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Posted on August 31, 2021 by

Her Majesty’s Prisoner No. 157095, or Craig Murray as we still prefer to call him, is a fascinating piece of living evidence of the Kafkaesque country Scotland has become under the despotic rule of Nicola Sturgeon.

Craig has a number of serious medical conditions, one of which causes him frequent dizziness and fainting spells. To gauge their severity (because obviously it’s hard for Craig to judge, given that he’s dizzy and/or fainting at the time), his doctor gave him a device called a pulse oximeter. Depending on the readings from it after an attack, Craig’s life could be in danger and an ambulance should be called.

HMP Edinburgh, however, confiscated the device when he was taken into custody, on the grounds that it uses batteries and batteries could be used for some unspecified nefarious purpose in prison. (Presumably in the rare moments when Craig isn’t getting high from smoking drug-soaked books or running an illegal-postage-stamp empire.)

But because presumably even the Scottish prison authorities realise that it would look quite bad if a political prisoner like Craig died in jail, they did offer him an alternative.

As a civil rather than criminal prisoner – the only one in Saughton, in fact – one of the few privileges is that Craig has a single cell. But to get around the problem of his potentially dying because of the removal of his oximeter, the prison offered Craig a shared cell, on the basis that if he collapsed the other prisoner could call for help.

(We can only assume that HMP Edinburgh has a large number of medically-expert inmates with the ability to accurately judge someone’s blood oxygen level after a fainting fit without any measuring equipment and determine whether emergency intervention is required.)

In the meantime, of course, The Times is merrily serialising a grubby smear of a book which incredibly obviously commits contempt of court at least as serious as that for which Craig is incarcerated. On the test set out by Lady Dorrian – which is that just one person with pre-existing intimate knowledge of one of the accusers might be able to identify them as a complainer from something published in a newspaper or website – a minimum of three Times articles in the four days contain information which enables one or more of the accusers to be easily recognised by anyone who wants to.

But what gets Craig Murray an eight-month prison sentence gets “mainstream” Scottish “journalists” a lucrative book deal instead. We imagine it could get quite interesting if they do a signing tour where people are allowed to ask them questions.

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As ever, if you can spare a few minutes to write to Craig he very much appreciates your letters, gifts of books etc which help to fill the slow-moving 22.5 hours of every day that he’s locked in his cell.

His address is:

157095 C Murray
G3/34 HM Prison Edinburgh
33 Stenhouse Road
Edinburgh
EH11 3LN

Alternatively you can email him via the officially-sanctioned Email A Prisoner service. This costs 40p per message, but Craig can reply and video chats are even possible (although sending photo attachments is NOT allowed at HMP Edinburgh).

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    1. Alison Brown says:

      Unbloodybelievable!!

    2. Alex Browne says:

      Misread the 3rd last para, and thought that Clegg and Andrews were the new Fran and Anna.

    3. Lollysmum says:

      Can the Scottish prison service or judiciary get any worse or look even more stupid than we thought they were before this saga started.

      If Craig should die in prison there’s going to be one hell of a lawsuit heading their way or more than one I expect.

      They shame us all.

      Write to Craig if you can.

    4. Patsy Millar says:

      Every time we say it can’t get any worse, it does.

    5. oneliner says:

      Maybe Clegg’s book will identify the Daily Record leaker – always assuming that she (if it is a ‘she’) is identifiable.

    6. Jockanese Wind Talker says:

      “Can the Scottish prison service or judiciary get any worse or look even more stupid?”

      Let’s wait and see what happens in the case against Marion Millar today!

    7. ForgotMath says:

      Nearly every person in SPS care has a mobile phone. They’re not clockwork…

    8. wee monkey says:

      Even more bad news for sturgeon. No doubt she will be spurred on to “prove her worth” on the worlds stage…

      Greta Thunberg: Scotland ‘not a world leader on climate change’

      ‘World leading’

      The Scottish government has previously described its climate change legislation as “world leading.”

      It includes a target to reach net-zero emissions by 2045.

      The legislation was praised as “inspiring” by the UN’s climate chief Patricia Espinosa.

      Ministers say they recognise that every country needs to do more while the Scottish Greens say they agree that systemic change is necessary.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58387017

      —–

      I don’t remember being asked about all this during the election???

      Still snp1 & 2 and this is what you get…dictatorship.

    9. Republicofscotland says:

      The Times and its journalists are part of the establishment, and will not suffer any consequences as such. as for Craig Murray, and the removal of his very important oximeter, one can only suggest that its a very keen reading of prison rules, especially for a unwell civic prison.

      Between Marion Millar, Craig Murray and the constant smearing of Alex Salmond, Scotland has become an odious little tinpot state under the dictatorship of Sturgeon.

      Sturgeon can’t even defend her own party MSP’s and MP’s such as now not an MSP Joan McAlpine who received death threats, and dogs abuse, the latter from her own party colleagues, and Joanna Cherry whose also received the same as McAlpine.

    10. alan_b says:

      When I saw the Clegg book reported uncritically on The Guardian website yesterday, I wondered if it was a deliberate attempted distraction from Marion Millar’s court appearance this morning.

    11. Robert Graham says:

      This piece just highlights how fkn dumb and criminally stupid a lot of our fellow Scots really are I bet if you questioned most of the public they would in a few short answers reveal how deep the MSM has eroded their tiny brains and show how out of touch with reality they have become .

      Anyone would have no problem in taking over this country because there would be no resistance because people are so indoctrinated into doing as they are told by our propaganda producing MSM they might moan a bit but most will do exactly what they are told without question,

      Sturgeon could say as of Midnight tonight all red heads need to report local cop shop because they pose a threat to the community by having a high level of Covid present and because of their skin pigmentation makes them more susceptible to the plague and I bet most would conform and do as they are told it’s not people who are resisting all these soul crushing instructions passed under emergency legislation it’s the majority who are allowing governments to do exactly what they want , Wakey fkn Wakey people .

    12. Mist001 says:

      I don’t think the prison service or in fact, anything to do with ‘the State’ should be criticised publicly or in private mails to Craig Murray whilst he remains in jail. We all know how vindictive the ‘State’ and individuals in positions of power can be, so you don’t really want to give them the opportunity or a reason to make Craigs life any worse than it presently is.

      He’s in the jail, he is where he is, so just let it be and let him serve his time as comfortably as we can. Don’t go rocking any boats and risk making his life worse.

    13. wull says:

      I think I read somewhere that AS has reported the forthcoming Clegg and Anderson book, as serialised in The Sunday Times, to the Police. Anyone know anything about this? Did AS report the two of them,, and/or the Times, for publishing material that will make jigsaw identification of the protected witnesses possible? Not just possible, but no doubt much easier to do than it ever was by simply reading Craig M’s blog)?

      Is this AS’s way of showing support for CM? Thereby showing up the ill-will of the Prosecution Service for its selective prosecution of some, (and its abject failure to investigate others who may be much more culpable of the same supposed offence)?

      The undermining of people’s civil liberties, the apparent prosecution of political opponents, and even the slightest hint of politically motivated collusion between a government executive and the judiciary are always deeply disturbing and dangerous phenomena, no matter where they arise.

      Does Amnesty International still do the sterling work it always used to do on all such issues, everywhere in the world? If so, has anyone called them in? To have a look at what seems to be happening right here and now, under our very noses?

      The more it happens, the more it will keep happening, and it will become worse and worse, until the sleep-walking population eventually wakes up – too late – to discover itself bedded down in the quagmire in which it has acquiesced, and from which it will be unable to rise.

      Acquiescence = self-imposed chains and slavery.

      Independence means freedom. Above all from our own colluding and self-congratulating imposters, who seek to steal our country from us.

    14. chas says:

      Who is going to issue a direct challenge to the Supreme Leader and her acolytes?
      Anyone doing exactly that must realise that the full force of the police and the judiciary will be lined up against them with all that entails. Time, cost, worry, reputational loss and possible imprisonment!!
      I find it incredible that every SNP MSP and MP appears to fully support EVERYTHING the Supreme Leader does. Snouts in the trough springs to mind!

    15. panda paws says:

      “Let’s wait and see what happens in the case against Marion Millar today!”

      Case adjourned until 4th October to deliberate on legal matters relating to Human Rights law and ECHR.

    16. Ruby says:

      chas says:
      31 August, 2021 at 12:55 pm

      I find it incredible that every SNP MSP and MP appears to fully support EVERYTHING the Supreme Leader does. Snouts in the trough springs to mind!

      Reply

      You are nearly right but you have forgotten about the wonderful Joanna Cherry.

    17. Garavelli Princip says:

      “oneliner says:
      31 August, 2021 at 11:34 am
      Maybe Clegg’s book will identify the Daily Record leaker – always assuming that she (if it is a ‘she’) is identifiable.” I myself have a preferred candidate!

      Quite a lot of us have a fair idea who he/she is. There is a tiny pool of possible suspects. The matter was reported to the police (by AS) some time ago.

      I am willing to be that none of them has even been approached by the – let alone interviewed under caution.

      This is normal in a police state that makes selective prosecutions and quite happily holds political prisoners.

      Expect nothing to happen.

    18. Ruby says:

      It really is ‘SHITE BEING SCOTTISH’

    19. Garavelli Princip says:

      “I am willing to be that none of them has even been approached by the – let alone interviewed under caution.”

      Should read: I am willing to bet that none of them has even been approached by the police – let alone interviewed under caution.

      Bloody predictive text and my bad proof reading!

    20. Paul McRae says:

      James Doleman’s outrageous statements yesterday defy belief. He must feel that he’s protected to bandy about such defamatory comments so nonchalantly

    21. Ruby says:

      Paul McRae says:
      31 August, 2021 at 1:09 pm
      James Doleman’s outrageous statements yesterday defy belief.

      Reply
      Hi Paul I missed that. Do you have a link please?

      PS It really is ‘SHITE BEING SCOTTISH’

    22. Ruby says:

      Is this case supposed to be sub judice?

      Weird that The Herald article is open to comments
      Perhaps they have to gauge how successful they are being getting through to the morons.

      ‘IT’S SHITE BEING SCOTTISH’

    23. James Che. says:

      One day the Scottish people will say, we have had enough, of the corruption and bias.
      One day soon they will take the claim of right and use it, the right to self determination, end the treaty of the union and stick fingers up to the go slow deliberate stalling of waiting for a referendum or plebiscite that never appears.

      That day is not faraway.

      The more independence supporters and ordinary citizens are suppressed. And The use of the hate crime bill is used to extraordinary lengths on its citizens,
      It eventually will be realised they never voted in the election for a coalition green/ Snp government,
      Or gender issues imposed on young children,
      They will want to dearly protect their children,
      And nor did they vote for their women and daughters to become second class people like in foreign countries.
      It will be the last straw one day, and there is no solution for Andy Ellis or hatuey and others whom are trying exceptionally hard to divert us from approaching this legal method for fear of losing their cash cow, and war depo, Scotland.

    24. Dave Albiston says:

      Just as well Craig doesn’t have a pacemaker. They’d have that off him as well.

    25. chas says:

      James Che

      The Scottish people are too thick and gullible to do anything that you say.
      The evidence is staring you in the face!

    26. Republicofscotland says:

      So the BBC is not happy that Russia has expelled for good one of their journalists in Sarah Rainsford, the BBC whined and moaned about it in a lunchtime news article, of course they BBC briefly mentioned that the UK threw out two Russian journalists prior to Rainsford’s expulsion, the hypocrisy from the BBC is astonishing as usual.

      Of course it goes without saying that the BBC is an enemy of Scotland, and the main propaganda arm of the this rancid union.

    27. chas says:

      RoS

      The BBC allowed the Supreme Leader to make a daily political broadcast for months.
      I agree that the BBC is anti Scotland but it is pro SNP………
      in my eyes!

    28. Astonished says:

      Horrific – when their fall comes. I will rejoice.

    29. Ottomanboi says:

      SHE is keeping Scotland SAFE.
      (We are such a set of ingrates)
      All Praise to the Great, the Wonderful, the Best Ever since the sliced pan loaf,
      Mother of the Nation.
      May SHE live one thousand years!
      Kim Jong-un sends his warmest regards.
      Mwa! Mwa! Mwa!

    30. tridentitycrisis says:

      Dictatorship? Really? With such inflation of language there’s not much left to describe or differentiate genuine despotic states such as Saudi Arabia and Burma. Surely it’s the Prison Service that’s to blame for this appalling treatment of Craig. I hardly think Nicola Sturgeon is micro-managing its petty rule enforcement.

    31. David Ferguson says:

      Seriously, anyone who finds anything in the Times articles, the Herald, or Smegma’s book that allows them to jigsaw-identify an Alphabetty should file a formal complaint to the police. If enough people do that they can’t just ignore it.

    32. Paul McRae says:

      @Ruby

      Hi Ruby

      Here’s one:

      https://twitter.com/jamesdoleman/status/1432388619696807939

      There’s another wretched one that he appears to have deleted, but I think I took a screenshot of it, so I’ll have a look

    33. James Che. says:

      Chas.

      I don’t believe the Scottish people are thick at all,
      Some of the best science, art, literature, and architecture and inventions of the world still used today came from the people of Scotland,

      The confusion comes from the fact that most people in Scotland were colonised and taught fear, bred and fed fear of themselves over hundreds of years.
      That does not make them gullible either.

      dear ole Blighty has had corrupt politicians longer than we have had a devolved government that has recently gone corrupt.

      No I would suggest the Scottish people are mainly patient people, slow to antagonise or rock the boat.
      Not natural warmongers,
      From what I have seen in the last sixty odd years is a nation that is waking up, a nation learning just how valuable they have been to down south, and how undervalued the Scots themselves have been by a goverment down south that fears collapse of the last vestiges of the old empire should Scotland leave.

    34. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “I don’t think the prison service or in fact, anything to do with ‘the State’ should be criticised publicly or in private mails to Craig Murray whilst he remains in jail. We all know how vindictive the ‘State’ and individuals in positions of power can be, so you don’t really want to give them the opportunity or a reason to make Craigs life any worse than it presently is.

      He’s in the jail, he is where he is, so just let it be and let him serve his time as comfortably as we can. Don’t go rocking any boats and risk making his life worse.”

      Jesus, do you seriously think I’m printing anything Craig hasn’t asked me to print?

    35. John Jones says:

      I like how everyone is talking about Scotland being a banana republic without the bananas,(it’s just looking that way)
      We all know what happens in those places when the public waken up,
      looking forward to seeing some heads rolling.

    36. willie says:

      Its an interesting concept. The state can be as vindictive as possible, ruining someone’s life, taking their freedom or even actually causing them to die.

      That is exactly what started the mayhem of response killings in the cycle of fun that was Northern Ireland that was the euphemistically described ” Troubles ”

      Maybe its the cycle of life and death that the British inculcate wherever they have had empire. One thing though is that some of these vicious politicos would not dare attempt the stunts that they attempt if the recipients broke the rules too.

      They pull a knife, you pull a gun. They send one of yours to the hospital, you send one of there’s to the morgue.

      We may smile at these cinematic words from Sean Connery but when playing by the rules does not work, where the justice system is rotten, things do, as the world shows repeatedly, go badly wrong.

      And to quote another statement, we were unlucky this time, but she needs to be lucky all the time.

      Let us hope we never ever go down that road. The failure of a rule of law replaced by the law of the jungle.

    37. chas says:

      James Che

      Stop living in the past. It has gone.

      Educational standards are dropping like a stone, deaths from drug and alcohol abuse rocket. Billions are squandered on, hospitals, ferries, dubious court cases. The list goes on and on.
      The central theme running through all is the current SNP Government, now bolstered by the loons in the Green Party.
      The Scottish electorate continue to vote the SNP into Government yet you insist we are not gullible and you continue to blame the English for all out woes!!
      It will only get worse until the Murrell’s and their acolytes are removed.

    38. Republicofscotland says:

      “I agree that the BBC is anti Scotland but it is pro SNP………
      in my eyes!”

      Chas.

      Not pro-SNP, but anti-Scottish independence more like. It certainly wasn’t pro-SNP when Salmond was SNP leader and FM.

    39. Republicofscotland says:

      Have you seen Patrick Harvey and Lorna Slater’s new ministerial titles yet.

      Harvey is now, Minister for Zero Carbon Buildings, Active Travel and Tenants’ Rights.

      Slater is now, Minister for Green Skills, Circular Economy and Biodiversity.

      Sturgeon creates (at the taxpayers expense) ministerial posts, like the banks create money on a computer screen.

    40. Ruby says:

      Oh look Whatshisname for River City is leaving Scotland because of his ‘Ligamentophobia’.

      He searching for a ribbon free place where he can feel safe!

      https://archive.is/lAYO0

    41. Breeks says:

      I’m not a doctor, but if this pulse oxiometer is prescribed medication, it seems extraordinary that a Prison can remove it from / deny it to a person in their custody. The liability upon them if something tragic happens must be immense, unless they are excused such liability.

      This sounds like it comes from an era when the Red Cross were visiting concentration camps to check if they were getting their food parcels rather than 21st Century Scotland, where a mini electronic device can monitor a health condition and warn of imminent distress.

      I just don’t know enough to be confused or horrified. And as for a cell mate to look after you, I don’t know whether this means a minor inconvenience, or Craig Murray kept alive in a cave Tony Stark style with a miniature arc reactor in his chest as he quietly builds himself an Ironman Suit in the Prison workshop.

    42. Sarlat La Canède says:

      Ruby says:
      31 August, 2021 at 1:20 pm

      ‘IT’S SHITE BEING SCOTTISH’

      No, no, nonono, don’t be ‘scottish be SCOTS
      Qué ?

    43. Sarlat La Canède says:

      Dangnabbit ! I Missed out the “Oh!” that was supposed to go with the K ! Aaarrrgghh !It’s probably (hahaha) the whisky ! (An Armorik ingle malt, the label is copper coloured, they have 4 colours, grey-cheap but very nice, copper-mmmmm, blue-oh yes but rarely present in Super-U, red-tourbé, peaty, don’t like it, also not giving the ingleesh any money by buying their stolen waters of life !!

    44. James Che. says:

      Chas.
      Wether you or I like it or not,
      I was born in England, but that does not make me blind.

      The past, made the present, and the present makes our future.
      They are not separate, otherwise Scotland and England would not be in a dodgy union today from the past.

      Perhaps you’re right, we should delete the past.

    45. Breeks says:

      And who’d have thought I’d ever be standing up to defend the HM Prison Service, but it might be relevant to know a small battery and wee bit silver paper from a stick of chewing gum is enough to start a fire… so there could be logic to the Prison’s decision… and I’m saying that as someone 100% on Craig Murray’s side.

      Maybe it’s not a petty cruelty, but a strategy in place to prevent fires being lit and mattresses set on fire. Just sayin’…..

    46. Gordon Hastie says:

      Of course Craig can’t be given books – they have to be donated to the library. Then he can borrow them. Probably best to let Craig know which books you’re donating, otherwise he won’t know they’re waiting for him. Truly Kafkaesque.

    47. Ruby says:

      Sarlat La Canède says:
      31 August, 2021 at 4:26 pm
      Ruby says:
      31 August, 2021 at 1:20 pm

      ‘IT’S SHITE BEING SCOTTISH’

      No, no, nonono, don’t be ‘scottish be SCOTS
      Qué ?

      Reply
      I’ve decided to identify as French as
      ‘IT’S SHITE BEING SCOTTISH’

      Je ne suis pas bien dans ma peau ecossaise!

      I’m in the wrong body. ‘Je suis francaise.’

      I’m off to the attic to dig out my Assimil books.
      I’ll need to watch which new phrases I learn.
      ‘My tailor is rich’ should be OK but although way back last century it was fine to laugh and learn phrases like ‘my sister is not a boy’ it could be risky these days.

      Vive la France! Vive la revolucion!

      How do you say ‘It’s shite being Scottish in French.’

      Found this translation from Trainspotting:

      Vous êtes pas fier d’être écossais ?
      Mais c’est une punition d’être écossais. On est les plus nuls des plus nuls. Le rebu de l’humanité. Le peuple écossais c’est de la merde la plus asservi, la plus pitoyable qui n’ait jamais été chié depuis que la terre existe.

      “Mais c’est une punition d’être écossaise”
      That seems a bit too polite
      ‘C’est de la merde d’être écossaise’
      Anything suggestions for something a bit stronger more sweary!

      ‘C’est de la fuckin’ merde d’être écossaise’

      Do you use the word fuckin’ en France?

    48. Ruby says:

      Putain! c’est de la merde d’être écossaise’

    49. Captain Yossarian says:

      Back in the early days of the Wild West, if there was a trail in say the Kansas City Courthouse or the Dodge City Courthouse, the trail judge wouldn’t care too much about law or legal precedent or anything like that. It was all about the trial judge and the way he saw the world. Maybe Scotland is drifting back to these days with Lady Dorian, Mulholland, Wolffe and all of the other legal spoofs that surround us these days. There is definitely something systemically wrong there. When was a redactor pen an essential tool of the lawmaker? “All of my law officers are honest” – I think spoof number 3 said that a few months back, didn’t he….in the Holyrood nest of thieves.

      Maybe Andrews and Clegg are just daring one of these spoofs to make a move? I’ll bet they won’t make a move. If they do, then The Times will tear our law officers to shreds this time around and good luck to them.

      In the meantime, Craig Murray is languishing needlessly and forgotten in jail.

    50. Mist001 says:

      @ Rev. Stuart Campbell:

      “Jesus, do you seriously think I’m printing anything Craig hasn’t asked me to print?”

      Well, I did credit you with writing on your own initiative but if that’s the case and Craig Murray finds life getting more difficult inside, then he only has himself to blame.

      No more fucking sympathy from me. He got himself in the jail and now he’s there, he doesn’t like the rules.

      Well, tough shit.

    51. Nally Anders says:

      Ruby @4.15
      Heresay only I suppose, but what I was told (outside the court) today was that the third rate actor was being ‘written out’ of the soap.
      In other words he has no option but to leave Scotland to obtain other acting jobs.
      Best guess London where they’ve no clue what an attention seeking, disruptive influence he is.
      Whatever, good luck and good riddance.

    52. Ruby says:

      Are prisoners banned from wearing glasses?

      Just asking ‘cos I know how to start a fire with a pair of glasses, a little bit of sunshine & a piece of paper.

      Drumsticks, pencils & wooden bed legs also banned?

      I never managed the ‘rubbing two stick together trick’ but then I didn’t have 22 hours to spend rubbing my pencils together.

