Wings Over Scotland

The National has become the New BBC and funded by the New SNP.

Should we expect a swathe of MSP’s defecting to Alba?

If not, why not?

36 votes to become a Scottish Government Minister shows how lacking in democracy Scotland is.

“Indyref2” has been postponed so often, that it’s bound to have passed its’best before’ date. Would it not be better just to bin it and go straight for “Indyref3”?

If it hasn’t dawned yet on those SNP MSPs and MPs who are unhappy with the approach of Sturgeon’s cabal that they would have a fairly strong hand if they were to defect to Alba, then there is little hope for them. Given the current electoral arithmetic it wouldn’t even take that many for them to hold the balance of power.

There *might* have been some argument at the time of the last Holyrood election that they should wait and see what happened, but surely even that “Hail Mary pass” has been shown to be fruitless? We now have a coalition in all but name with the odious Green Party which is if anything even more extremely misogynistic than Sturgeon’s acolytes. We’ve seen continued appointments of unsuitable TRA extremists, expressions of anti democratic deeply regressive plans to extend Covid powers indefinitely, failure to address how #indyref2 will magically fall in to our laps.

Hard questions now have to be asked of Joanna Cherry, Angus McNeil and any MSPs who want to see Sturgeon gone. What will it take for you to act? There comes a point surely where the interests of the independence movement have to be put before those of your party, your concerns about your own positions and your concerns about to your staff if you leave the SNP? Since we aren’t getting #indyref2 anytime soon, is it really worth spending the next several years trying to make an electoral silk purse out of the sow’s ear that is the current SNP?

Politics is full of examples of parties that have split for all sorts of reasons. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t, but what else do they – and we – have to lose?

Sturgeon , lacking anything resembling honesty , integrity , character or imagination has put the final piece of the * jigsaw * in place that will see the destruction of Scotland as anything other than a demented experiment in Gender Ideological social engineering , enforced by State power and , unless some as yet unseen circumstances lead to her ejection , has hammered the last nail into the coffin marked ” Independence .

This has to be deliberate . no one , surely , can be THIS politically deranged

Andy @ 8.47

Yes , if any of those * dissidents * you mention remain in the SNP now they will lose whatever credibility as * voices of reason * the currently have

Any bullshit about * working from within to effect change * just won’t cut it now . GTF out of that no longer fringe lunacy immediately or be considered pathetic enablers

Poor Ivan McKee , despite doing a good job looks like the one who loses out here. Too man of a certain age and not wokey enough for the Nicoletties.

So, Angus Brendan MacNeil, and Joanna Cherry, are you prepared to stand up against this ridiculous undemocratic green coalition, or are you enjoying your salary too much?

And then what of all the other SNP MSP’s and MP’s, not one with a backbone. Not one, prepared to voice dissent of any kind. They will all be clapping along.
Meanwhile homophobic and women-hating policies will be enacted by Sturgeon and Harvie. And they just keep on clapping, like trained monkeys.

Just wait, be patient, soon, haud yer wheesht.

As the days turn into months and the years drift into decades independence gets more and more like Never Never Land.

Squatters rights do not apply in Bute house or Holyrood.

More Jam Tomorrow on the cover of the Dear Leader’s fanzine and the WGD idiots lap it up.

Meanwhile, the place will be flooded with puberty blocking pills for kids and teens just so that big pharma will get its cheque book out. After all, short money and a wedge taken from the salaries of its MPs only goes so far towards an over-inflated bill for HQ staffers…

Adam Tomkins is a chap that many on these pages dislike. He said during the Fabiani Inquiry that John Swinney would ‘do anything to save his own neck’. I’ve dealt with John Swinney a few times and that has been my impression of him too.

There were two votes of no-confidence in him as a result of the Fabiani Inquiry. His neck was saved by Patrick Harvie who accused those voting for John Swinney’s removal as having ‘political motives’. The implication being that they were dishonestly trying to get rid of an innocent, honorable man.

My reading of it at the time was that they were trying to get rid of a dishonest man and were prevented from doing so by another dishonest man.

Anyway, Patrick Harvie has been duly rewarded. That’s my reading of the situation.

@100%yes

Good for you, this New SNP /Green deal is the biggest of fuck yous to Salmond and Alba. It’s directly attacking the Alba party policy of standing up for women. Never in a million years will there be any cooperation from the New SNP as long as sturgeon and her cult are in charge. The only way things will change is when she is in jail.

The Yoons were right when they said neverendum…

If not, why not?

Hand on heart, do we either need or want them to?

Let them own the despicable con and trans bollocks dystopia they’ve suffered upon Scotland, and go down with their ship.

I actually feel the same way about the dim and gullible twats lapping it all up and begging for another bowl of sugar coated Indy Tomorrow Flakes. Hell mend them. Unpardonable pricks the lot of them.

Poor Ivan McKee , despite doing a good job looks like the one who loses out here.

He’s my MSP and the only reason I voted SNP in May. Had I been in a fair few other constituencies I wouldn’t have given a first vote at all. I’d love if he went over to Alba at some point and carried on his work for them. But I can also see why it would be hard for anyone to jump right now. You can imagine the howls from the Alba haters if people they voted for as SNP shift over. Understandably, to be fair – the election was only a few months ago. And jumping in response to the Green coalition is still too niche – few understand the GRA, HCB issues. Timing will be critical, when there’s a good reason, a principled stand to be taken. Like when Whiteman resigned over the sex of an examiner. I imagine the new coalition will give them plenty chances for taking such stands over the next year or two. Also, if Alba is a step too far, there’s a long tradition of party MSPs jumping to become independent.

Basically Sturgeon is now like a highly-controlling religious cult leader who rakes in the money whilst making promises to the gullible and confused followers.

What can we actually do about it?

I’m with Breeks on this.

Let them get on with it. We should just sit back, watch the show and have a good laugh!

Getting Boris to agree to a ‘section 30’ is one thing but the big question is how will that ‘load of duds’ ever win an IndyRef2?

‘Holiday Boy’ is going to have a hard job competing with the jokes coming out of Holyrood.

@Dan,

even if some SNP MSPs decided to stand up for woman and vulnerable children and vote against Self ID the British Labour Party at Holyrood would support the vote for Self ID,

Sir Keir Rodney Starmer KCB QC is just as in thrall to the transcult/Stonewall as She/Her and the Green Goblin.

I don’t find it hard to imagine the UK State will allow a couple of years of SNP/Green madness to infect the body politic then * grant * an IndyRef secure in the knowledge – after it and the MSM drop the shit they have on her – the result will be a resounding defeat .

