Protest But Don’t Survive
Posted on
March 28, 2026 by
Rev. Stuart Campbell
If events in Edinburgh today are anything to go by – when a march and rally announced with great fanfare seven months ago, backed by both the “independence” parties in the Scottish Parliament and featuring the First Minister as main speaker, attracted perhaps 1,500 people at the most to Calton Hill on a bright and sunny day – the independence movement faces an imminent final apocalypse.
So here’s how to prepare yourself for when the SNP win a landslide with 35%, Keir Starmer says “So what?” and then a deathly silence descends for another five years.
Even Kelly Given and Iona Fyfe didn’t show up for this one. That’s how bad it is.
I was there. It was a lot, lot more than 1500. You can never tell when you’re in the crowd yourself, but it was a healthy length of the route, going by the hold-ups.
So you can’t tell, but you can tell?
Keep it up Stu, there’s probably still a few pro-Scottish self-governance folk you haven’t managed fall out with or piss off yet…
It was very chilly yesterday with the gusty wind chill and showers, and fuel costs have risen significantly over the past few weeks, plus with ULEZ shite, why would many choose to go to Auld Reekie.
The big AUOB marches across Scotland had serious numbers attending a good few years back now, those numbers are no more due to the factionalism of wider support for Scottish self-governance, and apathy as folk observe the energy so readily put into falling out with one another and little to none focused on building unity of purpose.
We all know the NuSNP has been thoroughly captured. It was obvious years ago with their antics and foisting all sorts of democratically unmandated and damaging policies onto Scottish society.
The question remains what are we actually going to do about it. That’s “we” in the sense of the broader collective term, because far too many years have been pissed away with childish bickering distractions and myriad suspicious antics and diversions have come and gone.
You’ve got plenty time to be critical of the NuSNP, but haven’t said much on the demise of Alba, a supposedly pro-indy party formed well after the creation of ISP and other existing initiatives.
So many splinter factions divvying up the votes of the electorate will never reach levels of support to make an impact.
What we have to do about it is destroy the SNP. Until people realise that, there’s no moving forward.
It’s been fairly obvious to most informed folk that the NuSNP are the problem with regard to progressing Scotland’s return to self-governance.
The trouble is that an awful lot of Scottish folk are not that well-informed or interested in the goings-on in “Scottish” politics…
This is a situation created and maintained by UK State control of media and narratives due to what they do and don’t choose to shine a light on.
So we have an electorate that is effectively kept in the dark, and that is by design to maintain the status quo. And as polling figures show, significant change doesn’t look likely to occur after the next electoral event in May.
There’s also the not insignificant matter when “wanting the NuSNP destroyed”, that many pro-Scottish self-governance folk, (and even some unionists) will be reluctant to give up the relative security and comfort blanket of better the devil they know, and relinquish power to some unquantified and uncertain future at the hands of other Parties which are likely to be more pro-Union and English based in outlook and policy delivery.
It’s one thing wanting the NuSNP removed from the scene, but quite another big step to either not vote at all, or vote for a more upfront pro-union Party to aid the NuSNP’s demise.
I’m one of the very few that held my nose to do the latter, and it was by no means an easy decision: And there’s just no way less informed folk would have what it takes to make such a drastic change in their voting choices.
But either of those options will help facilitate more pro-Union representation in the percenatge of votes cast and MSPs in Holyrood, with all that would bring for another electoral cycle.
That’s a shite state of affairs tbh, and we are where we are due to being badly led and so easily divided and lacking focus in building an alternative pro-Scotland returning to self-governance political movement for folk to migrate to from the captured NuSNP. If we were organised years back then we would be much better positioned to promote and offer a viable option for pro-Scottish self-governance folk scunnered with NuSNP to get behind, in a not dissimilar way to the IPP vote moving to Sinn Féin in Ireland back in the day.
It was stated that the desire for Scottish self-governance would rise after the likes of The EU vote, or when T May, B Johnson, and Truss got in, but it didn’t, so the idea that the likes of Farage and Reform being a motivating factor to boost the desire of more Scots to want Indy ain’t necessarily going to play out either.
And all we’ll get is more of the same Union shite dictated to us under London Rule by the next twat in the no 10 flat.
I’m sorry, Rev, I had to stop listening to that video at 2 minutes – it was excruciating. What a sad, tragic, farce after the 100,000 we had two years running in Edinburgh.
So back to the plan I suggested about an hour ago on the previous post. You must set up the Wee Blue Book Party that you proposed a few years ago.
You are the only person with enough wide recognition to front a party. You have the necessary qualities in spades – I can’t think of any current politician who is a patch on you [not a great comparison, admittedly]. All the other thinkers and activists would gladly work with you. Money wouldn’t be a problem.
How about it? Give us something to which to look forward – we’ll need it on May 8th.
Sarah – will all those who contributed to the various GoFund me pages you advertised for so long get their money back?
“Agent” – aye; you’ve given yersel the proper pen name, right enough.
