The desperate hours
The general election 2015 has rounded the last bend and is heading down the final straight, with no clear winner in sight. Four days from now the UK electorate will go to the polls and deliver, if the numbers are to be believed, an unholy mess. Only one part of the country seems to know with clarity what it wants, and that’s “not Labour”.
The North British branch of the party has in truth been a political Easter egg for years – big and impressive-looking on the outside, but entirely hollow within – and this year it looks like the voters are finally going to shatter the shell and leave nothing but a small heap of fragments revealing just how little chocolate was ever there.
And the realisation has sent Labour completely out of its mind.
Above is a picture of the Conservative candidate for the East Renfrewshire seat, David Montgomery, campaigning yesterday at a stall in Clarkston shared with Scottish Labour regional manager Jim Murphy. (Who can be seen below at the same location a little later the same day.)
We’ve had unconfirmed reports of the same thing happening in other Scottish towns this weekend – open, unashamed public alliances between the two parties who swear blind that they’re mortal enemies and that each is the only hope of stopping the other forming the government.
It’s as if the referendum was this September, not eight months ago, and “Better Together” still lived. (An impression bolstered, of course, by the presence of so many of BT’s leading lights – to use the rhyming slang – at Scottish Labour HQ.) But it’s just one symptom of the demented, furious madness gripping the party that won 41 of Scotland’s 59 seats in 2010, and which could yet cost it the election.
Yesterday we highlighted the deception being practiced in Anas Sarwar’s seat, with a whole army of imaginary voters being concocted in order to send identical “personal” letters to residents of particular streets.
(We’re told by a source inside Labour, incidentally, that particular pressure is being put on the city’s Muslim and Asian community by Sarwar’s influential father Mohammad, a business kingpin who’s knocking doors and warning people not to kick out his son.)
We’re also seen another re-run of a classic “Better Together” tactic, with Jim Murphy sending frightened elderly voters a letter warning of dire consequences for their pensions should the SNP win.
More alarmingly, we’ve also seen a fake letter sent to a new SNP member purporting to be from the party, which starts plausibly before urging the recipient to vote Tory on the grounds that an SNP-Labour collaboration couldn’t work.
Despite that ostensible appeal the only logical source for the letter would be Labour supporters seeking to horrify new members who’d almost certainly have come from Labour, and send them back to the party.
That whoever sent it appears to have access to a database enabling them to target new SNP members is an especially sinister development.
It’s not just in Scotland that insanity has seized Labour. The Observer reports today that Ed Miliband plans to install a nine-foot stone monolith in the Rose Garden at 10 Downing Street if elected, with his key pledges (including the infamous “CONTROLS ON IMMIGRATION”) engraved on it, so that he can see it from his office.
(Combined with the Tories’ pledge to pass a law forbidding themselves from raising tax, thoughtful voters might well find themselves pondering why the two main parties have so little apparent belief in the honesty of their OWN promises that they need to either legally disqualify themselves from breaking them or build a ridiculous giant “Vowhenge” to keep themselves on the straight and narrow 24 hours a day.)
And the Labour website Labour Uncut has thrown caution to the wind and driven a coach and horses through every electoral law in the country by not only admitting that Labour has been illegally surveying and tallying postal votes, but then actually publishing the findings.
As far as we’re aware there’s still an ongoing police investigation in Scotland into several Unionist figures, including Scottish Labour’s chief of staff John McTernan and Scottish Conservatives leader Ruth Davidson, breaking postal-vote laws in similar but lesser ways during the independence referendum.
But it seems not to have dissuaded Labour or Labour Uncut, either from stomping all over those laws even more flagrantly or from gloating about it in public. We can only hope, for the sake of public faith in the democratic process, that there’ll be a serious reckoning for all of them to come.
The litany of lunacy seems almost without end. The same John McTernan last night suddenly conducted a complete U-turn of the principle on which Scottish Labour has conducted its entire election campaign – “the biggest party forms the government” – as media outlets leaked that the Tories would declare themselves the winners should they get the most seats, and left-wing pundits denounced such a move in horrified terms as a “coup d’etat”.
Of course, should the Conservatives attempt such a “coup”, they’d be able to produce dozens, perhaps hundreds, of quotes from senior Labour MPs – almost all Scottish – explictly backing their right to do so in the clearest possible terms.
Mindbogglingly, this appears to be a scenario that didn’t occur to Labour as they frantically tried to cling onto their Scottish fiefdom. And the implacably strident manner in which the UK party has rejected the democratic right of nationalist parties in Scotland to participate in UK government (while working enthusiastically with an Irish nationalist party) has deepened the hole Ed Miliband has idiotically dug himself into.
In essence, Labour’s strategy has been to attempt to hold the entire UK hostage in order to secure the seats on the Westminster gravy train of a bunch of Scottish MPs who are ultimately irrelevant to its chances of forming the government. “Don’t you dare vote SNP, however much you want to, because it’ll let the Tories in and that’ll be your fault” has been the constant hammer.
Yet as noted in the Labour-supporting Sunday People today, success for the SNP in Scotland actually HELPS Labour overall, because the SNP will not only vote against the Tories but can capture Lib Dem seats which currently support David Cameron and which Labour would have no hope of taking.
Currently Scotland provides a net 35 anti-Tory MPs (47 Labour and SNP minus 12 Tory and Lib Dem). Even were the SNP to pull off a clean sweep, wiping Labour out totally, that number would rise to 59 anti-Tory MPs. That’s 24 extra anti-Tory votes in the Commons compared to Labour’s Scottish landslide of 2010.
In an election as tight as this, those 24 extra votes could easily make the difference between Labour getting in and the coalition managing to cling on. But in its demented, blind, tribal hatred of the Nats, Labour not only risks handing Cameron that 24-seat advantage, but also the moral right to form the government even should the arithmetic be against him, by using Labour’s own “biggest party” lie against it.
Astoundingly, some Labour campaigners have even been complicit in a tactical-voting movement that would give even MORE Scottish seats to the Tories and Lib Dems – 16 rather than 12, whichever variant of the hilarious “wheel” you choose to follow, and every one of them giving the Tories at least six seats to their current one.
(Were the wheel to succeed entirely in its aims, Scotland would provide a net figure of just 27 anti-Tory MPs rather than 59, increasing Cameron’s advantage to 32.)
This year’s may be the single most catastrophically stupid election campaign ever undertaken by Labour (or anyone) in the UK, eclipsing even the party’s infamous 1983 “longest suicide note in history”.
Faced with an inconceivably brutal Tory administration which has failed in the single goal – ending the deficit – which it used to justify its cruelty, and the near-certain total collapse of the Lib Dems, only the most staggering ineptitude could have cost Labour power this time. But having thrown away a double-digit lead from the mid-point of the coalition, Ed Miliband may yet snatch defeat from victory’s jaws.
If he does so, the blame will lie almost entirely with his Scottish lieutenants, whose unthinking bile has led him to the brink of a Tory trap laid by David Cameron the day after the referendum. Counter-intuitive though it seems, Miliband’s best hope by far of being the next Prime Minister now lies in the SNP winning as many seats as possible.
They’ve all gone crazy over there. Self combustion and accelerated Darwinian evolution in full belt.
What will be ;last throw of the die this time?
The arithmetic is pretty raw and unforgiving.
How many red tories would then vote in favour of a blue tory queens speech as at the end of the day there would be little difference between a red and blue queens speech policy wise.
I believe that the United Kingdom is probably one of the most politically corrupt countries in the world.
I also believe Scotland deserves better than this.
And yet none of this reported in the mainstream media. The depths to which the North British branch of the Labour Party will sink is truly shocking. What a disgusting, nasty party. Cannot wait to experience their oblivion. What you reap you sow
That’s some fankle they’ve got themselves in to. We all reap what we sow, Labour have a huge harvest coming their way, in the shape of an electoral kicking. Hell mend them.
That fake “SNP” letter
Disgusting, deplorable and very sinister behaviour.
If it is from labour then it just goes to show that they will go to any lengths to cling on to their Scottish power base, including scraping the bottom of the proverbial septic tank.
Lets kick these bastards out once and for all. Vote SNP on Thursday.
What a damning article. Excellent. Well done Rev.
The fake SNP letter talks about the SNP’s first four year term as if it were ongoing. Currently we are in the SNP’s second term in Holyrood, and it’s a five year term. Even if the vote Tory message hadn’t rung any alarm bells that section would have for me.
They just cannot conceive of themselves being out of a job and irrelevant. They think that on 8 May they will still be a big beast. Little do they understand that to the remaining members of their party they will be the ones that lost and threw away the advantage that their ancestors spent a century building.
Pariahs not pandas
Excellent article, surely the final piece of the jigsaw leading to an SNP landslide
#thetruthwillsetScotlandfree
The Easter egg analogy is spot on
Thought my eyes were beyond popping when I visit this site, but the above proved me wrong.
One of your finest posts, Stu. Essential (if sickening) reading.
The coming Slab annihilation will be sweet beyond words.
This may be the single most catastrophically stupid election campaign ever undertaken by Labour (or anyone) in the UK
Bravo to you Stu for that sentence and Bravo to Douglas Alexander for this campaign
Contrarian opposition policy in epitome:
If you dislike our policies vote for parties we oppose, but never vote for the SNP whom we detest. Voting SNP achieves only policies you want but policies we oppose.
Is there any point in complaining to the Electoral Commission or Police Scotland about the opening and “sampling” of postal votes, as demonstrated by Labour Uncut link above?
We should be posting it far and wide.
I reported the Labour uncut allegations to the Electoral Commission and also to that new Crimestoppers Initiative. Can’t report the ‘new SNP member’ letter as I don’t have a clear copy.
It’s been quite clear for months where the two main parties’ coalition intentions lie – with each other. They’ve just stopped the pretence.