Case closed . All hail the New Union Hegemony

How many people comment on the articles in The National now there in the single figures. We all remember the New SNP telling us not to call the next referendum Indyref2. Its how everyone is cashing in on the idea of a referendum when certain bloggers, newspapers and politicians are making a good living out of Indyref2, change isn’t coming because they don’t want change it affects the wallets of those who are taking us all for fouls.

Liz says:
21 August, 2021 at 10:06 am
Where did Lorna Slater come from? How long has she been a Green member?

They had to have a presentable women as a shield for this gender crap.
Chapman always looks deranged.

Slater was interviewed, was doing well answering questions until they asked her,what is a woman or something about sex, stuttered stumbled could hardly speak.

She is either a plant or a trougher

Reply

Has anyone who supports self-id given a satisfactory answer to similar questions?

And in other news, Liz Lloyd is ‘rewarded’for her loyal service (knowing where all the bodies are buried is a powerful thing) and is being appointed Sturgeon’s new Strategic Advisor.

@ Scot Finlayson at 10.02am

Even if it were the case that Labour would assist passing the legislation, the point is for decent individuals to at least take a stand against this bollox as it would potentially be a catalyst to raising awareness amongst the electorate, with political ramifications.

It’s about way more than just the genderwoowoo. The way the SNP Party has been so corrupted by She / Her and her clique with the Party constitution changes and ongoing NEC shenanigans.

Doing nothing means they are complicit and facilitating those in power to continue on their desired trajectory.
After all…
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good wo/men to do nothing.”

A national party with no interest in self determination and a green party with no time for the environment.

A marriage made in the heaven of convenience and utility.

Perhaps the hallmark of the FM’s reign.

However, all the hard work is in trusted hands:

After 6 years as FM Chief of staff pleased to say I’m taking up a new post next week as First Minister’s Strategic Adviser focussed (sic) on long term transformational policies for Scotland incl net zero, poverty & the economy. First up #cop26.

I’m sure when she’s sorted out these problems, she will be 200% focused on preserving the union.

Andy Ellis says:
21 August, 2021 at 10:19 am

Imagine the panic at SNP HQ if BoJo turned round tomorrow and said he’d changed his mind and decided to grant a S30 order.
If I was in his sweaty shoes, that is exactly what I would do.

Given current circumstances I’m not that confident we’d win.

Not with the fourth and fifth new members of the better together gang.

Even if they did, they’d negotiate hard for slightly less than Haiti got from France.

Very recently some of the posters on here have doubted my ‘Independence credentials’. That is up to them-I am not required to convince anybody.
I have stated many times that the beginning of the road to an Independent Scotland is the removal of Sturgeon and her acolytes. Is any one seriously suggesting this is wrong given the events of the last day or two or the past 7 years with Queen Nicola at the helm.
Alex Salmond and the Alba party have got a golden opportunity to present to the Scottish people a real, honest route to Independence but they cannot do this by sitting on their backsides and doing nothing. It may be that their view is to play the long game and simply allow the SNP to self destruct but, given the gullibility of the Scottish electorate this is a dangerous tactic.
Alba should also be reluctant to take on board any current SNP MSP’s who seem to be totally spineless and simply in Politics for their own personal benefit.
Difficult times ahead for all in Scotland.

I agree with both of Abdy Ellis’s posts. I live in the Edinburgh Northern and Leith constituency, and I couldn’t bear vote for Ben MacPherson. I even emailed him before the election to tell him why I wouldn’t be doing so. To be fair to him, he did actually reply to me but didn’t address any of my concerns, particularly over women’s rights, gender identity ideology/queer theory, and safeguarding, as well as the SNP’s authoritarian turn.

I had already made up my mind to vote Alba on the list, and I voted Labour for the constituency as I was impressed by their candidate and she had said on record that she felt the constitutional issue was one for the people. It was a vote for her rather than her party.

This shady wee deal means that it’s goodbye to women as a category, never mind their hard-won rights, and the ushering in of authoritarianism and the Thought Police.

If I could afford to do it, I’d be packing up my life and buggering off elsewhere, because I don’t like where I see Scotland going. Sturgeon and her poisonous, men’s rights activist cabal need to be brought down, fast.

I must admit it, I’m not a big fan of Peter A. Bell’s writing, however on this occasion I must take my hat off to him, as he and The White Rose Rising Group intends to hold a demo outside the Holyrood parliament on Tuesday the 31st of August at 2pm, the Scottish parliament resumes on that day, after its Summer recess.

Mr Bell and the group wants Sturgeon to name a date for the next indyref, as we all do.

Good luck Mr Bell, you’ll need it.

@Andy Ellis 10:19 am

Astonishing level of cognitive dissonance there Andy.

Of course we wouldn’t f*****g win!

What will it take before reality sinks in? Every political party active in Scotland, possibly excepting Alba, is in the lie-peddling business. Labour aren’t interested in working people. The Tories don’t protect traditional values. The Lib Dems won’t protect rights and freedoms. The Greens have already sold out on the environment.

And yes, the SNP want to run a devolved government, subbed from WM, in perpetuity. Collectively, they have no more idea on how to organise the affairs of a sovereign nation than I have.

What the SNP are doing is managing the transition from being a party with a defined destination, to being one with an ongoing journey. The key thing to understand is that the journey is now the raison d’etre, and the destination has been abandoned. By doing this, the SNP expects to remain in power indefinitely. I think it highly likely that they have already gamed how to hold IndyRef2 (eventually), how to lose it again (just), and how to therefore retain power afterwards. Where else would the Indy supporters put their crosses?

So what about Alba? They have to start building the case for Indy again, not from scratch, but not from where it was when NS took over either. Too much has happened in the wider world since then. Alba has to be crystal clear in putting the message about that the SNP “brand” has been hollowed out just as much as the brands touted by the other parties. TBH, that should not be too difficult.

Thanks rev once again for showing the sham that the SNP is and the National for what it is.
What does it take to wake people up.

Re my 11.26am comment I forgot the link apologies.

link to peterabell.scot

Republicofscotland

I don’t know whether this coincides with his decision to leave the SNP or not but Peter Bell’s writing has improved dramatically in recent months. It’s crisper, clearer and more direct. So much so that I’d rate him and Grouse Beater as the two people who are really worth paying attention to right now.

It’s interesting to see how fortunes change. Rob Brown’s recent assault against Alex Salmond was definitely a foot gun and you can tell he knows it in his writing also (not just the mea culpa post). The May elections burned out Barrhead Boy and Iain Lawson and they don’t seem to have recovered yet. The others are generally firing on all cylinders and overall I think the state of the indy bloggers is much better – I wonder if that’s because there’s more attention available after the Rev. “retired”.

On https://www.voices.scot I’ve been collecting stats on what links are clicked (but not who clicked on them). There’s three months worth of data now so it might be possible to start looking at trends. I’m hoping to add the stats to the site so you can see who’s stock is rising, falling, etc.

