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Good old murdo, getting the door slammed in his face again…
Utter ?
Excellent!
Aye, arsehole tories are on the march though. If they did’nt own the BBC shortbread gimp network, where would they be…
Chris while quite brilliant as usual, however I think that this is far too sophisticated for even the average right winger???
Personally, I think Murdo’s stupidity is under-rated…
To H*** wi’ stupid Tories. Dundee, you are fabulous, awards or not! 🙂
Chris, BRILLIANT.
Nice one.
I bet he prints this out, frames it and hangs it on his bog wall.
Just to refresh the memories of Wingers :-
In the ancient Roman, pre-Christian religion Janus is/was the god of beginnings, gates, transitions, time, duality, doorways, passages, and endings. He is shown with two faces, because he always looks both ways – both to the future and to the past.
Chris is indeed the expert at hitting nails on the head whine Murdo is the expert of – well nothing really.
@jimnarlene says: 26 November, 2017 at 10:23 am:
“I bet he prints this out, frames it and hangs it on his bog wall.”
Dinna be daft, jimnarlene, Murdo’s cludgie wa’ has nae room fir a Chris Cartoon – its ower fu o photies o Murdo.
Whenever Murdo hears the word “culture” he reaches for his Daily Mail.
Thanks a bunch Brexiters. With the new V&A having taken final shape and being internally fitted out now we were perfectly placed.
When it was being planned the V&A in London sniffly said nothing of their’e was going in it. But now it turns out quite a bit will be. Scottish stuff, languishing in the faults in South Ken instead of being on display.
With Duncan of Jordnanston School of Art and Design turning out new young designers it won’t be short of new display items either.
This scientist is right behind it.
If only we had voted Yes back in 2014 . . .
Oh and is NOT nearly Christmas, we are in full on Birthday season. I’ve just had mine, next is a wee boy of our fond acquaintance then my wife followed by the wee boy’s mother.
Traditionally in our house Xmas is removed on Jan 30. Hogmanay doesn’t start until the evening, because that is our eldest’s birthday.
Xmas is a distracting side show in all this birthday stuff.
As well as being two faced, the God Janus is the master of gates, doorways, and new beginnings. For Scotland, that should symbolise starting down the road to being an independent country. I am certain it won’t be stepping back into full fledged Unionism under the Tories!
The Establishment is clearly pushing Davidson as their salvation in Scotland. IMO that’s a big mistake, for them, so I’m glad they are making it! They’ll get the hardcore BritNat vote, but that’s all.
Muscleguy says:
Indeed {sighing deeply}
But hey, IndyRef2 is on the horizon and we can get it right this time!
Our new state will need to set up the currently missing apparatus of statehood. Umpteen ministries covering the the reserved powers which will transfer to Scotland, IMO we need to de-centralise from the word go and places like Dundee, Ayrshire, Fort William, and Moray should get new government ministries. With that comes jobs, communication, services , and of course wider cultural investment.
Perhaps two letters short. Sejanus was the guy who ran the Pretoria guard and turned it into something corrupt which held influence over every aspect of Roman life.
Murdoch has turned the Tory Party into the camp of the Orange Order in Scotland, filling the Tory ranks with every bigot and zealot in the land who now vote and represent Tory ,who would traditionally be a working class enemy. He is attempting to sectarianise politics.
We could learn a lot from the past. (Sejanus was eventually bumped off by his boss). Beware the ides of March Murdoch.
Brexit still hasn’t happened. Wait until it does. A culture bid is nothing to what is in store. Just the start.
Unless the Tories do their usual. Less rights and decision making for more money. What a mess. It is just horrendous, Every day more problems created. ‘Stong and stable’? Slight exaggeration!
Murdo Fraser!! How can folk vote for that?
Murdo Fraser, Janus wi a silent J
Got his (J)anus handed to him at FMQs this week an a’
🙂
Is that Hugh Janus?
A Tory Brexiteer giving a good case in relationship to NI for staying in the EU. What a plonker.
The UK did not vote to leave, England/Wales voted to leave. The majority wanted to stay. Increasing every day.
An overview of contemporary high culture in the context of the continent of Europe might struggle to find anything worthwhile ‘to rate’. What Hitler’s evil gang didn’t destroy in Europe anglo-american Sky ‘entertainment’, google, twitter, facebook, snapchat and instagram and other narcissistic ephemera are drowning in a mentally stultifying sea of triviality. Great culture needs more than a couple of seconds of attention. It needs intellectual challenge and strife not safety-first, political correctness. The insipid, comfort seeking mindset of latter-day Europe might find the reproduction of the cuckoo clock an effort.
While iScotland flourishes and becomes a vibrant culture of music, arts, dance and language, what’s left of the UK will become a cultural desert, starved of resources and withering on the vine.
The Tories wouldn’t know a valuable cultural asset if it smacked them in the face. All sacrificed in the name of ‘taking back control’
Nice rendering of the MF Chris. You really captured his glaikitness.
Some biased broadcasters. Do not seem to understand the Police/judiciary are supported to be separate from the Legislatory. Some Police authorities have been corrupt for years. Labour – unionist control. Historical, Fifty years of Labour. Masonic.
All the political Parties supported Police Scotland formation. There were controlled by local authority, often political bias. House in Glasgow. Sectarianism supported in the central belt by Police under illegal political authority. Divide and rule. Same with the Media. Controlled by Labour/unionists. Needs flushed out.
The bad apples in the Police are being flushed out.
Any Brexit which does not retain full single market membership will bad things, and absolutely nothing but bad things! No UK city being European Culture centre is just the tip of a big floating turd.
There is no up-side, there is no silver lining. We hear about financial services abandoning the floundering ship, but you don’t have to look far in the news to find more …
” American healthcare giant Johnson & Johnson has pulled out of a plan to build a new research and development facility in the UK amid concerns about the economy. “
http://archive.is/3uApV
… this is going to be repeated over and over across the UK. Why would any sane company want to invest in a state which is throwing away the best trading links on the planet and intent on contracting its economy by as much as 10%?
The barrow boys of er Barrow voted for Brexit and now we will all experience the delights of living in a nation of barrowboys.
Personally I prefer a kipper to Janus!
Don`t really get the references apart from the (j) in janus thing,
What`s the yoon gimp been up to now ?
anyhoo,
went to see Alex Salmond being interviewed by Prof T Devine last night in Edinburgh,
very entertaining great stories from Alex,but 2 hours hardly scraped the surface of `oor Alex` life story,(with Alex in full flow you would need two months 🙂
why the red trousered detritus of Gordon voted out one of UK`s best politicians for a no name right wing zealot is a stain on the history of the county.
O/T: I see that Yahoo!News has just republished “Digital Minister: I’m fed up with SNP botching broadband so millions will go directly to Scottish councils” from yesterday’s Torygraph. (Usually the question with Yahoo journalism is whether the “news” is 3 days, 3 weeks or 3 months old.) I suppose it highlights the messy division of responsibilities in this area. You’d think that The Most Powerful Devolved Wee Parliament In The World would have complete control, wouldn’t you?