By the way Stu, your French is a bit off – the correct phrase for the current situation is “coup d’etwat”.
“The North British branch of the party has in truth been a political Easter egg for years – big and impressive-looking on the outside, but entirely hollow within”
Brilliant! 🙂
The ‘end-game’ is in sight, and all the Tory Party’s rhetoric about Ed being in Alex/Nicolas pocket, demanding that Labour tell ‘The Nation’ (England) if he will do a ‘back-room-deal’ with the ‘Separatists’ is now beginning to come to fruition.
The Tories have bullied the gormless Ed into painting himself into a corner, so now Cameron has every right to declare that he will declare himself winner if he has most seats.
This dares Miliband to attempt to get into number 10, without the same right wing media who have been bullying him screaming that he has done some sort of murky back-room-deal with the SNP.
He (and Labour) will be painted as ("Tractor" - Ed)s to England, who are willing to let the Scottish hoards rule of England just so that Labour can get into power again.
If they wouldn’t or couldn’t stand up to the Media’s onslaught before the election, just wait ’till we see the complete meltdown of the right wing media with threats of anarchy in the streets of England’s cities, (therefore goading English Nationalists into action)and the relentless demonising of every Labour MP.
Labour will become the Anti-English Party, that will simply build on the ‘far to Scottish’ party that they were portrayed as when Gordon Brown/Darling/ etc were in power.
Labour are completely finished, they just haven’t realised this yet.
The utter stupidity of Labour, especially their Scottish branch, laid beautifully bare there Rev.
Although I do think you don’t give enough credit to Millibland for his part in his own downfall.
It’s astonishing how Labour have fallen into so many Tory traps.
That should be ("Tractor" - Ed) Ed rather than tractor Ed. 🙂
Great and powerful post Stu.
Great pic’ of Broon in a “Brown Study”. 🙂
Presumably McVermin has his wages paid by the Labour Party, anybody know his salary and is he paid by results?
Murphy making out to Sally Magnusson that the Slab membership is around 20,000, no details available apparently as to what a member actually was.
A ‘must read’ article.
Thank you!
The fraudulent letters to SNP members apparently using info from SNP databases seems particularly shocking.
Three wheels on my wagon,
but I’m still rollin’ along,
the SNP
have gone past me
they look glad
things look bad
but I’m singin’ a happy song…
When all of these gaffes are put together like this one can only gasp in amazement.
Over and over they tried to fool the public and have only conned themselves.
I am afraid that Miliband is too weak to be Prime Minister and the SNP should demand his head as a price for cooperation.
This article brings to mind the gruesome medieval torture method used on the royal mile with rats being used on the victims stomach trying to desperately gnaw an escape route. Labour as the rat.
Can’t get Wacky Races by Hanna Barbara cartoons out of my mind.
Cameron is Dick Dastardly
Muttly is now any Libdem
Penelope Pitstop is Nicola
Slag Brothers are any P.R.for Westminster
Anthill Mob are UKIP
Other suggestion are available
Pretty much says it all
Rev Stu’s finest hour
Rev. Stuart: “only the most staggering ineptitude could have cost Labour power this time…”
I agree and would add that it takes a really good education to mess something up so badly but I wonder how else — realistically — Labour might have responded to the tsunami of SNP support.
I think Labour is paying the price for the Vow-Lie more than anything. Now they are opposed by the stalwart 45% and those who thought the Vow guaranteed Devo-max.
Nobody ever goes back to Labour once they see through their lies. Most people I know go away totally raging that they were ever so stupid as to trust Labour in the first place — it’s quite remarkable. We’ll never go back to them, not ever.
The fake SNP letter is interesting.
Not the fact they’re having to stoop to producing fake letters to further scare folk – nothing the Better Bedfellows do surprises me any more.
What does interest me though is this bit Stu:
“..whoever sent it appears to have access to a database enabling them to target new SNP members is an especially sinister development.”
If that were to be the case then would surly be a breach of Data Protection legislation. I hope that if there is any suspicion of this being the case it has been reported to relevant authorities to investigate, and prosecute if need be.
P.S In Elgin on Sat the parties all had their own stalls. Labour & Tories had brand new wall-paper pasting tables (good shout for who ever bought them as at least they’ll get used for their actual use after the election as they’ll not be used again by either party any time soon for canvassing). The SNP had the full set up – pop-up gazebo, cheerie chatty folk with foam hands, badges etc with a good crowd of folk stopping. The fermirs market wiz on tae, & the pipe band was oot an ‘a.. Fit’s nae tae like.
Great post rev Stu,
Slab deserve to lose all their seats for such despicable fraud and deceit.
They have lost all moral compass in their drive to hold a few Scottish seats.
Let’s kick them all out on the 7th of May.
From Duncan Hoth on Labour Hame
“Honest answer, Davie? Blair McDougall is a Labour hero, and John McTernan is a brilliant Labour strategist. I’m glad they are on our team.”
What an absolute shower Labour and their acolytes are. The positive is that they are a million miles from ever turning their present predicament around.
What a disgusting indictment of unionism.
THE VOW fraud, another giant historic rip off. No one knows what The Vow is going to produce, if anything at all but all we got was Brown/Daily Rancid/BBC and their vote NO for devo-max, federal UKOK, devo-max plus even. It will be interesting to read the Brown memoires and how he saved the union with THE VOW dramtic last minute intervention and frightening Scottish pensioners.
[…] The general election 2015 has rounded the last bend and is heading down the final straight, with no clear winner in sight. Four days from now the UK electorate will go to the polls and deliver, if the numbers are to be believed, an unholy mess. Only one part of the country seems to know with clarity what it wants, and that’s “not Labour”. […]
I see Ed now reduced to, “My Red Line’s bigger, and redder, than your red line”.
Hi Rev.,
Another excellent piece of research.
But I am getting filled with rage – not least because I was a former Labour voter – at all this creepy crookedness coming from somewhere that has the stench of New Labour about it.
This lawbreaking MUST be stopped and quickly too.
PLEASE can readers report that FAKE letter to Crimestoppers…
0800 555 111
link to crimestoppers-uk.org
Crimestoppers are currently having a “special” initiative on electoral fraud.
That FAKE letter, if it turns out to be what it looks to be, is breaking the Electoral Law, the Data Protection Act and likely some more serious legislation with a custodial sentence.
I would URGE any reader here to call Crimestoppers and report this lawbreaking.
The Independence Referendum was stolen by a 5% swing with a dishonest vow and Labour’s disgusting tactic of scaring elderly voters last time – and now from the above Murphy-death-o-gram, they are at it again.
If this lawbreaking is allowed to continue, the old adage goes:
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
I for one am utterly ashamed I ever voted Labour.
Never again Lord Murphy of Lies.
Murphy you have managed to turn this lifelong Labour voter into an SNP voter. Well done you clutz.
I’m now away to telephone 0800 555 111 and report this disgusting breach of the law and affront to democracy. PLEASE can you consider doing the same?
Thank you.
Alastair.
Gordon’s pensive look in Dalgety Bay yesterday morning?
“I really should have done something about the radiation.”
The Labour Party must be in possesion of names and addresses of new SNP members. Yesterday, the East Dunbartonshire candidate himself stood outside my home with three canvassers. He looked over at my house, consulted a clipboard, then indicated to the others to move on.
All of my neighbours were canvassed but not me. My wife and I couldn’t understand why we were missed out. We joined the SNP last September, immediately after the referendum.
Something’s not right here.
The fake letter has McTernan smeared all over it like thin skitter.
Top post Mr Campbell
“Vowhenge’ genius. Be using that on twitter.
What a shambles Mr Milliband has got himself in. If he needs middle England to rule and says fuck off to Scotland to show how hard he is well that is them finished up here. Arse
I wonder if one of the advisers that Moribund has been listening to in Scotland is Saint Dougie of the Diminutive? If so, that might go some way towards explaining why they are in such a mess. I mean, wee Dougie is not known up here as The Village Idiot for nothing.
I suspect that the sheer lunacy of the stone means that labour will lose in England as well. It displays sheer contempt for the electorate, no matter where they live.
He should be handing out red buttons “back of heads, for the use of”: it would probably be cheaper
Re-the 12 seats labour are trying to save. Surprised they have left out poster (lol!) girl and boy, namely Curran and Alexander out to dry.
Edstone doing that trendy thing on twitter.
Exhibit A
From Labour Uncut
“Although the parties are legally not allowed to tally votes at these events, they all do and the constituency teams then dutifully pass their field intelligence back to HQ.”
Exhibit B
The fake ‘SNP’ leaflet.
NOW can we call the police?
“Ed Miliband plans to install a nine-foot stone monolith in the Rose Garden at 10 Downing Street if elected, with his key pledges (including the infamous “CONTROLS ON IMMIGRATION”) engraved on it, so that he can see it from his office.
What an inane, ridiculously juvenile idea. Did he come up with that one all by himself? I hear Miliband wants to be Prime Minister when he grows up. The quicker that happens the better (grows up, I mean).
I wonder, if a pledges is delivered, will the twat have a tick engraved beside it?
They are scared, they are terrified.
Misquote of the week from me:
“Let slip the dogs of democracy”
Great article Mr Stuart. And just in time to educate us all on the desperate measures of mis information coming out from Labour.
Like most here I find the false SNP letter the most disturbing. An absolute affront to our democracy in Scotland. How can this be allowed. Very serious issue in my opinion. But what power do we the ordinary people have to counteract such measures.
[…] The desperate hours […]
According to Ruth Davidson on Twitter, even Johann Lamont though the stone was a stupid idea
Alex-and the unionists called Salmond Kim Jong Eck! They seem to be operating on levels N. Korea can only dream about!