What I really want to find out is whether the blogs are waxing or waning. Traffic to the voices site is up, but the low numbers mean it’s hard to judge whether there’s more interest in the indy bloggers and hence less in the media stream propagandists or not.

Right now, Peter Bell’s “makeover” is a great contribution to the cause and I’m hoping to see more like him.

Thanks for the link Stuart, you might be right, and on Peter A. Bell, I think you might be correct as well, his link I posted @11.54am is certainly inspiring.

@Dan,

strangely and sadly the only party protecting woman and vulnerable children would be the British Conservative party at Holyrood,

and about the only MSP that has put their head above the parapet has been Murdo Fraser (maybe Baillie not sure)

how f@cked up is that,

the world is upside down.

I never thought it was possible to create a scenario where I’d possibly vote NO in an indyref, or at best abstain.

Sturgeon has quite remarkably and in the space of seven years made the unimaginable real for me.

She is horrific. When you start looking at Westminster as a welcome brake on her it would be very hard to knowingly give her so much more power and probably 5-10 years to do what she wanted.

But I suspect she will get indyref2 because you’d want her in charge to lose it.

She’d be straight on TV saying that the matter was now over for at least a generation blah blah blah… pleased as punch but putting on a sad face.

The SNP are completely lost to me now. I want nothing but failure for them.

The greens are even bigger wokeballs than the imposter roasters occupying the SNP these days. The combination is going to be very destructive to Scotland’s economy amongst many other things.

I don’t think the average SNP voter in Scotland has a clue just how dumb and dangerous the SNP now are and what they have unleased on Scotland for the next five years.

By the time they do realize it, the damage will have been mostly done. The gleeful media for sure will not be pointing it out or highlighting it to them.

I think Stuart McKay is Peter Bell! @11:57

When you say it’s gonna happen “now”
well, when exactly do you mean?
see I’ve already waited too long
and all my hope is gone …

To avoid any chance of any strange upcoming accusations on trumped up charges in a false court case and to avoid any surreal accusations of being an extremist against governments I will refer to to those whom are incarcerating people and going against the people in the kingdom as mythology or fairy tale characters, no one will have a name attached, a bit like victim A or victim B so I cannot be accused of placing a jigsaw together.

Nowadays you have no idea how big brother or big sister is watching our comments, but one thing is for sure. They do.
The second thing that is guaranteed is people whom write something that is not to the liking of the wicked witch or the green goblins are challenged to court case as the writer whom is semi retired was by a red female goblin not so long ago.

In all the confusing of fairy tale myths whereby evil magic was put upon the people in the kingdom to change boys to girls and girls to boys,
And where the young children in the kingdom were being stolen for purposes we are fearful to guess at mostly by the green goblins an blue downy south wizards.
It is the wonder of others in that kingdom why the parents have not come together to resist the evil.

But it also has come to light that at the other end of the age scale, the older people of the lands have been attacked unmercifully, for they are to be put to work until they drop down,
should they survive extended work age they are to be imprisoned in old people’s homes by decree.
and there to the delight of the wicked witch a plague should be let loose kill upon those old people that cannot escape, any thing could be done now to these old people of the land.
The downy south wizards planned the same.
For it was a good plan,
especially if you temporarily locked up their children into their homes, banned them from visiting the vulnerable in their old homes,
stopped autopsies or them seeing the older people even on the day they were to be buried and the.evilist plan to lock down any repercussions of justice and law.

Disposal of the elderly that are no longer of any use as a work force and reducing having reduced many pension pay outs was all for the good.

However this cannot be guaranteed to have success, so all measures must be taken to ensure that none survive.
So an attack is made upon the old by stealing of the rest life savings called pensions.
However the wicked witch nor her friends the Downey south wizards think this will be ample to dispatch the old or to change the attitudes of people in the land,

There must be a subversive mental attack on the younger people to disrespect the old people of their kingdom by comic pictures of the old beaten up in there homes,
or advertising death preprogrammed messages for planning when they will soon die .

Never include old people in advertisements as buying a new sports car or swimming or cycling unless for joint pain,

Or perhaps showing magnifyed black and white pictures that have exaggerated wrinkles on their faces.
And perhaps ensuring that the young are disassociated from their parents and grandparents by introducing pre child child care by strangers.

The elderly were once very important to a community as they used to look after their grandchildren while parents were at work,
The community system often kept three generations in close bonds an ties.
Family discussions on care and health of the whole family took place.
All three generations had connections with the outside world plus neighbours at varying levels,
Making a vibrant community with others.
And of course the elderly passed on and instilled years of wisdom to the young, helped them set up their new homes, pressed a bit of pocket money into little hands. And shared laughter and tears.

For years the wizards and witches planned that the young and old should become separated,
That they should not care or help each other.

For they could see that young people were vulnerable and easily brainwashed, by early teachings,
They could be used to destroy human society. Giving total control an power over to the wizards and witches.

Is this a fairy story. Or is this what has happened to our young and old.
Is it to late to reconnect with our young,
for the young may not have the wisdom to know they have been stolen and used at all by the witches and wizards to go against their own families.

If Patrick Harvey is seeking direction from the crackhead Jacinda Ardern then we are in Big trouble. New Zealand is an open air Concentration Camp. Horrendous.

@David

“Seven long, frustrating, years.”

You forgot to add “wasted”.

Tommo says:
21 August, 2021 at 11:56 am

For what its worth my view is that She has in fact an extremely shrewd ‘political’ brain-ie she is entirely without moral compass, self seeking and devious

That is her forté

Politics in the office sense,not policy.

link to bitchute.com
To any snowflakes who may watch this. There’s a fairly grim piece of footage in this video.

If you’d been asleep since September 2014 and woke up to that ‘historic’ statement yesterday, you’d be forgiven for thinking that it’s some kind of wind-up.

Even hard-core Sturgeonites must now be wondering – is she sending some kind of coded signal, ‘Flee! All has been dioscovered!’-style?

Unbelievable.

Willie, I WON’T welcome them, they are a fifth column for Islamic. Nicola Sturgeon I hare you and all you stand for.

@Willie

Surely some mistake.

Plenty of UK government compassion. 20,000 Afghans expected/planned for under the Afghan Citizen’s Resettlement Scheme.

Who’s telling porkies here? And why?

link to m.youtube.com
In Paris right now.

“The White Rose Rising Group” – Jesus fking Christ.

Do these people even stop to consider what the ordinary punter in the street they’re hoping for support (or at least money) from is going to think of it, before coming up with their stupid DC Superheroes wee gang names?

