Who let the dogs out?
The popular children’s author and litigious bully JK Rowling, whose personal wealth is measured in hundreds of millions of pounds, has been devoting her time to the tricky task of finding people being rude on Twitter again.
In an attempt to prove that the independence referendum (described by the Scottish Police Federation as “robust but overwhelmingly good-natured”) had been every bit as grotesque as the Brexit one which has seen an enormous rise in serious hate crimes in England and Wales – comprising thousands of incidents up to and including murder – Rowling had cherry-picked out a few unpleasant-sounding social-media comments and compiled them into a series of delightful collages.
(We’ll leave aside that calling someone “Yoontermensch” is a fair distance removed from smashing them in the face with a plank of wood in the street, say. Though we will, as is traditional, remind readers that every single recorded instance of physical violence during the indyref came from the No side that Rowling lavishly funded.)
One of the comments (visible in the top-right corner of Rowling’s composite image) came from the Twitter account of this site. And we thought it sounded a bit off, so we had a quick check to see if we’d really said something so mean.
This was the sequence of events that it transpired had come to pass.
That’s the Labour leader of Glasgow City Council in January this year, calling on the unsuccessful hamster-cage salesman, BBC Scotland pundit, Daily Record columnist and hapless amateur economist Kevin Hague to “let the dogs loose” on me by way of therapy for the “unwarranted” abuse Hague was whining about receiving as a result of his endless insulting and defamatory attacks on Yes supporters.
(Hague took McAveety’s advice two days later, by suggesting this site was in some way akin to the Nazis, on what just happened to be Holocaust Memorial Day.)
Reflecting on McAveety’s tweet, I’d wondered aloud what the media reaction would be if I were to have used such language about a well-known figure:
The implication being, obviously, that such a line would be likely to be seized upon and used as evidence of the unconscionable vileness of the Yes movement, in a way that senior Unionist politicians (let alone random internet zoomers with 50 followers) regularly get a free pass over.
After a theatrical 10-minute pause, I gave it a shot:
Having just signposted the joke so obviously, nobody took the bait at the time. But evidently Ms Rowling was merely waiting for her moment and hoping nobody would remember the context and circumstances. And today that moment arrived.
So let’s just recap: a senior elected representative of the Scottish Labour Party used some violent language about me, I sarcastically suggested there might be a double standard at play, and then a few months later JK Rowling duly and unironically used my sarcastic response as “evidence” that I wished a grisly mauling upon her.
To be honest, we’re still at least 50% sure the story will appear in tomorrow’s papers as “ROWLING SHUTS DOWN VILE CYBERNAT ABUSERS WITH THE PERFECT RESPONSE”, with Rowling’s “satirist” pal Brian Spanner quoted as an innocent victim.
Because, that, folks, is how you sell a lie.
I know that you meant to let loose these fellas Stu…
link to tinyurl.com
Open the floodgates.
Litigation Litigation Litigation.
We have money, you are the minnions.
Do as yer telt
We control the media, not You.
Now shut Up and eat yer cereal!!!
*ding-dong*
Round fifteen…
I’ve reposted this here as it was to do with what was going on in the above post.
This really has become a struggle for the soul of Scotland.
Slab are in perpetual denial that Blairism isn’t the answer to everything whilst operating on the level of a incompetent village council. The Tories have allowed UKIP back into the fold from whence they came. We have the most right wing authoritarian government in living memory and yet we cannot get beyond the ‘he said, she said’ on Twitter. We seem consumed by who is more of a Nazi.
I was willing to give some high profile Yoons a chance after Brexit but they cannot seem to get beyond a few nasty comments containing the words England or English. They seems consumed by the idea that Scottish Independence = Nationalism = Anti English = SNP.
Surprisingly, many are those that who use words for a living, yet their arguments are reductive and puerile. More than likely ego could never allow them to change sides for that would mean they were wrong the first time. So they cling to the idea of all Nationalism is bad.
Hahaha
Rowling’s books are crap and so is she…
I have no money she can take and anyway..whistle.
3 simple points
Yoontermensch I am so having that.
Frank McAveety, you mean the dead man walking Frank McAveety. Come May and the local elections, I wonder what we will find in filing cabinets and random drawers, or in McAveety’s case, random schoolgirls drawers in filing cabinets.
Onwards and upwards
It really is a dishonest type of campaigning by Rowling. You would think it was beneath her.
Anyone can trawl twitter and find exceptions to the rule, often by fictional accounts set up just to provide ammo.
The only reasonable thing to do is to look at the actual facts and official policies of the parties. Turns out the SNP is one of the most inclusive and progressive of all political parties, advocating a peaceful civic type of internationalism, where everyone who lives here can vote in referendums, and where everyone is welcome to live and work.
You only had to watch the Question Time episode the other night, to see the nasty kind of ethnic UK/English nationalism that is dragging Scotland down with it.
Still, “SNP bad”, right ?
I forgot about Kevin Hague.
Who?
Had a wee look at Kevin Hague’s YouTube account and he’s friends with and recommends Brian Spanner’s account.
Rentakill remember them, pest control’s what we need
Am I allowed to say Rentakill, that wont attract the Islands of lawyers will it,
or is it oceans of..or lochs of..or ponds
That’s it, ponds of lawyers
All additional descriptions here…….
Have you tried telling her that gullible isn’t in the dictionary?
Reel ’em in. 🙂
Money doesn’t install Taste – Wisdom – or indeed a moral compass, we all have our own thoughts on the rabid unionists that are among us and who’s control of all the media is totally unacceptable and a total disgrace in a democracy , and the use of money to silence those who disagree with you is the mark of a moral coward so sue me .
Always thought we were quite nice to Colin really.
I only lasted a couple of days just talking economics on the Better Together website. They banned me.
To be fair though just talking economics is a bit misleading. As my old professor joked, you can put three economists into a room and within an hour have four answers. Colin uses his graphs to prop up his a priori political position. That is fine, economic debate is a lot like that. However, let us not pretend he is an innocent amongst villains here. Colin’s economics are quite specifically sharpened along the Unionist edge and his intent is to do harm with that edge. To then be countered if one enters the open arena is no surprise. That said I would never dream of going to his blog much less harangue him.
I have been called many things on the internet. I can’t recall ever being upset or hurt once. I am not sleeping rough on the streets of Glasgow in winter, I am not a kid in Aleppo being bombed, I am not a grieving refugee wondering where my children are. The computer has an off button. Switch it off and walk away and within a week people will have forgotten who you are.
I sometimes wonder how a successful writer with a busy schedule and literally millions of fans manages to find the time to comb Twitter for potentially litigious tweets. Perhaps she has a little man to do it for her?
I wouldn’t give them the ammunition Rev. Seriously. That was a daft tweet.
Do I care what she thinks about anything ? Not a jot. Attention seeker.
Deary me. Anyone would think that poor auld JKRowling is so concerned about the prospect of England losing its empire, that she is prepared to misrepresent the facts and associate with misogynists in order to try and preserve it. Bless ..
It may be an unfashionable view but ‘yoontermensch’ is an invaluable word. I commend it to the OED.
Their final definition might be, “(n), chiefly British. One who engages in angry, irrational, semi-literate, anonymous British nationalism.”
The full defintion would include:
1. All supporters of UKIP.
2. Spanner.
3. Users of social media who post multiple wee union jacks.
4. Any correspondents of Spanner.
5. Any unionist who uses ‘grudge’, ‘grievance’ or ‘Elsie’ with a straight face.
6. Effie Deans.
@ Mrs Grimble @ 6.15pm
Perhaps she has a little man to do it for her?
Islands of little men, surely?
I would ignore them all – every so called writer /journalist they are scared of you and it shows in their ignorant tweets.
And I’ll keep reminding myself that each one of them , no matter how rich , no matter how misplaced their self esteem , they still only have ONE vote.
O/T a worthwhile cause in need of donations
link to justgiving.com
How on earth do her supposed yes friends put up with this pseudo intellectual crap? Can you imagine being summoned chez Rowling and having to listen to her pontificating that you were part of a dark underbelly and were really an anti English Nazi and you didn’t know it?
The problem with society is that they live in a fantasy land created by the media and illiterate fantasy writers that write such drivel filling their heads full of nonesense. Imagine folk getting sucked up into believing in Dragons, wizards, warlocks and other imaginary creatures!! This is why the dumbest in society follow and read and watch crap like this because there life is so dull they need some sort of escapism.
I remember taking the kids to Euro Disney and a group of 15-17 old American kids climbing about the Swiss Family Robinson Tree house and 1 saying out loudly “so this is where they really lived” He actually thought it was a true story !!
This is where all this fantasy writing has taken us and ended up with a society who have been brainwashed by drivel by so called authors ?
Jesus Christ has money rotted this demented woman’s brain?
Like many people, I sometimes wonder what good I could do in the world if I had hundreds of millions of pounds.
Stop people going blind in 3rd World countries for the sake of an inexpensive operation, provide clean fresh drinking water to remote areas of African, I’d buy a newspaper that could counter the lies and deception that is the UK Media, and expose people to the truth,
but never had I thought about wasting my life looking to pick the most insignificant of trumped up verbal battles on social media.
You have been fortunate to land one of life’s Golden Tickets. You are in Willy Wonka’s Chocolate Factory and you are complaining about the taste of the wrapping paper.
Go get a life and do something positive with it. Please!
@Effigy
You have been fortunate to land one of life’s Golden Tickets. You are in Willy Wonka’s Chocolate Factory and you are complaining about the taste of the wrapping paper.
Go get a life and do something positive with it. Please!
I really think that is better than anything JK Rowling has ever written.
You at least have compassion and it shows.
Oops, my comment went into moderation because I accidentally used my nic I use for another site, unrelated to the matter of Scotland.
It was just a quip to Mrs Grimble above, pointing out that J.K. Rowling would surely have islands of little men doing the work for her.