Danny Alexander told Sky that any Lib Dems ruling out coalition with the Tories would not be “respecting the democratic will of the country”.
funny–libdems ruled out SNP
My personal view, which I have stated before, revolves around the theme of history. In this case, reflection on the political individual and their place in history. Tony Blair for example, fretted all the time, wondering how history would remember him as a political leader. When he finally made the greatest mistake of his political career, and decided to join in with George Bush and the invasion of Iraq, Blair’s place in history was cemented, but probably not as he wished. Remembered now as a slightly delusional figure with a severe streak of narcissism controlling his actions, Blair has found out to his cost, that the Gods play cruel tricks, and that he should have been more careful for what he wished for. Remembered he will be, but not as how he wished.
And this fate now awaits Ed Miliband in less than a weeks time. Already burdened with the view of fratricide after stealing his brother’s position as party leader, Ed Miliband could find that his name will become a different form of derision than that of Blair, as the spectre of absolute failure will surround the name of ‘Edward Samuel Miliband’.
Should Ed refuse to sit down and discuss options with Nicola Sturgeon, Leanne Wood and even Natalie Bennett, then Ed in all probability, will be not only be creating his own cross, but will be nailing himself to it.
To refuse to work with Sturgeon, the most liberal and conscious minded female politician …probably ever, will see Ed possibly handing the keys to No. 10 to his rival, David Cameron. The fallout from such a scenario, will see Ed demonised by his own party, removed from the position of party leader, and thrown into the complete wilderness as a person who cannot be trusted to take the initiative, while the Labour party in vain, will try to pull itself back from the chasm of absolute oblivion.
Should Ed fall, and Cameron is given a 2nd term, the Labour Party will forever be mocked as party that is indecisive; be labelled as ‘bottlers’; and will even see their hardcore membership walk away in disgust.
If we think the names of Michael Foot and Neil Kinnock are reminders of great failure, then Ed will take those words into a whole new level of context by next weekend. So disastrous could Ed’s decision be on Friday, that the Labour Party could fall away to the level of the Lib-Dems over time.
Ed on Friday morning will be the most important person in the country. He has to make one decision. Yea or Nay with Nicola. The Tories will sit on tenderhooks gleefully awaiting his decision either way, but at least with Nicola, he gets 5 years in office to prove that the decision that he made was the correct one, while he will face oblivion in the space of a second if he chooses otherwise.
The Gods watch, and the history books await …so what will it be Ed?
Having reviewed the law on the “FAKE” letter above, it appears to be a matter for POLICE SCOTLAND.
Several STATUTES have been infracted. The Police will likely say this is “not a police matter” and try and stear any complainant to the Electoral Commission – and away from the police. Helps with the police crimesolving numbers etc.
However, whilst it is competent for either Crimestoppers (a charity) or the Electoral Commission to review this FAKE and UNLAWFUL letter, this FAKE letter is definitely a police matter.
PLEASE CONSIDER DIALLING 101 and ask Police Scotland to investigate. Do NOT be put off or fobbed off by an attempt by the police triage call handler to stear you to the Electoral Commission.
Gerrymandering of the electoral process is a very serious issue.
Stuart has obtained some damning evidence. Not just criminal breaches of the Representation of the Peoples Act 1983, but other criminal infractions such as fraud, identity theft, fraudulent impersonation and deceit, obtaining pecuniary advantage by deception, data protection breach, mailing breaches – a whole raft of lawbreaking.
So if you do dial
Police Scotland on 101
Politely let the call handler know that if the police fail to take this appalling effort to gerrymander an election seriously then it may well be a case of lodging a formal “Neglect of Duty” complaint against Police Scotland.
This is a grave matter. Literally.
Austerity is killing disabled and vulnerable people and whatever your view on politics, electoral lawbreaking and fraud by people who wish to steal an election and corruptly gain political office and pecuniary advantage is not tolerable in a democracy.
PLEASE CALL POLICE SCOTLAND ON 101 NOW IF YOU CARE ABOUT DEMOCRACY.
Hundreds, possibly thousands of those FAKE letters have been sent out, and the miscreants require to be found and brought to proper justice. Only the police have the investigative powers to do that.
John H. @ 1:10
Exactly the same,I am in Aberdeen South,last week I watched them canvassing the street,both Red and Blue Tories.
The Blue Tory chapped my door,we had an amicable chat and I did not take his leaflet,all good,I waited in anticipation for the Red Tory (Anne Begg) to chap the door approx 1 hr between Red/BLue canvassers.
I waited,running over my questions a few times to make sure I was on the ball.
Here they come,next door,then they consulted their clip board and did not chap my door,moved on down the street,>_<
Definitely knew
Al- hate to ask the obvious but why don’t you phone them?!
Carjamtic-who would have access to the SNP database? And then hand it to “scottish” labour?
Murphy’s Union Jack pants must be well fired by now.
New and unchartered times lie ahead for us all in Scotland after the 7th, and I do wonder what that situation will be afterwards as we move forward with whatever scenario comes to play.
So much mistrust has formed, so much deception played out and then, the outright falsehoods uttered by the many who fear change to their comfortable status quo.
I wonder how those long established institutions, be they political or media based, are going to face the majority of the Scots electorate (if the current polls are reflective and accurate)…those who they have blatantly dismissed as extremist, deluded or whatever derogatory jibe suits their particular audience, in order that their well entrenched ‘club mentality’ can continue its detached agenda to suit the few.
…and let’s not even get started on the contradictory and detached Nazi, Commie, extremist bile dished out to so many ordinary Scottish voters.
For all those who have championed the “we won – you lost, get over it” or the “Smith Commission now delivers greater powers”…what will their honest and ‘well reflected upon’ response be to the majority Scottish voices that they have been so disparaging of?
What will be their track-record defence to those who have rejected their gerrymandered vision of the Scottish status within the now fractured, but well-established as a corrupt UK political system?
But why will the people not think of all the uncertainty? D:
The ‘Edstone has to take the biscuit. I thought that was just an idea being floated by Ed. I only realised an hour or so ago that the thing actually exists.
It is certainly giving people a laugh. The 2001 Space Odyssey take off is funny.
This is a great article and exposes that the Labour Party and it dinosaurs have all gone completely mad and have tried everything to stop the winds of change sweeping through Scotland.
On checking Twitter it would appear a postie has leaked plans that the last throw of the dice for the Labour Party is getting the Royal Mail to deliver leaflets to EVERY household in Scotland.
The subject is “save the NHS” and first leaflet says “48 hours to save the NHS” and is to be delivered on Tuesday.
The second leaflet is to be delivered on Wednesday saying “24 hours to save the NHS”
Would voters really fall for that? Did the get this from focus groups?
This could be correct or misinformation and they have something else up their sleeve.
I suggest the latter.
Can’t call 101 as I’m not in the UK but fake letter and Labour tallying of postal votes both reported to Crimestoppers. If I was in Scotland I’d be on to local copshop pronto. Will also mail Electoral Commission. If enough people complain someone might just do something, but breath not being held.
joemcg@ 1:45
Joe I am no conspiracy theorist,even after indyref,I can only report what I see,I assumed all the parties would have a list,if such lists existed.
I can tell you that the driveway/access to my door is the most wheel chair friendly in the whole street so can rule that out.
The Red Tories consulted their clip board and gave me a body swerve,normally I would not have noticed,probably,but now politically active,I eagerly awaited a wee doorstep debate.
My wife had a good laugh at me being left disappointed and I never gave it a second thought until today,just saying they knew that’s all,no accusation’s,maybe this is perfectly normal.
Murphy doesn’t give a hee-haw about the arithmetic. He’s just in it for himself. Pure and simple.
“Every man for himself. Women and children first. No wait–stand aside. Jim Murphy coming through.”
Please let there be a God and get rid of this self-serving, egotistical, narcissistic, lying, cheating, loud-mouth, motor-mouth trougher. Aye–and all his pals too: Alexander, Curran, Davidson, Sarwar, Harris – the effing lot of them.
But Murphy would be the icing on the cake. Please God make it happen.
I can see the MSM headlines now as to respond to theft of the SNP database.
SNP DATABASE SCANDAL
The SNP loses your confidential and personal data. How can we trust them in government.
Paula Rose says:
Edstone doing that trendy thing on twitter….
should read FRedFLINTstone
“Ed Miliband plans to install a nine-foot stone monolith in the Rose Garden at 10 Downing Street if elected, with his key pledges (including the infamous “CONTROLS ON IMMIGRATION”) engraved on it, so that he can see it from his office.”
… and beside it, another stone inscribed with the famous front page of the Record, when the three stooges made a solemn VOW to the people of Scotland.
No No No Yes
That might be a UK Labour leaflet. It has more relevance if it is UK wide. A bit mental if only Scotland.
ok we know the twisted nutjobs have lost it ,two things in the article can’t be let go or overlooked evidence in order to secure a investigation into (1)sampling of postal votes (2) access to the SNP database i know its all hands to the pumps on the run up to Thursday’s vote can anyone provide this information not second hand he says etc this must be passed on if its not it will be buried as the Frenchgate investigation will be don’t just moan about it get it out
The fake letter doesn’t in itself indicate they have access to a database of members. And I think people should calm down a bit.
Are you really suggesting that they are systematically printing fake letters, purporting to be from the SNP, using illegal access to a database of names and addresses, for this sort of thing?
Apart from the fact that it would probably be a wasted effort — who in their right mind would swallow it and vote tory? — they would be caught immediately.
It’s more likely a one-off prank that someone has concocted for a relative or friend who they know has recently joined the SNP.
Nothing to see here, move along now…
Joemcg at 3 May, 2015 at 1:45 pm says: Al- hate to ask the obvious but why don’t you phone them?
Hi Joe, Fair play, a good question. I have made a formal complaint to Police Scotland regarding this letter. So have family members.
