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We haven’t forgotten

Posted on April 25, 2013 by

You’ve probably noticed there’s been quite a lot going on here recently, but we’re not neglecting the wonderful people who contributed to our hugely successful fundraiser.

hamishthanks

The first version of our Credits page is now live.

There are about a million issues with it, so we’ll do a list.

1. If you donated but didn’t select a “perk”, Indiegogo interprets that as meaning you didn’t want to be acknowledged publicly. If you sent money but DO want to be credited, and you’re not on the list, please drop us a line. The same thing goes for donations made via non-Indiegogo routes. (And also if you DO appear on the list but DON’T want to.)

2. Indiegogo’s funder list doesn’t appear to stretch all the way back to the beginning of the fundraiser for some reason (we can only tell that because we remember some very distinctive names who don’t appear on it), so again see  (1).

3. If you made multiple donations that raised you to a higher tier, please also let us know. Cross-referencing hundreds and hundreds of names for every donation would take us into 2015 sometime, and we’ve kinda got important stuff to do between now and then 😀

(3a. Gmail is mindbogglingly awful, so if you sent any special instructions via that method, I “starred” them for future reference, a function which now appears to mean “Make these emails completely invisible forever”. You might want to try a refresher to be safe. Sorry again.)

4. For those who donated to Hero and Saviour level, we’re still figuring out a few small logistical issues with getting your rewards to you. But the special merchandise logo will very likely be a version of the lion shield seen just above the Gandhi quote on our middle column, just to the right of these words.

Admin is horrible. Thanks for your patience.

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    1. Worth every penny. 🙂

    2. dmw42 says:

      I’d like to keep my donations anonymous Rev. I don’t want these bloody Nats finding out I’ve donated via a Swiss bank account.

    3. Craig M says:

      Rev,
      Can you do a piece regarding Unite and the comments by Len McCluskey on Murphy and Alexander. See the New Statesman. McCluskey’s view on these two Scots MPs is quite breathtaking in it’s potential implications. Effectively Unite are whipping the carpet away from under the careers of Jim and Duggie. Strong stuff indeed and without a potential career in the Shadow Cabinet, never mind a future Westminster Government, this might have Murphy and Alexander pondering the future destination of their egos.

    4. Boorach says:

      I note Ian Taylor’s meagre £500,000 hasn’t been attributed….. any particular reason? 🙂

    5. muttley79 says:

      Rev Stu, I made a few donations, but I am not sure which category I am in?  Also, could you use why dog name (muttley) in the credits page?!  Thanks.

    6. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      I’ve added you as a Benefactor, pending one of us working out how much your total was 🙂

    7. Adrian B says:

      I think that the admiration and thanks go in both directions. Having secured decent funding has been good in giving you the time to continue the great work that you have done to date.
       
      It has also secured the important Wings over Scotland site for the readers. The site is important for us as it is for you. Win Win situation all round, everyone is happy and can get on with the job in hand that is securing the best for the future of Scotland.
       
       

    8. muttley79 says:

      @Rev Stu
       
      Thanks, I thought I was in the middle category. 

    9. Aucheorn says:

      Sorry Rev. I’m not on the list,
      2465 25MAR13 , PAYPAL *EBAYJIMMY , 35314369001 GB
      2465 02FEB13 , PAYPAL *EBAYJIMMY , 35314369001 GB

      Maybe save you trawling through thousands of records

    10. mutterings says:

      I think the top perk should have been the opportunity to shake RevStu’s hand (requiring further donations for a flight up north)!

    11. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      What’s the total, Aucheorn?

    12. Morag says:

      Rev, I punted at Hero level on the first day, and then put in the bung that shoved the total over the mark on the last day, I think that was £300.  I don’t know what I get for that lot but don’t stress about it.

    13. CameronB says:

      Sick squid more than me Rev

    14. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “£59”

      Added to Patrons under name “Aucheorn”, let me know if you want a different one.

    15. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “Rev, I punted at Hero level on the first day, and then put in the bung that shoved the total over the mark on the last day, I think that was £300. I don’t know what I get for that lot but don’t stress about it.”

      Yeah, yours were unmarked perk-wise, which is why you’re not on the list. What name do you want added under?

    16. CameronB says:

      I meant less than Aucheron, but ran out of time. That’s £53 from the British state, if you think that might be an appropriate nom de plume and is still available.

    17. Morag says:

      RevStu said:
      Yeah, yours were unmarked perk-wise, which is why you’re not on the list. What name do you want added under?
       
      I went all shrinking violet at the time, but hey why not, put me in under my actual name.  Morag Kerr.

