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Posted on September 10, 2016 by

We’ve already highlighted the abominable state of the Daily Express this week, but an article in today’s edition is surely some sort of record-breaking low.


Hold onto your hats, folks, you won’t believe this one.


“Legislation to secure more uncertainty”. Wow.


We’re pretty sure that Nicola Sturgeon hasn’t “refused to accept the result of the democratic vote”. We’re reasonably certain that politics continued as normal and the SNP contested the 2015 Westminster election, with spectacular success.

But does anyone remember these “violent outbreaks”?


We’re having trouble recalling a single actual documented death threat. There were claims that there had been some, but to the best of our recollection nobody ever produced evidence of any. But “widespread outbreaks of violence”? If only we had some sort of official police statement about this.


Just one day before the vote, the chairman of the Scottish Police Federation publicly and unequivocally rubbished the idea that the campaign had been a violent one:


He went even further:


Oddly, the Express’s Siobhan McFadyen seems to have been reporting on an entirely different referendum to the one that Scotland’s police experienced.


She then hands over to Eben Wilson, the only known member of the self-styled “Taxpayer Scotland”, for a bewildering SNP BAD rant about how independence is all a fiendish scheme to rob the poor:


Which is followed by the article’s high point:


McFadyen has something of a history of aggressively false reporting. In May 2015 she published a piece in the Express claiming that SNP staff and others had received free Ryder Cup tickets.


But it turned out that McFadyen had mistaken several completely different people with the same or similar names.


On her errors being exposed, McFadyen’s response wasn’t to apologise, as innocently naive readers might imagine, but to go on the attack:


The article now appears on the Express website with the references to Pringle and Martin crudely hacked out (leaving a grammatically nonsensical sentence behind), but with no correction, acknowledgement or apology.


When McFadyen ran another article, this time about Labour MSP Anas Sarwar but illustrated with a picture of the SNP’s Humza Yousaf (presumably because they’re both brown men and that’s close enough for the readership of the Express), she was just as belligerent – rather than apologising for the crass mistake, she threatened to start investigating Yousaf’s expenses:


And her earlier track record is no better:


On being challenged about the outright lies in today’s article, McFadyen immediately started bleating about a “hate mob”:


When people laughed at that, she even managed to twist a complaint that the Express article’s appalling and inflammatory tone might incite violence into a personal threat:



(There is, it probably goes without saying, not a solitary scrap of evidence we can find anywhere that anyone has ever threatened to shoot her.)


She then claimed to have received over 300 hostile messages from over 200 people in the few minutes since people had found out about the article:

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But a Twitter search in fact reveals just 69 tweets including McFadyen’s ID today (at time of writing), from only a handful of different users.

McFadyen is clearly fishing for abuse in order to write another “MY VILE CYBERNAT HELL” piece. We hope nobody delivers. But while there certainly is a “hate mob” in Scottish politics, most of it seems to exist inside the offices of the Daily Express.

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  1. McHaggis69 says:

    Wow, I thought McTernan was just about as loathsome, pitiable and sad a liar you could find… You’ve proven me very wrong.

    At what point did the UK’s newspapers all become such trash filled, click-baiting piles of absolute baloney?

  2. Stoker says:

    I was following this on WOS Twitter Rev and i think it would be a good idea for one of our more accomplished wordsmiths to pen a serious complaint regarding the items you’ve covered in this article and the ‘Ready to Rumble’ article.

    My blood is beyond boiling!

  3. defo says:

    Nice use of “experts”.

    This charming lady seems to be beyond redemption. The real deal, 100% dingbat. It’s a job though.

    Beyond Mozza’s line. Without pause 😉

  4. Croompenstein says:

    Why is she tagging the police in ? zoomstation..

  5. Robert Urquhart says:

    Katie Hopkins has a rival in the odious shit stakes it seems.

  6. Brian McGrath says:

    I always thought your “Vile Cybernat Army” was mostly made up of flying monkeys and figments of Yoon imagination. Sure we hate all their BS but I’m not sure we are an army. Also none of us would shoot any of them. It’s expensive. You can however re use rope.

    The only violence through the referendum has been from the Britnat side. Same as in the EU referendum.

    I really am sick of shoddy reporting. You can’t call it journalism as that has integrity.

  7. HandandShrimp says:


    It is a racing certainty that her awful confections of partisan nonsense and, frankly, appalling attempts at political journalism will not win her a Pulizter Prize. Does Siobhan write this stuff because she knows that there is market for reactionary bilge in the Express? It may put bread on the table but it lacks a tad on the ethics and integrity front.

    On the plus side I can’t recall the last time I saw someone with the Express. Does anyone actually read it in Scotland? I think their horrible article regarding the children that survived Dunblane a few years ago pretty much put them beyond the pale. There really isn’t any place lower for them to go.

    Tonight I am off out the pub. We are having an Indyref reunion. The mood is buoyant and we are going to chew the fat and look forward to how we play the next one…no pitched battles expected…unless there are still some old firm fans discussing the finer points of toilet redecoration…a conversation we won’t be joining.

  8. Helpmaboab says:

    The closest I’ve yet come to an “outbreak of violence and misery” over the independence question was last New Year.

    I was the only Nat present. A trio of elderly, largely-housebound relatives raged for a full fifteen minutes about the idiocy of my opinions. Every ultra-unionist cliché was deployed. Too wee! Too poor! Too stupid! Cult! The oil’s running out! North Korea! Drinks were shoogled aggressively in my general direction.

    A copy of the Daily Mail sat, accusingly, on the shelf beneath the coffee table.

    Replace “Daily Mail” with “Daily Express” in this anecdote and the lesson remains the same: The chief target of London’s middle-brow tabloids is the aged and poorly-informed. It’s been quite a successful strategy so far…

  9. TYRAN says:

    She may have psychosis or other mental health problem.

  10. Marian says:

    Unionists must be absolutely quaking in their velvet slippers at the prospect of Indyref2 judging by the vitriol and bile being hurled at FM Nicola Sturgeon from the aptly named “Der Sturmer” these days.

  11. Artyhetty says:

    Desperate, childish jibberish from whoever she is. The hate filled, anti Nicola Sturgeon wording that this nasty, lying rag has printed lately is very dangerous indeed and they really should be taken to court over incitement to violence against an individual.

    Now, and during the independence referendum in 2014, these right wing rags want riots, hatred, violence, killings even, to happen in Scotland and they will even try to stoke up unrest, they must be livid that Scotland is a peaceful, modern, intelligent country, by and large.

    Just off out to get my National, some of it is a bit wishy washy, but as the unionists round here always hide it under their tory rags, I still buy it most days. Will look to see if any of these extremist rags like the Express have sold today, usually not many even round here, thankfully.

  12. Sassenach says:

    Rev Stu, have you ever considered a new career in DEMOLITION??

    You’ve certainly done a fine job on the Express and McFudging!

  13. CameronB Brodie says:

    @ Siobhan McFadyen
    Your disposition may be to shit on those whom you consider to be below you but you’re facing-up against a nation seeking to reclaim its authentic identity. Do you think that wise? Won’t you support the people of Scotland’s Right to Development?

    Pierre Bourdieu – Challenging Symbolic Violence and the Naturalisation of Power Relations

    For Bourdieu, ‘The only way to bring about organisational change that does not entail merely replacing one modality of domination with another is to address specifically and to undo the mechanisms of dehistoricisation and universalisation – “always and everywhere has it been this way” – whereby arbitrary workings of power are enabled to continue.’ (Emirbayer and Johnson, forthcoming; 47-8)

  14. Richardinho says:

    I live in London and so from time to time I read the London Evening Standard on the tube back from work (It’s now a free newspaper) in the hope of catching up with news but it is chocablock with features and opinion pieces basically praising London and biging it up as much as possible. ‘greatest city on earth..blah blah blah’.

    Fair enough, you might say, why shouldn’t the local press have a bit of pride in their community?

    I guess so; it’s just that I’m used to the media in Scotland constantly telling me how awful and poor our country is and lecturing to me about what a racist I am. Culture shock indeed.

  15. RogueCoder says:

    Well done to Wingers and Yessers for not rising to the bait printed by this odious self-promoting troll. Ignore her hate-filled lying rants – or better yet reply with love and kindness to really infuriate her! 🙂

    Looking forward to her “VILE CYBERNAT HATE MOB!” piece that contains absolutely no evidence of hate anywhere except in her bilious tweets.

  16. thingy says:

    Seems to be a bit of a fucking balloon. Either that or too fond of the sauce.

  17. Capella says:

    That person is in need of psychiatric help. Treat with caution or, better still, with complete ignoral.

  18. galamcennalath says:

    I’m a news journalist and editor with excellent contacts, digital expertise, PR, creative copy writing and social media skills.” …. clearly not the same person!

  19. heedtracker says:

    US election: Clinton calls half of Trump supporters ‘deplorables’

    Same here in Scotland, deplorable hacks, deplorable supporters.

  20. Dorothy Devine says:

    Wasn’t there a man called Leveson who led a very expensive enquiry ?

    Wasn’t there something about truth , honesty and care to be taken in what a “journalist ” could print?

    And didn’t they to a man and woman bleat about freedom of speech – theirs?

    And didn’t they say they policed themselves and anyone else would be infringing their FS?

    I rarely say ‘I hate ‘ -with the exception of sago and tapioca puddings – but I hate our media .

  21. Smallaxe says:

    Dear Siobhan:

    As far as I can make out it was not a threat,it was a promise,
    the shot was fired by the photographer who took that shot of
    YOU that accompanies your tweets.What funny hands you have

    Was it one of the EX-Press photographic geniuses who shot
    that strange looking picture of you?

    I must HAND it to you still tweeting,do you just hit the
    keyboard with your head.

    Your an inspiration to us all.

    Peace,Love and Funny Foties

  22. Peter Macbeastie says:

    My, she’s precious, isn’t she?

    She should try writing novels. Her ability to make shite up would be far more useful there than in the field of Express ‘journalism.’

    We all went through that campaign. We all recognise the campaign as described by the Scottish Police Federation.

    Oh, there were a couple of slightly mad Unionist types and assaults on Yes campaigners. There was that very amusing incident with the Scottish Resistance and Fundilymundily Murphy and Izzard dressed as Thatcher, and someone got hit by an egg.

    Maybe someone could point these heinous criminal acts out to the delightfully delusional Siobhan?

  23. Stoker says:

    Brian McGrath wrote:
    “I’m not sure we are an army….none of us would shoot any of them. It’s expensive. You can however re use rope.”

