Wings Over Scotland

Unbelievable. And yet, I believe it.

Ooops

Deliberately undermining her “own” country whilst encouraging England to sign the deal.

Next time we hear Ruthie claiming to be a Scot we should tell her to feck offf

I have Collins here, looking for a picture of Ruth for their new definition of hypocrisy.

We all know why Davidson gets away with this.

The rabid unionist press has her back covered and are entirely focussed on exaggerating, or more likely inventing, SNP Bad stories.

Which companies the MOU was signed with are on the Norwegian list?link to nbim.no

James Dornman, SNP MSP, has tweeted this graphic to Ruth.

I still think May put the mix into this. Her signing Hinckley, and the Scottish deal falling, are no coincidence.

Gordon Brewer and Gary Robertson will be lining up to tear strips off her for this..

Any minute now..

Davidson’s sole mission in politics is to damage Scotland in an attempt to make self determination more difficult. That now seems to be the Unionists’ main long term strategy.

Brian Powell says:

11 November, 2016 at 11:26 am

One of her constituents could email these two statements to her and ask for an explanation.
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Every reader in Glasgow is a constituent, as she is a list MSP. She may argue that she was speaking as Tory Branch Manager, as opposed to an MSP

Ally says:
11 November, 2016 at 11:49 am

Every reader in Glasgow is a constituent, as she is a list MSP. She may argue that she was speaking as Tory Branch Manager, as opposed to an MSP

No she isn’t Ally … sorry.

She WAS up until May but in the May elections she won a constituency seat in Edinburgh.

BBC England – China very very good.

BBC Scotland – China very very bad.

link to youtube.com

Are you getting this yet, No voters? Are you seeing the utter duplicity in these Yoon creatures who would happily take the food off your table?

The word doublethink comes to mind…

Arbroath1320

I should have said, ‘as many of her constituents as have read this’, should contact her.

Lies and denial seem to be the in thing with right wing politicians at the moment. Sadly the mainstream media seem to want to let them get away with it at every turn.

It should be apparent to everyone living in Scotland by now, that Ruth the mooth, and dizzy Dug-tail , and wee willy wonker, are not in the least bit interested in doing anything or supporting anything, that might benefit Scotland . there only purpose in the SG is to undermine, and do what ever it takes to destroy the SNP . And to save the union, for there Imperial Masters in Westminster .

Of course the Scottish Government could do more to expose these lies themselves. They shouldnt meekly accept GERS and OBR data as factual. They should demand evidence of data and stats presented. They should demand detail not just accept a number thrown at them to be taken at face value.
The Scottish Government does itself no favours when it meekly allows the most blatant lying to go unchallenged.

Sorry for going O/T so early but thought everyone would want to know they can breathe a little easier now. Wee Georgie the towel folder, remember him peeps ;), is to become a member of the Order of the Companions of Honour today.

Quick someone pass the sick bu…. too late … DAMN!

link to archive.is

It does no one any favours to criticise the SNP Scottish Gov for matters out of their control because People voted NO. The power is in the People’s hand. One person one vote, Vote wisely.

Vote SNP/SNP. May 2017 Vote for Independence.

Hold on
On the 9th November the managing director of the Chinese company says the deal is still on, on the 10th it’s off.

“I don’t think the deal is off … We are awaiting the Scottish side to build a work team for it,” Peter Zhang, managing director of SinoFortone Group, told the Global Times on Tuesday”

That’s this Tuesday, it’s Friday what gives?

All very well but this is after the event ,
Nicola Sturgeon needs to drop the nice and reasonable approach to all the unionist parties , she should have wiped the floor with Davidson yesterday , She should be interrupting them when their question is preceded by a political rant and ask if there is a question forthcoming during this preamble , This weekly political hatchet job is now being used without censure by a useless to the point of being a spectator Labour mouthpiece Ken Macintosh .
I suggest Nicola Sturgeon immediately employs advisors who are up to the job because blows are being landed on a daily basis and by the looks of it totally without reply , most people on here could have Davidson on the ropes without breaking sweat

Not to be mentioned on Call Kaye

move along nothing to see here

Is anyone noticing a difference in the voice clarity and volumes used in the BBC recordings of first ministers question.

Is anyone monitoring the voice patterns

AULD ROCK 11-58
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You are not wrong.

“BBC Last Updated: Monday, 1 May 2006, 01:13 GMT 02:13 UK
Trump becomes Scotland ambassador

Mr Trump will join the the Globalscot network to promote Scotland
US business tycoon Donald Trump is to become an ambassador for Scotland, it has been announced.

After accepting an invitation from First Minister Jack McConnell, Mr Trump will join a network of influential people who promote the country.”

Why does the SNP keep on wishing that the media will do the honourable.

