The world's most-read Scottish politics website

Wings Over Scotland


Europe and the crystal bawbags

Posted on December 11, 2011 by

The media commentariat – or at least, that majority of it which sits in the Unionist camp – has been in quite the foment ever since David Cameron's refusal to do whatever it was he refused to do at the EU summit this week. (Despite thousands of column inches and airtime minutes having been devoted to hyperbole on the subject this week, nobody actually seems very sure of what, if anything, has or is about to meaningfully change in the lives of the British citizenry as a result.)

In Scotland's press, the consensus is that whatever it was that happened (or possibly didn't happen) is a massive game-changer in the campaign for independence. Pundit after pundit has lined up to hyperbolically proclaim the huge impact that this will have on the referendum, and more broadly on the SNP's thinking with regard to its attitude to Europe. The Scotsman in particular is beside itself with excitement – Eddie Barnes posits some worst-case scenarios including the UK leaving the EU entirely while the paper's twin old Tory buffers Alf Young and Bill Jamieson both tack a few paragraphs of Scottish scaremongering onto the back of a pieces about the ramifications for Britain generally, with Jamieson's ending with the spectacular assertion that "an independent Scotland would be little more than the fetid fag-end of a Vichy vassalage".

Everyone agrees that as a matter of urgency the First Minister must rush back from China with a definitive statement on what this all means for Scotland, its future choice of currency and its future relationship with the EU, lest the electorate be left uninformed on these critical issues when the referendum rolls around in three or four years time. Which, our more alert viewers will probably be pondering, is missing the point by a fair few kilometres.

The most obvious thing to note, of course, is that the referendum is years away, and nobody has the faintest idea what condition the Eurozone will be in next Tuesday, far less in 2014 or 2015. Coming up with any sort of plans at this stage would be a huge, idiotic waste of everyone's time, because the entire continent could have turned upside-down half a dozen times by then. It's entirely conceivable that there might not even be a Eurozone by 2015, or indeed by next spring.

It doesn't get you any headlines for dynamic, thrusting governance, but sometimes the only remotely sane thing to do is wait and see how things pan out. The fact is that any possible independent Scottish membership of the Euro is realistically AT LEAST ten years away – we have to have a referendum, if it's won there will be a lengthy period of negotiation over the details and the paperwork, then an absolute minimum of a couple of years using Sterling in the meantime, then another referendum on whether we want to join the Euro, then in the event of a Yes vote there's a minimum of two years of participation in ERM2 as a condition of being allowed to adopt the currency.

So even if Scotland becomes independent and rushes to join the Euro far faster and more enthusiastically than anyone imagines possible, we're looking at 2021 at the very earliest before it would actually happen. That's at least two Scottish Parliament elections away, at which point the sheer stupidity of demanding the current Scottish Government peers into the ever-shifting mists of the future and gives us its considered view on the subject right this minute becomes all too apparent.

The second silly aspect of the manufactured furore is the assumption that most of the Scottish electorate gives much of a hoot anyway. The turnout in Scotland for the last European elections was a staggeringly low 28.6%, which doesn't seem to suggest that it's a burning issue for the voters. And when the BBC conducted a Scottish poll in April 2011 to find out the top 25 political topics people cared about, it didn't even bother to include a single Europe-related one in the list.

The defenders of the Union are adopting something of a scattergun approach, blasting away blindly with anything they can lay their hands on in the desperate hope that something – anything – might stick, and throw even a few grains of sand into the wheels of the independence campaign's momentum. So far, none of it has worked. No matter what angle they use to try to strike terror into the heart of the Scottish public – the economy will collapse, we'll be overrun by Al-Qaeda, you won't be able to visit your granny in Carlisle – the electorate just gazes at them with the mixture of contempt and pity you reserve for the guy in the street with the shabby coat, the long unkempt beard and the placard reading "THE END IS NIGH".

Trying to frighten Scottish people into staying in one Union, while simultaneously shrieking that to do so will be to strand us on the periphery of another that the UK is dramatically distancing itself from, is a bizarre and contradictory stance which isn't likely to improve their fortunes any. We're not sure that hysterically demanding Alex Salmond suddenly develops the ability to see a decade into the future is going to be a magical vote-winner. The positive case for the Union seems further away than ever.

Comment - please read this page for comment rules. HTML tags like <i> and <b> are permitted. Use paragraph breaks in long comments. DO NOT SIGN YOUR COMMENTS, either with a name or a slogan. If your comment does not appear immediately, DO NOT REPOST IT. Ignore these rules and I WILL KILL YOU WITH HAMMERS.


  • About

    Wings Over Scotland is a thing that exists.