    I like your style Brian! Think i’ll ask her if she’s whinchin! 😉

  24. Madcatwummin says:

    Awwww wee yoonies-shaking in their pee filled boots. The more they howl at the moon, the more they perceive the threat of independence to be real. Dont give them anything to twist. Just tell this eedjit to go have a wee lie down and take whatever meds shes missed. Can you imagine the utter uproar that would ensue if a pro indy reporter wrote such utter bike and bs? No way would it go unchallenged. In fact, im sure nicola would have to personally apologise on their behalf. The sh*t only spews one way!……out of the mouths, pens and keyboards of yoons.

  25. CameronB Brodie says:

    “Drinks were shoogled aggressively in my general direction.”

    “The horror. The horror.” – Colonel Walter E. Kurtz

  26. Walter Scott says:

    Seldom does anything in the right wing press get to me, I would normally shrug, shake my head & tut tut. This however was quite shocking. I’ve never heard of this women until today & so glad to have missed her previous hatefests. It’s extremely dispiriting to read. Her almost casual incitement to disorder looks like bordering on illegality. My friends and family were split 60/40 in favour of Yes but it wasn’t uncivil at any time. Her laughable responses to moderate complaints would suggest this whole thing has been got up. Expect an Express article from her telling concerned pensioners of her living hell at the hands of merciless cybernats.
    The murder of Labour MP Jo Cox was apparently committed by a raging british nationalist, the kind of person who might find plenty to agree with in the Express.
    One can hope the police pay her a visit to warn her about her incendiary remarks. Will she also accuse the police of trolling her?

  27. Croompenstein says:

    Who is the online editor allowing such bullshit ? Daisley?

  28. Andrew Scott says:

    Incredible. Is it wrong to suggest she’s unhinged?

  29. RedStarTrout says:

    See also the campaign on Facebook – ‘Stop Funding Hate’, which is targeting the Express (and the Daily Mail) over its headlines about immigrants.
    The campaign is straightforward, identify the companies that pay for advertising in the Express and then threaten them with a boycott and a mass social media campaign if they don’t stop.
    Complaining to the paper or the journalist involved will only get you so far, but companies like Virgin, or Specsavers would rather pull their advertising than be directly linked to this kind of stuff. Without that advertising revenue how long could the Express keep spreading the hate?

  30. Richardinho says:

    Serious question: Is there any Yoon in the public eye who isn’t a total zoomer/troll?

  31. HandandShrimp says:

    Stu’s going to get a tweet from the Met saying “Stop winding up that deranged eedjit…we are sick to the back teeth of her half arsed complaints…just gonnae no…please”

  32. Dorothy Devine says:

    I see Henry ” a muddle not a fiddle ” Mc Leish is sticking his nose in – advising Ms Sturgeon there won’t be another referendum.

    He can take a hike as well.

  33. Andy-B says:

    McFadyen, suffering from Calmaesque fibbery.

    The Express, makes the Daily Star, seem a intelligent read.

  34. Chic McGregor says:

    The only incidents of violence or violent behaviour I can recall from indyref1 was an elderly male Yes supporter attacked by a woman in Edinburgh a young pregnant Yes supporter kicked by a speaker from a street platform, a road incident targeting Alex Salmond and of course the disgraceful George Square incident after the referendum. I can think of nothing the other way unless you count Murphy’s (remember him?) egging.

    On Death threats the only ones I remember were to Jim Sillar’s wife Margo MacDonald, and to Nicola Sturgeon which involved the police and to a Yes canvasser in Kirrie. Claims in the other direction e.g. Susan Calman were AFAIK unsubstantiated.

  35. K1 says:

    So Rimmer gets taken to court for kicking a Yes supporter at a polling station, Alex Salmond has an attempt made on his life after a debate during the Ref campaign by a driver trying to drive his car off the road. On the 19th September a royalist UJ waving mob arrive at George Square setting off flares and actively chasing and attacking yes supporters around Glasgow city centre, the police have to bring in reinforcements to deal with the hi heil sieging mob, one of the worst night’s the city has experienced in decades. There is even an attempt to set fire to the Herald building in the city centre that night.

    None of this is reported as coming from the No campaign’s supporters.


    Every single door stepping paper, has fabricated stories about decent people who supported Yes having a political view and expressing those views on social media as ‘cybernats’ or part of an ‘army or hate mob’. Every single lying headline has accused the Yes supporter’s as the instigators of ‘violence’ and not one of them have splashed a headline of the actual stories of Yes supporters being attacked and hurt during the campaign.

    It is abundantly clear that the language and actions of ‘reporter’s’ in Scotland are part of the problem in this regard. They have actively lied to the population about what is happening in our own country. They have instigated the ‘hate’ and are participating in denigrating our political discourse. They utilise the language of the gutter in bile soaked rhetoric to stir up the No supporters and we as a country are quite literally being led into very dangerous territory by these so called ‘journalist’s’.

    This is not ‘journalism’, this is inflammatory and vile propaganda with one aim and that is to divide Scotland.

    Let us not sink to ‘their’ level. They are called the ‘gutter press’ for a reason: They are the untreated sewage that is infusing the air with the stench of fear and hatred.

    We are winning. That’s becoming very clear. Peg’s in noses and let them rot.

  36. Grouse Beater says:

    ((Female hack strides to her desk)
    I am going to kick SNP ass today!
    ((Beings typing at computer, stops. Consults notebook)
    Let’s see now: cat snatching … nope. Buying real fur coats … nope! Employing alien … nope. Accepting a ton of freebie game tickets … yup! That’s the one.
    (Resumes typing on keyboard) An… expert … claimed … today … that …

  37. Sandi says:

    “I’m a news journalist and editor with excellent contacts, digital expertise, PR, creative copy writing and social media skills.” …. Not.

    She can’t even put together a coherent sentence. “There was violent outbreaks….” aaargh.
    “… threaten to shoot me again” – has someone already shot her?

  38. Malcolm McCandless says:

    “An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it.” – Jef Mallet (FRAZZ)

    Lesson there for all supposed journalists.

  39. Macart says:

    Dear God! The Express have completely lost the plot.

    Clearly no lesson has been learnt from the tragedy witnessed during the EU referendum. This is beyond reckless at this point.

    Whatever happens folks do NOT respond to this naked attempt to bait by the media. Leaving them to their delusional and diminishing world is comment enough.

  40. One_Scot says:

    The sooner Scotland becomes Independent and puts this sorry shameful abusive union and its hateful Yoons behind us the better.

  41. Marie Clark says:

    Good grief! what a vile person. I certainly don’t recognize the Scotland she is raving on about. What the hell is she smoking.

    She would appear to be trying to draw we Scots into violence, and the way the papers are going at Nicola Sturgeon is a disgrace. We must have them very very afraid, that can be the only explanation for this relentless onslaught from msm. I think this woman is the one who should be reported to the police for inciting violence. Crazy person.

    She is probably better ignored.

  42. carjamtic says:

    That moment you realise all those ‘outraged’ freedom of press,hordes,are apparently struck dumb.

    There was an editor from the express
    Who had a remarkable ass
    Not rounded and pink as you might think
    It was grey with long ears and ate grass


  43. Nana says:

    She’ll be really ‘hacked’ off if we just ignore her.

  44. Jules says:

    Is the, ahem, journalist perhaps that ‘history woman’ using a pseudonym..?? Or is the whole thing a parody? Can’t really be a serious piece in an established newspaper, no matter how awful the newspaper… Can it?

  45. Marcia says:

    So, it is true, there are more out than in.

  46. David Mills says:

    May be time to stop arguing with the monkey and take the matter up with the organ grinder with plummeting sales maybe they would be more interested it avoiding antagonising their remaining readership

  47. lumilumi says:

    And still some people see that as a proud defense of their country (UK) and “keeping things as they ought to be”, oblivious to the reality and the plight of the many.

    Scots aren’t exceptional or better than anybody else, but as a Nordic, I recognise a mentality towards the common weal, the building block of our societies.

    Yeah, we don’t have any very rich persons in my country. Bosses don’t earn 20x more than their average worker. Studies seem to indicate that societies with greatest income equality are the happiest and most stable and best posed for future challenges. Also, inclusive, comprehensive education which isn’t a Scottish problem. Only in England (and Wales?) politics gets into this nostalgic grammar school nonsense.

    We’re now entering an era of true global laissez-faire capitalism. If TTIP gets through, that’s goodbye to democracy, workers’ rights, everything gained in the past 100+ years. We’ll be ruled by the rich 1% and their financial interests.

    Gods, I’m not even fifty and I find myself hoping to die before the world becomes the dystopian thing it seems to be heading towards.

    Yeah, Scottish independence, I’d want that, but what’s it worth if everything goes to shit?

  48. shiregirl says:

    Wow. Just wow.

    She is up there on a par with Francis Barber.

    What utter nastiness she comes out with. I’d love to know why.

  49. Iain says:

    Wow – what kind of parallel universe does this woman inhabit?

  50. galamcennalath says:

    Anger, fear, aggression; the dark side of the Force are they.

  51. Tam Jardine says:

    When some groups preach hatred it ends in arrests. When the Express preaches hatred it is apparently freedom of expression.

    We should gather evidence and submit it to Police Scotland. Just because something is posted btl on the Express website does not mean it is beyond the law and as the Express for weeks now has been inciting violence, particularly against our First Minister it should be dealt with by the Police.

    I would be keen to hear Brian Docherty’s take on it as Siobhan MacFadyen’s drivel would suggest Brian Docherty was lying.

  52. cynicalHighlander says:

    She needs to climb back into that orifice of her origin, that is surrounded by a couple of cheeks, that some mythical being made an arse of.

  53. Smallaxe says:


    A very good post,well thought out,and well written.

    You and I have been through this a while ago
    Stop masquerading as Me. 🙂

    Peace,Love and Plagiarism

  54. Walter Scott says:

    maybe un diagnosed sociopath.

  55. Tam Jardine says:

    Re the video in Siobhan MacFadyen’s article, purporting to be pre indyref- Eddie Izzard is talking about asking people to vote labour- was that no early May 2015?

    I could be wrong of course but it looks like the general election the following year.

  56. Dr Jim says:

    I’ve got a water pistol

    I’ll hand it in to the police right away

  57. Alan Crerar says:

    Sad really. The “Scottish” edition sells just 16000k daily and dropping. The UK edition has lost 50k readers since last year. Opinion formers? Yup. Their ex-readers have formed the opinion that the Express in completely bonkers.