And I see that one commenter suggests that, in any event, the bottleneck has been caused by OpenReach failing to upgrade their boxes in time to allow connection.
If the Tories hold Scotland back they hold the British economy back. Hold the world economy back.
Illegal wars, financial fraud and tax evasion. Hold the world economy back. Westminster policies. Scotland outvoted 10 to 1. No Democracy. Electoral systems imposed on Scotland without consent. SNP out voted 6 to 1. To try and keep unionist control.
How to cut taxes in Scotland. Independence. Stop paying rest of the UK debt. Mismanagement and misappropriating of Scottish revenues and resources.
Illegal wars, financial fraud and tax evasion. Westminster corrupt governance.
Trident, Hinkley Point, HS2, Heathrow all a total waste of public money on groteque projects of little value. £30Billion a year of borrowed money. With cheaper, feasible alternatives. Half the cost. £13Billion a year of essential services cuts. Education/NHS/Welfare,
What has political public affairs go to do with some journalists. Except extra remuneration. Unelected biased dunces. Flush out the unionist press in Scotland.
Re above comment – Praetorian Guard NOT Pretorian.
Having recorded it earlier I have just watched our rotund Hon. Lt Col on Marr.
Typical powder puff interview allowing her to spout her usual load of Jackie Baillie.
Interestingly the interview was totally devoted to the National UK Tory Govt.and its alleged triumphs – not a mention of Scotland.
One would be mistaken in thinking that she is a major National (UK) politician and not just leader of one of the minority opposition parties at Holyrood.
Nice one Chris, But where did the ‘J’ come from?
Brexit, the turd that just won’t flush away ….
– Brexit will cost Britain £72 billion in lost economic activity annually, according to an analysis of government figures.
– Leaving the EU is already dragging down the British economy.
– The UK is now growing more slowly than Japan or Italy.
http://archive.is/RZlEr
‘Floating vote’ Scots need to open their eyes, commit to Yes, and let’s get out of this fiasco.
You missed a trick there, Chris. Back page could have said “Queen’s Eleven humped again!”
The Scottish Gov can re adjust Council’s funding allocation. Westminster administration, illegal interference re broadband funding can be countered in this case. Not always.
Westminster give the £2Billion broadband extension contract exclusive to BT. How was it administrated and allocated?. BT was fined on numerous occasions for bad workmanship and malpractice etc. BT was losing £2Billion on an illegal Italian subsidy. The Chairman did not resign but lost the extravagant bonus. For fees and donations? To a political Party. Political influenced board appointments.
The Scottish Gov allocated £400Million more, additional, to extend broadband cover. Now 95% Rest difficult landscape but being done.
Broadband cover will increase Independence support as more people come on board.
I need to get this straight in my thick head
“journalists” who refuse to reveal the names of criminal informants who may or may not be lying about whatever they inform about, because they are criminals, accuse the police of not revealing the names of police officers who may or may not be guilty of something
And then the BBC complains to the Scottish government about it on “behalf of the public” who really don’t care as long as whatever it is is resolved
So is what “journalists” are saying is that they and only they have the right to accuse and print names of folk all over the place, innocent or guilty, and no scrutiny of “journalists” should ever apply because they’re above the law when they say so
This is the same kind of “journalism” that trod all over the rights of Michelle Thomson for years ruining her career and is still doing it to a proven innocent woman
Leveson didnae work very well did it when “journalists” still think the rules don’t apply to them because they’re more important than the rest of us
harry
“You missed a trick there, Chris. Back page could have said “Queen’s Eleven humped again!””
Or
‘Thirldom Thirteen’ to be renamed ‘Baker’s Dozen’. 🙂
Hurrah for the tories, or is it huzzah for the tories. They’re very alike toryboy’s, Murdo, Jeremy, my Slovene girlfriend, cookie cutter toryboys.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-hunt-prepares-for-tory-leadership-bid-as-he-sets-his-sights-on-downing-street-a3701931.html
I would have thought the rear face should have resembled a horses arse tbh.
You missed a trick there, Chris. Back page could have said “Queen’s Eleven humped again!”
Murdo willnae be singing that song about Dundee-Hamilton after the last 2 results.. 🙂
Another janus face. Future UK PM Colonel Ruth’s really something right enough, if you’re the beeb gimp network.
Herald
12 hrs ago
Ruth Davidson in ‘hypocrisy’ row over donation from climate change sceptic
Exclusive by Paul Hutcheon
THE Scottish Tories have been accused of “shameless” hypocrisy over their support for the environment after a senior MP benefited from a donation from a climate change sceptic.
MP John Lamont’s local party received £2,000 from currency expert Neil Record, who has helped fund the controversial Global Warming Policy Foundation.Investigations Editor
Opinion piece in Independent …
” If you want to see how Brexit will really pan out, take a look at what’s happened to the European Capital of Culture
Five candidate cities have already spent up to £500,000 on their final bids, but on Thursday the UK’s access to the European Capital of Culture was pulled “
http://archive.is/vjBDl [text only]
Hawd on a wee minute there!
The 2023 European Capital of Culture contenders are Dundee, Nottingham, Leeds, Milton Keynes and Belfast.
I for one most certainly hope, expect even, that at least one of those cities will be in the EU or EEA in 2023! 🙂
OT.,the unionist are always telling us how bad Scotland would be outside the union but has anyone done a study of how bad the rest of the U.K. Would be without Scotland’s input to them ???imean I do not want to deprive anyone especially children of anything but already people and children in Scotland are better of than in the rest of the U.K. And that’s thanks to a caring SNP government
I am wondering if someone at Tory Central Office set-up Colonel Yadaftie on the Andrew Marr Show this morning.
It was certainly the usual generally soft Marr interview of a Tory, but, on the few occasions he turned-up the heat, the Colonel was floundering somewhat.
Maybe a case of some top Tory reminding her fans in England: “Really, as you can see, she’s not that good – leave her with Jocks, but we don’t think she could handle the important English stuff.”
https://tinyurl.com/y72e8kkw
Link to Ruth Davidson on Andrew Marr for those like me who don’t have access to BBC
Big thank-you to Peter Curran
https://tinyurl.com/y7th5pxk
Andrew Marr Sunday Papers – 26th November
British nationalist bigot, Murdo Fraser, is an ignoramus. [Ignoranus?]
He thinks culture is something you see in Burton’s windae.
Meanwhile Westminster looks set to betray Fraser’s OO friends in the north of Ireland. Disnae metter where he looks the so-called united kingdom continues to self-destruct.
Link to Ruth Davidson on Andrew Marr for those like me who don’t have access to BBC
Thanks Ruby, nice display of Colonel Ruth waffle too. Colonel Ruth waffle on low productivity in particular.
If you’re not getting a decent wage for your work and the average UKOK CEO is, maybe that’s a problem, teamGB productivity wise.