I think it’s the SNP who are too wee and stupid in their outlook to the media. They have to learn to use social media better, stop doing interviews with msm and fight harder and stronger if they want to win. Lying get down and hoping the media will stroke their belly like a little lap dog isn’t cutting the mustard !!

Robert Graham

Ab so bloody lutly

I know the word is frowned on, but i’m sorry, she is a ("Quizmaster" - Ed). She is deliberatly working to undermine her own country.

WOW!

It all seems to be kicking off today in one form or another methinks. 😉

Apologies for another O/T here but I really need help with this one. I just can not get my wee head round this news. Has someone at Lib Dem Branch office (phone box at East end of Princes Street in Edinburgh) had a nightmare, read the writing on the wall or have they really seen the light? 😀

link to archive.is

Blatant political manipulation and lies exposed by the alternative media yet again….we get to see through the hypocrisy and political gesturing while others remain poorly informed and reliant on news from an agenda driven MSM.

Shocking that so many voters sleep walk through life oblivious to the truth . We supposedly now live in a digital age where access to information is at our fingertips but instead there are those who choose to be willingly brainwashed by tabloid churnalists who are intent on churning out constant propaganda driven political spin to promote their party of choice.

This exposé from Wings today is exactly what any REAL Journalist should be highlighting and exposing but unfortunately we have a hostile media who are controlled by affluent owners supportive of unionist political parties and broadcasting companies aligned to the Tory government.

Truth is not an option in our media, one only has to look today at the conflicting headlines in the newspapers on the UK/USA ‘special’ relationship to see political affiliations at play.

There are so many voters who are in denial , some through choice and some through ignorance.

The Tories are NOT holding the SG to account but are deflecting attention away the reality of the total failure of their HQ party . Their conflicting statements are evidence that they are confident that the media will not hold them , the real villains, to account but instead will present the SG as the incompetent villains and once more the distinctly unsavoury and seedy side of politics is undeservedly victorious.

The MSM should most definitely be our target come Indy 2 and the promotion of the alternative media should be publicised by us as much as possible to the uninitiated , because we all have to make a concerted effort to both challenge and expose the untruths and omissions that are both conspicuous by their inaccuracy and absence.

Knowledge is power. We have the knowledge but sadly so many do not…….lets try and change that.

Dan Huil says:

Davidson is loved by the bbc. When it comes to Scotland the bbc is the big lie.

“For all its flaws, the honest and nice BBC has retained the status once enjoyed by the US networks, broadly trusted to play umpire between competing claims on the truth – or at least to try.”

Its Graun’s Jonathan Freedland. He wont mind plagiarists like me. That’s a lie. Never thought of Jacky Bird as an umpire before, much more of a player.

We are all well aware the unionist politicians are only there to do Scotland down in any way possible. Voters are seeing this in the same way they see the media bias.

I have had a few conversations this week, folk are becoming more aware. Much anger being directed at the Tory & Lib dems in regard to Fort George.

Re the Chinese deal or no deal…

link to globaltimes.cn

@Mike says: 11 November, 2016 at 12:07 pm:

“The Scottish Government does itself no favours when it meekly allows the most blatant lying to go unchallenged.”

Nice try Mike but we are not so daft as not to realise you have just done exactly the same thing with that claim as the three Unionist party Scotland branch managers are doing at Holyrood.

You have just sided with them by blaming the SNP.
The truth of the matter is that the SNP are allowing those who are hell bent upon blaming the SNP for everything, “get away with it”, in the sure and certain knowledge that, in the main, the Scottish electorate have cottoned on to the Unionist duplicity and also to the Scottish media’s complicity in the lies and omission of their, “SNP BAD”, campaign.

All evidence points to that conclusion. Nicola’s and the SNP’s popularity are continuing to grow. As are the figures throw up in opinion polls that Scots voters are generally more satisfied with the things the SNP BAD campaign is attempting to demonise.

These are mostly Education, Police Force, Fracking Moratorium, Council Tax freeze and the independent Scottish NHS performance.

All of which figures show the Scottish performance is better by far that the rest of the United Kingdom’s and the Scottish voters know it.

It’s the Tory/Unionist that need to be brought to account. They haven’t a clue what they are doing,

Appalling Illegal changes to the benefits system were broke in this week. By Unionists Parties They will disproportionately affect vulnerable women and children. It will result in death. They are all culpable and have broken the Law. It is having to be taken to Law courts to stop their criminality and protect human rights of basic dignity. An absolute disgrace. Hinkley Point, HS2 and Heathrow expansion is a complete and utter disgraceful waste of taxpayers money and will endorse the North/South Divide. While vulnerable people are starved.