There is a certain correlation to VOLUME of complaints and police action. It should not be this way, but anyone who knows what happened to Commander John Yates at the Metropolitan Police in London…
link to channel4.com
…may understand that the more evidence that is gathered, and the more witnesses interviewed, the stronger the case against the miscreants if/when brought to court.
So Joe, I’ve done a civic duty today in reporting that corrupt FAKE letter to Police Scotland.
Please can I politely ask if you, and indeed others here who may care about democracy and corruption of it being prevented, take a few moments and call Police Scotland on 101 to make a FORMAL complaint alleging lawbreaking. This is clearly evident by the above FAKE missive corruptly misrepresenting another and deceitfully urging the recipient to vote Conservative.
Also to investigate how many of these have been sent out, in which constituency – as there may be a rerun in the FAKE letter constituency similar to the Oldam High Court ordered rerun…
link to en.wikipedia.org
Cheers, Alastair
They are not body swerving houses because you have SNP posters in the windaes?? Lol
Ok well done Alistair. I’m not very forceful especially over the phone so I would probably get fobbed off I’m afraid.
yep, a very good post, extra box of mint chocolate stick things this coming friday evening for the author.
remember hold, hold, hold, hold, your nerve scots, vote snp for stronger voice in the union.
That fake SNP letter is hilarious. More than likely the recipient has a friend who likes a practical joke and knows he’s just joined the SNP.
To add to the circus clown fest that is Scottish Labour, Duncan Hothersall has said on Twitter that Blair McDougall is a Labour hero, and John McTernan is a brilliant Scottish Labour strategist! Where do you even begin with that nonsense?… D: D:
@HandandShrimp
“Edstone”…I’m still Laughing
Teeriffik…
The unionist politicians in Scotland remind me of rats deserting a sea worthy ship that is heading in a different direction to them.
Note the words Collaboration and rhetoric in that fake letter. Unionist mantras. It does seem like a practical joke though it’s that poorly written and pathetic!
No I am in ‘spam valley’ ;-),not a single house has poster for any party,don’t know why,good neighbours n all that,but nobody discusses politics cept in the pub over a beer…..guess that rules out a lot of them,maybe down to indyref 🙂
“This could be correct or misinformation and they have something else up their sleeve.
I suggest the latter.”
I agree. I think that something rotten will be put under our collective nose close to the 7th but not too close that we will be able to do anything to refute it or prove its fraudulence.
But it won’t make any difference because we’ve been here before and they simply don’t get it.
This is an excellent analysis. We can but hope Miliband might actually see it, before this Scottish chums completely destroy his electoral chances.
It is truly, truly beyond belief, that there are LABOUR folks in Scotland trying to ensure Tories win seats, just to keep the SNP out, without actually realising they are making another Tory Government more likely.
Labour in the Scottish branch office, has lost the plot. For their own selfish interest, they will happily sacrifice Miliband’s chances, and secure a victory for the Tories.
In all my days, I never thought I would ever see such rank, selfish, stupidity.
John h 1310:referring to your comment my wife receives slab propaganda addressed to her but I as an SNP member have received nothing but recycle bin is good enough for them anyway.
Finally, a picture of a man who knows he has been well and truly BEATEN! (top pic)
Broon the Loon sitting at a table all on his little ownsome with a face that looks like it has been slapped a dozen times with a wet fish. Why has it taken folks so long to, in effect, tell Broon to **** off?
Broon the man with NO power since 2010 and yet thousands still hung on his every word. Now he is in the final death throes of a numpty nobody and at last everyone can see him and Labour for what they really are … desperate incompetents!
Any chance Labour have hacked the SNP sites and taken the information ? The papers they work with have history in that direction
Good analysis Stu
However I think it would be a mistake to assume that the SNPout mob are centre left in thier political persuasion.
I believe that they are trying to increase the Tory vote. I also think that some of them are of the far right persuasion
“However I think it would be a mistake to assume that the SNPout mob are centre left in thier political persuasion.”
I don’t assume that at all. They’re Tories playing a few gullible Labour people for chumps.
Joemcg says:2:13 pm
“They are not body swerving houses because you have SNP posters in the windaes?? Lol”
My house is on a busy road Joe, with the O/O marching past regularly. Do you think it would be wise of me to put up any SNP posters?
RE: Ed’s nine foot monolith.
A fitting tombstone.
RIP
Dear Stu
Wings has had several amazing achievements over the past few years, not least your calling out the supposed professional pride of our journalists and point up the absurdities of our political culture. Behind occasionally juvenile jokes you’ve maintained a high standard of journalistic integrity on your pages impossible not to respect even if readers do not always agree with your conclusions.
I have to say today’s post sets a new standard of excellence. There is a tectonic shift taking place and there can be no further denial. It only remains to be seen whether the British State will respect the expression of people’s democratic will. Whatever’s coming you have an important role to play.
Best wishes
The Doc
P.S. ‘Vowhenge’ might be the sharpest, funniest barb I’ve read during this campaign.
Great article Stu.
Just a word of caution about that fake SNP letter. Is there any evidence that there is more than one of these letters out there? For example could it just have been sent as a one off noise up to the recipient, by a ‘quizmeister’ chum? I can’t imagine that the SLab high heidyins would sanction such an obvious fraud… they’re too obsessed with covering their own bahookies: typically Labour lies are couched in a terms that could let them wriggle off the hook when caught.
I’d want to see a few more examples of this before starting an ‘MI5 gave SLab the SNP member database’ panic.
Bob Mack says:
3 May, 2015 at 2:32 pm
Any chance Labour have hacked the SNP sites and taken the information ? The papers they work with have history in that direction
Or “an agent” has passed on the information, which is even more sinister.
It passeth all understanding says Rev Crash Broon
Ditto
I joined the SNP after the referendum but my wife just doesn’t
take any interest in politics, but I hope she follows my ramblings about the Westminster parties.
Every piece of literature through our door comes address only to my wife?
Letter and fliers from the Local alleged MP, and a letter from Brown Gary Train himself.
How do they know not to waste their time with me?
From the evidence abouve, they have breached data security at the SNP HQ. Criminal act but will the elitist’ police do anything?
John, I was only joshing! Yeah I would not put my posters up in any loyalist enclaves either. Seems to be a west of Scotland problem that. Really think the SNP should clamp down on these marches on both sides severely.
If the polls hold true and on Friday labour need the democratically elected snp MPs to get ed in to no10 I really hope our MPs bleed him dry and we take every last bit of his temporary power to get what Scotland needs to flourish.
Luigi at al,
I’d suggest it almost guaranteed there are “insiders” at SNP HQ.
Rev.
Utterly Brilliant analysis
O/T – am gutted I missed the wingers get together on Friday. I had to work. Sorry folks
edstone
“I have here 15 comman…….crash
“I have here 10 commandments
if not the longest suicide note in history, defo the heaviest lol
I’ve just received some guff from Libs saying, according to latest Survation poll, Jo Swinson is 2% ahead of SNP. Anybody know if there’s any truth in this?
No cut in stone pledge to NOT speak with the SNP, though.
@Pam McMahon says:
3 May, 2015 at 12:33 pm
“Is there any point in complaining to the Electoral Commission or Police Scotland about the opening and “sampling” of postal votes, as demonstrated by Labour Uncut link above?”
In Ref 2 thre had better be.
Amybody think that the SNP false letter is not the work of Dirty Ops UK?
Time to get the fuck out.
Ed Moses…no the labour one..here.
ttps://archive.is/jRjAM
On the subject of Labour having access to the Membership database I can only say that I know for a fact that both Labour and the Conservatives have been sending addressed leaflets through the Royal Mail to SNP members.
Their efforts, if anything, have seemed clumsy and spectacularly ill-informed.
Archive not working on BBC 🙁
link to bbc.co.uk
Edstone is a massive misjudgement of “In the thick of it” proportions. Complete own goal. The mis-step that the Tories and their allies have been wating for. Still can’t really believe that professional media operatives have allowed this to happen -and it must have taken quite a while to organise. Miliband has thrown away England. It’s an absolute ridicule goldmine that will haunt him to the ‘grave’.
is it true that hawkwind are playing @ the 1st vowhenge festie?
I’ve just read an artical in the torygraph post by “wiffy beans” on the SNPout Twitter – it is completely disgusting reading trying to insight racial hatred towards anyone who votes snp. After May the 8th it’s gonna get really dirty.
I see Ed is leaving Wallace & Grommet for another Cartoon.
I doubt Labour would know how to get planning permission for that Stone age Garden Vow .
There would be no shortage of Chiselers in the party who could jot down their revised list of stone.
The slimy slugs would never go near it.
Well the type with shells might?
Labstones. Meet the Slabstones.
They’re stone age modern party.
They scrapped down to Bedrock,
They’re a page right out of infamy.
Let’s rid that party from our street.
Through the courtesy of Ed’s two right feet.
When you’re with the Slabstones
Have a yabba dabba doo time.
A dabba doo time.
We’ll have a great old time.
theSLABstoneslyrics.html
Luigi, I would take bets on there being someone from the Establishment in the SNP, perhaps more than one. The IRA found that out. The SNP may have never taken up arms but they intend to (as they like to say) break up Britain, so everything will be done to scupper that.
And yet out canvassing at the weekend the same old statement could still be heard
We’re fine as we are
The best analogy I can come up with is the slave getting mercilessly whipped and saying it could be worse they could be using barbed wire
Kevin evans, we have spent a bit of time removing stickers off lamp posts and post box with SNPout. Someone spent a bit of time in an evening putting them all on. Well we took off a few but shall we say there are more of us than there are of them.
When Rev tweeted a link to this ‘Edstone’ story late last night I had a quick glance and laugh but honestly thought it was a joke.
