTA or draw a huge boaby and clacker bag.The counters won’t be impressed or give a toss, it will just go in the ‘spoiled papers’ pile without a second glance.
However, if the point is that Grady or the others were predatory towards a young man, fully in the knowledge of their sexuality then I take the point that it seems much more sinister.
Any Independence supporter not prepared to vote for the SNP in the forthcoming election needs to take a hard look at themselves.
If the SNP do not get a majority any momentum gained this year will be reversed. It will take 10 years to rebuild and I will not see an Independent Scotland in my lifetime.
If there is a need for change, change from within. Look at what history has done to the UK Social Democrat and Liberal parties and the Scottish Labour Party.
That could easily happen by splintering the Independence groups/parties. How many do we have now 3. 4. or 5.?
Unionists have certainly played a blinder with the old divide and rule tactic.
Think big and look to the future [I know that may be a novel thought for some on here]
@silverdarling
Westminster seems to be little more than a big gay disco for Scottish MPs of all parties. They have little of any substance to do. Now that they have broken the fatwa on remote working, there is little reason for Scots to duplicate representatives at two institutions.
Let the constituency MSPs have the vote at Westminster by ipad and do away with the lot of them.
Wings is right to point out these dafties but if the SNP/Greens get less than 50percent of the vote say bye bye to indy for a generation.
Imperative all factions unite now.
Don’t really want the glow of “told you so” if we lose this opportunity. Regardless of Sturgeon, the UK fear an SNP majority vote more than anything else on the horizon. If the SNP fail with a majority vote this time I’ll be first in line for a new party but we have to have that majority first. We never have. This is the time.
Robert Graham says: 10 March, 2021 at 10:14 am
“as far as I know employers don’t have the right”
Robert, I agree with you that people should not have to fear repercussions for sincerely held opinions, but take a look at what happened to Allison Bailey and Maya Forstater for expressing the view that human beings can’t change sex.
When the Hate Crime Bill becomes law it will become even worse.
To the spoil your constituency paper brigade.
Do you think the Tories,Labour and LibDems will be spoiling their papers,NO!
If you have a decent candidate such as Fergus Mutch, Kate Forbes, Jenni Minto and others then vote for them. Make up your own mind.
To those who claim the ISP should share the banner with AFI
a) The Greens are not doing so.
b) Explain why I should take part in a manifesto development, vote on candidate selection, contribute funds to a Party and THEN have my seat represented by an MSP I would not have voted for.
If you do not want the disciple of Party alignment or to be vetted then stand as an Independent.
The ISP members are building a long term alternative to the SNP. It is not only a Holyrood21 campaign.
I want to know the candidate through hustings. I want to hear them speak on the manifesto.
Frank Gillougly @12:40
Sounds a good novel Frank. I’ve read other stuff by Saramago and I agree, he is excellent.
Doh! Discipline . Should have checked
Robert Graham at 10:14:
Yes the use of a consistent pseudonym rather than a ‘true name’ can be quite useful regarding employers, especially large corporations.
They generally have the freedom to decide what they may view as being a negative association they may be tarred with as a consequence of their employees words or actions, even if not obviously connected with that employees role as such. There have been instances (usually with US Corporations) of people attacking corporations for political speech of their employees, and effectively hounding said employees out of their job, by ’embarrassing’ the corporation.
If one works for a US corporation, even outwith the USA it is sensible to take such protective measures. I imagine the same could apply to UK corporates, especially if they have contracts with governments, or some of the offended/insulted/aggrieved parties/organisations/groupings.
So it can be best to play safe by choices made before hand.
@Gullane 04..
Novel thought? You have no idea what it means. SNP is your religion not mine.
Besides it reminds me of how you and others didn’t need us because the polls were on your side. Changed days eh!
More and more people are wakening up to the truth that the SNP will not get you Independence. Ever!!
The conceit of contemporary Scottish nationalism is the belief that sticking an x on a bit of paper is all that’s required. ‘Fraid that’s what ‘they’ want you to believe. Keeps the serfs playing to the rules.
There is more to this than occasional referendums, elections and conventional constitutional flummery.
Takes muscle, something the woke ridden, safety first current political climate of Ukania definitely lacks.