“All the other thinkers and activists would gladly work with you.”
LOLZ
Well, all the sensible ones! And despite the obvious exceptions, most are sensible, nice people. 🙂
“Thousands attend Scottish independence rally in Edinburgh”
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The National.
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.”
Winston Churchill.
How many still have the courage ? I wonder.
Maybe Northcode will be along soon to quote some Goebbels to prove you wrong!
Agentx @ 18.21.
The irony of citing Goebbels to prove a point had not escaped me, x. However that’s Picts for you.
Not entirely certain I should be referencing Churchill either, however it’s a quote which appeals to me.
“The irony of citing Goebbels to prove a point had not escaped me…”
I agree… the irony you refer to didn’t escape you. It didn’t escape you because it never existed in the first place.
Irony is the use of words to convey a meaning contrary to the one normally conveyed by those words – rhetorically speaking it’s a form of deliberate ambiguity in intension.
Show me where lies the irony in my comment quoting Goebbels.
Where is the ambiguity, deliberate or accidental, in my words?
It can’t be shown. It can’t be shown because my comment highlighting the hypocrisy of the English as perceived by Germany’s Reich Minister for Propaganda during WW2 isn’t ironic… it’s a statement of fact supported by a man who was considered a war criminal, and who learned much of his craft from the BBC, aye, and fae oot the mooth o Churchill himsel.
Anyway, that’s the Gaels for you – very often wrong… and very often wrong in a strange and peculiar incomprehensible language, anaw.
Jim Sillars said much the same recently. I think there are many with the courage to continue – they are working on topics such as currency, the constitution etc etc – but they need a recognisable face up front to attract attention from the wider public. Hence my call for the Rev’s WBB Party.
Brilliant! So, so sad!
There must’ve been some folk in that crowd (judging by the looks on their faces) who were saying to themselves, why am I here?
I especially liked the cultural misappropriation of the football chant of Roo-ney ascribed to Swi-nney. I actually begin to feel sorry for some of the deluded – that wots her name?
The sad thing is they look like riderless horses at Aintree that don’t know it’s over for them. Oh dear.
The inane cheerleading “Swinn-eeeeh, Swinn-eeeeh etc” chant has to be the all time arse-clenching moment in the entire history of all Independence movements the World over.
That’s what happens when you have no (costed) plan, have provided no detail on pretty much anything – from currency, economic policies, jobs, pensions, national debt, healthcare, education, governance (pretty much you name it, really) – and in fact the last real information that was provided at all was the laughably flawed, thin and hopelessly inaccurate White Paper of 2013, I guess.
It’s not just the SNP that’s failed (albeit they have of course, catastrophically in fact) – it’s the entire independence movement? Sensible, grown up stakeholders with big stuff to lose – jobs, careers, property, pensions, a future etc – can’t be expected to roll the dice on a promise, yet it seems no one is prepared to do the heavy lifting or even has a clue.
Genuinely, I think for one lone figure you have done amazing things Stu bit at the end of the day you don’t have the resources to carry the entire movement, which has entirely lost its way and has been captured by the woke left.
I don’t think that the movement has been captured, only the politicians. The Rev wouldn’t be alone. Independence Forum Scotland, Yes United, SSRG, Robin McAlpine – there’s loads of them.
@Sarah
There is no movement. None of the people you mentioned will get elected. Even Stu with his legendary supporters would save his deposit but not get elected. Why? Day 2 of the election campaign and MacKay of STV doubles down. Hunting around for anti Reform narrative. Thankfully most of the mainstream parties were wanting to move on.The power lies with the MSM and they decide who gets elected. A corrupt anti democracy society we live in. Unless you have a few million.
@ George Ferguson
I was going to comment about that Reform ‘homophobic’ joke on the previous post but it’s more relevant to your comment.
People get their news from social media. MSM is dying but it feeds social media. We are told that the Reform guy said a homophobic joke so trying not to say he is homophobic by apologising, he was homophobic.
That ‘homophobic’ joke is about as funny as a burning orphanage and about as offensive. There has been more explicit and offensive anal sex jokes on TV.
I have no interest in Reform and care nothing for them but if I was Offord, I would have told them where to go and walked out of any interview. Doubling down works both ways.
There is a lot to say against Trump, particularly in light of ongoing events, but the one thing you can say positively about him is how he dealt with the partisan MSM.
If any genuine independence minded candidate has any chance to be elected, they need to drop the nice guy image. It didn’t work last time and won’t work now. If the MSM and other political parties want to fight in the gutter then so be it.
“I don’t think that the movement has been captured, only the politicians.”
In the real world, “Movements” are ALWAYS “captured by politicians” and used to serve the politicians’ own ends.
“I don’t think that the movement has been captured”
OK maybe it’s wrong to tar everyone with the same brush, but it can’t be denied that “the movement” is strongly left wing, and the Left has itself largely be captured by woke ideology and all the craziness that entails. To me, as an outsider, it does seem very hard (if not impossible) to extricate independence per se from these wider aims and objectives of the “progressive” Left, and all its baggage.
