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Cherry unpicking

Posted on February 01, 2021 by

As soon as this happened, this was only ever going to be a matter of days:

It is, of course, all the doing of the transcult. The SNP is a trainwreck, readers, and its leader is a weak-kneed failure. Nobody can claim that we haven’t been warning you.

In so far as this merits any analysis, btw, what it tells us is that Nicola Sturgeon knows her time as First Minister and SNP leader is nearly over, and now just wants to do everything possible to prevent Cherry being her successor, as we told you last week.

We hope that plan too meets with the failure that is Sturgeon’s trademark.

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P

What the actual fk?
Looking forward to your next piece
Hopefully a dissection of information available to you

Alison Watters

I’m now officially as banned from twitter as you are stu for apparently abusing someone when I did no such thing. The SNP has fallen apart

Jacqueline McMillan

NS just keeps pushing and pushing. Not a care in the world. Honest, hard working giants replaced by perverts and weirdos with not even 2 grey cells to rub together.

aulbea1

Ah’m with Joanna Cherry.

Allium

What awful news. I hope JC has supportive friends around her. Insane. I don’t know what else to say.

Alain Mack

All this and Eck next week.Stu…..what odds would you put on the FM resigning before next Tuesday???
Brilliant work again.

Cod

Sadly, not even slightly surprising.

Tannadice Boy

A highly talented legal professional and experienced politician. Sacked from the front bench. The disintegration of the SNP continues apace.

Muscleguy

Yet the SNP loyalists say it’s us upholders of law and probity in public office who are splitting the SNP.

If the party cannot contain someone like Ms Cherry QC then I’m quite sure she will be welcomed by the ISP.

Andy Ellis

It’s now or never for those who want to see the early days of a better nation which reflects the values of good, progressive people like Joanna, rather than regressive pieces of work like those who have traduced her over many months and now stabbed her in the back.

Cherry and those in the party MUST walk out and either join the ISP or form a new party of their own. The SNP is simply beyond redemption. I’d no sooner see them in power now than I would the Tories.

Deeds, not words. Make it happen Joanna – we have little time and given the SNPs direction of travel there is nothing now to lose.

Grey Gull

Disgraceful.

Jacqueline McMillan

We’ll just see the wheat from the chaff now ie which SNP polticians come out in support of Cherry.

NS et al are fucking nasty, feirty bastards

Sue Varley

I think she is trying to burn down the SNP out of bitterness at the failures of their plots against Alex Salmond.

panda paws

Well they’d lost my list vote to ISP, looks like I’ll be self identifying as someone who spoils their constituency ballot paper when the election comes.

m_alc

They harbour hate, those who abhor hate.

How long til Cherry is axed completely? Has there even been a reason given?

Real SNP Supporter

Good, I know a lot of people are wrapped up in an anti-SNP bubble on here. But actions have consequences and JC who literally was defending someone who equated the Holocaust to Trans people. I wouldn’t expect that of the tories, let alone the SNP.

SNP is currently polling higher than ever, we have a collective responsibility to build on that and look forward to an independent future.

Jim

Have the SNP decided they don’t actually even want a minority governmwnt now?
They’ve lost the fuckin plot!

Jacqueline McMillan

I can just visualise all the perverts jumping up and down with glee. Let me tell them all, enjoy it whilst you can. YOU CAN’T KEEP A GOOD DOG DOWN. We will get shot of you all and achieve Independence for our country

Beaker

What on earth is going on with the SNP?

Dave Albiston

If her fellow MPs and MSPs have any interest in independence they should resign the whip. Silence indicates consent.

Cath

In so far as this merits any analysis, btw, what it tells us is that Nicola Sturgeon knows her time as First Minister and SNP leader is nearly over, and now just wants to do everything possible to prevent Cherry being her successor,

At this point I’d be deleting “prevent Cherry being her successor” and replace it with “destroy the SNP and independence movement”.

Robert Dickson

That’s it….the final straw.

Nally Anders

This only highlights that the SNP as we know it is finished. A major split can only be coming now.
Fcking discusted.

Yeti

I feel for her. I really do.

Dave Beveridge

Nicola WOULD tell us the reason but she has to remain fully focused on Covid for now…

Jason Smoothpiece

They have lost the plot. Well ISP or some other New Party of Independence may be looking for a leader.

The bottom line now is the SNP need closed down, I am never sure if the disaster which befell the SNP was due to the intelligence services, if it was good effort folks. Could it be simply they have become the Labour Party.

At the end of the day it matters little it still needs to be put out of it’s misery.

Good luck to Joanna Cherry whatever she decides to do.

I did say I would vote SNP 1 for the last time in May, now not so sure.

susanXX

Disgusting news, the SNP truly is finished. All thanks to a bunch of perverted authoritarian.

Captain Yossarian

Nicola Sturgeon is perhaps borderline psychotic. Many have said that in the past. Is it not the case that many of us now believe it to be true?

I though at one stage she may be removed before Trump, that other borderline psychotic. I am not sure of anything regarding Sturgeon at the moment and neither are any of the rest of us.

Maybe it’s time for James Wolffe to step-up. He has a lot to lose the longer she stays at Bute House.

Jacqueline McMillan

NS laid bare for all to see what a fucking, stinking lizard she is. What a coward and BTW she’s a pervert as well. I don’t hate many people but at the moment she’s in pole position and will be for many a year to come. Architect of her own demise. Nasty coward.

blackhack

Every day, and in every way, it just gets worse and worse.
ISP here I come.

And Spouse

Gutted, however, reminded of the old parable about when things happen.

Good or bad, hard to say!

Stu, do you reckon this is it for NS? I need to place a bet and you the best tipster

Jason Smoothpiece

Dave Albiston @ 1.59pm

Yes you are right Dave the MPs and MSP and Councillors who sit in silence have to take their share of responsibility any decent person within the party should step down to fight for independence in a new party.

Remaining members have to now think if they are happy financing this shower of scum.

Gaavster

This is a car crash… happening in slow motion before our eyes….

Here’s hoping that we are moving into the end game

kapelmeister

Can you be wrapped up in a bubble?

Colin Alexander

Smoothing the path for that Sturgeon ally and fellow colonial administrator – Angus Robertson- to continue where Sturgeon left off.

shug

Nicola is going to have to come to terms with “the truth will out”.

Once she is gone her place in history will be the great betrayer. Lady Macbeth of the 21st century.

The press being silent is very interesting, but they are far from being friends. They are looping a noose round her neck and will pull it before the election.

The sooner Parliament moves to a vote of confidence the better, and our MSP’s can grow some balls and dump her the better.

ELewis

Written to my MP. This is unacceptable.

Captain Yossarian

Will she be replaced by the incisively-minded, astute, well-read and educated Steven Bonar. He’s such an asset, you know.

stuwin

reposted from previous article.
So annoyed – the NEC and their whacky politics are messing with the SNP, and as the main indy party strike at the core of indy. Had enough – cancelled my SNP membership, paraphrasing the above in my closing comment. Plus, icing on the cake they have just sacked Cherry.
Ironically, given that they are the only mainstream indy party they will still get my candidate vote, but my list vote is v. much up for grabs.

Cath

I only approved this comment to remind you that while there are plenty of intelligent people, the SNP is still infested with insane, reality-denying arseholes.

Interestingly, all the high profile pro indy accounts, like Lesley Riddoch, Niel Drysdale, George Keravan are aghast. Meanwhile, there are loads of accounts with few followers based in England who are coming out with that kind of transphobia crap. I’m sure there is still an infestation of such idiots in the SNP too, but make no mistake they are not representative of the yes movement.

Beaker

Twitter’s already going ballistic.

Today’s events might explain why there was silence over the weekend.

Awkward Westie

Well … after today, when we see who gives vocal support to JC, it will be clear who falls into the “good guys” camp and who is only in the SNP for self promotion and niche causes.

So at least we will no longer have to guess if it is too late to save the SNP … we are going to find out one way or the other in the next few hours/days

Geoff Anderson

It reminds me of a petty car thief setting fire to the car in order to hide the evidence.

sog

Who do they have to replace Joanna C?

kapelmeister

Our tanks are just two blocks away from the govt quarter. The Twitler youth and old men like Mike Russell are being expended hopelessly in the fighting. Spear has come to say goodbye to the leader.