Davidson or her Party does not support women. The only woman Davidson supports is herself.

@Andrew Mclean

I read that link when you first posted it a couple of days ago. There’s an even clearer statement reported in Chinese media just this morning.

The deal” has definitely NOT been cancelled according to this report.

With Labour and Conservative opponents of Sturgeon’s Scottish National Party blasting her government for its handling of the affair, by August, reports said the deal was dead.

“The deal is actually on hold,” Zhang said, citing a slowdown on the Scottish side as the reason.

link to ecns.cn

LibDem ‘pro Independence’. Just another stunt. They are funded from Westminster HQ. They try it every time any Election time. To try and save themselves. They were the Party of Home Rule. Look what happened to that. Just a bunch of total chancers. Liars. They enabled the Tories to make the complete mess. Do not trust them one inch. ‘You promised a Rose Garden’ Take off the rose coloured spectacles. They are craven liars.

Vote SNP/SNP. Vote for Independence.

How dare you Scots speak to the world without the UK doing it for you.

That about sums it up we try to bring investment to grow the good balanced economy we have and at every turn there is some UK britnat twat saying no and doing everything they can to block it and ruin it.

Some might say certain parts of the UK political system do not want to see Scotland be prosperous.

Ruth is an utter disgrace to our parliament and so are her flunkies.

Thepnr says:
11 November, 2016 at 1:08 pm
@Andrew Mclean

I read that link when you first posted it a couple of days ago. There’s an even clearer statement reported in Chinese media just this morning.

The deal” has definitely NOT been cancelled according to this report.

link to ecns.cn

Someone with more time and contacts should send this link to BBC / STV/ MSM and see which would dare run with it.

Amnesty International is funded by George Soros. A right wing think tank. A fraud. Right wing propaganda.

@Robert J. Sutherland says: 11 November, 2016 at 12:20 pm:

” … But I wonder if this SNPbaaaaad thing is being well overplayed now, and thus being heavily discounted by people.”

You bet your life it has, Robert. All evidence shows that their spiteful and duplicitous campaign has failed miserably but it is NOT up to we independence supporters to alert them to that fact.

All their efforts have failed as the SNP government’s popularity continues to increase and Nicola Sturgeon’s personal popularity outstrips the others by the proverbial country mile.

The maxim that, “You should never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake”, seems to be the right advice to follow in this case.

May they continue with their mistake and may the SNP continue not to interrupt them while they make it.

Still puzzled as to why SNP govt are admitting they need to learn lessons from this???

Not a mention of the introduction of the latest Blue Tory Austerity benefits cap on Monday 7th which results in families losing between £50 and £120 a week in benefits, disability payments and supplementary pensions.
Those who live in high rent areas will be forced to use money for food heating and clothing to pay their exorbitant rents or face eviction. Blue Tory Britain, Ruth Davidson’s Britain, don’t you just love it. The woman is evil..
Meanwhile what does Wullie do?

‘I agree with Ruth Davidson’.

Let’s waffle on about a Chinese MOU, and ignore the fact that Ruth Davidson is an out and out liar, yet again. Smirking the Queen’s Eleven Murdo joined in the Chinese Torture, and Carlow lied by asserting that the SNP hadappointed Trump as Trade Ambassador.

No they didn’t : that would be Jack McConnell, Lord Fucking McConnell, now coining it in down in London Town.

The Blue Tories were laughing their heads off during FMQ, cat calling and heckling like wee preppies in a fee paying school dining hall.
They are evil, frankly. They are out to destroy Scotland and its people.
Meanwhile the Presiding Officer, who like Davidson, worked for BBC Scotland, lets it all happen, without a challenge.

I dipped into Scotland 2016.

Sure as shooting the Chinese Boo Boo and a wee photie op for Davidson barnstorming, and a heavily edited couple of sentences from the FM, then two guest commentators, of whom I have never heard, uttering SNP BAD odious tossery.
‘Tossery’.

There, I’ve coined a new word for the lies, and distortions of the BBC, their former employee and Strictly hopeful, Davidson, and her gaggle of List Hangers On.
The Presiding Officer and also ex BBC man, Kenny Mac.lets it all unfold without intervention.
Ruth Davidson lies on a weekly basis now.
The Better Together Rainbow Alliance of Tory Unionists don’t even try to hide it any more.
Their aim is to destroy any semblance of joined up government by any means.
And the So Called Scottish Labour Party? Not a peep of protest at the latest round of Blue Tory cuts to the poorest, and rewards to the richest.
Time we got out of this corrupt bloated little Union.

the NPR

I read your link it quotes the same source, I have emailed my MSP, and Global times, I will see what Johnstone press know?