Frankly, that’s a big problem, as I’m sure you’d agree. A bigger tent is needed, metaphorically speaking, but the Left does love to demonise all those who don’t subscribe to their increasingly bizarre beliefs and petulant demands. The tendency is for the tent to shrink still further over time, as an ever diminishing pool with high concentrations of intolerant zealots et al remains (as ably demonstrated BTL here).
Working class hero Wilma Flintsone’s just not worth wasting time on, cut and paste is all she’s worth;
Utter bollocks that was de-bunked years ago being sicked-up by English Yoons. Is this really the best England’s top team can do?
Scotland, uniquely in the world, couldnae hiv it’s ain currency or fund pensions. “More civil servants needed” bla bla bla all this crap was repeated ad-nauseam in 2014.
The twat must be on a wind-up; rarely is so much utter ‘shite’ on display in one post.
Ah, my old porcine pal Fatso…
Mate. Just a few things to point out here. First off, at no point did I say that Scotland couldn’t fund pensions and/or “hiv it’s own” [sic – no apostrophe needed, moron] currency.
In actual fact, I merely pointed out that no one has yet come up with a reasonably comprehensive route map or prospectus indicating how such things could be done in practice, in credible detail – neither before 2014, nor the decade or more since. It’s not like people don’t have the time, or that there’s anything more pressing to do. So then, another fool with the comprehension skills of a 5 year old… what is it with you people, can’t you read words and understand their basic meanings?
Secondly, you do seem to like mocking people for having worked hard all their adult lives, coming up from humble beginnings and making good. As opposed to what, pal? Some lazy fatarse happy to collect bennies? If you want something to laugh at, take a look in the mirror, assuming you have one!
Look, I know this is akin to trying to explain Latin to a dog, but here goes. From your POV, TV remote in hand, prostrated over your busted, piss-stained sofa wearing nothing but 5-day old crusty Y-fronts with burgeoning belly grotesquely overhanging, you have literally nothing to lose from any prospect of independence. (In fact, Earth takeover by space aliens would have similarly no effect on the likes of you).
However, try to imagine you had actually done stuff – maybe owning property, having a career, a modest pension pot, kids at school. What then? Would you be quite so gung ho about the prospect of handing literally everything over to the likes of Scotland’s current political class? Even you, as utterly thick as you are, must have at least some vague inkling that such a course carries risks – most especially if there isn’t even a fucking plan.
Pfft, honestly. You guys eh.
C’mon now James the cave dweller has every right to come on to a supposed indy supporting blog and give us the benefit of his expansive knowledge in politics and how to run a country, after all he resides in engerland where everything in the garden is superb and the governments are envied and hailed across the world for their competence and ability
Because HIS government is so astute and HIS country is prospering he feels that it is only right that he generously attempts to assist us in achieving the greatness that England is world wide respected and admired for
I feel that this maybe an opportune time for the cave dweller and his fellow union supporters to post a list of reasons, financially and socially why Scotland should remain within an abusive relationship
100% correct but…………….truth and facts are not enjoyed by many on here. It will all be fine, by magic, is the way forward for the majority of posters on Wings. Of course, if anyone is not in agreement with the fantasists they are automatically branded Unionists or English!
First step for the Independence movement is to get rid of the SNP and Greens, together with their useless politicians. I use the word ‘politicians’ loosely.
Independence is a long, long, way off. Sensible people do not vote for the unknown.
The Twa Trolls. Well matched; made for each other.
Never let the truth get in the way of a pish post, “boys”.
Idiots.
Can’t help feeling that Brian Cox’s account of how deeply he feels for Scotland would have resonated more deeply if even one of his 4 properties were to be in Scotland, rather than New York, upstate New York (Hillsdale) and two in London.
I was hoping to see someone on here mentioning Mr Cox – he’s a fine example of ‘do what I say, not what I do’!
Protect and Survive how chilling was that. The 4 minute warning. That was a real fear. Not made up on AI. There was another public announcement on how to unscrew your doors and make a shelter in your own house. Perhaps it’s not that out of date.
As for the other stuff. Well all my contempt for Indy evaporated watching that sad embarrassment. I really take back all I said about those poor bastards.
@Mark Beggan
Another one of my post meets the axe.I thought this was a free speech blog. I answered your post based on real life experience. But I have no VC, campaign honours or media influence so its got lost again. And there is the problem in a nutshell.
Bummer. Maybe it’s on its way.
Go onto Youtube and search for “If the bomb drops” which is an old episode of Panorama from 1980. I don’t know how somebody managed to get hold of that copy (note the slate and timecode) but it’s there anyway. It’s depressing stuff, but interesting for people like me who were too young to understand the cold war and the nuclear threat back in the day.
P. S. Do you remember “Threads”? Bonus points if you remember the absolutely horrifying ending 😐
It’s really disheartening to see such a large turnout not translate into tangible action. The lack of follow-through is definitely a worrying trend.