    53. Sarlat La Canède says:

      Ruby, Ô Ruby !
      C’étions point la merde d’être écossaise ! C’est la merde d’être assoupi, écrasé, trahis par un pays de, euh, oui, de merde !
      Aux armes, citoyens ! La vie et les fromages sont beaux ! Aux poteaux les traitres et les vendus !
      Aux armes, citoyens !

    54. Ruby says:

      Nally Anders says:
      31 August, 2021 at 5:36 pm
      Ruby @4.15
      Heresay only I suppose, but what I was told (outside the court) today was that the third rate actor was being ‘written out’ of the soap.

      Reply
      I can believe that. What a plonker!

      I’m really surprised that the Rev got himself involved with Mist and he didn’t even swear. Is this retirement malarky making him soft?

    55. robbo says:

      Mist001 says:
      31 August, 2021 at 5:35 pm
      @ Rev. Stuart Campbell:

      “Jesus, do you seriously think I’m printing anything Craig hasn’t asked me to print?”

      Well, I did credit you with writing on your own initiative but if that’s the case and Craig Murray finds life getting more difficult inside, then he only has himself to blame.

      No more fucking sympathy from me. He got himself in the jail and now he’s there, he doesn’t like the rules.

      Well, tough shit.

      ————-

      What a tit you are.

    56. Ruby says:

      MIST is more of a cunt than a sweeping brush!

      Transition to ‘Francaise’ going well!

      Slight worry about She/Her finding me attractive. I understand she really likes ‘french kissing’ et ‘Le Baguette’.

    57. holymacmoses says:

      Mist001 says:
      31 August, 2021 at 5:35 pm
      @ Rev. Stuart Campbell:

      “Jesus, do you seriously think I’m printing anything Craig hasn’t asked me to print?”

      Well, I did credit you with writing on your own initiative but if that’s the case and Craig Murray finds life getting more difficult inside, then he only has himself to blame.

      No more fucking sympathy from me. He got himself in the jail and now he’s there, he doesn’t like the rules.

      Well, tough shit.

      I’m assuming that you felt the necessity to write that because you were unable to put Wings in his place.
      A little fit of pique:-)

    58. Alf Baird says:

      Republicofscotland @ 3:57 pm

      “the BBC is anti Scotland but it is pro SNP”

      Which tells us all we need to know about the SNP.

    59. Robert Dickson says:

      Mist001

      You sir…..are a cunt

    60. Mac says:

      “…by the respected journalists David Clegg and Kieran Andrews…”

      lol. You what?

      That must mean ‘respected’ in the same way as the ‘respected’ Herald newspaper.

      As in ‘would not piss on any of them if they were ablaze’.

    61. Alf Baird says:

      James Che. @ 4:38 pm

      “Perhaps you’re right, we should delete the past.”

      Scots don’t have that choice; our past is deleted for us and our future is decided for us, according to Albert Memmi:

      “The most serious blow suffered by the colonized is being removed from history. Colonization usurps any free role in either war or peace, every decision contributing to his destiny and that of the world, and all cultural and social responsibility. The colonized feels neither responsible nor guilty nor skeptical, for he is out of the game. He is in no way a subject of history any more. He has forgotten how to participate actively in history and no longer asks to do so.”

    62. mike cassidy says:

      If batteries are such a big danger in prisons

      How do the prisoners vape in those no-smoking environments?

      Are they rubbing two boyscouts together?

      January 2019

      With 7,500 e cig starter kits distributed to inmates, the estimated cost sits somewhere towards the initially projected £150,000. The starter kit contains all the essentials for a smoker to make the switch to vaping including; a rechargeable battery, charger and a pack of three flavoured e liquids. From April inmates will be expected to pay for their own devices and e liquids.

      https://archive.is/0ImpI

    63. Republicofscotland says:

      Alf @6.30pm.

      Yes Alf BBC wasn’t SNP friendly when Salmond was leader and FM, now that Sturgeon is at the helm, the unionist media more amicable towards Sturgeon.

      Its as if they know that she has no intentions of breaking up the union.

    64. Mac says:

      Do they still have devices in prison (kettles I think they are called) to boil water with heaps of sugar dissolved in it to literally melt someone’s face off when thrown on them?

      Gosh I am really worried about this device Craig has to help save his life.

      There must be a couple of CR 2032 batteries in there or worse AAA’s. Hooooly fuck in the wrong hands they could be turned into nuclear weapons… just like Iran did.

    65. Republicofscotland says:

      Marion Millar made no plea today at the Sheriff court in Glasgow today, Millar’s lawyer Joanna Cherry, said that Ms Millar only saw the Crowns charges against her ten minutes before her court appearance.

      A large crowd gathered outside the court house in support for Ms Millar.

      Ms Millar’s charges can be found here.

      https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/marion-millar-scots-woman-appears-in-court-accused-of-sending-homophobic-and-transphobic-tweets/ar-AANWELO?ocid=uxbndlbing

    66. Rev. Stuart Campbell says:

      “No more fucking sympathy from me. He got himself in the jail and now he’s there, he doesn’t like the rules.”

      To be honest that’s such an astonishingly cunty attitude I’m not even bothering with a warning.

    67. Republicofscotland says:

      Mist001 @5.35pm.

      Mist.

      That’s one of most stupidest comments I’ve read in a while, Craig Murray has lost his liberty to bring us the machinations and dirty dealings of the Scottish government and the COPFS, and instead of thanking the man, who still has a young family and is in poor health, you go on the attack and blame him for ending up in prison.

      If I were you I’d quickly apologise, and maybe hop over to Craig’s blog and leave a small donation, for putting your foot in it.

    68. Glenn Boyd says:

      Get that stupid cunt “Mist” to fuck! We don’t need shitheads like you on here – so off to MSM with you.

    69. sarah says:

      Thank goodness – Mist has never been a constructive contributor and his remark tonight was completely beyond the pale.

    70. James Che. says:

      Alf Baird.

      When I said delete the past, I meant the treaty of the union.

      I am well aware of how our education system in Scotland deletes our past.
      My father returned to Scotland when I was 1 year old.

      All my schooling was in Scotland and I have now lived here for sixty four years.
      My brothers and sisters were born in Scotland.
      My father and mother met during ww2 and married in Edinburgh.

      I am the middle child,

      I can definitely say I was not born the wrong side of the blanket, but I was born the wrong side of the border, 🙂

    71. James Che. says:

      Mist001.

      I cannot believe you said what you did, that was awful,

      Have you no empathy in you’re heart, Craig Murray is in jail for something the judge thought might have happened
      rather than something he actually did.

    72. Fred says:

      Breeks @4.25 pm

      Breeks, it’s now NHS who are in overall charge of healthcare within SPS (another bright SNP decision that’s certainly cost the taxpayer far more than had they left it alone).
      I’m not going to get into whether i think this device is essential to keeping someone alive – i don’t know anything about it tbh; however, if a prisoner isn’t permitted a medical device in use that decision will almost certainly have came from a consultation with NHS as to its necessity, and it’s very likely the alternative idea (doubling up the cell as a safeguard) will have been decided by them also.
      SPS would not make a medical decision like that on its own and without assurance from NHS.
      There are many prisoners currently within the system who rely on electronic medical aids and have them in use in their cells e.g ventilators for COPD are not uncommon; however, they’ve all been sanctioned and deemed necessary by NHS before being issued.

      Any prisoner unhappy with the medical treatment they receive in prison have the same right of complaint as those of us on the outside – a standard NHS complaint form to which they’re entitled to receive an answer and explanation.

    73. Pixywine says:

      I know that in the past, I can mainly speak from experience in HMP Shotts, some prisoners were allowed to do some of their ” time” in the infirmary wing I don’t know if that can be arranged in Staughton. Over to you Governor 1.

    74. Pixywine says:

      In the Infirmary a prisoners health can be more closely monitored by staff. Civil prisoners I suspect are not easy to place in a a prison system because they are so rare. I think Tommy Sheridan may have been the last civil prisoner in Scotland during the poll Tax revolts here.

    75. ian murray says:

      A pulse oximeter measures how well oxygen is moving through the body. It is measured at the finger tips by a wee thing that you clip into your finger it shines an infra red light through the nail bed and by measuring the resistance to the red light it can tell how well oxygen has saturated through the body.
      97% is the optimum number.
      If Craigs saturation numbers go down presumably an alarm goes off but can it be heard ? Do they have Oxygen and resus equipment nearby if needed ?
      It is the hearts job to pump oxygenated blood to all parts of the body, if not sat numbers will drop and probably craig too

    76. Wee Crabbit Bas says:

      Did he take them up on their offer of a cellmate Samaritan?

    77. ronald anderson says:

      Iv changed phones and lost a lot of contacts so if you have my moby number please text your name and phone number Thanks Folks

    78. David Caledonia says:

      There was a young guy that I new that was caught in a stolen car a few years ago, he could not drive, the guy that stole the car came to his house, and he was silly enough to get into the stolen car.
      When they where caught the police told the guy that could not drive to confess to stealing a car that they had not caught anyone for, and he did as they said they would go easy on him if he did that.
      So, there you have it, a person who could not drive being convicted of stealing a car that he did not even know had been stolen in the first place.
      That and other reasons are why I never trust the police, I have seen to much corruption and dodgy deals to ever have anything to do with any of them.
      I would say about 30 years ago I would have gone to help any copper that was being attacked, now, No Chance Whatsoever as I have been at the recieving end of their lies.
      Alex Belfield on youtube has exposed them, what they tried to do to that man was an absolute disgrace and alex has beaten them and will have his day in court.
      I beat them to as they tried to do the same to me on at least twice in the last 5 years.
      The police liars in my cases got away with what they tried to do as I had no proof, their word against mine, no evidence was produced by the liars and the cases where thrown out of court as I new they would be, respect the police, I would not trust any of them to be honest about anything

    79. Hugh Jarse says:

      Is Alpaca the new squirrel?

      Radio Shortbreads drive time news got in such a fluster over the Miller case!
      Comedy gold, they seemed lost as to how to spin it.
      Female rights didn’t feature highly,or indeed at all.

      Scotland’s Shame.

    80. velofello says:

      mistoo1 won’t be missed Rev.

      Breeks, are you embarrassed by your battery and chewing silver paper arson post?

      Ruby nails it, reading glasses and a wee bit of sunlight will do the job.

      Once our middle-class population have chosen and signed up for their personal lease- electric cars maybe they will then pay attention to politics/Brexit/self ID/ school sex education – don’t tell Mum, and whatever.

      Welcome to the unelected Scottish government ministers, Slater and Harvie. No room for Annie Wells?

      Advisors?Consultants? I could have accepted that,but unelected individuals as”Ministers with portfolio” And the circular economy…is what exactly?

    81. John Cleary says:

      Captain Yossarian says:
      31 August, 2021 at 5:29 pm

      “All of my law officers are honest” – I think spoof number 3 said that a few months back, didn’t he….in the Holyrood nest of thieves.

      Captain, they are honest. They promised to do a thing. Now they do that thing. How is that anything but honest?

    82. David Caledonia says:

      Aye thats correct sir, but its as if economically the money is not there, and the will of the people is incumbent on a sizable chunk of erudite conversation was involved

    83. David Caledonia says:

      Aye thats correct sir, but its as if economically the money is not there, and the will of the people is incumbent on a sizable chunk of erudite conversation being involved

    84. David Caledonia says:

      I agree, but we must be careful to not conjure up false hopes as that could instigate a much bigger and complicated problem in the way the system reacts to the fundementals of the new challenge
      Maybe in the future it would be possible to do it, but I think its pure conjecture at this moment in time

    85. Derek says:

      “C’est un con d’etre Ecossais”?

      Sorry about the lack of accents…

    86. Breeks says:

      velofello says:
      31 August, 2021 at 10:38 pm
      mistoo1 won’t be missed Rev.

      Breeks, are you embarrassed by your battery and chewing silver paper arson post?

      No I’m not. I’m not implying Craig Murray would set fire to his mattress, but maybe, I don’t know, if prisoners are routinely denied batteries, then Craig having access to batteries might make him a target for assault by someone who’s in prison for good reason. That could be anything from arson to kleptomania, or simply petty jealousy.

      All I meant was that perhaps the Prison has a rational reason for doing this rather than petty nastiness.

      I’ve never been in prison, but I have had occasion to work in one as as external contractor, and I got the distinct impression that life in prison is an intense game of cat and mouse between prison officers and inmates. You (they) couldn’t let your guard down for a moment. The prison officers were cynical and suspicious of everything the inmates did, and vice versa. It is not a “normal” environment, and it left a lasting impression me that I really didn’t want to be there, either as a prisoner or a prison officer, nor indeed as an external contractor.

    87. Captain Yossarian says:

      @John Cleary – It’s all explained in the lawyer’s ‘Code of Ethics’. Isn’t it great to see journalists taking the piss out of them. First it was Frazer Nelson of The Spectator and now it’s Clegg and Andrews.

    88. President Xiden says:

      Remember when one of the arguments for Scottish independence was that we never got the Government we voted for, well now we’ve got Patrick Harvey.

    89. Robert Louis says:

      Genuinely hard to fathom the rank stupidity and vindictiveness on show by the Scottish prison service. Everybody and their granny, and every single prison employee knows with absolute certainty that Craig Murray is a threat to nobody, and is NOT about to ‘do a runner’.

      To remove an important medical device, which Craig NEEDS (the NHS doesn’t give them out for ‘fun’), is utter stupidity. Batteries, FFS???? Batteries!! Get a freaking grip SPS. Seriously what do you think he’ll do, build a Saturn five rocket or thermonuclear device to ‘take over the world’, or something.

    90. holymacmoses says:

      It would be in everyone’s best interests for Craig to get a personal alarm , if nothing else.

    91. holymacmoses says:

      I mean an NHS personal alarm, which as we all know is handed out as standard to vulnerable people who may need immediate help

    92. Dan says:

      @ Robert Louis

      The prison heard that Craig has the seemingly unique skills to create a Jigsaw.
      They are therefore concerned that he may manage to create another Jigsaw, fit those batteries to power to it, and then use it to cut a hole in the prison cell wall to facilitate an escape.

      #PrisonBreak

    93. Dan says:

      Seeing as ministerial appointments are subject to formal confirmation and acceptance by oor queen, and the Scottish Greens say they are for getting rid of the monarchy…
      Should oor Lizzy just tell em’ to get tae?
      It’s unlikely a rat of sound mind would consent to a visit from Rentokil.

    94. Dan says:

      Soz for she / her content. She’s a democrat don’t you ken…

      I believe in democracy, I believe in the right of the Scottish people to decide their own future…

      https://twitter.com/LeePirie/status/1432702207531552783

      Coz y’all recall those referendums where us Scots actually got the clear specific democratic opportunity to express oor views on GRA and Hate Crime Act, seeing as those policies have far reaching implications for our Scottish society.

    95. Dan says:

      Aye, she / her is such a democrat she even restricted her own Party members from having any influence, nevermind wider Scottish society.

      https://wingsoverscotland.com/how-to-make-a-coup/

    96. Ruby says:

      Are you missing Mist? Do you think the Rev has been unfair opening the trap door marked ‘fuck right off’ without giving him any warning? 🙂

      Do you want to keep in touch & show your support? His ‘head office’ is in Edinburgh. Clearburn Crescent I think that’s Prestonfield. Flat 3 at number 26.

      His name is Michael Stimson

      https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/SC675679

      You could support him by buying some of his merchandise.
      He sells ‘unofficial’ David Bowie memorabilia
      on Amazon

      https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Michael-Stimson/dp/B08JJVXBCL

      Oooh! Scary Monsters & Super Creeps

    97. Republicofscotland says:

      Dan @9.07am

      Yip and the National newspaper has another one to add to its never ending collection.

      https://twitter.com/ScotNational/status/1432948081759117314/photo/1

    98. Republicofscotland says:

      Meanwhile under the guidance of Humza Yousaf, waiting times at A&E have skyrocketed the four hours waiting time limit was only met at 75.1% there’s also been a increase of patients waiting for all types of scans.

      Yousaf rolled out the usual BS excuse, that Scotland’s A&E is out performing the other A&E’s on these islands. Lets not forget the 270,000 cancelled/postponed operations that have still to be done.

    99. Ruby says:

      Bloody smoke alarm has gone off again! I’ll need to stop this dusting malarky & making toast is a definite no no.

      It’s so loud they can probably hear it way out in Saughton.

      Might be worth the ‘smoke alarm company’ getting in touch with ‘HM prisons’ they could probably talk them into buying a few smoke alarms.

    100. Republicofscotland says:

      We’ll see how long this “agreement” between the Greens and the SNP lasts, as the Greens will now not be allowed to ask a question at FMQ’s. The greens will also not be automatically called to speak at the start and close of debates.

      The Greens Short Money (Public funds available to political parties) will also be reduced by over £15k, now that Patrick Harvey and Lorna Slater are ministers.

      No doubt any shortfall for the Greens will be made up by other means.

    101. Humza`s twitter pronoun is Me/Me.

    102. Ruby says:

      Scot Finlayson says:
      1 September, 2021 at 9:51 am
      Humza`s twitter pronoun is Me/Me.

      Reply

      Check again Scot I think it’s Me/Me.Muslim.

    103. Republicofscotland says:

      So the Republic of Ireland’s population has now caught up with Scotland’s both countries have a similar dilemma with an aging population, however Ireland has the levers of immigration at hand and is part of the EU, Scotland has neither.

      Apparently the Scottish government recognises this, and wants to make Scotland a welcoming country, even though its the Home office that decides who stays in Scotland and who doesn’t.

      So the Scottish government wants to create a more stable picture of Scotland to attract folk to it by, projecting the image that Scotland is a family friendly nation, a healthy living society, and that its an attractive and welcoming country.

      I really don’t know where to start on those points.

    104. holymacmoses says:

      Ruby says:
      1 September, 2021 at 9:59 am
      Scot Finlayson says:
      1 September, 2021 at 9:51 am
      Humza`s twitter pronoun is Me/Me.

      Reply

      Check again Scot I think it’s Me/Me.Muslim.

      Since when did the word Muslim become a personal pronoun?

    105. Aunty Flo says:

      Ruby 1 September @ 9.34 am

      I know the guy’s comments were objectionable, but what you did there was very, very nasty.

      And probably illegal.

      Shame on you.

    106. Ruby says:

      Republicofscotland says:
      1 September, 2021 at 10:09 am

      I really don’t know where to start on those points.

      Reply
      Might be best to switch off from anything being said by the SG!

      There is not a single member of the SG that I have any respect for. I don’t pay any attention to what they say. It’s all shite!

      ‘It’s shite being Scottish’

      I’ve just been reading a comment on Twitter from a disillusioned SNP member. He said he kept his SNP car sticker hoping things would change however now he has decided to remove it and join Alba.

      Alba car stickers have been available for a long time.

      Can we expect to hear complaints about the Alba Party hijacking our car sticker? 🙂

    107. Ruby says:

      Aunty Flo says:
      1 September, 2021 at 10:24 am
      Ruby 1 September @ 9.34 am

      I know the guy’s comments were objectionable, but what you did there was very, very nasty.

      And probably illegal.

      Shame on you.

      Reply

      Are you kiddin’ Aunty Flo? I was just offering the guy support.

      Why would it be illegal Aunty Flo?

    108. Mac says:

      lol. Naughty Ruby!

      Jeezo that appears to be a residential address for that company. Just had a look on google street view.

      I think I’d rather be in Saughtan with Craig Murray!

    109. Ruby says:

      OK I’m going to be good for the rest of the day just after I enquire why anyone would use the moniker Aunty Flo?

      Shame on you Aunty Flo!

    110. Stuart MacKay says:

      Ruby,

      A lot of your posts are now “high spirited” to say the least. In this thread you’ve:

      1. Alluded the First Minister’s “personal preferences”
      2. Taken a swing at Yousaf’s ethnicity
      3. Doxxed Mist

      Frankly, I’m surprised you’re still here.

    111. J.o.e says:

      The idea that we advertise out country to potential migrants as a good place to come to while we are doing sweet fuck all for the people whose country this is should have people in fits of anger.

      Victor Orban has turned Hungary’s problems around by giving incentives to Hungarians and making life easy for families. He is called a fascist by many journalists and our own politicians.

      We have food banks, homelessness, drug problems and other issues while bending over backwards to accomodate people from other lands, most of whom are not refugees or asylum seekers and barely a batted eyelid from the same left who just a few years ago were talking about the poverty issue as being an absolute scandal.

      Immigration is a patchwork to the problem of NOT PROPERLY LOOKING AFTER OUR OWN PEOPLE you dumb leftist cunts.

    112. Pixywine says:

      This site is a good way to protect Craig Murreys interests while he is in prison. Prison authorities are remarkably publicity shy when it comes to the treatment of their prisoners. We have more power than we realise I think.

    113. Pixywine says:

      Ruby. You’re completely out of order. The Democrats in the States doxxed ballot counters during the recent elections over there and what happened was that Antifa and BLM picketed their houses vandalised the election officials property and pretty much terrorised them into declaring for Biden on very contentious voting.

    114. robbo says:

      Stuart MacKay and pixywicksy

      You’re wrong. Mist001’s details have been on here since he first posted on this forum-freely available in his Gravatar link pic.

      Now to me that’s advertising and the link to his business shouldn’t be there as it’s against the Rev’s rules.

      Doxxing my arse.. He put the details there himself!

    115. Pixywine says:

      The excuse given by the prison regarding batteries probably refers back to a time when prisoners were able to buy big old pp9 batteries that weighed about half a pound. That inserted into a sock would be used as a weapon. I think prisoners have access to wall sockets now maybe not in all prisons but certainly in some.

    116. J.o.e says:

      For perspective:

      People who are quiet about the harsh effect of mass immigration on local populations, especially the poor, are just as bad as the people who use the excuse ‘free markets’ about negative effects on the same groups.

    117. J.o.e says:

      Another point about the racist home office:

      This mass migration into our country and communities is being done under their watch. It is being done under the ‘racist’ tories.

      These people aren’t ‘anti-migrant’. They are facilitating a fertile ground for cheap labour, lack of lower class social and political cohesion and the ability for the establishment to basically divide and conquer.

      Their occasional heavy hand on the odd family or ridiculous statement about a certain group is really just to keep their dumb fucking supporters happy that ‘something is being done’.

    118. James Che. says:

      So the Scottish government is not the government we supposedly elected in Scotland and it was not in the SNPs manifesto.