What I find distasteful and super annoying is the hypocrisy, taking things out of context, selective quoting and playing the victim, all well-known bully tactics. Oh, and the wiff of sneering condescendion that seems to emanate from this particular individual.
thingy says:
22 October, 2016 at 6:13 pm
Have you tried telling her that gullible isn’t in the dictionary?
Reel ’em in. ?
…..
This reminds me of the old classic…
If you say “Orange” slowly, it sounds like gullible….
…..
Anyhoo..on topic, it is difficult to believe this sleekit stuff from the likes of JK and her cronies on Social Media speaks to any normal human being on earth with a brain cell.
(picking words very carefully here, to be respectful to Stu’s blog, since we know what she is like).
Like I mentioned on the previous thread, I don’t trust this woman an inch.
She’s posting up loads of individual tweets, taking them out of context. like she did with the Rev.
It proves nothing yet she is using these to try to prove Scottish nationalism is racist or anglophobic.
That she has spent such a long time on this today, suggests the unionists are really worried.
And why does she @ in Spanner and McColm to every tweet, weird?
I gave up listening to Rowling on Scottish politics in about 2013-2014. She keeps on coming out with that anti-English smear, a standard troupe and theme of the unionists/Brit nats in Scotland. If sub-Daily Mail rantings is what Rowling and company are reduced too, then I say let them stew in it. As a somewhat amusing aside, I see Grouse Beater’s avatar in one of Rowling’s screen shots or whatever you call them! 😀
Jay Kay is Scotland’s present day Daniel Defoe
Clydebuilt , na! I enjoyed Robinson Crusoe .
I wonder how many democracy loving, civic nationalist yes voters have contributed to that womams wealth, and how does she repay them
Graeme
It seems Jakey is good at fiction. She also invented the ultimate nasty journo (based on Siobhan – or was it the other way around?) – and the autobiographic character Dolores Umbridge. No wonder fact and fancy intermingle.
@muttley79 says:
Grouse Beater is JKR’s neighbour and AD too
So, in effect, JK Rowling has done a very similar to what she vexatiously extorted money from Natalie McGarry for. It’s about time we unleashed our own small island of lawyers on her ‘sitting like a dragon on a Mountain of kids pocket money’ arse.
I am worried about Ms Rowling.
There appears to be something wanting in her life.
She has money, power to do as she pleases, yet here she is getting involved in an Ethernet bar room brawl.
There is a sadness in her eyes.
I get the sense that she doesn’t really mean any of her ‘nasty nationalist’ rants.
It may be argued that it is a form of attention seeking, which seems slightly uncomfortable in one who must be the highest profiled individuals in the world.
See you same time next week, Ms R , until then, keep taking the tablets.
I’ve never read anything by Ms Rowling so I can’t comment on the quality of her writing.
A good friend was very enthusiastic about the Harry Potter books maybe 15 yrs ago and I made a note to maybe read them sometime, though I’m not really that much into fantasy.
Sure, I loved the Narnia books as a kid (not so much as an adult because of the blatant Christian overtones – I’m a non-religious person), I’ve liked Mary Stewart’s Merlin trilogy and Marion Zimmer Bradley’s take on Avalon.
I love the Lord of the Rings, and I’m happy that I know the amazing translator personally as a colleague and mentor – she’s a hoot, and so professional… and now maybe facing an uncertain future in Brexit Britain.
I’ve liked the Game of Thrones books, but for the past decade, GRRM has failed to deliver, the TV show will tell the end of the story and I’m not so sure the author will ever get there…
But my favourite, one that hasn’t turned sour over the decades, is Ursula LeGuin’s Earthsea trilogy. It’s very much about personal responsibility, personal integrity, and tolerance. (BTW, all the people and main characters are brown, only the Kargad “savages” living on the periphery are recognisably white.)
So, yeah, I might be a potential reader of mainstream fantasy. Ms Rowling’s political stance and petty posturing on twitter has ensured I’ll never touch her books. I doubt it makes any difference to her, but it makes a difference to me.
I am worried about Ms Rowling.
There appears to be something wanting in her life.
Yeah a seat in the lords
You’d think with all her wealth she’d just but out and be fucking thankful
Graeme
Jack Collatin says:
22 October, 2016 at 7:46 pm
I am worried about Ms Rowling.
There appears to be something wanting in her life.
Yeah a seat in the lords
You’d think with all her wealth she’d just but out and be thankful
Graeme
@Jack Collatin
I suspect loneliness, because of her great wealth she just can’t seem to allow herself to get close to anyone.
I guess she makes do with online pals such as Spanner and McColm.
Strange bunch to be spending time with when you have millions of followers. Despite her wealth I wouldn’t swap her life for mine to find myself in the company of those.
liz says:
… I noticed that. Online besty.
Not all super rich super stars are nasty bitter loonies.
link to en.wikipedia.org
Do JK and the Spannerati really equate the violence and killing that has happened and continues to happen in post-Brexit England with the lack of violence surrounding the referendum in Scotland ?
I mean do they believe or are they trying to comfort themselves, since that is the future they wished for us.
A thread containing @Brainspanner1 and the terms nobody need to feel unwelcome could qualify as a dictionary definition of Oxymoron
According to the Newman’s Own Foundation website, over $450 million (USD) has been generated for charity since 1982.[10] The company co-sponsored the PEN/Newman’s Own First Amendment Award, which was presented annually to a United States resident who had fought courageously, despite adversity, to safeguard the First Amendment right to freedom of expression as it applied to the written word.”
The right to freedom of expression, as the UKOK reprobates in Scotland lie about and smear Scottish democracy. She just wishes it would all shut up and go away. I think she’s actually Adam Tomkinski in a wig. He’s another chronic windbag bully and fraud. He even says he’s been bullied off the internet. What a bunch.
That poll today from BMG reported in the Herald showing Labour on 14% for both Holyrood constituency vote and UK GE voting intentions is an eye opener.
link to bmgresearch.co.uk
Do you think that this disaster for Labour is because we Scots are too stupid as JK seems to believe? Or is it simply because the scales have fallen from most Scots eyes?
I’d go with the latter, the stupid person would be one that throws away a million quid to support something clearly on the way out. Slabber are but a parody of a political party.
They have turned against Scotland and I will never forgive them.
The whole tirade of tweets is so bizarre.
Her entire argument is that the tweets represent the hypocrisy of those who want to make Scotland a welcoming place for foreign nationals even though they are not the ones making the offensive tweets.
Compare the tone set by the UK and SG governments. Compare the rates of hate crime in rUK and Scotland after Brexit. Yet she chooses tweets out of context to say what, that they make her feel afraid? I am really sick of the low brow arguments of this woman.
@Clydebuilt. She would love to be Daniel Defoe but he was MI5 level, she is not even a good troll. One of the sad things is that she is destroying her brand for many young politically astute people who cannot reconcile this one dimensional political pygmy with the author of beloved characters from their childhood.
Tried clicking the pics only to find she’s blocked me!Should I feel special?
Welcome to fireworks season!
Woof-woof.
Tick tockage (’bout 90 bpm ra now)
SCOTLAND XXX
Just to reiterate..
SCOTLAND XXX
Anagach @7.59pm
Do JK and the Spannerati really equate the violence and killing that has happened and continues to happen in post-Brexit England with the lack of violence surrounding the referendum in Scotland ?
I mean do they believe or are they trying to comfort themselves, since that is the future they wished for us.
They’re trying to stoke up violence in Scotland. They want to divide Scotland against itself, in the hope enough Scots decide to stay with the devil they know, the mother country, in fear of going the Irish way… Which, BTW, was UK state terrorism, intimidation and propaganda.
Make no mistake, there are enough bams in Westminster to treat Scotland like NI. Scotland is their (colonial) possession and shouldn’t get uppity. That’s the mindset.
I would rather read about Rangers again than the tedious he-said, she-said of Twitter.
Nobody on any side of a 140-character spat comes out well.
Lumilumi
I have always been a big Ursula le Guin admirer. She has one of the finest minds I have encountered in my lifetime.
Currently re reading her books, some of which I read as a young man in the early 70s.
She is clearly cognisant with the essences of various philosophical ideas and uses them brilliantly and with under the radar subtlety.
Her prescience was truly astonishing.
My favourite, which I just re read weeks ago is ‘The Dispossessed’ which is not just uncannily accurate in its assessment of the future of unbridled capitalism versus socialist ideals. At a deeper level it is a critique on Utilitarianism.
I would urge Wngers to add it to their bedtime list.
Ach who cares what that wifey thinks? None of her followers likes us, and I don’t care. If the odd zoomer does click through to this site they may be surprised. For here they will find the propaganda scales pulled from their eyes.
Just ignore her. Once we are independent maybe she’ll go away.
@lumilumi
I don’t think you are too far wrang there lumilumi. Let’s keep our fight for Independence as a peaceful fight. Else I believe we will already have lost.
We shall not lose, we will not lose no matter their despicable tactics.
Just had the dog under the shower; he was pure boggin’!
Think perhaps JK could do with shower. It would cool the mind and relieve some of the stress. She might also realise that, out of her finery and away from her purse she is no better or worse than any of the rest of us.
Allow me, Geeo. She’s a sleekit bastard.
Comes across as deeply unhappy as well. Perhaps we should be more unders…
Nah, fuck that. 🙂
Lumilumi
Just noticed you said ‘Earthsea Trilogy’. You may not be aware that after some considerable hiatus, she did produce a fourth in the series which offered a degree of closure to the saga.
If there is one minor crit. I suppose it might be that she is often guilty of finishing her books in an on going, unclosed manner, which I am sure was quite deliberate.
Chic. Ditto u k Le guin. Her books played a big part in my younger days.
Any chance we can take Rowling to court over this????
Chic McGregor @ 8.37
Hey, I’ve only read the Earthsea trilogy (on my own, voluntarily) and The Left Hand of Darkness, because my university tutor (a Scotswoman) made us read it. She also made us read Robert Burns’s poetry and tried to explain “difficult” Scots words like “mirk” and “kirk” and we were all like d’oh, roll eyes. We all knew Swedish (it’s compulsory to learn it in my country) so we all saw it’s mörk and kyrka – or kirkko in my native language.