I’m almost fifty-two and cannot remember anything even remotely close to this for brazen witless fucking stupidity. I mean, really, FFS, who could ever think this was a good idea? Stunning.
I see Iain Martin has written yet another batshit crazy article for the Telegraph. These fools must be in need of a long lie down in a darkened room. Their imaginations are running riot, and it is spilling over into terror, utter panic, and utter madness. If this is want they are like before voting, imagine what they will be like if the results go our way? Ooft. :D: :D:
Labour dinosaurs back to the stone age.
Sunday Herald saying that the membership of the SNP (more than 110,000) is catching up fast on the UK Tories which is estimated to be 150,000 and the UK labour which is about 200,000 with the Lib/Dems in at a UK value of about 44,000.
Good read today. I bought it for the front cover, it is full of excellent SNP articles for the first 14 pages.
Much of Ed’s planning seems to be based on the assumption that the SNP will note vote against a Labour minority on a confidence motion. I don’t thing that he realises than an SNP abstention in such a vote would kill a Labour government just as much as a vote against, but (if properly handled) have fewer consequences for the SNP.
My paranoia continues. I already posted on Off-topic that Linkedin has Kezia Dugdale listed as someone I may know.
There are three voters in this house, early on my daughter received a letter from J Hood, yes him, now my wife has received the same,
I feel so unloved! No letter!
I am not a member of any political party so I suppose WoS is their source. Maybe all Robert Kerrs are filtered out.
Enjoy.
Bob Mack says:
Any chance Labour have hacked the SNP sites and taken the information ? The papers they work with have history in that direction
Anything is possible Bob remember the YES HQ computers were allegedly hacked during the referendum. As far as I’m aware nothing has ever come from that investigation.
McWhirter: (Hope archive works)
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Of course, no-one believes these polls. I can’t see the SNP winning every seat in Scotland. Even after catastrophes, some people are left standing and I fully expect that on Friday morning there will still be a number of Labour MPs boasting that they survived the Nat-aclysm.
link to archive.is
Someone’s got to do it…
Spinal Tap, ‘Stonehenge’ –
link to youtube.com
Sorry for O/T here, but as a wee follow up to recent discussions about voting fraud on various articles thought folks may be interested in this.
link to conservativehome.com
There cannot be many people who have access to the full membership of the SNP at the party’s HQ. I am very wary of jumping to conclusions though. It may have been hacked, who knows. I suppose it could have come from one or more of the branches as well. It is probably best just to concentrate on getting the best result that we can.
I’m looking forward to Thursday and Friday so, so much. Absolutely pissing it down in Torry this morning, and we still had about 14 of us chapping doors. Just as well, since Aberdeen South is apparently one of the 12 seats Labour are bussing activists up to from England!
@call me dave at 3:05 p.m.
Here it is!
link to archive.is
Oh well done Rev, that is one of your best ever. Oh for the MSM to have such journalistic standards.
Hatred is such a soul destroying emotion. It destroys you from the inside. SLAB viceral hatred of the SNP and their sense of self entitlement is what has helped to put them where they are now.
Their two biggest mistakes came during the referendum. Being the mouthpiece for better together and standing on the same platform as the blue tories, scunnered most of their heartland. Standing up there with great big grins on their faces, decrying their own people. Then the idiocy that was the VOW, how that has shown them up to be the liars that most of us new they were.I remember posting last year durng the referendum campaign, that come the general election SLAB would be handed out the same fate that befell the blue tories, and it looks as if that is about to happen. Big time.
Then we have Miliband ‘s no deal with the SNP or Plaid Cumru. Then this morning I read about his big stane for the rose garden of number 10. Well his chances of that happening seem to be receding each time he opens his mouth. I don’t think he really wants to win.
Having watched all of this, I always thought that Miliband would not make a good PM. To wishy washy and lilylivered. Now I’m quite sure that he would be a complete and utter disaster. What happens now when the smoke clears on the 8th May, I have no clue. I think Miliband might find himself knifed from within Labour, and Camerson replaced with the idiotic Boris. God help us all.
So well done Labour for a truly dirty and unedifying campaign. Mabye you should have tried telling the electorate what you stood for, then the might have listened to your policies, if you had any.
Well done also to that most spineless of creature, Douglas Alexander. What a way to run an election. I sincerely hope that Mhairi Black wins his seat.
re Those databases and how the eff do they know.
I am just off the phone to a mate in Aberdeen. He seen the Labour canvassers coming and put the kettle with the full intention of inviting them in for a cup a tea and to delay them as much as possible before telling them he was going to vote SNP 🙂
They walked right past his house. He doesn’t even have any posters stickers up etc. He was canvassed by Yes Scotland during the referendum but never by the SNP in the past and he is not a member of the SNP either. Indeed up to 2011 he was a life long Labour voter. He had ben canvassed by them in 2007 but not since. Perhaps Labour are using Yes Scotland databases as they don’t seem to be using their own???
There is a rat aboot!
I see the In The Thick of It producer has sighted the Edstone as one of the reasons there is no point to making any more programmes. The politicians are doing it all themselves now.
Effijy
Brilliant take off the Flintstones. Singing away but couldn’t get a picture of Alistair Carmichael out of my head ( I know wrong party but a ‘Tory’ all the same)
donald anderson
delighted, see skara brea.
most people stick post it notes on the fridge!
not that’s there’s anything wrong with one’s own personal henge, but it’s something i would only tell my closest friends about.
i’d worry as a customer, a mechanic needed a note ‘pick up spanner’ ‘to tighten nut right hand thread, turn nut clockwise, lht anti-clockwise’.
i use the nut example wisely.
🙂
@Ally McEwen
My constituency Ally and she’s well behind John Nicholson
even though Lib Dum High Command has thrown the kitchen sink in terms of money at it Swinson has practically no activists
I’ve seen her plowing a lone furrow through the streets, but not often, she’s a big head who feels entitled
Her main policy seems to be vote SNP get cancer (not prone to scaremongering the lib dums eh)
If she were to win here I’ll eat my own head
or according to Jo Swinson I’ll get cancer
Kevin evans at 3:08
Don’t panic. The source story is here – link to libdemvoice.org
There main findings were
“The poll, with methodology designed by the LibDems but carried out by an independent company, shows a mere two per cent divide between Ms Swinson from SNP candidate John Nicholson.
It also predicts that Labour will take just 16 per cent of the vote and the Conservatives just 13 per cent.
The results were: Lib Dem 34.5%, SNP 32.1%, Lab 16.2%, Con 13.1%, Green 2%, Ukip 0.7%
A total of 413 people took part in the telephone poll with seven questions, carried out on April 9.”
Telephone polls are not regarded as very accurate and such a small sample should automatically reduce the accuracy to around +/-5%. Also worth noting ‘methodology designed by the LibDems’!
Robert Kerr says:
3 May, 2015 at 3:27 pm
My paranoia continues. I already posted on Off-topic that Linkedin has Kezia Dugdale listed as someone I may know.
Robert I wouldn’t worry about it. It could be a friend of a friend ad infinitum. Linkedin and Facebook do it all the time. I get similar “someone you might know” messages about people I have never heard of.
Ed Miliband:
Our nation of Scots have travelled and settled throughout the world. Emigration/immigration, we are full participants in the migration of people.
Ed Miliband, the son of an immigrant, leader of the Labour party, the Red Flag flying high etc.party, tells the ancient Scots nation – equal signatories to the Union of Parliaments – that he will not accommodate, treat, or take account of the expressed democratic wishes of our nation should we vote SNP even if his stance fails to gain power for his party. Further he adds to his embargo the people of Wales. And the many citizens of England who may have vote Labour at the coming election.
Ed Miliband is not fit to be a public servant.
@Almannysbunnet
Thanks but!
Miliband looks like he wants to throw away the election to the Tories. I am not getting the expression that they Labour in general want to win, and be in government. Miliband’s actions in the last few days have been utterly ridiculous. His comments on QT, and this fucking stone idea are batshit crazy. The ****** looks like he wants to hand the Tories the keys to Number 10 already.
Ah the stone of density. That monolith will be on Ebay by the end of the week, “unused folly, will ship to mainland UK, shipping to Scotland extra, call for quote.” Shows how easy it is to fake a signature though, even in stone. C’mon Ed prove that you signed that yourself, let’s see the blisters.
There may be trouble for Ed! But moves are afoot to save him.
link to archive.is
Another gem, Stu. When you get into full dissertation mode there is no one better.
Dissection mode. Sorry
VOWHENGE!
I love this site.
This nasty fake letter is dirty.
We should open a little kitty jar with a reward leading to the exposure of those involved.
There are a few starting points.
Where it was printed, distributed and how it gets into a letterbox.
Even after the election has passed we can’t afford to have these individuals operating freely.
I get the feeling it’s got creepy written all over it, but hard proof would be better.
Reaching out to anyone who had mixed feelings about being involved in this campaign tactic.
The fact that the majority of people in this Country will feel embarrassed to know you should maybe prick your conscience?
Whoever has employed you to do this has made you into a Troll.
They will disown you, you have been their monkey.
They have given you something to do that will always be something shameful in the eyes of your people.
Tell us why you felt this was needed. This will never be something to be proud about.
That’s no monolith. It’s a tombstone!
Ed is the new King of Rock and Roll…
Vowhenge and a bacon roll that is.. 🙂
My eyesight is obviously not what it used to be, I just read the title as ‘The Desperate Hoors’
Slightly O/T.
Now we know why Craig Murray was not selected by SNP.
link to craigmurray.org.uk
I shall say no more!
To Kevin Evans; See independencelive livestream and go 20 mins. in
Lollysmum from London , [just outside of] and others.
David Cameron is the biggest instigator of the SNPout’ers
I know this sounds completely bizarre, but given the performances of Murphy and now Ed, I am seriously beginning to think that the Labour Party has been infiltrated by the Americans in order to make them unelectable!