Johnny Martin

I see some seem to be trying to say it was Blackford’s decision.

Not having that – he’s merely the branch office manager of London SNP.

Jm

Wow….NS goes full Scorched Earth.

Madness.

We’re very near the end now…and a new beginning.

Alison Brown

Gutted! The best they have – what are they thinking?

Jacqueline McMillan

Angus Robertson ran in front of my car years ago in Leith Walk, presumably on his way to the old HQ. I had to break sharply. Knowing what I know now I wish I hadn’t. Never liked him, never will. Seat warming fuckwit.

SaorsaCat

This is outrageous! The Twitter trans team gleefully peddling vitriol and poison.

The SNP seem to have forgotten they’re the Independence Party and have allowed (encouraged) themselves to become the trans GLBTSTI party.

Jim Tadgercock

That wee idiot no longer surprises me. What a horrible hateful excuse for a human being. I have sent Joanna a message of support but I’m getting scunnered by this now.I hope justice is served and she and her sycophants get the jail.

Dave Beveridge

Sacking Joanna Cheery is like the fitba team refusing to pick John McGinn. Utter, utter madness. Oh well, the end must surely be in sight.

shug

When is the first time parliament call call a vote of confident. Can it be after Salmond’s evidence or do they have to wait for the committee report.

Davy Smith

That was a fucking missed opportunity…

Jacqueline McMillan

Johnny Martin
Yes agree 100%. Blackford doing as the Devil Psycho bids.

Pete

Seems inevitable that Sturgeon won’t last the year now. How long would you give her before she goes, Stu? Before the election or almost immediately after?

Davy Smith

That was directed at Jacqueline. ??

Daisy Walker

The portfolio for justice – in Iain Blackfords ‘reshuffle’ – has gone to Anne McLauchline.

I’m sure she’ll do a great job taking over from a lawyer with decades of experience, including as a Fiscal specialising in sexual offence trials, and one who qualified to QC level and took a wage cut to become an MP.

Sure she will.

Duncan Clark

If anyone has a chance to speak with Mr Salmond, please ask him, no, beg him, to stand up for the country and take down this corrupted mess of an administration.

I’ve got some string, if anyone has some gaffer tape, or glue, we stand a good chance of rebuilding things.

Frank Gillougley

Yes, I think that the era of the SNP as a political party and vehicle for achieving independence is now well and truly dead.
Anyone in the SNP who can’t see the similarities between ‘The death of Stalin’ and what is happening currently in their party are lost.
Watching Lesley Riddoch’s Estonian film, can anyone even imagine seeing 2,000,000 scottish folk of maw paw n the weans forming a human chain for these ideologues in the SNP?
FFS the politburo didnt even turn up for a 100,000 AUOB march!
Do they really think all they have to do is bureaucratise and legislate their way to independence?
I despair at betrayal. I really do.

ella

I hope Joanna stands for Holyrood as an independent. She has a ready made campaign song “Give me Hope Joanna” by Eddy Grant!!

Jacqueline McMillan

Davy Smith

Yes I should have ran the fucker over, it would have been his fault, fat cunt.

TNS2019

This what we wrote yesterday:

“There can be no doubt that Nicola Sturgeon has been fatally wounded by the Salmond inquiry and that discussions are already underway within the SNP regarding her possible successor. There appears to be a very clear strategy to keep Joanna Cherry out of the reckoning and consideration must be given to the timing of Sturgeon’s resignation given the proximity of the May elections.

So the natural choice would seem at first glance to be her current deputy, John Swinney, a “safe pair of hands”

But the recent surge in interest in this website in addition to the correspondence we have received suggest that the revelations about Swinney’s conduct in 2018 and since then could prove terminal to his chances of taking on that leadership role.”

OK. So it was clear for all to see, but we suspect that more than Cherry was decided over the weekend.

link to tns2019.org

Linda McFarlane

Joanna Cherry is the very best of them.

I hope all those spineless Mp’s, MSP’s and self identifying woko harams are reading this. You have all just bitten off more than you can chew. You must be terrified of the truth coming out re Alex Salmond. Decent sane men and women will not stand for this.

I fought for my sex based rights and I will not give them up, without a bigger fight, especially to a bunch of cheating, lying science deniers who are prepared to break the law to get your twisted gender stereotypes imposed.

Dan

The Quickening…

Nosey

I’m totally finished with them, till she’s gone and taken a lot of the shit with her. + her wee sleekit baldy makeshift husband I’m fkn raging

Craig Sheridan

4 in my household are SNP members. I can’t actually believe we’re now seriously considering changing that. I’ve loved the SNP for the whole of my adult life and I’m 50. I’m disgusted and let down. I now have absolutely no hesitation in saying Nicola Sturgeon must go and it must be ASAP.

Grouse Beater

I flagged the warning on Wings a day ago:

SCURRILOUS LETTER

‘I have seen evidence of a letter circulating among, what I categorise as Alyn Smith clones, demanding the First Minister put an end to the career of the Right Honorable Joanna Cherry MP QC forthwith (hanged and then a trial), for – and I quote – “transphobia and anti-Semitism’, the latter scam the same gross falsehood stuck on my Jewish heritage by unfit-for-any-office Robertson, a calumny the SNP tries hard to ignore.’

Scott

I’ve seen the suggestion that Joanna should leave the SNP, remain as an Independent MP and possibly get elected on the list to the Scottish Parliament.

To me that would just give the Murrells exactly what they want: Removing her as a political rival and ensuring that she will never lead the Party.

We sadly still need the SNP in order to achieve independence and the day will come when the Murrells are gone. Joanna is our best hope of reclaiming the party in order to get it back on track. She needs to stay and fight like hell!

Marydoll

Im not surprised but that was definitely cutting off your nose to spite your face. Joanna is my MP and now I hope she becomes an MAP for Edinburgh central to spite the expected successor and maybe even FM. Nicola ……you are toast!

Jeannie McCrimmon

Kenny MacAskill, Joan Mcalpine & Angus MacNeil are the only SNP politicians to call out SNP and stand by Joanna Cherry.

The new frontbench are silent on reshuffle as they back slap each other on appointments

Marydoll

MSP not MAP

Mac

Nicola knows she is done that is now very clear. The mask is now slipping badly as she sees her end approaching and she no longer cares if we see the real her. Lashing out like a cornered animal.

If the last six years are anything to go by Sturgeon will likely inflict as much damage as she can before she goes (scorched earth).

And then as a final act politically detonate herself somehow in the middle of the independence movement. Maybe try to take down Alex Salmond again for the umpteenth time on the way down.

One thing is for sure she will make out she is the victim somehow as she leaves the SNP in ruins.

laukat

Looks like Kenny MacAskill and Angus MacNeil have also been removed from the front bench. MacAskill has alrealdy tweeted his support for Cherry.

I hope this is because they and Cherry are about to create their own party. If those 3 plus Salmond unite we might just have a way forward.

Bob Mack

Yet there are those who tell me that everything is expendable to achieve Independence. They may well believe that, but Nicola Sturgeon clearly does not. It seems her problem children are more worthy of protection than is the cohesion of the yes movement.

Makes you think.

Tannadice Boy

So who is going to be our Cassius Chaerea? Step up to the mark, mainstream sensible SNP politicians before Incitatus is put forward as an MSP candidate. Sturgeon said she would bring down the house. We believe you Nicola you don’t have to prove it.

Betsy

They’ve replaced Cherry with Anne McLaughlin?! That waste of space was over promoted the minute it found employment above the rank of human draught excluder!

Marydoll

The SNP MPs are cowards and hopefully their settling in at Westminster will be over. The MAPs shouldn’t feel safe either!

Davie Oga

Real SNP Supporter says:
1 February, 2021 at 1:55 pm

“SNP is currently polling higher than ever, we have a collective responsibility to build on that and look forward to an independent”

No you’re not. The SNP are polling at a lower percentage than at this time in 2016. You have been repeatedly warned of the foolish notion that persisting with your criminal, honourless, incompetent leadership would end in disaster.