    18. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “I went all shrinking violet at the time, but hey why not, put me in under my actual name. Morag Kerr.”

      Done. And thanks again 🙂

    19. scottish_skier says:

      I believe I bunged you a modest wad Rev in two Paypal instalments  Don’t want people thinking I’m tight after posting on here all the time.

    20. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “I believe I bunged you a modest wad Rev in two Paypal instalments Don’t want people thinking I’m tight after posting on here all the time.”

      Have added you as “Scottish Skier” as a Benefactor.

    21. scottish_skier says:

      Cheers Rev, you can add by name too, i.e. scottish_skier (aka Ross Anderson) if you can be bothered.

      I like SS for general posting though – been my moniker for posting in various places for years. 

    22. Morag says:

      “I went all shrinking violet at the time, but hey why not, put me in under my actual name. Morag Kerr.”
      Done. And thanks again
       
      I’m still hazy how it works.  I think the total of my two donations came to over the “Saviour” amount, but on the other hand did the Saviour status have to be acquired in a single donation?

    23. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “I’m still hazy how it works. I think the total of my two donations came to over the “Saviour” amount, but on the other hand did the Saviour status have to be acquired in a single donation?”

      Nope, it didn’t. Duly upgraded 🙂

    24. Morag says:

      Ah, I thought there was something in the original blurb saying “in one go”, but then you indicated in the discussion that it could be cumulative.  It’s all good.

    25. mealer says:

      I havent donated anything yet.But I hope to send a wee minding next month.

    26. Morag says:

      I think it’s good to have small donations from as many people as possible, rather than just a couple of “angels” backing the whole thing.

    27. themadmurph says:

      Rev,
       
      I want to be a patron with my name in big green letters.  How much more do I need to submit?  It’s petty I know, but it looks better!

    28. Vronsky says:

      @Morag
       
      Yes. The difficulty is in getting people to realise that sending 50 pence is not just acceptable, but wonderful.  Lots of fifty pences make a lot of pounds.  I ran a local lottery for the SNP many years ago – fifty pence a shot, every week.  We could fund our campaigns to the tune of thousands, and not a zillionaire criminal donor in sight.  I always loved that we were funded by our own community, by the people we met every day in the street. We were doing what they paid us to do. 
       

    29. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “I want to be a patron with my name in big green letters. How much more do I need to submit? It’s petty I know, but it looks better!”

      Well, Patron is £57 so that’s only an extra £34, but green letters is Hero level, which is £208, or a whopping £185 on top of Benefactor 🙂

    30. tornface says:

      Hi Rev
      I put in a tenner in the first few days. Worth every penny!  I never comment but am here every day. Thanks for all your hard work.
      Tornface

    31. Donald Kerr says:

      Be honest, Rev. Is
      Anonymous (Hero)
      really Vitol’s Ian Taylor?

    32. pmcrek says:

      Hi Rev, I bunged you two Patrons very early on, I cant remember if I selected the perks though! In the interest of not appearing like a skinflint while posting here all the time would appreciate a pmcrek in that lovely font 🙂

    33. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “I put in a tenner in the first few days.”

      So you did. Added 🙂

    34. Juteman says:

      Not boasting, but i made 3 seperate donations of £20,000 under assumed names.:-)
      Well maybe a little less.

    35. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “Hi Rev, I bunged you two Patrons very early on, I cant remember if I selected the perks though! In the interest of not appearing like a skinflint while posting here all the time would appreciate a pmcrek in that lovely font”

      Done 🙂

      (I’ve just used a whole year’s worth of smileys in one day…)

    36. Silverytay says:

      I donated ‘ not because I wanted to see my name in print but because it was the right thing to do .  Must add that it is nice to see my name in print for a cause .

    37. Juteman says:

      OT, but have a look at dear Effies post on Open Unionism. Unfortunately, they don’t let you comment anymore.
      We Independistas are often accused of living in the past, but her latest post takes the biscuit for cuddly, romantic shite. I agree with some of what she has written, but what relevance does it have to the future?

    38. Albert Herring says:

      Hi Rev.
      I made several donations of up to £10,000. What do I get?

    39. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      Define “up to” 😀

    40. antmcg says:

      Hi Rev,
      Donated £20 via google wallet.. i hate paypal lol   real name being Anthony McGregor.