It was never a problem in the past, because the Red Tories were always compliant money and ermine chasers. But because a Labour government would need to rely on the SNP — all principled and genuine left-wing politicians — that is no longer possible to imagine for the US pawn in the EU and UN Security Council. All that talk of the rule of international law and UN charter of human rights!!
Ironic, given the claims in the 1970s that the Soviets had infiltrated the Wilson govt, talk of a military coup… But I have just no other explanation for the performances of Murphy and Ed! Murphy is bone-headed and naturally thick; Ed is a puppet who is incapable of putting his shoes on without getting prior permission…
Hi Stu.,
Am wading through Police Scotland mud just now, and need to know if this the FAKE letter you posted is a “joke” or whether the Glasgow constituent is one of MANY.
If the former – a joke – then in fairness to the police I think we let them do what they seem best at – fobbing people off with crime isn’t a police matter. Just let the gerrymandered FAKE letters issue drop, so they can get back to chomping on donuts.
Though little wonder Police Scotland Chief Constable Sir Stephen House is close to getting his P45 with his silver bedecked uniform hanging on a very shoogly peg. Am keen to be afforded the facility to question him at the next available opportunity when he is summoned before public committee at Holyrood.
Notwithstanding that, IF this FAKE letter is a concerted effort to GERRYMANDER an actual constituency seat by even just a few percentage points and effectively steal it from another candidate then we are looking at serious infraction of several laws, plus some heavy questioning of Sir Stephen about those constables he pays who allegedly demonstrate fear, favour, affection, malice or ill-will contrary to the police regulations and enacted laws. This sort of mess has, as mentioned happened before…
link to bbc.co.uk
…and if a Glasgow Constituency can be proven to be the subject of fraud and corruption then Police Scotland, under the law, are now liable to pay towards the cost due to possible negligence – subject to the ruling of a Sheriff or High Court Judge.
I’d be really grateful if you could advise whether you reckon the FAKE letter is a “joke” or alternatively if it is a concerted effort to phish and/or dupe even just a few voters? If so, then it really requires police action under the relevant statutes and common law crimes.
Best regards,
Alastair.
FT.com’s “possible coalitions of alliances” is interesting.
link to archive.is
Basically, the Tories cannot form a working government without Labour support!
Will Milliband really allow the Tories into government? He seems to say he would, but will he?
Would Channel four launch an investigation? They seem the most likely TV company to be fair. What about John Pilger? These issues need to be looked into. However we need to maintain our cool. Have a chuckle. There are always things to laugh at.
link to mistygee4.wix.com
Fred Blogger, ta, Guinness a’ ower the screen.
Re Edhenge, Neolithic notes for a neolithic mindset.
“Vowhenge” love it! 🙂
I have an SNP sticker in the windae to keep Magrit Curran away, I’ve been looking for a wee rowan branch to nail over the door but it’s no oot yet!
Nice of Jim Murphy to get his letters printed in England! Scottish Labour, ignoring the entire Scottish print industry again!
I want at least 50 SNP MP’s on Friday. I want at least 75 SNP MSP’s (plus another 5 to 10 Scottish Green/Socialist etc MSP’s), a year come Friday.
I want an increase in SNP’s Councillors, 2 years come Friday including control over Aberdeen City Council, Dumfries and Galloway, East Dunbartonshire, East Lothian, East Renfrewshire, Edinburgh, Falkirk, Fife, Glasgow, Inverclyde, Midlothian, North Lanarkshire, Renfrewshire, South Lanarkshire, Stirling, West Dunbartonshire and West Lothian.
Even though I’m Anti-E.U. I will reluctantly vote against leaving Europe if it helps Scotland be at odds with Anti-E.U. England.
I believe this vote will take place the same day as the Local Election Vote. If the U.K. as a whole votes to leave, 5th November 2018 would be a good day for a “U.K. Independence day”. Remember, remember the 5th of November and all that guff. Just in time for the Century celebration of Armistice day, 6 days hence. At that point, if not after the U.K. Secession vote 18 months earlier, the Scottish Government should, at the very very least, go into the 2020 Scottish Election with a promise for a 2nd Independence Referendum.
I instead would personally start to organise a second referendum after May 2017 and then plan to go to the country no later than May 2019.
Stephen.
@connor mcewan
Yea I checked out the get together on livestream last night – it looked like a good laugh
Hi Al-Stuart.
How dare you malign all of Police Scotland in this way.
My husband has twice this week been about to walk out the door at the end of his shift and ended up working an additional 8 hours on each occasion, because someone needed help in one form or another.
This goes for all who have the same attitude. Shame on you.
Helena Brown at 3.17
You could bet your sweet life in that. I could give you names.
As I have said before anybody who believes that the SNP is not seriously infiltrated would wonder what the UK Government is doing with the taxes it collects.
Of course the SNP is infiltrated
Of Course the YES campaign was infiltrated
(and probably the SSP,and the Greens and even elements in the Labour party)
‘Edstonegate’ has masonic involvement written all over it.
‘Controls on immigration’- I bet Cameron is wishing he had thought of getting this tattooed on his butt, or forehead, or projected in Technicolor onto the Palace of Warminster.
I am seriously ashamed that the UK makes xenophobic statements a jewel in their crown of shite manifestos. Especially insensitive at this time, of the UKs part in cutting search and rescue in the Med knowing deaths would result, but hey, it might reduce the ‘pull factor’.
The desperate hoors?
Rod MacKay
cheers.
perhaps stone-ed should re populate easter island.
🙂
@Dave McEwan Hill
“Of course the SNP is infiltrated… and PROBABLY… elements in the Labour Party”
“Probably”! LOL, roflmfao … you mean there’s somebody left in Lab who’s NOT a furtively lurking creepy neocon apparatchik???
I said this here as far back as February. There will be a Grand Alliance between Tories and at least a right wing Labour Rump.
If you think of the election as a Game of Volleyball, with the net as the half way line of 325 MP’s, the Main protagonist on the left is wearing red shorts but a pink top as the red has been washed away, (Labour). On this side is a girl in a green leotard shouting meat is murder, (Green), another girl in green and white talking in Welsh, (Plaid Cymru), with two red headed girls doing an Irish dance, (SDLP and Alliance).
On the Right hand side is the guy in the blue shorts with a turquoise top as it’s also faded a little, with a couple of boys in red white and blue playing flutes, (DUP and UUP), and an old Colonel talking about Wogs starting at Calais, (UKIP).
So where does that leave the Liberal Democrats and the SNP? Well, the Liberals are a small red haired dwarf wearing an orange top and shorts running under the net going from left to right saying, “Pick me please, pick me”, and the SNP are a yellow ball with a black knot, being hit from left to right over the net, being passed from pillar to post, neither blue shorts nor red shorts wanting anything to do with the yellow ball of Scottish Nationalism.
So what happens? Mr Red shorts drops the ball, goes over and puts his arms round Mr Blue shorts shoulder, and together walks hand in hand into the sunset dangling the keys of Number 10. Mr Red shorts might hack his left limbs off to get through the narrow door with Mr Blue shorts, but he’ll think it’s worth it to become Deputy Prime Minister.
A Grand Alliance of Right and Centre Labour MP’s with the Tories.
An Alliance made in hell.
Stephen.
@scotspine, Hopefully you are joking.I dont tnink anyone has maligned the police that I can see.Why are you taking offence?
Check the state of Broons coupon in the first picture
A Gordon Brown lookalike with an Easter Island Statue ties in nicely with Eds rock of shame
Where Labour vows, pledges, promises and solemn undertakings go to die…
@ Ally McEwen at 3.01 and several other people since:
Apologies for taking so long to reply (computer sulking); I see you have had a number of answers in the interim, but here’s what I planned to say – it goes further than the libdemvoice link, with a debunking from Scot goes POP! –
Re: poll putting Swinson ahead – it’s almost certainly a “comfort poll” taken by the LDs a couple of weeks ago.
James Kelly discusses it here:
link to scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk
It needs to be debunked, if you happen to be talking about it to anyone who might be swayed.
Just as a wee aside, doesn’t the promotion of tactical voting by party officials breach the terms of their party membership? Surely asking voters to vote AGAINST your own candidate is working against the interests of your own party?
If they wanted to be open about their plan they could simply have decided to field only one ‘unionist’ party candidate, couldn’t they?
Are they ashamed, embarrassed or worried they’re breaking rules?
Lib Dems are to sacrifice more devolved powers for Scotland in order to secure another Coalition with the Tories.
Yep, I had a letter addressed directly to me, from my local Labour loser in Dundee.
I have a Vote SNP sticker on my front door. so they aren’t hovering addresses.
I don’t think they have hacked SNP databases or anything like that, they will just be buying names and addresses from voters rolls or other sources, something that is quite legal.
You take Ed Miliband’s name off that tombstone and you would be hard pressed to tell who wrote it. Those pledges sound just like what the Conservatives are saying as well.
Yet again this “hard working families” is used. Are they not supposed to try and represent all families no matter what their circumstances may be?
I have said it before and I will say it again: New Labour and the Tories are two cheeks of the same bum. Come Friday here is hoping that arse is booted black and blue.
After all the brutal cuts Cameron and his cronies have made, and would continue to make, you would think that Labour would be miles ahead in the polls and yet they are not because people see no real difference between them. At the end of the day if people chose to vote yet again for these tired old parties and their morally bankrupt policies then they deserve everything they get.
As for the nasty letter if there are a few going around I am sure we will hear about it albeit not from the media. 🙁
O/T (a wee bit)
Do MP’s have a contract of employment?
If so, what are their working hours? Is it a Zero Hours Contract?
Just curious.
Aye, Vowhenge hits the spot!
