Tory Idiot Of The Week
We’re clearly going to have to make this a regular feature.
And it’s not as though the competition isn’t stiff.
This, for example – even by Murdo “God Save The Queen’s 11” Fraser’s standards – is a remarkably open and brazen display of sectarian dog-whistling.
For those of you, like us, who had to look it up:
So that’s triumphalist Brexit sneering, tying football to religion AND flat-out factual inaccuracy (Celtic are by no means out of Europe – they still have two games in the Champions League left and are likely finish third in their group and therefore be in the Europa League after Christmas) all in a single 20-word tweet. An impressive feat of efficient bigotry and stupidity, if nothing else.
But of course, Scottish Labour are rarely outdone in the dribbling-clownery stakes.
(The timeline of Kelly, former Labour Lord Provost of Glasgow and one of the Celtic directors who took the club to the brink of bankruptcy in the early 1990s, is an eternally reliable fount of jaw-dropping buffoonery on any subject you can think of.)
They’re usually more careful about pretending to oppose the Tories than this, too:
And we were also somewhat startled, after a series of Daily Record columns by former leader Kezia Dugdale demanding that men take the lead in tackling sexism, at the response from Scottish Labour types when some men took the lead in tackling sexism.
Particularly as both the Presiding Officer (elected as a Labour MSP) who chaired the meeting and the official representative sent by Labour were, um, men, despite half of the party’s MSPs being female and presumably available for the job.
Sadly, of course, as Annie Wells demonstrated so ably at the start of this article (perhaps the first time she’s done anything ably since being sort-of elected last year), switching the gender of Unionist M/SPs in Scotland is no guarantee of a higher IQ.
Unionists were clearly at the back of the queue when brains were being given out. And when they got to the front, clearly they had ran out.
Ken Macintosh isn’t wearing a poppy. Burn him!
I’d remember this though as, almost certainly, it won’t be long until Scottish Labour are complaining about someone not wearing one.
For people who are lucky to be in their jobs, Wells and Fraser do some amount of complaining about the country which pays them. Almost always without foundation. Shouldn’t a loved one ( there may be some ) tell them to refrain from posting until they’ve checked them for stupidness?
Dumb and dumber.
Is it me,. or is it a Tory over there, in the dunces corner?
Oh dear God!
Every one a winner near as I can see. The out and out idiocy and lack of either empathy or understanding on display is simply jaw dropping.
@One_Scot
The problem is that a certain cadre of politicians got where they are by a sort of low cunning and the deployment of sharp elbows. In addition any sort of free thinking gets weeded out of contention or squashed flat once elected. Jeremy Corbyn and Dennis Skinner are remarkable in that they are still around despite being the awkward squad.
While the SNP do seem to have garnered the cream of the crop, largely, and adherence to group discipline seems voluntary and in pursuit of a goal I do worry that they will become prone to selecting that sort of person in the future.
As if Ruth does not have enough to worry about, Murdo Fraser has just woken up and is at his bigoted, biased best on twitter and it is not the first time – will there be an tories left at all.
The bbc of course leads with the ‘catalogue’ of sexism offences in Holyrood, yet the PO states there are ‘no active cases’ but Amwar, a lawyer who should know better is still going on about the large number of offences, where is the evidence? A lawyer making accusations without producing proof and the MSM have him on TV and radio at every turn.
Anyone and anything to say snp baaad and distract from the serious situation that is only now being called out (despite being known about for decades) in WM where we seem to be governed by drunken, misogynistic leering males who obviously do not have enough work to do and are getting drunk partly at our expense. Why are the bars open while the house is sitting – I dont recall any bars staying open for back-shift and night-shift workers anywhere.
Never mind all those who do Scotland down and decry the snp can await their letter in the post and their ‘honour’ or ermine.
Dr NO! is a spook/plant but Lord Foulkes? UK Lords is now the world’s second biggest entirely unelected legislature, only outdone by China?
Tories don’t lie surely.
When is someone to call out Davidson on the blatant lie she told on the Marr program regarding the 6 week waiting time for UC I tried but she will not answer email I sent her.
These British nationalists are pathetic. Arrogant and ignorant. They only survive because of the British nationalist media.
No one should be able to become an MP, MSP or any other political position until they have gone through a psychiatry course that hypnotises them to never tell lies, or as politicians to only tell half truths. Half truths being better than no truth.
The majority of our so called leaders must be embarrassed at themselves when they look in the mirror. Mind you this is not a problem for some as their mirror would always break if they looked at it.
The future of their Union depends on these characters?
There must be a Plan B.
Interesting Ruth making any comment about sex and harrasment.
She revelled in crude sexual innuendo while speaking to Tory colleagues. Grinning like a Cheshire Cat for her moments of fleeting glory.
I think Wells is in some sort of competition with Baillie and Rennie as to who can be the most dense. That said, Willie has been very quiet recently, a sign of some developing wisdom?
Murdo is a reactionary, sectarian buffoon and an utter and total gift.
Kelly is just a joke, albeit a very bitter joke. That most pathetic of stances that considers the illegal actions of the Irish uprising as just and glorious and everybody else’s uprising as sedition. A hypocrite of the first order.
A friend of my had a fav saying, he has been dead many years now, but his saying still applies to this day, he used to say, if they had brains they would be dangerous, very apt for these stupid people
It would fit Murdo Fraser better if he had the grace to acknowledge that the Reformation in Scotland ushered in world leading legislation emancipating women by allowing divorce and a woman’s right to own property without her husband’s consent. These reforms were introduced when Scotland was independent and took place some 400 hundred years before English women had similar rights.
Macart 10.54am.what is even more jaw dropping and beyond comprehension,is that people in Scotland vote for these creeps.
It is scarcely believable that folk actually put an x in a box ( in some cases)to elect these buffoons. I cannot help but think of all the aspects of human nature we have witnessed from these clowns, including racism, bigotry and xenophobia, and yet here they are telling us to get our house in order.
They are the bottom of a very large dung heap.
Billy Connolly may have turned into an establishment sell out, but you cannot help feel he had it pretty accurate when he once said…
“The very desire to become a * politician should automatically bar you from ever becoming one”
He missed out one word and that would have been perfect…*unionist.
I think there must be a outbreak of rabies in the unionist ranks.
They all seem effected.
Class. Sheer class.
You Rev. No’ those clowns.
And we have to pay for this bunch of numbnuts?
BREAKING from Pravda Quay
with Jackie Kim Ono
link to imgur.com
O/T
Tomorrow is the fiftieth anniversary of the event that set us on the road. Has the SNP forgotten?
link to youtube.com
Oh Christ it’s never ending , the total bilge these clowns spout daily , the idea these cretins are out mixing with normal people , and the joke is we are financially supporting them , most of them would be hard pushed to do a real job .
Delighted to see Stu’s good news (although any other outcome would have been insanity). Hopefully all will be back to full steam ahead and the accuser can get back to writing about planet Earth’s imminent demise from planet Niribu or something.
HandandShrimp at 11.48
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Looking at the execrable standard of unionist MSPs I really can’t help wondering if its deliberate.
By that I mean its all part of the “too stupid” part of the mantra – “look at these morons guys, how can you possibly run a country with clueless idiots like this?”
It the only thing that explains fuckwits like Wells being almost the norm – either that or she’s blackmailing someone to get on the list….
Wells is of course the sprout-brained dunce who appeared on TV to inform us that she does not recognise the authority of the Parliament in which she sits, although she is happy to be remunerated handsomely by said Parliament.
@mike d
These very same self appointed guardians of the moral low ground accuse the SNP and YES movement of divisiveness and yet on display we’ve got sexism, tribalism and sectarianism within a handful of tweets. Oh and let us not forget some good old disingenuous, openly deceitful horse shit from those who should know both their brief and their current politics better.
Them’s your choices folks. Politics their way or maybe well beyond time for a change? After all their practice of politics has worked out so well for everyone.
Dave McEwan Hill @11,57M
“A spokesman (For the Met Police) said: “On August 18 a man aged in his 40s was arrested at an address in the Avon and Somerset area on suspicion of harassment and malicious communications.
“He has now been informed that he is released with no further action.”
It says a lot about Murdo Fraser’s agenda that he can recall Reformation day. I mean it’s not something that springs to mind, is it? unless of course you see it as some sort of important date or milestone.
No doubt Murdo Fraser is also into Calvanism, and Presbyterianism, and can recall important dates to do with them also.
Sorry O/T,
Glad for you Rev. to see the ridiculous harassment saga has been (rightly) dropped. This outcome highlights the desperate lengths some folks will go to because of a grudge, and said person should quite rightly feel a bit embarrassed at the backfire of attempted smears against yourself, the stressful impact on a persons life, and for the time wasted.
Apart from these two idiots and their ranting nonsense when and how were these emission figures measured because anybody who knows London knows you can hardly breathe half the time so was it Monday morning rush hour in Glasgow for a measurement and a Sunday afternoon in a London park for theirs
It’s an easy SNP Baad headline but London is a sprawling mass of toxicity Monday to Friday so much so they’re coming up with ideas to charge folk for breathing it
In comparison Glasgow’s pretty small and apart from Hope street and a couple of others can’t possibly compare to London, standing at a bus stop in London for an hour with your lips practically wrapped around exhaust pipes could be fatal with more diesel taxis and buses standing still spewing out clouds of stuff and that’s without counting the millions of folk with bad breath stuck up against you everywhere you turn
Are they hoping some folk haven’t actually been to London recently? They have smog for God sake
It is not coincidence that all the dodgy, undeclared, or untraceable donations are to parties on the right, or right wing causes.
Dodgy money, dodgy people, dodgy agendas. Rules are for the little people, not the special entitled classes.