Even stinky olde Graun tories are interested.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/mar/22/uk-ceos-national-living-wage-equality-trust-pay-gap
Executive pay and bonuses
FTSE CEOs ‘earn 386 times more than workers on national living wage’
Another planet toryboy triumph. My works were bought over by a global FTSE corp a while back, with CEO pay at 386 times more than workers on national living wage’
What Graun toryboy’s leave out, that there are literally hundreds more CEO wannabees, just below the CEO’s, all also earning only 286 times the average living wage.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-living-standards-fall-longest-60-years-records-began-economy-household-incomes-costs-energy-a8071146.html
Only in teamGB, do we keep voting in toryboys who exist simply to enrich themselves and their class.
it may suit May to have NI the backdoor route to the EU via efta. Just think of all the wee tax dodges possible. One thing though it will negatively impact on Scotland unless we get out of the union with right wing brexit England supported by Corbyn.
British nationalism should be considered as being similar to an Anglophile cult (see BLiS___d). Scottish independence would emasculate the Conservative and Unionist party’s identity, which has been constructed around the notion of England’s yoonion with a submissive Scotland. This would be a blessing to the world, IMHO.
@BLiS___d
Enough’s enough!
https://europeanmission.redcliffe.ac.uk/vista-communicating-research-and-innovation/the-values-of-europe-family-work-society-politics-and-religion/
Nice ‘toon, Chris, but what does Janu mean?
“…. discussing Labour’s position on Brexit with Dugdale. “Whatever that is,” murmured the absentee MSP for Lothian …. “
Ouch!
Has anyone a scooby what Labour’s position is?
” If Corbyn has concluded that Brexit (even a soft one) will impoverish Britain, render it globally irrelevant, narrow the life chances not just of today’s children but of their future children, weaken its commitment to human rights, permanently damage the jobs market, threaten the long term viability of the NHS, and generally launch Britain on an irreversible downward spiral… if he genuinely thinks that, he needs to say so out loud.”
Will he, won’t he?
http://archive.is/mVQYZ
[text only, some of the article at bottom after comments]
The default position of BritNat Labour @galamcennalath says at 3:49 pm is simple
It is that they don’t have a Scooby what BritNat Labour’s position is.
Earlier this week:
“The Labour leadership whipped MPs to vote down Murray’s amendment to a “ways and means” motion on the Taxation (Cross-border Trade) bill. The former shadow Scotland secretary had drawn up the change in an attempt to exempt EU goods from customs duties after Brexit, therefore keeping Britain in the customs unions.”
http://archive.is/kOLuv
Today:
“The latest incarnation of Barry Gardiner’s Brexit position was on the show. The Shadow International Development Secretary had previously said it would be a disaster to stay in the customs union after Brexit, and remaining in the Single Market would leave the UK a “vassal state””
“Speaking to Marr, he said Labour had not ruled staying in either “off the table”. He said Labour recognised the benefits of staying in “a customs union” with the EU.”
http://archive.is/PcqCf
So they vote against it in Westminster then say it is still on the table, classic BritNat Labour Bullshit.
Davidson is the patsy. Other Tories from the South will not appear. Or they will get slated for the mess. She appears being a wee big further North. Can’t be held to account? Bumps up her self importance. Most of them in Scotland unelected 3rd rates rejects. On an electoral system not mentioned. Another unionist fraud. Marr and the galloping regimental sergeant major.
What is Labour’s position? Anything that keeps them in their cushy number. Even though it tanks the economy. Once again the unionists care more about staying in their seats, themselves, than the economy. They would, beg steal or borrow to keep their privileges. The only way they would turn is if their seats were threatened. That is starting to happen. Even more people want to stay in the EU then leave.
Even the Murray amendment was just a show. A concession to his constituents who voted overwhelmingly to stay in the EU. It was never going to be accepted.
From Chris Johns [Irish Times]
“I’d heard of Michael Collins before I moved to Ireland through my (Irish) grandmother who, with a father from Clonakilty, was convinced she was related to someone who played a major role in the formation of modern Ireland. Hence, I was amused to learn of a family legend that claimed we were linked to a long-dead figure from Ireland’s revolutionary past. It’s only through living here for the last three decades that I began to know anything of the reality of Collins in particular and Ireland in general. One of the many things I learned is that Irish interest in Britain is not reciprocated. I was ignorant before I came here and most of my countrymen remain so today.
It is to the discredit of the British government that they continue a baleful tradition of assuming things about foreigners that have few roots in fact. It’s partly about history. The fiction that Britain joined an economic union in 1973 and was subsequently shocked by the discovery of a political heart beating at Europe’s core is maintained in every discussion of Brexit. There is no awareness either of history or the deeply held continental view that politics comes first. It’s not a belief in politics versus economics but more that unless the politics are right prosperity is always under threat. The political primacy of ever closer union has always been visible and readily apparent to anyone who has ever read the first chapter of any European history book.
Every British negotiator in the run-up to 1973 knew about Europe’s politics. They were confronted with reality every time they met their counterparts at the negotiating table. And they were properly briefed by the British Civil Service. Many high-profile British politicians like (Tory) Prime Minister Ted Heath and (Labour, ex-communist) Chancellor Denis Healy had distinguished second World War records and experiences that meant they had views wholly aligned with Europe’s federalists. But too many of them, aware of the visceral hostility to Europe running through many members of the two main political parties, played down the political truth and spoke only of the economics.
Left also ignore facts
The British public was told, repeatedly, that Europe in practice meant only a free trade zone. All the rest, it was asserted, was continental waffling. The Tory right has campaigned against Europe for the subsequent 40-plus years, sinking ever deeper into a Empire-centric nostalgia as rooted in historical fact as my grandmother’ blood links to Michael Collins. Parts of the Labour Party have been as deluded but from a different perspective: the EU is a capitalist conspiracy against workers. This thinking leads directly to the sight, this week, of Jeremy Corbyn voting alongside David Davis for departure from the customs union. The left also ignore facts: workers rights enshrined in EU law and the awesome gift of freedom of movement (not least to where the jobs are).
An awareness of Irish history – even a nodding acquaintance – would appreciate what happened to Collins, the first and last Irish politician to sign up to a hard border. The idea that Leo Varadkar, or anybody else in this Republic, would, under any circumstances, sign up to another border displays so much ignorance, so much arrogance, so much stupidity that I am left wondering about all those stereotypes of my fellow Brits. Stereotypes that I have wearily tried to reject and counter over the last 30 years.
Brexit has poisoned British political life and it now threatens something similar for relations between the UK and Ireland. Being a Brit in Ireland has mostly been a smooth experience for this immigrant. The cultural differences between the two islands run deeper than many of us care to admit but Ireland does a terrific job of assimilation. It may be coincidence but I was, for the first time ever, the other day told to ‘f**** off back to where you come from’ (I never lost the accent). Was this a small Brexit effect?