@Gullane 04
Curious to know the “momentum gained” all I can see is large volumes of cash being haemoraged through failure after failure. All of which plays directly into Westminster’s hands.
Potentially another 300 million lost with Sanjeev Gupta’s steel business going to the wall, add this to the 100million ferry fiasco, 100million Rangers fiasco, Bifab, Alex Salmond, hospital contract screw ups….the list goes on.
The only “momentum” is towards Westminster taking back control.
The SNP will get No votes fae me.
There are more aspects to Freedom then Independence for Scotland.
They can shove their hate bill up their shredders.
Gullaneo4 1.15
”If the SNP do not get a majority any momentum gained this year will be reversed. ”
From my o grade physics – momentum = mass x velocity
If we take mass to equal membership/numbers intending to vote SNP, well that is down, surely?
And regarding velocity? nope, that’s definitely Glacial or gradualist as they euphemise. I’ve seen faster sluglife.
So to conclude, what is to reverse? The SNP are already going backwards through their own making.
The quality of leadership at time of independence is absolutely crucial or the whole process becomes an exercise in theft and cronyism.
It is evidenced throughout decolonisation and the breakup of the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia.
Backing the SNP with the chance the current cabal could be emboldened into actually delivering independence would set us up for something far darker than the current position.
“Any Independence supporter not prepared to vote for the SNP in the forthcoming election needs to take a hard look at themselves”
No, we don’t, actually.
The ones who have to take a very hard look at themselves are those who have been allowing the fraud standing as SNP leader to destroy and eviscerate the party in the way she has done, to the point she has made it worthless as a pro independence or democratic party.
The ones who must take a hard look at themselves are those who allowed this fraud to undermine the party’s raison d’etre and democratic credentials and to take yes voters for fools by continuously denying us the delivery of our democratic mandates, by corrupting the democratic structures of the party to force on the electorate worthless candidates and by continuously denying our exercise in self determination with fabricated pathetic excuses for the best part of 6 years. By the way, that includes each and every MSP and MP who remained silent while she did all this and remained silent while Mr Salmond was being stitched up and smeared day in day out.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but from where I am standing the SNP or the greens for that matter do no longer look like pro-independence parties. They look like the new tools of the British state that will happily force on the population toxic policies nobody wants as a way to treat Scotland as the testing ground to see what they should or should not implement in England.
Attempting to patronising us or psychologically blackmailing us with that pile of crap is only going to backfire. If the SNP loses this election, which should have been a walk in, they only have themselves to blame for taking yes supporters and the electorate at large as fools and for having allowed that corrupt to the core individual destroy the party’s credentials as she has done.
Independence does not have to be linked to disgusting levels of corruption, perjury, abuse of power, the destruction of females’ rights nor the destruction of our freedom of speech. That the SNP and Greens are blackmailing us into accepting those as a condition for independence is, in my view, abuse of power and the most disgusting attempt at deceiving the electorate. The SNP or Greens have no right to make those toxic laws or corruption a condition for us to achieve independence. If the SNP or Greens are making independence conditional to these toxic laws and corruption, they can shove them up their backside and go and take a hike.
The SNP and the Greens have been part of a pro independence majority in Holyrood for 5 years. What do we have to speak for it? Unbelievable levels of corruption and an unprecedented loss of powers. If they did not deliver independence in the last 5 years when they were presented with every opportunity, they are not going to deliver it now.
At this moment in time, it seems that the only way to vote for independence, the preservation of females’ rights and freedom of speech simultaneously is by spoiling the constituency ballot. Well then, so be it.
No plebiscite? No vote.
If snp don’t win this election we’ll survive like we always have but it’ll be a regret that at the moment scotland could bestow a pro indy majority vote for the first time, we ended up fighting amongst ourselves. Noses spited all over the place. We have been forever thus.
Very interesting politics going on in Scotland at the moment,
The great divides are numerous,
it noticeable Started with Miss Davidson instigating trouble with the orange order and the opposition and tank talking adverts,
We had the set up of turning Scottish sites against each other on how to get independence, the slow approach or get it done method, you have the mandates.
Then the progressed position in the SNP with gender woo woo.
We have NS against AS,
We then have the hate crime bill being forced upon us. Which no doubt will cause havoc in Scotland as it is meant to do.
