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Faith over experience

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    1. Xaracen says:

      Love the mug, and ‘Dundependin’. Hah!

    2. Hugh Jarse says:

      The dream will never die.
      A good Euro’s would be such a tonic for the troops.

      Holidays booked CC?

    3. Pixywine says:

      My wife’s cat loves dreamies and that’s not a euphemism.

    4. The Isolator says:

      Big smiles at that one Chris and Pixywine you owe me a new keyboard.

    5. Top hat and cane ?

    6. Jim Tadgercock says:

      Is the top hat and cane not a pop at the performing house jocks that craw oot the woodwork at major sporting events.

    7. Breeks says:

      Might be a sign of a split personality, but while the furore about taking the knee or not reminds me that sport is better without the politics, in spite of knowing that, I still have a wee hankering to see a Scotland Team, be it football, rugby, ice hockey or tiddlywinks, just doing something symbolic to register their support for Scottish Independence.

      (Be nice to see them winning too, but not winning can be just as powerful and emotive if you’ve acquitted yourselves with honour and tenacity.)

      Be resolute about your Nation’s future as an Independent Country… get a row of FIFA, even a ban. – It’s ok with me. Provoke the hysterical wrath of the BBC and wider propagandists. Just make sure you get right under their skin, but without spoiling or overshadowing the festival of sport for others.

      Show some fighting spirit that fortifies the resolve and determination of our Scottish Nation to once again stand full square and rightfully where it belongs as an equal among Nations. Don’t be content to exist forever as ‘also rans’.

      Is it a split personality to believe the curtailment of Scotland’s Nation status should never be far from people’s minds wherever and whenever Scotland is on show? What is the point of an International Tournament if not to mark this injustice with protest?

      Go out there and be giants Scotland. Enjoy yourselves. Hopefully your nation will do the rest.

    8. kapelmeister says:

      Which team will Murrell be rooting for?

      Scotland or the Cheques?

    9. Astonished says:

      Great cartoon.

      Kapelmeister – brilliant.

      Rev Stu : In light of the decision for Maya Forstater. Proving that anyone who tells the truth regarding genderwoowoo should not be denied services ( among other things). Are you going to sue twitter for £10 million ?

      Happy to crowdfund as those b@stards thoroughly deserve it.

      P.S. Anyone else feel sturgeon is losing it ?

    10. Ruby says:

      Scot Finlayson says:
      12 June, 2021 at 8:20 am
      Top hat and cane ?

      Reply

      Intriguing!

      Could it be something to do with dancin’?

      “Yes Sir, I Can Boogie”

    11. stuart mctavish says:

      @Breeks

      Is that not the point though, they kneel for the national anthem and just after that bit about rising to be a nation again they stand to run rings around the English who’ll hopefully still be in some confusion as to why they just sang God save the Queen whilst kneeling before the American flag.

    12. A C Bruce says:

      Dundependin and Dunawaywi’bull?

      Guess who came to dinner. Head, hat and cane as trophies.

    13. Ruby says:

      Wearing a suffragette ribbon would get the Scottish team a lot of international press coverage & lots of new fans.

      If they had the balls to do that “I would boogie, boogie woogie all night long”

    14. Why take the knee? Why kneel before anybody? There is a subservient feel to that (as usual) American-imported gesture. It has become a badge of sniffy, holier-than-thou moral puritanism and, in the greater scheme of things, achieves absolutely nothing whatsoever to affect racism or racists..except to annoy them and make them double down on their hatred.

      Can you even imagine one single racist going “Oh, I hated anybody who isn’t white, but now that these football players have taken a knee, I feel changed and penitent”? Nobody likes to be dictated to. No wonder Sturgeon was crowing over it so much. She should just move to America where her politics belong. And this has nothing to do with colour. Black people are fine by me. Mixing (American) politics and football – a ludicrous concept at best – is not.

    15. dramfineday says:

      Love it Chris, fantastic detail.

    16. Gary45% says:

      Brilliant “Toon” Chris “political genius”, the dinghy is a nice touch.
      Hopefully Scotland can rise above the media expectations, and I’ll nail my colours to the mast here, hopefully England get totally pumped, not for their players, but if possible to shut their media up, although how many games do you think the line “he wants to play in the premiership, he/ his granny, his goldfish used to play for” name any English team in any English league, the usual crap that spoils any sporting occasion for anyone not English.
      Ruby@9.43
      I’m wondering if there is anyone making pro woman/suffragette merch, wristbands ribbons etc?

    17. Ruby says:

      Gary45% says:

      I’m wondering if there is anyone making pro woman/suffragette merch, wristbands ribbons etc?

      Reply

      That might be something for an enterprising person to think about.

      It would be easy enough to make your own wristband.

      Tie a bit of white, green & purple string around your wrist.

      White & green string readily available. Not sure about the purple but you could stick a bit of the white string in a jar of beetroot & hey presto you have purple string.

      If you wanted to be fancy you could pleat your string.
      See Friendship bracelets tutorials on You Tube.

    18. Gary45% says:

      Cheers Ruby.
      I meant to add in the above post. On the opening Euro game yesterday, did the unbiased English commentators, say the usual line, “so who will be playing England in the final”.

    19. Republicofscotland says:

      Nice one Chris.

      I see the Goebbelesque British propaganda show GB news goes live tomorrow, Andrew Neil is the anchor (with a W) he’s the Scot whose being selling out Scotland for decades.

      Another presenter on the Union Jack decal laden show is pretendy historian, and Scot Neil Oliver, Oliver called Scottish independence a cancer. Oliver has of late declared that lockdown was the biggest mistake in world history, I’m sure there’s millions of folk who’ve lost family members will disagree with that.

    20. Republicofscotland says:

      Meanwhile the queens honours list has popped up, Linda Bauld who advises the Scottish government on Covid will get an OBE, I wonder if she’ll hide her gong from Scots just like Sir Jason Leitch does.

      Another recipient of a royal obedience gong is Breexiter Andrea Leadsom, (even the stupid get lucky sometimes). Leadsom’s claim to fame came when she said that to offset the loss of the 500+ EU market, we could sell British biscuits abroad.

    21. Linda McFarlane says:

      Love it Chris.

      Is that suffragette colours I see in Hamish’s bunnet?

    22. Republicofscotland says:

      The outgoing Lord advocate has vowed to pursue hate crimes vigorously until his departure, pity then that women who are being threatened daily on social media by a certain section of Scottish society seem to be excluded from this.

    23. Alec Lomax says:

      Whorattledyourcage – and some of your friends are black.

    24. Wee Chid says:

      WhoRattledYourCage says:
      12 June, 2021 at 9:59 am

      Agreed – an empty gesture of virtue signaling – like clapping for the NHS. What gets me is the enforcement of this – “do it or suffer the consequences” – It’s as bad as the trans cancel culture.

    25. Milady says:

      I don’t know what I like the most, the fact Hamish has a toy Hamish or the scarily accurate packet of chicken Dreamies! Love it.

    26. Ruby says:

      How to make tee shirt yarn.

      https://tinyurl.com/f79z7j7u

      This is really useful stuff.

      I use it on my masks. Its stretchy & nice soft. Comfortable on the ears unlike elastic.

      See following tutorials on how to make:

      1.’Suffragette bracelet’ from recycled tee shirts
      2. How to make a slip knot
      3. Other uses for tee shirt yarn.

    27. ‘Wee Chid says:
      12 June, 2021 at 11:08 am
      WhoRattledYourCage says:
      12 June, 2021 at 9:59 am

      Agreed – an empty gesture of virtue signaling – like clapping for the NHS. What gets me is the enforcement of this – “do it or suffer the consequences” – It’s as bad as the trans cancel culture.’

      There is no such fucking thing as yankeedoodledandy ‘cancel culture.’ How many people do you know who have been (sneering and chuckling) ‘cancelled’? I mean, not by the SNP, that is. What does ‘cancel culture’ even MEAN? Marion Millar will be the test case, and she will see she has sane Scottish folk behind her, guaranteed. Enough of this hateful censorious liberal fascist yank dogshit. ENOUGH.

    28. Dan says:

      Hamish waits eagerly… but word on the street is she her might pull the Scottish team from the tournament due to the minority interests of a vegan pressure group.
      Vegan Power in Scotland has been boosted recently what with the new Hate Crime Act.
      Vegan Power have teamed up with Woke Whingers Incorporated and together they assert that the spectacle and symbolism of European adult men kicking a leather ball on a grass field is a horrific reminder and the hateful visual expression of the violence and oppression that dominant humans on this continent have historically meated meted out on fluffy animals.

    29. Ruby says:

      https://tinyurl.com/2abhr7dx

      How to make your ‘suffragette friendship bracelet’ from old tee shirts.

      Make white, purple & green tee shirt yarn.
      (look in charity shop’s 50p bin)

      Bracelet can be thin or chunky.

      These three tee shirts will make bloody loads of bracelets.

      Make one for all your friends.

      NB It doesn’t have to be a tee shirt it could be your old nightie, long johns or leggings as long as they are made from ‘tee shirt material’

      Avoid tee shirts with printing on the front.

    30. Stoker says:

      WhoRattledYourCage says on 12 June, 2021 at 9:59 am
      “Why take the knee? Why kneel before anybody? There is a subservient feel to that (as usual) American-imported gesture”

      Correct! Another gimmick! Masking Scotland’s real problem, anti-Catholic sectarianism. Racism might exist in Scotland but not to the point anti-Catholic bigotry is. Mind you, more often than not those spouting the anti-Catholic tripe are very much the same folk spouting racism. And not just anti-Irish racism but towards anyone who isn’t white. But hey, it’s “TRADISHUN”.

      BTW, another good one Chris, thanks!

    31. Charles Hodgson says:

      https://www.adulthumanfemale.store/stickers-pdfs?page=2

      Nice Sturgeon sticker if you scroll down.

    32. Republicofscotland says:

      “I think Julian Assange should have returned to Sweden to face his accusers. And I wish Craig had done a journalism law course. It’s a prerequisite for any rookie journalist leaning their craft.”