Eileen Carson

Does Nicola honestly believe her ‘popularity’ in the polls will convert to votes? Asking for 40,000 ex SNP members

Patsy Millar

Oh ffs. I’d only just finished reading and responding to the previous ‘What you didn’t hear’ and now this.
Sh**, sh**, sh**

David

Hey Jacqueline McMillan @ 2:17 and 2:22pm – you’ve taken it too far.
Writing about deliberately running someone over is never a good look.

Iain Lawson

Look on the bright side, now she will maybe have time to represent those of us prepared to take the NEC to court. Silver linings and all that!

Captain Yossarian

TNS2019 – You are a recent contributor to this website as am I. Your advice based upon your experience is: ‘don’t look to Swinney to solve your problems’.

I can only agree.

Because of John Swinney, Scotland’s public bodies have been filled with SNP place men and women and no longer work in the public interest.

How do you control the legal profession in Scotland?….. Pay them large sums of money to do nothing. Works every time.

Swinney should be swept out of Holyrood at the same time as Sturgeon. This is corruption on a grand scale and it will take many years for Scotland to recover from it.

Hatuey

Cameron McNeish
@CameronMcNeish
·
25m
Replying to
@Michex69
,
@LesleyRiddoch
and
@theSNP
Agree. Nicola, Ian Blackford and others have completely lost the plot. I was challnged a few minutes ago for saying minority groups posed a real threat to the solidarity of
@theSNP
. That now exactly what’s happened.

SilverDarling

link to snp.org

Mhairi Black “Shadow Scottish Secretary”

Joanna Cherry replaced by Anne McLaughlin! What a joke.

Pathetic,vengeful useless bunch of liggers.

Jacqueline McMillan

laukat

Really?? Unsurprising anyway 🙁

mike cassidy

What a coincidence

The first day of LGBQT+ history month

That’s some serious pandering to the transfantasists

Lorna Campbell

Are you elected representatives going to stand back and let this happen?

Charlie

Astonishing, isn’t it. Joanna has been advocating for nothing more or less than upholding women’s existing rights in law. To do so, she stated it was necessary to carefully consider what impact GRA reform may have on existing legislation. (Hardly revolutionary for a lawyer to argue that new legislation must be carefully written so as to avoid unintended harms.)

After the FM and all the others in the SNP who endorse and promote transgender ideology and legislation categorically denied that there was any conflict at all between the two, to now declare this to be transphobia is to confirm that the SNP leadership considers women’s existing legal rights to be detrimental to people who identify as trans.

I can only hope that my local candidate distances himself from these machinations. Otherwise I will not vote for him again.

Andrew Sinclair

And Boris Johnson and Jacob Reese Mogg are laughing their socks off as they high-5 each other celebrating the removal of the only politician in Westminster who stood up to them.

This is the most bone headed decision the SNP has ever taken in my lifetime.

Geoff Anderson

As the Rev pointed out earlier, they don’t think ahead.
The insult was to provoke a reaction. Anything which could remove her from the field of play.

They think they can outsmart her???

Hatuey

Lesley Riddoch
@LesleyRiddoch
·
45m
This is bloody ridiculous

winifred mccartney

Someone has to tell the snpqueen she has no clothes – outrage
please make new indy party with alex and blow these clowns away

GlenIslay

The last thing the SNP needed to do was give credence to Craig Murrays accusations regarding the Murrellsbeing power mad to the point that they’d blow off their feet with a thermonuclear shotgun in order to settle scores.

Yet they go and do it anyway. The stupidity astounds me.

She was sacked because, like Salmond before her, she was a threat to their power. That’s the crux of it.

100%Yes

It’s the Murrells who should be sacked.

Allium

Anne McLaughlin?? Holy smoke. That is very, very, very funny. Top marks to the troll who chose her, and my gratitude to her for accepting. I mean. Anne McLaughlin. Oh. Just. Wow.

John WALSH

Having read Trotsky and Lennon, this is just natural politics playbook.
But I have watched ThE SNP been infested by a Transcultural group, and are destroying the only party that gave them head space.
How can a small cohort of people manage globally cause so much mayhem ?
Sturgeon has potentially sacrificed 40,000 women’s votes for what.
What will happen to the Wokie when she is gone. ?

John Jones

Jacqueline McMillan says
I don’t hate nayone it’s just a waste of my valuable time,not a lot left, I just feel very sorry for people like NS and cohorts what a lot they’re missing in life.
Don’t get me wrong I’m not ane of those tree hugging types/born again Christians that forgives all and turns the other cheek.
I believe in karma and am quite sure that what ever these idiots try will come back and bite them severely.
Not any point in trying to save the SNP any longer, if it was an animal you would put it out of its misery, pehaps that would be the kindest thing that could happen, then we could get on with building a new party knowing what misyakes to avoid.
There are other parties out there starting to build what I hope are going to be real independence drivers, I don’t know of any officials within the SNP I could support, the old saying “if you fly with the crows you get shot with the crows” I believe is very apt, where are all the “good guys” who are not appearing above the parapet?
It seems that they have to be forced into some form of action before they move, sorry not good enough for me.

Johnny Martin

What does Joanna do now?

I see an argument above that she should ‘stay and try and claim the party back’. Maybe this will work but it seems that, even if there was a leadership election, it would take a long time and (tbqh) ‘reform from within’ always seems like an excuse for not seizing the mantle, be we talking about a political party or the union. But it’s certainly an option for her to stay and mount some form of leadership challenge and see what happens.

Alternatively, she could attempt to get to Holyrood by a different route. The bit in her tweet where she states that Westminster is not important to our efforts to get independence now seems to suggest she is thinking that Holyrood is certainly the stage on which things need to happen. But the tenor otherwise suggests that she doesn’t mean to leave the party. However, were I the ISP or similar, I’d be on the blower right now offering her the number one spot on a regional list. She can only say ‘no, I am staying here to fight’.

But it strikes me that there is a space in the political spectrum opening up, (independence supporting) voters to be had, and Joanna (and others) might want to strike while the iron is hot.

Not my decision, of course!

Liz

Last straw. Just resigned.
Putting that airhead Anne McLaughlin in JCs place is just gaslighting

It is meant as a kick in the teeth to try to humiliate her.
Well Windbag Blackford has just confirmed to us all he’s an arsewipe.

Still furious at this shit, furious.
Remenber they are after K McAskill as well

And spouse

SNP membership, should I stay or should I go?
Damned if we do, damned if we don’t, this is not looking good. How can we fix this from within, cos if we don’t, this moment is lost!

Kat

If I hadn’t already reached the last straw with the SNP, this would have been it. It’s the height of stupid to sack Cherry from the WM Front Bench. Looks petty & vindictive too.

I’m done with the SNP now, honestly it’s becoming a joke of a party.

Yes Always.

SNP Never.

10/30

aulbea1 @ 1.41pm
#Ah’m with Joanna Cherry.

Confused

it’s like one of those card games for teenagers

WOKE : The Gathering

plays “Joanna Cherry”, a very strong, mage/master level card, with +1 intelligence, +1 oratory and with bonus +1 woman and +1 lesbian skills

but is soundly thrashed by : “Woke JOKER”

and loses to a pincer attack :

+10 transphobia
and
+10 anti-semitism (a real surprise that one)

note we are using the 2021 Rainbow Deck, which gives double power points to all paraphilias and transphobia attacks count double and can be stacked.

Cath

can only hope that my local candidate distances himself from these machinations. Otherwise I will not vote for him again.

Same, and I know he won’t. I’m honestly at the stage now where, if something major hasn’t happened before May to fix the SNP, I’m ambivalent about a unionist coalition coming in. Let them deal with the shit from Brexit and let Scottish Labour preside over powers being ripped from Holyrood. If the SNP are going to do nothing towards independence and let all that happen anyway, we have a lot more chance fighting it as an independence movement if they’re not the ones in power, as we re-build, hopefully with a party led by grown ups with some intelligence and morals.

Davie Oga

Captain Yossarian says:
1 February, 2021 at 2:12 pm
“Will she be replaced by the incisively-minded, astute, well-read and educated Steven Bonar. He’s such an asset, you know.”

Little education, criminal charges over some sectarian disagreement, limited employment experience outside of politics.
He was a security guard for a while.

Probably being lined up as a future Justice Minister. Should tweet a picture of himself wearing his wife’s bra and panties to quicken his elevation.