Large turnout?
@Mark Beggan
Surely the movie Threads covered all this before. The Cold War and not even outwith our life time. I have to be a Major General with many awards to be able to comment. A squaddie on Hogmanay in Berlin lying in freezing ground where Intel said a Russian attack was imminent. We don’t get to comment. I have heard it all before. Many times. Absolutely no vision or leadership in the UK or Scotland.
” a Russian attack…”
BIG LOLZ!! Gave me the laugh of the week there, cheers!
Whatever happened to being a Collective?
We don’t all have to like each other.
Did you know that a society is at its most collective during times of war.
May I introduce you to the concept of the question mark?
On a bright and sunny day?!? The wind chill was absolutely perishing, mind.
This may be the last chance in any of our lifetimes to put down the dead weight of UK history and walk away. Using the inadequacies of John Swinney and the venality of some bits of his party as a reason for not trying your damnedest to get everyone you know to vote for the SNP is profoundly stupid.
I am not doing something right here. A double post on the last thread will be met with hammers. My best post was lost on this thread. People that have been on active service understand the nonsense of the political narrative. The politicos, they won’t be the ones lying in the dirt. But just to cheer you up the incoming MSPs have a £ 5billion deficit to make up over the lifetime of the Parliament. Enjoy!
We demand George’s best post gets reposted. I really want to read it now.
Northcode @ 20.02.
Ah my respected friend Northy, if only you could comprehend this “incomprehensible language” in which you post, you may see the irony in seeking support for your original post from the “liars’ liar”. The man so twisted he probably buttered his bread with a corkscrew and was, undoubtedly a veritable master of propaganda.
Trust Goebbel’s appraisal of anyone ? I wouldn’t have believed him if he said it was raining before I’d looked out the window and checked.
Still, ’tis always pleasant to see you posting BTL. And, as I’m sure we both know, “to err is human, to forgive divine”, and I promise you I’ve never claimed divinity even in my wildest moments of fantasy.
(I am, however, still working on my humanity).
40 years ago this year the Chernobyl rain fell on Scotland.
@Bilbo
There is no reply button on your post for me to press. I am not an advocate for Reform. I am an Independence supporter that has given up on Independence. The Independence movement was taken over by the SNP. And they poisoned the well. I will not vote on May 7th. No future Scottish Parliament gets my vote especially since they have dodged consistently the forthcoming £5billion deficit. Have you thought about why a record number of MSPs are leaving?. Shitshow to come.
GF
Lose the woke crap and Messr McCrone pointed the way decades ago.
It’s not the publics fault so many are unaware given Westminster actively buried it and the Unionists actively shouted over it so no/one could hear..
Mr Barnetts crumbs?
Don’t make me laugh.
GF, just because the SNP have fulsomely become Democrat clones with eagerly adopted 10+ year old failed US policies (as is standard in the UK after all) doesn’t mean Independence is shit.
Politically it’s just trapped in a Ponzi scheme and needs rescuing, not rolling over and giving up.
@ George Ferguson at 7.43 p.m. “There is no movement”
I belong to a three pro-independence groups and people in those groups also belong to several different groupings. There are loads of people who are doing something to spread the word. This partly explains the 50% polling that supports independence.
So there is an independence movement. What is lacking is the political wing.
I wasn’t suggesting that the various groups I mentioned earlier would be candidates and I wasn’t suggesting they would win seats right now. A new party needs time and it needs workers. A WBB party starting now would have a few years to build support before the next big election.
John has a secret plan remember!
Big Jock.
“John has a secret plan.”
Ah, if only some kind person would tell him what the plan is and allow him to pass it on, BJ. As it is I’m getting the impression his Plan A is to ask for a referendum; Plan B is to just keep waiting for Plan A to work.
“Arrogance, ignorance and hubris” of the decision makers and Presidents involved..
(And yes that includes saint JFK)..
An interesting summary in “Turning Point: The Vietnam War” docu-series on Netflix.
I wonder if Trump and Nuttyyahoo have the self awareness to view themselves in light of this warning from history?
I seriously doubt it.
Know yer history, build yer future.
Ignore history; yer destined to keep making the same mistakes again and again..
See a pattern?
Saint JFK! Not the mad shagger with the sexual appetite of a rabid dog?
This war has been raging since 1979. It just never touched us here until now.
It doesn’t matter if a country doesn’t want to go war when a regime has already declared war on it.
Trump and Netenyao will be rembered as the men who saved the Western world.
Beggars
Nuttyyahoo “saved the world”..
Not if you’re a journalist or flashing lights paramedic..
Vietnam war documentary. I recommend The Ten Thousand Day War. An American documentary made in the 1970’s.
Nah….
“The Untold History of the United States” by Oliver Stone.
Mark Beggan @ 21.49.
I recall it particularly well as I was working in and around both RN Coulport & RN Faslane at the time, Mark. And was for a few years involved in the construction of the Access Haul Rd through Glen Fruin.