      Scotland’s famous for not getting the government it elected,

      But you would think for the government to change half way through without an election must surely be illegal?

    119. Hatuey says:

      In a truly free world and free market, there wouldn’t be any need for passports, immigration policies, or border posts, and people would be able to go anywhere they wanted to go, without any bullshit. That’s the way it used to be and it’s probably where we are heading again.

      I’m hearing some interesting rumours about a big change of policy on covid-19. To be clear, when I say “interesting” I mean totally disturbing and depressing.

      In a nutshell, the war is basically over and covid won. They’ve thrown in the towel on the hope of achieving herd immunity through vaccination. Mass testing of asymptomatic people will end, as will all attempts to mitigate through social distancing. Here’s the fun part; vaccinated or not, we are all getting covid in the next few months — delta can’t / won’t be stopped — and that’s now official.

      Thank God we’ve got Nicola to give us a false sense of hope and security. She’ll be along in the next few days to tell you all this was her decision.

    120. James Che. says:

      On the knowledge that our government changed half wa within its term without an election, are we entitled to rerun our election…….?

    121. Jack Murphy says:

      Ian Lawson has posted a good article today on his site:

      …………….’URGENT CHANGE REQUIRED’……………

      https://tinyurl.com/bvaa7jtj

      Well worth a read—it’s regarding the state of law in Scotland today.

    122. Stuart MacKay says:

      robbo

      Didn’t know that but the intent of the post was still a doxxing. Still, two out of three ain’t bad.

    123. Graf Midgehunter says:

      The very first two sentences says it all. From Gayle Miller at Barrheadboy’s site.

      https://www.barrheadboy.com/we-dont-need-a-referendum-by-gayle-miller/

      NS is just the store dept. manager who gets to choose which tea-bags to use.

      Scotland has unfortunately no leadership with the vision, ruthlessness and the will to use ALL political, civic and economic levers to get independence.

    124. Geoff Anderson says:

      The shameful ongoing corruption of the legal system in Scotland and the status of Police Scotland as the agents of stonewall is depressing.

      It should be of great concern to everyone that the Scottish Government is driving this position.

      Craig Murray is a political prisoner and Sturgeon is sending a message to her opponents.
      Alex Salmond is constantly smeared using the false charges from proven liars within Sturgeons clique. The same clique who continue to leak information only available to a very small group of people.
      The Sturgeon cult submit complaint after complaint to shutdown sites and have Twitter accounts closed.
      Marion Miller is the latest target. They usually attack their targets employer to silence them but in this case they simply used Police Scotland….again!

      This is Sturgeon’s Scotland!

    125. Graf Midgehunter says:

      Some very good news however:

      https://twitter.com/Grouse_Beater/status/1433035655433572357

      Es ist verboten for Gareth to leave us before hitting the 6,000,000 views mark. 🙂

    126. Shocked says:

      The clegg book shows how ludicrously flawed the Salmond strategy of thinking sturgeon would work with him was.

      As Sturgeon controls the country she is able to decided which breaks the law and who doesn’t. The justice system in Scotland is so corrupt it’s laughable.

      Salmond should have gone for the jugular and finished sturgeon, it was the only way he’d have been able to clear his name. Instead he is now reduced to shouting at the wind about a book that brands him a criminal that got away with serious sexual offences and no one will pay the slightest bit of attention to him. As far as the majority of the electorate are concerned he’s a sex offender who got away with it and that will never change until he gets off his backside and finishes sturgeon for good. He needs to get some new advisors.

    127. Yep dont know how they will get away with the book.

    128. David Caledonia says:

      Alba Alba Alba

      I am looking foreward to Greenock with Alex and
      all the other supporters

    129. David Caledonia says:

      A site for sore eyes, and a bloody sore head as well , thank goodness for youtube and some sanity

    130. David Caledonia says:

      The majority of people think Alex Salmond is a sex offender who got away with it.

      That’s the kind of shite that’s written here, he speaks for the majority, his christmas card list must be huge, knowing so many people and hoe they think LMAO

    131. David Caledonia says:

      The majority of people think Alex Salmond is a sex offender who got away with it.

      That’s the kind of shite that’s written here, he speaks for the majority, his christmas card list must be huge, knowing so many people and how they think LMAO

    132. Captain Yossarian says:

      “The justice system in Scotland is so corrupt it’s laughable.” Couldn’t agree more and it is high time there was something done about it by the Secretary of State for Scotland. He’s in charge of the devolution settlement and if we now have bent lawyers all of a sudden then he should get-off his backside and do something about it.

    133. James Che. says:

      Graf midgehunter,
      Alf Baird,

      It is a hard road to shake the colony out of the Scots head of most

      It’s been a number of years now, that I have suggested we can step up to the plate and take legal responsibility for ourselves [ as a group ]when it comes to obtaining independence for Scotland.

      There are methods and ways we can do this as I have mentioned many times.
      These are ignored by most in the independence movement due to looking elsewhere for a leader,
      It appears none wants to lead.
      And that lack of will power and responsibility is the yes movements downfall.

      Even now, when the snp have joined the greens, giving us a government we did not vote for, shortly after the election that was not in their manifesto, everyone looks the other way.
      Waiting for someone else to move.
      It is time the Scottish people themselves took responsibility for their lot, as the Scottish government
      Avoids it.

      The troublesome gender issues, the hate crime bill, the rape clause, children being indoctrinated and told not to talk to parents, extremism climate change ideology without forethought only impoverishes Scotland further while the rich get richer,
      The food banks,
      and corruption feels like we are being run by the mafia,

      I may be the black sheep of my family being the only one born in England,
      But it appears I want and look for ways and legal methods for Scotland to become independent, more than Scots whom were born here,

      It does indeed rattle my cage with anguish that most are having a good moan while sleeping walking into a disasterous future Scotland.

      Scotland and its people have to work as a nation group, if no one wants to be leader.

    134. Republicofscotland says:

      Whilst Scotland has become a corrupt we country that holds political prisons, and its government turns away from independence, and towards destroying the family unit, whilst using bills to shut the population up.

      Ireland a country with a very similar population size, that actually had leaders who fought for its independence, has now taken over the Presidency of the United Nations Security Council from India.

      The things an independent country can do, who’d have thought it.

    135. radgie gadgie says:

      It’s not that the Scottish judiciary doesn’t care whether the public witnesses its vindictive treatment, it actually wants the public to see it. There is no longer an independent journalist left in Scotland unaware of the consequences of damaging the Scottish government.

      Craig is suffering the 21st century equivalent of being hung, drawn and quartered

    136. James Che. says:

      The things an independent country can do.
      If only.

      We cant even manage our own country or gain independence, never mind interfering in someone else’s country.
      As president of the United Nations security council or not.

    137. James Che. says:

      Radgie madgie,

      Was that not a template for the mafia.

    138. Ruby says:

      Stuart MacKay says:
      1 September, 2021 at 12:40 pm
      robbo

      Didn’t know that but the intent of the post was still a doxxing. Still, two out of three ain’t bad.

      Ruby,

      A lot of your posts are now “high spirited” to say the least. In this thread you’ve:

      1. Alluded the First Minister’s “personal preferences”
      2. Taken a swing at Yousaf’s ethnicity
      3. Doxxed Mist

      Frankly, I’m surprised you’re still here.

      Reply

      He admits to getting No 3 wrong.

      What do you think of No 1. Should posters be banned from “Wings’ for posting a joke about ‘She/Her’s’ ‘personal preferences? I just made it up I haven’t a clue if ‘She/Her’ likes French Kissing et La baguette!

      NB I made no mention of the First Minister.

      What about No 2? Is a religion an ethnicity & in what way did a take a swing at it?

      Would Stuart MacKay by any chance be part of the ‘SNP Cult’ he certainly sounds like it.

    139. Ruby says:

      robbo says:
      1 September, 2021 at 11:07 am
      Stuart MacKay and pixywicksy

      You’re wrong. Mist001’s details have been on here since he first posted on this forum-freely available in his Gravatar link pic.

      Doxxing my arse.. He put the details there himself!
      Reply

      Ah bless ‘pixywicksy’ he thinks Mist is a high profile politician!

      I don’t mind ‘wee pixywicksy’ in fact I quite like him. He makes me laugh!

    140. Ruby says:

      On the subject of being ‘high spirited’ & ‘nasty’.

      I don’t believe that being ‘nicey nicey’ and obeying all the ‘rules’ is going to help us out of the situation we’re in.

      PS At the moment

      IT’S SHITE BEING SCOTTISH!

    141. Scott says:

      Does anyone fancy a pint?

    142. Ottomanboi says:

      The UN, what has it ever got right?
      https://www.trtworld.com/americas/twelve-times-the-un-has-failed-the-world-21666
      you can add Korea and Afghanistan to this list of failure.
      Why would an independent Scottish state wish to be associated with this gravy train for second rate Globalist functionaries, has beens mostly.

    143. Ian Brotherhood says:

      This link is to a 6-page summary of Pfizer’s own Risk Assessment Plan.

      (The full version was analysed in some depth on today’s edition of UK Column News, from approx 52mins onwards.)

      Please cast an eye over the 10 tables. All but 1 detail ‘missing information’. The information is ‘missing’ because the effects are unknown, or not understood because the clinical tests have not been done.

      I’ll write that again, in a slightly different form…

      The stuff they are injecting us and our children with – according to the manufacturers themselves – has not been clinically tested.

      https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/COVID-19/Comirnaty-RMP.pdf

    144. Captain Yossarian says:

      “Why would an independent Scottish state wish to be associated with this gravy train for second rate Globalist functionaries, has beens mostly.”

      Taken a look at Holyrood recently? Lorna Slater, who no-one’s heard of and no-one voted for, is in charge of the “circular economy”.

      She says: “We don’t need billionaires in Scotland”. There are not that many billionaires in Scotland anyway. Maybe Jim McColl’s one, who knows. Anyway, Lorna Slater says that Scotland doesn’t need him.

    145. Ottomanboi says:

      The slippery slope.
      https://archive.ph/KGVKs
      And for those who choose not to be «certificated» a little badge, yellow maybe?

      «Lastly, assuming parliamentary approval, it’ll be vitally important for the public to accept these passport rules and for firms to have support from police and regulators as they enforce them»

      Heil Sturgeon.

    146. twathater says:

      This is why we will never get independence , someone says something about a politician who is and has been ripping the pish out of Scotland and Scots for years and is not averse or shy about beating people over the head with the accusations of racist (which he is doing at this time) and we are all aghast and inflamed at the nasty comments

      A wee bit of news for you people EVERYONE and their granny like to demonise , denigrate , defame and berate us Scots but we are just supposed to suck it up and think of it as banter, even our own government which this upstanding arse is a member of is NOT slow to throw the racist slur at people to shut them up

      Do people forget the Charlie Hebdo situation where people were SLAUGHTERED just for making a joke about Muslims yet every other religion can get made fun of or disrespected why is Islam any different , calling out people for jokes only adds to the reverential treatment being afforded and expected by members of that religion . If we are all Jock Tamsons bairns and all Scots why is one group to be considered excluded from criticism . The N word globally is recognised as a pejorative and racist term and people refrain from using it , why is it then acceptable for members of that ethnicity to use it freely in music or in everyday language

    147. Velofello says:

      Fancy a pint? I’ve been enjoying some Ruby “whine” here, and most agreeable to my palate.

      We need to shake the tree – Michael Fry’s article in yesterday’s National:

      Of the Scottish population – 22% high earners;31% middle management;21% skilled workmen;26% unskilled/ unemployed.
      I read that as a potential 31+21+26 = 78% Indy supporters if we reach them..

      So SNP, where are our leaflets to spread the word?

    148. Dan says:

      Serious question.
      Just how much time can one individual actually commit to so many activities and still perform all those duties at a high level?
      Not content with being director of Progress Scotland, new MSP for Edinburgh Central, Argos Wheeliebin takes on sorting out Edinburgh’s waste / recycling collection issues, but he’s also sorting out the planet’s environment too.

      https://twitter.com/ScotGovEurope/status/1433057741791244291

      Call me old fashioned but it takes a lot of time and accrued knowledge on particular subjects to actually do one task well.
      Are we witnessing the old jack of all trades, master of none syndrome playing out here…

    149. Robert Graham says:

      o/t

      And the derghorn dyke can stick her vac pass up her arse

      This as all the other pointless fkn stupidity makes no sense

      Being jagged won’t stop you catching the plague

      Being jagged won’t stop you passing it on if you happen to contract it

      SO WHAT IS THE fkn POINT ?

      ITS BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD isn’t it yah lying :::: .

    150. Alf Baird says:

      James Che. @ 2:39 pm

      “It is a hard road to shake the colony out of the Scots head of most. I have suggested we can step up to the plate and take legal responsibility for ourselves [ as a group ]when it comes to obtaining independence for Scotland.”

      You are right to highlight here the critical core matter of a people taking ‘responsibility’. Under colonial rule and hence a people inculcated with a ‘colonial mindset’, our past is deleted for us and our future is decided for us. The words of Albert Memmi seem to fit us well:

      “The most serious blow suffered by the colonized is being removed from history. Colonization usurps any free role in either war or peace, every decision contributing to his destiny and that of the world, and all cultural and social ‘responsibility’. The colonized feels neither ‘responsible’ nor guilty nor skeptical, for he is out of the game. He is in no way a subject of history any more. He has forgotten how to participate actively in history and no longer asks to do so.”

      In our reality “the colonized are conditioned to feel inadequate”. And, due to the UK ‘union’ impacts of linguistic and cultural oppression/imperialism and colonialism:

      “The dilemma involved introduced a schizoid element into the (Scottish) national psyche..” (Dr David Purves)

      This personality disorder in part explains why Scots, under colonialism, do not take ‘responsibility’ for their own affairs and instead opt to be passive bystanders allowing others to walk all over them. As Frantz Fanon said: “Colonialism is a disease of the mind.”

      Independence is therefore decolonisation and the Scots need to first understand this so that they may then take full ‘responsibility’ over their affairs.

      https://yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com/2021/05/01/is-scottish-independence-decolonisation/

    151. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Don’t know if anyone else dared listen to the return of Kaye-with-an-E on Radio Scotland this morning, but the first topic up for discussion was the vaccination of our children.

      I didn’t last very long as it soon became clear what her own view is.

      But the final straw was her repeated posing of the question ‘So, should we get the rugrats jabbed?’

      I’m not devoid of a sense of humour, but it seemed particularly inappropriate. It did, however, provide a valuable indicator as to the prevalent BBC attitude to the entire subject at a time when many, if not most parents are horribly confused and worried about it all.

    152. John Main says:

      @Hatuey – 1 September, 2021 at 11:56 am

      “In a truly free world and free market, there wouldn’t be any need for passports, immigration policies, or border posts, and people would be able to go anywhere they wanted to go, without any bullshit. That’s the way it used to be and it’s probably where we are heading again.”

      Hows about if it would only rain at night on weekdays and maybes lunchtimes on really hot days to cool and freshen the air. All other times during daylight it would be sunny but with a low UV index to prevent excessive sunburn. Winds would be adequately strong for offshore windfarms and leisure sailcraft but gentle on land.

      Not seriously, I’m just having a wee bit laugh!

      What’s your excuse?

    153. robbo says:

      John Main says:
      1 September, 2021 at 7:04 pm
      @Hatuey – 1 September, 2021 at 11:56 am

      “In a truly free world and free market, there wouldn’t be any need for passports, immigration policies, or border posts, and people would be able to go anywhere they wanted to go, without any bullshit. That’s the way it used to be and it’s probably where we are heading again.”

      Aye Hatuey that’s the way it used to be duh!

      What about the Romans, The Vikings, The Moguls and all the other plunderers- The British Et al

      Aye just the way it always was eh. Fecking humans they jist don’t get it do they!

    154. John Main says:

      Alf Baird

      “The colonised are conditioned to feel inadequate”

      Is that the explanation for the inadequacy of the SNP government? Because they are conditioned to feel inadequate, they can only ever churn out inadequate solutions to Scotland’s problems? Digging us ever deeper into the mire?

      Are we BTL here the only group that is not conditioned to feel inadequate? How is it that we (and perhaps only we) can clearly see the SNP’s inadequacy? Have we broken the chains of our conditioning?

    155. Hatuey says:

      Ian Brotherhood: “The stuff they are injecting us and our children with – according to the manufacturers themselves – has not been clinically tested.”

      Thanks for the info and links, Ian.

      Out of interest, do you have any links on the long term effects of the virus on those that die? To put it another way, had the disease itself been clinically tested to the standard you appear to require?

      Thanks in advance.

    156. Pixywine says:

      Kaye Adams is an idiote.

    157. Pixywine says:

      The “vaccination pass” is the excuse to impose a digital Identification system on the public. Remember when the Blair Government tried to bring it in and we were, as a people, generally against it?

    158. Pixywine says:

      Why is the fool Sturgeon such a Blairite?

    159. Pixywine says:

      Lorna Slater unelected change agent Minister for Circlewanks.

    160. Ian Brotherhood says:

      ‘Out of interest, do you have any links on the long term effects of the virus on those that die?’

      That was Hatuey at 7.51.

      Just putting it up for anyone who may have missed it.

      Another instant classic from our correspondent somewhere in space.

    161. Mark Boyle says:

      Hatuey says: 1 September, 2021 at 7:51 pm

      “Thanks for the info and links, Ian.

      Out of interest, do you have any links on the long term effects of the virus on those that die?”

      This is a piss take, right?

      If not, get your CV to the Herald right away, a glittering future awaits.

    162. willie says:

      John Main.

      The SNP leadership have been turned, compromised, bribed or blackmailed. Its as simple as that. And for those that haven’t been compromised, bribed or blackmailed, it’s a dozy existence in the part time parliament marking time, taking the cash. In fact, for some, where else would they earn the cash and benefits that they get for being an MSP.

      Ah how a great party turned from something that was honourable to something that to use the crude talk is now a bag of shit. But it is!

    163. Gfaetheblock says:

      Once again for those at the back.

      The vaccines have all gone through clinical trials.

      Don’t get your info from from right wing conspiracy theory websites or attempt to read documentation you are not competent to understand.

    164. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Gfaetheblock (8.24) –

      That’s a straight-up 100% lie.

      And you know it is.

      Fuck off.

    165. Willie says:

      You can take the boy out the colony but you can’t take the colony out the boy.

      Born and bred, proud and loud, but in truth servile and subservient.

      Too poor, too wee, too stupid. Better Together in fact and then both votes SNP.

      We get by with aittle hpfrom our friends

    166. J.o.e says:

      ‘or attempt to read documentation you are not competent to understand.’

      In that case few of us should read through a computer manual, car manual, house deeds, mortgage details, last will and testament etc.

      This is the last argument of people who want to keep you inside your ignorant little box.

      1 – there is no evidence

      then

      2 – you are not qualified to understand that evidence.

      I cannot express the disgust I feel at the sheer arrogance of the cunt making this statement.

    167. Hatuey says:

      It’s starting to look like John Main is some sort of bot.

      Robbo doesn’t seem to believe that right up until WWI we could travel freely without passports in most of the world. That was particularly true in Europe which (coincidentally) at that time was at the zenith of its power.

      My question on the long term effects of the virus on dead people makes as much sense as the questions we see daily on here about the long term effects of the vaccine on the living.

      If you’re drowning and someone throws you a lifebelt that hasn’t been fully tested to Ian Brotherhood’s high standards, is there anyone here that would prefer to breathe water?

      Vote with your lungs.

    168. gregor says:

      Malicious Banana Scotland,

      How can the non-vaccinated ‘type’ hold equal status and support a fully inclusive Scotland re. systematically and socially outcast like a sub-human freak of nature, for ‘wrong-normal biological status/wrong-perception/wrong-informed choice/wrong-dignity’:

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58412832

      “It is expected that all COVID-19 vaccinees will need to receive booster doses at regular intervals and it is possible that vaccinated individuals will have to receive repeated immunisations throughout life to provide protection against new emerging variants.”:

      https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/Risk-of-transmission-and-reinfection-of-SARS-CoV-2-following-vaccination.pdf

      https://www.science.org/news/2021/08/grim-warning-israel-vaccination-blunts-does-not-defeat-delta

      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-astrazeneca-results-vaccine-liability-idUSKCN24V2EN

    169. J.o.e says:

      ‘My question on the long term effects of the virus on dead people makes as much sense as the questions we see daily on here about the long term effects of the vaccine on the living.’

      Ehhh…no it doesn’t.

    170. Gfaetheblock says:

      Ian,

      I know that they absolutely have been through all stages of clinical trials, expedited and used under emergency authorisation. Telling me to fuck off doesn’t change facts and the work people I know have delivered.

      Are you a pharmacologist or experienced in the administration or the delivery of clinical trials? Or do you just shitpost conspiracy nonsense from nutty websites?

    171. Alf Baird says:

      John Main @ 7:17 pm

      ““The colonised are conditioned to feel inadequate”
      Is that the explanation for the inadequacy of the SNP government?”

      Here the “bourgeoisie seek a compromise” with the oppressor. Postcolonial theory tells us that a dominant National Party suffers from ‘petrification’ at the final hurdle and seeks to make ‘an accommodation with colonialism’. This serves to delay and risk independence, as well as creating the conditions for conflict. The dominant National Party then joins with the oppressor to marginalise and attack the so-called ‘radicals’ in the party who are seeking a more rapid move to independence; the latter then create new National Parties, much as we see in Scotland.

      By and large “the native intellectual over-stresses details (currency, trade, defence etc etc) and thereby comes to forget that the defeat of colonialism is the real object of the struggle” (Fanon). However inevitably some are more enlightened than others (e.g. via indy blogs), especially those coming from the group who have suffered most under colonialism (in our case the working class Scots speaker), and those who take the time to better comprehend the true nature of colonialism.

    172. J.o.e says:

      ‘I know that they absolutely have been through all stages of clinical trials, expedited and used under emergency authorisation. ‘

      Another lie. They required emergency authorization because they hadn’t fully completed clinical trials.

    173. Gfaetheblock says:

      Hi Joe.

      We have had enough of experts, have we. Are you Michael Gove in disguise?

      There is loads of evidence, it’s just best read by experts and not selectively misquoted or taken out of context by conspiracy theorists.

      Car manuals and mortgage details are really easy to read, they are written aimed at consumers. They are not technical specialist documents.

    174. Fred says:

      Hatuey@11:56 am
      ” the war is basically over and covid won”

      If the war is over, it isn’t Covid that’s won – its Big Pharma, Big Tech and Governments that have won – and people like you blindly let it happen because you lacked any kind of foresight.
      You didn’t have the vision or clarity to see that it would never end with just one ‘jab’ in the arm. People like you are responsible for the forthcoming digital bureaucratic prison that we are all to be held in.