At least the Pie & Mash Squad picked their completely moronic name because they were making a conscious effort to appeal to complete morons. But the “White Rose Rising Group” – sounds like somewhere between John Buchan and Enid Blyton territory.

As for Peter Bellend, a broken clock’s right twice a day. He may do proofreadering before posting now in his bid to become a career blogger, but he’ll always be nothing more than the thinking man’s Sean Clerkin, who himself is the thinking man’s Peter Dow.

Antilockdown demos in France & Australia. If the Scots hadnt had their balls cut off by Old Nick they might join them.
Rogues, parcel, bin. Make a sentence.

I see the SNP getting decimated at the next UK GE. By decimated I mean losing as many as two thirds of their MPs.

The Greens should not be allowed within a mile of government. Certainly not the current crop.

James Che. says:
Quote: 21 August, 2021 at 4:48 pm

“Nurture your children whether they are three months old or thirty years old,

Show love, warmth, a listening ear, a helping hand, a regular communication, understanding they are not copy printouts of yourself,
visit for short regular periods and try take the sunshine with you to make them happier with you’re visiting.
Invite them for a simple meal, and find time to help them with the garden shed or painting and decorating,

Forget the divisions and old arguments.

Re- Grow your family and bonds,
Grow your community
And strengthen your nation

For if we do not start with the fundamentals of society. Every thing we hold dear for ourselves and our children will be lost to us all.

That is what is wrong with the yes movement, with Scotland, the cohesion is disappearing.”

Indeed.

Do you not think that is probably the plan with the BAME/LGBT agenda being enforced by the SNP, starting with 4 year olds??

Destroy the cohesion of the family unit; start by isolating the young [very young] then gain control of their minds.

Orwellian, it has been ongoing for a decade at the minimum.

Two pieces on the same subject, the SNP-Green deal.

Your essential weekend reading:

‘A Hundred False Dawns’: link to wp.me
‘A Tawdry Deal’: link to wp.me

Seriously, our friends the Greens may be onto something and perhaps we really should be thinking of what kind of world we are going to leave behind for Keith Richards!

@Beaker 5.53 pm

If it’s a Westminster GE what does it matter? Unless Scottish MPs were going to be holding the balance of power (which given the abject state of Labour and the LDs hardly seems likely) they aren’t going to make a bling bit of difference. Even when they DID have some leverage during May’s brexit travails, they squandered it in an undemocratic attempt to deprive English voters of what they voted for, so the track record of Scottish Westminster MPs is hardly something we should be talking up.

Alba should announce they’ll take the same stance as Sinn Fein: if nothing else it’d be worth it to see the yoons heads explode and the Nicolytes shit themselves at the thought of losing their seats because they’ve pissed off enough pro-indy folk to make them abandon the SNP. Few tears would be shed over the loss of Wishart, Nicolson and most of the other troughers.

Alba has several years to get its house in order. It doesn’t need to aim to replace the SNP in the short to medium term, just to attract enough support to deny them a majority. For Holyrood 2026 it should selectively target SNP constituency MSPs who are the worst offenders or most slavish Sturgeon loyalists and/or Woko Haram extremists.

When ordinary voters start to see the full fat SNP/Green prospectus over the next few years, the imposition of the deeply regressive and misogynistic TRA agenda, the failure to deliver #indyref2, and the continuing failure to deliver anything radical or progressive on education, land reform, drugs policy or anything else they will soon start to desert the SNP. We just need to show that there is a worthwhile alternative.

“Mark Boyle says:
21 August, 2021 at 4:52 pm
“The White Rose Rising Group” – Jesus fking Christ.”

I can’t say I’m a big fan of Peter A. Bell, however at least he’s getting off his arse to try and do something for the indy cause, tell me Mark, what have you done, for the cause that supercedes Bell’s, if nothing then kindly put a sock in it.

@john main.

Don’t know who is telling porkies here.

The proposal to flood Scottish islands with Afghani immigrants is not a new concept. Indeed some years ago there was proposal by the UK government to import tens of thousands of Hong Kong emigrants to populate Scottish Islands. At the time is was mooted that it would create islands of entrepreneurial excellence – which says a lot about what certain folks in Westminster think about existing Scots and Scotland.

Suffice to say the proposal went nowhere but the sentiment is still extant – and indeed extant in bro Humza Yousaf’s mind since he is reiterating it.

Maybe, and I joke a little, but just maybe Humza would like to see the offshore Scottish islands as some kind of Caliphates in the making.

Who knows though. We live in wild outrageous times where the only thing that is certain is that there are forces that utterly want to destroy Scotland and its potential for independence.

O/T more inappropriate application of “rules” to Craig Murray reported by the Rev today:
– his letters are opened and given to him minus their envelopes. So he can’t reply if sender’s address is only on the envelope.
– Craig isn’t allowed stamps nor books, magazines – fear of them being soaked in drugs, apparently. As if.
– his emails are printed out i.e. he can’t read and reply on a laptop.

I suggest we start writing to the prison governor David Abernethy to tell him what we think and suggest he adjust the clearly inappropriate “rules” including the ludicrous one of Craig having to wear a prison track suit when his family visits him. Plus query why Craig hasn’t seen a doctor yet.

Paul says:

“A national party with no interest in self-determination and a green party with no time for the environment.

“A marriage made in the heaven of convenience and utility.”

Exactly what I was thinking, Paul.

Or, in other words, a match made in hell for the rest of us.

Wee monkey.
It started a long time ago, going backwards in time line we can observe.

In ground gained by methods disguised as easing problems for working parents. Child care support. Replacing grandparents and aunties care.

Placing older people in care homes as young adults/parents had no time for each other at the end of their day. Never mind parents. Or vice versa for working grandparents.

The encouragement of setting up young single mothers into council houses often further away and replacing parents support.

And before that, deliberately taking out [ local ] employment, as locals losing local employment meant having to raise early to travel to work miles away and arrive back at home late in the day or early evening just as children went to bed.

Closing down high street amenities, , garages, bakers, public toilets, ironmongers, greengrocers, haberdashery, high street banks, news agents butchers, street car parking spaces,

post offices, high business rates, and taxes for local businesses, electrical shops, local pubs,
And it began with closing down railways branches as far back as the late 60s.

The new minimum wage is also the new maximum wage for the future
.

It has been a slow and steady regression to withdraw a lifestyle that had improved for the average man/woman and child in the town or country after WW2.

Now why would the leaders of countries want to go backwards?

At present the NHS system we payed for through our wage packets all those years is being destroyed. and our pensions we payed for through our earnings is being raided, or manipulated as supposed government money.

Meanwhile the tax breaks are going solely to big cooperations, big food chains, big pharmaceutical companies, energy companies, etc.