       Order date: 6 Feb 2013 22:40 GMT 
       Google order number: 913656901218233

      Thanks for everything you have done, and continue to do for Scotland 🙂
       
       

    41. Albalha says:

      Scarce postings. To be frank, I’m worried. If we don’t seize the day on 18/09/14 then I’m out of here, anywhere warmer. Cos we’re well fucked.
      Reading this site I reckon me and Rev would, probably, end up in a shouting match. I’m a DEE he’ a DON, there we are. Yes, yes simplistic footballing referencing, but did you follow the German sides in the ChampionEEEEEEzzzzzzzz………………………..
      So, Rev, this post of yours makes me realise I’d like an ALBALHA reference. The initial cheque, maybe £35, then a couple of £ 20 plus pledges ……. whatever it is I think I’m over some line………maybe, to be honest, can’t remember, it seemed to change rather often.
      Never have quite worked out what your REV thing is, loathe (not A Massie loath) Aberdeeen as a place to live but hope, beyond hope, we say YES.
       
      Regards to all, Alison Balharry, BBC, Editor Lesley Riddoch, Aljazeera, survivor of father’s dementia, helper of SNP media policy ………………. blah, blah, blah. **
       
      ** All former positions.
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       

    42. themadmurph says:

      Stu,
      I also had previously sent £10 – 1999222 – so is that only another £175 for my green letters?  I better start saving!

    43. Frances says:

      Hi Rev! MajorBloodnok and Frances are joint heroes.  I think that means he wears the spandex jump suit one week and me the other. Jeannie, control yourself (smiley thingy)

    44. MajorBloodnok says:

      Pipe down there Franco.
       
      AND whilst we’re on, I’m also on the list as a supporter BA Cuthbert.  Following S_S’s example can you make that Brian “MajorBloodnok” Cuthbert?  I think it looks cool and I’m ready to come out of the closet (no relation to Jim Cuthbert by the way….).

      (PS My turn this week).

    45. themadmurph says:

      @Albalha I said the same thing to a friend a few weeks ago.  If we don’t have the balls and the brains to vote yes, I’m out!
      It’s not the unknown that scares me, it’s what I do know and what is coming down the line if we stay tied to the UK.  You can bet your bottom dollar, pound or whatever currency, that the UK will make sure we never get another shot at this!

    46. ianbrotherhood says:

       
      Good piece by Jonathon Shafi over on BellaC -‘Osborne’s Toxic Legacy’.
       
      Ian Smart has lobbed in a gratuitously provocative ‘comment’ which some of you may be interested in discussing with him. 
       
      Just out of interest – has that c-c-character ever posted here? If so, what happened? (I’m wondering what he’s all about after seeing him on the box at the weekend, and reading his nasty swipe at National Collective last week.)
       
      http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2013/04/25/osbornes-toxic-legacy/#comment-26003

    47. DMW42 says:

      Stu, I’ve just donated £50 via Paypal. Add this to my Paypal donations on 14/2 and 4/3, but don’t tell Ian Brotherhood that the funds are transferred from a Lietchenstein bank account.
       
      Best wishes to all
      David Wilson

    48. Albert Herring says:

      Define “up to”
      It was £63 under various aliases on top of the fiver a month.

    49. Macart says:

      @ianbrotherhood
       
      Ach he’s not worth it and my mither said you shouldn’t mock people less fortunate.

    50. Macart says:

      Rev
       
      I don’t want anything. I didn’t do much and I only wish it could have been more.
       
      Just keep on keepin’ on

    51. ianbrotherhood says:

       
      @Albalha-
       
      Was it the BBC Radio Scotland Riddoch Show you worked on?
       
      Don’t mean to be nosey, just asking. Reason is – first time I ever sent an e-mail to any MSM outlet was Riddoch’s show when she had McLeish and Jim Wallace. I can’t even remember what year it was, but way back, maybe ’99 or 2000?
       
      If you were working on that, you’ll have a rough idea what I’m on about.

    52. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      DMW42, Albert: added with thanks 🙂

    53. Albalha says:

      @IanBrotherhood
      I was recruited for the start of the Riddoch programme 1999 as a producer, then became Editor, then off to R4, to be honest don’t remember the complaint, but interested to know more.
      What was your McLeish/Wallace query?
      And Rev, any response to my post above?
       
       

    54. tornface says:

      PS I love Hamish, I Think you’re missing a marketing opportunity. 
       

    55. CameronB says:

      I obviously can’t read. If I up my whack to Patron Rev., as The British State, can I have mine flashing. A looped in animated explosion would be nice as well. Or simply vanishing. 🙂

    56. ianbrotherhood says:

       
      @Albalha-
       
      It was a ‘special’ show because Jim Wallace and Henry McLeish were both there, representing the coalition.
       
      I emailed in a question. (It was the first time I’d ever done it, after following the show pretty much since it’d started, and we’d not long had access to e-mail at home – it was still a big thrill even to be connected.)
       