  58. galamcennalath says:

    Thinking over this, and the other article about the Express, and the opinion I had already formed about that rag.

    My two earlier comments are flippant. Why? Am I not angry, upset, resentful? Not really.

    Perhaps I have just reached the point of immunity from their poison. My feelings are, if anything sadness. What makes a human being stope to such a low level where they will push the Express’s UKIP agenda of hatred and venom?

    It’s like, spread hatred and loathing of everyone and everything – a perverse cultural revolution where everything which is good is sneered at, everyone is to be despised. And when the chaos has abated some horrendous right wing regime with bring order, of sorts.

    So why go along with it? Why assist it? The obvious answer is money. An income. Perhaps suspension of conscious and morality to pay the bills?

    Feelings of sadness and questions which I can’t answer.

    The optimist in me always says, Scotland can be better than this. It will all end soon. 🙂

  59. Anne Roberts says:

    I think she’s insane. Seriously doubt the mental stability of whoever writes such stuff. And she gets paid for it!!!

  60. thingy says:

    lumi @ 7:06

    “Yeah, Scottish independence, I’d want that, but what’s it worth if everything goes to shit?”

    It’s a bridgehead for the counter-offensive, lumi.

  61. Tam Jardine says:

    OK- so Siobhan wanted to provide proof that the indyref was filled with violence and intimidation but she couldn’t find anything and used footage from the General Election in 2015 instead:

    Acht well- what difference does it make. Anas Sarwar, Humza Yousef…. indyref, general election… you say tomato…

    What a bag of pish.

  62. Paul Stewart says:

    Like many, i certainly do not remember any outbreaks of violence. Correct me if i wrong, but none occurred. Also would like to know who these ‘experts’ are that claim the first minister is losing face and leaving the country in tatters. Fact is the first minister and her party are sitting on a big enough majority to be in power for at least the next ten years. It’s a funny old world.

  63. call me dave says:

    Brexit may lead to British travellers needing ‘visas to travel throughout Europe’

    But … but! They said we wouldn’t!

  64. Dr Jim says:

    There is a live news clip on the Express web page in which the newsreader and the police make clear the trouble was indeed caused by Unionists and a group of Rangers supporters called Vanguard Bears who were assaulting people with YES badges
    There were a couple of flares here and there but all in all just froth

    At the end of the clip it talks about the Glasgow police being used to the sectarian divide

  65. Smallaxe says:

    galamcennalath says: Perhaps I have just reached the point of immunity from their poison.

    Many of us have this same immunity,now we have to immunise
    the vulnerable.The feelings of sadness comes from the Scribes
    who write this drivel.They must be very unhappy people.Their
    hatred harms only themselves.

    Peace Always

  66. Valerie says:

    Just wtf????

    Seriously speechless, and disgusted at what this woman is exposing of herself.

  67. galamcennalath says:

    From a headline in Telegraph …

    “Irish company Green REIT offers value as post-Brexit recovery builds”

    …. eh!? How did that happen? When was Article 50? How did the negotiations go? When was Brexit? How did Indyref2 go? Are we independent? Have I been asleep for three years?

    No, the Telegraph just talking nonsense as usual. Phew.

  68. geeo says:

    Jeezo….just had a wee look at the Express FB page…!!

    They dont like the SNP much, do they…?

    Anyhoo….threw my tuppence in, then ran away..?

    WOW…Lots of HATE here against the DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED Scottish Government Leader..!

    Who ELECTED theresa may again, 300 tories ?

    Where is the outrage ?

    Please do tell, WHO can stop Scotland (not actually the SNP or NS btw) from having a perfectly legitimate referendum on independence?

    Not the rabid, hate filled, anger fuelled bigots, mysoginists and creeps on this site (and that is just the Daily Express staff, like Siobhan McFadyen for one, (Read her anti-Scottish/SNP/Democracy slaverings on twitter if you do not believe me)!!

    Not theresa may, she does not have the authority any more than Cameron had to refuse a referendum. (Do you actually think he CHOSE to ALLOW one)?

    Might want to research that one, peeps !?
    Anyhoo…since I sense the Blood Pressure is maybe rising a tad amongst the locals here, i shall leave you with this simple thought….

    Why are unionists so scared of a 2nd Scottish Independence referendum ?

    Unionists deride Scotland EVERY DAY in the most DISGUSTING terms.

    Unionists in Scotland HATE the country they live in, so why not fuck off out of Scotland, then those who actually care about our country can enjoy life without the hateful chains of unionism, as shown by rags like the express, and the disgusting morons who follow such media.

    Independence is coming,

    Get fucking used to it !

  69. Grouse Beater says:

    Lumilumi: “If TTIP gets through, that’s goodbye to democracy, workers’ rights, everything gained in the past 100+ years. We’ll be ruled by the rich 1%.”

    No truer word:

  70. Ken500 says:

    Who is she? McFayden. Never heard of her. Most people haven’t. A professional liar. A bully. On another planet. No wonder the ‘Press’ is going down the tubes. Hateful bile. They do not believe in democracy.

    Not Barnes. Out of a job. Now illegally telling lies to cover up for multimillionaire Tory/Unionists, 2nd rate rejects. Not declaring an interest and trying to milk the public purse from local gov contracts, The firm is a shambles. Enough is never enough. Vulnerable people are being sanctioned and starved. They have no shame. Westminster corrupt rule take £26 Billion from Scotland. Disgraceful.

    McLeish was saying he was voting YES in another Referendum and now he supposed to be saying not to have one. Has he been got at. Who gives a damn what he says.

  71. heedtracker says:

    “The horror. The horror.” – Colonel Walter E. Kurtz

    Less Heart of UK newsroom Darkness, more

  72. Ken500 says:

    Creative copy writing – Making it up. No social skills – Leaves a lot to be desired.

  73. ScotieDog says:

    Was watching the last hour of ghandi this afternoon. Haven’t seen it in years but must watch it all the way through one day.
    There was a scene where his advisors/friends are urging him to encourage a call to arms just before WW2 when the British will be vulnerable. He waves them off stating that India will be independent and by peaceful means. He intimates that the will of the British empire to rule over India is weakening anyway.

    I think we see that here. The London empire, UK corporatocracy is destroying itself and the economy in its ignorance. It’s partisan media, sensing its demise, are whipping themselves into a froth.

    Prior to the fall of the Roman Empire, the crowd pleasing violent games were escalated to keep the masses ignorant of the politics. The British empire celebrates the huge successes of its state funded Olympians, hoping in vein that it might reinstate some British patriotism.

    A decade ago I was voting for the lib dems. How times have changed. Things have accelerated at quite a pace, yet progress isn’t linear – frustrating as that may be.
    We aren’t far off but I can see people (including myself sometimes )compelled to lunge for the finish line. I’m also fairly sure that there are those high up In the YES movement, who like the great Mo Farah, who know exactly when the time is right to make the move.

    At the risk of attracting the wrath of those in here who have been campaigning for independence for longer than I’ve had a pulse, I think we need to be patient, almost zen like and watch the opposition make an absolute mess of things. They are most certainly obliging.

    For me, there doesn’t have to be a race to indyref 2 before brexit. The UK is shifting to the right; we will have another financial crisis, due to knowledge amongst the big banks that the UK tax payer will always step up to the plate. The UK govt have created a massive moral hazard, and our big banks are thus effectively part public companies knowing full well they will be the recipients of the biggest welfare bill in our history. Our young dont feel like they have a British identity.

    Even outwith the EU, a country like ours with its huge export capability and its own sovereign currency will be welcomed into trade agreements given our inclusive approach.

    A rush headlong in the short term to accept some of the EU’s neoliberal conventions might struggle to win support.

  74. lumilumi says:

    thingy says:
    10 September, 2016 at 8:12 pm

    lumi @ 7:06

    “Yeah, Scottish independence, I’d want that, but what’s it worth if everything goes to shit?”

    It’s a bridgehead for the counter-offensive, lumi.

    Haha! Thanks for giving me a laff and belief in the future, and humankind. But still. I still think the whole global word is going to the shits for anyone who isn’t in the 1%.

    I’m making pizza tonight so I’ll now go and pummel (knead) the dough, wishing it was Treesa Thatcher or any of her cronies.

    I hope my pizza won’t have a bad flavour if I think of her or her cabinet while pummeling the dough.

  75. Dcanmore says:

    displays the same sociopathic fuckwittery as Louise Mensch

  76. RedStarTrout says:

    Someone said the Express only sells 16,000 per day in Scotland. That’s not enough to fund it, it needs advertising money.
    Look at who has adverts in the paper or on the website – they are funding this stuff. Get onto their feedback pages and their facebook pages and let them know what you think of that.
    If their advertising with this paper is giving their company a bad image, they will cancel that advertising. The Express and the rest can ignore you, they can’t ignore Branson or Sky or Tesco.

  77. shug says:

    How long till Westminster arms orange lodgers and other unionist hard liners

  78. Giving Goose says:

    Ah Siobhan….
    I was out cycling today up by the river Orrin. It was beautiful.
    While taking in the beauty of the surroundings I had a philosophical moment.
    I spotted a sheep turd and wondered what kind of material the turd would write if it were a journalist for the Daily Express?
    Ha stupid me.I then realised that it was only a sheep turd and that a sheep turd would never stoop so low to be writing for the Daily Express.
    Beauly was sunny today!

  79. Phronesis says:

    The highly partisan bias is a deliberate attempt to re-inforce readers pre-existing attitudes and behaviours but for most reasonable thinkers it has the opposite effect. Constant use of metaphors of war, fighting vocabulary, reference to parasites and other fear filled negative images is very typical of the manipulative effect that the press is trying to achieve on its readers but tells us more about the writer’s lack of ethical and political significance.

    The FM is repeatedly portrayed as a pugilist constantly doing battle in a crusade to vanquish her foes. The YES supporters are an out of control mob that carry the virus of free-thinking that is causing the plague of independence. The campaign of fear and anxiety doesn’t reside in the YES movement (which is an actual thing and independent of the SNP), it resides in the minds of the editorial board and writers of these ludicrous headlines and disingenuous articles.

    UKOK continues this theme of a contained and fearful electorate and declares that the politically educated citizens of Scotland ‘talk to the hand’ in order to suppress co-production of knowledge about the social and economic viability of Scotland’s autonomy. This might be acceptable if the printing press and social media hadn’t been invented.