I know Russians are big fans of Robert Burns but people in my country find him more accessible because of our knowledge of Swedish. Lots of Scots words have Scandinavian roots.
For the sake of balance you might be interested in this piece on the case for the union post-Brexit link to thesparkuk.blogspot.co.uk
Dr. Jim. Don’t you mean ‘cesspit’ of lawyers. Can I emphasise please, please don’t respond to abuse with abuse no matter how tempting, just copy it to Police Scotland and most certainly be robust but don’t give them any ammunition just stick rigidly to FACTS.
Auld Rock
JKR unfortunately is clearly a deeply unhappy person! Why else would she associate with people like Spanner and McColm and other low life in the unionist gutter. She obviously has an inferiority complex to even read the foul stuff that Spanner puts out and she continually attempts to draw attention to herself. Needs help – her subconscious is telling her to behave differently but she hasn’t the character to admit, even to herself, that she is wrong. JK is more to be pitied than disliked! Great shame for one who has talent of some sort.
Hey, Chick,
I don’t mind authors leaving the ending open. It’s a direct challenge to us readers to supply the epilogue we want – and the epilogues would be as various as all the readers.
Open ends challenge us readers to think for ourselves. A neat, all tied-up ending by the author puts the readers in the place of a child. “The story is done, now go to bed.”
ewen says:
22 October, 2016 at 8:49 pm
“Chic. Ditto u k Le guin. Her books played a big part in my younger days.
Any chance we can take Rowling to court over this????”
Too much money I’m afraid the law doesn’t prosecute people with her money, she’s untouchable and she knows it
history will take care of JK Rowling
Graeme
Could it be that JK Rowling is a spook? Her campaign is calculated yet devoid of any genuine passion or emotion. I assume she works as part of a network on behalf of the state – a professional and cynical troublemaker.
I do not give an ounce of credence to a word she says. It seems to me that she is profoundly untrustworthy.
Forget it folks. JKR is the epitome of her own fantasy world. She really believes in what she writes. To true, PROUD Scots, pure FANTASY.
To use a well known phrase, with, perhaps, a variation on the words used, she’s “more to be pitied than pissed upon”.
Ignore her.
I always try and respect opposite views, but when someone is so willfully blind to the truth, to such an extreme degree that she duplicitously creates a false narrative… well, I don’t need a ‘Sorting Hat’ or moral compass to know what ‘Hoose’ this ill-willed besom belongs in.
“SLYTHERIN!”
Frank (I was in the canteen eating pies) MacAveety, won’t be so cocky next year, when Labour are out on their ear in Glasgow.
JKR is a national treasure whom we cannot discredit.
I have never used twitter and after three pints then a bottle of Merlot with my dinner I realise why it is too risky.
The late great Margo McDonald used to say that you don’t realise the magnitude of task you are taking on when you challenge the British Establishment and their hangers on
They have all the right wing media on their side that sets the agenda for the BBC and other broadcasters.
The London/ Westminster elite will always have the bulk of the propaganda outlets therefore we do need to step up the doorstep and street stall campaigning hopefully armed with an updated Brexit Wee Blue Book.
@Auld Rock
You don’t mean me do you? who’d I abuse?
Muttley: “I see Grouse Beater’s avatar in one of Rowling’s screen shots!” ?
Oo err, Mrs!”
I’ve dropped a few posts on her site pointing out the illogicality of this or that nonsense she’s sent to her loyal troops. She never answers or quotes them, nor reposts this:
link to wp.me
Manufactured outrage timed to distract from the R of chaotic headlines for the Unionists by JKR. It does seem deliberate that she has composed the montage so that the Revs tweet is the prominent one.
I always assumed that Spanner was a close knit collective based around an In-joke by the Scots based media and that Maggie( Lady Darling) Vaughan was at its centre or an exaggerated version based on her Twitter persona and language.
Does Ewan McComb live anywhere near them in Red Morningside?
BBC Sarah Smith was brought up in that area too!
Spooky!
R = run!
Old keyboard manipulated by old fingers!
I’ve been given access to the plot line of Rowling’s next novel. Harry Potter is so concerned about the rise of nationalism, he waves his wand (no laughing at the back of the class) and magically the Austrian Empire is recreated as deluded Czech, Hungarian, Croat, Slovak, Polish, Slovene and Bosnian nationalists realise the error of their ways and agree to being ruled once again from Vienna. Harry is delighted by his success, and waves his wand a second time to recreate the Russian Empire. Ukrainians, Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Poles, and Finns accept that they have been indulging in vile anti-Russian nationalism and must return to Moscow rule. Hagrid points out that the last time Europe’s map looked like the one Harry has recreated, the world was plunged into “The Great War”. Harry gently points out that only nationalism causes division and conflict, and, therefore, Hagrid must be mistaken. Harry walks away as ever triumphant, undisturbed by the shells exploding around him.
FWIW, I don’t believe that SMcF is a trained journalist. Her writing is simply not up to the most basic standards required.
If she’s not a spook then she’s doing a passable impression of one.
Much preferred Terry Pratchett to Rowling. Rowling’s stuff never had the breadth or depth in comparison.
Take “Interesting Times” for example or the much darker “Snuff”, makes Rowling’s stuff look pedestrian. As the man himself said “Fantasy isn’t just about wizards and silly wands. It’s about seeing the world from new directions”.
And as for the usual sci-fi fare – you’d have to go a long way to beat Babylon 5 as a space opera (J. Michael Straczynski) …..but if we’d been able to get Iain M Banks’s Culture novels up there, we would have done.
Vile woman. Truth means nothing to her – or her followers.
Attended the Unchain The Unicorn rally in Edinburgh today. The Wee Ginger Dug (isnae sae wee by the way) bit my dug on the arse fer getting too close. Paul says Ginger disnae like dugs!
Expect the Yoon Press headlines to be reporting on the huge outbreak of violence at the event tomorrow!
Please consider the power of the Media.The dogs have been let out and it is the Scottish Indy supporters and our leader who will get the mauling.I see the Media becoming more and more extreme because as we know it would be a disaster for RuK when Scotland leaves expect dirty tricks around every corner
and no mail in ballots going to England we can count as well as the English!
That’s why I don’t use twitter, too easy to get something wrong in an instant. I don’t mean the millions of innocent fans, my daughter having been one of them with Harry Potter. I mean the twitterati she so desperately wants to consider as her friends, who encourage her only because it boosts their fragile and mirror-centric egos.
@Ian Brotherhood
The bint spooks me.
Rowling’s obsession with anti English sentiment suggests the difficulty she has dealing with any criticism she receives from her adopted homeland. In her head it is plainly impossible for people to dislike her based on her politics, writing, philanthropy or personality. It must be because she is English. Unfortunately the more she reveals of herself the easier she is to dislike.
I remember a professor at Edinburgh Uni calling her out as the only abuse he, as an Englishman, had received was from Yoons. She blocked him as it did not fit with what she wanted to portray.
Always blame the Scottish blairites for corrupting Miss Rowling,
basically Scottish Labour,Scottish Media,Scottish Establishment,
we all know the names,
they were all over her like a bad suit when she got famous,
why would an immigrant/refugee, who was treated so well when she came to our country,give £1,000,000 to a bunch of low Life`s to f*ck over our/her new country?
@ Pentland Firth, above
Haha! Thanks for the laugh. I’m inordinately chuffed you mentioned my country. Because we stupid, poor Finns should know we’d be better off being better together with Russia.
Finnish “nats” were first ridiculed and branded as “fennomaniacs” but they embraced the moniker, much like Scottish “cybernats”. The times were different, my country faced actual state cencorship of the press. Several pro-Finnish newspapers were shut down.
It didn’t matter. We didn’t have the internet but the message spread from the intellectuals to all those farmers’ societies and all those workers’ associations. “Fennomaniacs” – pretty much the majority of common people – staged “musical evenings”, skirting around the cencorship laws. They’d play dangerous and subversive music like Jean Sibelius’s proscribed, cencored, forbidden music, like Finlandia.
If we could do it before the internet, Scots can do it, but it needs to be a grassroots effort.
Thepnr at 8.09
The reason that Labour is so low and behind the Tories is very simple. The establishment decided about 16 months ago that Labour in Scotland couldn’t save the union. They have promoted Ruth and the Tories continuously since while throwing Labour and poor Kezia overboard. That is all.
My only surprise to date is that Kezia doesn’t appear to have picked this up as yet.
Ruth has made no statement of any political substance but she has been on HIGNFY twice and she has taken the Tories up to the unprecedented heights of 20% in the polls – ie no upwards movement at all!
So it’s not actually working for them. I rather wonder what they will come up with next – as they assuredly will. I don’t give Ruth much hope of long term survival in her present position.
Keep an eye out for the SRA and other clumsy concoctions shortly.
Actually they are doing our work for us. They don’t understand. They are setting up a Scotland v the Tories contest which is exactly what we have been rowing towards for some time. While there are some Labour supporters who may vote Tory most of them will not and besides most of them are already in our camp. The LibDems will get more coverage than they deserve as they could conceivably get some Labour voters. But I now see signs of moderate Tories beginning to walk towards us as well.
Interesting times
David Neil, hope yer dug is ok, the ginger dug growled at my dug at the last Glasgow Rally and Paul explained not to let him get close as the ginger wan was a rescue dug and didnae like other dugs.
So people don’t let yer dug near the real ginger dug as well as biting the hands of project fear it will bite yer dug on the erse.
Graeme,
“Too much money I’m afraid the law doesn’t prosecute people with her money, she’s untouchable and she knows it”
The likes of her are untouchable under the rotten to the core Scottish justice system. Never forget how Carmichael got away with it.
But worse for her, she has been publicly outed as a lying bully by the Rev. Stuart Campbell on his widely read blog.