Ignorance of history
Ignorance of history and zero appetite for the details of European law have combined to produce the current chaos. How can the British not realise that a customs union logically and legally necessitates a hard border between those inside and outside that union? It really is as simple as that. And how can they not realise what the reemergence of a Border actually means?
There is a solution involving recognition of the economic union that currently exists between North and South. There already are regulatory differences between the North and Britain. This logic could be extended to include the North in a sort-of customs union with the Republic. Imagination and goodwill are, however, needed.
We have heard so much in recent days about how the British have been taken by surprise the supposed hard line taken by the Irish. Similar expressions of astonishment and disbelief are heard whenever the EU reiterates it’s negotiating principles. Somebody should explain to UK politicians about EU law and Irish history. There is no other option open to Varadkar other than the line he is taking. Explain to Davis and May what happened after Collins signed up to a hard border. This isn’t going to end well.”
Confirmation today now that the U.K. is officially “ all at sea” with the Royal Navy now
taking over after the “ changing of the guard” ceremony at “ the palace”.
O/T
Big hoo haa about the Senior service taking over the guarding duties at Buck Hoose the next big change will be the Scots Guards urnae guarding Buck Hoose , canny hiv they rebellious Scots Regiment guarding Betty .
@ North chiel great minds am aw that lol.
Betty wull hiv tae buy ah alarm clock shortly the Bagpipes will be silenced lol , aye its all change at buck hoose windsor castle balmoral & holyrood hoose .
I like the two-headed bust, Chris, symbolic of the Tories not knowing which way to go. I’d prefer they just go!
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@Dan Huil (5.07) –
Thanks for posting that piece – very interesting.
😉
CameronB Brodie says:
26 November, 2017 at 3:01 pm
British nationalism should be considered as being similar to an Anglophile cult (see BLiS___d). Scottish independence would emasculate the Conservative and Unionist party’s identity,
Tis true CameronB. From March, Teresa kicks arse but strong and stable tory catastrofuck GE is only months away
http://archive.is/bG4TO
Theresa May: I will not allow Scotland and England to ‘drift apart’ after Brexit
The speech came after Ruth Davidson, the Scottish Tory leader, told the Telegraph that the Unionists would win another vote by an even larger margin but hinted that Mrs May would not allow a rerun of the 2014 vote until after Brexit.
Mrs May told the Glasgow conference: “As Britain leaves the European Union and we forge a new role for ourselves in the world, the strength and stability of our Union will become even more important.”
It is the torygraph but its the tories all right, a minority, in both Scotland and England, dictating what the majority will do, because they are tories.
Dan Huil says:
I read that article earlier and it gives a very good insight into the UK attitudes and how they got into this mess.
A repeated theme seems to be how the Tories are surprised when something everyone else seems to know and understand comes in front of them. Being blinkered is a big understatement.
This Sky News article also gives a good overview of the situation ….
” Ireland: The Brexit riddle Britain forgot – When the history of Brexit is written, it might not be over trade or rights, but on the effects of a peace settlement in Ireland. “
http://archive.is/Bkpja
The UK has for a couple of centuries been obsessed with trade and making profits. The present day Tory mind doesn’t seem to have moved beyond the Imperial past. Our near neighbours, by contrast, focus on politics. Perhaps this is because so many wars occurred. I include Ireland. The current negotiations are primarily political but the Tories haven’t got their heads round that, yet.
Dan Hull @ 5.07
Very interesting post Dan.
If they don’t know the situation… They should have!
I suspect that they did and that they either don’t care or, they a actually do want rid of Northern Ireland.
Hanging on to the North never made any sense to me.
I always assumed that it was designed to hold the republic back where ever they could.
Now because Ireland is under the umbrella of Europe,the North only has value to Westminster.
In that it could be a potential headache for Dublin on a reunification that Westminster gets to interfere in.
Westminster doesn’t give a shit about Northern Ireland and never did.
If they cared about the people at all they would never have dreamed about an EU referendum until Northern Ireland was settled.
My auld Da used to say “if what was happening in Northern Ireland was happening just outside London it would have been sorted out in a fortnight”.
One letter too many could also have been CHUNT, that would also have been VERY appropriate.
But I suppose you would also have had to put in useless, so maybe not? especially on the Sabbath.
Murdo “Brendas Eleven” Fraser is not just a bigot he is also a maggot.
Wee discussion with a lady member of staff in the local German hypermarket today.
Referring to Brenda’s “wee gimp” Harry’s burd on the front page of the Sunday gutter press getting royal protection.
She was not happy when I mentioned the headline, and agreed it was a waste of money to the tax payer. I said the only way to stop this waste was vote for Indy2, I wont say what her answer was but I am sure GBWO and Strictly Come ??? are high up in her agenda.
Any Trolls, You vote Red/ Blue Tory, you get Tory “Don’t fu*king moan when it goes pear shaped”.
I say, how frightfully planet toryboy. Brexit bill very enraging for youre average Leaver apparently, solution? dont tell em Teresa. Whatever they say about Westminster, there aint no shyster like a tory shyster.
http://archive.is/5Y12a
Theresa May has agreed with Brussels that Britain will hand over more than £40bn when the UK leaves the EU — but keep the final bill secret from the public even when the final deal is done in 2019.
Between the EU the Republic of Ireland, real voters in Norn Ireland and if Scotland gets a grip of itself we have the chance right now to grasp England by the throat with both hands and choke the bullying life out of it
The Republic of Ireland must stay committed to their course Westminster can’t be trusted on anything whether written down or not
Let’s choke them friendly and smiley like, just in the way they’ve done to everyone else always, and then when they think they’re getting comfortable batter them into submission again
Because they’re worth it
The Republic of Ireland must stay committed to their course Westminster can’t be trusted on anything whether written down or not
The Irish are far more powerful than the UK today simply by European Union being an actual democracy and that the Irish can veto any deal Teresa tries to make, any deal.
Its the other end of the BBC vote tory spin machine, like how beeb r4 news gimps try to make Liam Fox look EU/Brexit sane tonight, and how he has the whip hand over Ireland’s border with this shithead union.
Liz g @ 6.52pm
“Westminster doesn’t give a shit about Northern Ireland and never did.
If they cared about the people at all they would never have dreamed about an EU referendum until Northern Ireland was settled.”
Your statement is just so true – when did either side of the UK (English) political class during the EU Ref debates make any reference to either pro- or con- implications for NI?
And yet, the DUP and its ‘Loyalist’ supporters don’t seem to care – its as if any sacrifice by today’s population of NI, and by their descendants, is acceptable. It seems that a democratic vote to remain in the EU is as nothing when set against a willingness to sacrifice for the sake of ‘loyalism’ towards the very same State that gives them scant regard and to a Monarchy that is (just) silent …. and offers them tangibly what?
But then the UK (English) political establishment has a long tradition of what is either a lack of awareness or (more likely) a lack of concern for issues of equity across all parts of the UK & NI.
O/T and Stop Press, A mate in Australia has just told me that Kezia has been voted out the Jungle, she is to be replaced with Zoko Ono who has amazing survival skills, apparently she has lived off a dead beetle for thirty years!