      Above is a comment from the Westminster’s SNP MP useful idiot John Nicolson.

      https://twitter.com/MrJohnNicolson/status/1403050268187672578

      Both journalists (Murray and Assange) have suffered terrible persecution and injustice for reporting the truth, one of them (Assange) is now being held in England’s top security prison without charge Belmarsh, whilst the other (Murray) faces prison for a crime that the state said he did (In my opinion and many many others also believe he didn’t commit any crime) whilst unionist hacks who not only jigsaw identified so called complainers, but actually named them are not held accountable and are still at liberty.

    33. Socrates MacSporran says:

      I am old enough to remember Tommie Smith and John Carlos making their protest in Mexico City, at the 1968 Olympics.

      They didn’t kneel, and it had far more immediate impact.

      Colin Kaepernick kneeling, when everyone else stood, also had far-more impact.

      But now, I feel the impact of those genuine acts has been diluted by gesture politics – and nothing has really changed.

      If you genuinely want to do something and maybe force change – think of something new to try – kneeling no longer has the impact.

    34. Saffron Robe says:

      As a Scot I have always felt a close affinity to the African-American struggle for equal rights and I will always support that struggle in whatever way I can.

      However, to me, there is something wrong with “taking the knee”. The gesture imitates the posture of the racist policeman who murdered George Floyd by kneeling on his throat. I understand there is a chronological time difference but given what transpired I don’t understand how imitating an overtly racist act can be taken as a protest against racism.

      Along with many others I extend my best wishes to the Scottish football team. They are representing their country and I hope they do us all proud. If only they can show the fighting spirit so lacking in our politicians!

    35. Ruby says:

      Warning: May offend those of a sensitive disposition

      As promised this is how to tie a slip knot.
      I expect you all know already but just incase here’s a tutorial

      https://tinyurl.com/3m6evtj7

      NB Many slip knot tutorials on You Tube.

      https://tinyurl.com/rr8y3pud
      I gave up on this one when he went off to talk to the cows.

      I did promise a tutorial on the many uses for tee shirt cord but couldn’t find anything I thought you might find interesting.

      I didn’t think you would want to crochet a toilet roll holder. Sorry if I got that wrong.

      I’m just going to have to make up a list of things you might find useful.

      1. Lost a lot of weight with all the exercise and dieting you’ve been doing during lockdown resulting in your trousers falling down?

      Use that xxxl tee shirt that no longer fits and make a tee shirt cord belt with a couple of slip knots at each end and hey presto you have a belt that will fit even if you lose another couple of stone.

      Cut the tee shirt cord 2″- 3″ thick or alternatively pleat 3 1″ strips into a ‘friendship belt’. Basically it’s just a big friendship bracelet. You could even make a ‘suffragette friendship belt’.

      More tips on what to do with your tee shirt chord later.

    36. Republicofscotland says:

      So Boris Johnson is pushing ahead with increasing Perfidious Albion’s nuclear weapons cache to 260. The UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres said of the increase, “The UK decision was contrary to its obligations under Article VI of the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT)” — in other words, it is illegal under international law.

      CND also found that Perfidious Albion is in breach of the NPT.

      Of course these vile weapons of mass destruction that Scots are forced to pay their share of even though they don’t want them, will not be housed in some far off distant land, nor will they be housed in England, no they’ll be kept in Scotland, roughly just thirty miles from our largest city, and they’ll be shuttled there on the backs of HGVs that travel through our cities at any time of day.

      Who do I blame for this disgraceful situation, well not Westminster we know what to expect from that den of iniquity, no I blame Sturgeon and her government/party for keeping us tied to this union for her and her party’s benefit.

    37. Grouse Beater says:

      Home Rule, better known as ‘Devo’Max’ is the biggest squirrel let loose, so far. Watch our feckless ‘leaders’ chase it.

      “Devo-Max is back’: https://wp.me/p4fd9j-pZC

    38. James Che. says:

      Governments allowing the use of harsh bigotry for tools of difference to break down society actually is psychological warfare on the public, wether it is ,
      black/ white,
      trans/women,
      football with / associated religion.
      Men/ women,
      police/ public,
      taking the knee/ or not doing so,
      hate speech/ freedom of speech,
      English/ Scots.
      climate /change/ everyday living,
      Big banks, corporations/ austerity.
      Covid lockdowns/ personal freedom etc etc .
      The voices for or against any of the above and many other issues that are still to come forward is intended to invoke fear within people, to be scared in case they make a wrong move in a perceived new ideological new society where the rule of law that you one were accustomed too has been deliberately abandoned to leave confusion, divide , fear of repercussions,
      Although the sovereignty of the individual is recognised on paper, and in the human rights laws, our governments, courts and media around the world appear to be experimenting with methods of mass control of the populations in all countries,
      Wether the subduecation of people, methods parallels North Korea, China, old Soviet Union, or Germany’s world war 2 ideologies it is being played out without any apparent obvious war, between leaders of countries,
      There seems to be a great pretence nowadays of world leaders on the edge of war. But the war for the people and their rights as citizens and has been playing out for ages,
      the equivalent equality of citizens free speech and freedom in their own countries is being eroded faster by our own goverment ideological laws against our own people.
      For a very easy example of what can we see, is that in Scotland football/religion is used along side the covid rules and regulations to instigate rivalry with each other from our own devolved government aimed at civilians to antagonise disrupt the population.
      Psychological warfare is not as obvious as physical warfare,
      The only weapon needed is embedded predjudices and beliefs of the people for a government to own and steal the people’s sovereignty,
      Their are some believes such as our right as humans to retain our sovereignty against our governments, whom within the rule of law are supposed to work for us,
      However in other instances we must recognise such as football, hate speech, climate change, and covid regulations etc that the rulers of our countries set us up to fail, and fall out with each other, while they themselves stay out of and above the new rules.
      Again we can see a second example of different rules and equality with covid, and climate change rules, while we are in lockdowns with restrictions on movement and meeting family and friends,The upper echelons use big jets, limousines and helicopters to get to G7 meetings on climate change that could have taken place via video, Skype etc,
      The best way to win a war is to starve a people into submission ( food banks) and loss of employment, ?
      The second best way is to weaken the opposition from the inside by causing a fraction within the ranks, the leaders, ie, the SNP and Alex Salmond,.
      Whatever method is used by world leaders it is always the civilians in a country like Scotland that loose.
      We need to bury minor differences and beliefs here to survive our very own government and other governances from a more global perspective, at some point in the near future the populations will have to oust out bad leaders with a coup of their own, or become entrenched slaves living in permanent fear.

    39. Lochside says:

      Republicofscotland says:` re. John Nicholson’s crass and callous comment on Assange and Craig Murray. This bloated fraud was touted around different SNP branches several years back and rejected by most constituencies until East Dunbartonshire took him on and he subsequently lost the seat.

      His hypocritical comments illustrate the self serving, shallow and unscrupulous shams that Sturgeon surrounds she/its/herself with.
      And this hollow cardboard cutout has the barefaced cheek to trumpet free speech and journalistic standards in his tweet!

      O/T This is the 81st anniversary of the ST. Vallery rearguard action fought by the 51st Highland during then Dunkirk evacuation. 10,000 mainly Scots troops fought on for days after the 200,000 mainly English and 140,000 French troops were saved.

      The Highland Division was sacrificed to placate the French. Losing 10,000 English troops a week after the evacuation of the bulk of the BEF would never have been acceptable to the Greater English public…no matter the pish about the ‘nobility’ of an ignoble retreat. Remember, its Churchill we are talking about here.

      In the first War a 1/5 of Scotland’s enlisted men were killed…147,000 out of 700,000,most of them volunteers (twice the average of England). At the battle of Loos in 1915, a quarter of all the regiments (45 x ) were Scots and at least a quarter of all battle casualties of the British forces were Scots. It has been estimated that Scotland’s losses per ratio were only exceeded by the Serbs.

      Our proud martial history has been steadily been written out by English historians and their lackeys. From the absurd narrative that has been fabricated that Hadrian’s wall was purely a customs boundary and that Caledonia was not ‘worth having’ to the eclipsing of Scotland’s fighting men winning crucial battle and wars in the creation of the ‘British’ Empire….the conquest of Canada by the highlanders at the Heights of Abraham; the conquest of India e.g relief of Lucknow; the Gordons and Scots Greys at Waterloo; the 92nd Highlanders, the ‘thin red line’ at Balaclava…none of these (apart from some shots in the Russian version of ‘Waterloo’) have been made into a film… never mind Bannockburn! I wonder why?

      I am proud of that spirit. I am not proud that those men nearly all died, with the exception of the war against the Nazis ( and Bannockburn), for a rotten imperial cause that was not their own. But their sacrifice deserves to be remembered for the courage it represents and the disgrace that exists of deliberately by obscuring and deletion of their glorious and misplaced sacrifice. Despite being misguided, they are not the ones to blame.

      The British media, and film industry and Hollywood have never done our country’s service people justice…caricatured as ‘jocks’..dafties with pipes and even dafter accents…the drip drip effect is there for all to see: the Scottish cringe. Andrew Bowie, tory msp wants to deny our history further in schools. As if that was even possible. I look forward to the day when he and his ilk are the subject of ancient history in our political system and society.

    40. twathater says:

      And at 10.50am we have Alec Lomax the well known Sturgeon sycophant and PayPal Paul afficionado first to cross the line with the racist accusation against WRYC because he disagrees with the ineffectual ‘taking the knee” well done Alec nicla will be ever so proud , but don’t you ever mention independence Alec or nicla will block you

      C’mon Scotland players is there ANYONE brave enough to wear suffragette ribbons to support our womenfolk and mightily piss off Sturgeon and her cabal

    41. Dan says:

      One for the engineers…

      Only in Scotland could a house built on water burn down…

      https://twitter.com/BBCScotlandNews/status/1403632420717539328

    42. Republicofscotland says:

      While Scots MPs, such as Stewart McDonald, Alyn Smith, and of course who could forget John Nicolson doing Westminster’s dirty work for them by constantly putting Russia down on the international stage, and domestically calling for the rooting out of Russian “Dirty” money, all isn’t quite what it seems.