For the record eh? I’ve never heard an official reason from the Tories or Labour about why they hid the McCrone report for 30 years. So Ms Davidson & Dugdale, as your parties current representatives, why was the McCrone report hidden by successive UK governments for so long. Because without knowing the official reasons for a deceit of such magnitude, we can only assume that your parties are lying fraudulent little Westminster’s that care nothing about Scotland, and that they still are and always will be. Until proven otherwise, such a state of affairs needs to be foremost in people’s minds when listening to the ‘UK’ parties latest claims.

Phil Robertson says:

Is that what flip flopped Ruthie babes Phil?

With all due respect as they say , Mr Robert Peffers yer talking Pish in my humble opinion ,The way the SNP are handling the Unionist parties by treating them with respect might suite you but i suspect not everyone would agree ,
Me and my type eh really and what the f/k do you know of Me and my type ? . Who made you the king of the hill ? and your opinion is the only one to be listened to , and if you want to make it personal carry on Friend , by the way Friend is not a term of endearment where i come from , What’s up having a bad day Friend ?

Why all the indigenous comments on bribery, I thought that was the British way, I could list all the companies, but my fingers would destroy my machine.

I think the only similarity between the Brexit referendum and the independence referendum is that given the chance again the results would be different.

O/T
To Smallaxe,

Rt Hon David Mundell MP
Member of Parliament for Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale
House of Commons
London, SW1A 0AA
Thank you very much for contacting me. This is an automated response to confirm that your email has been received and will be dealt with as soon as possible. I receive a large volume of mail from constituents and would therefore appreciate your patience in awaiting a response.
If you would like to discuss your enquiry, please call my constituency staff on 01683 222746 or email helen.gardner@parliament.uk

No reply so far, maybe it is because I made an inquiry and not an “enquiry”. I wrote to Fundly Mundelly on the 10th of October! I will not be a pedant about “would therefore” and correct it to would,therefore, OH, I JUST DID.

I will not be giving Him any Peace.

Scott @2-45pm

I wrote to The Presiding Officer concerning the “Mooth’s” lies when she quoted those English NHS figures in Holyrood.

Don’t hold yer breath! Took a few weeks and then a ‘nowt to do wi me, pal’ reply!!

@Andrew Mclean

Dr Peter Zhang Managing Director of the SinoFortone Group is also currently Deputy Director Overseas Department, China Railway Construction Engineering No.3 Group where for 6 years previously he was General Manager.

As you know these are the two companies that were signatories to the MOU with the Scottish Government.

link to uk.linkedin.com

It is also very interesting that this group has committed to £5.2 Billion of investment in England & Wales in the last 12 months without a murmur from the Tories.

From the BBC link to archive.is

Ruthie and the Tories – Pot, Kettle, Black.

Macart
The moment of my self-empowerment was when my Head of Dep. informed me that they weren’t able to ‘award’ me honours. I’ll not go in to details, but for a man who had previously towered over me, he did appear to rapidly take on much diminished presence before I left. That’s how I remember it anyway and one of the many reasons I’m channeling a lot of hostility. Hope I’m not concerning anyone.

Won’t be long. 😉

If you have tears, prepare to shed some for the tory press

Papers go bust,

link to archive.is

From

“But the crisis facing both newspapers and their publishers is exactly the same: their business model, which is based around advertising revenue, is in the process of being destroyed.”

to

“That’s why I support the call by the Media Reform Coalition (MRC) and National Union of Journalists to impose a 1% levy on the operations of Google and Facebook in order to fund public service reporting.”

My local paper, neo fascist Voice of the North Press and Journal, is currently running a ferocious Scots.gov smear campaign based on trying to enrage Aberdonians that their hard earned council tax is NOT going to local services schools but is really being funnelled down to Glasgow by the evil and cruel Nic Sturgeon and isn’t that a terrible terrible thing! So Vote tory.

And that’s just the tip of a very wide ranging, very aggressive vote Tory/vote NO campaign by the P&J.

Begging Google and Facebook to chip in, is oddly toryboy though.

Phil Robertson,
aye ok found it, link to etikkradet.no
Norges Bank (NBIM) manages the Fund and makes decisions to exclude companies from the Fund’s portfolio based on advice from the Council.Norges Bank provides a list of companies excluded from the Fund’s portfolio.
link to nbim.no
which company?

@ heedtracker says at 3:29 pm “Begging Google and Facebook to chip in, is oddly toryboy though.”

Probably the least Google can do to help out the Tories, seeing as Osborne let them dodge so much tax.

Jockanese Wind Talker

Google dont give up any cash ever. Its not even clear what the Graun ligger means either,

“I support the call by the Media Reform Coalition (MRC) and National Union of Journalists to impose a 1% levy”

Nice but who are they calling on to impose this new google tax anyway?