      The question was...’If they’re still visible through all the smoke and mirrors, can you please ask these men to outline one proposal aimed at reducing child poverty in this country?’
       
      After I sent the message I waited and waited, listened to the pair of them rambling on about this that and t’other. Lesley, if I remember rightly, was having a bit of a laugh with them, winding them up a bit. (There was also a telly crew present at some point, as images appeared on that night’s News.)
       
      Anyway, I’d given up any hope of my question being used, thought it was probably too cheeky, but then Lesley used it, right at the end. You could hear her smiling, she knew it was a sticky one, and when she finished reading it she just stopped….dead air…for a good few seconds…neither wanted to answer, and there was some ‘you go first’ mumbling before, I think, McLeish, cracked first and trotted out something.
       
      For me, it was like that movie, (Broadcast News ?) when the guy phones in the stats about the fighter planes and the presenter uses them ‘live’. 
       
      I had a good few Lambrinis that night!

    57. Daisy says:

      Rev,
       
      I donated £20 + monthly + cafe press = over £60. Give this long suffering Dons fan a nod =]
      Tak

    58. Bill C says:

      o/t – Anybody heard anything about a supposed game changer in tomorrow’s Hootsman?

    59. Bill C says:

      To answer my own question, apparently Peter McMahon is claiming a “blockbusting story” in tomorrow’s Hootsman.

    60. Morag says:

      What, BT are going to spam another 300,000 mobile phones with a fake poll?

    61. Adrian B says:

      @ Bill C,
       
      if blockbusting means huge sales for the Scotsman, then I find that would be unlikely. Its the Scotsman so its going to be a load of rubbish presented as if it was fact. Alistair Darling will be proud. Don’t even click the web site. 

    62. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “Give this long suffering Dons fan a nod =]”

      Done 🙂

    63. Adrian B says:

      Scotsman Story via twitter & picture of Friday edition front cover:
       
      https://twitter.com/Gareth_Rose/status/327530427474644992/photo/1
       
      Its a rehash of a Story the Scotsman likes to run with – figures and SPECULATION provided by the Institute of chartered Accountants of Scotland (ICAS)
       
      Scotsman trailing story as some sort of Indy game changer. Its not.

    64. CameronB says:

      @ Marcia
      🙂 🙂

    65. Marcia says:

      Interesting:
       
      http://newsnetscotland.com/index.php/scottish-opinion/7268-trade-unionists-coming-out-for-yes
       
      What is certain is that there is a considerable shift in the trade union movement. Influential figures are working for a Yes vote behind the scenes, unable to publicly endorse independence just yet and certainly not before their unions have had that debate. Several use the expression “coming out for independence”.

    66. Morag says:

      Bwahahahaha!

      (That was about the faux-Hootsmon front page, obviously.)

    67. Bill C says:

      Should have known better guys, usual Hootsman lies and also headlines in the Torygraph. Guaranteed shite!

    68. Morag says:

      They’re having a laugh, surely?  As someone who had been expecting to collect her pension later this year, but for Labour and Tory betrayals, independence is my Great White Hope for avoiding penury when I finally do make it to retirement – now some years in the future.

    69. ianbrotherhood says:

       
      @Marcia-
       
      Great stuff.
       
      Any responsible newspaper would have that on the front page.
       
      Instead? :
       
      ‘The Scrotum can reveal that Alex Salmond has instructed his maniacal followers to invade all pensioners’ homes and rifle their mattresses.’
       
      You’ll be familiar with the work TUFI has already been doing, so it seems reasonable to assume that the behind-the-scenes patter has been ongoing for a wee while. It’s unimaginable that such chatter isn’t getting to the Scotlab hierarchy – fair enough, they’re shackled by Milliband’s people, so can’t do much anyway…
       
      But that doesn’t mean individual members and unions in Scotland are shackled. They can act, and – if they really want to? – they will.
       

    70. Midgehunter says:

      Hi Rev. I sent a donation of 30 Euros over but directly to the WOS account and not via the ind….. thingy. So did quite a few others.
      Where do they get their “Songs of praise” halos?  😉
       
      Not looking for glory or anything but just asking for some of the other “little” guys who contribute in their own way.
       
      Another donation will be along soon when the customers finally pay their bills ….!

    71. Turnbull Drier says:

      Rev,
       
      More lawyers letters I see…
       
      http://www.bbc.scotlandshire.co.uk/index.php/city-news/371-we-are-forced-to-take-legal-action-against-scurrilous-separatist-website.html
       
      You are stating to get a reputation 😛
       

    72. Albalha says:

      @ianbrotherhood
      Interesting tale, though admit I can’t remember the programme. Of course now we have unlistenable drivel. I know some people think football gets too much coverage but, imo, it’s the best thing they do.
      The head to head between Tom English and John Brown, this week, was great radio.
      Gone are the days when it comes to political and social life in Scotland.
       