Now we are witnessing the up and coming next big story to set Celtic and rangers football fans against each other.
There are many stories cropping up here in Scotland to start up deliberate divide between the people of Scotland,
I wonder about two things,
Will we fall for it and who,s paying for it to happen?
We are not fighting ourselves. Every can one of us would vote for Independence tomorrow. What we are angry about is this ridiculous Hate Crime Bill which will shut up any dissent ,and the GRA a which will take away the rights of women, especially those I care for.
You have the damn cheek to come on here telling us to ignore this yet have you once complained to the people creating the problem ?
Probably not. Look at yourself not us.
The SNP have presented such a preponderance of open goals for the opposition in the run-up to the election, that there is a danger that the scalding deluge of criticism poured upon them will simply result in an amorphous cloud of negativity which can be easily countered by yet further promises of a sunny new day.
Maybe it’s a new political strategy.
Very interesting politics going on in Scotland at the moment,
The great divides are numerous,
it noticeable Started with Miss Davidson instigating trouble with the orange order and the opposition and tank talking adverts,
We had the set up of turning Scottish sites against each other on how to get independence, the slow approach or get it done method, you have the mandates.
Then the progressed position in the SNP with gender woo woo.
We have NS against AS,
We then have the hate crime bill being forced upon us. Which no doubt will cause havoc in Scotland as it is meant to do.
Now we are witnessing the up and coming next big story to set Celtic and rangers football fans against each other.
There are many stories cropping up here in Scotland to start up deliberate divide between the people of Scotland,
I wonder about two things,
Will we fall for it and who,s paying for it to happen?
We are without doubt being set up from every angle in politics, sport, religion, women against men,
Trans against women,
We need to look at the bigger picture here, instead of looking at the firing pin, who holds the gun that is taking aim at the Scottish way of life and who is subsiding this onslaught.
John H @ 12.32pm
“Protest votes must be clear. To make a protest visible, don’t just ‘spoil the ballot’.
Here’s why”… link to votenone.org.uk
I saw this a while ago and thought it was worth keeping for reference. For a protest to be successful we should try to be united in our intent.
Derek M Morison says:
@ ’10 March, 2021 at 12:52 pm
Does anybody honestly believe Swinney has been witholding evidence from the committee on his own initiative? He’s just the poor sod who gets pushed in front of the curtain whenever the FM doesn’t feel like doing the dangerous work herself. He’s Sturgeon’s ‘stunt double’, and forcing his resignation and making him literally the ‘fall guy’ only serves to avoid the ‘star’ getting hurt herself. It’s NS who should be top of the list for resignation.’
Actually what I think it shows is a complete lack of any kind of integrity from Swinney (not that I’m surprised anymore). I think an honourable person in his position, on being unable/or refused the documents in question – would have given a resignation speach to the parliament and stated this as the reason.
Werz the Rev
ScotsRenewables says: “I wouldn’t worry, It doesn’t matter if you write NOTA or draw a huge boaby and clacker bag.The counters won’t be impressed or give a toss, it will just go in the ‘spoiled papers’ pile without a second glance.”
Please DO NOT “draw a huge boaby and clacker bag”. Contrary to the myth from the more moronic parts of social media, your ballot is NOT secret – it has a unique serial code on the back.
It used to be routine for the vote bundles for the Communist Party of Great Britain to be bundled up by returning officers and kept aside for Special Branch to take note of potential “subversives”. The practice stopped when the CPGB vote dwindled and became so split into competing Marxist factions as to render the exercise meaningless (most votes being personal ones for the candidate from family and friends).
(Lindi St Clair’s Corrective Party remains the only one that had a manifesto commitment for the ending of ballot numbering – for all the good it did them).
Banksy was forced to abandon a plan to reward people who posted on social media proof that they had voted for any other candidate than Tory in 2017 when he discovered those voters could fall foul of the law (as for that matter could he for “treating”, even though not a candidate).
Don’t gamble on a system which appears to be compromised enough up here not to decide to make an example of you under the Malicious Communications Act or whatever. If you think Dear Leader and the gang won’t make an example of you when it suits, you haven’t been paying attention of late. In the current climate, all it might take is a headline of yourself being in court and fined (or worse) for such behaviour for your employer to let you go.