Ghastly irony UKOK style, same tory hacks help planet toryboy destroy unionism in their UK and yet here we are, their unions pleading planet toryboy for help, now that its their turn to look into the abyss.

They cant all work at the BBC either. Although it may explain the ongoing mass UKOK hackdom grovelfest to the BBC.

First they came for the miners, steel workers, dockers…

A monument to hypocrisy.

… or amnesia.

… or both.

O/T:again sorry.
GREENPEACE

Hi Smallaxe,

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Tell Roseanna Cunningham, http://www.roseannacunningham.com, to create a bottle deposit return scheme in Scotland.

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There is already a huge amount of public and political support for the creation of a scheme in Scotland. Tell Roseanna Cunningham to listen to the concerns of Scottish people and take action to protect our oceans.

Scotland was ahead of the curve on the plastic bag charge – now there’s an opportunity to lead the way in the UK towards solving this plastic problem.

With thanks,

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[1] Source: link to science.sciencemag.org

Thepnr says:

I cant see the Chinese corp on that list either. They also didn’t like Boeing and Airbus either.

The NPR

Something’s fishy here, has Westminster been leaning on China to kill any investment,
To answer that first forget the names, regardless of what they call themselves they are the Chinese government.
Next look at the timeline.
Next look at the intervention of the Westminster government on halting existing investment.
Next look how quickly that review took place, really it takes them years to decide anything, third runway as a case in point.
Next look where the story about the cancellation came from,
Next look at the statement this week fro the MD of the company involved.
Next all media in China is state controlled
Next read the article in the Chinese media, what are they trying to say, actually they are not hiding it one bit, they actually had it in top news and economy least someone missed it.
Next look at the conservatives in Holyrood lining up to be the saviour, possibly or just putting the knife in, the knife that was given them by Mz T May.

Most of that is fact, some conjecture, but it is all logical.

What we are seeing is a con, a dupe, but this is not Machiavellian, it’s to in your face for that!

This song has a long way to go.

For god’s sake there must a journalist out there who works for the [for want of a better term] traditional media who has the guts and integrity to follow up on “Chinagate” and Westminster’s duplicitous role therein.

Ruth Davidson is a liar.

A liar of the first order (and so is torrances of urine and MacDimwit et al).

Sue me.

Go ahead and sue me you shower of British nationalist, lying thugs.

Sue me in an international court of justice where you will be held to account.

Go ahead and sue me.

Lying, immoral and intellectual head fucks.

Sue me you unadulterated, lying, ducking and diving, strangers to the truth animals.

The Indian sub-continent simply borrowed your animalistic techniques.

Sue me, Rennie, Dugdale, and Davidson.

Go for it, you cohort of thugees.

Thepnr says:
11 November, 2016 at 4:06 pm

That’s funny, the China Railway Group don’t seem to be on that list of excluded companies from the Norway oil fund. I notice too that it was updated on 30th Sept 2016.
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Even if it was, Norway can afford to be picky when they have an $880 billion oil fund.

We aren’t in the same position, and so long as England is happy to accept Chinese investment, especially with Scottish taxpayer subsidy, then unionist politicians can’t complain.

We shouldn’t be turning up our nose at deals that can provide cheap infrastructure or housing that is sorely needed.

Not sure we should lament any collapse of ‘deals’ with China. Although I cannot claim any experience or direct involvement, I have witnessed such ‘deals’ being implemented in other places. Especially in different African countries.

I may be biased, but it alays seemed to me that there was only one real winner. And it wasn’t any of the African countries. Even where there seemed to be short-term gain it always seemed to be followed by long-term pain.

No one, I suppose, does ‘trade deals’ for the benefit of the other. Partners are for exploiting … O’leary’s Law, perhaps? And the Chinese are a very able people … who do now have considerable experience in these things.

Scotland, beware!

With regard to the Chinese company saying in other parts of the Press that the potential ‘deal’ is not dead, that the behaviour of the Opposition Parties is not a hindrance to it, that the problem is the Scottish Government’s inexperience in negotiating these things … and that they are awaiting the SG to come back with a response to some proposition or other that is not set out … etc.

Beware of all that too!

Why would anyone automatically believe that such statements are true? I would tend to think that Nicola Sturgeon told the parliament exactly what the Chinese company told her. Which is perfectly correct on her part, but does not mean that she / the SG is being set up.