      Anyway, as far as i’m concerned i’m still on the battlefield – looking behind at you lying in mud waving your little white, snot-filled handkerchief in the air and crying for mummy.

    175. J.o.e says:

      @Gfaetheblock

      Im not sure what your angle is but you are factually wrong.

      The clinical trials have been ongoing. Emergency use authorisation was required to get them to the public.

    176. Gfaetheblock says:

      I am glad we agree Joe.

      Clinical trials were completed before emergency authorisation, and we continue to test variants.

    177. John Main says:

      Hatuey

      It genuinely grieves me to see people posting nonsense, so I try to help a little.

      Yes, Europeans could travel freely without passports prior to WW1. The main reasons being:

      1) They didn’t expect to have guaranteed benefits and rights at their destination to be paid for by the taxpayers of their destination.
      2) They knew if they were violent, abusive, idle, law-breaking, mischief-making or even just noticeable as standing out from the crowd at their destination, they would be thrown in a dark cell indefinitely.
      3) The places they went to were undeveloped and under-populated.

      Speaking personally, when all 3 conditions are met again, I look forwards to free travel without passports once more.

      Yes, if you are drowning, any lifebelt is welcome. If you are happily swimming, you don’t need a lifebelt. Once again, you betray your irrational belief in the “Covid is deadly” meme. For the majority of people, it is not. Thus, it is perfectly rational to weigh the risks of a not fully tested vaccine against the risks of a mild cold-like sniffle. And decide to take your chances with the latter.

      You do know there are maybe two dozen different vaccines out there, do you? How have you managed to convince yourself that the short-term side effects and long-term side effects of all of them are identical?

    178. J.o.e says:

      ‘Clinical trials were completed before emergency authorisation, and we continue to test variants.’

      Nope.

      They would never have needed emergency authorization if the clinical trials had been completed LOL

    179. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Gfaetheblock –

      I don’t often lose my temper here, but I’m listening to the football and am not in the best of moods.

      You are a fucking ignoramus.

      You were spouting the same shite a year ago, maybe more, and giving it out to anyone who dared question the official narrative. That was back in the day, when you were team-handed and had all sorts of Wings veterans to back you up.

      And now, when the evidence is in, and we can see that these ‘vaccines’ don’t work, that masks don’t work, that lockdowns don’t work, that none of it fucking works, you still have the fucking gall to come on here and talk down to folk who are trying their level best to raise the alarm by providing verifiable links to sources proving that it’s all a nightmarish scam?

      You are a despicable cunt.

    180. robbo says:

      Hatuey says:
      1 September, 2021 at 8:52 pm
      It’s starting to look like John Main is some sort of bot.

      Robbo doesn’t seem to believe that right up until WWI we could travel freely without passports in most of the world. That was particularly true in Europe which (coincidentally) at that time was at the zenith of its power.

      ——–

      It wasn’t really my point.

    181. Gfaetheblock says:

      Vaccines work, they have been tested and will remain part of our life for a good time to come.

      Lockdowns clearly work and masks reduce spread.

      I would pity you anti Vaxxer if it wasn’t both dangerous to society and just plain depressing.

    182. Hatuey says:

      Listen, we don’t need to argue about the vaccine or covid any more. It’s all over. About 90% of the adult population rejected the conspiracy theories and reached out for the untested Iifebelts. You lost that battle, guys, deal with it.

      If that’s the bad news, here’s the good news… we are all going to be getting covid in the next few months, every single one of us, and that means we get to test your theory that it’s just like having a little cold.

      All the data suggests you’re much less likely to suffer badly and die if you’ve been vaccinated with the untested vaccine, but let’s just wait and see.

    183. J.o.e says:

      ‘Vaccines work, they have been tested and will remain part of our life for a good time to come.’

      Way to skip the point there.

    184. John Main says:

      Alf Baird

      Thanks for your response.

      I guess the test of any theory is its predictive powers.

      What does the theory predict for the likely trajectory of the drive for Scottish Indy, given where it is at now?

    185. David Caledonia says:

      Vaccines do mot just appear suddenly out of thin air, research is going on all the time, and research is going on into medications that have been on the market for decades, and its often discovered that a pill that helps depression can also have an affect in controlling nerve pain, this actually happened to my mother, she was given a pill that was used for depression, but actually got rid of a terrible pain she was having in a nerve in her face.
      Experimental medication does not exist, no big pharma company would release anything they where not sure of.
      It has happened in the past, but times change and companies now act more responsibly, and anyone that tries to pull a fast one will soon see what the inside of a prison cell looks like

    186. John Main says:

      Hatuey

      At the end of June this year, approximately 1% of the population of the poorest countries in the world had been vaccinated.

      Hundreds of millions of people around the world are catching Covid without vaccines and are developing herd immunity.

      We don’t have to test the “theories” about the severity of Covid. Hundreds of millions of people have already tested the theories for us. FFS, it’s coming up 2 years since the Chinese gifted Covid to the world. What do you really think is going on in Africa, South America, Central Asia, etc?

      Anyway, you are obviously s@@@@@@g yourself so it’s unfair of me to keep rubbing your nose in it.

    187. David Caledonia says:

      Masks against covid do not stop its spread, if you can breathe without your own oxygen supply then its obvious you are breathing through the mask.
      Wear a mask and pay attention to the likes of a fire or traffic fumes, can you smell the fire and can you smell the traffic fumes, of course you can, because if you could’nt you would be dead through lack of oxygen

    188. McDuff says:

      Is there no legal body in Scotland with morality and a respect for the law who is prepared to speak out at the injustice meted out to Craig Murray? No journalist, ( apart from a very few) no police officer, no politician, no churchman, no trade union, no human rights organisation…. no one?
      Apparently not. This to me is the indictment that reveals what a sinister place Scotland has now become. But my earnest hope is that one day this country will have an honest and respected government who will wipe away the shame by revisiting the injustices towards Salmond, Murray, Hirst etc and Sturgeon Wolffe ,Dorian and others be held accountable for their actions.

    189. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @David Caledonia (10.28) –

      Huh?

      What?

      Have you ever tried sending any of your stuff to Viz?

    190. Fred says:

      “Experimental medication does not exist, no big pharma company would release anything they where not sure of.
      It has happened in the past, but times change and companies now act more responsibly, and anyone that tries to pull a fast one will soon see what the inside of a prison cell looks like”

      I had to read that twice just to make sure i had read it correctly in the first place.
      Actually, you know, words fail me for a response – i’d be more successful explaining it to my dog.
      I’m going to bed.

    191. sarah says:

      @ McDuff: I was speaking to a neighbour about these matters today and he said that he and I read the blogs but most people don’t. So the police, lawyers, clergymen, Trade Unions etc might just be unaware – after all the TV, radio and press aren’t reporting it.

      So if any of us know a human rights lawyer, clergyman etc etc perhaps we should be telling them so they can do their bit to help.

    192. David Caledonia says:

      Polio devastating disease, polio vaccine eradicated it for anyone that got the jab

      People in Africa going blind from drinking dirty water

      Herd immunity may happen in time, but when your dead
      from a disease, your time has gone

    193. David Caledonia says:

      Taking important decisions about your health is quite simple as far as I am concerned
      A doctor wanted me to increase my diabetic medication, I said no, I told him that his reason was wrong, I pointed out how the germans do not increase the medication as they have a higher threshhold for doing so
      By increasing my medication this doctor would be putting my health at risk and could even lead to my death
      Ofc, he would not take on board what I had told him, its my life and he does not get to put me at risk with his opinions, I know only to well the consequences of being over medicated by doctores, my mothers brother had a stroke at 60 and died 3 weeks later from the stroke
      I said nothing, but he was a diabetic and highly medicated, not overweight, was as fit as a butchers dog as far as I could see, but the medical people have got a line that if you cross it medically speaking they increase your script
      My cousin dropped dead in hospital, he was a diabetic and 2 months younger than me, thin and seemed to me to be fit and healthy, the doctors just follow rules laid down by who knows who, but I have proved them wrong time after time
      As a little fun fact, I had a friend who smoked 60 fags a day and drank a bottle of gin over a day every day
      His doctor had told him to stop or he would be dead, when I spoke to him he said, that was 20 years ago and that doctor died a relatively young man and I am still here, he lived till he was about 85, average life span for men is 82 years old

    194. Alf Baird says:

      John Main @ 10:07 pm

      “What does the theory predict for the likely trajectory of the drive for Scottish Indy, given where it is at now?”

      Who knows. It could be a clean break. It could be a mean break. But there will be a break with colonialism. Ultimately the people must come to realise that “dignity and sovereignty were exact equivalents, and a free people living in dignity is a sovereign people.”

    195. robbo says:

      David Caledonia

      Do you keep any wild animals at home by any chance?

    196. Hatuey says:

      John Main Bot: “Hundreds of millions of people around the world are catching Covid without vaccines and are developing herd immunity.”

      At least 5 million are dead, fruitcake.

    197. James says:

      John Main: “…it’s coming up 2 years since the Chinese gifted Covid to the world…”

      Fecking hilarious!

      US & “UK” have millions invested in the Wuhan labs. Away and lie in your unionist Tory trope pish, Boris.

    198. James says:

      twathater: “…The N word globally is recognised as a pejorative and racist term and people refrain from using it , why is it then acceptable for members of that ethnicity to use it freely in music or in everyday language…”

      The best way for any oppressed minority to take control of hate language used against them is to own the word(s) hence black folk now own the ‘N’ word, gay folk own the ‘queer’ word etc i.e. they are allowed to use it to describe themselves – in defiance of right wing ‘wankers’ everywhere.

    199. Pixywine says:

      Gfaetheblick. Fuck off scumsucka.

    200. Pixywine says:

      If you’re not “drowning” then you don’t need a gene therapy drug. It’s not a vaccine and according to Israeli studies it only has 39% efficacy which is not as good as the 100% efficacy most enjoy with natural immunity.
      Don’t allow Pharma drug pushers to medicalised you and inject you every six months in order to keep your “Freedom” passport up to date. The vaccine passport will demand to know more than your vaccination status. Function creep is evident from the start in England. It is a digital STASI File which will be aligned with a Chinese style social credit system. You’ll be worked like Sims. This “vaccination passport” is anathema to a free society that respects privacy and personal freedoms. With freedom you can more fully exercise responsibility so no need for lectures on that from self serving Government agents. Fuck off Sturgeon and shove Blairs digital passport up your canyon.

    201. Pixywine says:

      David Caledonia the world’s least successful vaccine salesman. You don’t know what the Hell you’re talking about and I can’t be arsed going over the story for Government trumpets like you.
      Hey People. What does it take to waken you up to Fascism? The Alec Salmond business? Craig Murray in prison? Marion Millar Oppression? 18 months of “emergency powers” when there’s clearly no longer an “emergency”? Hatespeech laws that will creep into political speech? What does it take for yoy to recognise Fascism a policeman’s boot through your door?

    202. Pixywine says:

      Gfaetheblick is a unio nist Troll who used to haunt Craig’s site. The “trials” carried out on the gene altering therapies currently being handed out like sweeties killed all of the animal subjects when they were exposed to natural flu virus. The brief human trials carried out in the summer of 2020 killed one patient and paralysed another a lady as I recall. The Government of course gave the go ahead to use the whole population in the next stage of testing. Anyone telling you its been adequately tested is either completely fucking ignorant or bare faced fucking liars.
      Stop repeating media propaganda wake up for fucksake.

    203. Meg merrilees says:

      Reading in Thursday newspaper that the UK Government has drawn up contingency plans to move nuclear subs from an Independent Scotland.
      There are three options:

      Move them to Devonport? in the south of England.
      Move them to an Allied country possibly the US or France or – keeping the best till last:
      Create a British Overseas Territory, a kind of Gibraltar within an Indy Scotland, an Independent British territory to include Faslane and Coulport and keep the subs where they are but lease the land from Scotland for at least 10 years or more.
      Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

      Which bit of an anti-nuclear Scotland do they not understand??

    204. Tannadice Boy says:

      Back to the original article about Craig Murray. I spent 4 hours writing a letter to Craig but my wife ripped it up. She thought it criticised the SG too much even tho I thought it was on the right line HCB. Me and the wife are a bit frosty about it. A card with flowers on it, no thanks. I will write to Craig on my own terms. She has got trapped by the intimidation. Nor for me. I will write what I want to because we live in a freeish country.

    205. ReturnOfTheBodySnatchers says:

      What a rancid turd that Mist guy is – going from being oh-so concerned about CM to viciously tossing him onto the shit heap of a completely fabricated, political stitch up, the outcome of which might very well end his life, which CM did for the benefit of us all who want independence and a truthful, fair, democratic society just because Misty got his panties in a twisty over Stu Campbell’s scathing slapdown!

    206. Breeks says:

      Meg merrilees says:
      2 September, 2021 at 1:52 am
      Reading in Thursday newspaper that the UK Government has drawn up contingency plans to move nuclear subs from an Independent Scotland.
      There are three options:…

      Which bit of an anti-nuclear Scotland do they not understand??

      Which bit of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty do they not understand?

      ” Under Article I of the NPT, nuclear-weapon states pledge not to transfer nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices to any recipient or in any way assist, encourage or induce any non-nuclear-weapon state in the manufacture or acquisition of a nuclear weapon.

      Then again, we know what Westminster thinks about any agreement it signs.

      I know it wouldn’t be everybody’s option, but I’d be prepared to negotiate a three year transition period, but a precondition of that transition would be the removal of nuclear hulks from Rosyth. Clear up their shite and take it with them.

    207. Captain Yossarian says:

      “COVID Recovery Secretary @JohnSwinney met with stakeholders today to ask all individuals, organisations and businesses to continue playing a full role in our collective effort to suppress the virus and avoid further restrictions.”

      Is this gangster’s house of cards beginning to collapse? I think it is, you know.

    208. Captain Yossarian says:

      @Tannadice Boy – I think we have an answer now. What took Holyrood 5-years and would have taken them another 5-years, has been sorted-out thanks to the bloggers, and Scottish Engineers, in 4 or 5 months. The vested interests in Scottish civic life run deep nowadays and they will get you in the end.

    209. John Main says:

      @James – 1 September, 2021 at 11:40 pm

      “The best way for any oppressed minority to take control of hate language used against them is to own the word(s) hence black folk now own the ‘N’ word, gay folk own the ‘queer’ word etc i.e. they are allowed to use it to describe themselves – in defiance of right wing ‘wankers’ everywhere.”

      So by your logic, people are either black or right wing wankers.

      I would guess you are black then. But then again, if you are, why all the pussy-footing around the ‘N’ word. You own it, so write it out in full.

      So you must be a right wing wanker. We do get a few right wing wankers BTL here, but you are the first to be loud and proud about it.

    210. Ruby says:

      Tannadice Boy says:
      2 September, 2021 at 2:21 am
      Back to the original article about Craig Murray. I spent 4 hours writing a letter to Craig but my wife ripped it up. She thought it criticised the SG too much even tho I thought it was on the right line HCB. Me and the wife are a bit frosty about it. A card with flowers on it, no thanks. I will write to Craig on my own terms. She has got trapped by the intimidation. Nor for me. I will write what I want to because we live in a freeish country.

      Reply

      I’m pretty sure there are a lot of people like your wife and that is pretty scary. Even worse would be if your wife was working on behalf of ‘the party’ and reported you to the authorities.

      I got a couple of replies yesterday which made me think it’s possible that there are people on the look out for any possible infraction of the ‘SNP’s Hate Crime Bill’

      I’m trying to find a word for those people. I know that in Germany they had the ‘Hitler Youth’ and that during the French occupation they had French people corroborating with the Nazis & grassing their ‘friends’ and ‘neighbours’ I don’t know what they were called. Can you help?

      Before we can think about independence we need to free Scotland from ‘The Cult’. No idea how that can be done. Don’t think being intimidated and cowering away in the corner saying nothing is going to help one iota!

      In the meantime:

      IT’S SHITE BEING SCOTTISH

      PS Be careful who you invite for dinner & what you say in the pub. Beware of ‘The Cult’

    211. David Caledonia says:

      Some people are just pig ignorant about how big pharma’s work, tests ffs they test test test and test test test, yes and test test test again and again
      Its what they fecking do all day most days, some people seem to think all the people in the companies sit about on their arses all day waiting for a disease to show up
      Take cancer as an example, cancer rsearch never stops, years ago you got lung cancer you died, now its curable it caught early, how has this happened, because people every day are testing testing and fecking testing new cancer treatments

    212. Ottomanboi says:

      Captain Yossarian
      Stakeholder is a WEF «Great Reset» buzzword.
      CovidRecoSec is well on form. Knows whose pulling his wires.
      ScotGov such a collection of puppets.

    213. David Caledonia says:

      Be careful what you say LMAO at that comment

      The scots have been attacked for hundreds of years, even the fecking romans got a brickie called hadrian to build a wall, never worked and it never could work
      The scots refuse to live under tyrany, and that will never change, what’s happening now is not sustainable and is only a passing phase
      We vote clowns into government and wonder why our lives turn into a circus run by absolutely untalented morons
      Apart from getting the vaccine and wearing a mask to get on a bus and go to the shops or whatever my life carries on as mormal, and no little git from irvine will change that

    214. Ruby says:

      ReturnOfTheBodySnatchers says:
      just because Misty got his panties in a twisty over Stu Campbell’s scathing slapdown!

      Reply
      Mist was a cunt way before that. I was surprised that ‘The Rev’ even bothered to engage with him & his slapdown wasn’t all that scathing.

      On the other hand opening the trap door marked ‘fuck right off’ without giving him any warning was pretty scathing.

    215. Captain Yossarian says:

      About 15 years ago, a review was carried-out into the complaints procedure against the Scottish public sector and Scottish lawyers in particular.

      The review was chaired by a Glasgow lawyer who has gone-on to become fabulously wealthy. Don’t even try and complain about his law firm.

      15-years later and Scotland is in the grubber. I understand though that he is still chiseling away. Making money is a virtue in itself. No need to apologize for anything.

    216. Ottomanboi says:

      David Caledonia
      The body’s natural immune system is the mechanism for fghting disease. Stress is the greatest cause of damage to that system, a mental condition. Modern life conditions influenced by external forces such as «government» and other burocratic interference is a major player.
      The Covid so-called pandemic has been well played by the system.
      Big Pharma is about producing drugs that create steady revenue stream hence most of what is in the pharmacy has been around for decades and is palliative.
      Antibiotics and vaccines are quick fixes but eventually may do harm to the natural defence chemistry of the body. They are not for everybody as the contraindications, required by law, will inform you. Trouble few bother to read them.
      These Covid vaxxes were fast tracked. The public are the test animals in a global lab.
      Governments are Big Pharma’s «dealers».
      As with thalidomide and other pharma «errors», in a few years we will have a tsunami of potential consequences. Big Pharma have already got legal cover for that eventuality apparently. Good Business practice.

    217. Ruby says:

      https://archive.is/yNBlH

      Oh look! Everyone is going to have to get a smoke alarm.
      Surely that will include Saughton?

    218. FMQs at the Transcult Reichstag,

      She/Her will be flanked by the Green Goblin and Swinney,

      She/Her..

      `I will take no lessons about feminism from woman`

    219. Ruby says:

      Ottomanboi says:
      2 September, 2021 at 9:09 am
      David Caledonia
      The body’s natural immune system is the mechanism for fghting disease. Stress is the greatest cause of damage to that system, a mental condition.

      Reply

      Very interesting.

      I noticed that any time I was under stress I caught a cold.
      I thought ‘this is all I need a bloody cold’
      This always happened around Christmas.

      I did some research and discovered that all the anti-bodies normally used to fight a cold were too busy fighting the stress or at least that is what I understood.

      Relaxation was impossible because the body was producing the very powerful drug called adrenaline. Adrenaline was useful back in the day when you had to ‘fight or flight’ an angry bear or these days if you require to lift a car. It’s very powerful stuff!

      It’s good to watch your mind, fit in relaxation time & don’t sweat the small stuff.

    220. Dan says:

      @ Breeks

      Aye, the old sub situation is a bloody joke. Where’s SEPA! lol

      Aah, that’s right, SEPA are too busy trying to sort their own IT systems out that they failed to protect (which in itself is kinda ironic seeing as they are a so called protection agency), so they don’t have time to get torn in about the Royal Navy telling them to get their shit cleaned up.

      https://www.navylookout.com/the-painfully-slow-process-of-dismantling-ex-royal-navy-nuclear-submarines/

      Archived version of above link.

      https://archive.is/Kbz32

    221. James says:

      John Main;

      Stop being obtuse. Or are you just thick? Read it again.

    222. Hatuey says:

      Ottoman: “in a few years we will have a tsunami of potential consequences…”

      We potentially have one now. Actually, we potentially have 200 billion tsunamis of potential consequences. Just reading this could potentially cause another potential tsunami of potential consequences.

    223. Scott says:

      David Caledonia says:
      2 September, 2021 at 8:45 am

      Be careful what you say LMAO at that comment

      The scots have been attacked for hundreds of years, even the fecking romans got a brickie called hadrian to build a wall, never worked and it never could work

      Yeah, it never worked…except it did.

      It was a trading route between the Solway & the Tyne, not a barrier. Similarly with the Antonine Wall linking the Clyde & Forth.

    224. Hatuey says:

      “It’s good to watch your mind, fit in relaxation time & don’t sweat the small stuff.”

      Oh fuck. The anti-vaxxers are evolving into aromatherapists.

    225. Scott says:

      Hatuey says:
      2 September, 2021 at 10:39 am

      “It’s good to watch your mind, fit in relaxation time & don’t sweat the small stuff.”

      Oh fuck. The anti-vaxxers are evolving into aromatherapists.

      Oh fuck, the tub-thumpers are evolving into cartoon characters.

      Here’s the Yellow Card reports for the Coronavirus/Covid-19 medications [Licenced for emergency use only]

      https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/990934/COVID-19_brand_unspecified_Vaccine_Anlysis_Print_26.05.2021.pdf

      https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/990933/COVID-19_Moderna_Vaccine_Analysis_Print_26.05.2021.pdf

      https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/990932/COVID-19_AstraZeneca_Vaccine_Analysis_Print_26.05.2021.pdf

      https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/990930/COVID-19_Pfizer_Vaccine_Analysis_Print_26.05.2021.pdf

      Now, I’m not anti-vaccine in any way, but I do like to research any & all medicine I’m offered.