Scottish Tories were not at all keen when the introduction of LEZs was announced back in January.
link to archive.is
“Scottish Conservative transport spokesman Liam Kerr said: “This particular move would punish motorists and businesses – two groups the SNP has already got it in for.
“Hammering those who can only get to work by car would be extremely unfair, and send out the wrong message altogether.” ”
Anyone who is pro indy and has so much as a parking ticket,will be scrutinised and vilified by these unionist vermin.
Andy-B
I wonder if Murdo was one of those who had to go and change his PIN after seeing Trainspotting2 🙂
Sort of O/T. Why isn’t there a huge outcry about the reduction of HoC seats to 600 whilst HoL membership increases almost weekly?
In Scotland we are to have 50, instead of 59 [used to be over 70] and the proposal for the North is only ONE seat for the whole area north of Inverness! We have until 11th December to let the Scottish Boundary Commission know what we think.
And Rev, your release from under that black cloud is the best news I’ve had since…er… can’t remember something as pleasing, actually!
You can view a “real time” air quality map for the United Kingdom here. Works perfectly in Explorer but not properly in Chrome on my machine.
A simple glance shows that the air quality in Scotland, even in the central belt, is far superior to that in other areas of the UK.
link to aqicn.org
I’ve taken a total neck beamer reading this…what a total shower of numpties. Embarrassed for them.
Yoghurt for brains, the lot of them.
Kezia Dugdale lecturing others for being by standers in her Rancid column She’s the feking by stander by not reporting theses abuses that she claims to be privy to .
The voting system that lets almost completely unrepresentative people like Annie Wells (with the vote of about 1 person in 12 on her FPTP effort)into parliament needs looking at.
I can see a case for representation of parties that make up a significant proportion of support in identified areas but there surely has to be a base line.
O/T
link to indyref2.scot
The United Kingdom has gone from a failing state to a flailing state, desperately stuggling to find a justification for its continued existence. Oh look, a ginger topped prince may be getting engaged to somebody called Meghan….there’s Strictly and Christmas is coming thanks to the Coca Cola company….what a relief!
Well they have form that’s for sure, these Britnats. Vote down any attempts by SNP Gov to improve air quality, or anything in fact, then complain in public that the SNP are very bad for not doing what the Britnats stopped them doing to improve air quality or anything else for the people of Scotland.
Anyone who hasn’t cottoned on to Britnat tactics yet has to get thwir head out of the sand and take their blinkers off, else the Britnats really will succeed at ruining and laying waste to Scotland.
I spoke to someone when testing for asthma, who said his brother works in London in respiratory and it is getting worse by the day re pollution. People are really suffering there due to air pollution that the Britnats seem to not be too bothered about.
Great air quality map there btw, thanks Alex Clark @1.02pm.
@Bob Mack says: 1 November, 2017 at 11:33 am:
” … They are the bottom of a very large dung heap.”
I know exactly what you mean, Bob, but you got the analogy wrong.
They are actually the TOP of a very large dung heap.
The purpose of making a large dung heap is the put the fresh dung on the top and the actions of the heap, including self generated heat, does away with the worst effects of fresh dung.
Which is also why farmers turn the heap from time to time. It moves the fresh shit down to hotter levels.
However, no matter what else, the heap is all total shit anyway.
Now I expect someone to comment that I’m just talking a load of shit – as usual.
;-))
Article in the Dundee Tele. No action to be taken. As we all predicted.
Pro-independence blogger to face no action over online harassment claims
link to eveningtelegraph.co.uk
Well you started out at the beginning of reporting Scotland as Stuart Campbell and ended up as Mr Stuart
I think I was a bit slow with the news having just checked Stu’s twitter. 🙂 I wonder if it will receive as widespread coverage as his arrest did. I won’t hold my breath.
@Robert Peffers
@Bob Mack
… and we mustn’t forget the shambles we see around us, literally a bloody mess.
To any newbies lurking, try and avoid helping to finance the Unionist BUM rag in the post at 1:40pm by clicking on the direct link. That rag regularly craps all over Scotland and our cause, so why anyone would want to help finance it is beyond me.
Meanwhile, one of our big guns sadly bows out of the fight:
link to indyref2.scot
@William Wallace says: 1 November, 2017 at 1:40 pm:
“Article in the Dundee Tele. No action to be taken. As we all predicted.
Pro-independence blogger to face no action over online harassment claims”
link to eveningtelegraph.co.uk
BBC text service now also carrying the story. Fame indeed.
;-))
Competition for the title is extremely keen! I am grateful to the Rev for pointing out that Michael Kelly and Lord George Foulkes are still working away at the coalface. They had slipped off my radar but I will need to reinstate them to help illuminate the dark autumnal nights.
I watch the Labour crème de la crème sniping weakly weekly at the First Minister on Thursdays but surely their supreme all time champ has to be James Kelly as he delivers his devastating party pieces.
Is he related to Michael?
@ Stoker 2:04
The only reason I included the Dundee tele link is because archive.is has not been working correctly for me of late.
@ Robert 🙂
Have misreporting Scotland checked in yet? 😉
I noticed on Stu’s Twitter that Dr Von Scott was dismayed that 6 men and 1 woman met to discuss sexism and harassment In Holyrood. If I was still a Labour voter I would be perplexed that Labour sent James Kelly too.
Man does Nothing – continues to be innocent, evidently doesn’t fit as a headline….
Still I’m sure they enjoyed a fishing expedition through your world, ya know, just in case they want to find you did something at a later stage.
Anyone else find it funny that the BBC runs these stories about male harassment 24/7 while keeping very quiet about their own position and history on the issue.
O/T
President of European Parliament Antonio Tajani, speaking of Puigdemont:
“Tajani noted that Carles Puigdemont came to Brussels as a European citizen to enjoy all freedoms. Tajani added that Puigdemont had not escaped the dictatorship such as North Korea or Venezuela. On the contrary, Spain is an example of true democracy. The ousted leader Catalonia violated both the laws of Catalonia, and the constitution of the EU member state.
At the same time, the head of the EP considers that the EU should not be concerned about Carles Puigdemont’s fate.”
link to archive.is
Stick the boot in EU, why don’t you?
BBC News -> Scotland section of the website is carrying it but not on the other “national” sections even though the blogger lives in Bath.
link to bbc.co.uk
Hell slap it into them Stu. Scintillating, nay, one is on mesmeric form today!
‘No further action’ in Stu’s case means further action would not be in the interests of the British Establishment.
Glad an happy see that the police down your way, have seen sense and dropped all charges against you.
Although we were confident in your confidence of “no case to answer” it more than pleasing to realise that you’ll be unfettered to continue the fight for Scotland’s rightful place among the nations of the world, as a independent nation.
If “officialdom” can react and come to a conclusion in a relatively short space of time, why then did it take so long to come to a decision on the three S.N.P. M.P.s ?, one of which is still awaiting a final decision I believe.
Shurely there’s lots more than ONE Tory idiot of the week?
“I wonder if Murdo was one of those who had to go and change his PIN after seeing Trainspotting2 ”
Apologies HandandShrimp, I’ve not seen Trainspotting 2 yet, so the puns went right over my head.
You’d think any New Rangers fan would have some sense of self-awareness and avoid gloating comments about a far superior side’s European matches, given they were papped oot by the FOURTH best side in Luxembourg!
@Alex Clark
RE: EU
Nope. Not impressed one bit by their actions to date. Mind you, international politics – there are no friends, only mutual interests at best and private advantage the rest of the time between governments.
There are days you can desperately despair of humanity.
Now that the his alleged transgressions online have been dismissed, I wonder if The Rev is free to now tell us what it was about so we can judge for ourselves. I, for one, haven’t a clue what happened.
HandandShrimp says:
1 November, 2017 at 2:28 pm
I noticed on Stu’s Twitter that Dr Von Scott was dismayed that 6 men and 1 woman met to discuss sexism and harassment In Holyrood. If I was still a Labour voter I would be perplexed that Labour sent James Kelly too.
So was oor Ruthie too busy auditioning for the circus or practising her baking to turn up?
The Unionist parties have clearly exhausted the very limited pool of humans – you know, those with empathy, compassion and foresight – in their fold, and after scraping the bottom of the barrel, poking a hole through it, digging the ground under it, they’re now rummaging into the deeper rounds of hell for rotten souls.
Paedophiles, fraudsters, attempted murderers, sectarians, racists and sociopaths, all have passed vetting and scrutiny. Do we expect those who are supposedly their superiors to be better than them, and capable of looking after our towns, cities and country’s interest when they can’t protect their own party from such lowlives?
That no humans are willing to put themselves forward for them says how FUBAR they are.
It’s time to go on the attack. No mercy.
@Macart
The real issue I have with these “leaders” of the various EU departments have told us that this is an “internal matter for Spain”.
Then in total contradiction they have all expressed loudly their support for Rajoy and the Spanish government, while at the same time condemning Puigdemont and the elected Catalan government.
If it’s “an internal matter for Spain” then they should STFU and keep their noses out of other peoples business, not choose to take sides!
Kelly and foulkes, yesterday’s dinosaurs that offer zilch in understanding, awareness or relevance…asking Tricia marwick to explain her actions to a jumped up buffoon beggars belief…he’s a legend in his own lunchtime, vino included no doubt…How Wells can be allowed to pontificate when she clearly doesn’t recognise scotlands parliament or it’s legitimacy is a farce..she should retract or reaffirm her vows…well mr macintosh?
“Tory idiot of the week”
Think you are being a little optimistic there, Rev. It’s only Wednesday!
Hey – Kezia .
HES BACK !
Any comment Son of Fluffy ? .
@Alex Clark
As I said only a few days ago, they need to be aware that whatever happens next, people will be watching their governments. I probably should have added ‘and judging’ when you come to think about it.