      For Russian oligarch money can’t quite compete with Perfidious Albion’s investments from Middle East despotic regimes such as Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates, the known estimate, is over £140 billion pounds, the unknown amount is likely to be far greater.

      These despotic regimes, have no free press or opposition political parties, and dissidents are either executed (some in public) or they are disappeared by the states security services.

      Some of these despotic regimes in which Perfidious Albion is quite willing to take billions from in investments, are active in the war against the people of Yemen, the UAE even runs a network of torture chambers in Yemen, Qatar sponsors terror groups in Libya and Syria aimed at its citizens, in order to, in Syria’s case bring down Assad, in Libya’s case to keep it a failed state.

      Perfidious Albion, not only sells billions of pounds of armourments to these tyrannical regimes, it also protects them from criticism. Perfidious Albion even used its position within the UN, to support Saudi Arabia’s attempt (successful) to have a seat on The Human Rights Council.

    43. James Che. says:

      Lochside.
      We maybe proud of our ability to defend and protect, but I am glad we are not known for instigated abominable wars that kills ordinary people and children.
      We have been used in Scotland and Ireland by Great Britain’s warmongering elite as much as any other country.
      I like the peaceful idea of having a sea travelling hospital that saves people around Scotland and abroad as humanitarian aid, rather than instigating crises after crises.

    44. Republicofscotland says:

      Lochside @3.17pm.

      Thanks for reminding me about that tragic event, as British General (Wolfe) said at the Battle of Quebec in 1759, “It was ‘no great mischief if they fall” referring to Scottish Highlander soldiers.

      Of course General Haig, cost the lives of thousands of Scots at the Battle of the Somme in 1916, it was said that Haig was willing to sacrifice as many troops as it takes.

      Scots have been dying in English wars for centuries, WWI was in essence a war of vanity between Queen Victoria’s relations.

    45. Captain Yossarian says:

      @Dan – I’m getting-on very well now. Several months ago someone on these pages, I can’t remember who it was, told me to forget dealing with Holyrood as you’d get more sense out of a nursery school. Tannadice Boy has been enormously helpful too. Anyway, I think in 2-weeks it may all be over. I’m being assisted by the same law firm that’s working for Marian Miller; I’m not taking any legal action but I just don’t want to be shafted again by these Holyrood folk and their lawyers.

      If you’re still in the vicinity of North Africa, I hope you are enjoying yourself. It’s a fabulous place.

    46. Breeks says:

      https://archive.is/XqyOp

      ” “I’ve talked to some of our friends here today, who do seem to misunderstand that the UK is a single country, a single territory. I just need to get that into their heads.”

      Do yez aye?

      I’ve detected a wee fly in your ointment there, Boris. 😉

    47. Tannadice Boy says:

      @Captain Yossarian 4:49pm
      I am glad to hear you are doing well. And respect your desire to prevent a potential tragedy. Don’t forget the HSE route. They have three main options. One, there is nothing wrong. Two, they will issue an improvement notice essentially to allow further research of the potential problem and put the onus on the developer to prove their case. Three, they will issue a prohibition notice and prevent access to the school. I have dealings with the HSE in the past. Absolutely play your case with a straight bat. It can be daunting but I found them reasonable. Engineering mistakes happen their job is to avoid the consequences.

    48. Hugh Jarse says:

      Breeks, you’ll be relieved to hear he’s approved us cheering on our boy’s.
      Still one nation though.
      🙁

    49. James Che. says:

      Has any one noticed the great wave of advertising this past months for not only stacation holidays in Scotland while covid and travelling is still a supposed issue, but the massive onslaught of Scottish housing market sales being advertised in mainly newspapers like the Telegraph, The Times, etc.

    50. Gary45% says:

      Lets hope that’s the last of taking up space on a Scottish Indy site airing a personal grievance in public.

    51. Captain Yossarian says:

      @Tannadice Boy – My submission to the Engineering Institution was very straightforward. They formatted it all for me and so I think they know that there is a pressure to get this resolved now. You can read it on this chap’s website. Scroll to the very bottom and then work your way to the top. I’ve just uploaded it and so it may take a day or so to appear, but there is a lot of information uploaded already.

      https://glasgowunihumanrights.blogspot.com/2010/12/professor-robert-rennie-llb-phd-frsa.html

      Thank-you very much for your help; as you no doubt worked-out for yourself, I was becoming increasingly frustrated. This route is working and so I’ll give it 10-days or so before doing anything else. I think that once we get an engineering judgement then that should be it all over.

    52. Tannadice Boy says:

      @Captain Yossarian 6:27pm
      Well done it was never easy to stick to the basic principle of integrity in the Engineering field but my peer group gave me a lot of support in similar circumstances. I am buoyant about Engineering going forward despite the geo political environment we face in Scotland. Good luck in Africa.

    53. Gary45% says:

      Obviously not!!

    54. Captain Yossarian says:

      @Tannadice Boy – yes, agreed; I asked the American Society of Civil Engineers about this and they answered it instantly and our Engineering Institution is doing the same.

      Have a look at George’s site in a day or so and you will see the full submission. As I understand it, the Scottish Government have a week to respond, then it goes to a Professional Conduct Panel.

    55. Saffron Robe says:

      Boris Johnson makes the continuous and obvious mistake of conflating England with the United Kingdom. And weapons of mass destruction are an abomination. Anyone who supports them, any leader who condones them, and any state which sanctions them is an abomination. They are the ultimate symbol of human insecurity and weakness. And with the UK drowning in debt it is anyone’s guess as to how they can afford them.

    56. Tannadice Boy says:

      @Captain Yossarian 7:13pm
      I look forward to the conclusion. It’s so interesting to me. In answer to your post from someway back. I had heard and understood about artesian layers. I went to a state school where you couldn’t do 3 sciences. So I did Higher Chemistry and Physics. And Higher Geography as a substitute, learnt about artesian layers then. Pre Engineering education. Back in the very early seventies. All education is worth something.

    57. Effigy says:

      The English media are completely selfish bastards!
      5 times the have announce how English referee was so quick to call on the medics
      as a Danish player fought for life?
      His team mates signalled for the medics and fuck what the ref thought about anything.
      Next it’s about the Danish goalkeeper plays in Leicester?
      What on earth does that add to a player fighting for his life on the park.

      One English commentator has the stupidity to say that he worried if this event
      would affect the English striker Harry Kane as he was formerly a team mate of the Danish player?

      Incredulous! The world is praying for the player to live and this bastards is
      worried about Harry’s feelings.

      Only the English could do this and not even know what they are doing.

    58. Gary45% says:

      Effigy@7.29
      This is them getting the excuses ready for when they get pumped.
      Hope the goalie is OK, I don’t watch live telly.

    59. Effigy says:

      It was Christian Ericsson the former Spurs player
      who appeared to have a heart attack.
      News is he is recovering!

    60. Republicofscotland says:

      Staying on the Russian obsession (In a bad way) by Perfidious Albion and its hatred of its president Vladimir Putin, it may come as a surprise to some but Perfidious Albion under the tenure of Tony Blair helped Putin get elected in 2000.

      Blair flew out to St Petersburg to meet with him and endorse him as the next Russian president, MI6 even helped arrange for both men to go out to the Opera. Perfidious Albion had several objectives to endorsing Putin, even though Russia was in the middle of brutally suppressing the Chechen people.

      One was to try and open Russia up more to the West, the other was to secure BP oil interests in the country via a company called Sidanco which was in financial trouble. Sidanco was saved and BP oil increased its shares in the company.

      BP oil is closely linked to MI6, as is the FCO. Former head of MI6, Sir John Sawers, joined the company’s board the year after he left the intelligence agency and was foreign policy adviser to Blair at the time of the Putin meeting.

    61. Alf Baird says:

      Colonialism is racism, prejudice and the root of fascism (Cesaire) all of which Scots have suffered for over 300 years – but I don’t see anybody taking the knee for us.

    62. Pixywine says:

      So the Dear Leader King Bozo of Dogging land has delayed ” Freedom day” until 19 July. I wonder if the little Reichs pfennigs will ever drop on the public.

    63. Republicofscotland says:

      A brilliant article on Iain Lawsons blog of SNP machinations in the Clydebank branch.

      https://yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com/2021/06/12/blatant-rule-breaking-ignored-deaf-ear-strategy-engaged/

    64. Muscleguy says:

      I know it’s not a big thing up here but NZ are about to completely stuff England in test cricket. Plucky Islands of 5million souls are the best test team in the world.

      I so want that for this other country of 5 million souls. Imagine what we could do as an independent nation.

    65. J.o.e says:

      @RepublicofScotland

      Yes. Putin was their puppet until he wasn’t. Then he was Dr Evil.

      Its been a very entertaining 20 years watching the Russians steadily make the Western oligarchy look more and more ridiculous from denying them unfettered access to Russian resources to the rebalancing of power. High point was watching the Russians destroy the tools of Israel otherwise known as ISIS and back the Syrians economically and militarily.

      There’s a new geopolitical problem arising though because China has committed an act of war against the USA and allies by…ummm…releasing a virus…ummm…in China. Apparently.

    66. Robert Hughes says:

      Yip J.o.e, and , as RoS has pointed out . we see the dumplings in NSNP right in there , uncritically acquiescing to the Russia/China aka The Bad Guys narrative

      What are the chances of these dullards delivering Independence when they’re incapable of a solitary independent thought ?

      Not that the power structures in those two countries are any less corrupt than our own , or the West generally .

      Globally it’s pretty much the same story , different language ie an elite dictating – one way or another , financially or through strict adherence to a particular ideology – or both , how people should behave , the degree of freedom they’re permitted .

      The Scandinavians seem to have done better than most at achieving a decent standard of living for their citizens , a generous , ungrudging welfare system and tolerance of religious/personal freedoms . Though even these things are being put under strain by the opening of borders to people from vastly different cultures .

    67. Robert Hughes says:

      FWIW . Not against Immigration per se , just that it doesn’t come cost free

    68. J.o.e says:

      @Robert Hughes

      You mentioned the word elite so for shits and giggles and pure indulgence in conspiracy im going to point some things out that are amusing.

