Wings Over Scotland

How can they still be teetering on bankruptcy with all the short money?

Nicola’s a hoormeister isn’t she? Cash for access… She’s sold the family silver.

She’s flogged the jerseys…

Crowds can be fickle – probably best avoided.
The Americans hire their crowds but I suppose that’s not an option here.

does the SNP have a pension fund for itse employees?

– that usually gets looted at some point.

Humza and hingers oan are currently cosying up to that millionaire global climate alleged scammer, John Kerry.
Liz Lloyd currently praising that alleged fraud on twitter.

Will they get any bungs for selling Scotland down the river with net zero?

After 2014 the SNP had 125,000 members, out of all these members who wouldn’t have taken on the job of CEO unpaid if it meant securing Indyref2.

What about the motorhome?

If the SNP was put forward a plan to actually winning Scottish Independence, lets say Ash Regan plan. If the party held out the hand of friendship for other Pro-Indy parties to join together in securing Independence and asked the general public to help and save the party in order to secure Independence then who wouldn’t help if it meant after years of wasted lies we are now getting to the truth of why Scotland hasn’t been Independent, but I’m afraid the leadership would rather Scotland stay part of England and the SNP went down the toilet then get behind the sole purpose of the party Independence.

A Potemkin party, praised by payroll participants.

All it will take is for one of these unpaid suppliers to lodge a legal action against the SNP for payment and it will all come tumbling down.

According to the treasurer’s statement ( see Accounts – Key Points, last paragraph ), the deficit is not really as high as stated, becauase £571,727 of it is money owed by one part of the party to another part. Creative accounting or what?

Spot on Rev, the mankit SNP elite behave the same as ‘unionist’ (i.e colonial) parties; sold their souls to become tools of colonial capitalism, colonial administrators:

“WEAPONS manufacturers, fossil fuel companies, and a contentious spyware firm are among the sponsors for this year’s Labour Party conference.”
link to thenational.scot

What would the latest forecast (Survation 15 – 18 Aug) mean for finances?
Loss of MPs: 24
Loss of vote: 37% (from 45% in 2019)
Short money loss = £466k for MPs and £336k for votes. Total £802k.
Short money goes from £1.3m to £500k.
Then there’s lost tithes from MPs = £72k.
Total forecast revenue reduction for 2024 = £847k.

This is on top of an existing £800k debt the requirement to raise a war chest for an impending GE and a new CEO hired on £95k pa.
In financial terms, NuSNP are the Enron of politics.

The parallels don’t end there. Enron was a brash, loud, P.R scam masquerading as a going concern while its top Executives filtched the cash away and led the high life.
When the band stopped playing, Enron were exposed as a rather gaudy Ponzi scheme

The handy mnemonic ‘Enron and L. Ron’ just about covers what seems to have gone on.

They are not just out to stop the SNP, They are out to destroy it from within.

Hubbys family are showmen. Way back in 89 we visited his aunt at SECC carnival. She has the wee Duck stall. Then she told us she had to pay £14 per square metre…including height, for her pitch.
Feck knows what the charge now??? Halls are divided. I worked at Santa’s Kingdom in 2002 and we shared floor with Elton John concert! They just pull the dividers..I was able to see the gig for free! Such VANITY within the Executive. Could have used village halls!

This is as fascinating as it is enfuriating.

I have to say, it must have taken a serious toll to the Rev’s stomach to discover all this level of disgusting deception and see it for what it is: relentless and deliberate crushing of Scotland’s democracy.

But this SNP staging charade raises more questions than it gives answers. For instance, who was (still is?) Murrell and Sturgeon’s employer? Who is really managing our MPs and MSPs?

I ask this because judging by the fourth picture, it is strikingly obvious for anybody walking into that venue that the space is almost empty and that the stage is ridiculously oversized compared to the volume of the audience.

Every MP, every MSP, every staffer, every reporter, every member sitting on those chairs must have noticed that.

If the emptiness of the place was so obvious, why were not pictures of this plastered all over the unionist press and twitter?

Were not any external reporters attending the conference?

Was there a ban in place for releasing pictures other than the “official” ones to be published?

Or was there some kind of collusion with the press to go on with the charade of deceiving the public?

What is the real role of Murray Foote in the SNP and has his being part of the SNP anything to do with the compliance of the traditional unionist press in turning a blind eye to this deception?

There is not a huge number of empty chairs, so one can conclude the attendance rate was not any lower than expected. So it looks like it was always designed to be a scripted and staged event designed for external audiences rather than for those sitting at the venue.