    73. Linda's Back says:

      Hootsman headlining Accountants scare story over pensions. 
      Yesterday MPs criticised the UK tax authorities cosy links with the big accounting firms that help companies avoid tax. The public accounts committee report is a damning indictment of the Treasury and tax officials. Some £25.5bn remains uncollected from disputes with 2,700 companies using schemes promoted by accountants. Imagine how that would help the economy. 

      As any investment company will testify Scots save and invest more per head and have less mortgage commitments than the rest of the UK. So why shouldn’t private pension schemes continue to be funded to the same extent after independence. These Accountancy leaders should be telling George Osborne to stop scaremongering and causing uncertainty over currency. Such scaremongering eventually becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy but that’s what the no campaign wants.

       Government figures suggested that Scotland’s population share of UK public sector net debt in 2017-18 would be equivalent to 72% of Scotland’s national wealth. This would be lower than the equivalent UK figure of 77%.On independence, Scotland would continue to pay the same benefits and tax credits as across the UK and protect the state pension. You will then elect Scottish Government who will be responsible for future changes to the welfare system, allowing us to reverse damaging changes such as the ‘bedroom tax’.

      Government figures show that the current bill for benefits, state pension and other tax credits in Scotland, uses 38% of taxes raised in Scotland. For the UK as a whole, the bill is slightly larger at 42.3% of UK taxes. This means we are better able to afford our welfare system than the UK.

      And Education, Health, Police, Fire and Civil Service pensions are already paid from the Scottish government budget.

    74. ianbrotherhood says:

       
      @Albalha-
       
      Aye, ‘drivel’ pretty much sums it up. 
       
      Used to enjoy the Colin Bell programme in the afternoon. Just checked him on Wikipedia, seems he was quite a big shot in the SNP. Impossible to imagine someone like him getting a gig on Radio Scotland these days.
       
      It’s sad.

    75. Albalha says:

      @ianb
      Indeed. Seems the qualification needed these days is to be something, somewhere on the tele or of course have played a sport, a must for all budding news programme presenters.
      On C Bell his son was good as well.

    76. Seasick Dave says:

      Another lie from Jim Murphy:
       
      The strange thing aout the Len Mcluskey outburst is that people usually meet me first and then don’t like me. We’ve never met.
       
      I despise the man and I’ve never met him.

    77. Inbhir Anainn says:

      Not on the list as well Rev positive i donated twice via paypal, both times were of the benefactor category although the second time i may have used a different name.  Would appreciate if you would include me in the list of benefactor names as Inbhir Anainn.

    78. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      Midgehunter, Inbhir: added.

    79. HighlandMartin says:

      I intend to donate 4 shiny pound coins.  They have been steeping in HP brown sauce overnight and I then polish them vigorously.  They will be deposited in my account and a donation made via some electronic means.
      No dirty money from me Sir.

    80. velofello says:

      Rev. i don’t want anything due to my contribution but I would like to buy some Wee lion stuff. Any progress with Chris on marketing? Why not have a word with Yes Scotland?
       

    81. Since there already seems to be a wide variety of comments on this thread, its seems as good a place as any to ask an off-topic question.
       
      Is anyone who posts on here going to be on the Yes Scotland stall in the Murraygate in Dundee tomorrow? I’m planning to pop along to see what information I can pick up.

    82. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “Rev. i don’t want anything due to my contribution but I would like to buy some Wee lion stuff. Any progress with Chris on marketing?”

      Yes. The specific amount is “a bit”.

    83. Albalha says:

      Couldn’t resist a wee peek at my name in lights, well sort of bold black. It struck me, as I read through the lists, it’s a male dominated site?
      What’s that about I wonder. Clearly more men than women have made up their minds to vote YES, though still surprised at the paucity of women.
      Suppose I’ll have to try harder to persuade the Scottish sisterhood.
       

    84. Indion says:

       
      Rev Stu
      Thanks for finding my ‘missing’ donation, as now accounted for by PayPal too 🙂

    85. Kevin Rowbotham says:

      I donated as a Benefactor on the 6th of Feb and may have slipped off the radar due to a combination of 1 and 2.

    86. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “I donated as a Benefactor on the 6th of Feb and may have slipped off the radar due to a combination of 1 and 2.”

      Not any more you haven’t 🙂



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