Just score out all four boxes individually (NEVER put one big cross through the lot – some returning officers choose to “accept” the centre point as the “intended” vote), and if you must write or draw on the rest, keep it clean.
As Mia points out, the Sovereign People’s power is reduced to a vote every few years, at a time and under conditions set by politicians.
The People can do nothing else, effectively.
It is time to change this system fundamentally.
I see SNP Trolls are still trying to convince us to vote for her Party of Crooks.
There are many stories cropping up here in Scotland to start up deliberate divide between the people of Scotland,
There really are. To the point it’s now hard to discern who’s really on what side. However, there is one previously massive divide which is not being talked about at all anymore: independence v the union. The pro union side is now purely about stopping indyref2, stopping the SNP, Salmond v Sturgeon and being delighted there are splits in the Indy movement. Unionism has died as an argument. All they have left is the in democratic fight to keep it without debate.
*undemocratic* not in democratic!
You’d need to be on an IQ of around minus 10 to vote for Sturgeon’s Nasty Party.
So Humza Yousaf’s Hate Crime bill looks set to pass into law, and it might be that your private thoughts on such matters in your own home if overhead outside, such as saying out loud is that a man dressed as a woman, could lead to you being arrested and given a prison sentence, up to a maximum of seven years.
One wonders how many set up will now be in the pipe line of folk being accused of something they didn’t do. Watch out Joanna Cherry, and Joan McAlpine.
Sturgeon had turned Scotland into the laughing stock of Europe.
Glasgow racer,
You’d need to an IQ of around minus 50 to believe you were anything but a sleek it wee Unionist troll ?
Glasgow racer, you are today’s btl laughing stock. Away an’ raffle yersel, wee man.
@ James Che. at 2.20pm: I agree with your comment, and have noticed that certain people on here have been posting comments which, under the guise of criticising the SNP or Sturgeon, appear to have the intention of stirring up resentment, division and sectarianism amongst independence supporters and Scots generally. As soon as we see ‘Catholics this’ or ‘Rangers that’, we should see it for what it is and stamp it out immediately. I think all the gender and identity-politics crap has the same purpose: to create factionalism and in-fighting. I’m also uncomfortable with people attacking Wee Ginger Dug and his readership. I want Sturgeon and her acolytes gone and I believe it’s inevitable that they will go, but people seem to forget that Sturgeon still has support because people desperately want independence and believe, albeit wrongly, that she will deliver it. We are, or should be, all on the same side.
Re. The Hate Crime Bill – I gather there are a lot of amendments to be discussed before the vote.
Hell of a lot of grown men on here getting off on euphemisms for genitalia. Fucking fannies.
Attempted censorship in Scotland, be it political or pop-cultural, over the last 40 years:
link to whorattledyourcage.blogspot.com
Is this the calm before the storm?
And agree with others, we need a fresh start in Scottish Politics.
Michael – Remember that Rangers are a unionist club. The majority of their fans waive union flags (and I don’t want to hear that they don’t). Because when they had full stadiums it was a sea of Union flags , about 95%.
They are associated with the Queen, The Orange Order and actually anti Scottish beliefs.
So commenting on Rangers is not causing division. The division exists , so we can’t pretend it doesn’t . Rangers fans are hardly a key demographic for yes. The good ones who are not like that have already gone to yes and wouldn’t disagree with any of what I have just said.
Well we won’t find out until 8pm tonight the outcome of the VONC of John Swinney. I don’t support the BritNat parties in any way at Holyrood, but I don’t agree either that the VONC is grandstanding by them.
The SNP and Swinney for that matter have brought our parliament into disrepute, and although Swinney looks set to survive the VONC due to the compliant Greens, who by backing Swinney also brings Holyrood into disrepute. I do believe that no one is above the law, and the vote is a necessary process.
We used to be told the SNP are the only vehicle to bring us to independence. With every passing day, I become more convinced that the SNP should be on the scrap heap.
The independence movement’s goal should be to end the Union, not help run it via the SNP.
As a symbolic but important first step: Every politician who believes in the sovereignty of the people of Scotland should pledge to serve the sovereign people of Scotland and refuse to take an oath to the United Kingdom’s Sovereign.