Our dosimeters were well checked in those days.
Said it for a number of years. Stu and Robin to to lead us to independence. Come on guys. You want too and we need you to.
I feel sure James Kelly will disagree with what you’ve said here. The man brings nothing to the Indy cause and more and more people are seeing that.
I’m willing to bet their was more dog shit that supporters.
The numbers at the event only prove that even within the SNP most faithful, they just simply aren’t prepared to come out even on a sunny day when they know there is nothing to come for and no plan to achieve Independence in May.
Support for Independence has never been greater the problem Scotland faces is the appetite for the SNP
Scotland/Alba may now proudly join the nevereverlands of Québec & Catalunya among the sovereign states that might have just been had the gods been favorable.
In my limited life experience the generation that might kick start the project couldn’t care less. In fact they couldn’t care less about most things. A generation of iphone sucking idiots…..and they’re everywhere.
It does make one wonder about this «western liberal democracy» creed and in the light of recent events whether it is is capable of producing intelligent, informed and accountable governance in any meaningful sense.
Philosopher kings, go piss in the winds as Plato might have uttered in disgust.
TURABDIN says:
“Philosopher kings, go piss in the winds as Plato might have uttered in disgust.”
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The main «western liberal democracy» was founded on the principle of “no kings”, philosopher or otherwise.
Hence the current “no kings” protest days against the creature that currently squats in the Oval Office. Is it possible to imagine an incumbent further removed from Plato than that son of Scotland, Dòmhnall Iain Trump?
Wargamer Trump is also a son of Germany. Think of all those predatory Germanic tribes swarming over Europe and North Africa, Goths, Visigoths. Ostrogoths, Angles, Jutes, Vikings, Saxons, Vandals, Franks, Normans etc.
The Celts, who did get as far as Anatolia were a pacific culture in comparison.
The only countries the Scots actually invaded were Ireland & England, the first to liberate from the AngloNormans the latter in self defence. Then they got caught up in Anglo-imperial adventurism, alas.
I do think i should prefer a genuine «philosopher king or queen» to a supposedly democratically elected individual with the personhood of «nails on slate» banality
I don’t think it is just the young folks who are disinterested.
Thatcher once said there is no society, only the individual. Much as I detested the woman and her ilk she was actually making a very valid observation.
The individual is the very essence of our existence. When it comes together there is a society. Individuals can come together in so many way be it culture, language, shared enterprise, shared support, shared participation. The key is that individuals together make society. Without that joint enterprise there is nothing.
Too many of us today are just that, nothing. They do not participate whether it be working, or learning or helping or sharing. Just the greed of I and me.
These people do not need to participate in politics. Some don’t even need to train and learn. Some don’t need to work. For them God will look after them.
And then there are others who look after themselves. Plunder is their modus. Corporate exploitation or the many smaller iterations of a plague that blights our land.
Screwed at the bottom end by a lumpen disinterested and screwed by a motivated interested at the other end focussed on lining their pockets.
How long can it go on. Who is paying for this if the answer is not already clear in our ever downward failing economy with its attendant inability to fund the services that the individuals want.
The next few months and years is going to host huge change. For those on the benefits, life will get harder. For those who work the cost of living will cripple. And for those, with savings, inflation will soon see to them.
And the individuals who play politics. How much do they support their so called communities. Or are they just individual troughers doing what individual troughers do.
I think we know the answer to that. But would we have it any other way.
THE EXISTENTIAL game changer will be AI & who trains it and to what end.
Paradoxically it has the potential to be the great «liberator» of the individual or the enslaver.
This is a massive evolutionary leap for humankind. We all ought to be involved.
Ignorance is inexcusable. It should not be the plaything of zillionaire techbros and lapdog politicians.
“…you may see the irony in seeking support for your original post from the “liars’ liar”…”
I do not.
Goebbels calling out England for lying to the world was certainly hypocrisy on his part – a case of the pot calling the kettle black, for sure – but it wasn’t irony…and neither was my use of his view on England’s duplicitous nature in my comment.
Who better to recognise Albion’s perfidiousness than a fellow perfidian?
The idiom “It takes a thief to catch a thief” aptly describes the self-knowing inherent in one of the most hated and oppressive regimes in modern history required to identify the subtle, and the not so subtle, similarities between itself and the former British Empire.
Like recognises like… and the opinion of Germany’s Reich Minister for Propaganda in the 1940s stating his view on the nature of Britain’s empire at the time clearly shows one vicious and oppressive regime recognising aspects of itself in another.
An interesting paper by Paul Stocker of Teesside University titled “The Imperial Spirit: British Fascism and Empire, 1919–1940” analyses the relationship between British fascism and Empire during the interwar period, a paper based on the premise that historians have neglected the imperial dimension of fascist ideology in Britain.
But enough of fascist fannies, oppressive oiks, and stupid subjugators… enough of thick regimes and thuggish empires.