      If you take the word elite and split it as el-ite it then resembles other words with ‘ite’ such as luddite or hittite. The ‘ite’ denoting them as a people or group.

      But what is the ‘el’ part?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_(deity)

      According to wikipedia ‘El’ is a generic term for god. Some quotes:

      ‘Specific deities known as ?El or ?Il include the supreme god of the ancient Canaanite religion[3] and the supreme god of East Semitic speakers in Mesopotamia’s Early Dynastic Period’

      ‘”El” (Father of Heaven / Saturn) and his major son: “Hadad” (Father of Earth / Jupiter), are symbolized both by the bull, and both wear bull horns on their headdresses’

      From Britannica:

      ‘El is commonly used as a synonym for Yahweh and less commonly as the general term for “deity.”

      From Hebrew4christians:

      ‘Appears in construct relation when describing the god of Israel’

      The reference to Saturn is interesting and comes from the Canaanites of the Levant where modern day Israel is.

      Saturn is the 6th planet in the solar system and satur(n)day is the 6th day of the week.

      A few years ago Nasa sent a probe to explore Saturns poles. Here is what was found (no lies here, look this up yourself):

      http://www.nasa.gov/jpl/cassini/saturn-north-pole-hexagon-20131204.html

      So the 6th planet has a hexagon, a 6 sided shape, over its north pole.

      So are the original Elites actually Saturnites from the Levant? With 6 apparently an important number.

      What religious and national symbols have something with 6 in them and a hexagon in the middle?

      What is Saturn worship associated with? What is the star of Remphan?

      Where can you find a big golden bull statue?

      Interesting stuff if you are bored.

    69. Alf Baird says:

      Robert Hughes @ 11:11 pm

      “FWIW . Not against Immigration per se , just that it doesn’t come cost free”

      You are right. All independent states have control of their borders for good reason, to protect their population and their national sovereignty. Scotland has not had control of its borders for over 300 yrs and hence has had no control over population change. Which is why britnats now suggest partition within Scotland due to population change and resulting voting preference. So yes, uncontrolled immigration comes at a cost – the cost of national sovereignty and independence.

    70. President Xiden says:

      I am ignoring ‘Government’ advice. Who is with me?

    71. J.o.e says:

      @President Xiden

      Yup

    72. Ian Brotherhood says:

      For folk who take a Gary45% view of what’s happening now…

      Please have a swatch at this.

      It’s presented for a German-speaking audience, so it’s not all watchable for must of us. But it’s over three hours long. (Quite a lot of passages in English if you want to pause to check.)

      The point is…does this look like a group of tinfoil-hat wearing malcontents?

      Are they all just having a laugh?

      https://twitter.com/heidegger79/status/1403835315329114112

    73. J.o.e says:

      @Ian Brotherhood

      Ive found that you are either the kind of person to consider information that challenges your worldview and sense of security or you aren’t.

      There’s an old movie about a nuclear war and one scene where a guy is trying to get out of his house with his mrs but she is trying to hoover and tidy up as normal after the emergency alert goes off.

      Gary is the woman with the vaccum cleaner.

    74. Willie says:

      I wonder if the Scotland fans watching the Scotland team taking to the pitch will all at home join and bend the knee in tribute to a sycophantic display of empty gesture politics.

      Me I’d much rather our team stood proud, stood tall. On one’s knees to me was never a good signal of anything – and in fact that’s what folk do when they get knighted by the Queen.

      On your knees as an expression of being down and neatly out also comes to mind. Sad to say, bending to political influence to join England in implementing this particular gesture is not a good sign.

      Start on your knees, finish on your knees.

    75. PacMan says:

      This taking the knee nonsense is not a political statement, it is a corporate one.

      It is tokenism for the relevant football associations and individual clubs to show that they are doing something about racism while in reality they aren’t doing anything at all.

      They could get the individual players to hold hands an sing I’d let to teach the world to sing and it would have the same effect on racism.

      To get a different perspective on this corporatism that uses social issues for it’s own commercial purposes, look at how the Brewdog company portrayed itself as a hipster, progressive company but acted like every other major company and treated it’s employees as dogsbody’s. No put intended.

    76. Captain Yossarian says:

      I was reminded of an incident involving Joe Beltrami earlier in the week:

      It was the morning after Celtic’s European Cup win in Lisbon and folk were gathered in Jock Stein’s hotel room waiting for the bus to take them to the airport.

      Journalists were there and Joe Beltrami, who was a pal of Jock Stein’s was waiting at the back of the room.

      There was a knock at the door and two policemen walked in with an official. They had the European Cup with them. Jock signed for it and they left it behind and walked back out.

      Jock wanted to get his hands on the European Cup again and be photographed with it. There were plenty of journalists to do that, but they couldn’t get into the European Cup. It was inside a wooden box with was tied-up tightly with string. Everyone tried but they couldn’t undo the knots.

      There was a shout from the back of the room: ‘Stand aside gentlemen’ and Joe Beltrami stepped forward, opened his overcoat and pulled-out a knife of the same type that was used at the time by Glasgow’s gangland knifemen. He cut through the string in a second and then stepped back again to the back of the room.

      It always struck me as incredible that Joe Beltrami would do that in front of a room-full of journalists and no-one would report it, but it goes to show there was some honour among them all at that time.

      Things in Scotland have changed beyond all recognition since those days and we couldn’t imagine a Scottish lawyer doing that now. However, were we all not a lot better off with Jock Stein and Beltrami than we are now?….with these low-grade folk we have at Holyrood telling us how to live our lives, whilst they do nothing at-all?

    77. PacMan says:

      James Che. says:12 June, 2021 at 6:24 pm

      Has any one noticed the great wave of advertising this past months for not only stacation holidays in Scotland while covid and travelling is still a supposed issue, but the massive onslaught of Scottish housing market sales being advertised in mainly newspapers like the Telegraph, The Times, etc.

      As Working from Home gets embedded into corporate culture, a lot of people will be able to work anywhere in the UK.

      As it seems like lock down culture is going to be embedded into our society, it makes sense for people to move out of the big cities and into less populated areas with fewer restrictions. Of course that means, large parts of Scotland will see an influx and house prices rising which will result in locals being pushed out of the market.

      There is a danger that changing demographics could damage the chance of independence more the the SNP and the likes of PayPaul Kavanagh could ever do.

    78. Breeks says:

      For the love of god…

      https://twitter.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1403123879191666695

      How the fk can enlightened governments do nothing to reign in these psychotic tyrants?

      Sooner or later, there will be a retribution for this. It is human nature, and there won’t be much mercy when it comes. It becomes more and more inevitable the more bestial you behave towards other people.

      I thank the Lord that I don’t have sons or daughters growing up in Israel and having their mortal souls consumed and distorted by being part of this corrosive, destructive, mental inferiority complex.

      Shame on you UK, you started this, and even greater shame on USA for bankrolling and arming these monsters. For Israel itself, maybe you shouldn’t have a country at all until you have grown up and know how to live in one without being such cruel and sadistic wankers.

      The only reason in the world I would ever buy Israeli produce is to take it home, let it rot, then throw it in your nation’s face.

      Does that sound anti Semitic? Well do tell geniuses, what the fuck else did you expect as a consequence of this inhumanity? A medal for your collective fking bravery grinding someone else’s children into dust?

    79. Papko says:

      As it seems like lock down culture is going to be embedded into our society, it makes sense for people to move out of the big cities and into less populated areas with fewer restrictions. Of course that means, large parts of Scotland will see an influx and house prices rising which will result in locals being pushed out of the market.

      Well said Pacman. I call that prescient.

      Even the most remote outbuilding in Caithness will assume a new value with a patch of land and good Internet connection.

    80. Dan says:

      Swizz holding multiple referenda during pandemic shocker.

      https://archive.is/GIj7v

      Meanwhile, in a parallel universe… Ultra Democratic Scottish First Minster of the sovereign Scottish people facilitates process for Scots to vote in multiple referenda to decide on Pesticide use, Self ID, Hate Crime legislation, Covid, CO2 reduction initiatives, oh, and a return to being a self governing nation.

      https://theferret.scot/pesticide-treatment-fish-farms-scottish-government/

    81. J.o.e says:

      @Breeks

      Think Epstein and Gislaine Maxwell. Theirs was a Mossad operation that blackmailed Western politicians. It probably wasnt the only one.

      Genocide in Palestine isnt the 1st time. The Bolshevik revolution and the set up of the Soviet Union along with thousands of Gulags, the secret police, the slaughter of many millions of Russian Christians, the attempted invasions of Finland and Poland and the apparent paranoia of the Germans all came from the same group of murderous, psychopathic, voracious supremacists who also happily threw their own more normal people under the bus as well.

      In more modern times look up ‘911 dancing Israelis’ and also the USS Liberty as a couple of examples.

    82. J.o.e says:

      Glad to see people on here talking of forced demographic change being used as a potential weapon which in many circles you are shut down as xenophobe if you bring up.

    83. Cenchos says:

      ‘it makes sense for people to move out of the big cities and into less populated areas with fewer restrictions. Of course that means, large parts of Scotland will see an influx and house prices rising which will result in locals being pushed out of the market.’

      Eh?

      Like that hasn’t already happened…

    84. PacMan says:

      Cenchos says: 13 June, 2021 at 9:24 am

      ‘it makes sense for people to move out of the big cities and into less populated areas with fewer restrictions. Of course that means, large parts of Scotland will see an influx and house prices rising which will result in locals being pushed out of the market.’

      Eh?

      Like that hasn’t already happened…

      Past occurrences have been ones who have retired or those who have been lucky by selling their ex council houses for obscene profits and able to start a new career in their chosen location.

      Due to working from home, anybody regardless of their income and move to any location they chose to. Nobody of working age now who moves to another location requires to gain local employment to support themselves.

      That means the number of people who can do this has dramatically increased from the few to the many.

    85. Don says:

      J.o.e 13 June, 2021 at 9:17 am

      “Think Epstein and Gislaine Maxwell. Theirs was a Mossad operation that blackmailed Western politicians. It probably wasnt the only one.”

      You think ? Any actual real evidence instead of the invented crap floating about inside your own head ?