Humanity, empathy, care aren’t serving suggestions. You have to walk the walk. You can’t take any politician or government seriously who bangs on about societal care and ethics, if at the first sign of an injustice they about face because it doesn’t suit their personal agenda.
The law isn’t always right or in the right. It isn’t always good or for the good of all. Some of the worst crimes in humanity’s history have been perpetrated in the name and letter of the law. Hiding behind it can be an even worse crime.
Every lickspittle…
link to imgur.com
harry mcaye says:
“You’d think any New Rangers fan would have some sense of self-awareness…”
harry, WADR, WATP don’t do self awareness even at the best of times and never where the former European Cup holders from Parkhead are concerned.
Most of what WATPIbrox do is usually described in a sentence containing the word ‘mindless’.
Ps. When 40,000 turn up after the liquidation of RFC at a Scottish 3rd Division match every week dressed in red, white and blue with a splash of orange then you know that it’s for more than a football game – it’s a practice for the Twelfth of July in Belfast, and not even liquidation is allowed to stand in the way of that.
Pps. As for Reformation Day – time for a dose of reality. Scottish protestantism is about 1690 for the majority, most of whom probably think Martin Luther is a possible new signing from the English lower leagues.
Ppps. The Ibrox club is in close proximity to another insolvency event. That’s self-awareness.
Is the complainant to be charged with wasting police time?
link to caltonjock.com
Now the police have confirmed no action will be taken over allegations of online harrassment I assume they will be considering whether or not to press charges against the complainant for waste of police time.
Anyone with half a brain (does that exclude unionists?) knows there was no merit to this and it was politically inspired. I do not see why they should be allowed to get away with wasting taxpayers money.
admiral
With 40 Tory MPs in the firing line I would expect Ruth Davidson will keep out of the way on any committees dealing with this issue.
Andy B
I won’t do any spoilers – it will makes sense when you see it 🙂
The E.U. Say it is an internal matter for Spain that was not their attitude towards Scotland they were lining up to talk down our bid for freedom I them and it seems the rest of the world aye all these leaders of the so called free world???
Sky – “Liam Fox: Don’t be afraid of US chlorinated chicken after Brexit
The International Trade Secretary believes consumers shouldn’t be worried about American-produced meat entering UK supermarkets.”
Then, why are the currently banned? Why isn’t the EU awash with cheap US food products?
I voted Remain for a good many reasons, and high on my list was EU food standards.
Why isn’t there a ‘Tory Idiot of the Hour’?
Pity the EU has shown itself to be a paper tiger on democracy. It is just a big shopping club and little more. A good shopping club without doubt but a shopping club none the less.
It is less than useless as a moral political force and I don’t think we or the Catalans should look to the EU for leadership or support. It just isn’t that sort of political entity.
To be honest if we secure Indy we should stick with Norway and Iceland and just have an associate membership of the shopping club.
The British Nationalists have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to entering candidates for the weekly Fool of the Week competition. Just a few of the leading lights would be:
Annie Wells (almost in a league of her own);
Miles Briggs;
Jamie Greene (spectacularly dim);
James Kelly;
Murdo Fraser;
Anas Sarwar;
Willie Rennie;
Monica something (the Labour equivalent of Wells – I can’t remember her name but she is addicted to making a fool of herself as publicly as possible);
Tank Top Davidson (always a reliable dolt).
Handandshrimp. Inclined to agree with you there. That lot (EU) have never done us any favours.
I see GA Ponsonby has wrote his last article (or so he says) for personal reasons, but I can’t help feeling it’s as much disillusionment with the YES movement as anything else
maybe it’s just me
Whatever religion Murdo Fraser claims to follow, he does it little credit!
@Marcia says:
1 November, 2017 at 4:21 pm
Why isn’t there a ‘Tory Idiot of the Hour’?
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The Rev has to eat and sleep occasionally.
Georeg Foulkes: Yer Other national Drunk
re: EU / Catalonia
Their hands are tied. If they intervened then euro-sceptics would right complain about them interfering in sovereign nations affairs.
The real issue is the outdated Spanish constitution which is being us a shield to avoid answering the Catalan question. Even if he wanted to offer a legal referendum Rajoy is unable to do so without Spain consenting to new constitution.
Rather than blame EU we should be blaming the member states who refuse to condone Spains actions. We should also be looking to the UN – they have guidelines on self determination and are the appropriate organisation to apply pressure.
Doug.
Scotland is beset by low-brow yoon MSPs. What have we done to deserve this?
Lol, I think Murdo is another Tory attaining a mastery of zen in his art though. 🙂
link to thatssozen.blogspot.co.uk
@ Robert Graham Whit dae ye mean he’s back. he Stu hudnae gone away . It wont be easy for Kezia to withdraw Cashinggg .
There is no Unionist village idiot in Holyrood
they all get a turn
Equal opportunities
@Handandshrimp
Have to agree with that assessment.
I’ve long argued for patience on the issue. Be open to the arguments at a more appropriate time.
TBH my vote was up for grabs on the EU issue when, as an independent Scotland, we could have a more grown up conversation. I have to admit at this point that they are rapidly making my mind up for me.
The wardrope’s keeping spitting them out like woodworms
link to glasgowlive.co.uk
Doug Bryce 4.35 pm
They should be more concerned about Europhiles than Eurosceptics.
I would have thought that simply entertaining the concept of an illegal referendum makes one ipso facto an enemy of the people.
When it comes to thickos, the Tory MSP’s display an abundance of talent. Although they do claim to have an IQ of around 150, but this is the combined total,there is 31 of them so it’s not that impressive is it (some may have negative numbers ).
The go to parties, if you want pish, go Labour, thicko, go Tory.
Murdo Fraser could wank for England. And probably does.
Surely the issue is that the EU shouldn’t be claiming to uphold certain principles unless they’re able and willing to enforce them. More to do with honesty and credibility rather than actual intervention. A second issue is that a country like Spain with a problematic constitution shouldn’t have been waved through. Rather like Greece and its dodgy economy.
My own view is that Scotland would fit in best in an alliance of small nations (up to about 12 to 15 million population). I’ve thought of it as being an Atlantic / Baltic seaboard type thing, but who knows, maybe places like Catalonia, Switzerland and Slovenia could get involved as well? EFTA could form the bones of that sort of set-up.
Doug Bryce says:
re: EU / Catalonia
Their hands are tied. If they intervened then euro-sceptics would right complain about them interfering in sovereign nations affairs.
…..Rather than blame EU we should be blaming the member states who refuse to condone Spains actions
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the eu’s hands are tied, we all know this, the real issue is that the eu is currently applauding the violence by spanish police. had they said nothing, your point would have been valid, but they are not, they are backing spain to the hilt. if that isnt intervening i dont know what is
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heed, macart, i have always been pro EU, but my faith has been somewhat damaged of late.
i initially started the single market/norway/efta type option as our position in indyref2, not because i didnt like the EU but because i was convinced it was the best tactic for us to win. eg, a no in indyref2 means we are out of both.
i was criticised by many on here, but lately they have kept quiet. the norway option is now the only horse in this race, for which i am grateful, but the victory is bitter sweet.
we can now turn the bbc propaganda against them
no immediate eu membership because
1. andrew marr has told us spain will veto scotland eu membership application
2. andra neil says we will have to join a cue
3. the eu itself has said we need to apply via A49 as a new nation.
we can only promise in indyref2 that which is in our power to deliver (cue norway and iceland promising immediate access to efta the day after a yes vote)
a pound scots requires no agreement from any unionist westminster politician.
PictAtRandom
agreed
we have made many friends in catalunya (and enemies of unionists across europe) but i believe these only nation states, france, spain, italy uk, belgium are history, the eu’s future is in the smaller nation states, eg scotland, catalunya, basque, flemish, bavarian, breton etc.
we as an independent nation in efta (or in the eu) will also have the power to create our own military alliances, catalunya being an obvious one. such an alliance would become over night, the goal of all of the nationalist parties in the new emerging smaller eu nation states.
guy verhofstad desires eu military integration. he has backed the wrong horse,
CameronB Brodie
Murdo Fraser, a grand master in the ancient art of one hand clapping
@Schrodingers cat
I remember. Don’t worry about it. I think a lot of us have had our faith knocked a bit on this one.
Pretty much why I’m big on holding governments and the political class to account. Keeping them within boot to arse distance as it were.
When we vote for someone or something, they act in our name. They write the cheques, but we undersign them. Some of their decisions and actions however, shouldn’t have our name anywhere near them.
‘tory idiot of the week?’
All tories are absolute idiots all of the time!
Well worth reading.
link to weegingerdug.wordpress.com
Macart said:
‘They write the cheques, but we undersign them. Some of their decisions and actions however, shouldn’t have our name anywhere near them.’
Are you *gasp* suggesting people should take some responsibility for their actions or lack of action?
Careful, mate, the hysterical leftists on this forum will skin you alive.
O/T
And Tesco are now to drop the Saltire from Scottish goods and replace it with the Butchers apron flag. Aw well there are plenty more supermarkets I can shop in.
link to indyref2.scot
ga ponsonby says goodbye
galamcennalath Re Rev, I went onto the Rev’s twitter feed to see what it was about when it was current, basically nothing. Female journo prints pish, Rev calls her out for it, she doesn’t reply, Rev asks her if she is going to respond a couple of times. That was it. Imho she should be charged with wasting police time.
agree with ponsonby, the national needs to be metroed
no more yes leaflets a daily newspaper to give away
we could get lidls and aldis onboard, they could integrate their promos into it.
So now we know who will be first to try to feed us cheap imported food ….
link to archive.is
schrodingers cat 5.05
Nothing should be ‘attached’ to indyref2.