Are there ANY “pro-independence” candidates who will assert the sovereignty of the people of Scotland by refusing to accept Queen Elizabeth Saxe Coburg Gotha / Windsor as their Sovereign?
I believe the answer is no.
ScotsRenewables @2.57pm.
The one that stands out for me is the right to speak your mind in your own home. I’m no friend of Adam Tomkins, however he’s defending your right to do so today.
The SNP and the Greens want to normalise hairy bearded men walking about our streets dressed as women in front of our children, and if you complain about it, you could go to prison for what they say is a hate crime.
Ross Kilbride,you should consider lending George Galloway your vote.
Scot renewables
The Unionusts actually support the Sturgeon Strategy of NEVER holding a referendum on Scottish Independence.
Do try to keep up, you silly little zoomer.
Republic – Or primary kids being read stories by drag queens!
Then asking them when they are 12 , if they want to be a boy or a girl!
@Big Jock – Celtic have associations too Jock and not all of them are benign. It’s all part of life in Glasgow and it’s never been a problem for those who live here.
Did someone not mention that the enquiry had now requested the hidden information from Salmond’s lawyers? Surely that is the smoking gun!
OT. scotsrenewables, could you please check in to your indyref2. site. There is a message from AnnB about the links. She has been desperately trying to get hold of you,thanks.
Sorry Rev hope you don’t mind.
Big Jock, what do you actually Know. Most of your posts are drivel of the highest order.
What’s the difference between Sturgeon and a Unionist?
One tells us exactly what they think about Scottish Independence.
The other tells us what we want to hear, but does the complete opposite once elected.
@Captain Yossarian,
It’s always been a problem for Glaswegians. They just become immune to it after a while.
Captain – Appreciated, but Celtic’s associations are not anti Scottish and pro British. Different Spectrum. Celtic fans of that persuasion are anti British. I have no problem wit that.
I don’t find the tricolour offensive(would rather it was a Saltire), but I find the Union flag offensive and racist.
Larry -I know a troll when I see one though!
Big Jock @3.15pm.
Yes, its all about normalising what isn’t normal behaviour, cue the what is normal behaviour brigade, well teaching our kids that its perfectly alright to change sex, like changing a jacket or socks, which biologically you cannot is wrong there’s nothing wrong with our children the way they are, and influencing them in this way brings a greater risk of mental health problems and suicides in later life.
@ Big Jock
A lot of people find you offensive and ‘racist’ Big Jock.
Well, Patrick Harvie has persuaded me; time to buy a 4×4 with a nice big diesel engine.
And I’ll be honest, I think beaches, ponds, and parks look much better when they’re adorned with colourful plastic bottles and crisp packets.
What can I say, I’m arty…
Republic of Scotland
“The SNP and the Greens want to normalise hairy bearded men walking about our streets dressed as women in front of our children,”
You better stop, “Scot renewables” is getting all excited.
He’s all for this sort of thing.
Mark Boyle
The serial no on a ballot is irrelevant in a voting booth. It’s just a ballot number so a total ballot count cant be totalled at each station on issue.You cannot be identified. Otherwise it’s not a free vote.
When you go to the voting booth the clerks just give you a ballot from the top of a pile,there not identifiable to you. It could be last weeks lottery numbers or next weeks on the back, it means feck all.
The biggest threat to Wings Over Scotland is from SNP Trolls.
They would love nothing more than for this place to be closed down by their Party’s new Hate Crime Bill.
Rev, don’t be fooled by them.
They will draw you into places you don’t want to go.
Sneaky Bastards.
Fuck Off SNP Trolls.
We are not interested in you or your Party.
@ Ayrshire Rob
They also write that serial number down next to your name on the marked register, so it absolutely is “identifiable to you”.
Very, very, occasionally in case of electoral fraud that connection is used to remove specific ballots from the tally.
Does that mean it’s not a “free vote”? It’s certainly not a completely secret one (though an improvement on the system pre-1832 when voting was conducted in public with a show of hands), and I used to know someone who refused to vote for that reason.
Far too many people seem to think it is now or never.
It’s always now or never -til the next time.
The single most important issue for no is to remove Surgeon and her cabal.