It would be interesting to know how many of those sitting in the audience were extras paid as clapping seals and therefore part of the “audiovisual” expenditure.

I find incredibly hard to believe that among attendees there were not some envoys from the unionist parties sent to measure the “temperature”. So not only the press, but potentially the opposition political parties have been colluding to deceive Scottish voters into believing the SNP was a party rather than another UK establishment empty vessel.

Why wouldn’t the press uncover the deception if bringing the party down would increase newspapers sales?
Why didn’t the unionist parties teared Sturgeon a new one in parliament by throwing light on the deception?

To me the only credible answer is they are all on the same side and all have a vested interest in this limping party shell making it to the next GE.

Why would the UK establishment have such interest in keeping this barely-surviving-financially shell so it can make it to the next GE?

Two reasons spring to mind:
1. the proportion of pro-independence voters in Scotland’s electorate has reached critical mass so they cannot longer pull off an election without having a single party that is recognised as pro-independence by the public. Voters might boycott the election in masse. In absence of the SNP, they might have to give ALBA and Mr Salmond air time. Mr Salmond does not seem to be the maleable and unconditionally compliant crown tool Sturgeon and Yousaf are. And to make matters worse, he has a rather large chip on his shoulder: the failed conspiracy aimed at forcing him out of politics potentially attempting to put him in prison for the rest of his life. Who could ensure compliance after such colosal strategic blunder?

2. Because should they have sunk the SNP at that time, they would have given plenty of time for its pro-independence membership and voters to move to ALBA, defeating the main purpose of the whole infiltration strategy: to either silence pro-independence voters by disenfranchising them or trapping them in an empty vessel that is terminally holed below the waterline and therefore going nowhere fast.

The defanging of the SNP by the political fraud in 2015 was, in my opinion, the biggest assault on Scotland’s democracy in modern times. It deliberately removed from the electorate the opportunity to vote for a political party pursuing independence, effectively gagging almost half of the voters. This was done by deceiving voters into believing the party was still pro-independence when in fact it was moving away from independence and towards devolution at flank speed.

The SNP income statement reveals a deficit of over £800,000 for 2022. But that is not the main worry. In my opinion, the main worry is that its statement of financial position reveals that currently, and if I am not mistaken, all SNP assets for 2022 (fixed + current) are insufficient to cover its current liabities for 2022.

The party started with a reserve of around £585,000 at the beginning of the financial year and ended with a deficit of £220,000. Unless it knows beforehand it can raise sufficient funds to cover that deficit plus all its liabilities for 2023, at the current rate, in my view, the party has become insolvent and surviving off the back of creditors.

So my questions are:

1. in the eyes of the EC how big does the deficit in the statement of financial position have to become to force a political party to declare bankrupcy?

2. how close to bankrupcy would the SNP be in December 2022 if it had not received the extra £300,000 odd in conference income, the 40 odd thousand from miscellaneous and the seemingly inflated membership income for the small number of members it still has?

It is beginning to look like the last vestige of democracy Scotland saw in its short history of devolution was the Holyrood election of 2011.

What we appear to have had ever since is a collection of heavily stage-managed events and heavy post-election expectation management designed to preserve the union by systematically crushing democracy and by
deceiving Scotland’s electorate into believing different rosettes represent different parties rather than alternative brands of the exact same faulty product.

Alf Baird,

I hope you accept my Apologies for my delayed response to you on 24th August 6:06pm.
I try keep myself busy generally with domestic chores, but that includes sidelining and researching historical records,

In my response I will break this up into two or three section posts, as there is a lot to deal with in relation to the treaty with Ireland 1800.

Firstly, I agree that Scots stand on the sidelines calcified and motionless observing what happens to them and I will add mentally mummified zombies.
It may seem a terrible comment on my personal observations, but “there are a lot of people on this planet, but very few in it participating.”

Regards the 1800 treaty with Ireland,

It has been my position through researching historical records that Scotland was extinguished from the treaty of union by the terms/ agreement of the treaty of union and that once ratified by both parliaments individual agreed that the Scottish parliament was no longer a participant of the union, or the treaty.

Secondly, that under the “English parliament” they had passed the Triennial Act, pre- supposed union with Scotland, which was basically repealed in 2010, give a tweak or two over the years,

Under both these records besides one or two others, it can be confirmed that the parliament of England continued as it was, except for a name rebrand of its parliament in 1707, to the parliament of Great Britain.