The company can easily say one thing to her, and come out with something else in the Press immediately afterwards. Not at all impossible …

Maybe – who knows? – this is all part of ‘negotiating tactics’. How to embarrass and put pressure on the potential partner in order to pressurise him into giving you what you want. Probably on even less favourable terms than you originally offered …

And surely Chinese companies are quite clever enough to exploit the differences between the UK and the Scottish governments … Playing it now one way, now the other – al to win the prize, get what they want. Even eeming to help one or the other, or even do a favour for one against the other, but for one reason only: in view of gaining Chinese advantage, and lining Chinese pockets …

When you play these kind of ‘Chinese Chequers’ – with very big ‘cheques’ involved indeed – expect surprises. And also ‘layers’ and ‘layers’ of – well, what else can you call it? – deceit. No one does a ‘trade deal’ out of charity – the aim is profit. And my ‘profit’ is always likely to be ‘your’ loss …

I may be over-suspicious, but I will be quite happy if this particular deal does indeed fall through.

I also think we need to be within a trading block that has rules to help us save ourselves from our own potential folly. Rules, too, however imperfect, that provide some safeguards to ordinary people, not least from their own governments. The EU, it seems to me, is the only sensible long-term option for both these things.

England and Wales, it seems to me, have lost their heads. I don’t glory in that. It is really very sad. And where will it end for them? Who wants to sail alone in such shark-infested global waters?

Scotland beware.

Let’s fight to maintain what we voted for: full European citizenship.

Sky complaining about fake News.

How low can they go.

Trump won the US election by being more truthful . He uses brash language which get misreporting, intentionally. Like many people do. Doesn’t swear. Trump was more truthful than the other candidate. Clinton didn’t lose because she was a woman. She lost because of Her attributes. Obama made false promises and did not keep them.

At least Trump can count and read a balance sheet and negotiate a Deal. If Trump can save the US from bankruptcy. He has done the world a favour. Things have to change.

The First Minister should have realised by now that trying to be polite to a tory, liebour or lib who? is deemed to be a sign of weakness at FM questions.
The Presiding Officer will not intervene.
So FM attack the lies DIRECTLY.
Thanks

@wull 4:45pm

It’s not the final outcome of any deal which matters now; it’s Westminster’s role in all of this mess which matters now.

The Holyrood Electoral system is rigged. The Unionist rigged it to their advantage. So much for Democracy. 3rd rate rejects. Not one person one vote. One person – cancel out your vote. The electorate will get wise.

The Greens don’t promote women. 6 MPS male liars. Manipulating, unpopular pressure group. Their campaigning and lies at the last Holyrood election was a complete revelation. Getting vote on the SNP coat tails from SNP voters. To attack the SNP. A disgrace. Turncoats. They could cost Scotland jobs and investment and muck up Independence. Colluding with the Unionists.

Trump doesn’t suffer fools gladly. The Tory Cabinet/Westminster/Unionists had better look out. Chalk and cheese.

10% of US voters are of Scottish descent. Trump gained the Presidency by 1% Trump gained the Presidency because of the Green/Independent vote. There are Senate elections every two years. A large Scottish lobby.

Farague and Johnston are a couple of fools. Farague is an alcoholic who needs proper rehab counselling. Johnston needs counselling.

Re my comments at 4:39pm.

Just want to clarify the following:
“Crowdfunded and delivered by WOS. It would also bring a power of advertising and, hopefully, new readers to WOS.”

It would create a power of advertising *for* WOS and hopefully bring in a lot of new readers. At very least it would get these gophers exposed in their own back yards for the liars they are.

Even a wee 10-page WOS Newsletter would do the trick.

If Scotland can remain in the EU then the potential for inward investment is vast. Never mind what it collects now but a Scottish government collecting it’s own taxes from this additional inward investment will have huge implications for all in Scotland.

I’m not even talking about jobs and the better infrastructure may bring I’m talking about an increase in Scottish government revenue that will allow them to invest in the things that will make ordinary Scots life better.

Better health care, better roads, better training, better education. The list of possibilities is endless and is one of the main reasons for Westminster trying to prevent control of our own destiny as their system of government will be shown up for what it really is. A big fat lie and a disgrace.

Greedy politicians, pigs feeding at the trough belonging to the majority of the people at the behest of lobbyists for big corperations, disgraceful people the lot of them. They, the Tories would be out on their arse in a flash once a properly run government working on behalf of it’s people embarrasses them by showing how things SHOULD be done.

We need to vote Yes in order to end this corruption surrounding us.

This is just what is expected from puppet Ruth of Westminster edtablishment. The game is not new a near copy of Darien Project events of 1700s.
Also this fits neatly with the recent release on twitter of utube BBC Alba banned programme caled Banned programme on Scottish Oil (The McCrone report)
All the jigsaw piecs now in place. When will SNP, Lib Dems, Greens lead wirh true education of people of Scotland about recent History and political events?