    Stats: 6,900 Posts, 1,240,811 Comments

  • Recent Posts

  • Archives

  • Categories

  • Tags

  • Recent Comments

    • Young Lochinvar on Binfire Of The Vanities: “Beggars Aye very good bumpkin. Didn’t work out very well for you first time round Adolf -“old boy” eh?May 5, 16:20
    • Young Lochinvar on Binfire Of The Vanities: “James @ 12.33 Aye, auld Hatey gets upset if you don’t refer to his sodomite sins that he considers mere…May 5, 16:13
    • agentx on Binfire Of The Vanities: ““The SNP was formed in 1934 through the merger of the National Party of Scotland and the Scottish Party, with…May 5, 16:12
    • Northcode on Binfire Of The Vanities: “All the posturing and analysing and guesswork (tho we already all know the only winner will be England) surrounding Thursday’s…May 5, 16:11
    • Cynicus on Binfire Of The Vanities: ““ Be under no illusions – The SNP leadership is working FOR the UK.” ========== Absolutely. Any YOON with half…May 5, 16:10
    • Alf Baird on Binfire Of The Vanities: “Aye Northcode, aw the tricks and deceits o colonialism are in full sway here in the auld colony. Oor supposed…May 5, 15:35
    • Insider on Binfire Of The Vanities: “Fatso @ 12:38 “looks like it’s newspaper stand business has folded….” Jeezus ! How old are you, Fatso ? Newspaper…May 5, 15:26
    • lothianlad on Binfire Of The Vanities: “Another brilliant analysis Stu! Unlike the pretendy indy supporter called… goes pop. The SNP are under direct orders to stiffle…May 5, 14:14
    • James on Binfire Of The Vanities: “Aye, Geri; You would think there’s a colonial election soon or something….. They’e piling in like pedos with sweeties at…May 5, 14:10
    • Dan on Seven Days Too Long: “And jist what are Aidan’s relevant qualifications and work experience for him to be such an expert on fossil fuel…May 5, 13:55
    • Northcode on Binfire Of The Vanities: ““Scotland’s colonial ‘condition’ and role of the Kirk” This is letter to The Moderator of The Church of Scotland written…May 5, 13:43
    • Geri on Binfire Of The Vanities: “Looks like someone has increased the twats pay per post from a penny to a whole 5p. He’s flooded the…May 5, 13:38
    • Aidan on Seven Days Too Long: “Thank you for that brilliant summary of the macroeconomics of the oil industry. All this oil being stolen by paedos…May 5, 13:30
    • Alf Baird on Binfire Of The Vanities: ““You know nothing of God” Indeed, and arguably the missionary aspect of colonialism never needed to know much about God,…May 5, 13:24
    • Hatey McHateface on Binfire Of The Vanities: “@Northy I think you’re overlooking the black, Scottish boy who appeared in several episodes of Porridge. Educate yourself, Dude! BTW.…May 5, 13:23
    • Geri on Binfire Of The Vanities: “Yet, Shiteface, It isn’t the religion of peace invading other countries spreading tyranny, hunger, petulance, famine & death now is…May 5, 13:12
    • Northcode on Binfire Of The Vanities: ““Mainstream Media vs. Alternative Media” The distinction between mainstream and alternative media lies in their content, audience, and financial structure.…May 5, 13:07
    • Hatey McHateface on Binfire Of The Vanities: “How odd. Northy seems to have an AI that produces output in English – the lying language of the coloniser.…May 5, 13:07
    • Mark Beggan on Binfire Of The Vanities: “This election for me is not about voting for this or that. It’s about standing on the right side of…May 5, 13:07
    • Hatey McHateface on Binfire Of The Vanities: “Careful how you flap your flippers, James. But I guess you never heard of Onan, outside of your library of…May 5, 13:00
    • Alf Baird on Binfire Of The Vanities: ““We’ll never be a nation again until we learn to mean what we say” Indeed so, Hatey. And, on the…May 5, 12:55
    • Hatey McHateface on Binfire Of The Vanities: “Taking some time out from his tour of the fishing ports of the Moray Firth, James the Walrus graces us…May 5, 12:52
    • Cynicus on Binfire Of The Vanities: “Great Question The only one of your answers that matters is anti-SNP. These devoUnionists are a stronger bulwark of continuing…May 5, 12:45
    • Northcode on Binfire Of The Vanities: “By the way, I’ve read several versions of the Bible, each of them a few times over, and an English…May 5, 12:44
    • Northcode on Binfire Of The Vanities: “For fuck’s sake, Sven, that pish is from the Old Testament which even God tells me (in a dream) wis…May 5, 12:44
    • James on Binfire Of The Vanities: “Quoting your imaginary friend again? Bless.May 5, 12:42
    • Hatey McHateface on Binfire Of The Vanities: ““merely requires better understanding of our colonial condition” Sigh. I guess the most depressing part of that statement is that…May 5, 12:39
    • James on Binfire Of The Vanities: “looks like it’s newspaper stand business has folded….May 5, 12:38
    • Hatey McHateface on Binfire Of The Vanities: ““mainstream media blackout and censorship” OFFS, Alf! What century are you inhabiting? What you write of means NOTHING in today’s…May 5, 12:34
    • James on Binfire Of The Vanities: “Hmmmm…..the “Site Prick” is now obsessed with “bumming”. Interesting segue. Who knew?May 5, 12:33
  • A tall tale



↑ Top