Tis the Sabbath theday and that being so may God’s luve blinter doun upo ye aw and raise yer speerits high.
Northcode @ 11.13.
Whilst I had always thought of the Sabbath as being from sunset on Friday until sunset on Saturday, if I’m picking out your good wishes correctly from the dialect, thankyou. Having just come home from the Gospel Hall I attend I send a hearty and well meant, “May God bless you and cause His face to shine upon you” my online companion.
Well said, Northcode….and somehow appropriate maybe, to paraphrase;
“We find ourselves opposed by forces that operate in the shadows, without a flag, with powerful individuals that are placed in a wide range of influential positions.
We are a potentially extremely wealthy country and yet we live a life of relative poverty. We go here and there, begging for credits and aid and yet we are great exporters of capital”
Adapted from a speech by Salvador Guillermo Allende, 29th president of Chilé, a socialist committed to democracy. The golf club wallahs will be choking on their Empire biscuits…
A fine adaptation from Allende’s speech, James, and a quote most apt in the context of Scotland’s subjugation by a foreign power.
I gave up on any hope of independence a long time ago now. I feel sickened and embarrassed that I live in a country along side people who still think we are better off in a union so clearly detrimental to the people of Scotland. Nearly all of our politicians who are supposed to represent us are, with very few exceptions spineless and self serving careerists so I refuse to waste any more of my time or risk my mental health on independence issues or politics.
AUTONOMY & independence begin in the intellect, heart and integrity «the soul» of the individual. So called politics and its actors would eat that soul.
My ancient culture exists only in the soul of its people, so far, despite the misery politicians & régimes deal out it still exists. Likewise the soul of Scotland however that might be envisaged.
A quote for the times.
«Dictators aren’t stupid, or regimes could be toppled easily by young people mobilizing on Facebook»
Evgeny Morozov
Re the above think «Arab Spring» or Zack’s Greens, one click politics of the juvenile herd.
Off Topic.
I see that last month the Glen Rosa ferry was once again cannabilised to supply parts for the Glen Sannox.
I’m thinking that at a cost of around £197.5 million pounds the Glen Rosa must be the most expensive spare parts bin ever.
Still, both votes SNP eh.
Perhaps in her rumoured new updated chapter for her book (once she has regained her memory) Ms Sturgeon will explain some of her reasons for opting for these disasters when there were other proven, less expensive options available.
To vote for any of the Leftists partys in Scotland is to put your own personal stamp of approval on Transgenderism and equally you are all for the degradation of women.
That’s votes 1 and 2. No Ifs No buts about it.
“Socialism is a disease that starts in the mind and then spreads to the rest of the body.”
Baby Senator Kennedy.
Used the Scottish NHS recently, Beggan?
Why don’t you tell the group what socialism is?
I’m sure we’d all love to read yer take on how we humans survived throughout the centuries before banking wankers came along to create debt..
“To argue with a fool only creates two fools”
Senator Kennedy.
The hard left, the ‘wokies’ have captured every independence party and movement in the UK, and beyond: the SNP, the Greens, Plaid Cymru, the NI nationalists and the Eirean parties. All captured. Why? Because they are the weakest link. They want, all of them, to appear to be all things to all men, opening their hearts and their minds to every imaginable aspect of ‘woke’, and, as a result, they are entirely sieve-like in their approach to politics. No, no, we are not right-wing. No, no, we are not exclusive. No, no, we are open to being undermined from within by whoever.
There is a reason that all these independence parties and movements were chosen by the vanguard of the ‘woke’ movement (backed by American and Canadian billionaires), the Scotland, Ireland, NI and Wales, and most other smaller countries in Europe and the Commonwealth, or those that are situated next to a huge neighbour that will not be so easily infiltrated ( big Australia, Canada and England have all fallen now, too).
The ‘woke’ movement, policy by policy, is destroying economies, overturning a thousand years of culture, language and social mores. Why? Ask the billionaires behind it all, especially the ‘trans’ outrage. What we are witnessing is an undermining of the structures that make societies in the West impervious to the usual onslaughts from overzealous ideologies and cultures. We are witnessing the destruction of a Western structure, based on Christianity, law and social consensus, built upon over a millennia of conflict, revolution and adjustment of cultural, political and philosophical norms to suit each new generation, but never straying far from the overarching principles that underlie the whole. No other political system anywhere, or at any time, has achieved so much in terms of human freedoms.
If you want to trigger the final phase of unrestricted capitalism and frontier-removal, you will need to prepare the society for what is coming: humans can be whatever they want to be regardless of anyone’s objections or rights, all borders and boundaries must be dismantled and people must understand that their survival depends on being obedient. In other words, we are being softened up to accept a totalitarian-capitalist hybrid where everyone is secondary to the ‘project’ – which is to revolutionise humanity itself to prepare it for an existence of servitude to those objectives that are deemed fit only for the few. ‘Transhumanism’ is the ultimate aim and ad astra is the ultimate project, with resources being channelled gradually into those. There is gold in them thar planets.