David R

Is there any reason why Ms Cherry can’t resign the whip and then go as an independent in Holyrood election?

Imagine if she won may get enough support to get the FMs job.

Astonished


David says:
1 February, 2021 at 2:34 pm
Hey Jacqueline McMillan @ 2:17 and 2:22pm – you’ve taken it too far.
Writing about deliberately running someone over is never a good look.”
.
She didn’t. She said she wished she’d run him over. Entirely different. JM is asking you to reflect on what angus robertson has done for independence since then.
.
Words mean things – except, of course, to the wokeratti.
.
And referring to angus robertson as “Seat warming fuckwit.” seems spot on to me.
.
Sturgeon is now poison. I have no words.

laukat

I wonder how the SNP membership numbers are looking today? Also anyone from the ISP able to comment on what their membership numbers are looking like?

JSC

Of course, this now means that Edinburgh Central could actually get the main prize instead of the booby prize

Republicofscotland

So Sturgeon hates Cherry so much that she’s allowed her to be forced out, to the detriment of Scots and Scottish independence. Looks like Sturgeon and her wokerati are purging anyone from the party that doesn’t agree with their mantra.

The SNP is now in a fatal downward spiral, I wouldn’t blame good honest SNP MPs, and MSP’s if they jumped ship to the ISP.

Heaver

NewSNP.

Would that be a good name for a new party for the disgusted of these shires to shift their membership to?

Asking on behalf of a nation.

hampsteadpinko

Is Nicola Sturgeon fighting on the same side?

Jimmy The Pict

I am not 100% convinced that RSAMD prepares anyone for Shadow Justice Position
Shadow Culture Position maybe
Wonder if Cherry will be expunged from SNP history as well.

stuart mctavish

Plan A getting more intriguing by the minute!

Following CMs revelation last week, and the BAME declaration, my best guess pits AS v NS in constituency (and now JC v AR) in winner takes all if electoral commission prevents NS &/or AR heading their own regional equivalent of the Alex Salmond for First Minister party (2nd place on SNP list being unlikely to earn a seat IF current polling holds up).

Astonished

MSPs better speak out – or be shot with the wokeratti crows. Mike russel – too late for you. You presided over this -resign !

susanXX

I have just emailed my MP Drew Hendry. Will let you know if/ what he replies.

Livionian

I’m not willing to join the ISP because I’ve enjoyed being a free agent for a bit and fancy keeping it that way.

However, if it’s any consolation, the ISP has my list vote now. I was really sceptical a week ago, but I’m in. Dare I say there seems to be a bit of momentum now

And spouse

Stu at 2.55.
Stu, get of the fence and say what you think!

Strathy

From Stephen Daisley’s article in The Spectator: –

‘She [Joanna Cherry] has certainly never called for the SNP to be unsafe, intolerant or unwelcoming for trans people and has a sound track record of campaigning for equality.’

‘Cherry has been cast as a monstrous transphobe not for anything she has said but because she has said anything other than ‘Yes, of course’ to the every demand of the trans rights movement.’

‘An advocate like Cherry was always going to fall foul of those rushing to change the law because she understands both what is at stake and the tendency of speedy legislating to produce bad legislation.’

Sometime ago, Nicola Sturgeon introduced a zero-tolerance policy for intelligence and integrity among her MSPs and MPs. Joanna Cherry is the only one to fall foul of that policy.

Looks like Kenny MacAskill and Angus MacNeil may be joining her, though.

Republicofscotland

As the SNP ship sinks fatally holed below the water line, before our very eyes, Pete Wishart’s main concern and to his great delight is.

“Delighted to be resuming my responsibilities as our Shadow Leader of the House.”

link to twitter.com

Words fail me.

Jacqueline McMillan

Astonished says

David says

I say FGS!! Of course I wouldn’t run him over!! And YES he is a seat warming fat cunt!!

I look at my Country and it’s folk and how we’ve been shafted all my life (which is considerable in terms of years), my children’s future and everybody else’s children’s future, not to mention my forefather’s and foremother’s poverty stricken lives.

I’ve a right to be angry and express it how I wish! I’m not threatening to r*pe and murder women etc, etc. So if you don’t like it David you can fuck off!!

And spouse

Can the ISP please be careful as folks are leaving the sinking ship that the rats don’t leave too and climb on their ship!

Craig Murray suggests JC will be SNP leader in a year, but how do we vote in May?

Kenny

Totally fuck Sturgeon.
In fact, I’m glad, in a way, that this has occurred – now the gloves are off, the skeletons are all crawling out of the SNP cupboard, the crooks are showing their filthy hand.

greyskies

I resigned my SNP membership literally minutes before I heard what they’d done to Joanna Cherry. If I could resign again I would. I can’t believe what they’ve become.

Years ago I read this random comment in The Metro by a young girl:

“Why is Scotland so rubbish? It’s embarrassing.”

At the time I smiled. Today I am heartbroken.

Hatuey

So, Anne McLaughlin is replacing Joanna Cherry…

link to youtube.com

Okay.

Andy Ellis

@Heaver 2.51pm

The new party should be called Republic as in the Faroese Islands social Democratic Party there which is pro indy from Denmark.

Anyone who is advocating staying in the SNP to try and save it from within needs to know that the rest of us no longer trust you. You’ve picked your side. When people tell you who they are, you should believe them. By stating inside the party you’re aligning yourself with Sturgeon and the TRA extremists.

Mist001

Oh come on!! You’re all getting yourselves in a tizzy over nothing because as Ian Blackford points out today:

“We have a wealth of talent and experience and this reshuffle of SNP MPs ensures we are in the best possible position to hold the UK government to account during this global pandemic and the aftermath of Brexit, to support colleagues ahead of the Scottish elections, and to deliver independence.”

See?

You have nothing to worry about, the SNP has a wealth of talent and experience.

link to edinburghlive.co.uk

Ian Brotherhood

With the speed of new posts and comments here, it’s possible we’ll hit the million-comment mark by this time next week.

Are we having a party or what?

Mac

We are on a real knife edge here. I don’t think people really appreciate the peril we are still in.

Having seen the way the SNPG roll and use the COPFS to target anyone who they perceive is a ‘threat’ to their power there can be zero doubt now as to what their intentions are with that very sinister ‘Hate Bill”.

If Nicola Sturgeon gets relected somehow and that bill gets passed rest assured they will abuse and misuse it to the fullest, just as they have done every step of the way in the attempted stitch-up of Alex Salmond.

The SNPG has demonstrated it has no ethical or moral boundaries and is more than happy to conspire, lie and pervert the course of justice to get what it wants.

The Hate Bill will give the SNPG carte blanche to literally just make it up as it goes along. Some people they don’t like will face intense scrutiny while others they favour will get a completely free pass.

The Police Scotland goon squad will be unleashed to trawl social media posts (including comments on here) looking for anything they can to twist into ‘inciting hate’. And it is so easy to do as well…

I have no doubt the Hate Bill has been cynically, knowingly drafted for exactly this purpose. This is the SNPG’s modus operandi under Sturgeon.

This election is absolutely pivotal.

If we don’t get rid of NS then she really does present a danger to free speech in Scotland. What a little wannabe tyrant she is.

Jacqueline McMillan

And BTW David I would say it to your face.

ALISON BALHARRY

But in all of this ask yourselves, where the fuck are the elected SNP Mps or Msps speaking out? Let’s take millionaire Ivan McKee MSP, in the baby cabinet. Why the fuck is he not saying anything? He rode to fame as part of the Yes Scotland movement, I know he doesn’t agree with Sturgeon SO WHAT THE FUCK?

Oh and as McKee another ex Labour man,they were at Stathclyde together along with John Boothman, bloody Tommy Shepherd, aye what a shower, really. Care no more about Scotland and our independence then fly in the fucking air.

Big Jock

The worst of this is. The orders came from the leader about to be escorted out of the building, but delivered by messenger boy Blackford.

From Russell to Blackford to Sturgeon to Robertson to Smith. All of these imposters are acting like Stalin’s henchmen. I hope Salmond sees Sturgeon do time for this!

SilverDarling

Imagine Labour and the Tories punching the air with joy that the only person with any nous is no longer taking them to task on the front bench.

Anne McLaughlin will be minced – she is the SNP equivalent of Annie Wells with woke +++.