Onwards @ 4.43pm

Norway, as in the Norwegian Government, have been trying to mend fences with China since 2010 when the peace prize committee awarded the Peace Prize to a Chinese dissident who was in a Chinese prison at the time.

link to japantimes.co.jp

The Norwegian Pension Fund on the other hand is the one who is ‘picky’ when it comes to which companies it approves or disapproves of. Some of the UK Pension Funds can also be picky if put under enough pressure.

People, particularly those who criticised the MoU otherwise known as the ‘deal’, kept referring to Norway banning the Chinese Company clearly hoping everyone would think it was the Government when it was not. It was the Pension Fund. At one point the Fund had Siemens AG on their Observation list because of alleged corruption. Decidedly picky.

Interesting that the Chinese companies in question are no longer on the banned list.

Yes Kim Jong Un’s wee bully, dictator
Of a sister is a liar who hopes to destroy
All things Scottish on behalf of her Westminster
Bosses.

We all know this to be a fact, but pretty much
Only Wossers with the help of the Rev can see
The truth.

We are back to facing the problem that al of
The U.K. Media will do anything to back her up.

I pray that the Billboard campaign can condense
Lies like these that the masses can see.

I’d like to see billboards advertising WoS itself.

@Andrew Mclean says: 11 November, 2016 at 1:06 pm:

“Sorry I have to disagree, you can’t allow lies to be continued to propagate and expect there to be no negative impact.”

It is, of course your prerogative to disagree with me, Andrew, but my point is valid. Permit me to attempt to explain just why.

You are correct in so far as, “you can’t allow lies to be continued”, but the point is there is, in this case, no need to prevent the lies being continued. This is because all evidence points too the general public working out for themselves that the opposition claims are lies and omissions and the proof of that is the increasing figures showing the voter’s satisfaction with the Scottish Government’s performance and the FM’s own personal popularity and the public’s satisfaction with her performance.

If these figures were decreasing then it would be proof the unionist SNP BAD campaign was working. As it stands the figures show the public is moving towards SG support.

Then there is the point that if the SNP goes on the offensive that there would be the reaction activists are heart fully sick of hearing on doorsteps.

“Thae politicians ir aw the same”. is a sure indication that the person with such a view has concluded the SNP, and their activists, are equally guilty of lies, omissions and underhand tactics.

Thing is the trend is towards the SNP and not against them

@Andrew Mclean at 5.07pm

Thanks for the City AM link on the dangers of independence for the oil & gas sector. Just had a quick look and candidly the lack of analysis beggars belief.

This reporting of a BMI Research report, which you can’t see unless you pay £820, seems, intuitively, bizarre.

It states that Brexit is not having any impact on North Sea oil & gas production forecasts. This would be notable of course, since this is despite: (a) all the current uncertainties around in terms of the UK’s future trading relations; (b) uncertainties around the UK’s short to medium term economic performance, and also ( c ) in advance of knowing what the new Chancellor of the Exchequer will do to shift Tory Government policy in the Autumn Statement to mitigate any short term negatives of Brexit. So none of this matters much to prevailing uncertainties.

However, and apparently contradicting the above view that Brexit is forecast to have no effect, the marketing blurb on the BMI Research web site states “The UK’s vote to leave the EU has added to the headwinds facing the nation’s oil and gas producers”. OK, so ‘headwinds’ but no effect on production forecasts!

Therefore we should be relaxed about Brexit, but we should be afraid as “a successful second bid for Scottish independence could slash output in the region”. Forget Brexit, forget UK government policies, forget oil price changes, (presumably forget any Trump effects), it is a successful Indyref2 (uniquely) that would do the damage!!

BMI Research reportedly states that: “Oil production is expected to grow through the 2018, driven by investments made in the days of higher oil prices between 2010 and 2014.” So industry investments for the longer term were made in the North Sea anyway in the period leading up to Indyref1, despite all its dangerous uncertainties.

Independence is predicted to lead to “significant delays to new project investment, reduction of reinvestments, more job losses” despite going on to say that there is an upside scenario in which production could reach 1.1m bpd through among other things “reduction to the area’s frequently-slammed corporation tax”.

Yes, I know that the government of an independent Scotland could introduce a tax regime more favourable to the oil & gas sector than that which the UK government applies but the implication of the City AM article, oddly, is that only a UK government could possibly change the tax regime, of course never the government of an independent Scotland!

The really odd thing about this City AM article is in this extract: “If Scotland were to initiate leaving the UK, there would be …… more decommissioning due to tax incentives offered by Westminster.” So on leaving the UK, oil and gas production in Scottish waters would fall due to more decommissioning of production facilities resulting from tax incentives offered by Westminster? (shakes head!)