      None of these have completed Phase 3 trials, so a complete picture of associated side-effects isn’t available yet.

      Until that stage is completed, I’ll continue to ignore any further offers that may come from the Health Board.

      As is evidenced, the transmission of the virus isn’t impeded either way, so othering people seems a bit daft, if I’m being polite. *ungrits teeth*

      This demonisation of those who have chosen not to take the vaccine must stop.

    226. radgie gadgie says:

      David Caledonia says “… no big pharma company would release anything they were not sure of.”

      Sorry David, but that’s spectacularly untrue. The largest fines in criminal history have been imposed on Big Pharma companies for deliberately selling drugs which they knew to be dangerous, even lethal. From Wikipedia:

      “Glaxo’s $3 billion settlement included the largest civil, False Claims Act settlement on record,[1] and Pfizer’s $2.3 billion settlement including a record-breaking $1.3 billion criminal fine.”
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_pharmaceutical_settlements

      Please note: These are criminal convictions for deliberate fraud, not negligence. In all the above cases, the companies made profits far larger than the massive fines, ie, the criminal fines were just an operating cost. They include the main covid vaccine producers Pfizer, GlaxoSmithKline, Johnstone & Johnstone, and AstraZeneca. All these companies, who have proved that they value profits above human life, have been granted legal immunity from prosecution over the effects of their covid vaccines.

      David, you add “… companies now act more responsibly …” Afraid not, the offences continue up to the present day:
      https://www.enjuris.com/blog/resources/largest-pharmaceutical-settlements-lawsuits/

    227. Ottomanboi says:

      Hatuey 10:24
      You’re right, it’s here and now. The system is broken. I think that is the plan. Democracy and rep. gov. can be binned and the Resetters can fill the gap. My education is being well screwed.
      Politicians and their functionaries walked into this trap and they deserve the worst, unfortunately, we, the people, will be left to carry the consequences. As a class they are finished, «authority» or what passes for it in the sweaty hands of self styled experts, likewise. The house is falling down, yet people are still climbing onto the roof.
      Libertarian, rational social anarchy anybody?

    228. Hatuey says:

      So, basically the grand strategy today as far as covid is concerned is ‘herd immunity’ without the immunity part. The scientists now accept that immunity isn’t possible with covid, just as it isn’t possible with flu. We basically can’t keep up with the variants.

      Just a few weeks ago the companies behind the vaccines were telling us how easy it would be to develop new vaccines that targeted the emerging new variants. They’ve all gone quiet on that.

      We are all getting it, as I explained yesterday. The immediate goal for politicians is to gently control the rate and timing of infection levels so that the NHS can keep up. Sound familiar? You can expect to see some rather futile mitigation measures being reintroduced.

      Natural immunity doesn’t stop you catching new variants either, although it does provide a better spectrum of antibody protection beyond just targeting the spike protein.

      And based on the chatter I heard today, vaccine passports are now inevitable. The more astute amongst you will be wondering why vaccine passports became inevitable just as the government accepted that the vaccine isn’t able to stop us all catching the disease…

      I have my suspicions about that.

      Kerching!

    229. chas says:

      With regards to the never ending debate on here regarding vaccines.
      The effectiveness of an individuals’ immune system varies from person to person and broadly does an effective job.
      Sometimes, however, it does need a bit of a ‘boost’ especially when encountering ‘invaders’ it has never met before.
      This is where drugs/antibiotics/vaccines come into play.
      If YOU, as an individual, do not wish to take anything that could possibly assist your body in fighting infection, that is up to you. I can only assume that this is because you have gleaned information from wherever which stops you. Babies/young kids get a series of inoculations. Should this be withdrawn from them as they have not yet had time to study the possible ramifications of what they are taking?

    230. Ottomanboi says:

      Not caring either way I think St Greta and this guy really need to get a life.
      https://archive.ph/lGUan
      This self-righteous eco-religion of doom is seriously cultic and in common with wokery impenetrable to alternative reasoning.
      Be human, Live dangerously Greta! You might like it.

    231. Ruby says:

      Hatuey says:
      2 September, 2021 at 10:39 am
      “It’s good to watch your mind, fit in relaxation time & don’t sweat the small stuff.”

      Oh fuck. The anti-vaxxers are evolving into aromatherapists.

      Reply

      Hatuey rushing off to the pharamacy to pick up his prescription for valium!

    232. stuart mctavish says:

      Hatuey @11:18

      Vaccine passports will surely end any hope I retained of being able to return home but might still be entertaining to watch from a distance lest:

      (a) Any integrity is brought to the Holyrood debate on the matter (and, if so, by whom)
      and/or
      (b) Opposition parties (including Alba/ potential Alba) have enough courage to force the Green part of the Coalition into a position where a test of their integrity on minority (human) rights (ie children and other unvaccinated) is enough to force a vote of no confidence – and perhaps usher in a new parliament in which their newly acquired voice risks being instantly cancelled.

    233. Ian Brotherhood says:

      I apologise for using the ‘c’ word last night. Uncalled for.

      However, just listening to FMQs there, it’s clear that the vaccine passport will sail straight through parliament next week, no problem.

      Later today I’m hoping to go into the archives here, to get a wee reminder of how it felt in early 2020, when this was all starting.

      But before I do, I want to check with you here.

      Can you remember how the discussion was going here at the time? What we were all talking about before our lives were turned inside-out and upside-down?

      What we think we remember and what actually happened are often very different. Ask any cop who gathers eyewitness accounts from a crime/accident scene.

      My memory, FWIW, is that we were originally looking at a 3-week ‘lockdown’, and that in itself was enough to cause genuine anger.

      Will report back later. In the meantime, might be interesting to hear what others recall.

    234. Robert Hughes says:

      When speculation gets real

      Two weeks ago my partners sister died .

      Her brother has been experiencing strange , unpleasant sweats and discomforts for weeks which his doctor is unable to diagnose

      My partner herself suffered a * minor * heart attack one week ago . ( she’s ok , there appears to be no damage to her heart )

      Other than being siblings , what these three people had/have in common is they’ve received two doses of the vaccine in the last two months .

      Coincidence ? Maybe .

      The sister had a chronic asthma condition since her teens , likewise the brother has a chest condition , not chronic or long-established . My partner is in good health generally.

      Now it’s entirely likely the pre-existing condition of the sister was a major contributor to her death , likewise the symptoms her brother is experiencing , and possibly the shock and grief of losing her closest sister was a major factor in my partners heart-attack .

      The point though is they were all * strongly advised * to take the vaccines , with no notes of caution or an assessment of the possible side-effects , nor contra-indications for those with medical issues .

      Make of all this what you will . I’m not advocating the suspension of all Covid vaccines – though their efficacy as prophylactics is looking feebler by the day – or vaccines in general . Just maybe a bit more selective use and less hysteria about the absolute necessity of taking them

    235. Ruby says:

      This guy Hautey sounds like a totally ignorant **** ***!

      Whether you are an anti-vaxxer or a pro-vaxxer you will be 100% better off if you take steps to avoid stress.

      Not a good idea to get stressed catch an infection that requires antibiotics or the need to up your blood pressure meds or worse be hospitalised with Covid. Stress plays havoc with your immune system and can cause restricted breathing!

      Hautey believes avoiding stress by natural methods = aromatherapy.

    236. Fred says:

      David Caledonia 02 September 2021
      “Apart from getting the vaccine and wearing a mask to get on a bus and go to the shops or whatever my life carries on as normal”

      Fast forward a couple of years to…

      David Caledonia 02 September 2024
      “Apart from getting the vaccine booster for the fourth time this year and wearing a mask then attempting to get on a bus – to which i was refused when they scanned my digital passport because i didn’t have enough Social Credit points due to me jaywalking the previous day, and then going to the shops (having scanned my Digital Passport again) and being refused certain items because they were not deemed conducive to a healthy lifestyle because the system says my cholesterol count is too high this week – my life carries on as normal”

    237. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Latest (unconfirmed) from France –

      Macron has approved 7,000 vaccinations centres to be based in schools. From September, children will be jagged, with or without parental consent. And if the parents object, they can be fined 30,000 Euros and face up to two years in prison.

      https://twitter.com/CenturySeedz/status/1433392529920122884

    238. Dan says:

      What’s aw this pish with “Vaccine” Symptom Reducing Serum Jag Passports to allow access to certain places.
      A Passport that you’ve had a “Vaccine” Symptom Reducing Serum Jag months back does fuck all to prove you aren’t actually carrying and could therefore spread the virus at the present time.
      Why not actually test folk to see if they are in the large group of folk that are asymptomatic when they had the virus without knowing about it, and who would already have antibodies that would suppress virus transmission as much if not more than “Vaccinated” Symptom Reducing Serum Jagged folk.

      It’s either on the spot testing or a period of quarantine prior to admittance if you’re serious about controlling a viral spread. If that’s not possible then physical distancing and mask wearing were deemed sufficient in the past, although I’m disappointing the one way system in supermarkets was never re-implemented as I’d developed my moonwalking skills so I could traverse down isles the wrong way and confuse the virus.
      Who can mind the ol’ days when the vaccine knew what time it was and you were “safe” to do certain activities during certain time periods.

    239. Dan says:

      Doh! that’ll be : “…the ol’ days when the virus knew what time it was“…

    240. chas says:

      I did something unusual today. I watched FM Questions. Normally, when the Supreme Leader appears on TV, I immediately switch off or change channel.
      One thing puzzles me? When does the man with the bucket of herring appear to reward the performing seals who applaud the Supreme Leader at her every utterance.
      Does he arrive when the cameras are switched off?

    241. Captain Yossarian says:

      That’s the Holyrood fandango. The more lazy and obtuse they become, the louder they applaud themselves and each other. They used to do that in Nazi Germany too. We’ll soon all be able to hear the vapid, sand-dancing spoofs applaud themselves all the way from Holyrood without a TV or radio. Like you, I always look away. Holyrood just manages the steady decline of a once great country.

    242. Pixywine says:

      Don’t be surprised if Macron is lynched by the French people.

    243. Shocked says:

      @david Caledonia

      There is a reason Alba only got 1.6% in the election, I’m sure you can work it out, surely even someone as dim as you can join the dots between years of baseless smears against Alex Salmond by the New SNP and their poodles in the media and the fact that Alex Salmond is finished din politics.

      Until sturgeon is outed as a liar and kicked out of politics Alex Salmond is finished because until that happens the majority of the population will always take her word over his.

    244. Cenchos says:

      Part of the reason Alba got relatively few votes was simply that they were/are a very new party. They actually did very well for such a new party.

    245. Pixywine says:

      David Caledonia. Are you a crackhead? Why do you support the Evil Globalist “pandemic” narrative? Do you have any sense at all? Are you an idiot “journalist” like gfaetheblock?

    246. Ian Brotherhood says:

      The next time you hear John Beattie or Jason Leitch or anyone else banging on about how the hospitals are full of ‘mostly unvaccinated’ people, impress your friends by explaining what s simple trick they’re pulling.

      It’s clever aye, but why are they doing it?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPzJrah1U_o

    247. Pixywine says:

      Ruby at 8:28.Maybe the word you’re looking for is informer or perhaps stool pigeon.

    248. Shocked says:

      @cenchos

      Just you keep telling yourself that. Salmond is finished until he exposes sturgeon for what she really is. A book has just come out committing criminal offences and treating baseless allegations as fact. Outside of the Salmond bubble no one gives a damn as they all think Salmond is a dirty old man who got away with it.

    249. Al Dente says:

      The Times is published in England, not Scotland. As we have seen in the past in the context of superinjunctions granted by English courts, Scottish newspapers have been able to publish the suppressed information without risk of prosecution. It thus follows that whatever a compliant judge at a Scottish Volksgerichtshof does at the behest of the Scottish Führer will have no bearing whatseover in an English court.

    250. Ruby says:

      Pixywine says:
      2 September, 2021 at 2:22 pm
      Ruby at 8:28.Maybe the word you’re looking for is informer or perhaps stool pigeon.

      Reply

      Cheers Pixy!
      Perhaps rather than a ‘stool pigeon’ we could perhaps use the term ‘stool magpie’ 🙂

    251. Breeks says:

      Ottomanboi says:
      2 September, 2021 at 11:43 am
      Not caring either way I think St Greta and this guy really need to get a life.
      https://archive.ph/lGUan ….

      I thought the article was more about the BBC cutting and pasting what she said, so it sounded like she was slagging off Scotland. What’s newsworthy about that? Just the BBC being the BBC.

      One of the most interesting slants on all of this Cambo Oil field was actually from Alex Salmond, who wasn’t rushing into shut down Scotland’s oil industry, but instead put Scotland at the front of Carbon Capture technology.

      I don’t know whether that’s future-tech, or means hoovering great volumes of CO2 out the atmosphere directly, or something like Uber-catalytic converters developed and fitted to cars so the CO2 is captured at source or locked into stable molecules which don’t pollute the environment. But it sounded a lot more positive and switched on than Sturgeon aimlessly rambling on about a “four nation” approach to Scotland’s oil.

      Oil is very good on the whole. I use gallons of the stuff and so do you. It’s the oil pollution and harmful by-products which are the big problem, plus the fact damage has been done which needs reversed.

      Truth be told, I rather suspect we’ll require remedial works and diversification to reverse climate change across the whole spectrum, and realistically, the Greens and the Oil Industry need to be sitting down at the same table and talking to each other, because massive compromises will be needed.

      Scotland was in such good hands – before Sturgeon came along.

    252. John Main says:

      Hatuey – 2 September, 2021 at 11:18 am

      “The scientists now accept that immunity isn’t possible with covid, just as it isn’t possible with flu.”

      [ Long suffering sigh ]

      Naw, Hatuey, scientists are not saying that at all. The scientists are saying that permanent, i.e. life-long immunity, is not possible for either infection.

      If you catch flu, or are vaccinated, you have a good chance of having at least partial immunity for years, or even decades.

      If you catch Covid, or are vaccinated (or both), your immunity will be more short-lived, but still good for 6 months or more, perhaps a year if you had the “real deal”, i.e. the illness itself. Your immunity will be pretty good at the start, depending also on which one of the many vaccines you have received, but will then naturally tail off.

      With both diseases, the advent of viral mutations will mostly invalidate any immunity you already have.

      This stuff is too important to be posting pish about Hatuey. Why don’t you try a bit harder to get things right? Or just accept it is beyond your ken and leave it alone.

    253. John Main says:

      Breeks

      Carbon Capture is the process of catching the CO2 produced in large installations and piping it to a reservoir which can reasonably be expected to have a lifetime measured in geological terms.

      Thus the CO2 never gets into the atmosphere to add to AGW.

      Best (only?) reservoirs are those from which oil and gas have already been extracted. We can be confident these will last.

      Carbon Capture is only feasible for large-scale installations, i.e. power stations. Some skeptics doubt even that.

      There’s a hundred million dollar prize up for grabs if somebody gets it working cheaply and efficiently.

    254. Ottomanboi says:

      DavidCaledonia.
      What pharmaceutical companies exist for:
      https://archive.ph/aUq4o
      Loadza a dosh in bad health and medicalization.
      Drug testing.
      Africa’s a good place for that.
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6768799.stm
      https://archive.ph/69PzN
      It’s all good business practice!

    255. Breeks says:

      https://archive.is/zL34j

      Give me strength.

      ” Angus Robertson: Devolution under ‘systemic attack’ from UK Government”.

      Yes Angus, that was meant to your job. Remember the concept? Settling up not settling in?

      The man’s just another Wishart type Windbag.

    256. Scott says:

      They should train all the checkout workers and shelf-stackers as GPs, and all the GPs as checkout workers and shelf-stackers and lorry drivers.

      Vote for me.

    257. Breeks says:

      John Main says:
      2 September, 2021 at 2:56 pm

      ..There’s a hundred million dollar prize up for grabs if somebody gets it working cheaply and efficiently.

      Yes, but it sounded very much Alex Salmond was up for the challenge. I think I heard him saying that the Carbon Capture program at Peterhead was on his watch… And even that was meant to be a test bed for better progress and technological advances… But it needs heavy investment, now, and won’t get it from Westminster.

    258. Scott says:

      Planting hemp on a massive scale would help with atmospheric CO2.

      It would help soil quality too. And the water table…etc

    259. Ottomanboi says:

      Paradoxically JOHN MAIN, the covid vaxx has been touted as a cure. Many believe/d vaccination to be a golden bullet, the key to returning to «normal». The agents in the media have helped to foster that notion.
      Pharmaceutical companies have made no attempt to disabuse the public of that idea either. Too bad for trade.
      Now with revaxx and booster shots be huckstered the only ones smiling are the pharma shareholders aka stakeholders. The rest can go hang or live with their new underlying conditions.

    260. Breeks says:

      Scott says:
      2 September, 2021 at 3:05 pm
      Planting hemp on a massive scale would help with atmospheric CO2.

      They need to stop cutting down Rainforest because that’s a massive amount of Carbon locked up in it, but beyond that, I read once that contrary to what you might think, it’s temperate coniferous forests (like Scotland’s Great Caledonian Forest hint, hint), which can lock up huge amounts of CO2 because the pine softwoods grow so much faster than broadleaved hardwoods and you get more tonnage of Carbon taken out the atmosphere at a faster rate.

    261. Scott says:

      Re-forestation can take place alongside hemp production, which can be used as a replacement for many things, not just wood. (William Randolph Hearst can kiss my hole)

      Preparing barren land now seems to be a so-called ‘no-brainer’ [spuds are good at processing toxic soils]

      COP26 should be cancelled. Experts my arse.

    262. laukat says:

      Do you remember the posters that were ran in the last few general elections that ran in England and showed Alex Salmond with Ed Milliband in his pocket or Nicola Sturgeon with Jeremy Corbyn in her pocket?

      Anyone looked at running posters with a picture of Boris and Nicola in his pocket but running them in Scotland?

    263. Republicofscotland says:

      “Part of the reason Alba got relatively few votes was simply that they were/are a very new party.”

      Cenchos.

      Its more likely that the unionist media snubbed them entirely, and indeed the SNP, Lib/Dems, Labour, the Tories and the Greens, all threatened to not show up for the pre-election debates on TV if the Alba party got an invite.

      The Alba party will never get a fair share of airtime on unionist propaganda channels that pass for tv channels in Scotland, simply because the Alba party actually wants to see Scotland become independent.

    264. McDuff says:

      Sarah
      You are right to a point about media coverage but are you seriously suggesting the legal profession are ignorant as to the injustice perpetrated on Craig Murray or to the outrageous perjury committed at the AS trial? Journalists certainly know what has been going on and as for the rest, Indy supporters especially Wings will have spread the word about these outrages.
      I stand by my original post.

    265. Robert Graham says:

      Maybe a bit off Topic

      Topic being the Political Prisoner Craig Murray who was jailed for a Crime that’s just been invented a crime that has not seen the light of day in any jurisdiction in the western world , that’s right not one country has had the corrupt legal system by the throat the way Sturgeons has and supported and protected by a foreign government in order to suppress democracy and fool the electorate.

      The ones who are assisting and enabling this are the type who inhabits sites like WGD that attracts the stupidest people in Scotland , the ones who continually pronounce when we are free and when Indyref2 comes like it’s just a matter of time it’s just round the corner within touching distance , oh fk a lot of people are still as dumb as the day they were born .

      Boris isn’t the problem it’s fkn stupidity like this and people who blindly follow a liar like Sturgeon who is working against another Independence referendum and as for the nodding fkn dogs that sit behind her in the pretend parliament they just add to the problem , yes it’s a fake Parliament only allowed to convene at the behest of Westminster , Westminster could strangle and shut it tomorrow but they don’t need to it’s doing Westminsters work with gusto while pretending to support a free Scottland in order to fool the natives . I don’t think many people saw that manoeuvre coming .

    266. Captain Yossarian says:

      McDuff – the legal profession is self regulating in Scotland. The rules were made-up in around 2007 by a private sector lawyer who is now a multi-millionaire. His firm is excused from any regulatory investigation, hence it grows year on year and is now big and fat. Perhaps if more Scots were aware of that, the rest of us wouldn’t be living in such a shithole full of self-important and bent lawyers.

    267. Republicofscotland says:

      “Boris isn’t the problem it’s fkn stupidity like this and people who blindly follow a liar like Sturgeon who is working against another Independence referendum and as for the nodding fkn dogs that sit behind her in the pretend parliament they just add to the problem , yes it’s a fake Parliament only allowed to convene at the behest of Westminster”

      Robert Graham.

      Very true Robert, and lets not forget the gatekeepers in our educational and non governmental departments that are parachuted in from down South and block zealously any movement towards not just independence, but Scottish history and culture and language.

      Scotland is a corrupt bigoted wee country, that’s controlled by an FM who’s actively trying to keep the status quo intact, and many Scots apathetic in nature, towards freeing their country from this rancid union, either don’t care or they actively support the suppression of Scots and Scotland, in favour of a foreign country, only in Scotland does this utterly absurd situation continue and it has done for centuries.

      Only in Scotland is the entire media totally opposed to Scotland becoming an independent country, and that media is owned by foreign countries including England. Only in Scotland are political parties that are branch offices of English ones (a foreign country) vehemently opposed to the bettering of their constituents lives through Scottish independence, they prefer to look out for the foreign country’s interests over their own folks interests.

      Only in Scotland does a foreign country tell Scots who and who isn’t allowed into Scotland (why do you think Scotland has such a small population compared to that of England’s).

      Only in Scotland do we hand over our wealth including oil and gas, and in return we are given pocket money back.

      Yes Robert, unfortunately Scots are reaping just what they sow, they are getting what they deserve, and will continue to do so until they either wake up or Scotland becomes too weakened that it does eventually end up subsumed by England and it will really be called North Britain.

    268. Republicofscotland says:

      IPSO is a toothless captured body.

      “Cathcart’s main explanation is that IPSO, as the creature of the billionaire press, is there to “handle” complaints – in the sense of making them go away – rather than seriously hold the media to account or punish its transgressions.

      IPSO has never fined or sanctioned any of its member publications since it was created seven years ago by the owners of the corporate media to avoid the establishment of a proper regulatory body in the wake of the Levenson public inquiry into media abuses such as the phone hacking scandal.”