Will she dare unleash her lawyers on the Rev. Stuart Campbell?
No, because all bullies are cowards.
BBC Mis-Reporting Scotland billboard funder just about to go over £6,000
and that is since Thursday night
link to gofundme.com
With online pals such as Spanner & Co i truly believe Jakey Howling feels she’s “slumming it” and “getting down and dirty with the peasants.” A truly sad individual indeed.
With her wealth i’d have far better things to do with my time such as (2 of them the same as Effijy’s): “Stop people going blind in 3rd World countries for the sake of an inexpensive operation, provide clean fresh drinking water to remote areas of Africa,”
I would also create a super cyber hub employing, full time, the best of all the independence sites such as WOS, GAP, WGD, Cairnstoon etc etc etc etc.
I would also create the best ever independence supporting radio station pumping out the length and breadth of our country 24/7.
Then i’d have the very best PR and logistics operation money can buy, getting the message into every household all over Scotland.
Then i’d buy my wee log cabin up in the hills for me and the boss, with our dogs, and spend the rest of my life laughing like feck at London begging for financial bailouts.
Slainte!
😉
@Dave McEwan Hill (11.40) –
Serious question.
I’m not expecting an ‘answer’, but would love to hear your thoughts…
There must have been a point, probably late 2011, when SLab high-heid yins had a conflab about the rise of the SNP, and the obvious consequences. They must’ve done. It’s unthinkable that any competent organisation wouldn’t address such a significant threat to their status and long-term interests.
We’ve all seen McLeish’s latest statement, where he announces to a breathless nation that he’s ‘ready’ to support independence. It’s pathetic grandstanding by a has-been, but it revives an important question: precisely when did SLab realise that they’d have to enter into a pact with Tories to defend the Union?
There must have been a tipping-point. SLabbers at the highest level knew (surely?) that any alliance with Tories would be fatal. Who were they, and why did they stay silent or allow themselves to be silenced? Was there a pivotal meeting/phone-call/quiet-word-in-someone’s-ear?
To be fair, Kezia Dugdale herself may not know what happened back then, in which case she has no hope whatever of mounting any challenge to the Tories let alone the SNP.
“Yoontermensch” made me seriously chuckle.
Lumilumi
A simple question. Would Finnish independence have happened if the Russian capital had stayed in St Petersberg rather than moving thousands of miles away to Moscow?
@Ian
There must have been a tipping-point. SLabbers at the highest level knew (surely?) that any alliance with Tories would be fatal
Ian, I believe they thought if they won the referendum that they would have defeated the dreaded SNP and that would be the end of it… LOL..
Her post is meant to be about Scottish nationalism and anti English sentiment, the screen shot of me mentions neither, i was having a pop at some dreadful tories.
Makes me think she was running short on material so padded it up a bit because i had saltire and snp on avatar.
Shex
“Yoontermensch” made me seriously chuckle.”
Aye, that’s gie funny.
Sae whit’s thur mantra? “Taxi fur the ubermensch”?
@Croompenstein –
I hear ye, and see how that makes sense, but I don’t believe the likes of McLeish, Reid, Robertson, Ingram, Foulkes etc didn’t see the writing on the proverbial, probably even before the 2011 election.
By that time most of them were out of ‘provincial’ politics and had their pension pots sorted, so they wouldn’t give much of a fuck either way, but the point I’m trying to get at is that someone, somewhere, at some specific time, gave the nod to ‘Scottish’ Labour throwing its lot in with the Tories.
There’s no way a decision like that was in any way inevitable or ‘natural’. It didn’t happen by some strange osmosis. Someone made the decision to throw ‘Labour in Scotland’ under the fucking bus. It was sacrificed.
JK Rowling amuses me greatly. A fairy-story writer who thinks she’s Ernest Hemmingway. In all her public statements, I’ve never seen anything she wrote that said anything profound or memorable.
She puts her opinion out there in the public arena, and then jumps on anyone who disagrees with her.
I have no respect for her. She came into Scotland on the bones of her arse, lived in accommodation subsidised by Scots, and then used her wealth against us.
In her journey from council house to walled mansion -she accumulated an ego the size of Brazil on the way.
Twitter: a good place for a lot of twits.
Ian Brotherhood and D McEwan Hill
Surely the problem for SLabour branch office in 2013 is that it wasnt actually democratic. Sure they went through the motions but they were scared of the GMB and Unite unions, Gordon Brown and the others such as the Alexanders and the other blairites.
They told the others what to do and MP’s in particular were happy to comply as they thought they had a job for life.
Probably Scottish (?) Labour thought that when they threw their hat in the ring with the Tories against independence they thought the ‘Yes’ vote would be about 30+%.
They didn’t reckon on 45% and that has been their downfall. It is the hardline ‘No’ voters keeping the Tories alive in Scotland.
Just wonder how many of them voted ‘Remain’ and are now angry.
@ Mrs Grimble, 22/10/16, 6:15pm
Perhaps she has a brigade or, indeed, army of spooks raking through sites to find anything to stir into s**t and serve to an unsuspecting public. Probably the same mob feeding the same malicious nonsense via tabloids.
To really irk us, it’s probably paid for via taxes.
I’d be dishonest if I left out the aftermath of our UDI on 6 December 1917.
There was a civil war between the “whites” (the prosperous middle classes) and the “reds” (urban workers and rural poor). All of whom supported independence, just not the kind of indepence each party envisioned. It all took place with the backdrop of the Russian revolution and WW I.
It was all wrapped up by spring 1918, but the sores festered until WW II. That was a time when all Finns had to pull together to protect our independence. White, red, doesn’t matter, just throw the bloody Molotov’s cocktail! (yes, Finns invented that particular weapon.)
The US and UK make all kinds of noises about Putin’s Russia and I just want to scream. I live in a country with a thousand mile land border and a thousand year history with this country. How dare the leaders of US and UK wreck our delicate balance with our eastern neighbour! As if we were just pawns.
The “ugly underbelly” of Finland is that most Finns are anti-Russian. Because of our history. I am, though I have no problem with my Russian friends, they’re very hospitable and expansive and big-hearted and emotional and nice. Lovely people. I just don’t like the Russian supremacist nationalism that’s been stoked up in Russia in the past few years.
And, sorry, no Finn ever trusts a Russian. We’ll try to work diplomatically to achieve our goals – and the US and the UK are not helping. I just get so mad, they know nothig except nationalist “pride” and have to wave their dicks at Russia.
I’m the person who lives between all this dick-waveing. Thanks a fuck, you self-important power-wankers.
Ian Brotherhood, I honestly don’t know anymore than you do but I would put money on one Gordon Brown being involved somewhere.
Perhaps having been involved in the goings on at the highest level he thought he could some how control the situation?( he does seem to be big on control) Let’s face it , if ever there was a character who over estimated his abilities that’s one but for me?
Somewhere along the line, the old guard in Labour ( including the Fabian’s), knowing they needed the Scottish seats to get control at Westminster and desperate to destroy the SNP , were willingly sold a pup by the Tories.
Brown, Mandelson, Alistair Campbell these guys thrived on trying to show how clever they were, the thrill of the game , the machinations of pulling people’s chains as does George Osbourne etc.
Perhaps they really did believe their own hype , I’ve seen it first hand when you set up ‘ an elite’ group who then come to believe they are infallible.
If David Cameron was brazen enough to summon the heads of big corporations and superstores to no 10 , backed by departments of civil servants, who knows?
Personally ? What has become abundantly clear because of Jeremy Corbyn not despite him, whether it’s Tory or Labour its power that matters – however the means
But here’s a question for you, when we’re talking about Labour.
Instead of churning out PPE students ( or similar degrees ) for decades who then all go work for Labour, why don’t the Oxford elite who teach it miss out the middlemen and stand for election themselves?
Can’t get tae sleep… 🙁
Anyhoo!
Theresa May branded as scalding schoolmarm ahead of Brexit showdown with Nicola Sturgeon (shurley ‘scolding’)
link to archive.is
How Nordic nations can provide Brexit inspiration for Scotland
link to archive.is
and so to bed…?
@Molly (1.43) –
Cheers.
I can’t answer your question because I’m cynical enough to believe that no-one with any ‘real’ power would ever expose themselves to scrutiny via anything so vulgar as ‘Democracy’.
Perhaps we should accept that no-one in Scottish Labour, in recent times at any rate, has given much of a toss what happens here. The ‘duty’ was to secure WM power, at any price.
And now? They’re paying it, aye. Big time.
Political parties and movements come and go, but we, as ever, have to live with the consequences.
The Sunday Observor are running with a story of major banks ‘leaving’ the uk as soon as early next year and smaller banks, before christmas
Sunday’s national newspaper front pages
link to news.sky.com
Chris MacGregor @ 8,37. pm.
Ursula Le Guin?
Ace , Chris.
Ian Brotherhood 12.23
That’s quite a question to want answered in a post,it would probably take a book.
Anyhoo for what it’s worth I don’t see there being a specific meeting, although not impossible (saw a documentary a while back on a Nazi meeting that came up with the final solution shit) it’s probably more of a collective world view.
Where within that mindset they align themselves and a narrative is created.
Whereupon the localised decisions are taken that best fit their desired outcome.
EG, I don’t think that there was ever a meeting anywhere to change Social Security to Welfare.
This not only changed the name of it,but also changed the aim of it.
This change, by anyone’s interpretation of what the Labour party are ment to be for,does not make any sense.
Yet they did it…they all did.
All the while still claiming ownership and the safest stewardship of the whole system.
I think the posters above are probably right,in that they underestimated badly the aftermath of Indy Ref 1.
Had all of us and the SNP behaved in the expected way,any damage to Labour here,could have been repaired.
The SNP neutered and the Independence movement muted.
All they had to do was get a No vote,the MSM would do the rest.
Their behaviour between the referendum and the general election seems to indicate that they really did think fighting the Tory’s through Labour would go back to being the only game in town.