Gordon Keane

Not a sensible move from MP Blackford.
This is already doing immense damage.
Just scroll down the comments pages in the The (Glasgow) Herald, to see the uncontained glee of the anti Scottish mobs!
But it s interesting to see some of them with a sudden support for MP Cherry!
Just as they did for MP Kenny MacAskill, when he was criticized from going off to his Banff pad form the Lothians during Lockdown.
But at the end of the day,Nicola Sturgoen is in charge of SNP. It is she who it seems, has allowed all this to get way out of control. She must do something about it,

And we really do need a half decent alternative Independence Party in Scotland, and fast!

msean

I don’t care about who done what to who. I want independence.All concerned need to get a f*****g grip.Or nobody will have ANY power to do ANYTHING,cos you will all lose together when the Unionists win the elections.

You never see the Tories split in public at election time.They may hate each other,but winning comes first.Always.

I might also mention that they are loving this,and you who are at each others’ throats are doing what the press and UK Government couldn’t.

They won’t interupt while you make the biggest mistake of all.

Get a grip.

Jacqueline McMillan

ALISON BALHARRY

Correct, however MacAskill and ABM have stuck their heids above the parapet and Joan as well I believe

Christopher

Sturgeon is now deploying the “Scorthed Earth Policy.”

She is going down and she will try to destroy every that the SNP stands for on the way there.

Republicofscotland

I know the wokeratti and Sturgeon are a bunch of twisted two-faced creeps, but has Cherry been given a good reason as to why she’s been sacked?

Beaker

I know this is stating the bleeding obvious, but would you not expect a major political party to put a fucking lawyer into the justice brief?

Jacqueline McMillan

SNP NOW SWAPPING STEAK FOR MINCE. What a fucking shower 🙁

Jacqueline McMillan

Transphobia apparently 🙁

Skip_NC

I see George Kerevan (former Labour councillor in Portobello, who wasn’t very nice about the SNP standing outside Portobello Town Hall on election day 1987) has come out in support of JC. Hopefully this will gather pace. We need some cool heads to figure out the best way forward.

Incidentally, we need, I think, a grown-up conversation about the ISP. The Constitution seems to concentrate power in the hands of the initial NEC, eg, requires a 2/3 vote of that body to remove an existing NEC member. Get that fixed an I may well sign up.

Republicofscotland

“msean says:
1 February, 2021 at 3:13 pm
I don’t care about who done what to who. I want independence.All concerned need to get a f*****g grip.Or nobody will have ANY power to do ANYTHING,cos you will all lose together when the Unionists win the elections.”

Your naviety is astonishing, you must be the only one in here who thinks that they’ll be an indyref sometime in the near future. WGD’s site is over there now off you pop.

A Person

Fuck these cunts. Joanna if you are reading this God bless you, you are a strong woman who is in the side of right against corruption, cynicism and sadism.

Bob Mack

@Republicofscotland,

Reason Transphobia. Just like Mrs Mennie laxt night, Nicola is allowing these fdckin wanes to ruin the goodwill and good name and membership the SNP had built up over the years.

Time her and these brats were tossed out the nursery.

Where are our elected spineless representatives?

Betsy

SilverDarling says:
1 February, 2021 at 3:12 pm
Imagine Labour and the Tories punching the air with joy that the only person with any nous is no longer taking them to task on the front bench.

Anne McLaughlin will be minced – she is the SNP equivalent of Annie Wells with woke +++.

Now come on, I’m no Tory or Annie Wells fan but that’s harsh.

Breeks

Where do I join the Joanna Cherry Party?

More integrity in her little finger than Sturgeon and her bunch of crooks have combined.

Jacqueline McMillan

A Person says

Concur 110%

Stay strong Joanna, we all support you and send you love 🙂

Liz g

Joanna Cherry has too much support to be kept out of Holyrood that’s for sure.
I think since motive here seems to force her to resign the SNP so that she can’t become First Minister ( remember the only other registered party is list only) she should stay and fight…
They can’t stop a Holyrood bid …. they just don’t want her Leading Scotland and that , I think, tells us all we need to know about where Scotlands future sits in their plans …
No matter anyone’s views on the Salmond / Sturgeon thing ( he’s not in jail and she’s finished , so that has tine to play out ) if Scotland is yer priority then it has to be Joanna Cherry we all get behind.
Those who demure should name another other than Joanna,because it’s shit or get of the pot time for Scotland ….

Jm

And all that’ll be left are the Murrells and half a dozen woke warriors with painted clown faces chanting ideological purity mantras.

Desperate stuff.

Garavelli Princip

Joanny Cherry is – by far – the most able MP/MSP that my party has.

She must therefore be removed.

You know, I use to abhor the moniker ‘wee Jimmy Crankie’ – but now I get it!

DISGRACEFUL

Breeks

Sturgeon you’re a FUCKING DISGRACE!

Kenny

Roll of shame: those tweeting support of stabbing of Cherry et all.
Kenny McLean, SNP councillor for Partick East/Kelvindale
Eric Geddes, Head of Broadcast Media @theSNP
..among a gang of others.

Clapper57

How glad I am that I left the SNP as a member last year…my decision has been vindicated….by a succession of sheeite that has been deployed by them.

Joanna Cherry was my red line in still giving my vote to the SNP in May….I will now not vote for them as I, unlike them, have standards and a sense of fair play and decency.

Tis they within the SNP who are snatching defeat from the jaws of victory in giving fuel to the Unionist fire….currently I have friends, who in 2014 voted NO, but who were swaying towards YES but now are all talking more about Sturgeon and Salmond and now…now…are all asking about Joanna Cherry as opposed to them talking about independence.

Ian Blackford, Alyn Smith, Pete Wishart etc blawbags the lot of them……..wheesht for Indy is it…while you as a party are all making a huge noise for the Unionists to shout about…..a useless bunch if ever there was….Indy was for the taking and you all, through a succession of unnecessary acts of self harm , have destroyed the hopes and dreams of us all.

The Unionists need do nothing to keep the Union as the SNP are ensuring that they will indeed keep their Union together….very much a case of ….never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake..upon mistake…..the SNP are political amateurs who provide the sticks for the opposition to beat them with while simultaneously deflecting away all of the sheeite the Tories are deploying…… I think less money, time and effort will be afforded to Boris’s plan to save the Union….now that he has the SNP on board…for free.

The dream will never die ?……

But when will this nightmare end ?…..

JSC

The BBC online thingy says “The SNP said it had made a number of changes to its Westminster team ahead of the upcoming Holyrood election.”

OK so who is the poor bastard that’s getting the 2nd heave ho of the day, just to make it look like a normal “reshuffle” to anyone with shit for brains

DMT

Is anyone else reminded of Harold MacMillan’s 1962 Night of the Long Knives moment as Nicola Sturgeon sacks Joanna Cherry, Kenny McAskill & Angus McNeill?

Cath

know this is stating the bleeding obvious, but would you not expect a major political party to put a fucking lawyer into the justice brief?

Lawyers tend to be intelligent, outspoken and understand the law though. If you want to ram through poorly written legislation which rides roughshod over the law and imprison people for disagreeing with you, you need to rid yourself of lawyers who might stand up to you.

Lady Lyon

You’d think they were terrified of winning a majority in May which might be more reason to make sure they do! I can’t believe some on this new lineup when there is a pool of talent to choose but to replace Joanna Cherry with Anne McLaughlin, seriously? I look forward to the court jester making her maiden speech

Arturo

What is the point of having a comment section if you only allow comments that agree with you 100%? This is a farce.

susanXX

Transphobia, Islamophobia, antisemitism. Now meaningless dogwhistles to stifle free speech. Nicola Sturgeon et al I despise you all.

msean

You’re 3 months from an election,reality needs to bite here.I’m not a member of the SNP,the ISP,or any of the multicoloured tories.

We need the SNP,as the main driver to independence,nobody else.

Factionalism is going to destroy the independence movement.As I previously stated,get a grip.The Tories are loving this,and you all must know it.

Capn Andy

Jeeez. To be honest I didn’t see this coming. These folk are deranged.
Having read Craig Murray I was already trying to cancel my SNP membership, but can’t logon to online banking as I’m offshore. Will have to wait till the boat is in mobile range.
I have a lot of respect for Joanna Cherry. Hopefully the backlash to this may clear the logjam and the idiots (including Sturgeon and Blackford) will have to go.
I live in hope.