      “IPSO, led by Lord Edward Faulks, a former Conservative minister”

      https://www.globalresearch.ca/jewish-chronicle-libel-payouts-small-price-pay-smearing-corbyn-left/5754732

    269. Lochside says:

      Scott says:
      2 September, 2021 at 10:28 am
      David Caledonia says:
      2 September, 2021 at 8:45 am

      Be careful what you say LMAO at that comment

      The scots have been attacked for hundreds of years, even the fecking romans got a brickie called hadrian to build a wall, never worked and it never could work

      Yeah, it never worked…except it did.

      It was a trading route between the Solway & the Tyne, not a barrier. Similarly with the Antonine Wall linking the Cly
      ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

      A ‘trading route’? …Who are you?…Neil Oliver?
      The Romans had a ‘custom post’ of 10,000 men?…yer arse in parsley!

      As for Antonine’s wall…built further north at the narrowest point in the British Isles over 20 years later and abandoned within 8 x years by Romans driven out and back the undefeated Caledonian tribes.

      The English Historian phalanx of revisionists pathetic attempts to perpetrate this lie have ranged from one of ‘savages’ north of the wall to this latest meme ‘that Scotland wasn’t worth conquering’ and that Hadrians wall is ‘actually in England;….implying that the Geordies held the Romans back! A bit like Boadicea, the Brythonic ancient welsh speaking Celtic Queen who led native Celts insurrection …not the Anglo Saxon invaders of later centuries. Or Arthur of the Britons ( maybe mythical but certainly an almalgam of celtic warrior leaders).

      And don’t those Oxbridge imposters hate that reality!
      It’s all part of the writing out of Scotland the brave. Now aided and abetted by the degenerate tra*tors sitting in Holyfud.

    270. Scott says:

      Lochside says:
      2 September, 2021 at 7:45 pm

      A ‘trading route’?

      Of course they were. Supply & trade routes.

      [If I was Neil Oliver, my name wouldn’t be Scott]

    271. Lochside says:

      Tess White, with the grand total of 10.4% of the vote for Dundee West stood for and was accepted for election to the Scottish ‘Parliament’ and the first chance she gets to heckle Sturgeon, she bleats about the ‘English’ not being welcome in Scotland.

      Someone who was a v/President of Shell and on the board at Centrica and at the helm of an organisation involved in the theft of our oil. Someone who is English and represents an English fascist front for continuing colonial domination of our country. Yet there she is (why?), despite these previous powerful positions now lowering herself to disrupting the parochial pretendy talking shop by attacking the Brit’s best pal. How interesting! ironic and how very apt!…..We need more RUK like her to win over the other ‘New Scots’ ( who??) to supporting our struggle….don’t we??

    272. Lochside says:

      Scott… a trading route to where? Answer why Antonine’s wall was necessary and why it was destroyed and the Romans abandoned it?
      Maybe the locals didn’t like the goods on offer.

    273. John Main says:

      @Republicofscotland – 2 September, 2021 at 6:57 pm

      “Only in Scotland does a foreign country tell Scots who and who isn’t allowed into Scotland (why do you think Scotland has such a small population compared to that of England’s).”

      Steady on Republic. I can see you built up quite a head of steam writing your post, but in your rush, you have ended up including a positive alongside your negatives.

      First and foremost, this is a Pro-Indy site. It doesn’t matter whether you want New Scots to be numbered in the tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, or millions, rationalists know that this will just result in tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, or millions of additional No votes.

    274. Dan says:

      Breeks says: at 2:58 pm

      Yes Angus, that was meant to your job. Remember the concept? Settling up not settling in?

      The man’s just another Wishart type Windbag.

      I floated the question earlier asking just how much can one individual actually accomplish when they take on so many positions in different organisations, plus of course the no doubt significant time spent on their own secretive personal political manouverings…

      So there’s now concern about the Power Grab, woofuckinhoo, he’s only 20 months behind the curve of the likes of Colin Dunn aka Indyposterboy, who’s now taking a reluctant sabbatical because the likes of Angus and his cronies have done so fucking little to progress the Indy cause.

      https://indyposterboy.scot/the-power-grab/

      https://indyposterboy.scot/what-is-the-powergrab/

      Our local YES groups had much of Colin’s work on their street stalls. And I explicitly recall we held a Power Grab themed street stall in the High Street to raise public awareness about this significant issue.
      That was done by a local YES Group that got knocked back by the local SNP Constituency Offices when we suggested they tack on a one off one paragraph mention to SNP members in the monthly Constituency Association emails, letting them know about their local YES Group that they may wish to follow or get involved with.

    275. Scott says:

      Lochside says:
      2 September, 2021 at 8:24 pm

      Scott… a trading route to where?

      From Ireland to Europe via the Irish Sea, land, North Sea.

      Hadrian: Bowness-on-Solway to the Tyne and Wallsend to the Solway.

      Antonine: Clyde to Forth and Forth to Clyde (not to be confused with the canal)

      The soldiers needed supplied and ‘the loot’ needed moved. Don’t you know anything about logistics and conquering and tides and geography?

    276. Gfaetheblock says:

      Really nice info graphic from the Lancet for those involved in the ‘vaccines don’t work’ brouhaha of last night

      https://twitter.com/thelancet/status/1433195677610352644?s=21

    277. Republicofscotland says:

      “rationalists know that this will just result in tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, or millions of additional No votes.”

      John Main @8.26pm.

      John.

      Where did I say that I wanted millions of more immigrants to come to Scotland?

      I merely pointed out why there’s a huge disparity in population sizes between England and Scotland, and why it is.

      Its very clear to me on your position on Scottish independence, when you chose this particular sentence from my comment, rather than focusing on the multitude of negative points on why being in this union is detrimental to Scots and the wealth of Scotland.

    278. Pixywine says:

      One of my nephews fit non smoker teetotal in his 20s had his second jab yesterday. Today he is fucked up with sickness dioerhia splitting headache and a rash on his face. I hope it is not serious. I advised the laddie not to take the second shot a month or so ago he of course disregarded my warning. His choice but not a well informed choice.

    279. Pixywine says:

      I can’t spell the proper word for the runs. Help me Mammy.

    280. Dan says:

      @ Pixywine

      Keep it simple.

      The loon has the skitters.

      HTH

    281. Alf Baird says:

      “An inevitable reaction to racism and the colonizer’s xenophobia is that it becomes necessary to wait for the disappearance of colonization and the wounds it has left in the flesh of the colonized.” (Albert Memmi)

      So, us Scots await our liberation, and it will be joyful.

    282. Hatuey says:

      “So, us Scots await our liberation, and it will be joyful.”

      We shall overcome, Alf.

      I was at McDonald’s today sitting in the car park surrounded by seagulls. A few of them worked out how to get stuff from the bin and seemed to be eating quite well. Every now and then a little fight would break out over cold chips or whatever.

      Tragic really to see such fine creatures reduced to that. They have wings, they could go somewhere good and prosper I’m sure, but they choose to sit waiting for scraps from a bin in a car park.

      I wonder what the seagulls think of us.

    283. Roger says:

      Remember the Wi spa case in Las Angeles? When a group of women objected to a man with a semi-erection who identitifies as a woman was in the ladies changing room (which included young girls)? They protested and were vilified for it, were abuse and called biots, etc – it was even claimed he didn’t have his cock out and they were just picking on him cos he’s trans…well guess what? It turns out that he is a registered sex offender. Have any of those who accused the female victims of this creep of being ‘transphobis’ (as opposed to just sex-offender-naked-in-presence-of-little-girls-phobic) apologised? Have they fk…

      https://nypost.com/2021/09/02/charges-filed-against-sex-offender-in-wi-spa-casecharges-filed-against-sex-offender-in-notorious-wi-spa-incident/

    284. Alf Baird says:

      Hatuey @ 12:51 am

      “They have wings, they could go somewhere good and prosper I’m sure, but they choose to sit waiting for scraps from a bin in a car park.I wonder what the seagulls think of us.”

      Between 3 and 4 million Scots used their wings to escape the seagulls who have been pecking at us for over 300 years, stealing our food and shitting on us from above.

    285. Breeks says:

      https://archive.is/GkwCg

      SNP piss taking continues unabated…

      Summer Conference shortened to “Sum Con”.

    286. Breeks says:


      Hatuey says:
      3 September, 2021 at 12:51 am

      …I wonder what the seagulls think of us.

      The ones that eat sand eels don’t think much of us at all because they’re dead for the most part, or starving by the thousands after we hoovered the sea bed for their food supply, which I gather is processed for soil fertiliser.

      https://archive.is/fKyq2

      We should really look upon urban seagulls as refugees who fled inland because our policy towards their homeland was to plunder and destroy it with our trademark insatiable greed.

    287. Ruby says:

      Pixywine says:
      2 September, 2021 at 10:23 pm
      I advised the laddie not to take the second shot a month or so ago he of course disregarded my warning.

      Reply

      That’s quite a responsibility you’ve taken upon yourself Pixy!

      I can spell diarrhoea but I would never think of dispensing medical advice to family members other than what to do re diarrhoea.

      I am referring to the non-verbal type so sorry I’m unable to help you.

    288. Ruby says:

      I suspect Hautey will dismiss the following as some ‘hippy dippy new age mumbo jumbo’ as he likes the drugs the valium & the Kaolin and Morphine.

      A good cure for diarrhoea is bananas & yoghurt.

      You can eat the bananas & yoghurt even after the skitters have passed (take care not to overdose on them as you could end up constipated.) what you gonna to do with that half full bottle of Kaolin and Morphine?

      Sadly ‘bananas & yoghurt’ aren’t free whereas the ‘Kaolin and Morphine’ is!

    289. Dan says:

      Broadband is still a reserved power aye?

      If so, where is the funding for this work actually coming from when it states “Investment of £384 million through the @scotgov“, and not “from @scotgov“?

      https://twitter.com/scotgoveconomy/status/1433352111174135809

    290. John Main says:

      Republicofscotland – 2 September, 2021 at 9:11 pm

      “Where did I say that I wanted millions of more immigrants to come to Scotland?”

      You didn’t. You employed the Andy Ellis defence. There are no limits in your preferred immigration policy, but you dare not state that openly.

      “I merely pointed out why there’s a huge disparity in population sizes between England and Scotland, and why it is.”

      No, you didn’t. Anybody already in England is free to come to Scotland. By and large, they don’t. Your original comment about a foreign country setting Scotland’s immigration policy can only be interpreted as you wanting Scotland to be able to attract immigrants, free from WM limitations. Ergo, these can’t be immigrants from south of the border.

      Don’t try to weasel out, Republic. You want Scotland to have an open borders policy. Fine, but that is not consistent with a Pro-Indy stance, because such a policy will ensure Indy never happens.

      “Its very clear to me on your position on Scottish independence, when you chose this particular sentence from my comment, rather than focusing on the multitude of negative points on why being in this union is detrimental to Scots and the wealth of Scotland.”

      It’s very clear to me why I focus on this aspect of your post. It’s because it’s juvenile, irrational, and counter to the rest of what you wrote.

    291. Robert Hughes says:

      ” SNP piss taking continues unabated…

      Summer Conference shortened to “Sum Con”.”

      Of course they’ll use the incredible ( literally ), elastic definition of * Pandemic * to delay , defer , do-away-with any silly talk about Independence until Scotland is fully transitioned into the woke World State Shangri La of Nickers n PJs Harvie’s infantile wish-fulfilment fantasies .

      By which time support for Independence among ” ordinary ” people will have evaporated like oil revenues, ” Ring Fenced ” Campaign funds and Scottish autonomy

    292. David Caledonia says:

      Pharmas are the same as every other company, they have to make a profit, buy a carpet from us and get free fitting, yes buy a carpet from someone else and go back and ask them to fit it for free, you will be told to sling your hook lol
      Anyway, it is not in the interests of any company to endanger their customers health, ill or dead customers don’t go shopping at least dead one’s don’t in my experience.
      And as for anyone’s nephew getting ill from a wee jab, this can happen and it does in a very small number of cases.
      As I have said before and I will point it out once again for the hard of thinking.
      Beetween 50 and 100 million people died from the so called spanish flu, even wars don’t kill that amount of people, there was no cure, no vaccine to protect you in those days
      American troops going on a sailing trip to france where being put over the side at a rate of 400 men per ship because of the flu, which began in america btw.
      The american troops brung it into europe from the good old usa, no trans/atlantic flights in those days, all you had to do in those days was wait for a war to start and you automatically got a free trip over the ocean to the somme and oblivion.
      The moral of this story, never go on a free trip, if its free there has to be a catch in the small print

      You get nothing for free this side of the grave

    293. Republicofscotland says:

      Sturgeon and Angus Robertson at it again Sturgeon bemoaning the effects of Brexit and blaming the Tories, when we could’ve held an indyref and been shot of this odious union for good. Meanwhile Robertson is complaining that the Internal Market bill will undermine devolution, do these two have no shame whatsoever, I think not.

      All they want to do is finger point, and say we’re where we are because of Westminster, when in reality we are where we are because of these two, and others in the SNP government have taken us here.

    294. Scott says:

      David Caledonia says:
      3 September, 2021 at 9:28 am

      Pharmas are the same as every other company, they have to make a profit, buy a carpet from us and get free fitting, yes buy a carpet from someone else and go back and ask them to fit it for free, you will be told to sling your hook lol

      Anyway, it is not in the interests of any company to endanger their customers health

      Yeah, OxyContin was Mike Oldfield’s demo tape…

    295. Hatuey says:

      And sadly, RoS, we’ve got about 10 years of theatrics like that and steady decline before the deception is widely understood and trust completely collapses.

      We talk about what happened with Labour in Scotland as if it was a terrible thing. From a politician’s perspective it was a marvellous thing; they conned the voters for decades before they got rumbled. That’s years and years of highly lucrative jobs and influence.

      Note that Labour didn’t ever stop using the language of socialist utopian dreams; even after it became obvious to everybody that they were just a bunch of tories that didn’t give a fuck about the poor and working classes. The SNP are doing the same with the independence pitch.

      As for the seagulls hanging around in the car parks and what they’d think of us, I think they’d have every right to feel quite insulted by our presumed superiority. The people of Scotland have been reduced to living in a very similar way.

      Have a nice day.

    296. Ian Brotherhood says:

      Powerful stuff here, from Irish doctors appealing directly to parents re ‘the jag’.

      https://www.bitchute.com/video/femLN8is07DR/

    297. chas says:

      The Supreme Leader was apparently upset yesterday about something a Tory lady said. I understand the lady apologised.
      Is the Supreme Leader aware that she/her/herself upsets millions of Scots every time she speaks? I have yet to hear the Supreme Leader apologising for anything she has said or done in her political career. I don’t think I ever will!

    298. Breeks says:

      Ok, I confess, with all that’s going on, I giggled at this maybe more than I should have.

      Does it make me a bad person?

      https://twitter.com/Iearnhistory/status/1433629138812735489

    299. Hatuey says:

      The argument for vaccinating kids in a nutshell;

      “A recent analysis from the CDC also estimated that for every million second dose vaccinations of children aged 12-17 over 120 days, there are somewhere between 64 and 79 cases of myocarditis. But these vaccinations prevent an estimated 14,200 cases of Covid-19, which would normally result in 398 hospitalisations, 109 intensive care admissions, and 3 deaths.”

      There are other reasons too. Something like 24% of kids that catch covid suffer from ‘long covid’. And then you also need to factor in the propensity of kids to mingle and spread the disease.

      “Out of 518 children aged between zero and 18, who tested positive for Covid-19, they found that 24.3 per cent were still suffering from persistent symptoms ranging from fatigue to allergic reactions, some five months later, with 12-18 year olds proving particularly vulnerable…”

      https://www.wired.co.uk/article/covid-19-vaccination-children

      While I’m still against vaccinating kids, I remain in favour of balanced informed debate.

    300. Ruby says:

      Breeks says:
      3 September, 2021 at 11:02 am
      Ok, I confess, with all that’s going on, I giggled at this maybe more than I should have.

      Does it make me a bad person?

      https://twitter.com/Iearnhistory/status/1433629138812735489

      Reply

      I wasn’t thinking of the head on top of the shoulders.

      Does that make me a bad person with a dirty mind?

    301. Ottomanboi says:

      Big Pharma, medics, «sweeteners» and lies.
      https://www.drugwatch.com/news/2012/01/18/pharmaceutical-companies-bribing-doctors/
      https://archive.ph/m7969
      Of course, it couldn’t happen among our lot hiding in their virtual surgeries.
      https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/07/12/dr-hilary-dangerous-lies-and-big-pharma-ties/
      Next time an expert pontificates give a knowing smile.
      https://archive.ph/zH1z2
      Next time you think you need a GP…..think again.
      He/she/they may be just another opportunistic wee prick.

    302. Breeks says:

      https://www.barrheadboy.com/the-neverendum/

      Print this off and hand it to a Sturgeon Acolyte to see whether they spontaneously combust or not.

      You’ll probably have to wake them up first mind…

    303. robbo says:

      Oh hell

      She can pick her pals right enough. As I’ve said b4 this looney is sabotaging us at every turn.

      https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/he-needs-to-be-deported-concerns-over-taliban-supporter-helping-afghan-refugees/ar-AAO2S5x?ocid=msedgntp

    304. Ottomanboi says:

      Nemo me impune lacessit.
      https://archive.ph/GkwCg
      Who’s Queen, or just who do you think you are?

    305. Republicofscotland says:

      Its interesting to note that England football players suffered racial abuse in Hungary last night, that back home in England they also suffered abuse from their own fans for taking the knee.

    306. Breeks says:

      robbo says:
      3 September, 2021 at 12:33 pm
      Oh hell

      She can pick her pals right enough. As I’ve said b4 this looney is sabotaging us at every turn.…

      You don’t mean there’s something wrong with the SNP’s vetting do you robbo?

      With the possible exception of Pete Wishart, I cannot think of anybody less suitable, and who’d be a bigger liability to the cause of Scottish Independence than Sturgeon.

      Where we are now, with all the toxic shite and blood letting yet to come, and where Scotland might have been under somebody else’s leadership, is literally break-down-in-tears heartbreaking.

      In years to come, I can just envisage the pawns who sold Scotland down the river being exposed through their OBE’s and Knighthoods, appearing on BBC chat shows to ridicule the dumb fucks at the SNP that, even as late as 2021, after 7 years of transparent wilful subversion, there were still hordes of SNP acolytes too gullible and stupid to see right through Sturgeon’s gaslighting t(reachery).

    307. Republicofscotland says:

      Ottomanboi.

      I’m not surprised the demand for an indyref date has been rejected, by the SNP hierarchy, as has any debate surrounding it at the next conference, Sturgeon has only created the illusion that an indyref will be held, any real talk at the up and coming SNP conference on independence just wouldn’t do.

    308. Lochside says:

      Scott says 9.06pm

      ‘From Ireland to Europe via the Irish Sea, land, North Sea.

      Hadrian: Bowness-on-Solway to the Tyne and Wallsend to the Solway.

      Antonine: Clyde to Forth and Forth to Clyde (not to be confused with the canal)

      The soldiers needed supplied and ‘the loot’ needed moved. Don’t you know anything about logistics and conquering and tides and geography?’/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

      You are an obvious troll or not very bright, or probably both. Trolls never answer the questions posed, as you have demonstrated yet again.
      Military Walls are not ‘trade routes’. Hadrian’s wall was designed for military purposes with mile forts and roads between for quick military responses to attack. Antonine’s wall was a straight forward defensive wall made of turf and stone pallisades.

      Ireland, for your information was never conquered nor did the Romans make any serious attempts to conquer it, having had their arses skelped against the Picts and Caledonians. As for tides and geography, no doubt as an English squaddie you would struggle to find your way out of the naffi.

      Go back to your Neil Oliver bumper book on ‘How to misrepresent Scotland as shite’. It’s relatively cheap: 30 pieces of silver.
      And don’t come on here spouting Britnat lies.

    309. Nally Anders says:

      For those interested.
      With over 400 women, men and the odd baby, yesterday’s demo at Holyrood supporting retention of single sex spaces and anti Self ID GRA reform.
      Sturgeon and Harvie were indeed booed at the mention of their names and in an even more bizarre twist, half a dozen Tory MSP’s came amongst us, listened to some speeches and engaged with some of the crowd. Jackson Carlaw WTF ?
      On the other hand some tweets from SNP politians labelled us (inevitably) a hate group.
      If you’ve got 50 minutes to spare (or suffering from insomnia tonight) have a listen and make your own mind up.
      Sturgeon says Self ID will not impact on womens rights. Utter pish, tell that to the women already serving jail time alongside men in the female prison estate.
      https://www.facebook.com/311654993038848/posts/918913105646364/?sfnsn=scwspmo

    310. Nally Anders says:

      Oops meant to add ‘great success’ at end of first sentence,
      Sorry folks.

    311. stuart mctavish says:

      Hatuey @11:07

      Just looked up myocarditis and it has a mortality rate of 25-56% within 3-10 years from fist diagnosis so if your synopsis is correct then even by its own publicity the CDC appears willing to swap up to 1000* years of full life potential for every year of confinement they hope to offer the average person saved from covid.

      This in turn raises an interesting question as to whether the good Dr Fauci might be either shite at math or a functioning psycopath – and a potentially even more interesting follow up about how often he, and others in similar positions, get tested for same and the ease, prior to adoption of any vaccine passport principles, with which such tests (and the score of the employee in question) can be made available for public scrutiny or, hateful intent notwithstanding, public ridicule..

      *[(75 myocardis cases/3covid deaths saved) x 56% chance of child’s death within 5 years x appox 70 residual years each child might otherwise have lived compared with average age at death with covid being within about a year of average age at death period].

    312. Ruby says:

      Breeks says:

      after 7 years of transparent wilful subversion, there were still hordes of SNP acolytes too gullible and stupid to see right through Sturgeon’s gaslighting t(reachery).

      Reply
      They might need help to break away from ‘The Magpie Cult’. This book could be useful:

      https://tinyurl.com/4mad8sz8

      Watch out for these “Magpie Spies’ they are watching and ready to report you to the authorities. I spotted a couple on here.

    313. Ruby says:

      Nally Anders says:
      3 September, 2021 at 1:42 pm
      For those interested.

      Reply

      Thank you I’m interested. I’m off to listen to ‘Woman’s Hour’ and I’ll be back later to watch the rest.

      She/Her is a cult member & so is Harvie. No way to get through to them.

    314. Ruby says:

      I like this woman Fran Lebowitz she says racism is a total fantasy.

      I’ll get back to that later.

    315. Pixywine says:

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zyesHmwjWkc
      Children displaying intelligence and spirit.