    To end their panic, fear and worry these authors should re-wire their anxious brains. It’s all to do with an area of the brain, the amygdala, that apparently controls the anxiety response. Once this is understood and neurological circuits are re-routed away from the amygdala, anxiety (a potent emotional response that occurs in the absence of a threat) is minimised and the affected individual can regain control, engage fully in normal life and will be able to write balanced and informative articles.

  80. Clootie says:

    The mood at every YES stall was positive and happy…until the angry unionist turned up.
    Every March was great fun until the SDL turned up.

    History re-written by another unionist…I was going to write journalist but why pretend because they do.

  81. Robert Peffers says:

    While the, (claimed), journalists who author such idiocy are indeed among the scum of the Earth those who believe their lies are much, much worse and quite obviously predisposed to hate. Which, of course, makes them very dangerous to others.

    Let’s just remember there were riots, violence and looting in several English towns and cities but none in Scotland.

  82. thingy says:

    @ lumi the pizza pugilist

    You Finns fought for what you have and now you (personally) seem to be turning into a chee… fish-eating surrender monkey. 😉

    Have you not spent enough time around swaggeringly arrogant Scots to know that a cause is never lost until it is won?

    Enjoy your scran. 🙂

  83. The Rough Bounds says:

    These outbursts by the Express and the Press in general aren’t recent phenomena. Back in 1967 I was in Hamilton among the crowd waiting for the result of the Hamilton by-election. Winifred Ewing was the SNP candidate.

    She won.

    The atmosphere was electric. In spite of the rain everyone was laughing and singing. Then Winnie came out onto the steps and we cheered to the rooftops.

    The next day the Press came out with the ridiculous story that the crowd had become agitated and had burst through the doors into the hall. As I was right at the front I can assure everyone that no such thing happened. We just sang a bit more then made our sodden way to the local hostelries. Never believe what you read in the Press. Never, ever, ever believe what you read in the Press.

  84. Jim Mitchell says:

    I used to think that sewer level was about as low as anyone could sink but unionist journos have proved me wrong many a time!

  85. call me dave says:

    Don’t leave rights at the mercy of Brexiteers

  86. heedtracker says:

    I think we see that here. The London empire, UK corporatocracy is destroying itself and the economy in its ignorance.

    But look at how they’ve spent so much money on London and the south east, they have literally run out of London and the south east to pump the money into, for massive and vital economic boosts like Heathrow runway 3.

    They are so blinkered and so determined to centralise so much money into the south east, they cannot now spread it out across England, let alone Scotland.

    Look at all the UKOK roasters howling at the moon over the new Forth Bridge. Its peanuts compared to a new London tube tunnel yet yoon culture goes mental up here at any attempt to develop Scotland.

    So a more holistic economic development policy UKOK wise ain’t going to happen. Although, I have heard assorted BBC Scotland gimps explain that the Clyde, Glasgow’s and Scotland’s industry simply disappeared when we joined the EU, as all trade now went to the EU and through the south east as its the nearest to the EU and if you swallow that load of BBC bullshit…

  87. thingy says:



  88. James Westland says:

    The Rough Bounds (good name BTW!)

    Thats a great tale of 1967. That was the year (I was 10 at the time but knew what it was all about) that I embraced the SNP cause.

    You are absolutely spot on – Never trust what you read in the press. Question everything, trust no-one , assume nothing.

    I used to think that the Daily Heil was the worst. I am coming round to the opinion that its the Express that is the absolute lowest of the low. It really is getting worse. Almost as if the “quality” of the “journalism” is divng faster than the sales.

  89. Grendel says:

    Bless you Reverend, for reading the Der Sturmer, er, sorry, the Daily Express, so that we don’t have to!

  90. McDuff says:

    This woman writes for one reason only and that is to provoke. Her intention is to create a hostile reaction from indy supporters which will give her and that newspaper ammunition to show that Yes voters are thugs.
    This is malicious and quite frankly sinister and is orchestrated behind the scenes by some very nasty persons unknown.
    Four years ago I would not have believed that the entire MNM could behave like an arm of a Stalinist dictatorship.
    It turns my stomach to think that Scotland is still attached to this corrupt Union.

  91. Jimbo says:

    The country became divided in scenes that have not been witnessed in living memory

    Like these disgraceful scenes of YES supporters letting loose in George Square, Glasgow in 2014:

  92. Robert Louis says:

    Make no mistake, this person knows EXACTLY what she is doing. It is to provoke a response.

    She is no less than a very obvious agent provocateur. In older times, such people were sent into campaign groups, to stir up a frenzy, to get people REALLY angry, to essentially incite violence. Now they use right wing propaganda sheets laughingly called ‘news’papers.

    This is what I believe the gutter rag called the ‘Daily Express’ is doing now. It is deliberate.

    We should however, keep tabs on what this lady says, as I am sure it will not be long until there would be sufficient evidence (though I am no lawyer) on a charge of incitement to hatred or violence, based upon what is being written.

    Play this one cool. Do not rise to the bait. The English unionists are feart, as they know they have lost the argument. These frankly odious articles and comments by this person, are signs of utter desperation by the British nationalist establshment.

    It all tells us we are winning. The union is over.

  93. Capella says:

    @ Call me Dave 9.51pm
    That’s an interesting opinion piece by Pat Rafferty of Unite. He gets the obligatory drubbing from the right wing NO brigade in the comments.

    But he says:
    “We have missed opportunities to bring our rail service back into public ownership. We have missed opportunities to bring our bus services back under public control.”

    Looks like he is unaware that the 1993 Railways Act expressly rules out a public body running the railways. Shouldn’t the leader of a major union know the legal position? He could Google it.

    “The Labour Party was implacably opposed to it (in 1993) and promised to renationalise the railways when they got back into office as and when resources allowed.”

    Looks like £400 billion of oil revenues haven’t allowed. When the licences came up for renewal under Tony Blair’s reign they could simply have not renewed them, at no cost.

  94. Norman R says:

    Do these Express yoons spend all their time gnashing their teeth and clenching their fists in impotent rage at the SNP and their manifest failure to undermine it. What a sorry bunch of stunted ,diminished , half-people. They`re more deserving of pity than contempt.

  95. scottieDog says:

    That’s the crux of it.
    They will herald London and the SE as the successful region with the lowest deficit.
    Conveniently they ignore the fact that this region is associated with the banking sector – a sector bailed out and funded without reservation by the uk govt as guarantor.

  96. heedtracker says:

    Land of Hope and Glory booming out of the telly right now. Its another union jack explosion but why they are waving EU flags is very odd. Its great to see outside BBC broadcasts from Hyde Park and Belfast, but Wales and Scotland?

  97. Robert Louis says:


    Remember, it’s Edinburgh in Europe tomorrow (Sunday 11th) at the Bruntsfield links, by the meadows, Edinburgh.

    Alyn Smith, MEP, Joanna Cherry MP, and Tommy shepherd MP, will be giving talks, and other things too including an open air ‘strip the willow’. From 12 onwards.

  98. chris kilby says:

    What’s the weather like in Narnia?


  99. Ken500 says:

    Foreign Press Association writer. Does that mean she’s English. Would she go to another country in a Referendum period and insult their majorly popular leaders and their majority voted politicians. France, Germany, Spain, Ireland, China or Brazil. She would be too scared. She would be chucked out or arrested. They would not let her publish the stuff.

    In England she would be restricted by a ‘D’ notice, arrested or put in Prison for breaking the Official Secrets Act. Snowden says the British repressive secret’s Laws recently implemented are worse than China or Russia. They are demented, like the British Press. One rule for them and another Law for everyone else. The condescending British Press. Breaking every Press Code with impunity. Not learning from the Coulson experience.

  100. ronnie anderson says:

    @ Robert Louis I,ll be at bruntsfield about 11am I,ll be at the Wings stall

  101. Capella says:

    @ Heedtracker – Re Last Night of the Proms. Apparently REMAIN supporters took along EU flags to counter the jingoistic Union Jack fest. Looks like we are not the only ones sick and tired of Britnat hubris.

  102. Ken500 says:

    BBC they don’t even show the Murray’s tennis matches with a much bigger potentially interested audience than the ‘Poms’. A raging Britfest for the Davis Cup.

  103. Ian Brotherhood says:

    Bit of a dilemma –

    Should this properly nasty piece of work be included in ‘The Great Scottish Fuck Off!’ or not?

    Don’t want to give her ‘fuel’, but then again, she just makes shit up anyway. Obviously.


  104. ronnie anderson says:

    @ Heedtracker rite behind the Conductor tap dancer of the balcony ah Saltire

  105. heedtracker says:

    ronnie anderson says:
    10 September, 2016 at 11:01 pm
    @ Heedtracker rite behind the Conductor tap dancer of the balcony ah Saltire

    On the balcony? Probably BBC Scotland cringers. BBC cameras got it in a shot a lot but it just looked daft. Its nice to a see another country’s upper classes having fun though. Then they all sang Jerusalem…

  106. heedtracker says:

    Capella says:
    10 September, 2016 at 10:51 pm
    @ Heedtracker – Re Last Night of the Proms. Apparently REMAIN supporters took along EU flags to counter the jingoistic Union Jack fest. Looks like we are not the only ones sick and tired of Britnat hubris.

    But what’s the point though? Saw old misery Ian Jack grinching about it all in The Graun today but the UK is out of the EU and there is no going back. All they can do now is fudge it and brainwash England’s massed ranks of xenophobes that they are out.

  107. Ghillie says:

    Siobhan McFadgen’s words are deplorable.

    (Will I have to apologise for the use of the D word?)

    That poor wee lassie has lost herself in a contorted world of nastyness that will be eating at her very soul.

    What a deplorable way to make a living.

  108. ronnie anderson says:

    @ Ian brotherhood Naw Ian deny her the oxygen , its ah badge of honour to the Churnalists to get mentioned on Wings

  109. HandandShrimp says:

    Make no mistake, this person knows EXACTLY what she is doing. It is to provoke a response.

    Aye Robert but the down side for her is that the Express is a joke that is read by fewer people than the Greenock Telegraph.

    We should treat their attempts with the contempt they deserve.

  110. bilptoe says:

    Really enjoying #widespreadoutbreakofviolence, hilarious!

    Don’t use twitter but could someone post Ian Murray’s sticker?

  111. annie says:

    In a fair and decent society this type of journalist would be given her jotters, sadly, this is the type of journalist the Express encourages.