The parliament of Scotland was extinguished and dissolved under English law according to the treaty agreement and ratifications, but only in England, and the UK parliament agrees with this statement on their own site in 2022 and 2023.

In Scotland the old Scottish parliament was Sine Die’d. Adjourned,

The old parliament of England which had continued, was exceptionally quick to take up the new but ” false” roll, of rulers of the main land of Britain.

Under these circumstances in my and many others opinion, this only left The Parliament of England as the sole Parliament in a treaty of non-parliamentary union, with the Scottish parliament gone,

It has taken a number of years on my behalf to find some evidence to turn what was a firm theory into fact, which I greatly enjoyed as it returned many other facts I did not know between Scotland and England.

The 1800 Treaty with Ireland was a defining moment,

As it was the “parliament of England” , Not, the Parliament of a united Scotland and England parliament that that treaty with Ireland came into being,

The “Parliament of England” in 1800 made a treaty with the kingdom of Ireland,
The parliament of England then assumed that because it had rebranded its parliaments( ( (Westminsters) name in 1707, without the ” Scottish Parliament” it would be a treaty of all of Britain,

But Scotland was not included, it was solely the parliament of England,

This verifies that the parliament of England did not cease, that the parliament of England was making treaties in its own name of old, in 1800,
But the parliament of Scotland ceased to be in the treaty in 1707.

From your own perspective, and for Salvo, that “Scotland” can and must be categorised as a “Colony” and not actually in the treaty of a union , as a parliamentary union since 1707; is a information goldmine..

But the ramifications of this “parliament of England” Treaty with the kingdom of Ireland goes much deeper further,

“They are not just out to stop the SNP, They are out to destroy it from within”

They have already destroyed it. The destruction of the SNP started the day the political fraud Sturgeon defanged its constitution and subverted democracy by denying the Scottish electorate the opportunity to vote for a pro-independence party.

The political fraud did this AFTER it was public knowledge that, as a party of independence, the SNP would win GE2015 by a landslide. She saved the union and has continued to do so until the continuity candidate Yousaf took over.

And what was the first thing the “republican in name only” did on becoming FM?
to hand Scotland’s stone of destiny to the English king so they could play at portraying in the eyes of the world Scotland as a subordinate to the English crown. I think what Yousaf did is unforgivable.

Yousaf had no right to hand Scotland’s stone to the English king. That showed his level of contempt for Scotland and how incredibly weak his republican convinction actually is.

The minute there was a coronation ceremony for Scotland’s crown, it became clear both crowns are separate and independent. The stone is to crown Scotland’s monarchs. It has nothing to do with the English crown. Yousaf had no business handing that stone other than to help the English crown to subjugate Scotland. The man acted as another pathetic crown tool like Sturgeon before him did for 9 years.

In 2015 the SNP became a shell whose utility for the British state is that of keeping a large proportion of the yes vote trapped in an innocuous political carcass led by a brigade of corrupt and obedient charlatans.

If it weren’t for Westminster’s £, the SNP would be filing for bankruptcy protection.

But then, ask yourself whose interests are best served by keeping a near-bankrupt, pro-Devo, anti-Indy, incompetent and corrupt SNP running Scotland? Cui bono?

Alf Baird.

Re the The treaty of Ireland 1800.

In my last post to you I mentioned that this treaty has ramifications.
The old parliament of England has not ceasedto be under the Triennial act, and the fact that no new members were elected from the old English parliament toenter the supposed newly created British parliament but were simply transferred by the Queen proclamation under the English parliament.

Thus in every evidence we find the “old English parliament of England incognito” and behind the curtain, still actively making treaties under its namesake of a parliament of England in 1800 while posing as a union of parliaments of Scotland and England.

The English parliament was to end and cease in 1707 at the same time as the Scottish parliament to CREATE and bring about a treaty of union of parliaments called the parliament of Great Britain,
This obviously did not happen, nor proceed into a treaty between Scotland and England parliaments, one being extinguished and the other continuing,
Scotland is not in a parliamentary union with Englands parliament. And that is now made clear by the 1800 treaty between Ireland and England.

The treaty between the “English parliament” 1800 and Ireland brings into question the validity of all treaties since and including that date,
For Westminster acting legally as only a “English parliament” to make a treaty with Ireland throws the fallacious treaty of union with Scotland into the abyss,
It also brings a big question over the pseudo named parliament of Great Britain,
And over the pseudo named parliament of Great Britain and Ireland,
And the pseudo named UK parliament of great britain since at least 1800.