None of these changes that place people, families, villages, towns Or country at a distinct disadvantage are there by accident or error.
As that would be to numerous in numbers to be accidents and errors for any government to say they made a mistake.
And then not rectify them.

We only need a climate change mantra to take us back to the late 1800s, to complete the picture of regression backwards for common people.
Whereby the rich will continue to live to a high standard of transport, eating well, holiday travel around the world through exemptions.

Meanwhile the well to do do not discourage flying large jets from contaminating the sky, do not away with their mobile phones, or say no to Branson or bezos to experience-holiday flights to outer space using gas tanks of fuel, nor do they safely dispose of nuclear weapons, stop bombing countries to Smitherians,

Everything that is being changed is for us.
Eroding the cohesive bond that family, neighbours, friends, and workmates had will make the objections to these changes much easier for governments to handle and knock down as single or small group protests.
As they recently did with 1950s women and their pensions.
Along with worker inability to now go through unions to have a fair hearing.

REALITY can seem like having a good moan about bad things,

But REALITY is having a bad moan about the good things that is fast disappearing.

James Che. says:
21 August, 2021 at 8:25 pm

Quote. “Wee monkey.

It started a long time ago, going backwards in time line we can observe.

In ground gained by methods disguised as easing problems for working parents. Child care support. Replacing grandparents and aunties care.

Placing older people in care homes as young adults/parents had no time for each other at the end of their day. Never mind parents. Or vice versa for working grandparents.

The encouragement of setting up young single mothers into council houses often further away and replacing parents support.

And before that, deliberately taking out [ local ] employment, as locals losing local employment meant having to raise early to travel to work miles away and arrive back at home late in the day or early evening just as children went to bed.

Closing down high street amenities, , garages, bakers, public toilets, ironmongers, greengrocers, haberdashery, high street banks, news agents butchers, street car parking spaces,

post offices, high business rates, and taxes for local businesses, electrical shops, local pubs,
And it began with closing down railways branches as far back as the late 60s.

The new minimum wage is also the new maximum wage for the future
.

It has been a slow and steady regression to withdraw a lifestyle that had improved for the average man/woman and child in the town or country after WW2.

Now why would the leaders of countries want to go backwards?

At present the NHS system we payed for through our wage packets all those years is being destroyed. and our pensions we payed for through our earnings is being raided, or manipulated as supposed government money.

Meanwhile the tax breaks are going solely to big co-operations, big food chains, big pharmaceutical companies, energy companies, etc.

None of these changes that place people, families, villages, towns Or country at a distinct disadvantage are there by accident or error.
As that would be to numerous in numbers to be accidents and errors for any government to say they made a mistake.
And then not rectify them.

We only need a climate change mantra to take us back to the late 1800s, to complete the picture of regression backwards for common people.
Whereby the rich will continue to live to a high standard of transport, eating well, holiday travel around the world through exemptions.

Meanwhile the well to do do not discourage flying large jets from contaminating the sky, do not away with their mobile phones, or say no to Branson or bezos to experience-holiday flights to outer space using gas tanks of fuel, nor do they safely dispose of nuclear weapons, stop bombing countries to Smitherians,

Everything that is being changed is for us.
Eroding the cohesive bond that family, neighbours, friends, and workmates had will make the objections to these changes much easier for governments to handle and knock down as single or small group protests.
As they recently did with 1950s women and their pensions.
Along with worker inability to now go through unions to have a fair hearing.

REALITY can seem like having a good moan about bad things,

But REALITY is having a bad moan about the good things that is fast disappearing.”

Can’t disagree with any of that.

Recently read a lovely wee book by Ronald Blythe called ‘Voices of Akenfield’.

It’s testimony from people who lived and/or worked in the Suffolk village, and was first published in 1969.

One of the chapters is by a district nurse who, I assume, was working in the 20s and 30s, certainly well before the NHS was established. It’s sobering stuff. She had to travel all over the area, was admitted right into the heart of families, usually working alone, and helped the people endure every ailment imaginable.

At one point, she remarks, almost as a by-the-way, how it was not unusual to find elderly people being kept in cupboards. And this wasn’t considered ‘cruel’ – it was just practical, because they were taking up too much space and there was nowhere else for them to go.

I’m only writing this because some earlier comments tonight have mentioned the NHS, and social cohesion of different sorts, and I’ve been thinking about that stuff a lot since reading that book. The fact that my own old dear is just about clinging to independent living via sheltered housing is also a factor, no doubt, but the horrible hairy-arsed fact is that many of us have relied on the NHS to do the hard stuff that we can’t, or simply won’t do, and that’s not sustainable, or fair.

Thirty, forty years ago, it wasn’t unusual to have a ‘granny’ as a permanent fixture in the recess of the main room. Now? Folk don’t expect to have to bear that burden and would really struggle, big-time, if it was suddenly landed on them.

I’m not saying that we should have to deal with that burden – and fuck knows I couldn’t countenance the idea of my old dear living here permanently – but I wonder sometimes if we really are honest about our relationship with the NHS.

Tricky stuff.

Quite right Dan at 8.24.

What a splendid idea. Let’s all learn Pashto. I mean what better a time to do so. No doubt Bro Humza in his brief as health minister will have developed plans, mandatory plans for swathes of us to have to learn Pashto. To not do so would I suspect be a Hate Crime.

Mind you when Pashto meets LGBTIQ++ what will we get.

Ah, Dan, You need a string constitution of stoicism and a sense of humour or you’d go off your head. But as someone once said, those who the gods would destroy they first make mad.

Saffron robe.

I to have read those at the top of our society whom believe we will reach the mark of over population and therefore will be a strain on food resources.

(1) At the moment Scotland is under populated due to many believes of invaders of Scotland, pre the middle of the 1600s Scotland had a much higher population, even if they were poor. Many were ship of to the new colonies as indentured slaves.
Now due to lack of employment the rest have been a voluntary migration.

(2) who chose’s the section of people causing the over population, the leaders at big world events is where I first heard the depopulation of the planet.
However it is interesting to learn that the Downey south wizard ruling the kingdom at the moment has produced many children he does not recognise or support.
The crownie wizards had 5 offspring…plus many unaccounted for,
And the speaker one for them has six offspring.

Now who decides which members of society should be culled.

@Robert Hughes (11.30) –

Aye, it’s difficult stuff, and it certainly doesn’t help that the NHS, as a ‘national treasure’, has been fetishized to the point where any criticism of it – as an institution, or any individual who happens to work for it – has become virtually taboo.

All very dispiriting, and I apologise for the negativity, but it feels like we are in seriously dangerous times now, and nothing – not even our sainted health service – is beyond suspicion.

“New Zealand is an open air Concentration Camp.”

Some of my mates live there, but they seem quite content with her leadership. How so?