The Norwegian Pension Fund is absolutely correct if they have Siemens on their Observation List.
Siemens were heavily involved in a price-fixing cartel, and admitted to paying bribes, big bribes, in order to win contracts to build the Sao Paolo Metro in Brazil.

link to dw.com

There are a lot of European engineering firms that have dirty little secrets. Think of all the car makers who cheated on emission tests for years.

As I get older and wiser, the institutions that I trust get fewer and fewer.

Ian McCubbin says:
11 November, 2016 at 5:32 pm

Also this fits neatly with the recent release on twitter of utube BBC Alba banned programme caled Banned programme on Scottish Oil (The McCrone report)

Thanks for that, havent seen it before, heres the link

link to youtube.com

@Legerwood

STV covering the story

link to archive.is

It illustrates beautifully that Ruth Davidson’s task, probably set by her London masters, is to do down Scotland and the SNP at every turn.

I’ve aye maintained that the Government, or the SNP itself, need a clued-up press officer to respond to this shite on a daily basis. He/she won’t be short of work!

@Robert Graham says: 11 November, 2016 at 2:36 pm:

“With all due respect as they say , Mr Robert Peffers yer talking Pish in my humble opinion “

I appreciate your, “Due Respect”, Robert. You are always welcome to express your opinions as I am to express mine.

“The way the SNP are handling the Unionist parties by treating them with respect might suite you but i suspect not everyone would agree”

Taking your, and several other expressed opinions on this thread the evidence quite clearly indicates that there are those who hold very similar opinions to those expressed by you. They too are welcome to both express and hold such opinions. There is, though, a slight difference in how these opinions are expressed and how I have expressed my opinion. When I expressed my opinion I offered reasons for not only holding such opinions but also why they were, (in my opinion), correct. Have you done so?

“Me and my type eh really and what the f/k do you know of Me and my type?”

Well lets just see, shall we. I know you hold opinions that seem not to have any real substance or reason to be held except that they are your expressed opinion. Which was, of course, the reason I made a reply regarding that opinion and offered, (as my opinion), that you were wrong in holding such opinions. Are you seriously attempting to claim that my claims of the SG gaining public support and the party gaining members is untrue? For that is the evidence I offered in support of my opinion.

“Who made you the king of the hill”?

Considering I make no claims of being king of anything that seems to be a somewhat strange question – even for you to ask.

” … and your opinion is the only one to be listened to “.

Now just where did you obtain that little gem, Robert?

Have I ever said my opinions were the only ones to be listened to or were the only ones to hold?

” … and if you want to make it personal carry on Friend”

Get real, Robert. This is an open forum and as such is a venue for commenters to debate, (mainly the topics set by Rev Stu). Seems the concept of debate has escaped your notice and it is you, not I, attempting to shut debate down.

” … by the way Friend is not a term of endearment where i come from”,

Which beggars the obvious question of just where are you coming from with such expressions?

You did, after all begin this diatribe by saying, “With all due respect”. Now you seem to be attempting to tell the forum that the correct meaning of words, where you come from, does not mean the same thing to the rest of us where we come from. So when you say, “All due respect in must mean you are showing NO respect and your, “friends”, are not your friends”, where you come from. can we believe anything else you say?

” … What’s up having a bad day Friend?”

Eh! What on Earth has the kind of day I am having got to do with my opinions expressed on Wings? While opinions might change, “Where you come from”, depending upon the kind of day you are having most people, including myself, base their opinions upon the evidence as they perceive it and base it upon evidence obtained.

” … You might change your opinions depending The way the SNP are handling the Unionist parties by treating them with respect might suite you but i suspect not everyone would agree”

Could you express whatever it is you are attempting to impart in the above paragraph in simple English for those of us who do not, “Come from”, where you are. I based my opinions upon the evidence that I explained in my comment and not on either the day I was having nor upon some form of nebulous gut feeling. Did that simple evidence fly over your head? I’ll restate it for you.

All evidence indicates that the voters of Scotland are NOT being turned from support of either the Scottish Government nor the SNP by the lies and omissions of both the Yoons and the MSM. Evidence is that the SNP are still gaining new members and the votes for them are still going up. The losses in the last election were not due to numbers of voters falling for the number voting SNP increased, The losses were due to the crazy system of list candidates.

Where is the evidence you presented that the lies and omissions of the unionists have had the opposite effect?

Which brings us to the point that if the lies are having the opposite effect than what the Yoons intended why does it make any sense for the SNP to go on the attack – which was exactly the point I was making, However, that seems to mean something very different wherever it is, “You come from”.

Did anyone see this story reported on BBC or STV?

Mundell picking his beard and eating it.

The trouble for compulsive liars is it ends up no one believes a thing that they say. People are annoyed People do not like liars or fakes, trying to take them for fools or used.

ie MSM and Unionist politicians.