If you don’t get rid of them, you’ll not get independence, even if they ‘win’ it -which everyone now sees they don’t actually want.
You’ll be out of the fire but in the frying pan -and she’ll never hand over power to you.
This coming election has to be used to break the woke list candidates, plus Murrell, Surgeon and all the placemen/women. Success in that would be a very important victory.
From that point, you could build a very strong case for independence, if you use all the talents.
Moeanwhile, most of Scotland has to be thinking an SNP goverment under Sturgeon of an independent Scotland would be a shambles. It has ben a shambles for a good few years already.
Education, Health, Business, Trade, ublic Sector, Law, Holyrood, Media -all currently rubbish I say.
-and worst of all, no economic plan to prove we would thrive in independence.
-just the old hackneyed “EU would welcome us with open arms” (no they wouldn’t and we would be far more shackled inside the EU. To paraphrase the useless T.May, you are either independent or you are not).
Is this Click Bait Larry – Keep dangling the worm , I aint biting!
@Geoff Anderson:
“To those who claim the ISP should share the banner with AFI
a) The Greens are not doing so.
b) Explain why I should take part in a manifesto development, vote on candidate selection, contribute funds to a Party and THEN have my seat represented by an MSP I would not have voted for.”
a) Straw man. The Greens are happy to be allies of the SNP. You are not, by your very words later on (“a long term alternative to the SNP”), so why should they share a banner with you? They are an established brand people trust (albeit for how much longer is subject to debate) – you (and the AFI) need them more than they need you – some would suggest they’d need association with either of you like a hole in the head, but that’s not for me to say.
But it does lead quite nicely onto:
b) Because no one cares a flying fuck other than yourselves. It’s called pragmatics. At least sharing a platform with Tommy Sheridan would give you SOME sliver of a chance and some mainstream media attention, which – like it or not – is your only remote hope of even retaining your deposit. Because right now, that’s the best you can aspire to at this election. Anything else is just kidding yourselves. You’ve left it far too late, and with the Covid lockdown restrictions, it’s not as if you could do any real campaiging anyway.
Do you remember RISE? They were getting practically colour supplements in the Scottish media. Yes, that was largely as a result of a certain Jim Sillars saying he’d vote for them if Colin Fox topped his area list (and lascivious journalists with an unhealthy interest in Cat Boyd), but when it came to polling day they came behind the Scottish Christian Party and the BNP. RISE discovered the hard way that publicity stunts and tame journos are no substitute for solid community graft over a sustained time.
What do you think is going to happen to you? People will vote for you because you’ve got a catchy hi-techy abbreviation?
On that note, do you even have any organisation in place for hitting social media with targetted adverts? I’m guessing not, because sneaking in “vote ISP” plugs on blogs appears the height of your online political acumen. But all your noteworthy opponents – yes, even the Scottish Greens – will. The Greens are a party that’s learned the very hard way to have a professional election machine (even if rank amateurs in Holyrood at times!), as have the LibDems – and those are the guys you are battling to nip ahead of for List seats.
It’s been a standard part of any serious political party campaign since 2016. It’s what now separates the professional parties from the plucky amateurs/downright naive (depending on viewpoint). It also costs money – a lot of it – and having heard of no major financial backer coming your way (you would certainly have boasted to the press long before now were it the case), I’m guessing that’s currently beyond you.
I’m sorry, but I’ve saw far too many budding political “superheroes” proffer themselves to the electorate as “saving the world” failing to realise to everyone else they just another crowd of attention seekers wearing their underpants outside their breeks.
Either you stand together this time around on the broadest platform practicable, ie. vote for independence and the rest down to member conscience, or you’re simply a £500 a pop vanity exercise at the kindest analysis.
But if you guys truly are aspiring to be “a long term alternative to the SNP” as you claim, you will take a deep breath, accept this election is too late, stand down and start planning for the long term, whilst Tommy Sheridan and co assault another Forlorn Hope but unlike Captain Richard Sharpe don’t take the enemy citadel.
Tommy’s got the thick skin for such a gung-ho approach to politics that one day for him it may, just may, work again after umpteen disappointments (stranger things have happened). For others, it will remain supreme folly and soul destroying in the process.
