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Better Together leaked posters #7

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    1. gnohbdi says:

      Scaremongering bollocks – coal plants emit more radiation.

    2. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      Tell it to the owner of that calf.

    3. Appleby says:

      All we need is Blinky. Maybe Scotland could set up a zoo for these animals? Think of the money that could be generated from tourism with the new age freak show. The Union Dividend pays out again!
       
      When a coal plant pulls a Fukishima, Chernobyl, Windscale, Three Mile Island, etc. then I’ll worry about coal radiation. When a lump of coal or the ashes of it takes hundreds or thousands of years buried a mile underground to be anything close to safe then I’ll be more worried about coal radiation.
       
      Rev Stu – did you ever see that documentary that was broadcast in the UK about the Finnish construction of the final resting place of the waste? An enourmous underground facility, experts were mulling on how they could ensure it would remain undisturbed through millenia and the obvious difficulties of making signs and warnings to keep them out when language would likely change completely by then and there’s no way to predict the culture or technology of the people encountering the tomb. It was fascinating and disturbing for what it revealed about the state of things and the future.

    4. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “All we need is Blinky. Maybe Scotland could set up a zoo for these animals? Think of the money that could be generated from tourism with the new age freak show. The Union Dividend pays out again!”

       

      You should have seen the pics I didn’t use. Jesus. Truly hideous stuff. Ironically, given today’s events, I didn’t want to be tasteless…

    5. Appleby says:

      I’ve seen a few stomach-churing examples, but I’ve no doubt there’s even worse out there as last time I saw a gallery of the horrors I had to stop.
      What didn’t help with Scotland’s contamination at the hands of Westminster was them dumping depleted uranium into our waters with the military usage and testing.

      Odd how the best spot for Westminster to test anything poisonous seems to be Scotland, be it chemical, biological, nuclear or financial…

    6. Morag says:

      Confused veterinary pathologist here.  Deformed baby animals are born from time to time, it happens.  If that had been a human infant, ante-natal ultrasound screening would have identified the problem and the pregnancy would have been terminated.  Nobody screens cattle like that, so it’s always a bit of a fright when you get a deformed birth.

      It’s my job to investigate stuff like this and find out whether there’s an actual cause, or whether it’s just “one of those things”.  Nobody’s covering up glow-in-the-dark calves in Scotland, I can assure you.  Our main worry as regards deformities right now is that the Schmallenberg virus, which has been found in England, gets here.

      So my professional persona wants some evidence that the calf pictured had anything to do with an atomic power plant.

    7. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      Well, the fact that it’s a calf from Chernobyl provides some circumstantial evidence…

      The point wasn’t, in any event, that nuclear stations were CURRENTLY provoking mutations in Scotland. It was that they’re a huge risk in the event of accident – we’re not a big place, one bit of bad luck with the wrong wind and the entire country could be rendered uninhabitable for ever – and the people of Scotland don’t want them.

    8. John Ruddy says:

      Thats the problem with radiation – it doesnt recognise borders. Declaring independence wont stop this happening. This sort of thing happened after Chernobyl – and THAT plant was several thousand miles away.

    9. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “Thats the problem with radiation – it doesnt recognise borders. Declaring independence wont stop this happening”

      No, but it’ll reduce the chances significantly. If your nuclear plant is IN Scotland, the chances of Scotland being irradiated in an accident are 100%. If it’s in Ukraine, or France, or even Kent, the odds are an awful lot better.

    10. Morag says:

      Well, the fact that it’s a calf from Chernobyl provides some circumstantial evidence…
       
      You know, I nearly said that – unless if comes from the Ukraine!  But I thought that farmland had been abandoned now, because of the contamination.  Sure, that makes it a perfectly fair point, except without knowing that it kind of comes over as mad conspiracy theorising that calves are being born like that in Fairlie.

    11. Appleby says:

      “Nobody’s covering up glow-in-the-dark calves in Scotland, I can assure you.”
       
      Well unless you can assure me you’ve been looking under everyone’s socks and trousers I don’t believe you!

    12. D says:

      This is scaremongering nonsense.

      If a cow from Chernobyl is going to be the poster for nuclear energy then the 170,000 drowned Chinese corpses of Banqiao dam should be a fair representation of hydroelectricity don’t you think?

      If we’re going to get preachy about the hazards of energy production we should be considering the thousands who die each year mining coal and compare that to the <10 who die due to radiation.

      There’s no need to bring in your particular aversion to nuclear energy into any debates about independence.  I enjoyed this series of images up until this one.

    13. Appleby says:

      “then the 170,000 drowned Chinese corpses of Banqiao dam should be a fair representation of hydroelectricity don’t you think?”
       
      It should be if this was any sort of real danger. I’d wholeheartedly support it if that was the case.
       
      Coal mining and other mining was gradually getting much safer in Europe, but thanks to the “cheapest is best” mentality it was all shut down to get it from foreign sources with less safe methods. Chinese deaths in these mines has been notorious for a while, for accidents and industrial disease.
       
      For the same reason tha a plane crash that kills a thousand is front page news for weeks or longer but all the car crashes that kill tens of thousands are not, the nuclear accident are far more important than gradual industrial disease.
       
      Thankfully with these it’s not as common as big nuclear risks for us and it doesn’t last for a near eternity or invisibly blanket you and the area with cancer-causing material or leave you with huge amounts of lethal waste.

      Not scaremongering nonsense at all. Nuclear is dangerous and short-sighted. The selfish champions of it are more than happy to brainwash, stamp down and hold back any alternatives to suit their own pockets and purses.



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