Alf Baird,

Re The treaty of Ireland with the parliament of England 1800,

Being as the above named treaty is with the “English parliament” and not with the “parliament of the treaty of union of Great Britain”, Ireland is in a union with England only,

The ” English parliament” afterwards then slaps on the pseudo title of the parliament Great Britain,
Having just abolished the treaty of union with Scotland by acting as the English parliament in Westminster,

@James Che
Your theory about the use of the ‘parliament of England’ in the Union of Ireland Act 1800 is undercut by the fact that the Parliament of Great Britain is used explicitly in the 1800 Act on many more occasions and is impliedly used even more.
If you’ve actually taken the time to read the act, then you would know that England is mentioned again in relation to religion but Great Britain is used throughout. You cannot use this single mention as a basis for your wrong-headed theories as its single use suggests that it was a scribal error. The canons of interpretation i.e. hermeneutics do not support your approach in any way.
As the act is written on parchment, you would be spending your time more wisely, if you were to contact the person or department responsible for storing these parchments, to enquire if the phrase ‘parliament of England’ is actually written on it at all.
Can I ask why you think a single use of the term ‘parliament of England’, which has no legal meaning, carries more weight in the 1800 Act rather than the many uses of the term Parliament of Great Britain (which of course at that time was the only correct legal and constitutional term for the Westminster parliament)?

“Ring-fenced or Earmarked” – Is this the home of the missing £600,000?

Further to my last post, it occurs to me that the supposedly ring-fenced money could have been turned into the money described in the accounts as being earmarked for branches (the £571,747.previously referred to). It’s pretty close to the right amount.

The SNP could claim that it is sitting there (as a debt, owed to the branches) and that the Supreme Court ruling has meant that it can’t be used for an independence referendum campaign, hence the attempt to hold a ‘de facto referendum’ and claim that any money passed to the branches in support of this represented the ring-fenced money.

That way they could claim that it hadn’t disappeared, it had just been ‘woven’ through the accounts into a ‘debt’ from one part of the party to another, and as it was ‘earmarked’ it would be released to the branches conditionally for a specific purpose.

What do you think Stu?

Alf Baird,

Re the Parliament of england acting in a legal capacity to form atreaty with Ireland in 1800.

The Eight Articles of London,..also known as the “London protocal,” was made under the title of the United Kingdom of Great Britain

Was revisited in 1824, after disputes arose from the treaty called the Anglo-Dutch treaty, also known as the treaty of London,
In 1824, it was the treaty, the Eight Articles of london, but under the new named title of Great Britain and Ireland,

(Remember the historical records, that the treaty by the “English Parliament” acting solely on its own in a legal capacity in 1800, whilst making a treaty with Ireland, broke, ceased, ( not Just breached) the treaty of union with Scotland,)

While “The parliament of England” was still falsely claiming to be the parliament of Scotland, “England” and Ireland after 1800 it acted in 1824 in the Anglo-Dutch treaty exchanging many Colonial gained lands.

This effected many Places and Countries, to name all of them would be a monstrous task, but here are some of them,

Cape of Good Hope,
Demerara,
Essequibo
Berbice
Banka Island
Indonesian Archpelago
Kochi
The Coast of Malabar in India
The district of Barnagore near Calcutta.
The Carrabean Island of Gaudeloupe
The low Countries of Holland.

All these places were exchanged or paid for in 1824 in negotiations “after” the parliament of England acting in sole a legal capacity in making a treaty by itself with Ireland,

The master list of logical Fallacies grows daily, and the “parliament of Englands Westminster” could add many samples and examples to the University of Texas,

But Scotland only observes and is calcified in limited knowledge of what the parliament of England has bestowed upon it in Nought but Colonialism without a valid treaty with Scotland,

I hope indy supporters in Rutherglen and Hamilton West abstain come by-election day. The SNP needs tae be telt.

Dan.

Robin McAlpine’s excoriation of Alex Salmond’s central plank – carbon capture – is very interesting, politically.

Maybe he should take a look at Salmond’s (and Swinney’s) refusal to spend serious money on insulation back in 2009, whilst going on to commit much more serious money on dualling the A9 should get the same treatment. Not hard to see which side Alba is on with Salmond in charge, for the moment.

A glimpse of the lack of ambition infecting all sides in 2009 here:

link to archive.vn

It’s got worse since.

Alf Baird.