If the UK was in anyway serious about making progress on the three so called red lines with the EU before negotiations on a trade deal can begin then the Secretary of State for NI James Brokenshire would be living more or less full time in Dublin.
They are not interested though in their false belief that it can be dealt with later, later.
That is delusional, the UK will obviously not have made sufficient progress come December to start discussing a future trade relationship with the EU. So far they have agreed on absolutely nothing. This though is the UK governments strategy which I believe will backfire.
No matter what they say about the EU needing the UK, the neediest partner in this relationship is the UK. Yet our negotiators seem blind to that fact. Brexit will take the UK economy down the tubes and I hope the Tories along with it.
Utter madness and that’s why Scotland must be Independent. I never voted for those that will destroy the economy in the UK as well as Scotland. Time to get out and elect a government that will make decisions for Scotland and those that live here.
Over 70% of Scots rejected the Tories at the last GE, it’s plain to see why when you listen to the likes of Ruth Davidson or Murdo Fraser. Useless best describes them
But then the UK (English) political establishment has a long tradition of what is either a lack of awareness or (more likely) a lack of concern for issues of equity across all parts of the UK & NI.”
Great satire, look at him run:D
https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2017/11/24/seen-cartoon-better-nails-brexit/
‘the very same State that gives them scant regard and to a Monarchy that is (just) silent …. and offers them tangibly what?’
Separation from and dominance over Irish Catholics is enough for the bigots.
Some stats about Northern Ireland
2017 General Election
DUP 36.0%
Sinn Féin 29.4%
SDLP 11.7%
UUP 10.3%
Alliance 7.9%
From 2011 Census….
Religion
Roman Catholic 40.8%
Presbyterian Church in Ireland 19.1%
Church of Ireland 13.7%
Methodist Church in Ireland 3.0%
Other Christian 5.8%
No religion and Religion not stated. 16.9%
National Identity
British 48.4%
Irish 28.4%
Northern Irish 29.4%
Passport
No passport 18.9%
United Kingdom 59.1%
Republic of Ireland 20.8%
A salutary lesson for the Scots
https://caltonjock.com/2017/07/24/mundell-and-the-tory-party-actively-aided-by-the-scottish-office-are-the-legal-government-of-scotland-holyrood-politicians-need-to-be-mindful-of-this-or-westminster-will-shut-it-down/
Know some here don’t think much of BellaC but this is worth a look.
http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2017/11/23/two-giants-go-head-to-head/
I have a feeling that indyref2 is gonna be on the backburner – for just a wee whilie. The situation developing on the island to the west is gonna explode, politically typing.
A positive vote in a consultative referendum on reunification, following on from the legislative situation in N. Ireland being sorted, would leave N. Ireland in the same position as E. Germany was, before the reunification of Germany.
The EU had no problem with the expanded Germany, even though E. Germany had never been a member. N. Ireland conforms to all the EU rules, being a “province” of a member of the EU.
The continuation of N. Ireland’s EU status in the above situation should be without doubt.
As in Scotland, it just needs enough people with the guts to vote for it.
Brian Doonthetoon says:
26 November, 2017 at 9:30 pm
As in Scotland, it just needs enough people with the guts to vote for it.
It doesn’t take guts to vote for Indy it just takes common sense and anyone with common sense would need guts not to vote for it
Chortle chortle https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-comment/2017/1117/920981-long-read-brexit/
Hi Graeme at 9:40 pm.
You typed,
“It doesn’t take guts to vote for Indy it just takes common sense and anyone with common sense would need guts not to vote for it”
You have to remember that there is a substational section of voters who don’t read Wings, or other pro-indy media. They get their input from the (largely) pro-unionist TV, radio and press.
Thus, they have to take cognitive dissonance by the horns – and, I feel, that takes guts. To be able to recognise that one has been duped over the years must hurt.
Seen this on Rev’s twitter feed , good idea.
https://weegingerdug.wordpress.com/2017/11/26/to-indyapp-and-beyond/amp/
Tinto Chiel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janus
Here’s the explanation of Janus – a Roman god who looks in both directions… i.e. forward and back at the same time.
Joke of the day Lenny, lol. (not the DC lol btw)
Also seen this on Rev twitter timeline
Nicola’s No1 Comrade?
@ChrisMcCusker67
Nov 25
Today is the 97th anniversary of when England invaded Scotland as Churchill sent the tanks in to stop a “socialist revolution” in Glasgow, with Scottish soldiers locked in barracks and all they wanted was fairness & equality. Same was done in Wales in 1910 with the miners.”
Extremely English Channel 4’s got another war history thing with Guy Martin? about the invention of that WW1 tank that rolled into Glasgow.
Its not that great a show but Martin explains how the UK war gov went round the country raising war bond funding for their new tank invention. Martin’s very bamboozled, that it was Glasgow that raised the highest amount for this tank, £14 million and he seems to want to say that the Scots are mean aren’t they, but settles for sensible.
Yet within a few years, same tanks are rolling into Glasgow city centre, presumably ready to open fire, on the people that paid for them.
Completely O/T
Just noticed (not being a cricket follower) that the body that governs England’s test cricket is called the ‘England and Wales Cricket Board’ but it is also frequently (and formally) referred to as the ‘ECB’ – not the ‘EWCB’. Its logo has a crown and three lions.
I had never spotted this before. All these (little) ways that English exceptionalism/superiority is expressed!
Just listened to the (t)Ruthless Davidson interview with Andrew Marr this morning.
She’s got one answer only and keeps repeating that, expanding where necessary to fill time.
But I thought she was vicious about 1min 30 seconds in –
Marr talks about a toddler wanting to change the TV channel to CBCC ( not CBBC as he meant to say).
Andrew Marr has had a stroke and can get muddled – I think he has done astonishingly well to return to TV and what does our Ruth do?… she mocks him for his verbal slip!!!
‘Turn over to where Andrew?’ with a big cheesy grin, forcing him to repeat it and thankfullly he got it correct the second time. What a horrible thing to do on live TV.
I bet she pulled the legs off spiders and the legs and wings off Dragon flies when she was younger.
Nasty woman. True Tory
stewartb says:
Why is the UK coat of arms always have two sets of three lions in the shield’s quarters?
The Scottish equivalent gets two sets of Lion Rampants, which is fair enough because it’s Scottish.
The UK version appears to be actually an English one. Which is probably because, like so many other things, England/UK/Britain are seen as the same, and interchangeable.
The great thing about Murdo is that he is a ready made caricature. If he didn’t exist we would have to invent him.
Brian doonthetoon
the biggest problem n the Ireland/N/Ireland UK Brexit situation is the DUP.
Theresa May cannot afford to ignore their wishes and they vehemently want to Leave.
The last General Election in N.Ireland saw Sinn Fein win all the seats along the border.
N.ireland has no devolved government just now; Arlene is desperately trying to blame Sinn Fein for this in the hope that she can coerce T May into resuming Direct Rule.