      “In more modern times look up the USS Liberty as a couple of examples.”

      More utter bullshit , how many conspiracy theory websites do you subscribe to ? https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/39936

    86. ScotsRenewables says:

      Why can’t the SG run a ferry service?

    87. PacMan says:

      For those who are talking about conspiracy theories about the pandemic, have you considered that this could be some form of elaborate double-cross method to reinforce the need for restrictions?

      Think about it, these conspiracy theories are thrown about, people get caught up in it then media commentators debunk them and show people how stupid you are if you are to believe them.

      For me, the issue is with the political handling of the pandemic.

      It is beyond noticeable that scientific experts taken on advisory roles for politicians are fore front in the media campaign against the virus. It is in the name, they are advising the government, not dictating policy. Policy is the job of the politicians.

      Of course it is very convenient for these politicians. If everything goes all right, they take the credit. If it fails, they say they were acting on medical advice.

      Lets not kid ourselves, the pandemic isn’t over but it is the beginning of the end. We must however keep an eye on the politicians to ensure they didn’t milk it more than it should be or we will be endless lock downs based on ‘scientific evidence’.

      Ultimately though, public opinion and economic reality will swing against these politicians and they will have to reverse policy. The question is when?

    88. Don says:

      @PacMan 13 June, 2021 at 8:06 am

      “This taking the knee nonsense is not a political statement, it is a corporate one.”

      Nah its definitely a political statement.
      https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/taking-the-knee-and-how-blm-became-synonymous-with-communism/ar-AAKWX1P?ocid=msedgntp&fbclid=IwAR0TalIB1GhYipje66WZwnJysym4kiFwSjgGApzcEZX0gbHvPZqQTBHxD90

      “… look at how the Brewdog company portrayed itself as a hipster, progressive company but acted like every other major company and treated it’s employees as dogsbody’s. No put intended”
      But a good Pun all the same.

    89. PacMan says:

      Don says: 13 June, 2021 at 10:39 am

      @PacMan 13 June, 2021 at 8:06 am

      “This taking the knee nonsense is not a political statement, it is a corporate one.”

      Nah its definitely a political statement.
      https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/taking-the-knee-and-how-blm-became-synonymous-with-communism/ar-AAKWX1P?ocid=msedgntp&fbclid=IwAR0TalIB1GhYipje66WZwnJysym4kiFwSjgGApzcEZX0gbHvPZqQTBHxD90

      Regardless of its origins, taking the knee is now corporate virtue signalling in order to get the profits up and to abdicate responsibility.

      Complete and utter shallowness and superficiality.

    90. Robert Hughes says:

      J.o.e . Ian B . Alf B . Breeks ( among others )

      You guys restore my ( at times tenuous ) faith in the capacity of Scots to truly understand the forces arrayed against them , and human nature ( IMO not a static , fixed given , but subject to change , like everything else ) generally .

      I see the much-heralded ” Day of Liberation ” ie June 21 , is likely to be deferred – apparently there’s a group of * anti-vax * hold-outs resisting The Jag on Tristan de Cunha ( or somesuch location ) that must be brought into compliance before the New Abnormal can be fully instigated .

      And there’s oor Gordie Broon – a character in search of an author ( and relevance ) bewailing the * missed opportunity * by the G7 elbow-bumping pantomime actors , not a * missed opportunity * to address fundamental questions of global inequality and the lack of genuine Democracy /Accountability . No , the * missed opportunity * to vaccinate the entire planet .

      Now , there’s a man with a true grasp of essential priorities eh ?

    91. Republicofscotland says:

      As Westminster and Buckingham Palace lay out their plans to keep sending Prince William and his wife Kate to Scotland to butter up Scots to the value of the union, and by default the royals themselves to Scotland, its interesting to note what the future king of the UK is Prince Charles has been up to.

      Prince Charles since 2011 has had 95 meeting with despotic regimes in the Middle East, he has had a key role in promoting and securing over £14.5 pounds worth of arms to oppressive regimes in the region.

      The British media, and indeed royals press spokespersons mostly focus on Prince Charles visits to these regimes as in a cultural visit, but in reality he’s a salesman, cementing UK arms deals along with bolstering these oppressive despotic countries reputations abroad.

      The FCO also plays its part in helping to smooth the path to the UK’s multi-billion pounds armourments deals with Middle East tyrannies. During 2011, the year of the Arab Spring, Prince Charles met six of the Middle East’s eight monarchs, from Bahrain, Jordan, Kuwait, Morocco, Qatar and Saudi Arabia. He subsequently held numerous meetings with dynasties from Oman and the United Arab Emirates (UAE).

      Prince Charles routinely meets with military, intelligence and internal security figures abroad, which are paid for by the UK taxpayers.

      This royal family doesn’t seem to mind that its doing its bit to protect and do business with these oppressive regimes, do Scots really want to keep this royal family after Scottish independence? I certainly hope not.

    92. Daisy Walker says:

      With regards the MoS ‘exclusive’ re missing IR2 money, etc – what I find really interesting is why now…

      They’ve known since the Rev exposed it 18 months ago, so what is going on nationally for them to expose it now?

      Now that the SNP have been re-elected with Nicla useless still in charge?

      Any ideas? Could it be that Indy is still polling strongly – or just part of the overall strategy.

    93. Breeks says:

      https://archive.is/pnPeT

      Oh do fuck off, you irrelevant, grinding, embarrassment.

      … and same too, to the Hootsman for wasting the lives of so many innocent pixels just to print it.

      Can somebody not have a word at Buck House and get him on the Honours list so the sad old fart can just retire and enjoy his rambling dotage in peace, and collect £300 a day for just breathing, without whistling all that hot air through his vocal chords?

    94. J.o.e says:

      @Pacman

      How is the WHO, PHE and the statements made by Kary Mullis being at odds with how most of our governments are using PCR to generate the stats that justify lockdowns and vaccinations a conspiracy theory?

    95. Republicofscotland says:

      “There’s a new geopolitical problem arising though because China has committed an act of war against the USA and allies by…ummm…releasing a virus…ummm…in China. Apparently.”

      j.o.e

      Yes Joe that’s the officially narrative, the reality is that the US and its numero uno obedient puppet the UK wants to break China’s economy. The same goes for Russia’s economy even though the Russian economy isn’t that large, but the USA wans to stop Russia’s Nordstream II that will supply Russian gas to the EU.

      A recent example of an attempt by the US to cast doubt on the EU buying Russian gas, was the sponsored US demos in Belarus against its president Alexander Lukashenko.

      The US backed Roman Protasevich, described in the Western media as a dissident journalist wrongly arrested, is in fact an ex-member of the Neo Nazi far right Ukrainian Azov Battalion which opposes Russia, and by default the Russian aligned Belarus president Lukashenko.

    96. Breeks says:

      I wonder if the “Both Votes SNP” Brigade can take that tin bucket off their heads long enough to read this…

      https://archive.is/PcOQd

      “One of the findings is that of those people who did switch during the campaign and said yes I was voting to stop a party, in 90% of those cases it was the SNP they were voting to stop,” he said.

      So tactical voting by Unionists is hunky dory, but tactical voting by Pro-Independence supporters is cheating / gaming the system.

      OK, you can put that tin bucket back over your head again… All 952,896 of you.

    97. Ruby says:

      The only new piece of info in the MOS article is

      “We can reveal that the Weirs – who won £161 million in the Euromillions lottery – made a donation to a fund for a new independence referendum, but Mr Weir later complained to the party and demanded his money back, prior to his death in December 2019.”

      I wonder if it’s the loan they are referring to

      https://archive.is/D5tmK

    98. Ruby says:

      “We can reveal that the Weirs – who won £161 million in the Euromillions lottery – made a donation to a fund for a new independence referendum, but Mr Weir later complained to the party and demanded his money back, prior to his death in December 2019.”

      If this is true did the MSM cover it up by calling it a loan?

      Does anyone know of any press coverage at the time of Colin Weir demanding his donation back?

    99. Ruby says:

      https://archive.is/y5Dn9

      This missing funds story was covered in April Sean Clerkin complained to the police.

      Since then there have been other articles basically saying police trying to decide what to do.

      Perhaps “it would be good to be “pressurising” police over accusations of fraud.

    100. Ruby says:

      Hi Stu

      Hope you are having a wonderful Sunday out there in the sun photographing damselflies, swans & all the interesting events taking place in Bath.

      Be Happy!

    101. Dorothy Devine says:

      I had a horrid thought . The queen conferring on William and Kate the titles of prince and princess of Scotland.

      Might that cause a wee problem for Scots ? Might they sit up and listen?

    102. Dan says:

      @ Breeks

      Aye, those stats for voting should be a real eyeopener. The same way they should have been with the 2016 Holyrood election 5 years previously…

      There is no getting away from it. An awful lot of Indy supporters truly are as thick as fuck, with an extremely low level, if any, of strategic awareness and tactical thinking.
      And that dumbness isn’t just restricted to the wider electorate, even supposedly switched on pro-indy political commentators and some of those involved in running YES groups have failed to be receptive and take onboard and promote the glaringly obvious benefits that could have helped the cause of Scotland returning to a self governing status.

      Oh, and that footage of the dozer ploughing up the road and water supply to Palestinian villages is disgraceful.

      https://twitter.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1403123879191666695

      That will be critical infrastructure serving communities that would have taken an awful lot of time, money and engineering to put in place.

    103. Republicofscotland says:

      Dorothy Devine.

      The Queen can bestow whatever ludicrous title she wants on her royal offspring, Prince William is already known as the Earl of Strathearn in Scotland, and his wife is the Countess of Strathearn in Scotland. Prince William is know as the Baron of Carrickfergus in Northern Ireland.

      The royals used different titles whilst in different parts of the UK.

    104. Alf Baird says:

      ScotsRenewables @ 10:31 am

      “Why can’t the SG run a ferry service?”

      Postcolonial literature tells us that a colony and its people will always be under-developed. This is because of an imposed ethnic/cultural division of labour (Hechter) which results in a mediocre management elite running the country’s affairs (Memmi), plus emphasis on the colony to primarily serve the needs of the ‘core’ or ‘mother’ country.