    316. Robert Graham says:

      Breeks agreed a excellent piece by Barrheadboy pulling no punches
      what’s concerning is the lack of any fight in the SNP membership , I gave up my long standing support and for the first time in my adult life I couldn’t bring myself to vote for them while Sturgeon was the leader it would be endorsing and agreeing with what she and her inner circle have done to this party .
      For some reason she’s even convinced the English electorate that she means business but if you scratch the surface it’s exactly the opposite she has the crown of the great pretender she’s a total fraud and anyone who believes she is not being protected by the establishment needs their head looked at even the staunchest followers must see something is very very wrong .

    317. Geoff Anderson says:

      Nicola tells her loyal clique to change Party rules to see if anyone speaks up. Nobody does.

      After a while, she orders her clique to start doing Pronoun check usage by the members on social media, yet again she hears no complaints.

      The tyrant somewhat amused and growing in confidence, orders her clique to check HQ staff coming in and going for correct thought, and even yet there are no complaints.

      Out of spite, she now tells her loyal Police Scotland guard to set up checkpoints to slap people on the face then arrest them as they enter or leave the city. The entrance and exit roads are always congested, then one day one loyal SNP member has had enough and goes ballistic.

      The tyrant Nicola summons the angry man before her and asks him what the problem is. The man says: “Please, for god’s sake at least put two guards at a time so they can slap us faster and reduce the waiting time!”

      If you are waiting for the NuSNP membership to save our Nation then you are going to be disappointed!

    318. Pixywine says:

      Lochside. Ireland did not need to be conquered in order to do business with Roman Britain. It is also not beyond the bounds of possibility that Hadrians Wall functioned partly to control and tax goods being brought into the Empire. The Roman occupation of Southern Scotland may have lasted a little longer than we think but only by 20 or 30 years. The Wall would have been a busy place with people growing up in the townships that grew up outside the walls of the various forts Vindolanda being a striking example althouhj I would recommend Aesica to the interested tourist. You can see the ghostly outline of the Fort under the turf.

    319. Pixywine says:

      I believe the people of Lothian were described as Romans in the Mabinogian.

    320. Ruby says:

      I ain’t no Trinny or Susannah not even a Gok Wan but I do question why someone who spends megabucks on ‘Haute Couture/Designer gear’ has a safety pin holding her dress together and why she doesn’t invest in a decent ‘soutien- gorge’ and a pair of spanx.

    321. Robert Graham says:

      Way off topic

      Watching the Secret City for the second time because new stuff is pretty rubbish on Netflix and Amazon Prime it was first aired in 2016 and more or less followed a unbelievable story line and very far fetched at the Time that it must have been a bit strange and off the wall .

      Well surprisingly most of the far fetched plot is actually coming true the Australian government are in the process of setting up a Police State and the Police Force because that’s what it’s become are Arresting people for walking about outside without a mask no warning just arrests and physical abuse and assault I never realised Australia had so many Cops and not just normal ones these ones are geared up for warfare they are using over the top force to make everyone comply with their instructions not requests these are Barked Instructions .

      And all this to protect people’s health !

      The World has gone over the edge due to fear and batshitt crazy loonies have taken control and the compliant media are remaining quite people are seeing what Governments want them to see and being prevented access to what is actually happening to keep them subdued and quiet .

    322. Ruby says:

      Robert Graham says:
      3 September, 2021 at 3:10 pm
      Way off topic I never realised Australia had so many Cops

      Reply
      What makes you think you are off topic? Weird.

      How many prison does Australia have. What would happen if half the population was in jail?

      Nobody paying taxes – no money to pay police.
      The solution lies with the Australians people.

    323. Gordon Hastie says:

      It will clearly take weeks to get books to the prison library and, one hopes, Craig. In my naivety I thought I could take books to HMP Edinburgh, but I phoned just to make sure, and it’s more complicated (unsurprisingly). If anyone has discovered a “short-cut” please let us know. In the meantime I have to write a letter to two individuals at the covid hub. How long they take to answer is anyone’s guess. The alternative is to buy books on Amazon and have them sent to HMP (with fingers crossed).

    324. Breeks says:

      Robert Graham says:
      3 September, 2021 at 3:10 pm

      Well surprisingly most of the far fetched plot is actually coming true the Australian government are in the process of setting up a Police State and the Police Force because that’s what it’s become are Arresting people for walking about outside without a mask no warning just arrests and physical abuse and assault…

      Gotta wonder how the native Aboriginals are putting all that into perspective…

      I know nothing about Australia, not the first thing, but watching the Aussie Gold Hunters / Opal Minors / Bush Truckers etc… can’t put my finger on it, but it seems an unhappy place somehow. One minute it’s the lawless frontier, the next they’re held up mining because their permits not come through.

      Strikes me as mental they way they just dig mines or scrapes looking for gold or gems and you seem to keep whatever you find for the cash it’s worth.

      It’s hard to decide if you’re watching exciting opportunity, or 19th Century colonial “help-yourself-ness” in the raw. Some of the old mine workings left behind look like a moonscape. It’s still wilderness, but wilderness that been sieved through for it’s shiny bits.

    325. Republicofscotland says:

      Breeks @11.33am.

      I have to agree with Barrhead Boy when he says that he doesn’t want Sturgeon to hold an indyref, that she’s incapable of holding it and winning it, that she’s not the right person as FM to do so.

      I also agree with him that an election as a plebiscite (the next one 23/24) should be the way forward.

      My opinion is that Sturgeon is so anti-Scottish independence that she’d organise a half-arsed indyref and we’d lose it, just what she’d want. No lets go with the plebiscite come 2023/2024 GE election.

      My personal choice would be to oust Sturgeon replace her with someone who wants to see an independent Scotland, call back our MP’s from Westminster hold a vote in the Holyrood chamber on independence, if yes win declare independence there and then, negotiate with Westminster on dissolving the union via terms.

    326. Breeks says:


      Republicofscotland says:
      3 September, 2021 at 4:38 pm

      I also agree with him that an election as a plebiscite (the next one 23/24) should be the way forward.

      That’s the only light I see on the Horizon to be honest.

      I think a Plebiscite Election taken from a UK General Election might, repeat might, alleviate concerns about franchise votes for incomers, but potentially too, being a Westminster Election, the Unionist vote can’t really boycott it, and a clever ALBA / YES Campaign strategy could do a lot to minimise the roll of Holyrood and Sturgeon’s Vichy / TRANS Assembly, and grab onto Scottish Constitutional arguments with both hands and hold on to them for dear life…

      Don’t forget, a General Election will be first past the post too… Pro Indy majority of seats and Scotland is on it’s way.

      I hope that’s the strategy with ALBA is going to focus on, and hope the “sensible” SNP readership and faithful, that is the true Indy supporters left in the SNP, have the good sense and grace to play the smart money game and let ALBA it’s stuff and all the heavy lifting in relative peace, and start beating the drums and raising the standards for a Scottish Constitutional renaissance and Plebiscite Election on Independence.

      It’s doable.

      It’s winnable.

      But so much depends on the damage done to us by Sturgeon’s absurd stupidity and the enemies she has created within our ranks.

      All these Pete Wishart whiners need to shut their traps and stop slagging off ALBA and recognise ALBA is the wolf we need to be feeding.

    327. Republicofscotland says:

      Breeks.

      Its very doable and winnable, by 2023/24, those who thought sturgeon would hold an indyref will be disillusioned by the and the SNP, and will vote for the Alba party.

      I think Sturgeon only has until autumn 2023 to hold the indyref, if not then there won’t be one, surely the penny will drop for the masses and many will vote for the alba party seriously damaging the SNP. Sturgeon must know this, so what is her modus operandi over the next two years?

    328. @Gordon Hastie 4.10pm
      I ordered some books from The Guardian online bookshop last Friday afternoon and paid for special delivery. The consignment was delivered by 10.30 am on Saturday morning by Royal Mail. There was a message to say that no signature was needed.
      So I know that the books were accepted by the prison, but I don’t know whether Craig was ever informed, and what the procedure is for him to get access to them in the prison library.
      Given the extreme callousness with which he is being treated by the prison authorities, I would not put it past them not to inform Craig that these books had arrived. I have proof from the Royal Mail that they were delivered and were accepted. Their ultimate fate I do not know.

    329. Ruby says:

      I don’t think anything is off topic here. We’re now talking about Australia.

      I know very little about Australia. I watched ‘Rabbit Proof Fence’ a very powerful & moving film, I’ve read a couple of novels by ‘Colleen McCullough’ her best know novel being ‘The Thorn Birds’. Everyone probably knows that one. It was adapted to a TV series in the 80’s

      I also know ‘Savage Garden’ I ‘Truly Madly Deeply’ like them.

      On the other hand I could tell you the names of 100s of American films, novels & singers.

    330. sarah says:

      @ Margaret Eleftheriou: I emailed, and wrote a letter, to Craig telling him the details of the book I had sent so he can ask for it if the library doesn’t inform him.

    331. twathater says:

      When scrolling down the Nikla fanzine for the latest HERE COMES INDY photo promotion you come across a section devoted to PayPal Paul who is, according to the fanzine a (man/he/it/other) whatever who has his finger on the pulse of indy and who will give you an EXCLUSIVE ANALYSIS you won’t find anywhere else

      COULD that maybe be because that analysis is a load of pish and he writes the same thing but moves the words about

      However in the interest of saving people’s time and energy I will condense PayPal pauls analysis , it is ,
      Boris BAD , Tories BAD , NIKLA GREAT

    332. Ruby says:

      twathater says:
      3 September, 2021 at 5:27 pm
      When scrolling down the Nikla fanzine for the latest HERE COMES INDY photo promotion

      Reply
      Did she have a safety pin holding her dress together on that photo promotion? Still braless & spanxless?

      I might check out what ‘The Magpie Cultists’ are saying just to see if there was been any glimmer of a breakthrough!

    333. Ruby says:

      Nally Anders says:
      3 September, 2021 at 1:42 pm
      For those interested.

      Reply

      Thanks for the link to Women’s Hour & introduction to ‘Fran Lebowitz’ she’s great.

      I am in total agreement with everyone being said at the protest and I 100% agree that

      ‘Women shouldn’t wheest’

      That is an excellent & very catchy slogan. It’s been going through my head since I heard it yesterday.

      I loved the big smile that came across Susan Dalgetty’s face when she started the ‘Women won’t wheest’ chant!

      Sadly it’s going to take more than a slogan to get ‘The Magpie Cult’ to listen.

    334. J.o.e says:

      If I were a Unionist i’d be trying to use the fact that paypal Paul still has any kind of following as proof that Scots don’t have the faculties to govern themselves.

      I have found it to be like some kind of blogging equivalent of Newsround

    335. Ruby says:

      https://tinyurl.com/3cw5fa5c

      This is the dress that has the safety pin holding it together and she wears it a lot.

    336. twathater says:

      Breeks and ROS I am not a member of any political party and have no desire to be , but it is up to the membership of any organisation to FORCE the direction of that organisation ,it is NOT the management who should be directing and stating the route .
      SURELY that is what has destroyed our faith in the SNP being the party of independence because Sturgeon has manipulated and FORCED compliance rather than the membership DIRECTING HER

      TBQH I am sick of politicians telling us what to do , it is time they were TOLD the direction of travel , the membership should NOT be sitting around HOPING that Alex and his team will favour a plebiscite election , they should be insisting and telling the management that is what will be the stated condition of fighting EVERY election from now on , every election that ALBA contests ,if they win it is a permanent manifesto promise to declare independence , no ifs no buts ,and if anyone votes for ALBA they are voting for them under those conditions which are legally stated
      In the coming ALBA conference the membership should ensure that promise is written into the constitution and cannot be removed unless the whole membership agrees

    337. Republicofscotland says:

      Twathater.

      The problem is that the vast majority of the membership still believe in Sturgeon, and that she’ll hold an indyref.

      But time is a against her I think, for in my opinion she has until Autumn 2023 to hold an indyref, the following year there’s a GE, and if she’s not held it by then, I also think her party will suffer at the polls in the GE.

    338. Republicofscotland says:

      Marvel has rolled some great super heroes in the past, Spiderman, Captain America and the Hulk for instance, now Marvel has rolled two new super heroes in non-binary Safespaces and Snowflake.

      https://www.rt.com/usa/483376-marvel-snowflake-safespace-comic-heroes/

    339. twathater says:

      ROS I was actually not talking about Sturgeon, as far as I’m concerned she is a t raitor and as such should be jailed

      I was talking about Alex Salmond ALBA and any other independence forming party , this is NOT about politicians this is about SCOTLAND . The membership of ANY indy party should NOT fall into the cult of CELEBRITY politics it is one thing respecting the aims and values accomplished by those politicians but look at Sturgeon’s apologists and sycophants who give her accolades when she has FAILED Scotland abysmally

      WE MUST not fall into that trap , politicians must know we are in charge

    340. Captain Yossarian says:

      Prior to Holyrood, the NHS waiting list was 85,000. It is now 600,000 and was 450,000 before the pandemic.

      We have had the same precipitous drop in educational standards and our legal profession is no more than an international laughing stock. It is run by a clique of celebrity trial judges akin to the Wild West.

      I think folk should think long and hard about whether or not they actually want a continuation of service at Holyrood?

      This is not directed only at Nationalists as the others are just as bad.

    341. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Geoff Anderson 2.44 and twathater, RoS: strangely enough , I came across a quotation today in an essay about the mysterious and untimely death of Vince Foster, one of Clinton’s legal advisers, which is particularly fitting, it seems to me, for The Leaderene and her conduct towards Alex Salmond:

      “That hatred springs more from self-contempt than from a legitimate grievance is seen in the intimate connection between hatred and a guilty conscience.

      “There is perhaps no surer way of infecting ourselves with virulent hatred toward a person than by doing him a grave injustice. That others have a just grievance against us is a more potent reason for hating them than that we have a just grievance against them. We do not make people humble and meek when we show them their guilt and cause them to be ashamed of themselves. We are more likely to stir their arrogance and rouse in them a reckless aggressiveness. Self-righteousness is a loud din raised to drown the voice of guilt within us.”

      Eric Hoffer, American philosopher.

      Of course, this is a general observation on human nature and can fit other contemporary situations too 😉 .

    342. Republicofscotland says:

      “WE MUST not fall into that trap , politicians must know we are in charge”

      Fair enough Twathater, but how do you propose we go about the above, sure the people of Scotland are sovereign, but unfortunately we elected Sturgeon and her political clique to do our bidding of which they aren’t doing.

      So what’s the plan?

    343. Republicofscotland says:

      “Of course, this is a general observation on human nature and can fit other contemporary situations too”

      Tinto Chiel, such as the US POTUS Joe Biden, saying on the hasty retreat from Afghanistan, we will not forgive or forget, we will hunt you down.

      Well Sturgeon tried to hunt down Alex Salmond, but failed, she also tried to hunt down Mark Hirst, and failed, she currently hunting down Marion Millar, and she hunted down with success Craig Murray.

    344. @Captain Yossarian,

      you have just summed up why we desperately need Independence and sooner rather than later.

    345. Tinto Chiel says:

      @RoS: yes, Sleepy Joe seems to have forgotten that US dollars were poured into the Taliban’s (and others’) coffers when they were fighting the Soviets. I think it’s called the boomerang effect.

    346. Robert Graham says:

      A wee riddle or maybe a corundum for all you intelligent people .

      Question ? When is a person who’s been vaccinated Twice now not being recognised or recorded as being fully vaccinated ? or perhaps where is the more appropriate Question .

      Answer the good old reliable USA , the CDC in the States has altered its definition of Fully Vaccinated people , it has changed the way it records information on Hospital admissions anyone
      that has been jabbed 2 weeks or less before admission is deemed unvaccinated , anyone jabbed once is again deemed unvaccinated also anyone with the magic number 3 Jab , that’s the full house they will only be recorded as fully vaccinated if it’s over 14 days since being jabbed otherwise everyone is not recorded as fully vaccinated , so given the appropriate time lapse between doses 1-2-3 you are talking weeks a person can be termed unvaccinated according to their methods , nice wee numbers trick eh , all meant to confuse the gullible public.

      Oh by the way two senior figures in the CDC have just resigned that’s just after the latest speed of light approval of the latest version of the magic serum that the manufacturer still has to fully list the ingredients accompanied by a product testing verification failure to comply is a criminal offence .

    347. Nally Anders says:

      Hi Ruby
      Copy of speeches heading towards all my MSP’s and councillors via ‘They work for you’ website. Single email to write and that will do the trick.
      What was interesting re:the Tories was they hadn’t a clue about the actual issues. Time for everyone in the Holyrood political bubble to wake up.
      Half the problem, male- therefore Self ID doesn’t bother them.
      To be honest, the prison situation utterly infuriates me. How the fuck can they say self ID will make no difference to women’s
      rights, they must think we button up the back.

    348. Tinto Chiel says:

      @Robert Graham 7.55: I think Ian Brotherhood was making the same point earlier on this thread…….

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPzJrah1U_o

      If everything is above board or “kosher” as my GP bizarrely described things, why are they pochling statistics so perversely?

    349. Dan says:

      @ Robert Graham at 7.55pm

      She / her will no doubt implement a ridiculously complex level system to determine “vaccination” status.
      These Levels will be based on constantly influx parameters due to the variance in serum brand quality, and their respective deteriorations in symptom reducing efficacy over protracted time frames, with the resultant effects that has on and amongst different demographic groups.

      The range will be from Level Zero to Level 41, because one more jag would mean folk would be immune and no longer hear the music of a once popular Jazz/ Funk band with Mark King’s bass rifts.
      In the forthcoming years, a special extra level will be created for the masochistic “vaccine” enthusiasts.
      This will be known as Level Tetley, because individuals in this zone will have more holes in their arms than a teabag.

    350. Pixywine says:

      Ruby. I gave my nephew advice not an order.

    351. Hatuey says:

      Stuart mctavish,

      Your argument isn’t as powerful as it might be. If you take the median on each side of the equation — 41% fatality on one hand, 71 cases of myocarditis on the other, giving you a total of let’s say 30 deaths per million as a consequence of double vaccination, it doesn’t compare well to the 3 deaths suggested in the unvaccinated cohort.

      In essence, those numbers suggest children in that age group are ten times more likely to die if they are double vaccinated than they would be otherwise (completely unvaccinated).

      Of course, it’s not that simple. Delta changed everything statistically speaking, because it’s much more infectious. Without vaccination and without social distancing, the number of kids catching covid is going to rise dramatically above the levels found in the CDC study.

      The modelling when you factor in delta leads very quickly to everyone in a non-socially-restricted-society catching this. Over the next two winters, it’s basically a done deal.

      With sterilising immunity levels amongst the fully vaccinated at around 50% and falling all the time, it’s clear to me that we are looking at a long hard winter without more restrictions. UK a scientists seems to think it’s probably better to let us all catch it than to press ahead with booster shots and today’s announcement on 12-15 year olds fits right in with that.

    352. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Tinto Chiel, Robert Graham –

      The JCVI statement today certainly seems to have set the cat amongst the proverbials.

      Jason Leitch reached hitherto unknown pitches of nasal droning on BBC Radio Scotland’s ‘Drivetime’; trying not to sound as pissed-off about it all as the presenter clearly expected him to be. But when invited to suggest that all hope is not lost, that 12-15yr olds may yet be given ‘the jag’, he sounded pretty upbeat.

      He knows it’ll go ahead. It’s just another wee ‘bump in the road’.

      People opposed to having children injected with experimental gene therapy tried to break into the Canary Wharf offices of the MHRA today. Rebuffed by panicky cops, they then boarded the tube and made their way to South Kensington. Their exit from the tube was blocked by cops and very nearly led to a crush. Batons, arrests etc, the usual, then a prolonged period of cat-and-mouse chasing ending in kettling.

      How much of that appeared on msm?

      No idea, cause I don’t watch it, but not a peep on the radio.

      While the kettling was ongoing and folk were waiting for fellow protestors to be released, some interesting conversations with the cops were broadcast live. One was a youngish ex-military guy wearing a red beret (sorry, I don’t know the significance) telling a mature police officer, at length, about how he and ‘hundreds’ of colleagues are ready to take it all to another level if the jagging of children goes ahead. He was quite calm about it all – ‘there will be blood’, ‘people will be hurt’ etc.

      How many people know what happened in London today? How many know what’s been happening all across Europe, the US, Canada, Australia?

      Now, more than ever, we need these platforms to get even the vaguest outline of what’s really happening. And no matter what side of the whole debate we happen to be on, that has to be something we can agree on.

      Imagine what it would be like right now if we didn’t have social media?

    353. J.o.e says:

      @twathater

      There was a video posted here about mass hypnosis and how people are manipulated into doing horrible things. It was good and in another way it was pretty bad.

      I am one for ugly truths. It’s the ugly truths that nobody wants to look at that are most likely to hold the clues to problems and answer questions we can’t seem solve.

      So what is the ugly truth when it comes to people and politics in my opinion? Is it a corrupt media? A totally corrupt elite? Yes, those are part of it.

      I once read George Soros (I hate the bastard but anyway) book Alchemy of Finance. The one thing in the book that particularly resonated with me is how he speaks about the standard study of economics when it comes to supply and demand and the assumption that people will make rational choices, therefore achieving a balanced market with fair prices. According to him the flaw lies in the assumption that the market participants have perfect knowledge of constantly evolving conditions, which most will not. He of course was one of the top fund managers to ever live so his opinion is backed up by performance. The other flaw in my view is assuming human beings will make rational decisions even with perfect knowledge of the market.

      I find something similar with our idea’s of liberal democracy – we assume that this is the best (or the least bad) system because everyone gets an equal ability to effect election outcomes and given the state of the country or region at any given time we can elect leaders best equipped to do the job. Now putting aside the obvious corruption of mainstream media and the very obvious fact that only the politicians who are acceptable to our financial elite will be reasonably treated there is a more fundamental problem.

      Humans are tribalistic, emotionally driven and have to make constant efforts to behave rationally.

      Advertisers and social engineers are well aware of this and use it to great advantage. Most of us are looking for someone to follow, to do the talking for us, to think things through for us, to show us the way. In short we are looking for a leader to take us where we want to go while giving us reassurance and a feeling of security that our interests are best looked after.

      People on average do not want to have to think for themselves. They want to be led and they are prepared to make all kinds of excuses for the people leading them so long as they are given just enough reassurances that it will all work out well.

      The ugly truth is this is where liberal democracy fails, in the same way that classic economics fails. It is based on the assumption that humans will not act like humans.

      So how do you deal with this?

