The world's most-read Scottish politics website

Wings Over Scotland


Drawing the battle lines

Posted on December 14, 2011 by

There's some fairly predictable outrage from Nationalists bouncing around the blogosphere today at the news that control of the Crown Estates will not be devolved to the Scottish Parliament. This anger seems to us to be misplaced.

A pair of recent polls have reinforced what we've known for years – the constitutional settlement preferred by the large majority of the Scottish electorate is so-called "devo max", or Full Fiscal Autonomy, under which the Crown Estate would pass to Holyrood along with all other powers of revenue raising and expenditure. However, the three Unionist parties (or as we should more correctly put it, those who variously prefer to dub themselves Federalists, Unionists and Devolutionists, or FUDs) are all bitterly opposed to offering voters this option in the independence referendum.

With the status quo by some distance the least popular of the three possible arrangements for Scotland's governance, the opposition appears to be hell-bent on forcing Scots to make a straight choice between that and independence. It seems clear to this blog that such a stance can only be good news for supporters of the latter.

Were the UK Government to concede issues like the Crown Estate and Corporation Tax, plainly those who favour greater devolution would see progress being made, and in all likelihood be more content to reject full independence and continue down the gradualist path. But by going all out to signify that the UK will not grant the Scottish Parliament even fairly modest further powers, the Unionist parties can only succeed in driving more and more of those who want devo-max into the independence camp.

For our money, the starker the choice in the referendum is, the better.

Comment - please read this page for comment rules. HTML tags like <i> and <b> are permitted. Use paragraph breaks in long comments. DO NOT SIGN YOUR COMMENTS, either with a name or a slogan. If your comment does not appear immediately, DO NOT REPOST IT. Ignore these rules and I WILL KILL YOU WITH HAMMERS.


  • About

    Wings Over Scotland is a thing that exists.

    Stats: 6,780 Posts, 1,220,540 Comments

  • Recent Posts

  • Archives

  • Categories

  • Tags

  • Recent Comments

    • WhoRattledYourCage on A different school: “Thanks. Glad ye enjoayed it.Jun 24, 03:26
    • duncanio on A different school: “After the people have voted for the restoration of Scotland’s full self-government there will be no ‘negotiations for Independence’. The…Jun 24, 00:03
    • Insider on A different school: “Mia 10:54… Please stop perpetuating the myth that Scotland is “too wee, too poor, too stupid” to be independent !…Jun 23, 23:42
    • Insider on A different school: ““it would only take 10 doors to be knocked on every day” sarah… Do you not realise that many people…Jun 23, 23:34
    • Mia on A different school: ““Brexit was a necessary step on the true road to genuine Independence” Of for goodness sake. Here comes the gaslighting…Jun 23, 22:54
    • Morgatron on Anatomy Of A Lunatic: “Stu, we need a new party urgently to lead us out of the myre. Please consider it along with Robin.…Jun 23, 22:42
    • Insider on Anatomy Of A Lunatic: “As my dear old granny would have said.. Aye! He’s no the full shillin, that yin !Jun 23, 22:32
    • agent x on A different school: “In 2023 the number of households in Scotland was 2.5 million 10 doors per day – 2,500,000/10 = 250,000/340 days…Jun 23, 22:28
    • David on Anatomy Of A Lunatic: “Thanks for clearing that up. Former SNP member here. Dear, Scot Goes Pop. I’ll be listening to Stuart Campbell. As…Jun 23, 22:15
    • Lorn on A different school: “Yes, two sets of politicians from The Czech Republic and Slovakia decided that the two parts could no longer live…Jun 23, 22:12
    • Hatey McHateface on A different school: ““would only take 10 doors to be knocked on every day to get the message to every household in Scotland…Jun 23, 22:09
    • sarah on A different school: “Good question. Given that their candidate has made a public declaration about standing down to give Fergus a free run,…Jun 23, 22:06
    • Lorn on A different school: “Hatey: I take your point about the minority forcing independence on the majority, which is why I have always accepted…Jun 23, 22:00
    • McDuff on A different school: “Another great piece Rev where you once again expose the SNP for what they are, lying chancers drowning us in…Jun 23, 22:00
    • Lorn on A different school: “Aidan: it has nothing to do with creating a new legal order. The law is the law is the law.…Jun 23, 21:46
    • Xaracen on A different school: “You’ve never addressed the arguments I’ve made about the current legal order and its origin myths, Aidan; all you’ve ever…Jun 23, 21:44
    • agent x on A different school: “Has anyone asked if Fergus Ewing will stand as a Liberate Scotland umbrella candidate?Jun 23, 21:40
    • Lorn on A different school: “Which part of Eastern Europe are you talking about, Hatey? Ukraine? Was it inevitable that there would be war between…Jun 23, 21:38
    • Lorn on A different school: “Actually, Aidan, you could not be more wrong. Modern law stems from earliest times in both Scotland and England. It…Jun 23, 21:28
    • agent x on A different school: “@Mia Thankyou for listing the reasons why I have never voted SNP and never will.Jun 23, 21:28
    • sarah on A different school: “The question we should be discussing is “How is the word to be spread to the voters about the need…Jun 23, 21:20
    • Hatey McHateface on A different school: ““some may even reject their own liberation – i.e. Vote No” Some may develop schizophrenia. They will vote Yes for…Jun 23, 21:16
    • Sue Varley on A different school: “Sounds great in theory but you say: “Best case, we begin negotiations for our independence” and here is the problem.…Jun 23, 21:04
    • Hatey McHateface on A different school: ““L. A disgusting surrender to brexit” Brexit was a necessary step on the true road to genuine Independence. Your denial…Jun 23, 21:01
    • sarah on A different school: “I enjoyed that, Rattled – thanks for posting! It brought back memories of bonfire nights when I was little -…Jun 23, 20:54
    • Aidan on A different school: “You’re right, I don’t, but that’s because I don’t have dozens of people day after day trying to invent some…Jun 23, 20:41
    • Chas on A different school: “Good for you Sarah. No plan, forecasts or projections on anything. ‘It will all be fine’. Scotland will simply plunder…Jun 23, 20:39
    • WhoRattledYourCage on A different school: “Wee bit ay Scots poetry fir light relief: https://whorattledyourcage.blogspot.com/2025/06/darknight-lightshow.htmlJun 23, 20:35
    • James on A different school: “It’s Scots I’m mainly aiming at, Sven; we were regularly scolded and belted for speaking in oor ain tongue.Jun 23, 20:14
    • Insider on A different school: “Watch out, Hatey ! “Puir auld Alf” has his ouija board out again to talk to his deid pals. More…Jun 23, 20:12
  • A tall tale



↑ Top