Must catch up on more research now, after normal chores,
I hope these “records from archive” have been interesting.

I think this is called ‘fake it till you make it’ much loved by dodgy business people.

Make it SEVEN now!

That’s several well researched articles on SNP finance now from WoS. My guess is that Stuart Campbell knows something about the direction of travel of Operation Branchform. My hope is that Police Scotland drop the political baggage that has been all too evident in recent years and get back to providing a service for the public.

Dan.[I originally posted this 6.31pm but “went into moderation” for some reason – at least 8 subsequent posts so must have been a credentials issue]

Robin McAlpine’s excoriation of Alex Salmond’s central plank – carbon capture – is very interesting, politically.

Maybe he should take a look at Salmond’s (and Swinney’s) refusal to spend serious money on insulation back in 2009, whilst going on to commit much more serious money on dualling the A9 should get the same treatment. Not hard to see which side Alba is on with Salmond in charge, for the moment.

A glimpse of the lack of ambition infecting all sides in 2009 here:

link to archive.vn

The SNP hierarchy puts me in mind of the National Trust hierarchy who in their so called vaunted wisdom appointed Neil Oliver as President, that went well membership and subcriptions. Still they went on to replace him with Union Jackie Bird ! So much for the common touch, their arrogance is beyond shame !

Sam

Guess you agree with Robin McAlpine that carbon capture us pointless, not that you agree on the reasons of course.

You shine a light on the complexities of climate science as ruminated on by a practitioner on a blog. If, in your opinion, that confirms CO2 pumped into the atmosphere by burning fuel pumped out of the ground is not a culprit, then billions invested in carbon capture would be really really stupid.

Unless you’ve got the contract to build the plant. Big construction projects have a way of happening, however harebrained, like dualling the A9 more than it already has been. Whereas sound measures like protecting 10% of the coastal seabed from ecological damage or insulating leaky houses don’t feed them and are therefore ripe for ejection if the politics of the moment requires it.

Giesabrek,

I subscribe to the “Murrell/Sturgeon are catastrophically incompetent” camp. The chances of it being a deliberate ploy by the security services are minuscule. It’s not MI5 that would do it, at any rate. It’s not what they do.

As for Scottish oil and gas, I’d give it until 2040 at the latest. There’s nothing wrong with it once out of the ground from under the seabed, it’s as good as anyone else’s oil and gas. It’s four factors, though:

1: There’s not a huge amount left in the existing wells, and developing new ones is very expensive. The existing wells require working in harsh and expensive conditions offshore, with rigs, helicopters, ships and insurance, when other countries just sink a well in the shale or sand in their back yard.

2: The investment decisions made by companies include taxation and regulatory regimes, and Britain has both a punitive windfall tax and a highly expensive regulatory regime in comparison with say Nigeria or Qatar.

3: The direction of travel by all political parties is towards net zero, so point (2) isn’t going to get any easier.

4: Scotland’s oil and gas is always going to be more expensive than oil and gas from other places, as a result of points (1) to (3), so it will be the first to be abandoned as global demand subsides as a result of the COP conferences and increasing renewables coming on stream.

2040, at the latest. It’s 2023 now. What political party would bet future independence on 17 years of a steadily declining revenue stream?

Scot abroad
Why should anyone believe you.
In the 1970s they said it would last 10 years
Labour said is was very poor quality
Every election since, it is running out
At0 the referendum in 2014 it was finished
Now they are opening new wells
There are around 200 to 300 rigs in the north sea
How many to come down the west coast??

Unionists are incapable of telling the truth in this regard as it does not fit the scare story of the day.

The Scots have been the 13th largest oil producer for 50 years and you could not point to one asset built with the revenue.

In a way the Scots deserve nothing having swallowed such nonsense but don’t come on here talking such pish

ps what shift you on tonight

Ascotabroad
YAAAWN !

Jock McT and Shug,

you are free to bury your heads in the sand, but the fact remains that Scottish oil and gas has about 17 years left until 2040, when no company will be interested in extracting it, because they can make more money elsewhere in the world with oil and gas.

Both of you emblematic of not thinking through things from either a commercial point of view, or with regard to politics. Not a good start for Indy, then.

Crimes might be hidden if the SNP goes bust, because organisations tend to not preserve information when they no longer exist.

As dire as the finances is it might be quite urgent to take action to prevent loss of this information.

This is probably quite difficult. I know that removal or destruction of information usually is illegal when it is relevant to an ongoing investigation, but with the insane stunts the legal system in Scotland does it does not bode well.