If you look at the content of this tablet, there’s actually nothing that could be disproved in 5 years; it’s all vague promises of things getting a bit better. They obviously think it worked on the thick Scotch plebs, the English ones will swallow it.
Know what? They could be right.
If you need a wee smirk …
link to facebook.com
unchillfiltered says:
3 May, 2015 at 3:06 pm
Edstone is a massive misjudgement of “In the thick of it” proportions. Complete own goal. The mis-step that the Tories and their allies have been wating for. Still can’t really believe that professional media operatives have allowed this to happen -and it must have taken quite a while to organise. Miliband has thrown away England. It’s an absolute ridicule goldmine that will haunt him to the ‘grave’.
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It’s amazing. Number one social media trend in the UK.
A giant headstone.
How on earth did they not see the potential for ridicule ?
I don’t think the Tories could have asked for a better final week. Royal baby and nationwide VE day special on the BBC a couple of days before the vote to fill everyone with feelgood Britishness. And now this massive #EdStone screw-up.
One good thing is if the Tories get a majority, the SNP won’t get the blame – this election will now be remembered for a giant tombstone.
We still need as many SNP MP’s as possible to protect Scotland.
“NO, WE’RE NOT GOING TO PLAY FACKING VOW’ENGE!”
2015: A Debased Idiodyssey
Suggested pledge number 7 for the Edstone –
” No left turn unstoned.”
Anent this infiltration business, Will Podmore & Sensibledave are taking notes……..:)
Ed’s pledge to control immigration, what does that mean? More? Less, the same but in a very orderly queue? As a pledge it means nothing. I can’t see why he would need reminding that he hasn’t committed to much of anything.
scotspine says: 3 May, 2015 at 4:56 pm Hi Al-Stuart. How dare you malign all of Police Scotland in this way.
Scotspine, firstly I was NOT maligning your husband.
For one, I used to work as a police officer with Strathclyde Police, so I KNOW for a fact that there are GOOD and BAD police officers in the 8-force amalgamated Police Scotland. Indeed I have had the privilege of knowing some EXCEPTIONAL and highly commended police officers.
However it sticks in my craw when the current DISREPUTABLE POLICE SCOTLAND triage system tries to fob legitimate complaints of alleged lawbreaking away from being reported. ALL first point contacts are institutionally fobbed off. FACT. That needs to be remedied as it does a disservice on good police officers. Civilian complainants should not need to turn into Taggart and have to present Police Scotland with a completed case ready for the Procurators Fiscal before it is deigned to be processed.
When I EVENTUALLY managed to speak to a police constable at POLICE SCOTLAND – and it wasn’t easy – he tried a persistent, but lamentable sixth form debate club effort to make me direct reporting a breach of legal statute – carrying a fine at level 5 on the Standard Scale – to the Electoral Commission. You wouldn’t graduate from Tulliallan with that lamentable effort.
The fact of the matter, and it has now been elevated a couple of ranks, is the particular officer demonstrated evident bias and was determined to avoid doing his job. He didn’t even know the difference between a crime or an offence. He failed to read the FAKE letter fully before pontificating that I would have to be “stupid” to be taken in by it. He could not comprehend that it takes only 5% of less engaged or aware voters to be conned to impact on an election.
The constable also failed to understand the statute contained in the Representation of The Peoples Act, as amended.
With all due respect scotspine, I believe your husband IS one of the decent officers, but in all candour he will be able to impart the fact that any police service has officers below par.
No personal offence was meant towards your husband.
My issue is with a particular police constable who thinks the General Election this coming week is a joke. Do you think this General Election and alleged electoral fraud is a joke?
Or are you wanting a rerun of the Independence Referendum with dodgy ballot box counting and electoral fraud going on with the possibility of the police turning a blind eye?
Scotspine do you agree that the FAKE letter above, if proven to have been one of several hundred, is something that the police should just ignore? Especially as there is clear STATUTE making such action an offence in Scots Law?
Regards,
Alastair
Is there still time for Scotland’s Mount Rushmore:
Gordie, Magrit, Jimbo and Wee Dougie?
(Just as evidence for future generations that we really did live this way.)
There is, off the south coast of England, an even bigger rock which has been known as the EDDYSTONE Rock. Currently supporting an enormous lighthouse.
Nice coincidence perhaps.
@ Bobmack.
Really?
Al-Stuart’s assertion that all they are good for is eating donuts, fobbing people off and not adhering to the ethos of “without fear or favour”.
My husband has had knives pulled on him, been assaulted, entered burning buildings to pull folk out, recovered bodies from rivers, given first aid to victims of domestic assault. Not a superman, but someone who does a demanding job with consequences.
I’m not getting into a pissing competition over this, but sweeping statements like Al’s completely piss me off. I wonder what he does for a living?
Ed’s pledge to control immigration, what does that mean?
No doubt all the Brits abroad will also welcome all new and exciting Labour control of immigrants.
Wonder what the EU will say to the fcukwits when UKOK border check points go up again, as they scrap fundamental freedom to travel and work anywhere in the EU. Stuffed shirt Milliband threatened Scotland with armed checkpoint charlies at Carlisle too. Or is just this one carved in stone promise alone, a load of Labour rubbish?
If they had to balls to get a Tobin tax going but Balls and co will prostrate themselves to their City over lords all over again, just like Crash and the Flipper.
link to bbc.co.uk
“Yet Tobin taxes are still in place in some of the world’s fastest-growing financial centres – Hong Kong, Mumbai, Seoul, Johannesburg and Tapei – where they are said to collectively raise £12bn a year”
Both the Conservative and Labour party have laid the groundwork for a constitutional bear trap of their own making. The arithmetic is inescapable. In the event of a hung parliament they will either have to talk to other parties to form a government which carries the confidence of the house or declare for another election if they either refuse to do so or cannot find enough common ground with others.
Or in other words they need to grow up and start acting like they are capable of governing. Their rhetoric, their politics, their campaign strategy has been that of othering and societal division. They are the ones so determined to save the UK by pandering to votes in a handful of marginal seats. To do so they have alienated voters right across the rest of the UK and most especially Scotland.
Not exactly the acts of a caring, unifying, potential government is it? More the acts of self interested, power centric, establishment politicians. The acts of parties who wish to direct their electorate rather than govern on their behalf. Same old, same old.
Anyone read the rather odd piece by Iain Martin in the Telegraph. It comes across as a “you better not vote SNP otherwise the people in England will be angry”. Totally weird and not particularly convincing although I dare say a few Kippers might well throw their toys out the cot. Is that what the Telegraph is now reduced to? A mouth piece for the swivel of eyed.
Who wins the most ENGLISH seats is crucial.
Ed Miliband might be able to use the SNP and Plaid Cymru to give himself a UK majority but if Labour are still only the second largest party in England, then he will be seen as lacking democratic legitimacy.
Miliband can hardly say to the English: “Labour oppose an English parliament but we’re going to use Scottish and Welsh nationalists to impose our legislative agenda on England, even though you didn’t give us the mandate and can’t even vote for the SNP and PC”. The Labour Party would be crucified if it did that.
David Cameron will probably have the most English seats. His problem is legitimacy in Scotland. In the circumstances that he had the most seats I would expect him to make an audacious offer to the SNP.
I am SNP member, wife not. She gets personalised SLab leaflets and even last week a phone call from SLab, asking for her, only. Me, not a thing. Don’t even know where they got our phone number as not in the book, but they seem to know I am an SNP member, somehow.
I have received both letters and e-mails both from my local Labour MP and national begging letters for both money and support. I think these are a hangover from the referendum campaign where I’m sure I exchanged e-mails with local labour folks. If it’s not that it’s just simple trolling.
I’d suggest it is unlikely that Lab have hacked the SNP database or that they have been handed the data by an inside plant. Even at local branch level individual members do not have access to membership details. Indeed only elected branch officers have access to these details and then only for their individual branch.
Infiltration of the SNP database? Who knows – but we know what the Union is capable of – Frenchgate to give but one example.
I wonder what odds I’d get for the following post GE outcome – Salmond to enter Westmisnter with Cameron, Milliband, Clegg, Murphy and Farage losing their jobs? (If not seats in the case of Cameron and Milliband.) If that’s the case then I can imagine Eck’s wry smile – tee hee.
If he hasn’t already got a copy would it not be a good idea to send John Pilger a copy of The Dunoon Referendum Report?
@ Onwards and unchillfiltered:
Totally agree. Edstone just like a scene from The thick of it.
Complete and utter omnishambles of epic proportions. To quote a Tuckerism, ‘from bean to cup, he f**ks up’
Just waiting on the guy dressed as a giant chop to start appearing at his public appearances. 😀
So the red tory party have discovered an “eddystone”, this is very rare indeed, as it is formed by concentrated thickness and is normally found in a gravestone shape.
The rarity of an “eddystone” is due to the fact being a complete dunderheed in the quanity required to form the concentrated thickness is almost unknown.
Please treasure this rarity, as you may never see it or the red tory party again.
Stewart Glendinning at 7.10pm is absolutely right; only certain branch officials have access to lists of branch members, and even then only for their own branches.
For all those SNP members who have posted on here with concerns about whether the local Labour party have access to their details, can I urge you to contact your branch secretary or convenor and alert them to your concerns. At least then the party will be aware of possible issues and can look into them.
Another possibility is that you are simply not on their list, which could mean that you are not on the electoral roll (hopefully this is not the case!) but might equally be because their list is incorrect.
We find when we are knocking on doors that there are some houses which are simply not on our list. This should be because they are not on the electoral roll, but our lists are not always totally up to date – I don’t expect Labour’s lists are either.
It says a lot that the SNPout campaign has taken off when you’d *think* the Labour voters of Dumfries & the Lib Dem constituences would be more inclined to support the SNP – after all, don’t they want to stop the Tories and their Lib Dem enablers?