      Independence is about allowing for the full and unhindered (i.e. without external interference) development of a people and nation.

    105. Daisy Walker says:

      With regards the timing of the MOS – Indyref2 Money scandal – being published now.

      I think it is about managing bad news… by putting it out now, at the start of the Euro’s….

      Very few will notice, and even fewer will care, so the story will never catch fire and gain momentum, specially if Scotland loses at the footie.

      Quite brilliant if you think about it.

      It’s not a scandal if the manner in which it drip feeds into the public conscienciousness provokes nothing but yawns and shrugs of the shoulders.

    106. oneliner says:

      Ruby@12.21

      Perhaps Police Scotland are stretched in their attempts to ascertain the identity of the Record Leaker. Maybe some ‘investigative’ ‘journalist’ could give them some help in narrowing down the ‘thirty or so’ people in the frame.

    107. J.o.e says:

      I just wanted to say that I would rather spend the rest of my life in prison than accept any kind of health passport, especially under these circumstances.

      If this is how we go I will be happy for the willfully ignorant weaklings who couldn’t stop to actually think for 2 minutes. You deserve it. All of it.

      Here’s a salute to the free and the thinking – we could be among the last of our breed.

    108. Robert Hughes says:

      Aye J.o.e

      The quandary for me if Health Passports are introduced is that my son lives in Berlin ( he tells me the Covid Apartheid is accelerating rapidly there ) and I’d have to decide whether I could sacrifice being able to visit him .

      Let’s hope , with more information re negative reactions emerging – albeit little still on MSM ( wonder why ) and more people in positions of authority speaking-out , the tide will turn definitively against the pseudo-Scientific , or , if not entirely * pseudo * certainly selective , Lockdown/Vaccine dogma

    109. Ruby says:

      oneliner says:
      13 June, 2021 at 2:08 pm
      Ruby@12.21

      Perhaps Police Scotland are stretched in their attempts to ascertain the identity of the Record Leaker. Maybe some ‘investigative’ ‘journalist’ could give them some help in narrowing down the ‘thirty or so’ people in the frame.

      Reply

      I had forgotten about that one!

      I don’t imagine the MSM will be enquiring about the progress of that ‘investigation’.

    110. James Che. says:

      Pac-Man.
      Well an easy solution to land grabs and population demographics, is to ensure everyone contributes to the Scottish coffers, by firmly introducing land tax in place of poll tax, ahem council tax,
      Especially as Councils are private entities with a business sections and sales of public land going under the radar, and do not pay council tax for properties themselves.
      This would sort out those that buy holiday homes that stay empty for three-quarters of a year through being absent, and reducing the housing for locals pricing up the housing market beyond what youngsters and locals can afford.
      It would also hit home to those whom buy Scottish property and never come near Scotland for tax evasion purposes.
      It would also put paid to big straths of land owned by a few, who have signs up everywhere that people locals may be taken to court for trespassing.
      Let them pay taxes on the land and see how long they hold on to and own the biggest portion of Scotland on to these estates. I bet they would be looking to sell in no time,
      There are large pieces of land where I live been bought up by Tesco years ago, nothing was done with this land, basically it was bought to prevent any surrounding competition from other big stores, and the land lay fallow, and cordoned of from what used to be public land, I would like to see this behaviour reduced by land tax,
      I have no doubt that other firms such as large conglomerates in the housing market do the same, to prevent smaller local builders,
      Large charities and conservation companies registered south of the border and abroad do the same,
      Equal land tax per equal measurement for all, would bring land back into the hands of the people of Scotland. Probably in smaller equalising parcels of property.

    111. susanXX says:

      I see NHS Scotland have come up with the idea of pride badges, encouraging the reporting of non sanctioned opinions. So glad I left nursing, this is Stasi like.

    112. Dorothy Devine says:

      RepublicofScotland, I know she can and that’s what worries me.

    113. Nally Anders says:

      Here’s the times article Susan.
      Got to hand it to Sturgeon. When she says she stands full square behind Stonewall, she really means she’ll bully all NHS workers to do the same.
      Personally speaking I reckon the ‘rainbow’ badges might be expensive to produce.
      It would be cheaper just to have a badge with a plain black background with white lettering ‘SS’.
      Stands for Stonewall Supporter of course.

      https://archive.is/xXw9q

    114. Robert Graham says:

      o/t
      I guess princess Nicola will be going bat shit crazy about Bawjaws referring to the United Kingdom as one country after his little tiff with the French bod , the comments on the radio were well it wouldnt be a normal summit if a British P M didn’t fall out with a French leader its perfectly normal ,

      Oh no it fkn isn’t it might be perfectly normal for a English P M to believe he is better than everyone on the planet who isn’t English but it doesn’t go for most people in Jockland

      I see the English team are on their way to steam roller every country in Europe again according the the English experts on the English TV Corporation as usual ,

      I believe a serious misjudgement has been made by the SFA in saying our team should emulate the English players in ” taking the Knee ” a pointless imported gesture from America a respectful silence should have been observed its the English fans who are the problem let them get on with it leave us out , I am not saying racism dosnt exist in Scotland but being seen to be subservient to English players is taking it too far especially with our history with the English establishment

    115. robertknight says:

      DD @12:58

      I think that His Royal Highness, The Prince Charles, Prince and Great Steward of Scotland, Duke of Rothesay, Duke of Edinburgh, Earl of Carrick, Lord of the Isles, Baron of Renfrew, Knight Companion of The Most Ancient and Most Noble Order of the Thistle, might have something to say to mummy if your thoughts on the subject were to become a serious proposition.

    116. Robert Graham says:

      I have just read a comment about this Stonewall Stazis antics it turns out they charge organisations and councils to be included on their approved list ( stonewall ) who in turn dictate the way these organisations run they way they present their literature and guidance to US the paying public , its fine for companies to be blackmailed by this terrorist organisation but I bloody hope my Council is not handing over my Council Tax to these half witts

    117. Effigy says:

      It seems that God’s own nation have been humped at their
      own game cricket on their own door step by a wee diddy nation
      with the same population as Scotland.

      How can a country so small cast off Westminster rule when they have no oil
      or Whisky or major tourism while being in such a far flung corner?

      Well Done New Zealand!
      Covid deaths in that country who control their own finances and borders. 26.
      Scotland governed by Westminster over 10,000 Covid Deaths and numbers mounting- again!

    118. Lochside says:

      ScotsRenewables @ 10:31 am

      “Why can’t the SG run a ferry service?”….I see Alf Baird gave you a response. And he should know. There was an instructive video uploaded on this site a year or so ago with Alf and Roy Pederson trying to install some sensible and constructive advice into the blockheads infesting the Holyrood Connectivity Committee.

      I wish I could upload it again. It shows two real experts on ferries, with years of both academic and practical knowledge being literally sneered at and patronised by SNP intellectual pygmies such as Maureen Watt and Richard Lyall, the latter giving a cringeworthy performance in trying to recount a youtube video on constructing ferries to the two experts. Who being gentlemen, did not just laugh in his face.

      It also had the arch clown Stewart Stevenson, (remember the guy who had to resign in 2010 after he described the snow storm chaos on the M8 government’s abject response as ‘first class’ and not apologising for the crass statement). He spent the session walking back and forward to get himself ‘refreshments’ and railing ,at Alf and Roy about EU tendering practices of which he displayed little or no knowledge. He also was wearing ridiculous garish galluses . All he needed were clown shoes. After viewing that shocking performance of total ineptitude by the SNP members, I decided that the SNP really were finished. Complacent, entitled, corrupt and worse, terminally stupid. To allow a degenerate like Mackay to be in overall control of this massive budget and riddled with basic errors and handed over to these zombies and the mess of agencies ( Calmac etc) defied any understanding.

    119. Famous15 says:

      Poor Andrew Neil introduces GB News and will always put the G In GB.

      Pity it was all out of sync.

      Give me Abla any day!

      Andrew is not quite as good as Pete Wishart in condescension but Neil Oliver ,wait I jcannot hear him,SOUND Engineer your sacked.

      Ollie dropped his mike ,how professional

      Kirsty who,sport? “I am A Scottish girl so etc etc”

      Sorry,off to Al Jazeera. Ews without bias.

    120. Famous15 says:

      GB News is just Pox news. Right wing?

      Funded by oligarchs!

    121. Lochside says:

      Robert Graham..agree with you about the NHS. The idea that you have to wear a badge acknowledging yours or someone else’ sexual preferences at your workplace would have, not so long ago been laughed at. And to be ‘monitored’ if you don’t oblige! What about those with religious and/or moral misgivings to certain behaviours? Toleration is acceptable is it not? Or is it going to be compulsory next? Not so now. Imagine the reverse?..’Straight Pride’?
      How absurd can it get? Don’t answer.

      Also, why should Scotland ‘bend the knee’ for the England game. If that isn’t a psychological faux pas, at the very least, I don’t know what is? Start the game on yer knees and end up on yer face by the end of it. George Floyd was a victim of a horrific, murderous police assault, but it happened in the US, As Breeks mentions earlier about the Israeli human rights abuses in Palestine, are they not a hundred times worse? Where does it stop? I’m afraid the LGBT NHS badge wearing falls into the same accursed woke virtue signalling witchcraft that is being ‘woven’ into our increasingly enfeebled culture.

    122. Ruby says:

      https://archive.is/MFCAX

      “Speaking to Sky News, Mr Raab said: “What we cannot have is the continuing disruption of trade and effectively try to change the status of Northern Ireland, contrary to the consent and wishes of the people,

      LOL

    123. Dan says:

      @ Lochside

      Vid link is on the following page. It’s 3.5hours though so will use a fair bit of data for those not on unlimited.
      The meeting covers several subjects so there’s potential to skip to part relating to ferries.

      https://www.scottishparliament.tv/meeting/rural-economy-and-connectivity-committee-january-29-2020

    124. Dorothy Devine says:

      Robert Knight , I had no idea that Big Ears had so many titles.

      You learn something every day!

    125. Saffron Robe says:

      I agree with others. Scotland should stand united against racism.