With regard to the picture of the Press Conference that opens the article above …

Why is Nicola wearing a tiara? Has she transgendered into the Pope? Or maybe just into an effigy of the Pope? (If so, it might not be one her best ideas – effigies are always in danger of getting burned down in this great land of the free; and maybe especially that particular one.)

And is she so out-of-date that she doesn’t know that the Pope no longer wears his tiara. And hasn’t done so for years (John Paul II never used it, and neither has any Pope since then.) Did someone steal it from the Vatican Museum to present it to her?

And, although her glamour adviser makes sure she eschews hats, did she really take a shine to this one? ‘I do fancy a wee bit of that old man’s tiara…’, or something like. ‘Suits down to the ground – or rather Up to the Heavens!’

Is this all part of the New Transgender Policies of the New Government Coalition (since that’s what it is, While-Pretending-Not-to-Be-One, so that the Greens can still continue to milk the Holyrood cow for as much as they can possibly get out of it)?

Is this the next campaign on Nicola’s rise to international stardom, taking over the oldest multi-national in the world? And turning it into a TRANS-National?

In other words, Nicola for Pope!

Is this the new campaign that was launched yesterday? Not for Indyref 2, but for World Domination by Nic the Infallible? You must admit you have to admire it: the Lady’s ambition (she did say that ‘her’ was her pronoun) really has no limits.

Just imagine: Pope Nicola the Numpteenth! Has a kind of ring to it, don’t you think? Will she be the first in a line of Infallible Numpties who will transgender the Papacy itself? Leader of the A-team that will impose their A-gend-A on the whole wide world. Long live the new Dogma of A-Genderism where there will be No Gender At All, just like A-theism got rid of God by saying there was No God At All. Just like A-Gnosticism – with apolgies to all my agnostic friends, no offence intended – literally means Not Knowing Anything At All.

From A-Gnosticism to A-theism to A-Genderism – this is pure and simple logic. Like elementary arithmetic, in fact. The Abolition-of-God + The Abolition-of-Knowledge = the Abolition-of-Gender! (And, all together, it leads to the Abolition not just of Gender, but also the Abolition of Sex and Procreation, and of all links and connection between them!)

Maybe (with apologies to John Wesley!) we can call it Dis-Connexionalism!

Or, to adapt a slogan (with apologies to E.M. Foster, when he was a Passage-Boy to Ibdia) … ‘Only Disconnect’!

To go back to the wonderfully staged set design for the picture… Besides the Lady crowned with the chandelier-styled tiara taking centre stage, look at her flankers (set up so that the eye remains focused on her). Who was the genius who choreographed this whole performance? Put him/her/it on your unending pay-roll Nic – he has done you proud!

Oh! You already have done, you say? I didn’t realise it was her … ‘Oor Liz’, you say, if I am hearing you right! Your Liz, whom you have depLloyd to such wonderful effect… What a strategist: I should have guessed it must be her. Behind the picture, I mean.

To get back to the flankers – with an ‘fl’ – I don’t just mean the two St. Andrews flags, carefully draped Boris-style and hanging down on either side of you to keep the focus firmly fixed on … well, on YOU, of course. I mean the two other perfectly positioned fl ankers, both of them half-in the picture and half-out of it. This keeps the focus just right, with the one BigWit in the middle and the two HalfWits on either side of her.

What a fantastic choreographer you have, Nic, working so well for you. You can’t have three BigWigs after all: there can only be One that Dominates. But one Biggie with tow sidekicks comes across as just right for a govenment that’s going to replace God with itself after all. Especially if it’s the Christian – and Jewish – God it’s replacing. The one that made male and female, and thought it ‘very good’. That Old Fogey, who got it all wrong, is now to be a Gonner, having transmogrified into his replacement: BigNic and the Twa Bairns. (Still some kind of threesome, so at least the Christians should be pleased, shouldn’t they?)

(Otherwise known, someone is telling me over my shoulder, as ‘KnowS*ite and the Green Dwarfs!’)

And look at these two on either side of Big Her, the hero of the tale the picture tells, with their pint-sized desks compared to her Really Big One. She of the two microphones (everything flanks her) while they only have one wee one each.

And the positioning – the visibility – just wonderful: what a genius for symbolism. On one side one leg, on the other side another leg, and in the middle – de-genderisation personified – the central character has no legs at all.

Look at the leg to our left – a trousered leg? Does that symbolize maleness? Even manhood? Wow! But even if it does, does that necessarily mean the person inside the trouser is actually a male? ‘Maybe Aye, Maybe Naw’, as Kenny Dalgliesh would say.

Now, look above him, and behind him (above and behind the Trousered-Leg One, that is). What do you see? No tiara for him? No chandelier either: he/she/it or whatever is NOT the light of the world, not even of this little press-friendly choreographed world of the picture. Instead, there is, precisely, ‘The Portrait of a Lady.’
And who is that Lady? I’m not sure, but I think it might be Flora MacDonald… Don’t you?

And look at what’s above the head of the person, apparently female (although it could always be a disguise) on the opposite side of the picture. Yet another painting… This time, as far as I can see it, of a man. And who does this man look like? Well, I might be wrong, but doesn’t he resemble one Bonnie Prince Charlie…

Now keep looking to your right, to the other Bairn, the one underneath the portrait of the Bonnie Prince (the bigger of the two Dwarfs but not big enough to compete with our central character, no matter how horsily she flings her (or whatever pronoun is preferred) head and her hair in the air. And look at that ‘other leg’ protruding to our right, tucked against the mini-podium which stands there… That is, look, and see the leg that wears a skirt. Is that a symbol of femaleness? Even of womanhood? Maybe. But even if it is, does it mean the possessor of that leg is actually a female? A full-blooded woman? Well, maybe. But then again, maybe not! Who knows? In this Transgendered world everything is possible. And ‘nothing is impossible’ to this new governing trinity which now rules Scotland, under Little Miss Biggie.

Again, such perfect symbolism. Most folk (with apologies for the use of religious language) are blessed to have two legs, but these two are only showing one leg each. Not shyly, but a bit ‘coquette’ all the same, don’t you think?

Or, to put it another way, here too we have two legs, but each of them belongs to a different person. A trousered leg on one side, and a skirted leg on the other.

And – maybe this is the key point – between these two one-legged creatures at the two sides of the picture, there in the middle, beaming and crowned with her tiara, supreme in all her splendour, stands the One behind the Giant Podium, the One-With-No-Legs at all….

What subtlety this symbolism is! But what does it mean?

Does it mean that the one with the trousered leg we see has a skirted leg we don’t see? And maybe … just maybe … at the other extremity, does the skirted leg we do see have a trousered leg we do not see?