On the bicentenary of the birth of Màiri Mhòr nan Òran (Great Mary of the Songs) and for the approbation of MSPs debating the Hate Crime Bill, I give you her wisdom:
“Ach thig buaidh leis an fhìrinn,
Dh’aindeoin innleachd nan daoi”
(But the truth will triumph
Despite the ingenuity of the wicked)
Another VONC batted off with green support and no sweat for the SNP.
Even if multiple breaches of the ministerial code are proven by both the harrassment inquiry and the Hamilton, I really cant see the greens voting against Nicola Sturgeon. And there is no way she will just resign ahead of the election. Not a chance.
A couple of months ago, Rev said he was 80% sure that Sturgeon would be gone before May.
For me, I see no more than a 5% chance of this happening. I wonder if Rev’s view has changed too. His lack of posts on the subject are perhaps quite telling, but I am happy to stand correctedm
Thanks to those who answered my query earlier. For the past fifty three years I have voted SNP without fail. It just about breaks my heart to even consider not voting for them now.
Michelle Thomson is the SNP candidate in my area, and she is the only reason I would vote for them at the moment. It would be a personal vote, and certainly not one for the present hierarchy.
Andy Ellis.
Someone’s been reading the National newspaper, it was remarkable feat how she committed them all to memory.
Crazy cat
I’ve never noticed that. Last time I voted the register of voters is a list of eligible voters in that ward. The clerk Mark’s a pen through your name just to clear you and you can’t vote again an hour later. They give you a ballot from top of pile.I ‘ve never seen them x ref that ballot next to that register against my name ever.
I don’t believe it, but will check when I go to voting booth this time.
Folks, just seen this and thought it worth passing on. How many among us knew about this? I certainly didn’t until now. Pass it on! link to twitter.com
Ayrshire – Yes they are out in force today!
@ Ayrshire Rob
You do that 🙂
It’s possible they write it on a separate piece of paper these days, rather than on the register itself. But in December 2019 in my polling place, the number on my ballot paper* was definitely transcribed by one person, while the other handed me the ballot.
*It’s possible they wrote my voter number on a list of ballot paper numbers, rather than the other way round. The effect is the same.
John ditto.- I am in East Falkirk and will only be voting for Michelle , because she is a genuinely nice lady. Don’t know who I am voting for on the list. Got to see who has the best chance.
James – At the moment , yes Sturgeon looks like hanging on. However from what I know , Salmond’s lawyers have been asked for their evidence from the enquiry.
You just never know!!
OT Sigh, so SEPA still effectively shutdown due to that cyber attack months ago…
Looks like we now need to create SAPA Scottish Agencies Protection Agency.
The good news is that after a scroll down the SEPA twitter feed, it shows someone has at least still got access to a working communications device, and the time to tweet about International Women’s Day so it’s not all bad.
I guess sorting out licenses costing thousands of pounds will just have to wait though.
link to twitter.com
@Republicofscotland
That’s a terrible thing to accuse a fully paid up Wingser of being! I don’t read comics and have never trusted The National since it was first announced!
It’s actually got more to do with learning Gaelic on Duolingo! 🙂
I’m a big fan of one of her other quotes, which I quoted at Comfytoes Wishart on his blog (which he promptly deleted needless to say!) a while back:
“Ach cuimhnichibh gur sluagh sibh
Is cumaibh suas ur còir”
(Remember that you are a people
And stand up for your rights.)
AYRSHIRE ROB says:
10 March, 2021 at 3:30 pm
Mark Boyle
“The serial no on a ballot is irrelevant in a voting booth. It’s just a ballot number so a total ballot count cant be totalled at each station on issue. You cannot be identified. Otherwise it’s not a free vote.
When you go to the voting booth the clerks just give you a ballot from the top of a pile,there not identifiable to you. It could be last weeks lottery numbers or next weeks on the back, it means feck all.”
Your voter registration number is recorded on the list of ballot paper numbers. The vote could, in effect be traced back to you – but only by court order.
Andy Ellis @4.22pm.
Andy.
I see the funny side of your comment, though if I’m honest I read about Great Mary in the National, in the papers defence they do, do very good Scottish history articles.
Now if you’d have said the Express “newspaper” I’d have believed you that you had been reading comics. If memory serves me I think a fair few folk have taken up the Gaelic due to Dulingo.