Skip_NC

Msean, you seem to be laboring under the misapprehension that the SNP is pro-independence.

JSC

msean @ 3:31
The SNP are not any kind of driver for independence, and they haven’t been for a long time. If you simply accept they are the only option then they are a monopoly who know that if they were aspirational and ultimately successful, then they would have some real work, responsibility and accountability, in order for their wages, and we don’t want that do we

Highland Bill

The Scottish National Prty(SNP) has turned to the Nicola Sturgeon Party (NSP) won’t be long until they add the letters A,D&A into that mix to complete the transformation into the NASDAP with the way the party has been acting for the past couple of years

Jacqueline McMillan

I see Owen Jones is having a pop, oh surprise. Maggot Dick that he is.

Liz g

mesan @ 3.31
Of course we know it …this site and most of us on it have been warning about exactly this for years.
We cannot ” get a grip ” because we’re not the ones causing the the stramash.
No one here did anything to cause the current shit show and as far as I’m aware the buck still stops with the leader.
No one here made Nicola Sturgeon do any of it and it could be argued that had she spent a wee bit of time here … she would not be in the mess she’s in now….and neither would Scottish independence.

John Spence

I was a member of ” I support the SNP ” on Facebook a couple of days ago they put up a quote that they had seen a file exonerating both AS and NS from any wrongdoing and blamed Evans.
They said we should now get behind the Government and stop the infighting.
I replied that I hoped that was true and would they send me a copy of the file.
5 minutes later I looked and the site had removed me as a member.
73 years old and wore my first badge in 1966.
Branch treasurer in the 70’s and conference delegate many times.
Out on my ear for asking a civil question.
This is not the party and people I worked with when we where mocked for having a dream of Independence.
I read Wings every day but do not put many posts up.
I am gutted what has happened to the SNP and my vote is withdrawn after all this time.

Bob Mack

@Arturo,

Its the SNP way. Complain to them

Soda

Well thats me.. it’s took since 2016 but i’ve finally left the party i’ve been a member of for the last 30 odd years.

I left a simple if not elegant letter…

” The sacking of J. Cherry us the last straw in a haystack full of straws. The murrells have ruined the party and set back our independence decades.
Sturgeon was not only the worst thing to happen to Alex Salmond but the SNP and Scotland as well.

They say you always become the thing you hate most. In Sturgeon’s case she has became the Scottish labour party and thatcher all rolled into one.

Do us a favour, resign and take you band of happy clapping transcult entryists with you.

You Sturgeon are a liar and an egotistical idiot. “

Soda

Thanks for the push Rev, i’m now a paid up member of ISP

Strathy

Tom Gordon of The Herald: –

‘Fancy that. The only SNP MPs without a role in the new Westminster line-up are the three closest to Alex Salmond – Joanna Cherry, Angus MacNeil and Kenny MacAskill.’

kapelmeister

msean

The Tories are not loving this. The shrewder ones anyway, know that the post-Sturgeon indy movement will be more determined, mature and effective than it as ever been.

holymacmoses

Unfortunately I am not wealthy but I have added a bit to the ISP pot which desperately needs to be filled . Mostly because it will need the cash BUT even more urgently to show support for the group. Wings has a link at the top and I really hope everyone can post this link on twitter and get as many people to retweet and add a bit – that would be good.

msean

Independence is bigger than any First Minister,Former First Minister or puffed up MSP or MP.

You can accomplish ZERO from the opposition benches.If you want to take a chance on how well the multicoloured Tories will treat you,never mind the poor and disabled,then by all means,implode the party.

As I said,get a grip.

A Person

BBC but a fair point…

link to mobile.twitter.com

Sharny Dubs

NS is continuing her remit of dismantling the SNP and confining the independence movement to the bin where her masters want it.

How do we fight back?

Johanna like up you say our fight will be in Holyrood, haste ye back and rally the troops.

kapelmeister

Stay true with ISP2.

Scunnered

I am truly scunnered at, not just today’s events, but the whole debacle since the Salmond story was leaked to the Daily Record – and my tolerance for SNP bullshit is high, I’m a member of Uddingston and Bellshill branch! It’s sickening that a talented woman, the most capable politician in Scotland (maybe even the UK) has been back benched because of the professional jealousies and paranoia of Sturgeon and her coterie. Joanna’s stance on women’s rights is the excuse they were looking for to get rid of the woman who will definitely be leader of the SNP and first minister of Scotland, I believe it is she who will lead us to independence. So instead of a QC sitting on the front bench of the third party in Westminster, we have Anne McLaughlin whose biggest successes to date have been to be selected and win the candidacy for her area to be MP. What a rid neck.
To all who have left or say they will, I ask you not to. Hang on because Joanna will need our votes when Sturgeon is banished. Joining later will be no good because, as recent history shows, the NEC will make up a new rule that you have to have been a member for 50 years, and have a letter from both your parents confirming your choice (or identify as trans/disabled/BAME).
What we need to do is look for ways to our pressure on them. Someone more clever than I may know if we can ask for the police to investigate the missing money which has been ‘woven’ through the funds held by the SNP.
It would also be good if we could highlight the nepotism that prevails within the party. Anne McLaughlin and Cllr Campbell, and how rules have been changed to ensure he gets first list place. Keith Brown and Christina McKelvie – how Christina was a relative nobody until she got into bed with Brown and now she is a junior minister, there are others, including the obvious Murrel duo.

A Person

-msean-

Really, is that so? Is it bigger than Nicola Sturgeon? Because from where I’m sitting it seems like you lot care a hell of a lot more about venerating that useless dolt than about any kind of independence. Is it bigger than Josh and Leeze and Cameron and all the other fanatics? Because it seems that you and yours are more than happy to divide the party and land it with atrocious policies if they want it. Too right “it’s bigger than any one person”.

Bob Mack

@Msean,

Independence js not on the agenda.

Ottomanboi

OH WHAT A TANGLED WEB or how they’ve lie their way into deep shit or how your life has been well screwed.
link to off-guardian.org
Covid atheism, you know you’ve actually nothing to fear so Unmask, Go out, Have fun and tell your government where to stick its fix.
Aka Getting your life back.
As the Scottish gov. like the London one has stuck all its eggs in the same basket, expect a mega unappetizing mess when the truth hits home.

Jacqueline McMillan

kapelmeister says:
1 February, 2021 at 3:43 pm
msean

The Tories are not loving this. The shrewder ones anyway, know that the post-Sturgeon indy movement will be more determined, mature and effective than it as ever been.

HOPE OVER FEAR …..YES

Graf Midgehunter

Readers may find this link of use.

For those of you who, to paraphrase the REV, “never click the f***** blue links….. aaggghhhhh”

The SNP boil is very, very rapidly approaching the point of self-lancing and it won’t be nice.. 🙂

msean

They are indeed loving this. They don’t have to beat you,just stop a majority.That’s ALL they need to do.

They do that,IndyRef2 is set back 5 years at minimum.They don’t care about The Scottish Parliament,they’d prefer it wasn’t there.Buying time for themselves,at our expense.

deerhill

“Having read Trotsky and Lennon”

Yeh!, they wrote some good songs.

The one that I like best is “Go Now”,
dedicated to N. Sturgeon.

Graf Midgehunter

Hint as it won’t turn blue with my comment.

link to isp.scot

Davie Oga

msean

I would suggest that a criminal conspiracy to pervert the course of justice and destroy innocent peoples lives is far more
likely to be the cause of the “factionalism” you lament.

Some people don’t want to vote for psychopathic criminals.

That notion seems to be missing from the whole SNP electoral “strategy”.

In fact, I would go so far as to say that the overwhelming majority will not vote for a psychopathic criminal under any circumstances.

Still, pandering to extreme transactivists can possibly make make up for the lost votes. People who don’t want to vote for a psychopathic criminal only make up 99% of the population, whereas hard core transactivists make up 0.0001 %.

I’m sure it’ll work out alright on the day. It’ll fine. No problem. Nothing to see here. Wheeeeeeesht

Patsy Millar

Just cancelled my SNP membership. They’re ‘sorry to see me go’totally ignoring the reasons I gave. Hey ho!