Or does all this mean that the two – one trousered and one skirted – have become one, at long last, in the beaming, crowned and legless person behind the central podium? This triune icon, centred on the Middle Person, Scotland’s Saviour(ess), says so much, and tells us what our future is to be. That future in which all knowledge, every gender and God Himself will have been abolished; everything will have been brought into one in the glorious person in the middle; that is, in the one with the glorious tiara whose brilliant light shines up to Heaven and whose invisible feet never touch the floor, aided by her minions to the left and right of her (/him/ it /whatever).

And us? All of us? Yes, we will have been transmogrified, all of us, into that central lime-lighted person’s genderless image, now and for always, for ever and ever, AMEN.

Sexless, genderless, and personless, all our freedoms will be gone. For ever.

There have been false ideologies before. There have been heresies and heresiarchs before. There have been anti-Popes before. This is not the first time in history that Evil has stalked the corridors of power, presenting itself as an Angel of Light. Scotland has been turned inside out before, with all her essence and her core values being betrayed by those who purported and pretended to defend them. But all these ‘befores’ are as nothing compared to what is coming afterwards; that is to what is coming now.

And what is coming now will stop at nothing – absolutely nothing – to achieve its perverted aims and goals. It may be incredible to us that this is happening in Scotland, of all place – BUT IT IS. It may be incredible to us that just when we were on the cusp of achieving and regaining our cherished independence, it has all been turned around against us and against the very notion of Scotland itself – BUT IT HAS. We may feel as if we are in total disarray, staring calamity in the face, as if Scotland’s enemies are about to finally dissolve her and gain the complete victory that always eluded them, BUT THAT IS HOW IT SEEMED IN 1304. And in 1306, Robert Bruce was crowned, and despite initial defeats and apparent disaster, the abolished nation rose like a phoenix from its own ashes, AND THAT IS WHAT MUST HAPPEN NOW.

It is not just Scotland’s fate that is at stake. This is a global, world-wide fight, at a key historical moment for humanity. Scotland looks as if she has already been captured by the enemy, and will be at the forefront of the barbarity that is to follow. IT IS UP TO US, IN THIS SMALL AND SEEMINGLY IRRELEVANT BUT ALWAYS HIGHLY SIGNIFICANT PLACE, TO START THE BACKLASH, AND BEGIN TURN IT ALL AROUND.

It is not just our independence that is at stake but, together with that independence, something much deeper, and of global significance. Scotland is not a backwater, and never has been, though anti-Scottish propagandists have always wanted us to believe that it is, and done their damnedest to convince us of that lie. All lies must be resisted, and we are in the midst of the biggest of these. This is a global fight, and we are in the midst of it. Time to stand up, and resist by every acceptable means. When you are the victim of lies and injustice and terrific violence, even verbal, you must not employ the same means in your defence. We are going to have to use our imagination, it will require subtlety and perseverance and belief in the fundamental rightness of the cause; it won’t be easy but it can be done. No one should despair.

As a footnote to the above, the set-up of the press conference as pictured above, is very deliberate and revealing. Whoever conjured it up thought through every detail. There is nothing in it by accident. This is stage set; and stage sets already tell you plenty about the drama that is about to unfold on them.

If I am right – and I admit I might not be – that the two 18th or 19th Century portraits on either side are of Flora MacDonald and Bonnie Prince Charlie, these historical figures have been incorporated into the new narrative the SNP-Green arrangement intends to impose on us in a way that would have been totally inimical to these historical characters. Charles Edward Stuart escaped dressed up as a woman, as Flora MacDonald’s maid-servant. You can immediately see what kind of icon the Green-SNP alliance will make of that one! They will have no compunction about re-writing history – that is perverting it, and turning it into a pack of lies – to suit their agenda, and brainwash children. The SNP already proved that they had no qualms about such authoritarian practices when they set about erasing Alex Salmond from the history of their own Party.

Lies breed lies, more and more of them, one after the other, the next still more brazen than the last. Resistance means sticking up for the truth, even when it hurts, and never letting go of it. We are already far down the slippery slope, but we do not have to continue down it further. It is imperative that we do not.

I have noticed there has been a great deal of HYPOCRISY been shown by the purveyors and promoters of the civic nationalist shite , it appears the civic nationalists are NOT so civic nationalists when it comes to their views being ignored or overruled by the all inclusive NEW SCOTS that we should be grateful too for choosing our wonderful country

Apparently NEW SCOT Mridul Wadhwa from India and NEW SCOT green MSP Lorna Slater who is from Canada I think and who was elected as a MSP with 36 votes are causing some anger and resentment from the civic nationalists because they are more interested in pushing their own views of what constitutes a woman and are DETERMINED that those views will take precedence over any objections from indigenous Scots

Those NEW SCOTS are favoured and revered by the ruling junta so much so that the ruling junta ensures that Mridul a man who has NO GRC and who is the Chief Executive of Edinburgh Rape Crisis is generously funded by Scots deluded taxpayers through the SG

And NEW SCOT Lorna with her 36 votes will probably be awarded a ministerial post in the power sharing SNP and Green SG

But it appears that these examples of civic nationalism towards NEW SCOTS is NOT what OUR civic nationalists on WOS believe the term means
BUT again they should be aware of Sturgeons meaning of civic nationalism and inclusion when she opened up a SG consultation on GRA which would only impact the WOMEN of Scotland to views and opinions from vested interest parties from around the world

James Che. says:
22 August, 2021 at 2:48 am
I suppose if you wish to CULL the human population without being to obvious, there are a few ways to do this…

I wouldn’t do anything as drastic as culling any human population, but the exorbitant rise in human population is unsustainable in the long run. We are emptying the seas of fish, clearing the birds from the sky, virtually every species known to us has it’s existence impacted by the ubiquitous loss of natural habitat, even the insects are dying out because of us… and all to accommodate our insatiable greed for Earth’s resources. Jeezo, even the atmosphere is being altered by us.

Humanity needs to live within it’s means. And I mean it needs to, not treat the matter as a lifestyle choice.

It isn’t adequate or acceptable to reduce our natural environment to pockets or enclaves of wilderness where species cannot easily find breeding partners. The expansion of the human environment comes close to desertification for other species, typically with the apex predators taken out early doors until the whole ecosystem collapses and cannot recover.

I don’t know what the answer is, and I don’t know if we have it in us to do it, but life is being reduced to existence for people, and life reduced to survival for critters. The animal kingdom is already holding on pockets, like vault dwellers trying to survive it’s Apocalypse. Their extinction level event is already happening, for many species it has already happened, and unfortunately “we” are it.

I have an increasingly forlorn hope that an Independent Scotland would lead the way in rewilding our natural habitat, and resurrecting the globally unique phenomenon of the Great Caledonian Forest, complete with it’s apex predators, wolves, bears, eagles, and massive salmon in our rivers.