Forster has also been attacking Leo Varadker recently and there is a movement afoot to try and call for an election in Southern Ireland imminently. Any attempt to undermine the Irish government just now would be a blatant attempt to prevent Ireland from having any input from the North or South in the Brexit negotiations.
It is patently obvious that the DUP tail is wagging the UK dog and T May must be bitterly regretting ever having done a deal with Arlene’s merry band of shape shifters .
Galamcennalath’s statistics on N/Ireland make for interesting reading.
I agree with you, I think there could be some fireworks off to the west in a very short time and I would go so far as to say that it could be the Ireland/N.Ireland situation that will preempt the break up of the Union, to Scottish Indy. A reunification of Ireland would be massive but there is no doubt that it would remain in the EU.
It has been suggested that the simplest thing would be for England to Leave and let the rest of us get on with living – wish they would get on with it.
Apparently sheep farmers in Australia are now getting worried about the effect Brexit could have on their trade with the EU.
error correction:
…pre-empt the break up of the Union, NOT Scottish Indy.
Heedtracker, today is not the anniversary of the tanks going into George square, it’s Jan 31st,
I noticed this yesterday when a pro Indy fb group posted, so it’s obviously on the rounds.
Because I am a great fan of “QI”, I know that the three lions are actually three heraldic leopards.
From,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Arms_of_England
“Although in England the official blazon refers to “lions”, French heralds historically used the term “leopard” to represent the lion passant guardant, and hence the arms of England, no doubt, are more correctly blazoned, “leopards”.”
So it begs the question – who will win the fight? Hamish or three leopards?
I know who my bet’s on…
No wonder Murdo does not like European culture.
Norway and their 1 trillion dollars wealth fund have voted NO to executive pay rises of 4 companies that they are invested with.
They have about 9,000 stocks bonds etc good for 1.5% of the total stock market, so when they speak companies better listen.
That Oil fund looks like an even better idea than before.
Lenny Hartley says:
26 November, 2017 at 11:02 pm
Heedtracker, today is not the anniversary of the tanks going into George square, it’s Jan 31st,
Got it! I was struck by the C4 dude explaining how Glasgow had spent the most in the UK, for what was an extraordinary new war machine, then turned on working class Glaswegians. The C4 guys didn’t mention that though, obvs.
Ultimately, we have to look more carefully at this period, with revolution taking over Russia for example. Churchill would almost certainly have ordered the use of live fire on Glaswegians, if needed.
You can still walk up to Maryhill to see what’s left of the barracks the Scottish troops were confined in too.
Graeme @ 9.40pm
BDTT
To explain , I have Been 100% for iScotland since the 60s.
After casting my vote on Sept 18th 2014 , I walked down the hall & out the door with mixed feelings
YES , happy with excitement, it could just be it about to happen in my lifetime BUT inside there was that little “niggle” almost like a wee voice saying “Feck , hope it’s the right thing”
Why would I feel that after nearly 5 decades of wanting iScotland ?
IMHO , simply the subconcience effect on listening as I did then to the MSM !
I suggest we need to try not to be too hard on anyone who voted NO and are open minded to discuss.
The converse to this to ignore the ignorant who still think the YooK is uber brilliant etc They are too blinkered.
I engage occasionally with a few on FB ….. The spout JB all the time!
Their latest is arranging a van to England-shire as a bottle o whiskey in Tesco will be £20 by next year …… Nippy’s idea o min price alcy!
Re. the hidden symbolic reinforcements of cultural domination/subordination, that surround us and help to shape our self-conception. That sounds like semiotic mumbo jumbo to me, frankly. Have some of this. 😉
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/f66b/93d70a3ba41d23704c25d24f0e1a82935d0e.pdf
I would verymuch like to see George Square in Glasgow become John Maclean Square or just Maclean Square
Links
I’m bringing a Bill to Parliament to fix some of the problems with #UniversalCredit
video here
https://twitter.com/Dr_PhilippaW/status/934747607330623489
Sign the petition
https://www.snp.org/haltuniversalcredit
https://thebutterflyrebellion.scot/2017/11/26/the-sin-of-yes-east-kilbride/
https://www.scottobeindy.com/single-post/2017/11/26/Yes2ScotRef-Campaign
http://scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk/2017/11/nick-robinson-you-dont-even-have-to-set.html
https://www.autonomyscotland.org/who-cares-if-leonard-is-english-its-his-unionism-that-is-the-problem/
https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/peter-geoghegan/legatum-who-are-brexiteers-favourite-think-tank-and-who-is-behind-them
http://uk.businessinsider.com/the-economic-cost-of-brexit-in-gdp-2017-11
Bonkers bigots
https://www.politicshome.com/news/europe/eu-policy-agenda/brexit/news/90802/irish-border-dispute-ramps-dup-accuses-brussels-and
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/lack-of-awareness-of-irish-history-in-brexit-talks-means-this-will-not-end-well-1.3305818
http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2017/11/26/will-ireland-really-bring-the-end-of-the-union-for-the-uk/
https://www.globalresearch.ca/how-brexit-was-engineered-by-foreign-billionaires-to-bring-about-economic-chaos-for-profit/5614194
Brexit: aspirations
http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86680
https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/peter-geoghegan/legatum-who-are-brexiteers-favourite-think-tank-and-who-is-behind-them
EXCLUSIVE POLL: Unionist supporters content with East West post #Brexit border controls…
http://archive.is/qBrpy
Key European Agencies Move to Continent, Signs of Brexit’s Toll
http://archive.is/s6cPP
@Dave McEwan Hill
Square of the 31st January 1919……doesnt exactly roll off the tongue but gets people looking up the date and its bloody significance.
The Ulster Unionists are content with their bribes and to hell with everyone else.
Yon Butterfly Rebellion link re Yes EK is excellent, if depressing Nana. I see the Lefty poseurs are out in force again and hindering the independence movement.
As was mentioned in the article, it takes a strange mind to think voting for Oooooooh Jeremy Corbyn! is going to deliver Scottish independence.
O/T BBC on GMS had a so called academic just spouting that police Scotland was put in place without the proper control and oversight structures. What happened to the Scottish police Authority? The neighborrs of BBC on Pacific Quay also are very powerful and that is HM Chief Inspectorate of Constabulary for Scotland. Back in the day they and their back up Civil Service examined and reexamined every expenditure ,all protocols AND every Senior appointment. They are all still in post. Perhaps we are now overreacting to the sensitivities of those who feel hurt or insult.
We should examine whether a good public service has been damaged by demanding unobtainable standards.I feel angry that the real problems and concerns that every public service suffers from time to time may be overlooked.
Hi Nana, good links as ever. The Globalresearch article on who is masterminding BREXIT and profiting from the chaos is interesting. Carole Cadwalladr has not published on this recently. Looks as though the Guardian is restrained by legal challenges, like so many other investigators.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/how-brexit-was-engineered-by-foreign-billionaires-to-bring-about-economic-chaos-for-profit/5614194
From The Independent – “UK financial sector needs favourable Brexit banking deal after paying record amounts of tax, says City of London
The financial services sector contributed record tax revenues of £72.1bn in the past year, prompting fresh calls for a separate Brexit deal for Britain’s banks “
This smells of ‘cherry picking’ and ‘cake and eat it fantasies’ again!