Papko

Bet all the other parties are having anxiety now.
If the SNP implodes then some of them may have to form the next Govt.
Its go for broke time.
Can we not just keep Sturgeon and her Valkyries till 2026?

Gordon Keane

msean, it’s not factionalsim as such, but it does look very much like a small clique of individuals with a strange agenda have managed to infiltrate SNP, and ant to take full control and also are they seem hellbent on doing s much damage to the Independence movement as they can get away with.
For make no mistake, this group do not care about getting Independence.
Yes, we do need a big SNP win in May, but we also need others to remind them why, if they get that big win
As I say above, tho, the Fist Minister is ultimately in charge, and ye she has allowed to to develop so far, and it isn’t doing her any good.
And by the looks of it, some of the MPs don’t care too much for Independence either. Ian Blackford coming across as one of them!

Republicofscotland

“They are indeed loving this. They don’t have to beat you,just stop a majority.That’s ALL they need to do.”

The SNP didn’t have a majority at the last election before all this evil shit started, and they certainly won’t have one come May. Sure I’d imagine the SNP will still be in government after May but with fewer seat and an even smaller majority. Hopefully though the ISP will have hoovered up plenty of List seats to try and keep the SNP for totally imploding.

However the SNP under its current leadership isn’t interested in independence.

LaingB French

This stupid brainless decision to SACK! Joanna Cherry from the frontbench is a slap in the face for Scotland. I think MCSTURGEON has done her last greatest incompetent act. This has got to bring the sword of Damocles down upon her. its either incompetence, egotistical power grabbing or political suicide none of which Scotland as a nation will benefit from. ACCOUNTABILITY IS NEEDED NOW! HEADS MUST ROLL.

Fionan

Ho hum, as a protest against this treatment of Joanna Cherry, I used Stu’s link to (pinching my nose very hard because I have seen no reason to trust them)joined the ISP. They have taken my donation, but when Paypal returned me to the ISP site, I could only get an error message saying the site isn’t available.

Still, I guess if they have that cash from me, it will still count to me as a protest against JCs treatment, even if it doesn’t change the stats in any way to show the snp that people are furious at their actions – always assuming people are as furious as I am, of course.

I hope JC doesn’t let them grind her down. We so need people of her calibre to try to help in the fight for indy. It kind of brings back to mind the Ghandi quote ‘first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you and then you win’. In my lifetime I have seen the first two of these come to pass and it does seem we are now very much in the third stage. Shame it is those we trusted to deliver indy that are fighting us, and a win seems far away right now.

Peter A Bell

The spittle-flecked demands for Stu Campbell to be silent or silenced bear comparison with the book-burnings of an earlier age; just as the hounding of Joanna Cherry is reminiscent of the witch-hunts of an era when it was actual witches that were hunted. Or at least those accused of practising witchcraft – which in the minds of bigots and zealots amounts to sufficient proof of guilt.

link to peterabell.scot

kapelmeister

Over on WGD they’ve taken to calling us Mings Over Scotland.
Well, we here know who created the mings over Scotland.
Mrs & Mr Murrell, Empress and Emperor Ming.

haagsehighlander

Ive got a horrible feeling, now that spears has gone to join her mate roddick in the highlands, that the lot of the TRA are heading north, aye really? fuckin get tae, yer an absolute fuckin disgrace to Scotland,do one!
P.S.outstanding work Rev,outstanding.

Mia

If I was Angus Robertson today I would not be able to show my face with the embarrassment.

That your boss thinks you are so incapable that in order for you to win, the most able candidate for the seat you are contesting had to be blocked from the race, that then a group of hired professional trolls masquerading as wokes and gender woowoos have to do all the dirty work of smearing Ms Cherry so you can look a bit less bad but still look so bad that Ms Cherry has to be removed from the front bench so the public cannot hear her speaking showing you off for the actual plonker you are, is nothing to be proud of.

It is fckng shameful.

There is no better way to present yourself as a completely useless and corrupt leader wannabe than having the previous leader on her knees while clinging from her fingernails to the post “cleaning up the path” before they go in order for you to be even in the position of getting to walk on it.

Republicofscotland

SNP MP Kenny MacAskill standing by Joanna Cherry and pointing the finger at the SNP hierarchy for this.

link to twitter.com

link to thenational.scot

Giesabrek

Nicola Sturgeon will still be a great leader after the election… of A wing in HM Prison Cornton Vale!

Liz g

msean @ 3.52
Then what exactly is you suggest we do here msean ?
Because we are where we are and where we are is… Nicola Sturgeon is now a lame duck First Minister who cannot last.
It’s not possible ( even if we wanted too ) to get behind her now she’s far too damaged.
She chose Transgender as the hill to die on …. nobody forced her …we all cautioned her.

And the irony of it all is…
When her time is over , all the Transgender People will still want a fair hearing at the very least…
Well mibbi they are the ones who should think twice about costing us our independence ,and they should take note , Nicola Sturgeon has never once, it seems, considered that they be blamed either.
Another thing we warned of…. I’ve said myself many times they were being used and used badly .

So I ask again…. Exactly what are you suggesting we do..???
And please don’t say TRUST Nicola Sturgeon to pick her replacement… her judgment is no exactly sound. Her choice is probably the last person to pick!

Republicofscotland

Here we go.

link to twitter.com

Skip_NC

Kapelmeister, you mean like a dynasty that is going to last for three centuries. How nice.

TNS2019

I can just about cope with some of the incompetence shown by the current government over Covid roll-out, BiFab, Ferguson etc etc, but what I cannot cope with is Whitehouse v Lord Advocate or Salmond shenanigans.
Surely the basis of a democracy must be built on a true separation of powers and an independent judiciary (which we clearly do not have).
Actually, I no longer place independence as my first priority (Sorry Rev Campbell). I just want competence in government.
I don’t want to resign from this site (I may well be sacked) because it is the only source of true journalism in Scotland, but I fear for an independent future if it is not built on basic principles.
In other words, until someone writes that manifesto (Do it! Just do it!), I have nothing to vote for in May.

Daisy Walker

Big silence coming from Dr Philipa Whitford just now.

That concerns me. But I’m not ready to jump to conclusions.

If your in her constituency though, now might be a good time to express the strength of your feelings. Dr Whitford is fully aware of how much her position owes to the volunteers who help get her elected.

She’s giving a speech tonight with regards EU membership, ‘Exactly a year ago @Dr_PhilippaW
held this powerful speech in the pouring rain next to the Donald Dewar statue during our #leavealightonforscotland event. Tomorrow (1st Feb 2021) she will be back on our @GlasgowlovesEu
#Livestream. Tune in at 7.30pm on twitter or on FB.’

Perhaps there will be an opportunity for her to express some form of support for JC then. If the shoe was on the other foot, JC would not have hesitated.

msean

As I said,I am not taking sides in this factional dispute.I care only for independence.

The Trans stuff,it may seem rude to say so,but I think most voters don’t care about it,most are concerned about the virus and whats in their pockets and politicians have been destroying each others’ reputations,for,like, forever.

The Westminster Government don’t care how you get stopped,just that you are stopped.’Infighting is great’ because you are not fighting them,but each other.

None of you seem to get that,and they are loving it.

ALISON BALHARRY

Mia:at 409pm

Do not underestimate the faustian pact that exists between the ”Robertsons” and the ”Sturrells” therein lies the ”why we are so fucked as a country” clue.

Watchers know it, craven, hapless, media are aware BUT no one goes on the record.

In fairness have to say I have a great respect for Roddy Dunlop QC for speaking out. Not easy for that level. But he did.

kapelmeister

Skip_NC

Don’t worry Skip, they are without issue. In the biological sense that is. Obviously though, the Murrells have both got nothing but issues.

Liz g

msean @ 4.16
Agree that they are loving it and I never asked you take any ” sides “.
What I asked was and is…

What do you want us to do about it here ?

TNS2019

BTW, and just to be completely transparent about my own position, I spent much of January 2019 checking under my car for explosives and waiting to be arrested on trumped-up charges.
All true.
Still facing the onslaught of the current establishment.
That a country that has been my domicile for 38 years should sink to this level is deeply disturbing.
How low have we sunk?
link to tns2019.org

Republicofscotland

“As I said,I am not taking sides in this factional dispute.I care only for independence.”