No Eus, eftas, baftas or anything else
Simple question on independence – yes or no
The Metro is 50% adverts and mostly syndicated content which is what pays its way. The National is slim because it is largely advert free. They would have to change their business model a fair bit to give it away free.
From the BBC story about WOS.
“Mr Campbell launched his pro-independence site in 2011, since when it has become the most prominent and widely-read blog on Scottish politics.”
LOL
I should comment on the LEZ but I didn’t earlier. While it’s good that finally Glasgow is trying to address it’s abysmal air quality I should caution that LEZs really aren’t all that effective at doing that.
The worst air quality monitor in Western Europe was the one halfway up Hope Street at a time that the junction was not only a taxi tank but also where buses accelerated to get up Hope Street and lets not forget that Central Station at the time had poor air quality from the trains idling in the station.
The truth is that London’s LEZ depended upon huge investment in modern buses and the banning of all trucks outwith very tightly controlled time zones. Yet pollution levels INSIDE public transport spending most of it’s day in London are really off the scale with regard to public health, regardless of the perceived improvements in emissions. The point here is that this has happened whilst government in Whitehall helps fund the new vehicles to go to London, although notably this has fallen away since Labour got Mr Khan in as mayor.
Glasgow has no such benefactor and nobody to finance new trains buses and taxis. That leaves a huge gap between expectation and reality.
The largest operator of buses in Glasgow is First and they have a track record of leaving markets that require too much investment for not enough return. We could be in danger of having large numbers of bus routes being terminated outwith the city centre with no viable alternative transport. I believe more thought over the proposal is needed or the SNP will be blamed for the chaos which could ensue.
mike cassidy
i hear you mike, but the question will be the same as last time with yes/no the only answer
but the idea we can simply refuse to mention or answer questions about what currency and the eu is for the birds
£scots an single market are the best option to win.
nothing more
Shame to see GA go, but a lot of people have neglected lives in the pursuit of Indy, perhaps it’s time for him to get back to it.
Reminds me though of a poster on Newsnet, Alex S, who also posts sometimes on the H. A bit of an abused poster the way these things go, but his dedication to a Constitution always stayed in my mind. I thought we’d need Indy to have one, but I’ve come to realise we should have one now, and should have had one even back then.
The EU with its dogmatic fascination with Spain’s Constitution has shown the way on this. Even though it’s about member state Constitutions, it would have problems ignoring the Constitution of one of its 350 regions of its 28 members.
It would have been, and would be, one way of having total sovereignty for Scotland – and Scots. Nothing could be done that would be against our Constitution, as long as it was confirmed through a referendum, and perhaps “ratified” by our parliament, even while “devolved”.
they would have to change their business model a fair bit to give it away free.
fine, then they should do it.
Glad to hear the good news Rev, although we all knew it was a waste of time. Hope the said female is done for wasting police time.
Idiot of the week, well we’re spoiled for choice aren’t we.
Re the EU. I feel much the same as Macart. I was undecided at the referendum, especially after the treatment that was meted out to Greece. I had to hold my nose and vote remain. Now I really do not care for what I’m seeing at the moment with regards to the Catalans. What happened to Article 7 I think it was, about using the military or police against your own citizens? Forgotten about or just shrugged the shoulders and turned away.
I would now have to think very very carefully about Scotland remaining in the EU. Not a happy bunny at all.
Wings Over Poppies!
Interesting title!
I will be in the audience on tomorrow nights QT from Kilmarnock, anyone got an idea of a good question they would like me to ask.
Jeane Freeman will be on it along with Kez and Owen Jones for Labour some Tory MEP and an English economist who writes for the Telegraph and Spectator.
So give me a good clever question.
Union Jackie just featured the rev on disreporting
Has anyone ever been to The Valle de los Caídos in Madrid?
Is there any other gigantic momument dedicated to Nazism in Europe or is it only in Spain?
Well done Old Pete
Ask Owen Jones about Kez telling Scottish voters to vote tory.
Ask Daniel Hannan how much money he’ll be making from brexit, if he can afford to lose his job
Ask the English economist the benefits of Scotland staying in the union
Tell Jeanne Freeman how great she was destroying the Brillo on daily politics
Old Pete
There needs to be a question on the 58 Brexit reports and the impact they will have on our understanding of what Brexit will actually mean for the UK and Scotland….might be a fair few asking that though.
With Jean there a question on what further welfare powers should be devolved to Scotland to make the process more joined up.
or following up on Darling’s comments “should elements of immigration particularly in relation to meeting skills gaps be devolved to Scotland?”
Indy2ref there are a group of people who meet reguarly working on a Constitution. Re Eu looks like I was same as a few folk, not happy about Greece but held my Nose, now if would need to be the only way we could get Indy before I would vote to join. EFTA with customs union is now my preference.
Re Eu Complaints , if you have a complaint about a member state you can submit it here
link to ec.europa.eu
@Old Pete
“Is it true the UK’s central bank, the Bank of England, makes a large profit and is of huge economic benefit to London, and is is true Scotland having our own currency and central bank would not only be costless, but of huge economic benefit to an Independent Scotland?”
Great news Rev – sorry you were put through the stress of this whole sorry accusation.
Brilliant advertising on the BBC tonight and WELCOME to all new WINGERS who find themselves joining in the next few days.
You’ll enjoy the discussion – but make sure you read the rules or you might get chased by Hammers!!! ( Not literally!)
Visca Catalunya
I do not really care what the FUTURE relationship with the EU is.
Without independence, we do not even have a damn choice.
Independence first, EVERYTHING else later.
Yesindyref2
Good article in The National today about this subject. Are you asking your question after having read the Article?
They posit that between 350 -1000 jobs could be created and it would be profitable very soon after creation.
Sounds feasible to me – but I’m not a financial expert.
meg merrilees
i looked at the ctalan election results from 2015, and the recent opinion polls in support of indy. rajoy can arrest mps, intimidate the population, but he cant stop the population voting for indy parties. when they win again on dec21st, rajoy has said he will reject the result. this throws the situation into a loop until the indy parties lose???
if i were catalan, i would be lobbying the eu to provide international observers to supervise the count (and to protect the voters)
“It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.” uncle joe
@Cag-does-thinking says: 1 November, 2017 at 2:31 pm:
“Anyone else find it funny that the BBC runs these stories about male harassment 24/7 while keeping very quiet about their own position and history on the issue.”
I do not find it funny – I find it as expected and totally BBCish.
What I do know is that the problem is far from being an exclusive male on female matter. I did a long spell as an official shop steward and a longer one as an unofficial steward in a detached section of mixed trades where no union had large enough numbers to have their own steward. Both these in an industrial environment.
I dealt with such harassment problems as experienced by both sexes. Not to mention that as a young apprentice I had a spell on electrical maintenance in a housing scheme for our workers. The things I experienced there I could write a best selling novel about.
I also spent several, usually six month terms, as a member of a six senior apprentice group doing installation work in large equipment stores and large machine shops that employed mainly females. The lads suffered much sexual harassment from older females that didn’t stop short of actual rape.
Sexual harassment, like domestic abuse, really is a two way matter but there is a definite slant of males being either more disbelieved, officially discouraged or too ashamed to report these matter.
Ask, for example such trades as tenters in the now almost defunct spinning and weaving mills and they will tell you tales of verbal and physical abuse by females that would make your hair stand on end.
Now that is not a dig at the females and I would say that in the past, when more females stayed home bringing up the kids, there was indeed more such abuse male on female but that the problem is far from being one sided and anyone who has been present in a venue where a hen party is taking place knows that is the truth. It is though, just a fact of life but one that must be discouraged – for obvious reasons.
RE: a free pro-indy daily.
When I bus to work, I usually use Stagecoach, for the free wifi. (Arbroath – Ninewells Hospital.)
Sometimes, I get an Explore Dundee bus. There used to be a stock of Metros on the ED buses but, in the past few months, I’ve seen no Metros. No explanation as to why they are no longer avilable.
Maybe an opening?
@Lenny Hartley
I saw one effort that was going into exactly how government should be set up, different levels, and that or another one specifying what our duties should be, like picking up litter for an hour a day, hugging a tree first thing in the morning, and about 100 clauses long filling the complete encyclopaedia scottica in 10 300 page long volumes.
For me it should be a couple of pages long, capable of being read by a five year old, and even committing to memory. And it should be about our rights, not those of politics or political parties or governments, nor about our “duties as citizens”.
Not much more really than the 2012 one. but made for us, not parliament:
“We the Sovereiegn People of Scotland have the absolute right to determine the form of Government best suited to our needs, and demand that in all its actions and deliberations our interests shall be paramount”
with just a few short paragraphs describing how that might be enforced (petition, referendum, constitutional court).
Less is more.
Will Michael Fallon resign his seat in HoC too? Doubt it!
@meg merrilees
Yup, two very interesting articles, one about and one by Craig Dalzell. Plus looking at ScottieDog and Derek Hendry (?) postings about MMT and currency, the Mitchell bilbo blog and Richard Murphy who has an influential voice at the moment.
Ref EU, I honestly don’t care at the moment as long as one way or another we are in the EEA. When the time is right for the decision, we’ll know more about the Spain / Catalonia situation, and how the EU did or didn’t handle it as a political entity.
Brian Doonthetoon says:
RE: a free pro-indy daily.
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i think you just made a very important point about a metro’ed independent
the metro needs to pay for a distribution network, imagine how many more areas it could reach with an army of yessers promoting and pushing it into every crevice of our society?
More Tory idiot resignations anyone?
link to bbc.co.uk
Fallon’s very quickly buried by C4 teatime news toryboy’s too. They look a bit flustered right enough, do C4 toryboy’s. Can the tory creep show get any bigger a UKOK catastrofuck? Lots of work for their beeb gimp network.
Also, I’ve always been pro-EEC, EU, etc. However, the way the EU has reacted to the Catalonia situation has dissapointed me.