@wee chid/ayrshire rob
Yes – your electoral register number is written on the counterfoil of the ballot paper and those counterfoils are returned with the ballot box to the returning officer at the count.
So, you cannot be traced directly from the ballot paper but you could – in certain circumstances – be identified by cross referencing the number on the ballot paper with the corresponding counterfoil and then cross referencing the electoral register.
It is a useful protection against ballot box stuffing amongst other things.
Big Jock 4.09pm.
So am I. Shieldhill. Bandit territory. Or at least it used to be. 🙂
Big Jock says:
10 March, 2021 at 3:04 pm
“Michael – Remember that Rangers are a unionist club. The majority of their fans waive union flags (and I don’t want to hear that they don’t). Because when they had full stadiums it was a sea of Union flags , about 95%.
They are associated with the Queen, The Orange Order and actually anti Scottish beliefs.
So commenting on Rangers is not causing division. The division exists , so we can’t pretend it doesn’t . Rangers fans are hardly a key demographic for yes. The good ones who are not like that have already gone to yes and wouldn’t disagree with any of what I have just said.”
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Aye! I know many Yes voting Rangers fans who are sick at what Rangers presently represent. I don’t think many of them know about Jim Baxter playing keepy uppy against the Auld Enemy and telling Denis Law that it wasn’t enough to beat them we had to humiliate them. I think they might hate Baxter for his views in that respect. I also know many Rangers fans who got tore into Franco’s Fascist Police in Barcelona back in the day. I don’t see many of the present lot doing that.
On Boris Johnson and his supposedly serious attempts to build a bridge between Scotland and Northern Ireland, which if I’m right will never happen.
I’d like say that our NI cousins also suffer in this not fit for purpose union, however like Scotland NI has its Jackbooted unionists, and to be frank for a moment, I think Scotland and NI have enough problems dealing with their own Jackbooted BritNats without a new bridge being built allowing them to travel and cause mayhem abroad.
Now a hypothetical, (as the NI one is) bridge to Finland or Denmark, or Iceland would be a progressive move in my opinion.
The Polling Station handbook for polling staff is available online for anyone to download and read. Lets you know about what actually goes on in the polling station link to electoralcommission.org.uk
@ crazycat & Ayrshire Rob
Aye, you’ve got to have hawk eyes to watch both individuals at the same time as they check off your name on the list and tear off the ballot paper.
Scoring a line through the name on the register listing voters and an addition of 1 for first, 2 for second, 3 for third, etc voter of the day would then tally with start of Serial Nos. on the ballots papers.
It took me a while to grasp it but when we had one new person staffing the polling station the process was slowed enough to catch it.
I take my polling card with me to the booth and copy the ballot serial number and barcode number on the reverse.
This also means I can categorically state my Indref ballot had a barcode on the reverse.
I am led to believe that indyref ballots may not have been from a single print supplier, and were possibly local authority area sourced, hence why some supposedly didn’t have barcodes on the reverse.
Dan @4.21pm.
Dan.
I don’t have a lot of confidence in SEPA to do its job properly they failed to hold the Mossmorran chemical plant to account of air pollution on many occasions.
Also SEPA is superceded by the MoD so God only knows what the levels of pollution are at Coulport, Faslane and at Cape Wrath by the MOD and its secretive activities.
@Mark Boyle
A couple of years ago in the comments under articles in the Herald one of the posters would make seriously sexualised comments towards the male Unionist posters of which I am not one. I posted that this was sexual harrassment and in response one of the champagne socialists who have latched onto the independence cause told me that because the guy who was posting the sexually suggestive comments was gay it was funny.
Re spoiled ballots, for the past few years I’ve been putting a line through all of the boxes and writing None Of The Above, having the FM as my representative led to that. I was happy to ditch my Green vote after figuring out that they were parts of the old Communist Party with a rebrand but not so happy to ditch my SNP vote because they’d sold themselves to become globalists with an eye on EU salaries for the rest of their working lives. For some horrible reasons the Arthur Dalys, and that’s been harsh on Arthur Daly, make it to the top of the pile in politics as we’re seeing with the BAME and selfdiagnosing gaming of the applications.