Writers, in particular, have seen it coming for at least a half-century and life is being sped-up like an out-of-control roundabout to cast off those who cannot hold on hard enough. The ‘trans’ project was simply the vanguard of something much bigger, and, although it has been pushed back in many areas, it has not been defeated and will only pop up again, challenging the law in order to weaken and subdue it.
Human beings have managed to deflect the worst ravages that the worst among us have managed to concoct and unleash on us, so we might beat it off, but not if the billionaires and their enablers, the politicians, have their way. The means? To make the electorate (and the politicians) so stupid as to afford no chance of successful resistance. On the other hand, we might just blow ourselves to kingdom come first. Either way, the hoi polloi will pay the price while we venerate the idiots who brought us to this state. ‘Be kind’ is going to kill us all.
The Hard Left, I never knew there was such a thing? Socialist have given a lot more than they have ever taken. I’ve been a socialist all my life and no one will ever convince me otherwise.
All of The National subscribers was at this event apart from Peter A Bell so really it was 14,999.
All the same individual crying in the wind, what do we want, Independence, when do we want it, now, how do we get it through a section 30 order process.
Its a sure bet that all of these zombies who attended will vote SNP 1 & 2 and reform thanks you from the bottom of their cold heart.
Even Gordon Ross has now decided to join ATLS I suppose its better late and never but at leased the guy is a true Indy supporter unlike the one’s who use us for our votes and money and that’s it.
Ken how you get that gut feeling, I never ignore mines and its telling me that the opinion polls are wrong about the SNP support. I just don’t believe the SNP and Greens will get enough seats.
So the question is, for ATLS if they do win seats and lets be honest if Lorna Slater can win so can they. Will ATLS put the SNP back into power or keep them out?
Well well well.
From the horses “mouth”..
Humza Useless on becoming a backbencher:
“I had nothing to do”!
Hardly a shining endorsement of the wee parish cooncil doon the bottom of the Royal Mile.
Can anyone remind us how much an MSP gets paid to sit with “nothing to do”?
He should go and have a chat with the Tories; they’ve had nothing to do since the place opened:-)
Young Lochinvar @ 17.12.
Could that be “from the ass’s mouth ?”.
Yup..
You know what grips me; these testimonial interviews?
What about his rank failures in post on transport (ultimately passed on to the equally clueless and gormless loose cannon Gilruth) or “hate-man”/ busy diary elsewhere Justice ministers portfolios.
Where are the rank decimations of these incompetent tenures eh?
40 years old and on the “reflection”!
Classic no-stamina generation; should have stamped on the Greens hard from the get go but instead biffed about trying to play the same deviant cards handed to him by his predecessor till events simply overtook him.
Ass indeed..
Off Topic.
Well, now we know Ms Sturgeon’s next earner, she’ll be a “celebrity” guest on the ITV Programme The Assembly.
Obviously a prelude to her new career in the entertainment business; surely Get me Out of Here I’m a Celeb and similar opportunities await. It used to be said that politics was showbiz for ugly people, now it seems that showbiz may be showbiz for ugly people.
Sven
If she wasn’t prosecuted on the basis of “not being in the public interest” then she shouldn’t appear on tv for the exact same criteria..
Goose and gander an’ that..
Kitkat state’s shops shouldn’t sell these stolen treats and should contact kitkat.
Even the acting talent that is the world famous Brian Cox (albeit he was working with a poor script) could not inspire indigenous independence supporting Scots to show up at a unionist rally pertendin tae be a Scottish independence gaitherin.
Cox, nearer to his end than his beginning and in a fit of nostalgia for a childhood and a time in a country lang syne lost to him, comes late to the Scottish liberation ‘fight’ and has little notion of the real challenges faced by the Scots in their contest to wrestle back their stolen nation from the foreign power that stole it.
Cox doesn’t know enough to distinguish between the good guys and the bad in Scotland’s struggle to escape English oppression; sadly, in his ignorance, Cox has aligned himself with the bad guys – because Believe in Scotland… really doesn’t.
Saturday’s “We Believe in Scotland… but only as a region of England” march was bad for the SNP, bad for Westminster, and bad for the Union, but good for liberty seeking, freethinking, free-spirited Scots hell-bent tae frethe thersels fae Ingland’s captur and recover their reived soverignty aff thon perfidious foreign thief.
It’s encouraging to see that the SNP and it’s co-conspirator – Believe in Scotland – together, and wi a big shot movie star, anaw, couldn’t fool the majority of liberty seeking independence supporting Scots on Saturday.
The real independence movement stayed well clear of Saturday’s English inspired ‘Let’s Pretend We Support Scottish independence’ pantomime.
The SNP is not a friend to Scotland… it is the exact opposite so do not, under any circumstances, vote for England’s Scottish Trojan Horse in May.
The SNP must now be consigned tae the midden o treichery and all Scots obliged to spit oot its venom if they ever agin hear it’s traisonable name spak oot aloude.