  112. ScotsRenewables says:

    Off topic but addressed to anyone involved in the Hope Over Fear rally next Saturday – and also in the recent ‘All Under One Banner’ march a few weeks ago . . .

    What is the idea of starting these events at 11 0’clock so that no-one from outside the central belt can get there in time?

    Seems utterly crazy – what is wrong with a later start?

  113. Gordon says:

    She ‘writes’ for the express, nuff said.Not a real journalist,but from what I have read, a sadly deluded and disturbed individual.

  114. bilptoe says:


    Or co-ordinated rallies in all the major cities?

  115. annie says:

    @headtracker – Aye, but they finished with Burns Auld Lang Syne.

  116. ScottishPsyche says:

    Just caught up with this woman who has a substantial back catalogue of badly written provocative garbage.

    She says on Twitter to justify her demonising of yes voters:
    “and by the way the 600+ messages I’ve had tonight prove this is nonsense. no other collective behaves in this way”

    Well no other ‘collective’ is treated this way on a daily basis Ms McFadyen.

  117. heedtracker says:

    annie says:
    11 September, 2016 at 12:00 am
    @headtracker – Aye, but they finished with Burns Auld Lang Syne.

    American uni’s graduation ceremonies often end with Land of Hope and Glory. They call it the Pomp and Circumstance Graduation Walking March, meaning no lyrics.

  118. Ian Murray says:

    Instead of responding to the factually challenged Ms McFadyen who has clearly lost the plot reporting things that never happened perhaps we should write to her boss and co workers about our concern for her loss of veracity, a serious condition affecting many journo in varying degrees

  119. ScotsRenewables says:

    bilptoe says:
    10 September, 2016 at 11:59 pm


    Or co-ordinated rallies in all the major cities?

    Fine if they get the numbers. But people have seen one million Catalans marching – three or four thousand Scots, or 5 or 6% of a premier league football crowd, just isn’t going to impress anyone.

  120. Ian Brotherhood says:

    @ScotsRenewables –

    So far as I know, the Glasgow Green gathering next Sunday isn’t kicking-off until 2 p.m., for precisely the reasons you state.

    That’s just what I’ve heard, but please look out for more details, esp if you are interested in meeting the WOS crowd.


  121. call me dave says:

    Donors desert Scottish Labour as Kez is told: be stronger on the Union

  122. Meg merrilees says:

    Heedtracker @10.39 – Re Last Night of the Proms

    The EU flags at the Proms tonight were a pro-EU/anti-Brexit idea also backed by by the Musicians’ Union who’d advocated a Remain vote. 90% of the orchestra supported this gesture and the flags were being ” handed out with a smile” alongside information leaflets about the benefits of the EU for musicians.

    In protest, millionaire business man, Arron Banks, who led the LeaveEU campaign ahead of the referendum, paid £5,000 for the Union flags, which he hoped would be waved by patriotic Prommers at the event watched by millions around the world.

    A spokesman for the BBC said: “Flags are a traditional part of the Last Night of the Proms and audience members are not prevented from bringing them into the Hall.”

    Would they have been happy with 10,000 Saltires? – Hmmm!
    I had a look and it seemed to me that the mostly young prommers were predominantly waving EU flags – hee hee!

    PS: I always turn ‘the Express’ onto its back page when passing in my local supermarkets – obnoxious paper.

  123. Tam Jardine says:

    Dave McEwan Hill

    Hi Dave- that clip is from 2012. Not sure fans of the new rangers’ violence today has been recorded but fans of the 2 clubs, old and new really love tearing apart a toilet block.

    Just a tiny minority mind, and barely any of that sectarian singing (yawn)

  124. yesindyref2 says:

    She appears to be completely off her rocker.

  125. Jas says:

    I’m not really up on football but I wanted to ask anyone who knows, what do those five stars represent that Rangers wear above their badge?

  126. Alex Clark says:

    One of the funniest ones I read was in April 2014 in a report from the SNP spring conference in Aberdeen. Kevin McKenna in an article for the NewStatesman stated:

    “The press seats were firmly in the eye of the storm for the First Minister’s speech. At the end of it I stood up to look around at the cheering delegates and noticed that my newspaper colleagues and I were being treated to what could only be described as “aggressive clapping”. The perpetrators, in this instance a row of senior citizens…”

    I told him in the comments that he better stay away from war correspondence as a journalist if senior citizens clapping did worry him so much.

  127. Dr Jim says:

    @call me Dave

    So if Kezia wont defend the Union strongly enough wealthy donors wont give her any more money

    So does that mean that if she defends the Union more strongly she’s accepting cash for political influence

    So Kezias position and job is dependent on somebody elses money

    So Kezias whole life has been paid for by her MUM and DAD, The Taxpayer, and rich people

    So the whole Unionist dependency thing becomes clear now, she isn’t used to making decisions for herself and doesn’t know how to do it hence supporting every party leader Labour “elects” until the next one comes along

    I think there’s a word for that #bigwean

  128. Iain More says:

    Okay which one of you canutes swapped her medication pills?

  129. Jeannie says:

    I’ve just sent Siobhan McFadyen a message. This type of reporting incites people to violence, so surely there is legal redress. It’s like Berlin in 1934. They’ll be burning Andy Stewart albums next.

  130. shane fraser says:

    their is no nice words to help the unionists to read up on cognitive dissonance, other than wake the fuck up ya hypocrite !

  131. RogueCoder says:

    ronnie anderson says:
    I,ll be at bruntsfield about 11am I,ll be at the Wings stall

    Magic Ronnie!! We should be there early so we’ll get set up and you can pitch up right beside us!

  132. Smallaxe says:

    Is everybody in bed?


    Nobody told me there”d be days like this!John Lennon

    They paved paradise,and put up a parking lot!Melanie Safka

    Hey children,what’s that sound everybody knows what’s goin’
    down! Buffalo Springfield

    Peace,Love and Protest Songs

  133. Bill McDermott says:

    With a name like Siobhan McFadyen she is bound to have Ulster influences in her background. Keep your sectarian rubbish away from Scotland Siobhan and catch up with modern day Scotland.

  134. Smallaxe says:

    Dredging the Sewers:

    Smallaxe,leader off,of the Govan Stank lifters

    Peace,Love and Lifting Stanks

  135. Smallaxe says:

    Bill McDermott says: Keep your sectarian rubbish away from Scotland Siobhan and catch up with modern day Scotland.


    Peace,Love and Telling it like it is

  136. Smallaxe says:

    Is anyone out there?

    I wait………

  137. David says:

    @ Jas, at 12:57, asking about the 5 stars on Rangers shirts.

    Up to 2012, Rangers had won about 50 league championships. I think each star represents ten championships. Having 50 stars on a football shirt would just look silly. 🙂

    (Not a Rangers or Celtic fan, but seem to remember reading about the stars somewhere.)

  138. jdman says:

    It seems to me that the whole prospect of another referendum is really upsetting these poor wee dears , so I have decided, we wont be having another one! thas it, no more, we’re just stirring up division and hatred with our crazy insistence at holding a democratic plebiscite,
    so we should just forget it, and go with Thatchers point,


    We’re ALREADY independent folks, we just didnt know it!?

  139. frogesque says:

    @ Call Me Dave 12.20

    From that I take it it’s only Labour in Scotland (Branch Office) that’s too wee, too poor and too stupid to be independent.

  140. Smallaxe says:

    There’s no one here: Goody,good acoustics when it’s empty.
    I can practice my vocals.

    Im singing in the rain I’m singi……no s’not raining

    I talk to the trees but they don’t listen to me..mmmm
    Listen to me trees whatch out or they will make you into
    newspapers like the EX-Press or the graun,Hide..

    I have spent the night giving badgers new hairstyles lots of
    gallus wee badgers cutting about Dumfriesshire now.Lovely

    If I had a hammer I’d hammer in the morning.. might wake folk

    Their coming to take me away Ha Ha to the funny farm,where life is beautiful all the time and those nice young men in
    in their clean white coats…waaiit a minute I’ve just had a
    thought Siobhan,you could come with me,it will be great we can
    practice our singing together.

    That would be great if you came,the funny farm will even give
    us stage outfits,there a wee bit tight and the sleeves tie at
    the back but it would be a great look for our first gig!

    Practice Session,sing up Siobhan 1..2..1234 Paperback writer
    It’s the dirty story of a dirty man
    And his clinging wife doesn’t understand
    His girl is working for the Daily Mail
    It’s a steady job but she wants to be a paperback writer…

    Whit dae ye’ mean,you work for the EX-Press,its only a song
    Siobhan,we’ve goat poetic licence.Och please yersel’ have
    another wee dram o’ Largactil and then we’ll have a go at
    Weird Al Yankvic’s,Headline News,thats mibbie mer’ yer style.

    Peace,Love and Comic Singers

  141. Giving Goose says:

    Ah Siobhan….
    I was out cycling yesterday up by the river Orrin. It was beautiful.
    While taking in the beauty of the surroundings I had a philosophical moment.
    I spotted a sheep turd and wondered what kind of material the turd would write if it were a journalist for the Daily Express?
    Ha stupid me.I then realised that it was only a sheep turd and that a sheep turd would never stoop so low to be writing for the Daily Express.
    Beauly was sunny yesterday!

  142. Kennedy says:

    Smallaxe, some of us are still here.

  143. Smallaxe says:


    Now I asked if anybody was there, I hope yous wurny listnen
    To me and Siobhan practising.That would be rude.

    Peace Always

  144. Smallaxe says:

    Hi Giving Goose:

    Sunny here in Gretna as well,Oh what a beautiful morning Oh
    what a beautiful day,Iv’e got a wonderful feeling everythings
    Going our Way.

    Morning all. 🙂 Peace Always

  145. frogesque says:

    @ smallaxe

    Yes, indeed I am here. Whether I am all there is a different question.

    Whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous journalism or take armfulls of unionist garbage and by composting, end them.

    Errrr. . . what was the question again?

  146. Smallaxe says:

    Kennedy: I asked if anyone was there,I waited ten whole minutes,no answer was the loud reply. Im embarrassed noo.

    Peace Always

  147. Smallaxe says:


    Oh the Betrayal of it all.To sleep perhaps to Dream…..

    Peace Always

  148. Nigel says:

    Oh the depths the Unionists will sink to. The only violence during IndyRef1 I remember is George Square on the 19th September 2014.