The only way to get a deal which is comprehensive enough to cover financial services is to stay in the single market.
Otherwise, IMO, it seems highly unlikely there will be any deal for banks, one way or another.
The spectrum of likely outcomes stretched from ‘no deal’ through to a Canada type deal. More complex ‘cherry picked’ arrangements are fantasy. A Canada type deal will cover goods trade, not services.
Perhaps it goes wider, from an EU perspective. The UK has always been a bit of a financial buccaneer, laundering money and providing off shore tax havens. Why would the EU want to continue to facilitate this after Brexit?
http://archive.is/tY1Bi (Text only)
Thanks for the links Nana.
I see as we have people with a grand vision for achieving our objective of independence, ‘Yes2ScotRef-Campaign’ we have the usual abysmal culprits, ‘the-sin-of-yes-East Kilbride’ trying to undermine it once again. It’s no wonder we sometimes feel that we’re getting nowhere. Five steps forward … three steps back.
Meanwhile arrogant Westminster with it’s sense of entitlement has just realised that it can no longer ride roughshod over Ireland in general. Penny dropped now? Seemed to forget that the Republic can veto them. The irony, eh? The very fact that Liam Fox (dark money / dark practices) and the DUP (dark money / dark practices) are in cahoots with each other should be sending a clear message to every decent-minded UK citizen that something stinks to high heaven and will end badly if not curbed.
And as more and more people question where the money came from to back Brexit, from Russia, Saudi and the US to name but a few, it’s high time that someone took a closer look at the Electoral Commission. Won’t investigate, will investigate but won’t tell us anyway! Who’s calling the shots there?
We should also be taking a closer look at Darren Grimes …. BeLeave. Wasn’t he a lucky boy? Who in Vote Leave chose him to receive around £700,000 of tax-payers money just before the EU referendum was held? And isn’t it just amazing that he managed to get a Canadian company, Aggregate IQ, to pump out their propaganda so effectively and in such a short time? It’s crucial, imo, that these issues should be clarified before our next referendum especially taking into account the vested interest the DUP, as one example, has in ensuring that we Scots will continue to be shackled to the Union: A Union that the sectarian bigots have great sway over now.
Thanks Nana, @ Dan Huil, good post! There is no UK version of the UK arms, it’s English or Scottish, take your pick! & having a harp stuck on either is an insult to the peeps in Ireland, there hasn’t been a king of Ireland for quite some time!
@ Famous 15 at 9:02am …. “Police Scotland.’
There’s so many policemen now under investigation that you wonder what exactly is going on here?
More and more Police moving in from South of the border. Policemen (and woman) wearing the Union Jack badge and to cap it all the blemish free Northern Irish Police Force involved in carrying out some of the investigations. Arlene must be loving it.
Another tax payer funded wedding on the horizon, makes me physically sick.
We will be enduring months of isn’t it great to be British wedding bonanza – BOKE! The tin foiled hat wearer in me suspects there is some planning that has gone into this, right when the establishment needs a distraction & when the butchers apron needs a bit of PR.
Abolish the Monarchy & f**k the UK.
Actually ragin’.
Will need to re-listen at some point but could swear what Marr said was CSBC which would certainly have raise Davidson’s hackles.
Oh and some BREAKING news to distract us all from the Wonky Westminster Wasters and Botchup Brexit.
To add to the many Royal Family celebrations and commiserations, over the last 70 years or so, constantly being shown on the TV right now they’ve just added a new one:
Harry’s to Marry Meghan.
That will be followed by Harry and Meghan’s freebie honeymoon, Harry and Meghan’s freebie palace, Harry and Megan’s weans, Harry and Megan’s freebie holidays, Meghan’s latest freebie £2 grand dress and maybe even another Royal scandal or ten.
……………………
And some great news. Six Brits to be released from their Indian jail after four years. Scot, Billy Irving’s coming home.
Great links for coffee time Nana! How close we came to not having to call the DUP bigot loonies fellow countrymen and women too. Mind how we were threatened with losing our EU passports, unless we stayed under their giant union jack of lovelyness and joy?
Beeb gimp network local, very excited over Come on Arlene:D
EU referendum: Northern Ireland votes to Remain
24 June 2016
From the section Northern Ireland
“In Northern Ireland, First Minister Arlene Foster said that as a leader of unionism, she felt it was the right decision.
“We are now entering a new era of an even stronger United Kingdom,” she said.
“We campaigned to leave the EU. This is the democratic decision of the people of the UK. This is a UK-wide decision and every vote is equal within the UK. I am proud of the fact that this decision was taken by the people.”
Belter Chris.
Murdo, has more faces than the clock at Glasgow’s Royal Infirmary hospital.
@ Orri Im sure Marr said CBBC the wains programme lol .
It is of course, Come On Eileen! Maybe no longer being EU citizens wont be so bad, under UKOK planet toryboy rule, their bootboy beeb gimp network, DUP nutters…for the rest of our Scottish lives:-(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVxcwe7EcaY
Watching CNN this morning interview people in Northern and Southern Ireland they didn’t want a border.
And they blamed the situation they find themselves in on English politics.
Oh Shite! between the Brexit negotiations, the ongoing quarrel over theIrish border and England losing the First cricket Test, I fear the UK is in deeper doo-dah than we thought.
I base this view on the need to rush out Prince Harry’s engagement. There is no bigger squirrel than a Royal romance, marriage, death or divorce.
We are all doomed, doomed Ah tell ye, if they have to play this deflectionary card at this time.
Clown over on facebook stating the SNP have wasted money, but failing to say where they have wasted it…!!
A wee reminder about the wasted oil resources by WM.
……
Here is another wee bit information on effects of no oil fund.
If just 10 per cent of UK tax receipts from the North Sea had been put into an oil fund starting in 1980 and continuing until 2008, and if the nominal return had been 3 per cent, the value of the fund would have been £24bn per annum.
Twenty per cent of oil revenues on a return of 5 per cent would have created a pot of £66bn per annum.
The failure to create such a fund is brought home when you consider what it could have been spent on.
To give one example, hundreds of thousands of new houses could be built to replace the housing stock Thatcher ran down through her iconic policy of selling council houses. We might not face the housing shortage crisis we do today.
Or major infrastructure projects with no loans meaning no repayments and no crippling interest payments.
……….
Imagine if Scotland were independent, and if the McCrone report was not covered up by successive WM governments, we surely would be long before now, what £24 – £66bn PER YEAR could do for Scotland…!!
£24 bn is nearly DOUBLE our entire Scottish NHS budget.
Or 16 Queensferry crossings (with £700 million change).