      Well instead of fighting it you work with it. We have no ability now to properly influence our politics until the next election and even then it will probably result in a reshuffling of characters and nothing will come the way of Scots that the establishment by-and-large don’t approve anyway.

      The real power is economic power. Not just holding vast amounts of cash which would be helpful, but being able to influence business growth, personal security and quality of life depending on our own in group needs and preferences. This will require Scots being encouraged to buy from and sell to other Scots, offer services, hire, expand, train others and generally support their Scottish community. In short using the private sector to do what government is failing (or refusing) to do.

      If a Scottish independence movement were to go down this route of educating and guiding people like this it would quickly start to improve the lives of Scots, give some hope beyond ‘the next election’ and indeed start to take some power out of the hands of politicians.

      This would quite quickly start to show the kind of leadership from an organisation that would attract people who need to be led and ultimately would provide an extremely strong platform for not only forming and maintaining our own political parties but influencing the policies of parties that are opposed to us.

      That would require a couple of things that many Scots don’t do too well – think in terms of the private sector and show an unabashed ingroup preference at the expense of others.

      The thing is though – once the path is clear and rewards known (i.e Scots can look after Scots and improve our own outlook regardless of politicians) it would become an obvious method of functioning and it would put the basics in our favour so that even unionists would see the merit.

      Besides anything – if Scots won’t look after Scots nobody else will. The elite have the power to influence our society because they focus mostly on controlling economics. Politics is a show for the plebs that only occasionally gives them something to worry about. We will not ever effectively fight them if we do not start to take that power back.

      When ordinary people start to understand the power of their basic spending habits, and how if they channel them to the right places with some extra effort and thought, it would quickly start to turn things around. And in turn if the Scots on the receiving end of this preferential treatment would extend job opportunities and training it would result in an economic upward spiral for Scots.

      The political scene would start to become shaped by this.

      To end this protracted rant ill say that given the tyranny we are facing via covid now is a perfect time to start.

    354. Robert Hughes says:

      J.O.E

      Excellent . Well * said * / thought .

      As ever , it’s a question of competing * realities * , who is to say one * reality * is any more * real * than another ? Not me anyway .

      I find what you say often convincing , not 100% so , obviously !

      Everything we think/believe/say is provisional , incomplete , an approximation of that nebulous concept – * Reality * .

      The best we can do is try not to be too fixed in our versions of * reality *

    355. J.o.e says:

      Thanks for the kind words Robert.

      I suppose it all depends on whether Scots actually want to take power back into the hands of Scots.

      Everything im suggesting is simple, legal and can be done along side political activism. We just won’t be relying on the promises of politicians to get resukts. We can all keep our posters of Nicola, Humza, Salmond etc up on our walls if we want.

    356. robert graham says:

      Not sure who posted @ 9:26 either Joe or @twather but a sensible post the kind of thing a competent political party could promote and base a manifesto around

      Anyone know of one ? looking around the only halfway trustworthy ones might be ALBA who are attracting shit from all sides because they might actually do something to alter the cosy relationship that the present lot are fooling the public into believing they different from each other it’s all a fkn Pantomime meant to stop anything of any use happening its all a fkn game

    357. Robert Hughes says:

      ” I suppose it all depends on whether Scots actually want to take power back into the hands of Scots.”

      Indeed my friend .

      We can speculate why that appears to be such an obvious yet fraught question

      What requires little speculation is that until Scots actually do take power back into their own hands we’ll be subject to the power of external forces . Even more so of internalised perceptions of external forces

    358. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Gfaetheblock –

      Thanks.

      That was illuminating.

    359. J.o.e says:

      ‘the kind of thing a competent political party could promote and base a manifesto around’

      Personally I would say that any organizing that this should be as decentralized as possible and A-political outside of the concept that we are working within the country of Scotland for the benefit of the nation of Scots regardless of political outcomes.

      The whole point of such a course of action would be for it to be independent of the shitfilled fucksewer of politics and remain in the hands of Scottish businesses and Scottish customers for the benefits of all. Put it in the hands of a political party, any political party, and it would have a very short shelf life.

      Thats not to say that the leaders that naturally emerge from us all deliberately working to help Scots through the private sector and build a stronger Scottish economy wouldn’t be able to lead political groups or pressure groups. But ultimately it would be meant to exist to help and protect Scots regardless of the political situation or parties.

    360. J.o.e says:

      Correction: Personally I would say that any organizing OF this should be as decentralized…

      Apologies.

    361. Robert Hughes says:

      J.O.E

      ROS

      Ian Brotherhood

      Twathater

      Robert Graham

      Breeks

      Mia ( Love yr posts , whether * long * or * short * – just a little surprised yr dark-adjusted eye hasn’t focused on the many * inconsistencies * of the Covid Narrative )

      James Che

      John Main ( largely , if not always )

      And others whose names I can’t remember right now ( wee bit bevvied after being oot aw day celebrating ma beloved’s birthday )

      Thanks .

      Even those I don’t always agree with , at times vehemently disagree with , as far as I’m concerned we’re fundamentally on the same side .

      Thanks too

      ps if yr reading this Stu C . Hope yr well pal . Haste ye back

    362. Hatuey says:

      The vaccine put an end to lockdown and social distancing, making it possible for anti-vax protests to go ahead. That’s the actual facts of the bizarre world we live in.

      Outside of the Twilight Zone, there simply is no other way to explain the downturn in mortality and hospitalisations, despite rising infections.

      Joe’s comment suggesting we should give preference to other Scots when it comes to trade and business would be dismissed as boring and stupid if it came from just about anybody else. Of all the people that comment on here, though, he’s the one I’d say was most likely to struggle to even define a Scot.

      But let’s go through the motions, Joe, what is a Scot? Is it someone who lives here? Can people of other races be Scots? How long would they need to live here to become a Scot? Are Unionists Scots?

    363. J.o.e says:

      @Hatuey

      Fuck off.

    364. Michael McCabe says:

      @ Ian Brotherhood 11:54pm
      Hope to catch up with you at the Edinburgh March 25th September if you are going.
      Best wishes to you and everyone.

    365. David Caledonia says:

      I try my best to respect everyone’s comments and opinions, I am not here to have debates with anyone, so I seldom will reply to people that agree or disagree with my comments
      Pixy on the other hand is rather fond of being abusive, and I find that rather sad, nobody likes being ridiculed and abused for just writing their thoughts down on wings
      Just scroll by Pixy, and go and annoy someone that gives a feck, cause in your case, I certainly don’t

    366. twathater says:

      @ JOE 1.05am hear, hear
      ____________________________________

      @ JOE 9.26pm your suggestions and proposals are very laudable and workable all it would ever take is for people to be aware of them and put them into practice job nearly done

      I hate negativity but here goes, the BIGGEST and most dangerous threat to independence is NOT Sturgeon and her tartan taliban trans troops including the greens or even the unionist parties with their knuckledraggers , it is the broadcasters especially the BBC and the corrupt skewed tax avoiding newspaper owners

      We would already be an independent state if it were not for the BBC and the MSM lying and misinforming the electorate on everything to do with independence , we would already be rid of Sturgeon and her tartan taliban trans troops if the broadcasters and MSM would actually do their job and EXPOSE Sturgeon’s lies at the judicial inquiry and her part in the debacle

      For ANYTHING positive to happen re independence ALBA with the agreement of the other indy supporting parties would have to EXPOSE the lies and duplicity being carried out against indy Scotland by the BBC and all the broadcasters including the MSM until that happens they, the establishment have the upper hand

    367. A2 says:

      Just as well he’s not got a pacemaker.

    368. Hugh Jarse says:

      Just heard on R4.
      Kids need vaccine, to stop them “getting involved with gangs “.
      !

      Monsters walk amongst us.

    369. Ruby says:

      Hatuey says:

      But let’s go through the motions, Joe, what is a Scot? Is it someone who lives here? Can people of other races be Scots? How long would they need to live here to become a Scot? Are Unionists Scots?

      Reply

      That’s a question to ask when Scotland is independent.

      In the meantime perhaps you could define what you mean by other races.

      What race are Unionists?

      Maybe you could help us out to find an answer to your question ‘What is a Scot? by answering the following:

      What is a Geordie?
      What is an English man?

      Apart from the geographical location the answer will be the same.

    370. stuart mctavish says:

      Hatuey @12:20am

      Not sure if its a better argument or a more outrageous observation but one explanation outside of the Twilight Zone for the downturn in mortality despite rising infections is that its seasonal flu and the vaccine started being distributed in Spring.

      This would not have been too bad for a cunning testing plan – ie trigger the anti bodies in summer when the pathogen is least dangerous – but for the fact that it does not seem to work nearly as well (as a vaccine) as advertised and more people have been dying (with covid) with the medication than without it.

      Agree with the sentiment that the vaccine was heralded as an excuse to exit lockdown (thus lending credibility to both) but remain somewhat concerned that a prevailing belief in necessary evil can lead to suppression of detail pertaining to the actual performance of the drug(s), rendering further mistakes more likely at the authoritarian level.

      ie more lockdowns, winter boosters (with formulas claimed not to work because variants etc), coerced injection of youths with a medication that, superficially, demonstrably increases cases of an allegedly highly infectious and deadly covid-19 (at the onset of peak flu season no less), etc which will ultimately lead to even further restrictions to trade, liberty and self worth than those currently in force.

    371. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Michael McCabe (1.19) –

      Hoots mon!

      Great to see your name popping up there.

      No idea about Edinburgh, I shall check the lie of the land.

      🙂 🙂 🙂

    372. Ian Brotherhood says:

      ‘If you have to leave your job because they’re forcing you to take the vaccine, tell me what you do. If I can’t hire you, I’ll try to find someone who will.’

      That was tweeted last night by an American guy. I won’t identify him because he’s been inundated with replies and is struggling to cope, but I thought it might be helpful for people to know how others are reacting to this crisis.

      Instead of allowing ourselves to be paralysed by fear, we find positive things to do, ways to offer help to each other. Sounds a bit happy-clappy, aye, but that’s what it’s all about.

      The days of feeling apologetic and guilty for pointing out the obvious flaws in the official narrative are over. Those who should feel guilt and fear are the ones peddling the same shite we’ve been having rammed down our necks this past 18 months.

      A lot of damage has already been done but the great positive to emerge from all of it is that we now know who the real enemies are. They’ve overplayed their hand, hugely, and are now lashing out because they know they’re losing

    373. J.o.e says:

      @Twathater

      If we are discussing strategies that ordinary Scots can implement that would benefit their nation then we are left with a short list an easy choice. Complaining about large centralised organisations that are in the hands of the establishment might be relevant but its not a strategy.

      With regards to the MSM the only things Scots can do against this is 1: stop watching it (get rid of the TV in fact) 2: promote alternative media sources and 3: take their TV license and use it for something useful. The 3rd thing on that list could actually be extremely powerful but would require us to have a cohesive central organisation to implement it, so its not for the present.

      So that’s the media. Other than those things there isn’t much else Mr and Mrs MacAverage can do – so that’s exactly what has to be done.

      As for politics – I am not suggesting we ignore politics or what’s going on and not inform ourselves for elections etc. But really our political system is serving as a distraction into which we invest our energy, enthusiasm and time only to be given pretty much what our financial establishment will allow us. The entire YES movement is pretty much based around this unrealistic dream of somehow the establishment that we know are duplicitous, cunning, evil bastards will suddenly honour democratic choice, the sovereignty of people and the integrity of fair elections. It is simply a ridiculous fantasy.

      As I said when talking about UBI – we only have at our disposal bottom-up solutions. There really is no point in discussing top-down solutions because even if those idea’s were alright in and of themselves we have governments that are actively working against us and could never be trusted with such schemes.

      Speaking for myself there is no politician in Scotland that I have any faith in as a leader or potential leader. That includes Alex Salmond.

      The happy coincidence in this is that it is decentralized bottom-up solutions that are actually the most powerful and long lasting – especially the ones that are easily implemented. A redirecting of peoples spending habits towards the actual Scottish economy while encouraging business to hire and train Scottish would encourage others to get into business where there are none in the community. And again we don’t need any politicians on side.

      The strength of this idea comes from the fact that peoples spending habits can make or break a business empire. If people spending habits change, such as the change from high street to online, it will create riches in one place and destroy the other.

      Why not try to coax nationalist spending habits towards nationalist interests and allow the Scottish people to look after each other and participate in the creating of our own prosperity?

      One underlying factor of this is the understanding that its no good just to take a population of people whose minds have been pickled in mainstream propaganda and hoping they will think well for themselves and make good decisions a la Alex Salmond. We who presume to be nationalists must lead the way to better methods for ordinary people and that leadership, real leadership, is exactly what people are completely starving for.

    374. Hatuey says:

      stuart mctavish; “…one explanation outside of the Twilight Zone for the downturn in mortality despite rising infections is that its seasonal flu and the vaccine started being distributed in Spring.”

      I think we are going to need to agree on a working definition of Twilight Zone, squire…

      Any explanation that assumes health practitioners, medical scientists, and others, are involved in some sort of scam or mass deception, to be absolutely clear, is The Twilight Zone.

    375. Robert Hughes says:

      Excellent posts as per Ian B + J.O.E

      Hatz my good man , it doesn’t require “….Any explanation that assumes health practitioners, medical scientists, and others, are involved in some sort of scam or mass deception…..”

      It merely requires people – even in good faith- accepting a version of ” reality ” ( which falls apart under sufficient scrutiny ) to be convinced they are doing/believing the right thing for terrible mistakes to be made on a massive scale .

      The * Reality * that’s been foisted on us ie the super-infectious nature of the virus , it’s lethality for everyone irrespective of age or state of health ,the magic numbers game , what is it now 5million alleged deaths * from * Covid ?

      How is that number arrived at , who gathers and tests the veracity of such * Covid * fatalities , what are the financial inducements to label any/every death as from Covid , if an 90 year old cancer sufferer dies and the death is included in the virus fatality stats , can that really be considered legitimate ?

      The ever-shifting claims of the vaccine-promoters – initially the universal panacea , now , not so much : the shifting of blame for rising cases onto the new lepers even though vaccinated people can still cause infection .

      In short , the social upheavals being caused in the name of health safety

      Does none of this warping of reality cause you any doubts at all ?

    376. Hatuey says:

      Dear Ian Brotherhood,

      You’ve clearly gone all-in with this hand when you should have folded months ago.

      The cards have been turned now and we can see that you didn’t stand a chance: the vaccine works; people aren’t dying because of it in significant numbers; society and life has more or less returned to normal as a result.

      Sometimes you’ve just got to accept you made a huge mistake and learn from it. But you’re not doing that. You’re fishing and in doing so compounding the problem with another bigger error by saying the whole casino is rigged.

      Immersing yourself in this stuff is clearly distorting your judgement and giving you a false sense of what is really going on. Outside of your bubble there’s no mass outrage or protests against the vaccine — on the contrary, people are grateful for the vaccine and the opportunity it gave us to get life back to normal.

      You say, “the days of feeling apologetic and guilty for pointing out the obvious flaws in the official narrative are over” and that’s disappointing.

      Why aren’t you welcoming the return to normal we are experiencing, yesterday’s decision not to vaccinate 12 to 15 year olds, and the fact that lots of us aren’t dying as a result of cytokine storms?

      I really don’t know where you think you are going with all this. It looks like a dead end to me.

      H

    377. J.o.e says:

      The only thing worse than slimefuck PR shill is a slimefuck PR shill who enjoys it.

    378. Hatuey says:

      Robert Hughes, I’m sorry but what you’re saying is The Twilight Zone. You’re asking us to give more weight to your understanding of science and reality than we give to the opinions of hundreds of thousands of experts, scientists, and health professional all around the world.

    379. Robert Hughes says:

      I’m not asking you to do anything H , but you continually talk as if there is absolutely no legitimate , equally credible contrary scientific/medical opinion on the subject . There is , plenty of it and growing .That you’re not seeing is down to the simple FACT of it not being given ANY MSM coverage .

      It’s just not intellectually or ethically honest to ignore , dismiss or pour scorn on anything that challenges the Master Narrative

    380. Pixywine says:

      Hatuey. There are many more experts and scientists who disagree with Government covid policies but they rarely get any airplay in the Media and when they do occasionally get on air it only to be set up talked over shouted down by a BBC scum hole clearly working for Government in exactly the same way the Independence Movement was treated by the Media in 2014. You already know that as do many other lockdown queen’s on this site.

    381. Pixywine says:

      Hatuey. The “vaccines are not stopping the flu. They are causing it. You’re a liar.

    382. Robert Hughes says:

      Your * consensus * has * quite a few * dissenters H

      https://thefatemperor.com/scientific-analyses-and-papers-on-lockdown-effectiveness/

    383. Pixywine says:

      Ian B. If it wasn’t for the reach of social media possibly none of this would be happening.

    384. Pixywine says:

      Good news. The Taliban have banned Critical Race Theory

    385. Pixywine says:

      David Caledonia. If you don’t give a fuck why mention me?.
      Whats the view like from inside Sturgeons handbag.

    386. stuart mctavish says:

      Hatuey @12:05
      Fair point but in their defence I’ve yet to hear of any of them handing out prescriptions for mandatory mask wearing, 12 months off work, or even vaccinations related to this particular illness

    387. twathater says:

      @ JOE 11.07am , again I agree with your proposals and we individually can work towards spreading the word and encouraging others to participate in the actions.

      But again that has already been done by real independence patriots when it comes to avoiding and boycotting certain products and companies who are openly supportive of the union , we have ALL been made aware of the proliferation of replacing the Saltire with the jack on products by manufacturers and large retailers and left them on the shelves with the unionist retailers claiming innocence , but it has never stopped , even Aldi who were proud to display the Saltire on their produce are slowly infiltrating the jack

      Unfortunately we do not have time to slowly encourage and convince people that the continued r ape and plunder of SCOTLAND’S resources by WM will result in even more vicious poverty and deprivation , even more exporting of our young people due to unemployment and unaffordable housing , a continued influx of people from all over desperate to enjoy a relatively stable climate , a relatively modern country with up to date technology , low density population areas , and very important, affordable (for them) larger spacious cheaper housing which allows the banking of any surplus profit from any previous house sale
      Would these NEW SCOTS be happy and engaged in fighting for separate statehood with all the risk,unknowns and organising that entails

    388. Robert Hughes says:

      Pixywine

      Aye and the more recent example of ALBA being totally blanked by MSM in Scotland : except to denigrate it .

      Info wars , their not exactly a new phenomenon

    389. Robert Hughes says:

      ” they’re ” !

    390. J.o.e says:

      ‘But again that has already been done by real independence patriots when it comes to avoiding and boycotting certain products and companies who are openly supportive of the union , we have ALL been made aware of the proliferation of replacing the Saltire with the jack on products by manufacturers and large retailers and left them on the shelves with the unionist retailers claiming innocence , but it has never stopped , even Aldi who were proud to display the Saltire on their produce are slowly infiltrating the jack’

      Sorry but it looks like you don’t really understand what I am talking about.

    391. twathater says:

      @ JOE 7.19pm so explain to me Joe how my response to this is NOT understanding what you are talking about

      ————————————–
      “A redirecting of peoples spending habits towards the actual Scottish economy while encouraging business to hire and train Scottish would encourage others to get into business where there are none in the community. And again we don’t need any politicians on side.

      The strength of this idea comes from the fact that peoples spending habits can make or break a business empire. If people spending habits change, such as the change from high street to online, it will create riches in one place and destroy the other.

    392. Hatuey says:

      Even if Joe’s suggestion had any potential to be positively impactful, and I highly doubt that, it would probably take about 30 years before anything measurable transpired.

      The fact is that about 80% of the economy is in the hands of British/English and other foreign companies. That means about 80% of the choices we make concerning spending decisions are essentially made for us.

      There are no Scottish companies offering us petrol for our cars, electricity for our homes, supermarkets for groceries, mobile phone networks, broadband, etc., etc., etc.

      When it comes to services, I can’t imagine how favouring Scottish plumbers or taxi drivers would work. Are you going to let your houses flood or stand waiting in the cold until a suitably Scottish option appears?

      You’ve still not defined what a Scot is as far as this scheme goes either.

      It’s all just junk.

    393. J.o.e says:

      @Twathater

      I will take the blame for you not quite getting what im talking about.

      Nobody has done what im talking about, there are individuals and small groups trying to save the high street or boycott big business where possible. Which is all good and im up for it.

      Making it a nationalist policy to actively support grass roots business and self employed Scots in their local communities, regardless of politics, to the point where any Scot who has a skill but nobody representing that skill in their community could know that there’s already business waiting there for them to start with.

      Thats not about what Aldi does or where it sources anything. Or any other big international business. Its about your mate Dode who can run a bakery actually being encouraged into it and supported by the nationalist community (and other people concerned about the actions of big business) and having one less bookies on your high street.

      For example if i take some paper, write up everything I buy as a matter of habit and then source where I can get those items without setting foot into a bigger business to get them I can then divert cash flow towards my local community. A lot of people already do that so its not big deal. But what if any blanks on the list could be made known and basically encourage people to step up to the plate with some guaranteed custom?

      What if that became accepted and broadcast nationalist policy (pushed for as much as the old ‘who to vote for’ thing) as a part of reviving our economy. No politicians needed but a national effort all the same and giant fuck you to big business and the government.

      Note – im not talking about boycotting here. If your butcher is a Unionist then that’s fine, its better putting money in his pocket that it is in the investors of Asda.

    394. twathater says:

      JOE I do get what you are talking about hence my reference to people’s choices , people can and do make choices but those choices are restricted to variables , availability , financial, trust , there are very few tradespeople I would recommend to anyone unless I actively hated them or wanted revenge for something . Unfortunately your proposals are unworkable because people are selfish ,greedy ,suspicious ,envious or just plain arseholes exemplified by some on here

    395. J.o.e says:

      @twathater

      You do realise what the alternative is? Right?

    396. J.o.e says:

      The alternative is to pretty much keep doing as we are doing. That would be fine if got nowhere, but the fact is the noose is tightening.

      I don’t expect such proposals to be adopted by many initially. But it SHOULD be a constant request made by nationalist organisations and it should be a basic effort made by nationalists.

      It will take the work of a few dedicated groups to become known for the merits of it to spread to others. Nobody would be asked to get shafted and nobody would be asked to use services or buy goods that they don’t want or don’t trust or are simply too expensive.

      But ultimately this will have to be done as it is the only way to bring back some economic power to ordinary people without asking for government to do something for us. Because they wont.



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