    Now, strangely enough, I saw skin heads with Union flags, GERS football shirts, images of the Queen, Nazi salutes and ‘NO Thanks’ banners…

  149. Brian McHugh says:

    The reason no ‘newspapers’ are going to the wall yet in Scotland, is because they are being funded by the unionist establishment.

    Everyone should boycott the lot of them… no exceptions.

  150. Luigi says:

    Sigh. It’s all gone to plan thus far: The British way of dealing with colonial insurgencies usually follows the same pattern:

    1. Try to buy off the “rebel” leaders.
    2. Terrify the population of the occupied country.
    2. Stir up hatred and division across the land.
    3. Demonise the “rebels” with false accusations.
    4. Provoke the “rebels” into responding aggressively.
    5. Have your own undercover “rebel” agents act on their behalf.
    6. Threaten the “rebel” leaders.
    7. Start arresting the leaders on fake charges.
    8. Military clamp down.
    9. Civil war.
    10. Finally, after years of destruction and lost lives, accept reality and negotiate a deal. Partition off the best bits if you can. 🙁

  151. Luigi says:

    Sorry, I can’t count – just got up!


  152. Brian McHugh says:

    2. Terrify the population of the occupied country and stir up hatred and division across the land.

    Sorted 🙂

  153. Nana says:


    Tory Britain where a mum and toddler may have starved to death had no food or possessions in home

    Male escorts at centre of Keith Vaz sex scandal break silence on ‘liar’ MP

  154. Tam Jardine says:

    The Express is a strange forum- here is an example:

    “Give each area devomax with their own parliament with the influx of new Brexit powers each Government will have more than enough work to do and in the new act of union state ten economic criteria that must be met before the idea of Independence is discussed again but none of that will happen as WM doesn’t want to lose it’s supremacy despite giving the EU the majority of it’s sovereignty anyway”

    The paragraph above is an entire sentence which goes on so long that the poster changes his entire position half way through?

    It is fun to point our glaring inconsistencies and destroy ignorant perceptions. It seems like as long as you don’t post anything that they notice is mega critical of the Express anything goes. And boy, is that forum filled with low hanging fruit!

    A few quick questions- is attempting to change some people’s perceptions and open their eyes worth it at the cost of using the Express website? And can you use their website without adding to their clicks? Is it morally a good thing to do?

  155. TheItalianJob says:

    @Brian McHugh

    Spot on. As Robert Peffers keeps informing us the enemy of the people are the Brirish Establishment (this includes the labour, conservative and Lib Dem parties) and how they all close ranks as they did in the Scots Indy ref to keep “their” Scotland. Unfortunately the majority of Scots fell for this.

    Contrast this to the EU ref when all main establishment parties were split for either remain or leave.

    Scotland is the last bastion of their “Imperial power” and needs to be held onto at all costs even to the detriment overall to all its people. Hence the “establishment” media onslaught as seen by the express etal.

    How we make inroads into most of the people that voted no in our referendum that is our challenge going forward. Especially with the old “imperial empire” process of devide and rule being implemented on the Scottish people on daily basis.

  156. Smallaxe says:

    Morning Nana:

    I was very embarrassed this morning, Siobhan and I were practising our singing.Unknown to myself people were listening.I thought we had the place to ourselves.

    Anyway thank you for your links,as you know I have them with my coffee.Yum Yum

    Peace and Love NanaXX

  157. sinky says:

    Good Sunday Herald front page this morning on Labour’s doomsday scenario.

    Calling all Indy supporters in Edinburgh for a great free afternoon out at Bruntsfield links with music food speakers etc.

    Edinburgh in Europe event – Sunday 11th September – Bruntsfield Links – 12noon – 4.30pm

    This is a free event, celebrating Edinburgh’s role in Europe through its cultural ties, communities and outward-looking attitude. We aim to celebrate those communities who have come to Scotland and settled, finding a home and contributing so much to the life of the city and our fellow Scots. The event will also be looking to the future and where we will find ourselves in Europe.

    There will be several high-profile speakers, including Alyn Smith MEP, Tommy Sheppard MP, Joanna Cherry QC MP, and Minister for International Development and Europe, Dr Alasdair Allan MSP. There will also be live music and community acts, and entertainment from former Makar, Liz Lochhead. There will also be an opportunity to ‘Meet the Artist’ with a stall from renowned Indy artist Stewart Bremner.

    As well as food, beer and sales stalls, a language tent, Councillor’s Surgery, children’s activities and crafts, there will also be bands throughout the day, playing an eclectic Continental mix, and including an Open Air Dashing White Sergeant and Strip the Willow!

    All are welcome to this vibrant occasion!

  158. Nana says:

    Good morning Smallaxe xx

    I posted some more which have not appeared but here’s another for the moment

  159. Fred says:

    @ Giving Goose, the River Orrin brings back memories of a great coast to coast walk many years ago up Glen Orrin & on through to the west!

    The annual commemoration of the Martyrs of 1820 starts at 2 o clock today at the Sighthill cemetery gates in Springburn Road then up to the monument. Try & come folks.

  160. Smallaxe says:

    Tam Jardine:

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

    They have no morals Tam.Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of
    the law.A bad man said that,but in the MSMs case I think that applies to us.

    Peace Always

  161. Smallaxe says:


    I will treat that last link as dessert.Thank you

    Peace Always

  162. Capella says:

    @ Smallaxe
    “They paved paradise,and put up a parking lot!Melanie Safka “

    Joni Mitchell actually!

  163. Smallaxe says:

    Fred says:”The annual commemoration of the Martyrs of 1820 starts at 2 o clock today at the Sighthill cemetery gates in Springburn Road then up to the monument. Try & come folks.”

    I would love to have been able to attend.
    The perversion visited on these Brave workers was appalling,howeverI will be there in spirit,please give some
    admiring vibes on my behalf.Thank you in advance.

    Peace,Love and Murdered Weavers

  164. Smallaxe says:

    Capella says:Joni Mitchell actually!

    You are quite corright my friend,I thought I had got rid of
    my crush on Melanie years ago,seems not!
    Thank you for your correction. 🙂

    Peace Always

  165. Capella says:

    @ Nana – Thx for links. The Tom Gordon article in tbe Herald spells out the parlous state of Labour in the polls. They’ve given up hope of winning much support in May 2017. Looks like the Unioist vote is around 40% now.

    @ Smallaxe 🙂

  166. Dorothy Devine says:

    I found it interesting that there is to be an investigation of Mr Farage’s output during the referendum.

    Maybe time for Police Scotland to have a wee word with some ‘newspapers’ – or does someone have to make a formal complaint?

  167. Dorothy Devine says:

    Sorry , should have archived that – some clever person out there could do that???

  168. Grouse Beater says:


    I’m in Embra this week so will visit ‘Burnt’sfield Links. No one knows what I look like, but you might spot the car!

    To complete a fine day’s outing…
    Best film all year – a new classic:

  169. call me dave says:

    Thanks for these links: Lots of reading.

    Looks like Scottish labour still has to hit the bottom.

    I see Jim’s taken up fishing.

    Former Labour leader Jim Murphy meets top Tories

  170. Valerie says:

    @Dorothy Devine

    Here is the Nigel Farage piece archived

  171. ScottieDog says:

    “Tory Britain where a mum and toddler may have starved to death had no food or possessions in home”
    I honestly believe that if people here understood how money was created we would be independent by now.

  172. Proud Cybernat says:

    And they wonder why we call them ‘presstitutes’?

  173. Bill Hume says:

    From one of Nana’s links above….

    And former Scottish Labour treasurer Bob Thomson warned 2017 could seal Dugdale’s fate.

    “It wouldn’t be sensible to replace the [Scottish] leader now. The proof will be in the pudding in next May’s local elections. I don’t think she could survive two election defeats.”

    I read this as “The proof will be in the pounding”……possibly more appropriate.

  174. Tinto Chiel says:

    Thanks to the Rev for dredging through The Express’s crap so we don’t have to, as a constant reminder of what an appalling paper it is. It’s always been like this (remember the Cummings cartoons of Mick McGahey with his hammer-and-sickle scar and the paper’s atavistic xenophobia?) but it’s definitely getting worse as they realise they can’t control the proles much any more.

    I don’t agree no-one reads it. I see many being bought Where I Live but it’s always a pensioner, the tight-lipped totally miserable sort, who has been conditioned from birth to swallow tabloid pap and look up to her/his betters. The ones who tell you you’re brainwashed when you canvass them, or that it’s not Scotland’s oil, it belongs to the oil companies (yes, really) or just “I hate Sammin/Sturgeon”. They’re good at hating, these poor souls.

    The Express won’t have any readers in ten years because all the wee chuckie birdies will have fallen off the perch. Memo to Express: no young people buy your bilge so it’s cheeriebythenoo for you.

    Thanks for the Jaikie R link, Nana. Looks like she’s going for the full Establishment row of medals. Since she’s a mediocre and derivative children’s writer I can’t see why anyone would really care what she thinks but she has the MSM at her back going all orgasmatronic on her.

    And so it goes on until the Brexit bombshell goes off and with one bound we are free.

  175. gordoz says:

    A rabid frothing divisive journalist dwelling at the heart of the Scottish press core … who knew ??

    I’m astonished and feel let let down, when did this all start ??

    Better check the BBC to see whats going on .. 🙂

  176. Fireproofjim says:

    A lovely day in Edinburgh for the “Edinburgh in Europe” rally at Bruntsfield Links.
    For strangers to the area, the oldest pub in Edinburgh, the Golf Tavern, is on the edge of the Links. Not that any Wingers will be bothering about that.
    See you!

  177. Brian Powell says:


    A similar petition should be raised for the Express and Daily Mail.

  178. heedtracker says:

    This is quite funny. Usual nothing Scotland but SNP bad Sunday UKOK news but last time Paul Mason was on telly he was ragin at no more refs for Scotland, in that he says he wants one, but its cancelled, and that’s SNP bad too. So he wants lefty alliances now, but not with you know who and you know why.

    Try to form a “one off tactical agreement,” vote Libdem, Lab, Green. Viewers in Scotland dont exist.

  179. Stoker says:



  180. Chic McGregor says:

    I’m convinced many journalists have either Compulsive or Pathological Lying Disorder.

    The difference between Compulsive and Pathological is given here:

    “What is Compulsive Lying Disorder?

    Compulsive lying often develops when individuals are very young and heightens with age when more opportunities for fabrication are presented. Gradually throughout childhood and adolescence into adulthood, lying becomes more and more frequent, eliciting a sense of control in the affected individuals. They experience a sense of power over situations when they lie and become uneasy and uncomfortable when forced to tell the truth. Soon enough, dishonesty becomes habit, which then leads to classification in the compulsive lying disorder category.