    126. Tannadice Boy says:

      The beautiful game, what a match tonight. Great goals and a great match. Good luck to Scotland tomorrow. As usual I hope for the best and fear the worst. A Scottish side that has no baggage. I am optimistic. Cmon Scotland!

    127. Ruby says:

      “Mr Jack said: “We can still move sausages from Kent into France and vice-versa – we can move those products across the short straight – so why can’t we move them across the Irish Sea?”

      I need help with all this stuff.

      Am I correct in thinking that sausages can be moved from Kent to anywhere in the world but they do require to go through lots of customs checks & in France
      “Some 230 veterinary staff will vet animal products, animal feedstuffs and plants in the ports of Calais, Dunkirk and Boulogne-sur-Mer.”

      Is the problem regarding moving sausages from the UK to N.Ireland that there are no checks and no vetinary staff to vet the products & no customs checks between the EU & N.Ireland.

    128. Ruby says:

      Saffron Robe says:
      13 June, 2021 at 9:41 pm
      I agree with others. Scotland should stand united against racism.

      Reply

      Perhaps the best solution would be if we all followed Buddhist teaching.

    129. Hugh Jarse says:

      The man who closed his eye to the crime that was Iraq, is accusing others of “unforgivable moral failure”!

      As far as I’m concerned, if he were to crawl away and quietly expire, it would be kinder all round.

      An arrogant man, with an overwhelming sense of importance that’s born from believing his own hype.
      Destined for ignominy.

    130. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Hugh Jarse (10.39) –

      Cheers for the reminder.

      Many of us will remember the feeling of disgust that man generated back in the day. It became almost visceral, and has never left us.

      This was the first place I saw parallels being drawn between Sturgeon and Blair. The whole ‘I had to make that decision’ schtick will always be her defence, her excuse for staying in office ‘during this national emergency’.

      But popular feeling is becoming clearer to anyone who can view social media with objectivity – she is now hated, perhaps not as much as Thatcher was, aye, but very nearly as much as Blair.

      So, if this isn’t time to go? when is?

    131. President Xiden says:

      Can anyone remind me how many people voted for Devi Sridhar to rule over us at the last election?

    132. Tannadice Boy says:

      @Ian Brotherhood 10:57pm
      I think hate is a strong word. She is incompetent. No real understanding of the world around her. No bairns, no grandchildren a very limited life experience. She has set the Indy cause back 20 years. She entered politics to stop Thatcher. I think she supercedes Thatcher. A wrong un as I said when I left the SNP.

    133. Don says:

      @Tannadice Boy 13 June, 2021 at 11:15 pm

      “I think hate is a strong word. She is incompetent. No real understanding of the world around her. No bairns, no grandchildren a very limited life experience. She has set the Indy cause back 20 years. She entered politics to stop Thatcher. I think she supercedes Thatcher. A wrong un as I said when I left the SNP.”

      The early warnings were there , apart from supporting a fraudster she was wholly responsible for the pure fantasy White Paper. She simply isn’t a thinker but just a liar.

      https://www.sundaypost.com/news/scottish-news/sturgeon-almost-resigned-over-defence-of-convicted-fraudster/

    134. Don says:

      President Xiden 13 June, 2021 at 11:12 pm

      “Can anyone remind me how many people voted for Devi Sridhar to rule over us at the last election?”

      She isn’t even qualified to be making the statements she does, she has been called out my many real Doctors , she just blocks them and carries on regardless. She is the SNP’s paid Lord Haw Haw
      https://www.10ial.com/devi-sridhar-is-not-a-medical-doctor-and-is-not-qualified-to-give-medical-advice/

    135. Don says:

      @Famous15 13 June, 2021 at 8:16 pm

      “GB News is just Pox news. Right wing?
      Funded by oligarchs!”

      Just like Russia Today then that Alex Salmond is happy
      to work for ?
      https://academic.oup.com/joc/article/70/5/623/5912109

    136. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      I’ve seen multiple comments today concerning the NHS Pride badge-wearing strategy but I don’t think I saw a link to what was actually going on.

      Found this on Facebook:-

      https://archive.is/cvC51

      Quotes from:-

      “A campaign encouraging Scottish NHS staff to sign a pledge and wear a badge supporting gay, lesbian and transgender people has been criticised after it emerged participation in the scheme will be monitored.
      The NHS Pride pledge, devised by Scotland’s health service and the SNP government, with input from the charity Stonewall, launches tomorrow as part of Pride month.”

      and

      “For Women Scotland (FWS), the feminist campaign group, was contacted by dozens of NHS staff when details of the scheme emerged last week. Some described the pledge as “offensive” while others complained that the campaign “belittles” hard-working NHS staff who strive to deliver patient-centred care irrespective of sexuality and gender. Several NHS trusts in England have adopted the Pride pledge in recent years.”

      and

      “One GP in Lanarkshire who contacted FWS wrote: “The idea of a group of smug Pride badge-wearers informing on their friends and colleagues sounds more like East Germany in the Stasi days or China during the Cultural Revolution than a liberal Scottish democracy in the 21st century.” The backlash comes amid criticism of Stonewall and its diversity champions scheme, to which hundreds of organisations, including the Scottish government, belong.

      In an article published in the Health Service Journal last week, Kate Grimes, former chief executive of NHS Kingston, wrote that some regard Stonewall as “an extremist trans lobby group” and said she believes working with Stonewall is no longer compatible with NHS values. Liz Truss, the equalities minister, has suggested government bodies should withdraw from its diversity scheme.”

      What’s going on with our nation?

    137. A Person says:

      Just wanted to pop on here to say that, yup, so far everybody on here who predicted that NS would do the square root of fuck all to advance an indyref2 was right. Has it even been mentioned once since the election? Didn’t think so.

      I would say “surely people won’t fall for it again” but maybe they will.

      You know there won’t be an indyref2 in the next five years, so do I, so do the dogs in the street.

    138. Alf Baird says:

      Lochside ” 8:03 pm
      ScotsRenewables @ 10:31 am

      On ferry policy, this might be informative:

      https://mullandionaferrycommittee.org/webinar-videos/

      Some folks are seeing the light. Ministers are expected to insist due to islands pressure that a dysfunctional CMAL charter the proven Pentalina/catamaran. And Mull community want a similar catamaran nearing completion now in Asia – on sale at a quarter the price of a CMAL white elephant. Scots designer/inventor too, who wants to build in Scotland but is still being blocked by our unionist run institutions.

    139. robertknight says:

      DD @ 9:34

      Indeed, and those are just his Scottish ones.

      We could bestow another upon him, in the spirit of generosity…

      Biggy MacBigears

      🙂

    140. Dave Somerville says:

      The wee Lezzy Leader conned you all.

      Even giving her one of your votes was a vote too many.

      She should have been kicked out at the last election, along with her useless troughers.

      And now we wait on the rest of the Electorate’s pennies dropping.

    141. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi Dave Somerville at 12:55 am.

      Are you alluding to some sort of “Tipping Point”?

    142. Breeks says:

      Famous15 says:
      13 June, 2021 at 8:13 pm
      Poor Andrew Neil introduces GB News and will always put the G In GB.

      Pity it was all out of sync…

      Out of sync, brazenly biased against Scottish Independence, but can roll over in horse shit, and stand up with a licence to broadcast in Scotland, and you can bet it widespread publicity, and will get funding from “somewhere”. Probably even get a bung from Sturgeon & Co.

      No Scottish Broadcaster however is allowed the oxygen to exist, because that would broadcast news, not the BritNat propaganda and indoctrination required by Westminster to keep us subdued.

      I wouldn’t watch GoB “news” if you tied me to a chair and taped my eyelids open.

      The good thing about it is, it’s clear that Andrew Neil and Goldilocks Oliver might be a curse on us, but they clearly don’t have much marketing popularity or any resonance outside the shrinking world of BritNat Unionism.

    143. J.o.e says:

      Just listening to a Naomi Wolf interview on https://corona-ausschuss.de/en/

      1 point I disagree with. She says that the rule of law is the last defense against the vast amount of corruption we are seeing and that we are lost if that has become too corrupted.

      She would do well to remember that there is a reason we ‘right wing nut jobs’ believe in the right of citizens to be armed.

      How many people are there who used to make fun of those dumb right wing gun toting hillbillies are now looking at the current situation and reassessing?

    144. Breastplate says:

      Joe,
      I’m not sure how having a gun to shoot your neighbour will solve anything because it’s not authority that is targeted, it’s people who happen to stray into the gun sights.

      I also think if we were allowed guns here, then we would be worse than Americans, we find it difficult to behave at a football match.

      I understand that there are different viewpoints but mine is that guns would only make matters worse.

    145. Breeks says:

      J.o.e says:
      14 June, 2021 at 7:56 am

      …we are lost if that has become too corrupted.

      Aye, but…

      I don’t disagree in any way, but while I know it’s fiction, Kidnapped by Robert Louis Stevenson, also to my mind reveals an awkward tension there has always been between the Law of Scotland, the Lord Advocate, and the Union.

      I think it’s over kind to say Scots Law and Scottish Lawyers routinely dance their way around colonial impositions unconstitutionally forced upon them. They don’t. Most wouldn’t lift their snout out of the trough long enough to stand up for Scotland, nevermind putting their career at risk by being “controversial”. That’s why we’re now saddled with a UK “Supreme” Court. It serves as one example of how “accommodating” Scotland’s independent Legal fraternity can be.

      But yet, in amongst that tide of cynical criticism, you also have the likes of Joanna Cherry QC, both smart enough to know her way around Scots Law and Constitution, and brave enough to give the UK Prime Minister and British Establishment no less, a proverbial bloody nose. – Twice.

      Don’t forget too, “somebody” is encouraging Wolffe to clear out his desk… But who knows whether that’s though disapproval from his Scottish peers, or merely Establishment Unionists recognising he is compromised and they need a fresh patsy. (I think we know who has her eye on that job..).

      It’s the same old affliction of a bipolar Scotland. We have the best of the best in Joanna Cherry, but outnumbered and at permanent disadvantage by the worst of the worst, like Sturgeon and Wolffe, arguably supported by the Establishment and in command of a vice like grip locking down the top jobs and ruling councils. The head of the snake is never at Scotland’s command, even it would seem, with an SNP “pro-independence” government.