To Labour it could have seemed like it was them using the Tories to get rid of the SNP,because while the Tories don’t care about Scotland they certainly care about the Union.
Remove the network’s created over the internet from the equation and study the history of defeated movements like ours,and that’s a reasonable move to make.
Why they are clinging to that position is probably because they can see no other way to achieve their goal of Labour running Scotland in the Union.
They need all the help they can get and will take it from anywhere.
Remember that there is actually a good argument to continue with the Union and if you buy it ,it would be worth fighting for,by fair means or foul.
Especially if you are going to be one of the one’s who will be rewarded for makin it happen.
I’ve read all of J K Rowling’s books except for the most recent Robert Galbraith one. I think they are very good indeed. With the brilliant Harry Potter series she helped countless numbers of children to read, including our own.
I don’t agree with her and I am totally opposed to her wealthy shoring-up of Better Together and the Blairites in the Labour Party. I am dismayed at her intolerance of other opinions and her quickness to respond, sometimes with threats of expensive legal help which others couldn’t begin to afford.
Like many on this site I believe passionately in independence for Scotland and I campaign for it as actively as I can.
But I don’t think it helps our cause to vilify her.
@punklin
As well as using her money to force people to her will, she has twisted the truth to her own purposes, by taking the Rev’s tweet out of the context it was in.
That is vile. She vilifies herself.
We’ve been here before.
If you want a yardstick for Internet abuse, just focus on the vitriol that Nicolas Sturgeon is subjected to as a matter of routine in the Britnat press. Take some Dettol with you, and some of that smelly grease moticians put under their nose. Don’t forget Nicola has also had Unionist yobs assemble outside her constituency office and threaten her.
Seems we have missed an opportunity with JK. I heard that Brexit was a bigger demon for her than Independence, which I reckoned might have seen her step into the light and lend her celebrity to backing the only progressive and constructive solution for Scotland.
Seems not. Pity. Pity for us and a pity for JK too. Indyref2 is going to be polarised into a battle of light versus dark to a much greater extent than 2014 following Brexit and the toxicity of English blood and soil nationalism. What ya gonna do Mrs Rowling? Stand by your chums or your conscience?
“I was the worst quantity surveyor ever” – Brian Spanner
“Is that you working on Lynedoch ” – Maureen to Brian Spanner
My dialogue about Semtex wasn’t to Brian Spanner or anyone else, it was an exchange between a fellow Yesser and I which was satire, we were joking about how we’d been accused of being terrorists by Loyalist Yoons. Sayers jumped in and seized the opportunity.
Sayers then reported me to the Police – months after that dialogue, on the eve of an election. The Police asked my wife which polling station I was assisting at. (I’m not an SNP member so wasn’t at a polling station).
The Police accepted my dialogue was banter, I was able to show them the full two way convo. They were more interested in my Rottie called ISIS, which if Stu wants to borrow, she’s well trained and has jaw strengthening training with a car tyre.
And folks wonder why I’ll never have reconciliation or peace with Yoons, they are NAW bags and cowards.
Jeannie at 1251 am,
This comment sums things up exactly, “In her journey from council house to walled mansion -she accumulated an ego the size of Brazil on the way.
I do, as I have often said before, like others, find it rather sad that somebody lucky enough to have gained so much wealth basically behaves like a class A dick.
OMG Fundementalist Gordon Wilson, who opposed devolution, on Radio Shortbread at 8.30 am saying IndyRef2 is a waste of time.
Jk you know the only actual recorded televised evidence of actual violence. Was George Square. When your fellow unionists ran amok in the square,pushing children,burning Scotland’s flag and threatening old ladies. Oh and the failed attempt to set fire to the Sunday Herald office. Oh and the Labour Representative who whacked someone at a polling station.
You are correct Jk there was violence and intimidation. It was from your fellow thugs, your litigious threats and bullying and a general hatred from unionists of yes voters. Take a look at your bed fellows Jk. They are the same hardcore Brexiters now operating down south. The Rule Britania, God Save The Queen bigoted racist disk heads.
The yes vote was about leaving them behind but you still can’t grasp that. In a revolution the wealthy lash out because they fear change and equality. They are blinded by self centered greed and can’t see the people who are suffering. Money and wealth are futile and temporary. You will be remembered for your actions and what you leave behind.
Once again Jk uses the Rangers technique, deny, blame others,lash out, intimidate and an inability to self reflect.
Just a wee reminder of the funding effort to get billboards across Scotland pointing out how the blatantly propagandist and anti Scotland BBC misleads people. Just a wee further push to target.
link to gofundme.com
Nothing like a failure for telling you where you’ve gone wrong! Just listened to Gordon Wilson talking pish to Brewer, who obviously couldn’t get hold of a current & sentient member of the government to interview. If ever there was a suitable case for euthanasia, Wilson fits the bill.
“Is that enough sawdust under the seat for you Gordon?”
Wilson, they will have Jim Sillars lined up next. Another liability.
Think tweets like this just give them ammo. Of course it will be used out of context and lapped up by the establishment propaganda machine.
Much better just to retweet or quote their hateful tweets.
I laugh at the continuing power of the media to fool people into thinking money is anything more than electronic keystrokes. The huge banking lobby of course precipitates this.
Scotland represents the UK’s energy security. The stakes are incredibly high for England.
In any exit negotiations between Westminster and holyrood it will become very clear just how huge Scotland’s per capita net financial assets actually are.
O/T
I am greatly cheered that not one United Kingdom broadcaster or dead tree press news outlet has mentioned the Edinburgh protest march that took place this weekend.
Now if that is not a clear sign they are in abject terror of what is the inevitable return to Scottish independence then what is?
Do the yoony loony people really believe that if they just ignore it that it is going away?
JK craves attention … why give it to her? Only a fool would think she might consider voting for Independence. Ignore her FFS!!
Breeks says:
I agree completely. The evidence is all around us because it is already happening. Leafleting the other day I was very aware of increased animosity from ordinary BritNats voters. Not spontaneous but driven. They all spout the same twisted word bites they have been fed.
It didn’t need to go like this. I shouldn’t have. However, I suspect degeneration into nasty behaviour, rather than decent democratic discourse, is exactly what is being fostered intentionally.
@ ScottieDog
That might also happen during negotiations between the EU parliament and westminster.
Its quite clear the EU position after the treatment she got from them,she got a taste of what it will be like to have no influence in the EU parliament they ignored her political cold shoulder treatment.
If the full horror of the untenable position May is striving to reach did not became clear to her at that moment i would be surprised lol
och Rev is yon wee stalker lassie still following you about i did warn you about those tory lassies they are all mental this one was just seeking a wee bit attention after your new stalker was getting it all,you are getting soft and have you checked guest cat in case its a yoon robot cat made out of bru cans controlled by mad effie and the spanner gang.
Ian B,
I think it was quite simply that Power at Westminster is far more important to the Labour party than Scotland (or in fact anything else).
The Westminster MPs didn’t want to lose their jobs and they held a lot more power in the party than mere MSPs and outranked them.
Independence meant the party losing all their Scottish seats whereas siding with the tories might lose them some voters. The Scottish MPs couldn’t imagine losing their safe, ‘weigh the vote’ seats.
They were so out of touch that they even thought sending a ‘big-shot Westminster Blairite’ to head up the branch office would impress the natives sufficiently to bring the voters back.
If your ambition and career course is to be a UK minister you have to be in the UK. There was no decision, it was obvious.
“Scotland ‘must be treated as equal partner’ in Brexit talks”
“Scottish ministers said they will expect the Prime Minister and the UK Government to demonstrate how they intend to deliver on their commitment to involve the Scottish Government fully in discussions”
Dugdale, “The best deal will allow us to retain what is best about our relationship with the EU while remaining an integral part of the UK.”
link to archive.is
IMO we will be told to get back in our wee shortbread tin. Hee-Haw is what we can expect!
Andrew Marr fluffs another toryboy BBC style, HS2, HS3, great for norf power house. Sunday Rancid the Graun in its Scotland region, griping about art or something, something, jibberish,
“We’re killing national treasures and closing our minds to great art
With the disastrous decision to axe the art history A-level because – allegedly – not enough expert examiners can be found to mark the papers, we see another downgrading, another reduction in the opportunities to contemplate art”
Double helpings of Wilson today as he dampened Indy 2 with his own brand of melancholy woe on shortbread this morning, although he almost…almost got round to saying “unless there’s a material change in circumstances” when mentioning that Indy 2 ‘MAY’ be foisted on Scotland soon.
He is on tv later ‘Sunday Politics’ (Scotland) a gleeful Brewer reminds me… Aye right!
I also noted shortbread telling us the bankers and car industry being lined up for a special Brexit deal and then they began trashing Norway… my porridge sort of lost it’s appeal at that point this morning so I switched it off. 🙂
Coming up next, one of the BBC Breakfast presenters that gave us Nic Sturgeon the escaped gorilla, on their national news show 2 weeks ago, wants to talk about racism on her Sunday tv show. Cant they take a joke?
Hyotheticals.
1.Do not joke or “banter” around Unionist. Eg if you were to hint that North Korea had problems with democracy,you would find a headline saying you helped North Korea with advice and encouragement.
2. The Tories in Scotland will not stop but delay Indyref2. Tomkins their constitutional expert (snigger) says they will just delay it no doubt to a time most damaging to Scotland. Timing here is important for smooth transition .
3.Sound bites have a disproportionate importance in modern communication. Repeat the good ones on social media.eg Ruth Davidsin is an actual Tory and never forget it!
Tried to donate to Misreporting Scotland, but its page told me that my card code was wrong – rechecked and everything was correct. This is a bit concerning. Anyone else had problems?
Bankers are leaving. Farague being promoted again by MSM. SKY thirsty for war. Don’t they ever get sick of it. MSM and the Westminster Unionists are the pits.
Still people can’t distinguish from EU Union and UK Union. Totally different.