    Compulsive Lying Disorder is frequently confused with pathological lying, but it’s important to recognize the difference between the two. Compulsive liars engage in dishonesty because it is their automatic response to questions and situations, while pathological liars do so in order to manipulate other people and achieve their goals with complete disregard for the feelings of others. However, both compulsive and pathological lying is associated with antisocial personality disorder, more commonly known as “psychopathic behavior”.”

    In journalism the main distinction between the two is that whereas a Pathological liar will follow the money or seek to manipulate opinion for some other rational, if unethical, reason by lying, the CLD sufferer will seek to change what they believe public opinion is just for the power rush they seek.

    One of the more obvious areas of journalism where this can be spotted is in that of the critic, where for some critics you know that if something is demonstrably popular e.g. ‘Mrs Brown’s Boys’ say, they will declare they hate it and tear it to pieces.

  181. Cuilean says:

    The Express’s very own ‘Rita Skeeter’!

    Note that her most serious accusation (that someone has, allegedly, threatened to shoot her) is NOT copied by her to the police – the people you would contact immediately – if true!

    I assume Rita Skeeter wants to avoid being charged with ‘wasting police time,’ if she did so.

    In the wake of the MP shot dead it really is the most appallingly evil behaviour.

    The Yoon press dream of, and long for, a Scottish fatality or violence to ‘ulsterize’ Scottish politics.

    The only fatality, in Scotland, is themselves.

  182. Papadox says:

    On murnaham just now, some ignorant woman telling all “Ruth the moth is the most popular politician in Scotland”. honest mcteirnan had a big smirk, the woman didn’t know any better, that’s the caliber of Engerlish broadcasting. Or maybe their education system.

  183. Scott says:

    Tory MSP accused of not declaring spending

    A MULTI-MILLIONAIRE Tory MSP is facing allegations he failed to declare using his own office for his Holyrood campaign.

    I have searched the BBC for this story but no joy had it been any SNP MSP they would have been all over it is it worth putting in a complaint,probaly not.

  184. Ken500 says:

    Foreign journalists who receive remuneration from tax evading millionaires, who buy up the political system in order to destroy the world economy,. They support sanctioning and starving the vulnerable. Illegal wars, tax evasion and banking fraud. Greedy low lives. Enough is never enough.

    Foreign ‘journalists’ who write lies for multimillionaires tax evaders for expenses, are not only despicable liars but two faced hypocrites. Desmond gave £1,300,000 plus to Farague to try and influence the political system for favours and thwart Democracy, and destroy the world economy. To write vile bile about a majority trying to gain their political rights and threaten majority elected politicians is just beyond the pale. Illegal.

    Desmond’s unelected associates gave £millions to illegally take £Billions from Scotland. Non elected Unionists multimillionaires buy up politician representation. Illegally, do not declare interests to gain local/ gov contracts and plunder the public purse.

    The minority and privileges few are trying to take the majority out of the EU against their wishes, supported by the corrupt ‘Press’. No wonder the ‘Press’ are going down the tubes and losing their jobs. Just a bunch of self seeking hypocrites who will sell themselves to the highest bidder and break the journalism code. Take a look at their own remuneration and expenses. Most of their paymasters owners are criminals. They should be in jail along side them, for aiding and abetting. for trying to prevert the political system. The Tories committed electoral fraud in 29 seats. No report of that or Chilcot etc in the perverted right wing Press. Trying to illegally buy up political system for favours. Rank hypocrisy. Cash for honours etc to illegally fund Unionist political Parties.

  185. Phydaux says:

    Yet another venomous snake in the grass, hissing and spitting an endless diatribe of hatred, racism, misogyny,, abuse and menacing threats.They can’t fix what was broken by them during Indyref1 …can’t use the same lies, threats, blackmail and mumbo jumbo Vow guff.What you see is what you get and I agree with others that we rise above it… sticks and stones etc.

    The real enemy are the snakes in suits pulling the strings behind the scenes… the self appointed elite and pathological deviants who operate behind a mask, by deception and other psychological tricks which they have been practising with great cunning for centuries.

    It makes me increasingly grateful to our F.M. and her colleagues and Stuart who, thick-skinned as they may be, are nonetheless faced with a daily onslaught of hostile and aggressive attack and personal abuse as part of their job.FFS.I salute them and their continued commitment to Independence.

    I salute Stuart for his courage and formidable skills and expertise in helping to open our hearts and minds and self belief.The tide is turning and is now, I believe, an unstoppable force, like a tsunami.

  186. Proud Cybernat says:

    New entry in this week’s chart:

    “Hate Train” by the U-Jays featuring the Scottish Daily Express and the master-mixers.

  187. Ken500 says:

    Ruth Davidson’s Party could not get a seat in Scotland under the Westminster FPTP system. They leave out that small detail. The 2nd rate rejects reguritate to annoy the electorate. Having to hear their incessant annoying ramblings and lies of chuntering Unionist politicians and their vile bile lying supporters. Press lies.

    The Tories in Westminster got 27% of the vote and committed electoral fraud in 29 seats. A majority of 12. Davidson is trying to cover up Tory corruption and sleeze and breaking the Law. Deja vu. They should be charged and put in jail. Ruth Davidson gained 2% on a biased electoral system, where the electorate were encourage to void their vote. More Unionist political corruption.

  188. galamcennalath says:

    OT Saw this on WoS Twitter. People perceptions of where politicians sit of left-right spectrum.

    Most people seem to understand.

    3% think Cameron is far left, 4% soft left.
    7% think Farage is far left, 5% soft left.
    5% think Corbyn is far right, 3% soft right.

    My conclusion is that around 10% of those questioned don’t have a fcking clue about politics. Very scary.

  189. Ken500 says:

    Thanks to all the campaigners in Edinburgh and Glasgow representing the millions who can’t be there because of demographics. Thanks a million. Take the good wishes and support along. It brings a tear to the aye. Makes Scotland proud and confident by the Campaign. Thanks forever. Might see it on RT.

    Vote SNP/SNP May 2017. Do not dilute the Vote.

  190. Stoker says:

    Apparently Silobarn McFudyen is going to phone the polis!

    Hing aff hen an ah’ll git thim furr ye! Thir ye go:

    Don’t Stand So Close To Me (Yer Breaths Boggin)

  191. heedtracker says:

    Back on the scene like a sex machine.

    FORMER Scottish Labour leader Jim Murphy has been having cosy political chats with senior members of the Conservative government, the Sunday Herald can reveal.

    The arch-Blairite has held meetings with Scottish Secretary David Mundell and his Scotland Office deputy, Lord Andrew Dunlop.
    Murphy said he “wanted to catch up privately about a couple of political issues” with the Tories.

  192. heedtracker says:

    Uh oh. Its all over now for Scotland.

    Siobhan McFadyen ?@siobhanyc 2h2 hours ago
    JK Rowling responds to ‘Death-Eatery’ Twitter attacks

  193. Hamish100 says:

    The Andrew Marr show this morning British Education is in crisis ie England. Our worthwhile luvie hasbeens reviewing the papers make no reference bot Scottish education or for that matter local differences in NI and Wales. But they aren’t so insular as they talk about German education. Then move onto brexit and what England wants then NHS in crisis.

    Marr’s programme should be moved to an English regional channel.

  194. heedtracker says:

    This is great too. If yoon culture today tells us anything, its that you really cant keep the shameless down. From Express style Glenda’s, to

    A PSYCHIC medium who claims to have communicated with the spirit of John F Kennedy and who quit politics in an expenses scandal has been chosen by Labour for next year’s crucial local elections.

  195. Liz Rannoch says:

    Decided to have a wee dive into the sewers masel this am.
    Found this:

    So what’s happening in Dundee? Now, I don’t do twitter or facebook but it’s the next picture down fae ‘that’ flag.

    I went from there to this:

    Is this right? or am I just being negative this am?

    I hope this comes out ok – it’s about us not being legally able to call another ref

  196. Capella says:

    From Rev’s twitter – the Labour Party have purged John Macdonald from the Party. He’s the great nephew of Clem Atlee. I believe the Labour Party ordered Atlee to stand down before the post was election as he was too left wing and a liability. Won a landslide. No change there then.

  197. galamcennalath says:

    Hamish100 says:

    “Marr’s programme should be moved to an English regional channel.”

    Like so much UK wide programming it can be totally dominated by English domestic issues. Then, it is completely irrelevant to anyone outside England. When Question Time comes from deepest England, and there is no SNP representation, it too discusses irrevant issues. The main news bulletins are no better. Northern Ireland must feel the same way.

    The real solution is of course Indy. However, it would help meantime if English output, about England, was kept to England. We have BBC Scotland, the concept of BBC England just hasn’t been considered.

    Truth is, it’s all part of the wider England = UK perception.

  198. Vambomarbeleye says:

    Talking to a old army pal. He’s living in Germany, now 60 years old and always said that he would retire to Maidstone in Kent. This being where he was originally from.
    I asked if still planed to do that as he had just come back from visiting his mother in Maidstone.
    Well surprise! He said he now had seriousness doubts about going back. On enquiring why. He said he had been shocked by the open rascisim on display. This was a England he wanted no part of. At a cafe. He passed the time of day with another patron. Said the coffees not bad. Other guy. Yea but their all poles. The man was of a age where he should have known better. How many poles took part and died in the Battle of Britain.
    And did those feet. Not fucking likely. Bloody foreigner fuck back off to Jerusalem.

  199. heedtracker says:

    Its nice to relive the classics, as queen of the yoons campaigned for the UK 2014. Fear was the key. Next ref, how scary will teamGB’s billionaires get?

    Rowling: I’ll be ‘just fine’, but if it all goes badly wrong, other people will pay

    “Lottery winners and Brian Souter can afford – literally – to dabble [in] independence as an interesting experiment,” she wrote. “If we have a bad oil year, nobody’s going to tide us over any more. I

  200. Been reading the dodgy Sunday Herald again. Trying to work out where it is. I think I’ve cracked it. It supports Independence but not the SNP. Impossible to reconcile those positions, of course, but our very clever hitch hikers and band wagon jumpers manage to do so to themselves. These are the guys who managed just under 1% at the election but probably cost SNP list seats and a majority.