… So who, pray, are you giving your hard fought and hard won vote for, Northie?
Or – don’t tell me – are you drawing a great big penis on your ballot paper, thinking that’s a real “edgy” thing to do for an 80-year old?
Aye, draw a great big ‘Captain Caveman’ on your ballot paper, folks.
Assume you’ll be planning your normal dirty protest in the polling booth “James”?
Heh. Like, as if that imbecile is on the Electoral Roll… probably doesn’t even have a fixed address.
Dirty protest? What’s that, voting Tory?
More your two’s style, I’d say.
Unfortunately CC that isn’t going to stop him, from the electoral commission website:
How can homeless people register?
A homeless person will not have a permanent home address and therefore will not be able to register as an ordinary elector. They may make an application to register by local connection at an address where they spend a substantial part of their time, whether during the day or night. It may, for example, be a bus shelter, a park bench or the doorway to a high street store.
Ah… well then, maybe he can nominate the cornershop where he purchases his daily supply of eight cans of “Ace” own-label brand lager! 😀
(If you know, you know etc.)
8 Ace? My favourite tipple. Cheers, Yoontrolls.
Ah well, at least you have a sense of humour! 😀
“Heh. Like, as if that imbecile is on the Electoral Roll… probably doesn’t even have a fixed address.”
Says the aresholes that don’t even live in this country therefore has no vote – park bench or otherwise. You can go open some jellied eels & watch the dinghies come in instead.
It is “edgy” to spoil yer ballot. Failed politicians get to read them & they’re still counted that they were all shite.
The UK system is shite. Starmer won 33% yet minces around the place. Blowhard before him was 43%. SNP 45% Yet we’re the ones that are forbidden democracy.
What a shite state of affairs.
… Whereas you don’t even live in the fucking UK, “Geri”, let alone Scotland, so maybe pipe down mate.
I can say with absolute confidence that the quality of life in the U.K. and in Scotland is much much better for the average person than in any of the authoritarian regimes you support and fluff for on a regular basis.
“Geri”
You are, by far, the most obvious foreign-based troll “working this site”.
Piss off !
I live in Scotland. Unlike you three deadbeat fuds.
No one is interested in yer Reform pish around these parts.
Fck off yersel back to the Daily Fail comments page.
& Don’t speak to Scots about authoritarian regimes. You English fannies never did have any self awareness.
Those authoritarian regimes you speak of have far more public support than the 33% fanny in No10 running the UK.
Where is this great uprising you Colonisers thought would happen? I see there was millions out protesting against Trump. Shall someone go in & rescue them? Looks like he’s going to win regime change afterall – his own.
Do they really? If these regimes are so popular, then why do they need to imprison and execute people for the crime of speaking out against them? Let me guess, they were all foreign operatives. Soldiers fired machine guns indiscriminately into crowds of people on the street and only hit foreign operatives.
We’re 10’s of thousands of people shot dead for protesting against Trump, either this weekend or at any point?
This is one of the great benefits of living in a democracy Geri, even if it does enable unhinged comments from the likes of yourself to pollute the public square.
“Let me guess, they were all foreign operatives. Soldiers fired machine guns indiscriminately into crowds of people on the street and only hit foreign operatives.”
I replied to this yesterday but it disappeared.
Go read the NYT article ” *you know who* thought it could spur rebellion inside…”
Read it & weep. Maybe someone could archive a link?
& Five alive eyes kills leaders, opposition, scientists, jurnos etc, ect EVERY SINGLE DAY around the globe. Do you think they’ll shout about it in the Daily Fail to let you goons know?
There’s also been plenty of Independence campaigners who’ve met an untimely death.
In Germany at the moment, seven AfD have dropped dead. Aye, that’s not suspicious at all.
Oh this will be fun – do let me about this Scottish independence supporters who have met an untimely death and the convincing evidence you have that (as you imply) the British security services were involved?
Testing …
link to archive.today
Btw, Clinton’s have about ten organisations they fund around the world that recruit rent-a-mob activist operations to start a colour revolution or regime change. They bus them in & give them a flag.
USAID is another. They’ve spent $billions in U. Even boast about it at their wee congress committees It’s well documented Soros invested heavily in the U Maidan coup oo that’s lost them a huge chunk of their territory. That same fictitious grievance they start everywhere. It’s what Colonisers do.
& Do fuck off you ignoramus. I’m not here to spoon feed morons with historical events. The fact you don’t even know only further proves you aren’t from around these parts. Get back under yer bridge, troll.
“working this site”
Are you a rent boy? LOL!
blimey. I can see the relevance to yer handle now, insider. Why do you three goons “go overboard ” with the “quotation marks ” It kinda “blows yer syntax”
Off you pop now. Back tae Limey. This is a Scottish politics site.
“I live in Scotland”
😀
Yeah, course you do mate (lol). Along the same lines as “I’ve never been banned”, no doubt. 😀