Roll on Independence. The Tories are destroying the world economy.
galamcennalath
Did any one ask Dugdale how she thought that would happen?
Spontaneous collages spontaneously appear under spontaneous Spanner tweet. Spooky. ?
seems like they cant Heed lol
They don’t seem to like the EU very much today i wonder why maybe they should leave,oh wait that is what we are all hanging about for,cant Nigel sign it well it is his baby as poor Theresa looks like a wee rabbit in the headlights of a 44 ton wagon.
Got to hand it to our Dave though mans like Houdini with a weird pig habit,is it a super power the ability to feck off and pass the proverbial onto everybody else?
Brian Powell says:
Indeed. Her position is a perfectly valid one for a pro EU Unionist, given how little we know about WM’s plans. However, realistically, what are the chances of retaining full single market features within the UK!?
So, yes, Dugdale’s dream outcome is currently the same as the SG’s. The SG also have a fall back position if/when that becomes impossible, IndyRef2. What is Dugdale’s Plan B? That is what we really need to know.
When she and her party have to make a clear choice between EU and UK, which will they chose? I reckon they will opt UK and their numbers and influence will diminish further as more supporters switch allegiances.
Call me Dave
I heard the Gordon Wilson long interview. To put it succinctly he said that he felt that we needed between 5 to 20 years depending on circumstances for a successful independence bid. He was quite adamant that it was coming. He actually said that the currency issue was a lot simpler now. He also noted that time was on independence’s side as the British generation pass on. However, he also said May’s Hard Brexit could force the issue much sooner.
So yes he was low key compared to some of us but I am not sure he is a million miles from where most of us are on this matter.
Mis-reporting’s immediate headlines after the interview were a travesty of the content of what he said. The spin was blatant and an insult to the intelligence of anyone who had just listened to the previous half hour. The moment they started on Norway I went and made a cup of tea. “Norway digs into oil fund during downturn in oil price shock horror”. Or “Norway uses oil fund for its intended purpose expose”.
Of course Scotland doesn’t have an oil fund…wonder why that is?
Misreporting Scotland – I commented yesterday about difficulty and discovered it was about the Postcode (Zipcode) you have to put postcode in then select from the pull down menu. Hope this works – keep trying – we need this so much.
Said this before:
There is no way a woman of Rowling’s crowded weekly schedule, contractual obligations, and society meetings, can sit at the Internet and pick out ambiguous comments to exploit as evidence she’s above reproach, those seeking self-governance evil. It has to be the job of one or two staff members.
Then again, she briefed them as to what to look for, how to categorise what they find.
For that reason, what she is allowing done in her name makes her despicable.
Their precious union that they have such an unhealthy obsession with is in danger, they will stoop to no low to defend it, we should not be surprised. This person is merely the messenger, someone is providing her with the bullets and researcher to to find and distort any communication whose message can be falsely edited and use to attack a country or people seeking self determination.
Sadly, despite uk unionist’s crocodile tears, malability and inaction over brexit, England lurching to the right, an non elected prime minister with no mandate, trident renewal, comtinued austerity, Scotland and her people being treated like second class skivvies plus constant lies from English based press, ignoring of Scottish government’s mandate, etc, the will be more and more of this to come!
I assume the author in question has switched her political alleigience from tory to labour, quite a story there!
Right now – Dugdale in full on Warp Factor 99 with the verbal diaorrhea on Murnaghan.
There’s talk about delaying granting permission to hold a binding referendum until after Brexit. Which unsurprisingly would mean the scenario where Scotland simply negotiated a retention of the UK membership for itself rather than face an increasingly remote possibility of a veto from Spain or France both of whom seem pissed of at Westminster for some reason.
Obviously if devolution did have something to do with being in the EU and the rights we had as EU citizens Westminster might feel brave enough to move to abolish or diminish the few powers Holyrood has. Given there recent actions regard the so called Turing Bill they can whistle before I’d trust them.
Independence, or not, before Brexit completes is the most sensible course as it lets Scotland, the rUK and the rEU know where they stand and doesn’t mean they have to go through even more negotiation. The rUK and Scotland being in the single market would be the best outcome for all concerned but that’d take a bit more common sense that Westminster is displaying at the moment.
I can’t understand JKR? It’s as if she is fed a daily diet of SNP bad headlines, not even the story below?
Is she looking for validation? Is she a maniac depressive?
The sad fact is the society we live in has enabled her to be a shining light and example to youth, instead she seems determined to paint herself as some sort of, god only knows, a cartoon baddy?
She doesn’t realise that the strap line writers in the two main Scottish broadsheets, and one, and I know this for a fact votes SNP, and laughs at idiots who suck it all in!
So here is the dichotomy, she writes about the battle of good always overcoming evil, and her personal life is a vision of ambiguity. Her friends are the bottom feeders, the lie makers, the discord spreaders, slavering drooling yes men, the arse lickers of Scottish journalism?
As I said, and to quote another writer, one whose works actually will survive, “something is rotten in the state of Denmark”.
Craig Murray
?@CraigMurrayOrg
#marr astonishing BBC neo-con lovefest. Amanda Platell, Aaronovitch, Bomber Benn, Suzanne Evans, Grayling. Sickening.
And now its a couple of ferocious tory twerps, Ligger Neil and Rory the Tory, waffling UKOK on the Ligger’s BBC Sunday Politics show. Rory the Tory is getting massive BBC tory stuff so maybe he’s planning to take over Viceroy Baron Fluffie Mundell’s position as controller of their Scotland region, where the natives are revolting quite a bit.
iclare
Spanner is a quantity surveyor from Lanarkshire.
heedtracker says:
23 October, 2016 at 9:54 am
Andrew Marr fluffs another toryboy BBC style, HS2, HS3, great for norf power house. Sunday Rancid the Graun in its Scotland region, griping about art or something, something, jibberish,
Ruby replies
TUT! TUT! TUT! More talk about what’s on BBC!
Some people don’t subscribe to the BBC so don’t know what you are talking about!
I reckon those who do subscribe to the BBC & want to talk about BBC progs should record the prog and put it up on You Tube! Merci mille fois!
End of gripe!
Next
Ruby’s French for beginners
Mot du Jour
Bof!
“How did the evening go with Theresa May Mr Juncker?”
Bof!
I like the word bof! I think it would be easy enough to guess what it means. Perhaps the English equivalent would be ‘whatever’ or ‘who cares?’
Feel a bit sorry for Kezia, she is fast becoming as relevant as Willie Rennie….a more damning criticism is hard to imagine.
gus1940 says:
23 October, 2016 at 11:13 am
Right now – Dugdale in full on Warp Factor 99 with the verbal diaorrhea on Murnaghan.
Ruby replies
TUT! More live TV talk!
Got a link to this prog on catch-up for those who do not subscribe to the BBC?
Good god….Gordon Wilson on Sunday Politics giving it the whole “not yet….too difficult because of oil downturn…long campaign needed….”
Completely un-interrupted of course by Brewer…
….
Wilson is a gift to the unionist media…!!
Feel a bit sorry for Kezia, she is fast becoming as relevant as Willie Rennie….a more damning criticism is hard to imagine.”
If they get back in, or the BBC and chums can get them back in, they’ll wreak havoc, not just on SNP Scots.gov policy but especially on Scotland’s devo progress. And same Pacific Quay crews will love them for it, as will Scotland.
Brewer just been handed his arse by Partick Harvie…..!
Trying to tell Harvie he has massive leverage on the referendum vote issue…
Harvie basically tells him that the greens believe in independence so that would be un ethical…Brewer raging.
I can’t watch TV so I’m off to Google.fr to practice my french.
Deuxieme mot du jour
actualités
I’ll do a cherche in ‘actualités’ for Brexit, Theresa May,Ecosse etc and in ‘shopping’ for Biscuits anglais!
Anyone interested in the ‘Biscuit anglais’ results?
Non/Oui?
It might be more interesting than Kezia!
Iain Macwhirter:
Time to set tribalism aside and put Scotland first
link to archive.is
In Brexit we have the unstoppable force approaching the immovable object of Europe, with Scotland currently stuck in between.
I do not think Westminster is the unstoppable force at all by design, but unstoppable in the sense of a runaway train without anybody’s foot on the brake. By contrast, I suspect our Southern cousins might be surprised by just how inflexible Europe is planning to be. Brace, brace, brace for impact Scotland….
IF, and I hope that’s a big IF I am correct, then now is the time for some crisis management by the Scottish Government to formulate a buffer zone for Scottish interests before we get squished by the impact.
It might be an off-the-wall suggestion, but I wonder whether a Tory Government with Britain in crisis might consider the unthinkable, and far from opposing Scottish independence, indulge it, but on the precondition that Scotland’s independence could offer limited access of some form to the single European market for the rUK.
The arrangement might be similar in principle to the holding pen status proposed for Scotland. Suppose instead Scotland rushed to independence with the blessing of both Europe and Westminster, and it was England which was offered a transitional status, on its way out of Europe, but given perhaps a three or five year transitional period to refloat its economy and adjust to the new reality, or more likely, suffer the impact of Brexit, recognise the calamity of it, but have a little breathing space should the country suddenly wake up to the folly of exiting Europe.
Scotland could be the transitional conduit for trade between the EU and England, in itself a transitional status for Scotland. There would be a strong element in the deal of European compromise to placate the Britnats, and a corresponding injury to the UK’s hubris to please the Europeans (and very real change in status). Scotland gets Indy, Westminster gets a temporary soft Brexit, and/or time to change its mind, and Europe doesn’t lose U.K. trade over night, but does lose Westminster’s arrogance and obstructiveness over EU affairs.
The biggest downsides would be whether the rUK’s economy could properly survive with crippling debts, an even worse balance of trade, and the loss of Scottish assets. That alone could be a deal breaker for Westminster, but Westminster is deep shit whatever it does. At least this uncomfortable choice has tangible benefits.
The other downside is Europe itself. For some I am quite sure news the U.K. was leaving Europe was a golden opportunity not to be missed. They won’t be in any mood to concede ground.