Might bankruptcy be a desperate but determined way to remove information about who Sturgeon met and when, the Alex Salmond scam trial, and other horrible acts?

Racketeers. For years.

If they paid their suppliers they would be a million quid in the red.

I agree with charlie – this looks like someone extracting what they can before it all goes belly up.

Kittybee,

Where is your quote about Spey coming from? I can’t see it in the article. If the SNP are paying Spey and Dempsie for the incredibly inflated conference expenditure, for example, that would be a massive story.

Mac

Alastair Crooke was never an Ambassador. He is ex MI6. He is highly knowledgeable and a very good analyst on Middle East affairs. He knows less of Eastern Europe and the ex Soviet union than I do.

I apologise if I offend you by not pretending to have perfect understanding of events, but I suspect it is my refusing to subscribe to the cult of Putin that is actually needling you.

ASA – Re Nigerian oil – you have made much of an independent Scotland’s inability to provide physical security to oil companies who are extracting oil and gas from the North Sea. Is Nigeria better able to provide that security?

Even if net-zero is achieved, we will still be reliant on oil and gas for around 20% of our energy needs and so the 100 or so additional licenses are being released because energy companies want them and the country needs them and it is as simple as that.

JockMcT 9.55pm

‘ … while we await our inevitable fate, wouldn’t it be nice to be independent, to not be a colony, to have our own jockerooni currency, to look after our people,.…”

Guess you’ve not got any kids.

The folk who make money out of burning oil worked ceaselessly these last thirty years to prevent any form of transition to less destructive forms of agriculture, transport and heating. The addicts they created over the previous century now fear cold turkey.

Good to hear you are now getting dispirited as it becomes obvious that the environmental effects of the People’s Oil dream are real not imagined and the green case gets relentless. Persisting with the Scottish version is starting to look more trouble than it’s worth, even to the addicts. Maybe there’s hope yet!

[an earlier version of this might appear – fumbled the email address, combination of Ipad keyboard and old age]

@Captain Yossarian 8:38pm
Sounds like Leonardo they still have a facility in Edinburgh. Amazing what they are designing for the air defence industry That’s the facility that the Greens want to shut down. In any event I was just agreeing with the you on the standard of Stu’s forensic articles. Captain have a good weekend. I am about and savouring the last of the good weather.

Wind farms.

“They extract kinetic energy from the wind field to generate electricity. So-called atmospheric wake vortices occur downwind of the wind turbines. These are characterized by reduced wind speeds, special pressure conditions and increased air turbulence. Under stable atmospheric conditions, the wind speed deficits spread up to 70 km behind the wind farms.”

If Judy Curry’s climate science is right, supported by Javier Vinos, wind farms adversely affect the climate.

link to hereon.de

“From a thermodynamic point of view, the energy has to come from somewhere. The source is almost certainly due to a reduction in albedo that decreases outgoing shortwave radiation, partially offset by an increase in outgoing longwave radiation. This decrease in albedo is almost certainly caused by a decrease in cloud cover, which also points to lower wind speed and less evaporation as the ultimate cause.”

ASA,
“..the fact remains that Scottish oil and gas has about 17 years left until 2040”

That’s some prediction, do you also read tea leaves?
But hey, let’s assume you are correct, 17 years of oil revenues for the UK, that’s 67 million people. Now if Scotland was to estimate how long the oil would benefit itself at the same rate for 5.4 million people it would last for 12 times as long, an equivalent of over 200 years.

1. Benefit of oil for the people of Scotland within the UK = 17 years.
2. Benefit of oil for the people of Scotland outwith the UK = 200 years +.

Decisions, decisions, poor wee Scotland.

Dorothy Devine says:
26 August, 2023 at 8:13 am
Johnlm, I’m not so sure you just made that up , I find it more than plausible.

Agreed.

BRICS now boasts 23% of the global economy, 25% of global investment, 18% share of global trade, and 33.4% of global GDP. The BRICS 5 are now larger than the G7.

The latest recruits to BRICS are UAE, Saudi Arabia, Iran, (let me repeat that, Saudi AND Iran), Argentina, Egypt and Ethiopia, with many other nation’s de-dollarising their economic dependencies, and expressing their interest in joining. Turkey and Greece to name 2.

Jeffery Sachs, a US Economist, Academic, and writer states we are already in a Post American / Post Western World, and already living in a Multi-polar world. I feel inclined to agree with him, and frankly, I worry about what the US will do once the penny (or actually dollar) drops.