Jesus H. Christ, you either want independence or you don’t want it, under Sturgeon’s leadership they’ll be no indyref, Cherry McNeil, MacAskill and a few others do want it, the sides have already been picked choose yours.

Sitting on the fence isn’t an option.

Socrates MacSporran

I had already decided, I would not be voting SNP on the constituency ballot – I will spoil my paper. I will also hold to my decision to give my list vote to the ISP.

This crass and stupid decision has just reinforcedmy decision. Sturfeon and her coven seem determined to drive intelligent, capable peoply out of the party, and put back the cause of independence.

Skip_NC

Kapelmeister, actually, I was thinking of WGD describing the sort of people who will achieve the restoration of Scottish national sovereignty (ie, the sort of people who inhabit Wings) as like a dynasty that lasted three hundred years.

Daisy Walker

Tommy Shepherd has been moved to being in charge of Constitutional matters.

I had a question mark about Tommy, as he was the first SNPer to state back in 2017 that we would need to let Brexit happen before we actually did anything to fight it. Soon followed by Pete Wishart.

I do not doubt for one second that they would have given anyone the portfolio for the Constitution if he was not going to do exactly as told.

REally glad to see Neale Heanvey coming out in support of JC.

One very good thing about this, is it might be a vry telling method of identifying those for Indy, and those for Devo Nowt with a side helping of perpetual carrots.

Davie Oga

Mia says:
1 February, 2021 at 4:09 pm
“If I was Angus Robertson today I would not be able to show my face with the embarrassment.”

Leave Angus alone. He bought that seat fair and square with a 100% genuine affadavit of lies.

Mia

“Do not underestimate the faustian pact that exists between the ”Robertsons” and the ”Sturrells”

I wonder if somewhere along that faustian pact somehow the british state managed to crash the party through the back door.

Captain Yossarian

@TNS2019 – several people have been messaging this website recently with plausible stories relating to malfeasance in public office. The name ‘Swinney’ comes up time and time again doesn’t it.

Have you tried the Secretary of State for Scotland? We are dealing with a devolved power obviously, but he is in charge of the Devolution Settlement and so I reckon he should know too.

If it is any comfort, the legal profession in Scotland know that the game is up. When Sturgeon and Swinney are removed, people will want to know why the legal profession failed to protect them.

I have worked overseas and when a proper investigation into government malfeasance is needed, they call in the Met. Perhaps that’s what we need here too.

Mike

Sturgeon must be hoping that the Covid pandemic hangs around for as long as possible to help divert attention from the festering mess that is now the SNP.

All the more reason to get these vaccines rolled out and a return to normality to put the spotlight back on Sturgeon and her cronies.

Effijy

link to heraldscotland.com

I think the majority of Independence and SNP supporters would vote for a Salmond Party.

Hatuey

msean: “The Westminster Government don’t care how you get stopped,just that you are stopped.’Infighting is great’ because you are not fighting them,but each other.”

Yes, we’ve heard that mantra a million times. It’s basically a variation on the Pete Wishart theme.

While the Westminster Government might not care how it stops independence, we care how we start it.

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.

msean

I am not in any faction here,just want independence. Infighting,factionalism etc, will destroy the the independence movement,heads need to be banged together ffs.You’re 3 months from an election.

THREE MONTHS!

Davie Oga

ALISON BALHARRY says:
1 February, 2021 at 4:17 pm
Mia:at 409pm

Do not underestimate the faustian pact that exists between the ”Robertsons” and the ”Sturrells” therein lies the ”why we are so fucked as a country” clue.

If you were tasked to find which senior SNP members are acting in the interest of the British state for money or favour, the male members of both those couples would be a good place to start. For clarification, I mean male as in having a penis. Putting on a strap on and giving Peter a rough seeing to for performing so poorly at the inquiry doesnt make someone a man any more than Self ID makes a man a woman.

WhoRattledYourCage

Good luck to Ms. Cherry, thrown under the bus by a weak-willed,threatened-feeling demagogue sociopath. She’s better off out of the increasingly insane, self-toppling cesspit that comprises Holyrood these days.

Jacqueline McMillan

YUCK

FFS

Cath

I’ve just been perusing my SNP membership renewal letter, swithering about whether to stay in or let it lapse and I have noticed something utterly appalling. Probably literal violence in fact. In the details box it asks for “gender” and give only two options M and F!!! HOW CAN THIS BE? WHAT ABOUT NON BINARY PEOPLE? Why is there not a sliding scale with Barbie at one end and GI Joe at the other? The hypocrisy of these people.

holymacmoses


msean says:
1 February, 2021 at 4:41 pm
I am not in any faction here,just want independence. Infighting,factionalism etc, will destroy the the independence movement,

Stupidity is what will destroy the movement. Nobody here will vote against independence but you are working with a party which is actively working against independence and you don’t even have the excuse of Gordon Brown’s blindness .

Breeks


Giesabrek says:
1 February, 2021 at 4:12 pm
Nicola Sturgeon will still be a great leader after the election… of A wing in HM Prison Cornton Vale!

Aye. Soon see if she feels the same way about self ID when there’s a crowd of blokes identifying as women banged up beside her…

Jacqueline McMillan

My last post replying to Davy Oga BTW.

Would rather play it on my trumpet ….a real one I hasten to add, not my arsehole

Cath

Sex *is* binary. Gender absolutely is not. Think I’ll renew along with a 3000 word essay on why a form giving a binary option for “gender” is the absolute worst, most hateful and bigoted violence I have ever seen from a political party.

boris

link to caltonjock.com

City of London financiers are a smart bunch of operators and the jungle that they survive in is no place for the inexperienced.

These guys do not take prisoners and will stuff Aberdeen Council if the opportunity arises.

Beaker

@kapelmeister says:
1 February, 2021 at 4:08 pm
“Over on WGD they’ve taken to calling us Mings Over Scotland.”

Now I can’t get the bloody song out of my head…

WhoRattledYourCage

This Charles Bukowski poem, which is a fine work of art, absolutely encapsulates the hypocritical, shrill, insane mentality of people who scream from the rafters aboot how caring they are…even as they sharpen up the torture devices for using on others. Take a listen, seriously. It’s a fine, non-pretentious slice of human truth. And the contemporary SNP can go fuck itself. Even more than it is doing already.

link to m.youtube.com

Lawrence

Joanna Cherry surely has to give up on the SNP and look for pastures new.

Or at least become more public on her thoughts on what is happening within the Sturgeon government.

Jacqueline McMillan

boris

Saw that coming for a while and so did Auld Nic

Steve davison

Running roughshod over everything moral and legal trying to gather brainwashed drones around her to affirm everything she does yet it’s only in the main the rank and file member’s in outrage speaking out and leaving i.Is the for gone so deep.The Rev might have the inside track that she will go soon but all I see is a doubling down she thinks she is bulletproof .I agree that any shifting over to ISP must be held accountable for there actions during this time before been accepted

Anne Marie McNulty

After 40 years supporting SNP I’ve quit. now I have joined ISP. Feel sad but hopeful again.

Jacqueline McMillan

Steve davison

Done before. One springs to mind and he was born in Austria

Robert Louis

This is spiteful, as it is stupid.

Now we can see, in full daylight the twisted conniving, bitter hateful nature of those leading the SNP. Their we have it. We no longer have to assume.

And then we have the utter nonsense of an eminent, superb, QC MP, who is a lesbian and champion of equality, sacked to appease thes Trans bigots – who, incidentally do NOT speak for most transgender folk.

Sick of it. Utterly, utterly sick of it.

As a gay man, Joanna cherry has my full support in all she does and HAS DONE (and I shall write and tell her so). These ‘trans’ thugs will NEVER speak for me.

Nicola Sturgeon was handed an absolute gift of a party from Alex Salmond, and through weakness has absolutely destroyed it.

The Tories don’t need to do or say anything, the SNP have quite literally decided to destroy themselves.

Nicola Sturgeon will be remembered as the person who threw it all away. What a fool. What a failure. In the future, historians will all ask, ‘just why was Nicola Sturgeon so obsessed with trans cultists, to the extent of destroying her party, and trashing the chances of Scottish independence?’.