What think yee’s to that scenario?
@Liz G and Cearc –
I suppose the most obvious explanations will just have to do until we get great revelations in decades to come, but quite a few of us won’t be around to see them.
It just sometimes feels so strange – we were ‘here’, we witnessed the death of SLab first-hand, but then Kezia Dugdale turns up and you have to give yourself a wee mental kick: this character is the leader of what should be a major force in Scottish political life, but she may as well play the spoons when she’s on the telly, at least that would have some entertainment value.
The cheating spouse analogy arises again and again – if I caught my better half in the sack with a Tory (*shudder*) I’d at least expect her to get out of the bed before delivering excuses or explanations. But SLab haven’t even done that – they’re STILL in there!
Strange days indeed…
call me dave says:
23 October, 2016 at 12:09 pm
Iain Macwhirter:
Time to set tribalism aside and put Scotland first
Got this far,
“The First Minister’s ferocious attack on the “xenophobia” of the Tory conference will hang over tomorrow’s Brexit joint ministerial meeting in Westminster like a dark cloud.”
Fair enough he’s playing to the tory Glasgow Herald gallery but what was ferocious about it? “We’re making a list of all foreign workers,” “If you’re a citizen of the world, you’re a citizen of nowhere,” wild cheering from tory conference, tory BBC led tory media but its not tory xenophobia though.
britnat hypocrisy never fails to astonish. Socialist Rowling lives in a multi-million pound bubble.
Ooops forgot to add the following to last post
Troisieme Mot du jour
Biscuit
English = Biscuits
American = Cookies
Anyone know why we use this French word in English?
Bonus French word = cuit
Are the UK really going to make a fortune selling Cookies to the World?
MacWhirter has come off the fence.
Why can’t the Westminster Unionists agreed to stop taxing the Oil & Gas sector at 60% to 80% when the price has fallen 75%. Stop taxing the Gas sector at 40% and imported untaxed fracked Gas from the US. Stop tax evasion. Stop Scotland paying back repayments on loans not borrowed or spent in Scotland. Let Scotland stay in the EU. What is wrong with these people. The Tories are destroying the world economy. Westminster policies depopulated Scotland. A 40 million disaporia. Immigration policy should be under Holyrood control.
Scotland could have had a £300Billion Oil Fund and full employment without Westminster interference.
Some authors accept National honours from France etc.
Vote SNP/SNP May 2017. Vote for Independence.
Gordon Wilson has dedicated an entire long life to Scottish independence, even when it was deeply unpopular, and at risk to his career. He ran an illegal pro-Indy radio station.
Nobody disagrees with him more than I do on the timing, but he should not be mocked.
C’mon surely someone must want to know the results of my Google.fr cherche for English biscuits! 🙂
link to lagrandeepicerie.com
Do you think the UK Gov might want us for our biscuits!
Nicola Sturgeon comes out swinging with a right and a left and there goes the bell as the opponents return to their corners Scotlands FM with John Swinney and over in Theresa Mays corner Boris Johnson and Kezia Dugdale ringside with the SPIT BUCKET
What a complete and utter embarrassment to not just her own party but the whole of Scotland for that cringing performance this morning, she might just as well have said do anything you want to Scotland we’ll accept it because we are worthless, I’ll blame the SNP anyway as long as I get to still be in charge
Gordon Brewer eh, C’mon Patrick Harvie betray the SNP you know you want to, do it, just do it
Gordon Wilson resurrected cobwebs and all to expound his opinion based on 1970s Scotland politics to convince us all he’s as bewildered now as he was then, He should really go back to the headmasters study and have some cake and a nice cup of tea and wait for the nurse to take him home
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JK has the same problem all unionists have
I am sure she sees the contradiction in promoting labour and the union when it is so clearly against the interest of the people.
Deactivated twitter account; still use “twitter search” occassionally, but grew tired of puerile personal abuse, a bit hard to take “cretin”, “moron” ,”loony” etc just for tweeting relatively moderately in support of public sector and promoting my profession, trading standards, that is being cut to the bone and now 7 years into retirement that fact is causing me a great deal of concern.For some unfathomable reasons I became a “tweeter of interest” to a few righty tweeters, one of whom, who was a prolific pro Tory tweeter rejoicing in the tag @screwlabour has now apparently got a real job that requires his attention and is much. much less active on the medium.
@Bugger (le Panda) says: 22 October, 2016 at 6:00 pm:
“I forgot about Kevin Hague.”
Who?
I responded to the mention of Kevin Hague in, (almost), the same manner – but it was more along the lines of, “WTF”, if truth be told.
I always get the impression that WM’s main policy to combat Indy is to delay.
They only won Indyref1 by making grandiose promises. They reneged on those almost immediately. That strikes me as poor judgement if your long term strategy is to keep the UK together. However if the objective is to merely kick the ball into the long grass, rather than burst it, the behaviour makes sense.
I think we are seeing this again. Now the target is to push the Scottish constitutional issue beyond Brexit.
However, as others have pointed out, it suits Scotland better to have IndyRef2 well before Brexit to allow smooth transition to continuing state status with the EU.
I would love to be a fly on the wall (Eye in th Sky movie style perhaps) at this week’s meeting!
I agree Craig though i do wish he and Jim would be a bit smarter this modern press blitz can soon turn something one said into something completely different.
I think folks worry they will be put up on a pedestal by the MSM as the face of independence a couple of grumpy old guys, would hate to see them get out their depth with those sharks they are swimming with and you know at some point that will happen.
@Dr Jim says: 22 October, 2016 at 6:11 pm:
” … That’s it, ponds of lawyers
All additional descriptions here…….”
I prefer cesspits of lawyers myself but I’m comfortable enough with ponds.
As I have said before the unionists are trying to provoke violence from the yes side with all their lies and false news the reporters and authors do not seem to realize that they are the ones who are being used .,as I have quoted before they who are most enslaved are those who think they are free
JK has the same problem all unionists have
I am sure she sees the contradiction in promoting labour and the union when it is so clearly against the interest of the people.”
She’s also not been honoured by the queen yet either, OBE style. She must look at Lady Mone of Mayfair and wonder what exactly it takes to be made up to that great UK pantheon of greatness.
Unless shes knocked one back but she doesn’t come across as the type to say no to honours from the royals. Like what say Lord Darling of Rnalashoos clearly struggled with, she’s a socialist worker but makes mountains more money than Lady Mone of Mayfair.
So if future Lady Rowling of Mayfair can get some leverage sticking it to vile separatists on twitter, its a little effort for a lot of UKOK honours Q jumping, no matter how spurious.
Does anyone honestly think JK hasn’t been repeatedly offered and knocked back the highest honours? More than likely when Gordon Brown left – she is best friends with Sarah Brown after all. It will probably be leaked at the appropriate time to show her in the best possible light. Remember the Robert Galbraith pseudonym incident?
@Jim says: 22 October, 2016 at 6:32 pm
“Deary me. Anyone would think that poor auld JKRowling is so concerned about the prospect of England losing its empire, that she is prepared to misrepresent the facts and associate with misogynists in order to try and preserve it. Bless.”
Has it never occurred to you, Jim, that Spanner is JK’s alter ego? Perhaps more correctly, that JK is Spanners evil alter ego in a sort of daft way.
That would be a great title for a book, “The Strange case of Mr Spanner & Ms Rowling”, – or has someone perhaps done something like that before? (Ahem!)
ScottishPsyche summed Harry Potter’s mum up neatly yesterday at 8:11 p.m.:
One of the sad things is that she is destroying her brand for many young politically astute people who cannot reconcile this one-dimensional political pygmy with the author of beloved characters from their childhood.
@Craig Murray
Anybody who puts themselves forward on national TV for or on behalf of politics or indeed gives any opinion on the way people should or should not conduct their lives is a target for criticism or mockery and if anybody knows that it is likely to be Gordon Wilson as everybody from door knocking leafletter to higher office in the SNP is well aware it’s a part of that position that has been constant in the SNP since it’s inception
And I’m one of them as are many many others, all SNP members know this
Just because Gordon is no longer the presence in the party he once was and he’s getting on a bit doesn’t make him immune, if he’s not fit to be there then he shouldn’t be, if he is fit then he needs no pity from anyone either
That would be hugely condescending
I mean no offence here I’m merely pointing out that to be a SNP spokesperson of any standing in the party requires a thicker skin and a stronger resolve than perhaps others
Theresa May has a new fun Twitter account, check it out
The people suggesting JK may have an alter ego are perhaps closer than they think.
I believe it could be her husband Dr Neil Murray. Why ? Mainly because I come from a medical background and know the “black humour” She certainly is very informal with him, and that is unusual for her twitter style.
Someone recently sent him a tweet about “anaesthetising “the Nats. The Rev above posted on here that he felt it was meant to be Euthenise
It makes more sense when you realise Dr Murray was in fact an anaesthetist prior to marrying Rowling and moving on to General Practice.
Anent Gordon Wilson, was he perchance invited onto Shortbread to give Brewer a hard-time? naw, certainly not, he’s there to help make cannonballs for Brewer to fire at the SNP.
We constantly criticise the living dead who inhabit the House of Lords & call for its abolition. Wilson fits that bill minus the dead ferrets! a SOB.
Dr Jim says:
22 October, 2016 at 6:11 pm
Rentakill remember them, pest control’s what we need
Am I allowed to say Rentakill, that wont attract the Islands of lawyers will it,
or is it oceans of..or lochs of..or ponds
That’s it, ponds of lawyers
All additional descriptions here…….
A seabed of lawyers is the term I prefer as in..
Q. What do you call 50 lawyers at the bottom of the sea?
A. A good start
call me dave
In Iain McWhirters article he writes: “But it isn’t clear that immigration really is a red line for the UK Government. Before the referendum, the former Tory Lord Chancellor, and leading Brexiteer Michael Gove, said that Scotland should get immigration powers after Brexit. Asked about this last week, the UK Brexit minister, David Jones, said there would “be discussions about where the powers should lie”.”