The closer you look, the more worrying it looks. The BRICS economies actually make things and have manufacturing as a prime component of their economy whereas we in the West have turned our back on manufacturing and jumped into bed with NeoLiberalism and fat cat economics which leave societies weak and over dependant on support, and kept in check via gaslighting propaganda.

For decades now, it has bee US / UK / Western cynical and obnoxious Foreign Policy which has been “the” key driver in advancing the viability and indeed necessity of BRICS, in a world which has grown tired of US bullying interference in their economies, if not actually bombing the shit out of them.

The curiosity, well one of them, is the EU, already with Greece looking towards BRICS membership, but what is Germany supposed to do?

It was just so incredibly stupid for the US to destroy the Nordstream 2, because the message resonating in Germany is that the US will readily sacrifice Germany’s economic interests in a heartbeat, if the US believes it can hurt Ruskia.

You can look through your crystal ball or throw the runes in the air over and over again, but the vision you see is beginning to look the same and tell the same story with graphic consistency.

Scotland needs to grow up, and do it fast, because we are chained by the ankle to so much negative buoyancy we will be dragged to the bottom in spite of our spectacular resources. London will use Scotland’s resources as it’s aqualung… as usual.

Just look a Peterhead’s new £2.1 billion power “connection” designed to suck more resource out of Scotland. Wake up Scotland. The BRICS nations are not our enemy. Not yet anyway, but that won’t be our decision to make unless we take back our Nation and champion our constructive neutrality. Then we have a say.

Christine.

“We have been lied to”

Well said, these lies that are the ruination of Scotland are slowly being proven around the world for what they are, Lie’s.

Now if Scotland could just recognise the biggest lie that was ever told to them, 1707
We would walk away from all the other lie’s that you mentioned,

But the biggest, longest lie told to Scotlands people sounds so plausible it has to be true, doesn’t it?
No, it is just a bigger better lie.

And we understand “it ” and all the lie’s you mentioned above that are imposed on us better when we understand, The list of Logical Fallacies, from Texas university.

Christine…..didn’t know about the Voltaire quote, but I’ve been saying for years on this forum that making us “Believe the unbelievable is their primary purpose in their project to wreck traditional society.

Very fine post, that’s what makes me come back here.

Christine
Freedom is probably closer than most of us imagine.

Heckling, is a good start, and will probably have to be deemed illegal, but just ‘playing the daft man’ with authority grinds the system down.
They need us to comply with our own control or their expenses become unaffordable.

Back in the 60’s ‘God save the queen’ started or finished most public events.
My dad always stayed seated, as did I, despite whispers and dirty looks.
Eventually, booing the anthem at sporting events became ‘de rigueur’ and an international embarrassment for them.
Happy days.

Not even a large number of non-compliers is needed.
It builds links among the disenfranchised; opposes ‘divide and rule’ politics.

Btw when is the deadline for returning my census form?

Excellent posts from Breeks ( as per ) , Christine & Akenaton

Between you , you covered just about all the relevant ground .

I’d only add I’m fucking sick to the back teeth of the incessant lying – by false statement and omission – from almost the entire political class , their diseased mouthpieces in MSM and the ovine herd that hang-on to their every utterance , squealing ” conspiracy theorist ” at anyone who dares question the increasingly absurd , bizarre , demonstrably untrue shite that issues from the mealy mouths of those supposedly acting in their interests . I can’t think of a time when this disconnect between the Elected and the Electorate was so egregious .

I don’t mean to pick-on ALBA , they are clearly better – in every sense – than the stupifyingly atrocious other ( nominally ) * Scottish * parties : but they need to start talking out about the things referred to in those posts by the aforementioned .

I’m of the opinion there is a largely untapped audience ready and eager to hear actual Truth being spoken by those in positions of responsibility and influence .

An audience that can see for themselves the scale of duplicity being inflicted , but see no one addressing it : leading to frustration , disillusion and the belief ” they’re all the same ” . At times , I have to agree with that thought

Revolution can be imaginative and fun.
N.b. defacing banknotes is not allowed (if they decide).
So be careful how you do it.

Scotland is at the stage many countries find themselves, stuck with political systems and politicians few have faith in.
Democracy without 24/7 oversight, helped by complacency, gullibility, stupidity and political immaturity have brought this about.
An alternative for Scotland, either built on the ruins of the old system or constructed on fresh ground is surely signaling.
The muzzled pseudo democracy of the times makes «sheeple» of us all.