As others have pointed out, “Human Rights” should have been the main issue. This obfuscation that we have seen over the past month has made it obvious that the EU’s prerogative is to preserve “the state”, rather than the rights of EU citizens in that state.
I always remember what happened when we joined the Common Market. For years, our family butter had been “Golden Emblem New Zealand Butter”. We joined the CC and Golden Emblem (along with other Commonwealth produce) dissapeared from the supermarket shelves. Why?
Maybe others are right; EFTA should be the way forward after we’re independent, rather than the EU, but that decision should be AFTER we’re independent – not a plank of the next independence campaign.
@ Old Pete
Sample Q’s
The WM Govt reports about the economic impact of Brexit on the different areas within the UK are being deliberately withheld from the public and from their elected representatives – given the rumour that Scotland is likely to be one of the areas to suffer the most, how important is it for British Nationalism – whether Socialist or Tory – that the Scottish voter is deliberately kept ignorant of the facts?
Is British Nationalism really just English Nationalism dressed up in a union jack, and can the panel agree that the complete contempt shown to the Scottish Electorate – 62% of whom voted to remain – makes the above question much more pertinent.
England’s economy is in more debt now than at the end of WW2. Scotland’s economy is in the black and exports more than it imports. Does the panel agree that with Scotland’s oil revenues going to the UK, and with Scotland’s renewable energy potential being 4 times larger than its oil industry – the UK cannot afford to lose Scotland.
Westminster is running the Scottish Oil industry at a 23 million loss this last year, a year when even Germany managed to make a 2 million profit out of oil – does the panel agree that the gross mismanagement of this resource is due to an embarrassment factor of English electorate knowing this resource is being stolen and their country profiting, but not wanting to look the details in the face.
Many months after the Grenfell disaster and the Tory Council in charge and the Tory Government in power cannot even count the number of bodies correctly. Does the panel agree that the decision to label the victims of that fire, who jumped from that blazing building as ‘suicide’ is utterly reprehensible and utterly false.
“dissapeared”?
SHAZBOT!
Jings! How the mighty have ‘Fallon’
Sir Michael Fallon resigns over behaviour claims
the metro needs to pay for a distribution network, imagine how many more areas it could reach with an army of yessers promoting and pushing it into every crevice of our society?
Can we not just crowd fund buying it and leave piles on buses etc. Metro do it here in Glasgow, and its extremely tory, very anti SNP, very anti Catalonia etc. Its probably a Daily Heil rag, it feels like one.
Last stacked up pile of Metro headline I saw, Monday morn, on the bus, “Huge Crowds of Catalonians Fly Flag of Spain” big close up of Spanish flag wavers, could be anywhere.
If you can’t sell your rancid Britnat tory propaganda, pay bus companies to get their drivers to be your paperboys and girls.
@Alex Clark says: 1 November, 2017 at 2:33 pm:
“Stick the boot in EU, why don’t you?”
As I’ve already pointed out, Alex, the actual EU parliament seems to not yet have had any debate on the Spain/Catalonia situation. That being so the EU cannot have as yet made any decision or official comment on the matter.
That means all such statements to date are personal opinions by the person making the statement. When the EU Parliament does have a debate we may see a very different official announcement.
Bear in mind that to have an EU debate on anything requires at least an official motion to be proposed and seconded. It then has to find a slot in an overcrowded agenda to have the debate and there may be either opposing motions proposed or amendments to either motion made before there will be a debate and vote.
Now guess who is the current president and the country who hold the present presidency of the EU parliament?
Here is cut & paste that exposes a little realised fact:-
(The bold emphasis in the above is mine).
Does that explain what I’m attempting to get across?
Some food for thought, any other ideas for questions.
Seems odd for BBC having a panel to the left with Jeane Freeman and Owen Jones ? Can’t count Kez the red Tory of course. Don’t know the MEP anybody know anything about him ?
How many frigates for the Clyde now?
@BDTT
I wonder if there’s any tie-up between Sidlaw Executive Travel (Bob Costello) and Xplore Dundee buses?
The Metro belongs to the Daily Mail group so is most certainly not our friend.
The physical printing of newspapers is relatively cheap – a lot cheaper than printing political pamphlets and the Metro is funded by advertising revenues.
@geeo 7:04pm
Agreed.
OT. Didn’t like to say too soon after Nana’s link on the last thread [Courier?] but it’s great news about the dropping of false accusations, Rev.
Without doubt WOS is crucial to Scotland regaining its independence.
Hannah is Peruvian born but son of the English upper class. He was a rabid brexiteer and is a smarmy shit any time I’ve had the misfortune to see him on a political programme
@Robert Peffers
Regards the President of European Parliament, Antonio Tajani sticking his nose in. I do believe that what he said was his personal opinion.
My point was that the official line of the EP and the EC is that this is an internal matter for Spain. So these gobshites should STFU rather than do more damage than they already have done in a very fragile situation.
They should have kept their mouths shut while working behind the scenes to first of all prevent any further violence and just as importantly secure a solution for Catalonia and Spain via the ballot box that would be seen as free and fair.
By their words so far. Democracy in the EU? Bah humbug!
A free and fair vote last time I looked did not include police batons and the removal of ballot boxes along with the closing of polling stations.
Spain were and are in the wrong. let the Catalonians vote and if the high head yins of the EU feel the need to pontificate on this matter then that is what they should have been saying.
Not pretending it’s it’s “an internal matter for Spain” then speaking out in defence of Spain.
Antonio Tajani actually said today “that the EU should not be concerned about Carles Puigdemont’s fate.”
Well the EU should be concerned and they fail us all by not being.
Dave McEwan Hill
the thread is about ga ponsonby’s last ever blog where he says that the national newspaper should be “metroed”
this means a free newspaper distributed like the metro, supported by advertising.
perhaps i should have said, imagine the national, run like the metro (with its existing distribution costs) but with an army of yessers ensuring a far deeper reach into society than the metro has
ps, i live in deepest darkest fife, we are too poor and cant even afford free newspapers. i have never even see a metro 🙂
One by one the inevitability of retribution will overtake these monstrous Tories. Cannot be soon enough.
Yesindyref2 disagree less is more re constitution, its needs to spell out the limits of parliament, in great detail otherwise they will find ways to circumvent it to the detriment of us.
We had one of the sharpist legal minds on the planet Neil McCormick write one a decade or so ago, any constitution should use his as a base, . I know nothings of constitutions but the sovereignty of the people should be the first sentence!/Paragraph
@Albaman says: 1 November, 2017 at 2:49 pm:
“Glad an happy see that the police down your way, have seen sense and dropped all charges against you.”
Actually, Albaman, if you had followed Rev Stu’s teachings you would have understood that the, Police Down his way”, were not the ones who decided to arrest an innocent man.
The complainant, apparently protected by law from having her name made public, made her complaint to The Metropolitan Police in the Metropolis, (or as we say in Scotland, The metropolis polis).
These metro polis, in turn, requested that the Polis, doon his wey, arrest Stu, on suspicion only, of a suspected offence.
So the persons guilty of arresting an innocent person were the complainant woman and the Metropolis Polis.
Good to see the news that Rev Stu is innocent – as we never doubted he would be.
However, any publicity for Wings is good publicity and people who come from idle curiosity may stay to further our cause.
Dr Jim
The only time I’ve experienced air quality as poor as central London’s used to be, was when I was cleaning buses as a second job. This was all inside the bus depot and when you blew your nose the bogies were black due to the emissions.
There is no reason you should have been aware of the extensive efforts already made to improve air quality in central London, but I’d have thought it only sensible that Annie Wells MSP, should have check out the score was before bumming her gums and trying to make political capital out of the historical legacy of dysfunctional local governmental under BLiS____d.
link to london.gov.uk
/london_stalling_-_reducing_traffic_congestion_in_london.pdf
link to autoexpress.co.uk
Fallon has resigned, more will follow no doubt. but it changes nothing. these people wont resign their seats, just disappear from the limelight for a few months. they will still turn up to vote. no change in the electoral arithmatic
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Nick Robinson?Verified account @bbcnickrobinson 53m53 minutes ago
Commons just voted to publish Brexit papers ministers said they couldn’t publish. Story of this parliament = government’s got no majority
the government is presently considering its response
i might just say no, so dont get hopes up.
if these papers are released, it is a big stick we can bash the unionist with
Rev, delighted to hear your news – hope the complainant gets their collar felt for wasting police time.
Bye ,bye Sir Michael Fallon – you have fallen from grace and I’m pretty sure it doesn’t just relate to a journalistic knee!
Donate money to the fund but don’t wear the poppy.
link to thenational.scot
ot 1970’s school trip to see how air pollution is measured. Enter basement area of Glasgow Central Hotel. Flashing lights tape decks and from looking out of wee window seeing folks feet we were told that this location picked up the worst road traffic pollution in Glasgow due to its location. High buildings around traffic busy and idling engines, prevailing wind from SW. As this was the worst place to measure all other areas were better!
No doubt labour politicians like Kelly and Foulkes would sort it out
@Kat Hamilton says: 1 November, 2017 at 3:14 pm:
” …well mr macintosh?”
What’s the point of asking, Ken Macintosh, Kat?
Ken is without doubt the most biased official ever to have sat as Presiding Officer.
Ken is so biased he walks with his pockets on one side, (The right side), filled up with pound coins to correct the tendency to walk towards the left.
Glad to hear Stu cleared of spurious allegations.
Also glad to hear of Fallon’s resignation in admitting to slippin’the haun as they say.
What is it about these Scotch defence ministers?
Fallon,Fox,Murphy, Reid.