He might not mean it lies with Holyrood, but with the Secretary of State ‘for’ Scotland, someone like Mundell.
JK’s ego has grown in direct proportion to her bank balance.
A woman who once claimed she was as poor as it was possible to be without being homeless should have recognised how badly the system treated her under the Labour Governments she now supports.
I believe she once claimed she supported Labour because she believed Labour tackled poverty across the UK.
I’m still not sure what she meant. She seems to be basing this on the premise that pro Labour media told us Labour reduced poverty across the UK.
I have yet to meet anybody who was taken our of poverty by Labour.
It probably didn’t occur to her that Labour didn’t actually help her reduce her own poverty.
Its quite possible she has some kind of dissociative disorder and a dislocation from reality.
Probably why she was so successful in exploiting fantasy and myth.
She can try litigation on me if she wishes I think I have a Net financial worth equivalent to a Labour manifesto promise.
Nice work by Gordon Wilson on our ever so friendly BBC , ok even if you might not agree about the timing have you missed it Gordon the timing wasn’t of our choosing all you are doing is supplying the Unionists with a free shot if you can’t add to the issue shut the f/k up . Please.
What I love about BritNat Yoons is that they can’t see how stupid they look wanting the EU to have less control over them, so they can have more control over Scotland. #LoonYoons
galamcennalath says:
23 October, 2016 at 9:43 am
“Scotland ‘must be treated as equal partner’ in Brexit talks”
“Scottish ministers said they will expect the Prime Minister and the UK Government to demonstrate how they intend to deliver on their commitment to involve the Scottish Government fully in discussions”
Dugdale, “The best deal will allow us to retain what is best about our relationship with the EU while remaining an integral part of the UK.”
link to archive.is
IMO we will be told to get back in our wee shortbread tin. Hee-Haw is what we can expect!
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Of course May will listen to every single thing that Nicola or anyone else has to say on the matter. She will then ignore it and carry on with what she’s doing. But she will listen.
O/T…
I’ve just posted this on the “Sewer” page and in ‘off-topic’…
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RE: lack of publicity and dependence on Facebook/Twitter.
A few weeks ago, I saw mention on Twitter about a Fife cavalcade for independence. I’ve seen ONE graphic about it –
link to imgur.com
I uploaded that to the WWW as it only appeared to be visible on Twitter and/or Facebook. I’ve seen no more info about it, only that assembly is at Fluthers car park in Cupar at 10am.
What’s the route?
Is it ending back in Cupar?
I read that the Yes Bikers had been invited. Do they know?
What’s the finishing time?
Are any stops en route planned?
I was pushing this event at the Holyrood rally yesterday but the only info I could offer was the start time and location.
hi brian,
soz 4 not replying sooner, my laptop is having a major identity crisis
yesnef car cavalcade(world tour of nef)
29th october
10am in fluthers car park cupar
Until now JK might of had the benefit of the doubt that she ws poorly advised. It is now clear she is a tasteless troll who has all the money in the world yet fights to prevent her fellow Scots accessing their inalienable human rights.
@JK
What about the Scot’s “Right to Development”, or how about allowing your ethics to rise above your believes?
Beliefs even.
What we are seeing is the impotent rage of the UK government at how they are going to be treated by the EU. Every time they are humiliated or thwarted the metaphorical cat getting the kicking will be Scotland unless we stop enabling them and get out. Textbook displacement.
I didn’t see the program, but the thing about Gordon Wilson is that hs is saying what some SNP members think – they said similar at the conference and post it around in places. But he also says what some NO voters and undecided think.
So he achieves an empathy with them, they can identify more with him.
There’s more than one way of skinning a
catonion.Gordon make a few silly comments, Craig jumps to his defence?
All very commendable I am sure.
But if you actually listened to Gordon questions have to be asked about his understanding of the debate, take oil prices, why mention that? That is a unionists misconception, at no time was the argument for independence based on oil. As for timing, did he not read the manifesto? Again he argues from the narrative of SNP bad, why what is is motive?
Perhaps he and another old SNP guy are not happy the rise of independence has continued unabated, I do wonder why? Well perhaps not!
@Andrew McLean
The thing is that if Wilson, and MacAskill and others do the party line thing, all they’re doing is preaching to the converted. The “hierarchy” can’t go much outside, so it’s left to previous SNP high heid yins to do their thing, because they know that the media will be only too glad to listen to them. And it gets the message out, keeps it being talked about.
Salmond does the same thing in a different way, and because he’s “I want the Ref NOW” kind of thing, that’s not what Sturgeon is saying, so he gets oxygen on the media who hope it’ll stir up dissent and division. Meanwhile it means Sturgeon & Co can keep going with their main path – pursuing all EU avenues until they’re shut in their face.
But nobody should doubt Wilson and MacAskill’s committment to Independence, same as they shouldn’t doubt Salmond’s! And in his own reprobate maverick way, Craig Murray does his own thing, and so do I as it happens.
I’m back from my trip to Google.fr and I’ve been reading Sunday Times articles on Newstand all FOC.
link to thetimes.co.uk
Yes campaign leader lambasted for Kremlin propaganda link
A few days before the vote, a crowd outside BBC Scotland’s Glasgow headquarters protested at the corporation’s coverage, with some calling for Nick Robinson to be sacked as the BBC’s political editor.
Jenkins told the Sputnik news service, the international wing of a Russian government controlled news agency: “I would hope and expect broadcasters learnt a lot from the 2014 referendum and that there would be a greater degree of self-awareness in how the campaign is reported. So … we can hope that will happen and pressure should be applied to make sure that broadcasters are reporting the [next Scottish independence] referendum fairly.”
“It’s obviously clear that the newspapers that served as essentially propaganda outlets for the “no” campaign last time, the Daily Express and the Daily Mail and a couple of others, they won’t change. They will be in full-on propaganda mode again and that’s just one of the things you have to factor in.” Sunday Times
What he says about ‘the Daily Express and the Daily Mail and a couple of others’is interesting. Basically they are what they are and they won’t change. Similarly the hardcore Britnats are what they are! Spending any time trying to convince any of them to change is a total waste of time.
I’m off to see what I can find out about the Sputnik news service! Anyone got any info?
With reference to Fife cavalcade
Fluthers Car Park 10am 29th Oct:-
Newburgh
Falkland
Kennoway
Leven
Elite
Pittenween
Anstruther
Frail
Kingsbarns
St.Andrews
Leuchers
Tayport
Finish Luthrie Hall.
Journey is about 80. miles and includes a stop in Anstruther for a fish supper. Journey could take around 4 Hrs taking into account speeds of 25 to 50mph. It is non political, purely a promo for Scotland,s Independence.
That’s all that I’ve heard so far. Hope this helps.
So, this attention-seeking, cold and vindictive mind, who intentionally joins a dirty play to help tarnish the credibility of fellow Scots only seeking the betterment of Scotland, and happily uses her name to deceivingly add credibility to the cause of an elite only concerned with maintaining their grip on Scotland, generates material for innocent and vulnerable young children to read?
The mind boggles.
I will not let mine ever again any near anything that this -in my opinion- dangerous and untrustworthy individual produces/produced.
Feel the UK lovin Jockland:
link to belltoons.co.uk
Feeling the love yet?
link to belltoons.co.uk
Update: The msm is commenting on the “new” direct line Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland will have through the JCM with Davis to assist in Brexit.
The last throw of the dice before MayHem.
Westminster is being dragged into realising that, unless it shifts, the devolved governments of the UK will pull away.
There is no way a hard Brexit will satisfy Nicola Sturgeon and the majority of MSPs at Holyrood.
The hardists’ comments on the msm imply the minorities must just shut up and accept what the majority, that is the Anglos do and say!
The UK union is slipping away. Even Kezia Dugsale is blaming the xenophobes dahn sath for Indyref2! Yoons on the run right enough!
John Edgar (24th Oct at 9.30) says:
“There is no way a hard Brexit will satisfy Nicola Sturgeon and the majority of MSPs at Holyrood”
Well, I bloody hope it won’t. I would be most disappointed if it does, actually. It would make me lose quite a bit of trust on them because to me that would be accepting that the people of Scotland is second class compared with those in the most populated country in the Union.
“The hardists’ comments on the msm imply the minorities must just shut up and accept what the majority, that is the Anglos do and say!”
The hardists and unionists can stick their comments where the sun doesn’t shine. The UK is a union of 4 countries. According to the Better Together, this is an ‘equal’ union. This means that the people of Scotland has as much right to decide the future of their country as the people of England has to decide theirs: that is equality.
Having England deciding Scotland’s future is not equality, fairness or democracy. It is oppression, repression and suppression by stealth.
You can only use the excuse of a majority and pretend to be democratic, equal and fair if you are talking about a unique country or several that have very similar political views and intention of vote. As it is in plain sight to all those who want to see this is not the case for Scotland and England at all, so attempting to bulldoze Scotland’s will by imposing England’s one instead is nor democratic, nor equal, nor fair. It is rather, in my view, an act of aggression.
Couldn’t help but notice the tweet that got me blocked isn’t in her little collage; to goading from a certain Mr Daisley I tweeted “I couldn’t care less where she’s from, I dislike her (jakey) because she’s a fucking bully.” Bam!! Instant block.
Funnily enough, Daisley then blocked me for calling bullshit on some of his more rabid claims.
What’s particularly sad about this is that it must taken a fair bit of time to create that tweet image – searching for tweets, taking screenshots, scaling and arranging them, adding in all the drop shadows to make it look professional.
And all to try to give the false impression that Scottish Nationalism is “blood and soil nationalism”.
Well, the simple fact is that the majority of people in Scotland vote for parties that say, unequivocally, “You are welcome here. It doesn’t matter where you were born.”
And JK can’t change that. It doesn’t matter how many hours she spends on Photoshop compiling her tweet dossiers.