Imagine the transformational effect on not only Scottish infrastructure, but the positive impact on education, health, the economy etc…
And to fund ALL these things without borrowing a single penny.
The conservative estimate of 3% return (£24bn) would have transformed Scotland.
Yet, this CAN STILL HAPPEN.
All we have to do is vote Yes in the next indyref, and within a single generation, Scotland would be an incredibly wealthy country with our long term future sorted for all our residents.
There is at least 50 years of oil and gas reserves (Hammond quoted 21 BILLION barrels left) to extract, and that DOES NOT include the potential of the West coast basin, known to be oil and gas rich, but not accessable due to Trident.
A properly taxed/regulated oil and gas sector would make Scotland INCREDIBLY wealthy, and if anyone says otherwise, they ABSOLUTELY ARE LYING to you.
Norway had LESS oil and Gas than we did, they invested it into an oil fund, and look at them now.
£1,000,000,000,000 (£1 TRILLION) oil fund, which actually now yields MORE MONEY per annum, than Norway earns from taxation from the sector !!!
That COULD AND SHOULD have been Scotland, in or out the uk.
One thing is certain, under WM control, EVERY PENNY of oil and gas revenue WILL be squandered.
ONLY independence can create wealth for Scotland, and the social and economic benefits which come with it.
If you are still not Yes, why on earth not ???
…………
As ever, no response..wonder why ?
” If, as seems increasingly likely, the European Union summit on 15 December does not give the go-ahead for talks on a post-Brexit trade deal, we already know who’s going to get the blame.
It will be all Ireland’s fault. “
http://archive.is/LF9L8
Socrates@11.12.
Spot on, Looks like the Brenda & Phil show is going to last a while yet.
Through the history of this sorry excuse of an Empire, State funeral or State wedding to keep the gullible masses underfoot.
Expect to see the “Action Harry and the “Princess” action figures out in time for the “special day??”
At least there are plenty uniforms out there for wee Harry.
In the Westminster great scheme of things, the UK would withdraw from EU. following which the EU would collapse leaving Ireland stranded. Ireland would see sense and accept the authority of the crown and rejoin the UK leaving no need for an Irish border.
This was the great plan from day one and could still work if the Irish are as stupid as Westminster believes them to be.
Sadly for Westminster none of this is likely to happen, perhaps the border issue could be decided by the people of NI.
It would appear from reports in the Herald today that Mr Leonard’s approach to inspiring Labour in Scotland to new heights (of inadequacy?) Will include setting up various commissions and reviews to chart the way forward.
I seem to remember past Labourleaders in Scotland doing the same thing to little effect. Maybe he thinks doing even more commissions and reviews will get a result.
What was it Einstein said about doing the same thing over and over again…?
The royal wedding is more like ah trade agreement noo we hiv ah mair special relationship wie America . Mug manufacturers will be in overdrive producing MUGS for MUGS ( whits ah gathering of Squirrels cawed again ) .
Right on time the Holy Royal Empire rides to the rescue of R Precious Union once again filling the news with the distracting crap they usually fill it with when crisis looms saving the Nation from actual news and the state broadcasters from finding new ways of avoiding reporting it
Prince Harry better hope the four in front of him for the throne stay safe and alive or his girlfriend’s toast just like his Mum and her boyfriend
Times don’t change in the Royal family firm, they have much form for removing folk who don’t fit in
Watch yer back Meghan and don’t be fooled by the smiles
Save yourself
That royal wedding announcement has given me ah bit of ah dilemma I dont know whither tae watch it on bbc ( licence free ) or hingoot the bunting aw fekit any you’s wumming goat any auld issues of the Bunty ah kin read tae occupy my time for that week lol.
Switched on radio shortbread at 7.30 to catch the weather and immediately after there was a piece about Police Scotland with Kenny MacAskill saying it was right for politicians to stay out and let the SPA deal with any wrongdoing if any is determined.
Some other chap was also on and immediately went into some guff about it being the Government’s fault because they unified the forces and the old forces were organic bread or some similar load of shite (there was nothing organic about the Strathclyde police force).
However, charges of bullying against the Chief may be connected to the fact there appears to be issues with some other senior officers. A new broom has tried to sweep clean and met resistance? Just a thought. However, this has little to do with whether there is one force or 8. I couldn’t be bothered listening and switched off the radio. I never feel enlightened when I listen to the BBC any more. It is like ploughing through 3 day old porridge and about as appetising.
Re. the housing crisis and right-to-buy. IMHO, it is an unsustainable policy that goes against the principle of international development law, in that is reduces the ability of many to meet their basic human needs.
http://www.historyandpolicy.org/policy-papers/papers/the-right-to-buy-history-and-prospect#
@ronnie.
No sure about it helping trade with Trump…Markle is an outspoken Trump critic.
Although, she will obviously be told that better change pronto.
HandandShrimp
That got my spidey senses tingling. Was any indication given of this other chap’s political affiliation?
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/conservatism/
Thoughtful of Prince Harry to announce his engagement during the Black Friday sales period. Saved me £35 on his engagement present. A DNA testing kit.
Does anybody know if his dad is still in the Army?
Bread and Circuses, like Divide and Rule, is an old establishment trick to fool the gullible and keep the establishment in charge.
Today we have Harry and his new girlfriend. The British nationalist establishment must be hoping their engagement will, once again, fool the gullible and take their mind off the disaster that is brexit. It might work in England and britnat bits of the north of Ireland but it won’t fool the rest of Ireland and it won’t fool Scotland.
I wonder if harry will be wearing his Nazi armband during the wedding ceremony?
Though an organic view of society might appear attractive, it does not deal well with the march-of-time or real-world events, such as technological progress and changing social values.
https://pure.qub.ac.uk/portal/files/17525826/Andreasson_2014_Conservatism_in_Political_Ideologies_4th_ed.pdf
http://traditionalbritain.org/blog/edmund-burke-organic-theory-society/
https://www.psychotherapy.org.uk/news/ukcp-set-vision-conservative-party-conference/
Though an organic view of society might appear attractive, it does not deal well with the march-of-time or real-world events, such as technological progress and changing social values.
https://pure.qub.ac.uk/portal/files/17525826/Andreasson_2014_Conservatism_in_Political_Ideologies_4th_ed.pdf
http://traditionalbritain.org/blog/edmund-burke-organic-theory-society/
https://www.psychotherapy.org.uk/news/ukcp-set-vision-conservative-party-conference/
Oops, sorry.
For the lot Cameron?
F.Meek
Nah, the double post mate. Political history and philosophy is important but I’m not trying to give folk the boak. 😉
Here’s one for folk who don’t click through. An academic insight into “common sense”/”populist reactionary” politics.
Peter King’s recorded talk – ‘Disdain of the Past’ – at the ‘Another Country – is there a future for Tradition?’ Conference – organised by the Traditional Britain Group and the Quarterly Review (2012).
http://traditionalbritain.org/blog/peter-king-reactionary-politics-and-what-they-can-or-cant-teach-us-about-future-conference/