@ Anton Decadent

” Giffnock Marxists ” . LOL ! Do they hang-out with the Newton Mearns Anarcho-Syndicalists and have heated dialectic arguments with the Clarkston Bahbahbahder Mine’s Hof ?

Not all of us are ” forgetting ” , though . We see clearly the destruction these clowns have wrought not only on the case for Independence , on the country itself . They HAVE to be removed at the earliest opportunity . They are killing Scotland .

@ akenaton

It’s not just the West coast and islands area where the invasion of the nation snatchers are abundant.
I took a motorbike ride up a glen earlier this week and stopped on three occasions to ask “the locals” directions, everyone in the groups I spoke to were English! Not sure how well my big unmissable YES sticker on the front of bike went down as I rolled up to stop, but situations like that do make me feel somewhat uneasy and an outcast in my own land which is frankly a ridiculous situation.
I’ve mentioned previously, there’s around 200 newborn kids in my area and only 20 bairns to both Scottish parents. Do stats like that occur in any other country?
Forget playing Spot the Ball competitions, the new game in town round my way is Spot the Scot. 🙁

Aye, I’m also getting sick and tired of this relentless climate catastrophe bullshit. For sure it makes sense to kerb the rampant consumerism of throwaway junk, and generate and use energy in an efficient and environmentally sound way as possible. But I am not seeing credible implementable alternatives being suggested by those that pontificate so much on the subject.
I wondered how those climate change activists had time to glue themselves to the road and disrupt the UCI Edinburgh to Glasgow cycle race a few weeks back. Because I was flat out working and harvesting and preserving my fruit and veg crops. Guess those “planet saving” twats will just be relying on fossil fuel powered agricultural food production practices, and global food trade systems to provide their food…

There’s an often overlooked aspect to the global food trade that isn’t just about the economics and fuel used to transport food stuffs about the planet. That aspect is to do with water. Because a lot of the time fruit and veg is grown in faraway locations where water is a scarce commodity, and it takes way more precious water to grow the likes of a tomato plant than the tomato fruit contains. So our desire to eat exotic or out of season produce is only viable because we are prepared to exploit and exercise our advantage over other places.
I’ve been chomping my own homegrown tomatoes for weeks now, and they are incredibly tasty compared to those for sale in a supermarket.
I may appear on occasion to jovially highlight the middle class with their penchant for munching avocado and chia seeds, but I am actually being serious about pointing out their apparent utter denial of an issue and / or unwillingness to alter their habits.

I see Patrick Harvie was called a deviant… And I absolutely abhor homophobic abuse. It’s nothing to do with his sexuality, it was a very accurate description from a member of public.

We know he likes to platform with paedophiles and is a rapist enabler with his self ID nonsense.

Leave the kids alone Harvie. Greens out.

“It’s not just the West coast and islands area where the invasion of the nation snatchers are abundant.
I took a motorbike ride up a glen earlier this week and stopped on three occasions to ask “the locals” directions, everyone in the groups I spoke to were English!”

Dan.

The massive influx of incomers from South of the border to Scotland especially in smaller towns must make the local Scots feel like Palestinians pre-1948. Dissolving the union will stop this disgraceful procedure, but we need and indy minded FM with the strength of character to block these incomers from voting on constitutional matters like some other nations do.

No other country would allow such unchecked immigration, maybe we need our own go home vans aimed specifically at the English. Interestingly one of the English governments priorities is to stop the boat people (a derogatory term for immigrants crossing the English channel) yet when the likes of Sean Clerkin holds a banner up saying go home English he’s castigated as some sort of bigot.

What is the point of the Bute House agreement, if they are standing against each other despite being in Government together?

The by-election in Rutherglen has been organised for the labour party. The Tories in Scotland are switching to labour as well.

Shona Robinson says Nicola Sturgeon doesn’t want Scotland united.

She hates Alex Salmond because she’s angry at herself… because she knows what she’s done!

Big Eck should run and give the people of Rutherglen the real alternative. A Former First Minister representing your town who understands our needs in Glasgow.

Of the four grooming gangs I know of which were active in Glasgow/Scotland none of them were made up of English men. Scotland is being colonised but not just by the English.

@RoS

“No other country would allow such unchecked immigration”

It is being carried out in every Western nation apart from a few such as the Czech Republic, Poland and Hungary which have the guts to tell the destroyers of nations to feck off.