    The editor kinda gives the game away in his editorial today . There are still people who shout we need to be more left wing and more radical to win independence when it is a clear as the wart on my nose that it is the non left and rightwing vote that defeats us that we need to make inroads into.

    Kezia and Ruth are interesting topics at the moment . The front page of the Sunday Herald is very telling. It is in fact the assassination of Kezia Dugdale. To order. This is not Tom Gordon assisting the SNP. This is unionist hack Gordon doing the establishments bidding. Kezia is finally being put down. She was abandoned well over a year ago by the establishment as the canvas for Ruth got under way. But Kezia is now an embarrassment for the union and has to go.

    Gordon’s only other contribution to the paper is an article attacking Andrew Wilson which is notable only in its absolute lack of any substance.

    Ruth is a more interesting examination. I cannot remember any statement made or position taken of any political consequence from Ruth but she continues to enjoy a ridiculously generous press. She is leading “resurgent “ Tory party whose vote has actually dropped at recent council by elections and whose rating in opinions polls has slipped slightly to the giddy heights of 20%.

    The insult to the intelligence of the Scottish electorate is actually becoming breathtaking.

    There are significant movements going on. It is entirely possible that the independence camp has lost some of its more impressionable support interim. This happens all the time. But any loss is being more than compensated by an infusion of the seriously well informed into the movement.

    But with Ruth we are in the early stages of the sort of deification that attended the elevation of Joann Lamont and more ridiculously Jim Murphy. It goes like this. Unbridled access to press and media coverage. Smiley photos. Inane political comment treated with reverence. Then pushed a bit harder when it doesn’t seem to be working. No evident reaction from the public. Pushed a bit again. Somebody at the back of the class laughs. The facade cracks and the edifice crumbles. Rapid execution and removal. And here we go again with some other figure that suddenly becomes the best thing for Labour/Tory since sliced bread. Ruth’s on borrowed time – as is the union. I’ll give her 6 months.

  201. Breeks says:

    Anybody up for crowd funding some offerings to the Pagan god of mischief?

    She’s the god (no, it wasnt Theresa May), who made sure Boris Johnston became Foreign Secretary after Brexit, and she also saw Guy Verhoftstandt appointed the EU’s Brexit negotiator.

    Be quite a chuckle to have the brain dead numbskulls who let themselves be incited to violence to be outnumbered in the crime statistics by the brain dead journalist hacks who incited them.

  202. heedtracker says:

    There are significant movements going on. It is entirely possible that the independence camp has lost some of its more impressionable support interim.”

    Why is it entirely possible and who are the more impressionable support?

    You perhaps Dave:D

  203. Grouse Beater says:

    Dave McEwan Hill: “It supports independence but not the SNP.”

    Good insight.

    The editorial line is ‘kinda’ supportive of independence, a that pillar entirely belonging to the editor in charge. If 75% of us switch back to the union SH will do the same.

  204. HandandShrimp says:

    The only thing people need to remeber about Davidson is that despite how modern and reasonable her views may seem on social issues, like same sex marriage, her economic position is reactionary right wing extremism and the poor and disadvantaged would, as they are under the Tories in England, take a kicking. She would privatise health, charge tuition fees, slash services and give tax breaks to the rich.

    She is a Tory….we must ensure the electorate do not lose sight of that as she hides the repulsive nature of her policies under a Union Jack as defender of the Union.

    In the words of Basil Fawlty “cuddle that and you will never play the guitar again”.

  205. carjamtic says:

    Safety First Always

    On arrival on any oil rig in the north sea,the first thing that happens,is the safety discussion,the site manager (OIM),will run through the ongoing activities and they then,deliver one message,that is,above all else….safety.

    Do your job,do it safely,you arrive on ‘here’ in good health,we would like to keep it that way and we want to deliver you back to your family,in the same condition as you arrived,remember,safety first,at all times.

    These are reassuring words,in a very harsh,sometimes brutal,unforgiving workplace and they are effective,anyone found putting themselves or anyone else,for that matter,in any danger,is immediately removed from their worksite and will find themselves travelling,not on a slow boat to China,but rather quickly,on a fast boat or chopper,back from whence they came,most likely,never to return.

    I see no such safety measures in place,in (certain?)newspapers,a slapdash approach to ‘news stories’ seems to be the ‘given’ and then,on receiving negative feedback,it seems the ‘hack victim’ card is played….look,look at me,it’s an injustice (rinse and repeat).

    As an industry,you have to wonder….who,would endanger their own reputation,their fellow workers or anyone else’s for that matter,by not doing their job properly,checking the facts,writing the truth ?.

    In any other industry,they would ‘run off’,co-workers would complain,management would insist on maintaining the highest standards,in most of today’s working environments,there is no room for the slap dash approach,(whether it is dredging in the sewers,the building of walls or the penning of a news article) we all know,there are good journalist out there,but declining sales are putting even their jobs in danger.

    Every job has it’s risks,that’s why control measures (not the grammar police,but editors) are put in place,as sometimes,people even need to be protected from themselves,(medical’s anyone ?) crucially,people need to take personal responsibility for the own actions….’hacks’ welcome to the modern,fast moving real world,buckle up tight and remember,look out for each other and to look out for us,(treat your readers as family members,not just,members).

    It’s a Jungle Out There,be Careful……Live Long and Prosper….Nanu Nanu.

  206. liz says:

    The woman is having a total meltdown on twitter calling in all the troops inc JKR.

    I think the reason is NO-ONE took the bait she was dangling

  207. heedtracker at 12.31

    Can you actually read?
    As I’ve been at this since 1959 I don’t think I’m particularly impressionable.

  208. Xaracen says:

    JK and her Death-Tweeters, what is she like, eh?

  209. heedtracker says:

    Dave McEwan Hill says:
    11 September, 2016 at 12:43 pm
    heedtracker at 12.31

    Can you actually read?
    As I’ve been at this since 1959 I don’t think I’m particularly impressionable.

    Its an interesting point to slide in that ad for the Herald on Sunday and I didn’t say you are particularly impressionable.

    I asked you the who and why, you think it’s entirely possible the “independence camp” has lost support and why you think its the “more impressionable support?”

    If its just a throw away line based on your personal observation…

  210. HandandShrimp says:

    The woman is having a total meltdown on twitter calling in all the troops inc JKR.

    I am kind of glad I have never bothered with Twitter. It is painful watching someone having a meltdown and Twitter seems to have more than most places.

    Certainly her writing in the pieces Stu has posted indicates a few bricks short of a full hod so I suppose it is not altogether surprising. My only qualm is that it is a bit like shooting fish in a barrel.

    Given Siobhan’s reactionary politics I am not convinced that JK would be a natural allay but I suppose any port in a storm.

  211. Capella says:

    Re Sunday Herald – it’s hard to see how Kezia Dugdale can survive much longer if the front page is any indication:

    Not that I’m suggesting anyone go out and buy it. But the state of the polls may well be fuelling the current hysteria on twitter and MSM.

  212. Dr Jim says:

    Do you agree Scotland should be an Independent Country

    I kinda don’t believe that’ll be the question on the next ballot paper
    The FM and the SNP are pretty smart cookies and have got the Unionists screeching the word !*Independence*! on a moment to moment basis until everybody is so sick of the sound of it at the last minute they’ll ask something different, I don’t know what that might be but there might be some different choices available now

    What sounds Snappy!

  213. Al Dossary says:

    On my way back from Oldenberg, Germany.

    The love was strong all weekend from the various nationalities present at the event. German, Dutch, French, Danish and Belgian all were rather flummoxed as to why our English neighbours actually voted for Brexit.

    The difference in attitudes also is brilliant. Weder Bremen at home today, every other supporter has a beer in hand walking to the game, but not a hit of the drunken,loutish behaviour that is so common with our major Scottish teams.

  214. Dave McEwan Hill says:

    heedtracker at 12.23

    No. Based on a number of recent polls which found that to be the case.
    Can I repeat did you actually read what I said about the Sunday Herald?
    End of conversation.

  215. heedtracker says:

    Dave McEwan Hill says:
    11 September, 2016 at 1:29 pm
    heedtracker at 12.23

    No. Based on a number of recent polls which found that to be the case.
    Can I repeat did you actually read what I said about the Sunday Herald?
    End of conversation

    Maybe its because its not that clear in your comment who is actually narrating what, as you seem to be explaining what the Herald’s on about and what you think. So you lost me here

    “The insult to the intelligence of the Scottish electorate is actually becoming breathtaking.

    There are significant movements going on. It is entirely possible that the independence camp has lost some of its more impressionable support interim. This happens all the time. But any loss is being more than compensated by an infusion of the seriously well informed into the movement.”

    Is that your opinion or is it the press, is all I was asking. And no, I cant read:D

  216. Ricey says:

    I’ve never heard of Siobhan MacFadyen. I’m not normally that lucky.

  217. Gillian Sproule says:

    The wummin is clearly unhinged and in need of some professional assistance! I’d offer to help but my hate-infused, vile & violent cybernattery keeps me way too busy..

    She’ll just have to rot away in her own bile.. all together now.. Awwwww!

  218. SCOTSANGEL1 says:

    Wow this woman is off balance, yet claiming all sorts and telling all sorts of lies,just read all this and more…shaking my head

  219. Haggishunter says:

    The problem here is not Miss MacFadyen, she is merely a Sycophant for the Establishment / Brit Government that is so corrupt that it can run the media for its own agenda.

    Other countries, like Germany for example, tend to have a more wise population, because their government’s are not allowed to use the media and the media is not allowed to fabricate lies.

    Levison was ignored.

  220. Spitoon says:

    It appears to me that Ms McFudgen has already declared support for her own Independence and now floats, [but, perhaps, not alone], adrift of Sense, Humility, Identity, Truth, Social Acceptability, Respect and Credibility.(ironically SHITSARC)
    It would be easier to be Sectioned under the Mental Health Act than to achieve the latter goal by spouting incredible fantasies, in angst, about a nation, even for the cause of job retention?
    A medical is overdue.

  221. Mark says:

    Trying to engage with the type of drivel-scribblers that infest the Express and Mail (or to point out their lies) is always counter-productive, in the eyes of their blind faithful.
    Perhaps the old trick of sharing screencaps of their tweets without courting an ensuing twit-fest is the answer? Let them find out they’ve been found out well after everyone has been informed.
    Just a suggestion. Quieting the class clown needs a concerted effort, which is probably as impractical as it is unlikely, but it’s nice to think of a world free of the bilious scrawlings of the rationally-rationed.

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