But apparently not.
Opperchancity knocks ha ha.
link to facebook.com
Nicola is looking a wee bit tired. Still playing a blinder though.
FFS, another Attack Nicola Sturgeon debate on 1 🙁
What, the ‘Scottish’ Labour Party is just a hollow Easter egg, without as much as a cellophane bag of mini-eggs inside?
Good metaphor, mind you!
Murphy tells Ruthie “how dare you call me a liar”
Hahahahaha
Murphy “how dare you call me a liar Ruth!” Good yin Jim.
Desperate hours!
It’s Comedy Central on the Leaders Debate right now.
Smurf and Davidson going at each other.
“How dare you call me a liar!” Ruth has annoyed Jimbo. LOL
scotspine says: 3 May, 2015 at 6:56 pm Al-Stuart’s assertion that all they are good for is eating donuts, fobbing people off and not adhering to the ethos of “without fear or favour”. My husband has had knives pulled on him, been assaulted, entered burning buildings to pull folk out, recovered bodies from rivers, given first aid to victims of domestic assault. Not a superman, but someone who does a demanding job with consequences.
Dear Scotspine, PLEASE read my polite post to you at 6.44pm above.
As for your dubious comment I wonder what he (myself) does for a living?
EXACTLY THE SAME AS YOUR HUSBAND. As a police officer, I too have dragged people from the sea – both alive and deceased. Rescued people from burning buildings. I have administered lifesaving procedure on a number of people who would not be here otherwise. Have the commendations to prove it, in spite of your words. As you seem to feel the need to have a competition, I, like your husband, have had knives pulled on me, disarmed criminals, gone to the aid of fellow officers being assaulted, had broken bottles within an inch of my eyesight, even been shot. SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT ASKING WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING?
Scotspine, unless YOU have served as a police officer, PLEASE don’t overdo the vicarious righteous indignation bit. It can backfire badly if you fail to think before having a good old rant, no matter how good you feel after pressing the “send” button.
Again, with all due respect, you have completely LOST sight of the point. Police Scotland do HAVE a TRIAGE system in place that INSTITUTIONALLY deflects legitimate complaints. Numerous police services have had inquiries into this sort of thing, especially when it impacts on police statistics being pauchled. The particular electoral and statute law breach regarding the FAKE and FRAUDULENT LETTER was repeatedly deflected by Police Scotland. The dubious cop couldn’t be bothered to click the link which gave a statement from WoS to the recipient indicating this letter was NOT a JOKE.
Scotspine, if you are someone who genuinely respects the law and democracy that should concern you far more than a misconceived slight on your husband. The evidence of electoral fraud is well worth a read…
link to archive.is
So PLEASE go have a long think about whether your husband’s employment is an issue on this article by the Rev Stuart Campbell, or if, perhaps there is a more serious matter than being thin-skinned. PERSON OR PERSONS AS YET UNKNOWN ARE SEEKING TO STEAL GLASGOW ELECTORAL SEATS FRAUDULENTLY. Unless you are wanting a dodgy election with a gerrymandered result, perhaps be a little less paranoid, and a bit more constructive? THANKYOU.
Regards,
Alastair
Just in from canvassing in East Renfrewshire – should be interesting ! last day tomorrow if anyone has time between 11 and 7. Heading out from Clarkeston office at 11.
Not sure if I can bear to watch the 3 scoundrels and the BBC shout at Nicola and interrupt her for an hour.
BBC attempting a last-ditch Murphyfest with their favoured son given free, uninterrupted rein in front of a remarkable amount of Labour supporters.
Aye, it’s the usual three against one yet again.
Robertkerr 4.30pm
What on earth do you mean. Here is Yasmin Alibhai Brown on precisely the same subject, to a parliamentary committee
Q398 Mr Prentice: Just two other points. You have both said in your own ways that the honours system is corrupt. You mentioned this on the Today programme. You told us about the named individual from Blackburn.
Ms Alibhai-Brown: No, I did not say he was corrupt. I just said we should be told why he was awarded a place in the Lords.
Q399 Mr Prentice: You were talking about henchmen and rewarding influence.
Ms Alibhai-Brown: No, no. I said it very clearly: maybe you should find out what were the reasons for Lord Patel, for example, ending up in the House of Lords. I have not given you any of the names I could have of henchmen.
It is exactly the same thing that Mohammed Sarwar is doing as noted by Rev. above. Anybody who thinks that due to political correctness we must not mention intimidation within our ethnic communities, is not actually helping those communities at all.
No interrupting agreement. That’s what Glenn started with. Who’s doing the interrupting Glenn?
It’s the Campbell and Murphy tag team folks.
Hi Stuart,
Please forgive me, but I need to quote the statement from Ruairidh Mason on this important FAKE letter thread for a certain Police Scotland Inspector, who may be afflicted with THE SAME inability to click on links as their junior rankers, and so they can see from the witness statement, this letter is NOT a joke, but a clear breach of the electoral law, and infracts other legislation as well.
By the way, Rev Stu., GOOD WORK with this article, it may well result in a rerun election if the Labour win the Glasgow seat by a small majority.
Best regards,
Alastair
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For Police Scotland Inspector: Statement from Ruairidh Mason…
“A couple of days ago, after recently signing up to become a proud member of the Scottish National Party, I received this letter deceitfully addressed from the SNP headquarters.
Before I go any further, I will nip the issue in the bud right now and say that the letter is fraudulent and in no way representative of the views of the SNP or anyone affiliated with them, but I’ll come back to that in due time.
I would urge you to read the second half of it in particular where it lazily attempts to sell the idea that a SNP/Labour coalition would not work and that, in fact, the SNP wish to form an alliance with the Conservative Party; it indeed goes on to actually suggest that I should vote for the Tories on May 7th as the SNP have sufficient support already in my constituency without any substance or reasoning. When I received this, I was understandably in an initial state of shock and disgust, yet it’ll take more than a copy and pasted picture of Big Nic and a phony signature to pull the proverbial wool over this wannabe Willy Wallace’s eyes.
So I immediately sought correspondence with the SNP, and low and behold I was swiftly met with a reply categorically denying the authenticity of the letter and that Mr Hamish McLeod is no more of a member of their Strategy and Futures department than the Boogeyman or Gandalf the Grey…”
FULL STATEMENT – POLICE SCOTLAND CLICK THIS LINK….
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Referendum referendum referendum! Fucking obsessed.
Did Jim Murphy just say that the Barnet formula was “Fud Murphy important?”
🙂
Rennie can’t answer a question without turning it into distribe against SNP.
Gampbell acting like a gestapo interrogator.
Fecking shameful.
jeez. Murphy coming over very passive-aggressive.
Scary – he looks dazed – he’s slurring his words.
Nicola is doing well. Loads of applause.
Ruth ” it is legitimate we just choose not to do a deal with youse!” OMG! What a nutter!
This is for our policey wingers
darlings chill xxx we don’t want our lovely lurkers getting the wrong idea.
Well done Nicola, she seems to be turning round what seemed to be quite a hostile audience at the start. Willie Rennie saying snp canvassers talking about 2nd referendum at doorsteps is a despicable lie.
This BBC ?Glenn Campbell fella is utterly useless.
What a disgrace . . Think I will make a cup of tea and catch up with my emails
Will someone let us knows how the debate goes
Never mind Ed saying no deals, we all know he’ll need SNP support after the 7th. A statement of sorts from Nicola saying that Ed is running the risk of losing any sort of SNP backup in his minority government if he continues to use this ” no deals ” strategy would be nice… Throw the cat amongst the pigeons !
Haven’t bothered with yet another leaders debate, I saw it was the BBC and that once again they have pitched it in Edinburgh.
WTF is going on with the audience questions? Biased as fuck.
Yet another shocker from the BBC. Not one single challenging question asked of Murphy.
Guess where the real ‘ red line’ lies for the Unionist parties? Devolution of broadcasting.
That’s the one thing they will die in a ditch to prevent.
Is there ah Doctor in da house,naw he,s to busy rubbishing the SNP on there housing policy , on TV how do they get on these debates awe the time.
Keep seeing the same faces that were in the audience the last time round, BBC screening is farcical, oh it’s finished, thank f*ck
What a biased audience in Edinburgh debate!
Nicola does look tired, I think, although she is always on point. I spoke briefly to my local SNP candidate on Thursday, and said to him he must be exhausted, and he said he was. The SNP branches are working really hard, so I feel if we don’t get what we want in terms of seats, it won’t be for lack of work!
Establishment last gasp attack. 3 against one on the stage and nothing but unionist ("Quizmaster" - Ed)s in the audience. Roll on Thursday FFS.
That guy in the blue shirt saying “it’s a disgrace” looked very familiar. Is it yon Edinburgh Uni better together activist? He was on a recent Rev Stu story.
That BBC debate was car crash TV at times.
Jim Murphy’s line about “A formula in Barnett” was pure comedy gold. In these debates he seems to just come out with utter nonsense. When he is not talking the usual New Labour party nonsense that is. I am probably being a bit harsh as nerves can make people say strange things!
As usual though with these debates Nicola Sturgeon came across as someone who speaks like a normal human being. She seems to go from strength to strength. Roll on Thursday!
Need to stop watching telly till after Thursday. My wife worries that the neighbours will be thinking I’m swearing at her.
Thank God that “DEBATE” is over. Nicola held her and SCOTLANDS ground well against the usual suspects 3 Unionist Party’s plus Glen Campbell B.B.C Unionist Coordinator!! No use complaining to B.B.C they always answer and say how well they have done to cover in such a fair and unbiased way (never believe them).
JoeMcg, Yep its the same guy, Scott Arthur I think, civil engineering lecturer or something like that. He was ranting on gms on Fri with Gary R about Neil Hay before Gary cut him off.