They’re a bit unpalatable to say the least.
cant resist
link to youtube.com
@Proud Cybernat says: 1 November, 2017 at 3:38 pm
“Every lickspittle…”
Just to let you know that your links to IGMAR are being reported as insecure links.
They do not, though, seem to contain any actual harmful content. Apparently they have the wrong certificate.
More planet toryboy news. Great name that Minette Batters. Is she a tory gel, did she vote Leave? probably.
link to edp24.co.uk
Hi yesindyref2 says at 8:01 pm.
“@BDTT
I wonder if there’s any tie-up between Sidlaw Executive Travel (Bob Costello) and Xplore Dundee buses?”
I don’t think so – I’d be very surprised. I’ve known Bob since he was a teenager. We had a hiatus from the 70s until 2014 but I don’t doubt his pro-indy motive. No doubt he’s reading this and may interject to put you straight.
His business and Dundee Explore are competitors.
Fallon gone and possibly more to follow.
Fallon though, isn’t the story. The possible release of the Brexit impact reports coupled with these scandals and the ever more precarious DUP/NI situation will result in the real story.
Motion of no confidence? Collapse of government? After the past couple of years especially, you’d be mental to rule anything out right now.
Wonder if the Rev is up for another snap election? 😀
Anyroads… Now, more than ever, is a time for calm and patience. I suspect the YES movement is about to be handed a gift. Let’s use it properly and wisely when the opportunity arises.
Minette Batters, together with all kinds of Englishness, or Dimbleby’s idea of a British balance of debaters. Minette Batters, Billy Bragg, Lisa Nandy MP, Jacob Rees-Mogg MP. Who says England is not a foreign country, Scotland?
link to bbc.co.uk
Motion of no confidence? Collapse of government? After the past couple of years especially, you’d be mental to rule anything out right now.
Macart,
But England will be furious at the tories, if they go to the polls again. It would be suicide. So if the tories really have had enough now, Brexit’s too big a catastrofuck for the tory party to deal with, they may well do it.
Should be interesting in Scotland though. Colonel Ruth’s in hiding but she’s not exactly built on her 13 tory idiot MP crew, from last time, Scottish poll wise.
Particularly delighted about the Fallon news, he made my skin crawl. A more pompous, condescending, sneery Britnat would be hard to locate.
Must be some real filth being uncovered, because it’s not about that dead squirrel that was launched about touching Harpie Brewer’s knee.
As he has tied it to the Armed Forces, I wonder if it refers to those sailors he sacked?
Anyway, he should be vacating as MP, it’s disgusting they hang on.
Toryboy smarm. His henchwoman’s good though. Bet no one feels her up in the cab back to Glesga airport.
link to youtube.com
@Robert Peffers,
Actually Robert I was aware that the complaint emanated from the London area, and that it would be the “Met” in all probability who would become involved, I do follow the Rev’s postings, so it was, at the time, easy to assume the ,who,why, and where.
My expression “down you way”, refers to any area south of the river Tweed !.
Hope Mossmorran hasn’t kept you awake at nights!!.
Just like Checkatrade.com. Checkapolitician.com / checkanewscaster.com / checkareporter.com. Gosh, that’s a lot of work for some folks. Stu, why don’t you expand your operation and really put the wind up the establishment?
You do great work and I’m glad to hear that the crap charges are dropped.
Congrats Rev on the “acquittal”. Can’t have been easy.
Iron man says 1 November, 2017 at 5:45 pm
At the last referendum, as well as the down right lies, there was FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt). Part of this involved sound-bites of mis-truths and assertions that sounded true but wouldn’t bear under simple scrutiny or would reveal rather nasty motivations. One of these was that Scottish goods wouldn’t be bought by the rUK of the UK in the event of independence.
It is obvious that there is an ongoing movement of removing all things Scottish in the commercial sector. That that all these Scottish goods are branded British now and that people in the rest of the UK are buying them, what will stop them from buying them in the result of independence?
It is a simple sound-bite that can gain momentum in the Scottish public consciousness but it will eventually be challenged and given scrutiny. Once it does, it will reveal a nasty bitterness in part of the British psyche that will not particularly go down well with the Scottish public. It will be hard for those against indy to defend it.
Also to mention, another bit of FUD was about RBS, claimed by the No campaign to be a Scottish company that would drag down an independent Scotland. As part of their corporate strategy, RBS will disappear south of the border and will only operate in Scotland. Again, it will be hard for those against Indy to use that again and the slightest scrutiny will show that RBS is a financial group with a number of companies including the Royal Bank of Scotland and Natwest banks, the biggest one being NatWest which solely operates in England and Wales.
@mike d says: 1 November, 2017 at 4:26 pm:
“Handandshrimp. Inclined to agree with you there. That lot (EU) have never done us any favours.”
That’s claptrap, Mike d, there isn’t a corner of Scotland that has not benefitted from the EU and that would have benefitted even more if Westminster did not hold the purse strings of the cash the EU pours in supposedly for Scotland’s use but that Westminster misappropriates and uses elsewhere.
You are confusing what certain EU officials and the EC with what the EU actually is and says.
From former mining areas that get EU cash for clearing up the environment to transport links to green energy and much more the EU puts more money back into Scotland than it takes out.
What people like Barroso have said in the past was not what the EU said – it was his own opinions and furthermore he wasn’t even the EU – he was the EC.
These present persons stating pro-Spanish views can only be giving their own opinions for, far as I’m aware, there has been no actual European Parliament debate, decision or vote on anything to do with the Catalan situation.
Please read my earlier post about the, “EU Presidencies”.
There is no actual, “President of the EU”, as so often inferred by the media. There are only Presidents of various EU departments. I have listed some already.
Bear in mind that no EU decisions can be made by these officials and that every member state has a veto over every EU matter. It only thus takes one veto to kill anything stone dead.
Remember also that the EU must rely upon its reputation to survive. If it is not seen as being fair and above board then the member state that is wronged could veto everything the EU attempts to do and the EU will be dead in the water and will split apart and be gone.
It may be slow to act but it really must reach a consensus and I very much doubt it has yet done so over the Catalans right, under EU law, of self determination.
If they kill off Catalonian self determination they sign the EU death certificate. If one EU citizen is wronged by the EU every one of us is wronged and these officials know it.
@Heed
Half joke, half earnest. Honestly? It’d be a brave soul to predict what happens next. UK gov is in almost total meltdown. They’re beset by scandal, broken deals, international ridicule and a fractured society. All of this before we get to the serious issues of Brexit, the failure of austerity ideology and a burgeoning constitutional crisis.
I never thought I’d see a UK gov so broken, so panicked, until after Scotland chose its own path. To see it fall apart before our very eyes on a day by day basis is almost surreal.
Fallon’s resignation
Julia Hartley-Brewer has tweeted that she doesn’t think it was her “knee episode” that prompted the resignation. Maybe more to come out (or hide)
They are a few posting under the misconception that the Rev was charged with anything. Well he wasn’t there were no charges, he was questioned based on allegations from an unnamed person.
These allegations have now been found to be totally false and he has been told that there will be no further action.
However I’m sure they got what they really wanted and that was his computer hard drive which no doubt was given a good going over for contacts, correspondence and a good long hard look into his personal life including websites he visits etc.
They will absolutely snatch your computer in the search for evidence when the allegation is related to an online offence such as his was. Why though did they wait more than 9 months after the complaint was made if I am right in my belief of who the complainant was?
So what’s the outcome after having your bottom drawer searched and them looking under your bed for any dirty mags?
Squeaky clean would appear to be the answer unlike most of the Tories in government and our councils. Hope you got your computer back Rev.
I never thought I’d see a UK gov so broken
agreed, camerons move to a 66% majority for a vote of no confidence is the only thing holding westminster together at the moment
the labour commitment to brexit and voting for the a50 bill is the dumbest thing ever and is the other reason this brexit process will continue regardless of how bad things get
options and means to stop brexit are thin on the ground
Macart says:
1 November, 2017 at 9:14 pm
@Heed
They must be under massive pressure from UK business though, to not Leave. If they do fold, Brexit ref2 and another GE would be likely, maybe. Its not like a PM Corbyn is going to be any better at Brexiting than the actual tories.
How much did Nissan get to stay in Sunderland, how many more Nissan’s are wanting paid to stay? This whole sex harassment issue reeks of tory bullshit too.
Orange Hitler’s imploding, Teresa’s on the verge of collapse, imagine the UK media hysteria, if this was all on the left.
Fallon on his sword has he; oh ffffrigates…
@Graeme says: 1 November, 2017 at 4:27 pm:
“I see GA Ponsonby has wrote his last article (or so he says) for personal reasons, but I can’t help feeling it’s as much disillusionment with the YES movement as anything else
maybe it’s just me.
I may be wrong but I read his comment as saying it was his last article on that particular website. I very much doubt he will not post articles or comments elsewhere. I do very much hope I an right, though.
The sin of hybris -outrageous arrogance. The abuse of power, the imposition of your will at all costs preceded by moral blindness – you can do anything you want to and there will be no consequences.
That and a belief that your citizens are intellectually limited, incapable of researching facts or sharing knowledge and are globally isolated marks the beginning of the end of Empire 2. It didn’t last long as Empires go – lacking advocates of civic patriotism, courage, financial and political common sense.
@Bill McLean says: 1 November, 2017 at 4:28 pm:
“Whatever religion Murdo Fraser claims to follow, he does it little credit!”
I believe there is little doubt that Fraser follows, as best be believes, Christianity. Did you perhaps mean, Bill, whatever sect of Christianity he follows?
Again there is no doubt that he does indeed follow, (cough!), follow a protestant sect of Christianity.
However you are correct he does neither Christianity nor any sect of Christianity any credit – but what sectarian has ever done so?
@Phronesis
Well said, you’ve just described the leaders of the “free west” in a couple of paragraphs.