If the return of apex predators is incompatible with our farming methods, for God’s sake change the farming methods. Change our behaviour. And if the consequence of that is that it’s harder to feed ourselves, then so be it, we regulate our population to the point we can feed ourselves.

If humanity is reduced to feeding itself by over processed “test tube” foodstuffs, you kinda have to wonder whether we’re doing it right, and whether life is / was a much richer experience when people are closer to nature.

I don’t mean close the supermarkets and force everybody to survive Ray Mears style, or wringing the necks of their own chickens, but recognise both of those options are extremes on the spectrum, and we need to find a happier point in the middle somewhere.

Housing should not be a currency or commodity to generate wealth.

A house is your access to sanctuary, refuge, and a modicum of self security, and nobody should want for that. Our homes should be child friendly and oldies friendly, and Tories, property speculators or buy to let landlords should be forced to look elsewhere for a stellar income. Housing should be flat and unprofitable investment which is not treated as a business until it’s top end.

I see, thanks to Friday’s agreement between the Sturgeon National Party and the Scottish Greens, we have been promised an Independence Referendum: “Within five years.”

That means, we will be going to the polls on Independence, by 20 August, 2026 – which, as I type this, is 1824 days away.

However, we are told (from what happened on the lead-in to the 2014 Referendum) that it takes around nine months to set-up a Referendum. Nine months is approximately 275 days, so that gives them 1549 days of wriggle room.

However, since the Scottish Parliament only actually meets for around 110-120 days per calendar year – the coallition only has around 490 days in which to get the appropriate legislation through Holyrood.

Sturgeon really is backing herself into a corner on this one – she will need to stop talking and start doing – quickly – or be seen for the waste of space many of us consider her to be.

David 2.18

You wrote “ Our political leaders need to be reminded that Scotland wants independence, and that we expect them to focus on achieving it.”

I don’t mean to be picky, but there is no evidence that “Scotland wants Independence”. The Revs recent graph shows (other than a couple of polls) that Scotland doesn’t want Independence.

As I may have mentioned a few times, that is probably the reason that Ms Sturgeon isn’t currently pushing for indyref2. And, if indyref2 was to be run anytime soon, the Yessers would, in my view, be defeated substantially… and the dream shelved or 25 years at least.

You need powerful, inspirational, compelling arguments to convex current No voters to change their minds. I haven’t heard anything of the sort I’m afraid.

All some of them have to do is resign from the snp and become independent

Union of twats scuppered

All things must pass

Sturgeon and her crappy pals in the green party will
eventually disappear and die a natural death and decay,
yes, even a load of shite eventually passes away

Sensibledave,
Of course people in Scotland w@nt independence, you have no proof whatsoever that people in Scotland don’t want independence.
One of us must be wrong, so why not have a referendum to find out?

Would you not like to find out or are you concerned that your preferred choice for Scotland’s future may be altered?

Yes, we know you say you don’t care what Scotland votes for and blaa, blaa, blaa.

@holymacmoses – A great post. Whilst I wouldn’t call Stuart Campbell uplifting, his absence is sorely missed at the moment.

@Willie 21 August, 2021 at 7:39 pm

Thanks for the clarification.

So the alleged statement from the alleged SNP spokesperson about “Not one single ounce of compassion from the UK Government” for the Afghan refugees is a porkie.

TBH, I suspected that to be the case. No SNP government wonk would depart so far from the party line, and use regressive, imperial units of measure.

If the alleged statement had started “Not one single gram …” it might have carried some plausibility.

O/T, but related to your other information.

The Hong Kong Chinese have a track record of taking barren, worthless, offshore islands and turning them into a mega-rich industrial and financial powerhouse. In theory, we have plenty of barren, worthless, offshore islands of our own, so I would certainly be up for letting somebody else have a try at making some money from them. Alas, the analogy does not stand close scrutiny. HK sits offshore from a vast hinterland with hundreds of millions of industrious people, largely free of the rules and regulations that hold us back, and all of the natural resources of a continent-sized country.

The Afghans have a solid track record in fighting for and achieving the independence of their country in the teeth of what always looks like overwhelmingly disadvantageous odds, so most people would think the Scots Indy movement would welcome them with open arms as exemplars of how to revitalise the Indy cause. But then again, that’s the Afghans who have stayed in Afghanistan to take control of and run their own affairs.

The Afghan refugees who come here will be from the losing side. Perhaps they can teach the Scots Indy movement some lessons in what not to do when fighting to establish your country as a free, sovereign, independent nation.

cirsium @10:19pm

Lawson’s “Destroying the Yes movement” was an excellent way of framing the current situation. It captured all the inaction and subterfuge in a way that was crystal clear and damning. Even if it’s not 100% true it’s a charge that needs to be answered. I’d say, for that reason, it’s one of the more important posts from the indy bloggers.

Having said that, I stopped reading halfway through and skimmed the rest. The reason was that it was just more “SNP Baaaad”. If I want to read “Baaaad” I’ll just head over to WGD.

I’m still a fan of Lawson for two reasons. First, he lifted the lid on several cans of worms that opened the eyes of a lot of people to what the SNP had become. Second, he’s slightly less to the left than many of the other bloggers and I think that’s important as without a broader political base, independence isn’t coming. However I no longer read his posts as soon as I see them published. I hope he gets back to his old form as quickly as possible.

JimuckMac says:
22 August, 2021 at 11:11 am
Theoretically, all 7 billion of us could easily fit in a Texas-sized city

Some theories can be tested: some can’t.:-)

Listening to Barrheadboy’s podcast, and they just had a quip I picked up on… about “Both Votes SNP” so the SNP could do a deal with Greens, and end up with a dominant Constituency Party augmented by a List Seat Party, which is in fact Alex Salmond’s ALBA strategy, which the SNP indignantly rebuffed.

So much for “Both Votes SNP” with “the greens” in small print. .Why didn’t they embrace the Greens before the Election?

Far more likely that Sturgeon is expecting trouble with her GRA reforms and pressure on party discipline, and it’s that, certainly not Independence, that needs emergency shoring up.

Meanwhile, the ALBA conference is looking to be very positive and constructive. It’s been many months since I’ve felt anything approaching cautious optimism, but some of the things I hear from ALBA feel like rays of YES sunshine on a cloudy day.

It’s young, and it’s new, but give it a chance, a wee bit faith, and ALBA will put the smile back on your face and the spring back in your step.

John Main says:
22 August, 2021 at 1:13 pm

“RepublicOfScotland

As is usually the case with your posts, your use of one-sided arguments serves only to repel rational and level-headed readers away from the cause you claim to support.”

It has probably more to do with anyone who hates Jews is okay in his book.