He didnae Fall on his own sword Tories dont do that Tick Tock
Nissan got £2Billion to start manufacture electric cars. More pledged later? A special Brexit deal?
Great news. No charges for Stu. Knew that would be the outcome. Too many people are put in cells on malicious charges that can never come to court. It should be stopped. A total waste of public money. .
Another one hits the dust. Fallon. Another one hits the dust. More to come? What a shambles. A complete incompetent mess. A disgrace.
It’s all about Westminster’s mismanagement of Scotland’s affairs.
Malicious or otherwise, they’ve ground us into the dirt long enough.
With our world class universities at our disposal throughout our oil boom, we’d have yeilded patents and driven tech and tesearch, like the Norwegians. Who incidentally are now bankrolling the Saudis.
@Doug Bryce says: 1 November, 2017 at 4:35 pm:
“We should also be looking to the UN – they have guidelines on self determination and are the appropriate organisation to apply pressure.”
The UN has already issued a condemnation of Spain’s violent actions but several UN member states including both the USA and the UK have supported Spain. Which means that the UN has already lost some of its credibility as has the EU but they both have not actually debated not voted upon the Catalan matter as an organisation.
The USA, in particular are very obviously hypocrites in that they not only declared themselves as independent from the United Kingdom but did so by a bloody war.
Derek Bateman?
@DerekBateman2
Follow Follow @DerekBateman2
Colonel Ruth Davidson the obvious successor as Defence Secretary…
Robert peffers.9.14pm.i meant they never done us any favours pre 2014 indy ref.they took westminsters side. And after events in Catalonia,I believe they would still say it was a westminster issue.
Lol, Fallon resigns for putting his hand on a knee ten years ago, aye right, what’s he really hiding.
What I would gently like to remind everyone re the EU is that to be a full member is to have worldwide influence. To not be a member is to abdicate that possibility. The whole point of independence is surely to amplify power, not diminish it.
Just imagine, for example, that we had achieved independence in 2014 and were full EU members now, as was the undisputed intention at the time. Our government would now have been speaking up for Catalonia, possibly even be the first to recognise them, and be able to offer their representatives political asylum if necessary.
Just how great would that not have been? And even might be in the near future if we play our cards right, since it may be over to us again to lead the way now.
Real power exercised with principle, to shame the equivocators.
Without that membership, we can just sit on the sidelines wringing our collective hands and moaning about how unfair life can be.
Oh, and BTW, please don’t confuse the EU with the Eurozone. The two overlap but are not the same thing. The Greek situation is complex, not reducible to simple slogans, and those who presume to speak for them most also seem to conveniently forget that the Greeks intend to remain both in the EU and in the eurozone. The advantages seem obvious enough to them, at least.
WTF, The BBC handling Fallon with kid gloves and treating him like a victim. Can you imagine if this was an SNP minister.
Alex Clark,
“O/T
President of European Parliament Antonio Tajani, speaking of Puigdemont:
“Tajani noted that Carles Puigdemont came to Brussels as a European citizen to enjoy all freedoms. Tajani added that Puigdemont had not escaped the dictatorship such as North Korea or Venezuela. On the contrary, Spain is an example of true democracy. The ousted leader Catalonia violated both the laws of Catalonia, and the constitution of the EU member state.
At the same time, the head of the EP considers that the EU should not be concerned about Carles Puigdemont’s fate.””
Rock (1st November – “Playing by Madrid Rules”):
“The EU and powerful leaders of EU members have made it perfectly clear that the referendum was illegal and that Catalonia is not welcome in the EU.”
Dave McEwan Hill:
“Provide some evidence for this statement.
The EU has pointed out that the Spanish Government judges the referendum illegal and the EU has made no statement that Catalonia is not welcome in the EU. The notion that the EU would prevent an independent Catalonia being a member is absurd.”
Still looking for evidence, Dave McEwan Hill?
Tory MP complains because of higher employment in Scotland. Less folk are joining the Army. Unemployment was always higher in Scotland so more people joined the Army fir a ‘career’. 80% of the services were from Scotland.
The Tories ruined the Oil & Gas sector. Illegally high taxes. 40% tax since Jan 2016. Stppped more explorations and production since 2010. Osbourne increased taxes 11% (£2Billlion) up to 80% When the price fell 75%. It was taxed at 62%. Losing 120,000 jobs and £Billions. £28Billion++. More Gas has to be imported. From Norway and fracked Gas from the US.
Fracked Gas in the rest of the UK is tax free. They pay no tax at all. No Corporatiin tax? etc. The Tories banned onshore wind turbines in England. They are wasting £Billions on nuclear. Hinkley Point a total waste of public money. With far better, safer, cheaper alternatives. They are flying nuclear waste around the world. Appalling.
It really is just time now to remind ourselves just exactly what a fair and free vote under Spanish law meant just exactly 1 month ago in Catalonia.
I don’t apologise for posting this and I would have expected the EU to do more to condemn it. It shames them that they haven’t.
This is FASCISM in action. Watch, remember and never forget. The EU needs to rid ourselves of this type, not support them. I am so angry at the ignorance and the reporting of this total disgrace.
link to youtube.com
Fallon resigns, who’s next Damian Green . Popeye to be the next defence secretary, distraction resignations there’s more to follow . Lisa Nandy wrote to Teresa 2 years ago about sexual harassmen /bullying , what did she do nothing, she’ll now consult her notes from that time & find another carpet to sweep things under .
Sir Michael ‘Frigate Factory on the Clyde’ Fallon:
link to archive.is
“In 2013, our Defence Secretary Michael Fallon – who witnesses say was visibly drunk – had to be forcibly separated from an attractive woman by a government minder at a posh party.”
“The woman turned out to be a Russian spy – who had been paid to work as a honey-trap by a Russian energy company with close ties to Putin.”
I though the BritNat Media loved a bit of ‘close ties to Putin’ stuff.
I mean RadioShortbreid canna usually get enough of it when it’s aboot Trump.
@schrodingers cat says: 1 November, 2017 at 5:05 pm:
” … the eu’s hands are tied, we all know this, the real issue is that the eu is currently applauding the violence by spanish police.”
How many times must the point be made before it sinks in?
The EU has said nothing as yet as the EU. They cannot issue a statement as the EU parliament until after there has been an official EU parliament debate and an official EU parliament vote.
What we have is certain official who must obviously be stating either their own, or their own member state’s opinions. Remember that every member state in the EU, regardless of size has a veto over all EU parliamentary decisions.
Far as I know the EU parliament has not held a debate and thus made no decision about the Spain/Catalonian situation.
Certain EU officials may yet find themselves in some rather hot water up over their heads. Furthermore, if the EU fails to protect its Catalan citizens the EU, already under threat from
BrUKexit, is in grave danger of losing its sole raison dêtre and will find itself of no further relevance within Europe.Lucky, then, there is a successful ready alternative on the side-lines that comply with all EU laws and regulations including those of human rights and self determination.
Not to mention the far bigger Council of Europe who also have spoken out against Spanish violence in Catalonia.
She should be asked to name the gropers employed at BBC Scotland
Sexual Harassment and the BBC
Smith spoke of her distaste at the level of sexist culture she had witnessed almost daily during her previous employment at the BBC.
Her claim that female staff were regularly pressured into having sex with senior journalists was disappointing since she had done nothing to stop it.
link to thesun.co.uk
Brian Doonthetoon,
“Also, I’ve always been pro-EEC, EU, etc. However, the way the EU has reacted to the Catalonia situation has dissapointed me.”
Unlike clueless pompous armchair pundits like yourself, “bots” can correctly predict events with foresight:
Rock (19th September – “The warning notice”):
“The difference is spineless “sovereign” Scots bottled it despite getting a free vote whereas the Catalonians are showing real spine, although they will be crushed by the Spanish state while the EU does little more than make a few noises.”
Brian Doonthetoon (30th October – Playing by Madrid Rules):
“So, I’ll type it again – you’re a bot that needs more input into your database.”
You never answered the questions:
Did the “sovereign” people of Scotland vote for the Treaty of Union?
Or was it forced upon them because they were not “sovereign”?
Some really good articles in the mainstream press over the last week.
Very impressive. Is the tide turning ?
1) President Donald Trump’s top economist has an unusual idea for dealing with the problem of long-term unemployment: Just have the government hire people.
That’s a New Deal-style idea more closely associated with highly progressive Democrats. But Kevin Hassett, the conservative chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, believes some Americans are so disconnected from the workforce that the best idea to get them working again could be a federal jobs program that would ultimately lead to private-sector employment.
Trumps top economist suggests a job guarentee.
link to politico.com
2) You also have Frances Cappola weighing in with
How Bank Lending Really Creates Money, And Why The Magic Money Tree Is Not Cost Free
link to forbes.com
A piece on state and credit forms of money, and on what ultimately backs them both.
3) Frances follows up with another piece
Bank Capital And Liquidity: Sorting Out The Muddle
link to forbes.com
4) Warren’s video from last year is also very good on youtube.
Loans Create Deposits: Inside vs Outside Money or commercial bank money creation v’s government money creation.
This is what the National newspaper should be concentrating on.
Dave McEwan Hill,
“The Metro belongs to the Daily Mail group so is most certainly not our friend.”
The National belongs to the Quest group and is the younger sister of the venomously anti-independence The Herald so is most certainly not our friend.
A reminder of what ordinary people in Catalonia had to face when wanting to cast a vote under Spanish control.
Watch and let’s make sure it could never happen here.
link to youtube.com
@mike cassidy says: 1 November, 2017 at 6:12 pm:
“Nothing should be ‘attached’ to indyref2.
No Eus, eftas, baftas or anything else
Simple question on independence – yes or no.”
Well said, that man, I’ll second that.
Hammer of the Scots Severin Carrell has deigned to give some Graun Scotland section time to this news, because ofcourse stinky olde Graun’s Scotland section is soooo over loaded and stuffed full of news, about Scotland. He’s such a dick, sorry not controversial dick:D
“Stuart Campbell, a controversial pro-independence blogger who writes as Wings Over Scotland, has been cleared of online harassment of a woman in London.
He was arrested by Avon and Somerset police at his home in Bath in August on suspicion of harassment and malicious communications after the complaint was made to police in south London.
Campbell, 49, originally from Stirling, was released on bail and bailed again last month. The Metropolitan police said on Wednesday they had investigated the allegations and were taking no further action.”
heedtracker,
“Hammer of the Scots Severin Carrell has deigned to give some Graun Scotland section time to this news,”
(Almost Ex-)Guardian reader with a Slovene (ex-)girlfriend, you will have some withdrawal symptons as when you gave up smoking, but be brave like a Catalonian, don’t give up easily.
Don’t patronise the lying, war mongering, British Nationalist rag which blocked you despite centuries of loyalty.
I see Rock has arrived. Time to go do something else.
That’ll please him as that is his aim but thing is I’ve neglected things I really should be doing. As someone, I cannot remember who, once, (at lest), said, I’ll be back – and God help us, he was.
Sir Michael Fallon has resigned as Defence Minister – how the mighty have fallen!
Robert Peffers,
“I see Rock has arrived. Time to go do something else.”
Why don’t you have your own site and blog?
Why haven’t you ever written a book on the history of the union?
I’ve written to Tesco to inform them that my wife and I spend over £200 a week in their stores (including car fuel). If they remove the Saltire from their produce we will do our shopping elsewhere. Their reply, if there is one, should be interesting.
link to independent.co.uk
Teresa’s going to between ah rock and a hard place GE coming up
Owen Jones ??Verified account @OwenJones84 3h3 hours ago
Right, you lot, I’m on @bbcquestiontime this week trying to fly the flag for socialism, wish me luck! #bbcqt
Good luck Owen!
Also poor little Owen, will only have three other very hard core yoons on his UKOK/SNP bad side too, against one SNP.
Could be a UKOK beeb gimp hoot n half though, Dugdale, a tory Brexiteer roaster/Ligger Neil fav boy, some non entity from the Economist, because its such a liberal and progressive mag and Owen Jones, who lies about his Scotland region as easy any other UKOK hack out there.
I very much hope that the Rev. Stuart Campbell will name his accuser in his next article.
I suspect it was someone from within Scottish Labour but I may be completely wrong.
The Rev’s reputation being stained by the BBC and others (no smoke without etc) they can chunter about him being arrested and play down that there was never any case.
link to thenational.scot
What about a fundraiser for chasing a case of wrongful arrest?
Was Police time wasted by the 30 year old anon?
@ Robert Peffers I ken whit you mean am aff tae Grate inging’s fur the bolognazi sauce lol.
What’s the money on beeb gimps having on the journalist and owner of the WoS blog, on their BBC QT comedy hour? too controversial for the beeb gimp network clearly.
But you never know.
Yes you do:D
Rock at 10.53
I thought it was a journalist with the Daily Express.
Robert Peffers,
“@mike cassidy says: 1 November, 2017 at 6:12 pm:
“Nothing should be ‘attached’ to indyref2.
No Eus, eftas, baftas or anything else
Simple question on independence – yes or no.”
Well said, that man, I’ll second that.”
Would you have seconded it if I had said it?
Rock (24th July 2015 – “The unpayable ransom”):
“Next time there should be no white paper from the Scottish Government.
Just immediate independence following a Yes vote, followed by a general election within three months where the different parties set out their policies and proposals on how to negotiate the terms with Westminster.
The “sovereign” people of Scotland can then decide which policies they want to vote for.”
Dave McEwan Hill,
“Rock at 10.53
I thought it was a journalist with the Daily Express.”
You might be mixing this up with Craig Murray’s accuser.
But as I wrote, I could be completely wrong.
John H. says:
1 November, 2017 at 10:50 pm
I’ve written to Tesco to inform them that my wife and I spend over £200 a week in their stores (including car fuel). If they remove the Saltire from their produce we will do our shopping elsewhere. Their reply, if there is one, should be interesting.”
You should. I have got quite fat scoffing Morrisons filled doughnuts, caramel, oh baby.
Anyway Morrisons used to sell them in a big union jack box, of five, and I used to moan at the extremely attractive Morrison’s customer services lady, who thought it was funny, she’s not British, and it is.
Anyway, Morrisons no longer sell their boxes of five doughnuts in giant union jack boxes. There is still an ickle wickle union jack on the side of the box though.
But I’m on it. Great excuse to chat up very attractive customer services lady, although the double chin probably wont cut it:D
Ruth Davidson wins Parliamentarian of the Year award. Her tweet:
“The house clearing that is about to happen needs to happen”… so Ruth Davidson are you going to start with your own house and clear out the rogue Tory councillors in Stirling and elsewhere and the dodgy MSP’s???
…or are you a hypocrite???
You’d think no one wanted you to see this as the posts come thick and fast so I’m posting the same link again. Ignore if you have already watched and apologies if you feel I’m being over sensitive.
We must never forget what the idea of Spanish democracy looks like and why we should support Catalonia in pursuit of their version.
link to youtube.com
Goods have to be labelled where they come from. The source. EU regulations. Sometimes companies can flaunt the rules. Use subsidiaries etc. If they get caught they can get prosecuted fined etc. Recent chicken factory scandal. Health and safety inspectors are supposed to check. UK Gov doesn’t help. Many of these conglomerates donate to unionist political parties. To bend the rules. The cost of bailing out ‘mad cow’ etc. £Billions.
@ Cadogan Enright {That’s all we’ll be saying on the subject at this time }. If Im not mistaken the Rev isn’t finished in pursuing this , either through the Police or the person themselves , nor should he , his reputation not to mention his livelihood & the popularity of this WoS site .
Whatever the Rev’s intentions are he knows we’re 100% behind him .
link to facebook.com
A very appropriate answer , Well mr Brewster answer the bloody question DID YOU ever sexualy harass anybody .
Bribery and coercion of MPs to pass legislation is about as corrupt as you can get.
Why aren’t the people of England up in arms?
And Corbyn’s known about all these party-whip corruptions for years.
He’s shuffled through the lobbies, taken his salary and filled his own expenses regardless. Westminster though and through, by the few for the few.
Makes you wonder about Labour motivation, Hillary Benn, so emotionally pro-trident etc.. Just saying..
RP
the eu parlaiment hasnt voted on the catalan issue…..
Manfred Weber leader of eu peoples party alliance 216 meps
“In a speech to the parliament, he said: “A Catalonian government without a majority of votes in the last election is using all means for this escalation. “We cannot accept such behaviour. Europe is built on the rule of law. Spain is built on the rule of law.”
Gianni Pittella leader of demsocs 196 meps
“Puigdemont clearly hasn’t realized the major illegality and danger he’s brought to Catalonia and Spain.”
Syed Kamall leader of eu tory alliance 74 meps (hint, he is from london)
supports a catalan indyref???
guy verhofstadt leader of eu libdems
we know exactly what he thinks
these people represent the 4 largest fractions in the eu parlaiment
to say they are only expressing a personal opinion and not the eu parlaiment is like saying that theresa, corbyn and cable are also expressing personal opinions and that the uk parliament hasnt expressed a view.
can we also say that nicola is only expressing a personal view and that the scottish parliament has no opinion??
this is not how everyone perceives the situation, they see scotland supporting the catalans and westminster and the eu opposing them. I could be wrong but none of these parlaiments have had a vote on the issue.
the eu has done great good for scotland. but i am disappointed by its response to cataunya, pretending that the eu has said nothing doesnt wash
I as many others on this site are delighted to see the pathetic charges against Stuart being dropped ,I have been sent to Coventry in my house for loosing the plot on current affairs on our so called news outlets.
Without exception news outlets have spent the last three days on sex scandal in our various parliaments , is it just me or is all this smoke and mirrors just hiding the dreadful truth of the terrible state our country is in, I in no way condone any of this terrible behaviour but I am getting very tired of this dominating the news when we as a nation are in such terminable decline and self destruction.
News on Scottish tv is beyond embarrassing, the level of reporting is pathetic, kittens up trees, dying dolphins and football WTF !
I could go on for ages but I can’t type fast enough to express my frustration and utter contempt for the appalling media in all mediums, their utter lack of proper news reporting and the pathetic level of challenging questions of politicians and reportage reporters making a living out of talking shite is the reason for me throwing my toys out the pram and having to sleep in th spare bedroom!
Q- if you do a “Tom Gordon” is this something to be ashamed off?
Yes
“I suspect it was someone from within Scottish Labour but I may be completely wrong.”
Delicious. It’s good to laugh laugh laugh.
100% wrong as always.
I as many others on this site are delighted to see the pathetic charges against Stuart being dropped ,I have been sent to Coventry in my house for loosing the plot on current affairs on our so called news outlets.
Without exception news outlets have spent the last three days on sex scandal in our various parliaments , is it just me or is all this smoke and mirrors just hiding the dreadful truth of the terrible state our country is in, I in no way condone any of this terrible behaviour but I am getting very tired of this dominating the news when we as a nation are in such terminable decline and self destruction.
News on Scottish tv is beyond embarrassing, the level of reporting is pathetic, kittens up trees, dying dolphins and football WTF !
I could go on for ages but I can’t type fast enough to express my frustration and utter contempt for the appalling media in all mediums, their utter lack of proper news reporting and the pathetic level of challenging questions of politicians and reportage reporters making a living out of talking shite is the reason for me throwing my toys out the pram and having to sleep in the spare bedroom!