      I truly believe Scots Law proper would flourish as strongly as any Scottish Institution post Independence, freed of all Unionist constraints, sell-outs and encroachment. It is after all, one of the very few pillars of our auld society which retains something of it’s pre-Union structures and integrity, and is almost unique in enjoying a degree of actual protection from the Union.

      I think there is a good and loyal Scottish baby in the bath water, somewhere, but it’s difficult to see sometimes in so much nasty and fowl smelling bath water…

      I would like to see Scotland’s sovereign Constitution being used as a defibrillator to see if there is yet life in Scotland’s Legal fraternity…

    146. J.o.e says:

      @Breastplate

      So allow the state a fully monopoly on the use of force.

      How does that look right about now?

      You do realise that the biggest murderers throughout history is the state against their own people. We are talking hundreds of millions in the last century alone.

      So if the people of a given nation are unable to retain the ability to exert force and big money has lobbied the courts, local government and national government along with institutions into their pockets enough that they are working against ordinary people what is the suggested course of action?

      What agency, that has the means to use force in defense of people in the face of monolithic criminal actions, can you turn to?

    147. Robert Hughes says:

      ” I wouldn’t watch GoB “news” if you tied me to a chair and taped my eyelids open.

      The good thing about it is, it’s clear that Andrew Neil and Goldilocks Oliver might be a curse on us, but they clearly don’t have much marketing popularity or any resonance outside the shrinking world of BritNat Unionism. ”

      Not one to gossip ( honest ) but ….

      A friend of mine told me years ago and I have no reason to doubt her : Nawliver was filming * somewhere * on the West Coast , where my friend lives , she met the wee hair-flicker in a pub and ended-up * gettin aff * with him : lets say she was unimpressed by the encounter and remarked on the smallness of his * manhood * .

      Now , we know ” size doesn’t matter ” ( said no woman ever ) and that it’s pretty crass to judge someone for what nature has bestowed on them ( or failed to ) but every time I have the misfortune to hear the wee nyaff spouting his Union arse-licking spiel I smile and think …..” hiy wee knob , yr overcompensating pal , fuck off n geez peace “

    148. Grouse Beater says:

      “Just like Russia Today Alex Salmond is happy to work for?” Don 8.16pm

      Salmond does *not* ‘work’ for RT. His show is recorded and sold to RT. RT has no hand in the choice of subject matter or editing. RT can refuse to buy it whenever they wish. A sale allows the producers free to sell it to any terrestial broadcaster.

      The question to ask is, why no UK channel offered him a platform of political anlaysis, BBC Scotland the obvious example. BBC UK has, after all, any number of Tory and Labour personalities fronting weekly series.

      A pointless exercise denouncing RT and Salmond while quietly upholding western-style censorship.

    149. Breastplate says:

      Joe,
      You are correct that the biggest criminals in history were well presented in fine clothes or uniforms, however we can vote for the type of representatives we want to change things.
      No guns needed just the ballot box.

      That we are unable as an electorate to vote decent people into office is our own fault because the fact of the matter is we are gullible and stupid.
      Gullible and stupid people shouldn’t be allowed a sharp stick let alone a gun.

      When all is said and done, we get exactly what we deserve.

    150. Stuart MacKay says:

      I’m going to get slapped around by Andy Ellis for saying this but “My God, Peter Bell is making some sense”

      https://peterabell.scot/2021/06/14/less-vision-more-focus/

      An idea that has been largely ignored probably because it does not really suit political parties who are not so keen in immediate extinction on independence.

      Laying out all the reasons why the Union should end would neatly solve the “Kenny MacAskill” problem which is just a rewording of the “all SNP, all the time” that we currently have as the only option after independence. The more diversity we have in wanting an end to the Union the more likely it will happen.

    151. Dan says:

      A short study into the mind of John Nicolson.

      Unspeakable. Those poor children.

      https://twitter.com/MrJohnNicolson/status/1404185819766722563

      2 days previously retweeted the following highlighting the positive benefits of Israeli airstrikes on the children of Palestine who are now able to practice Parkour on the rubble of their now demolished homes and communities.

      https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1403808070971629580

    152. Daisy Walker says:

      Once COP26 is out of the way – nicla will move on to pastures UN new…

      Angus the odius will take over and preside over a managed decline.

      The current ‘it’s too soon, mustn’t rock the boat’ types will be even more frightened due to a turn down in the polls, which will occur due to the MSM finally allowing one scandal after another to get an airing… but not before nicla is out of the firing line. She will get her rewards for services rendered.

      The loyal will cling to the ‘New’ SNP, in just the same way as the party members of Labour did – making it the joke of a party it now is.

      Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice and keep on doing it – cause I’m too bloody stupid and lazy to bother my arse and stand up for myself.

      Spoke to one of the Sheeple the other day – one who I had explained the ‘both votes SNP’ folly to before the HE election.

      He’s very dissapointed, kind of gets the point now, if there’s no IndyRef2 before 2023/next GE – he won’t vote again. He’s certain this time.

      Which achieves us absolutely fuck all.

      Meanwhile he’s happy cause the Euro’s are on and he can watch the footie. Baaaa.

    153. Robert Hughes says:

      Dan says:
      14 June, 2021 at 10:08 am
      ” Guest post by Lorna Campbell over on Barrhead Boy’s site.”

      Typically brilliant post by Lorna .

      If only there were more like her – fck , ANY like her – in NSNP .

    154. Lochside says:

      Stuart MacKay says:
      14 June, 2021 at 10:49 am
      I’m going to get slapped around by Andy Ellis for saying this but “My God, Peter Bell is making some sense”..

      Stephen Paton and Peter Bell making sense?…FFS, give yourself a shake! Dave McEwan Hill made the same fatuous argument on here for years: no detail, just Independence. Meanwhile, most people want concrete answers on currency, Bank of last resort, land ownership etc. etc. you know grown up stuff that the SNP are incapable of articulating or actually doing.

    155. Daisy Walker says:

      Is anyone else having trouble with this hot weather?

      I’m partial to Kit Kats, but they’ve all melted, even if I try and take them by quickly rubbing them in my gums… its no good.

      Don’t know what to do. Perhaps I should stop taking Kit Kats altogether, or find another vendor to supply my Kit Kats?

      Such a bother. Keep safe everyone. Be kind.

    156. Don says:

      @Daisy Walker 14 June, 2021 at 12:13 pm

      “I’m partial to Kit Kats, but they’ve all melted, even if I try and take them by quickly rubbing them in my gums… its no good.

      Don’t know what to do. Perhaps I should stop taking Kit Kats altogether, or find another vendor to supply my Kit Kats?”

      Mhiari Black is the person best experienced to give that advice

    157. Robert Hughes says:

      Daisy

      ” Hot weather ” !!

      FFS here in the Independent Socialist Republic of Drumnadrochit ( ok that title only exists in my mind , but wtf , a man can dream ) it’s ‘kin * baltic * , though maybe it’s because I’m only weeks back after years in a sunny clime n have developed ” Soft Southern Git ” Syndrome

      Maybe liquidising yr kit kat would help

    158. Don says:

      @Lochside 14 June, 2021 at 12:03 pm
      Stuart MacKay says:

      “Stephen Paton and Peter Bell making sense?…FFS, give yourself a shake! Dave McEwan Hill made the same fatuous argument on here for years: no detail, just Independence. Meanwhile, most people want concrete answers on currency, Bank of last resort, land ownership etc. etc. you know grown up stuff that the SNP are incapable of articulating or actually doing”

      Peter Bell can say any crap with confidence as he doesn’t understand how stupid and uninformed he is. Peter Bell is more interested in hearing his own voice like most blawbags.

      Stephen Paton writes for the National does he not ? Nuff said.

    159. Stuart MacKay says:

      Lochside

      Of course, it can’t just be “we need to be independent”. However up to now we have the SNP’s vision for independence and precious little else. What Paton and Bell appear to be suggesting is that the “end the Union” space needs to be explored and mapped out. In other words there needs to be a consensus built that the union is not in Scotland’s interest. We can leave the “vision thing” once everybody has agreed that leaving is the best way forward.

      Here’s text of a comment I tried to post on Bell’s site but WordPress wouldn’t allow me for some reason. Hopefully it explains better my point:


      The problem with simply ending the Union is that it begs the question
      “now what?” Hence the desire to rush in with lots and lots of vision
      in a desperate attempt to fill in the blanks.

      But what about the “soft-noes” many will cry. Without vision they’ll
      just say no. Well the simple answer is that the “noes” are saying so
      because they either don’t trust or don’t agree with the vision part.

      Putting more effort into why the Union should be ended would solve
      this problem. The door would be open for the “noes” to add their bit
      and perhaps we’d all get to the point where everybody could agree that
      their interests would be better served in an independent nation rather
      than shackled in some form to the neighbour next door.

      Laying out all the reasons why the Union should end would neatly solve
      the “Kenny MacAskill” problem which is just a rewording of the “all
      SNP, all the time” that we currently have as the only option after
      independence. The more diversity we have in wanting an end to the
      Union the more likely it will happen.

      Excellent stuff Peter. I’d like to see you mine this a lot more. It’s
      a direction that nobody else has really cottoned onto yet, other than
      “Tories baaad, baaad” which does not qualify.

      Anyways, I’m up for anything that gets us out of this morass and away from the SNP’s vision of Woketopia.

    160. Don says:

      @Stuart MacKay 14 June, 2021 at 10:49 am

      “Laying out all the reasons why the Union should end would neatly solve the “Kenny MacAskill” problem which is just a rewording of the “all SNP, all the time” that we currently have as the only option after independence. The more diversity we have in wanting an end to the Union the more likely it will happen”

      So you agree with the far Right Wing Tartan Tory Andrew Wilson that Indy WOULD be very painful with 3-4 times as much Austerity as Tory Austerity but it would still be worth it ? You actually think Scots would vote for 3-4 times higher Austerity to get away from Tory Austerity ? https://notesonnationalism.substack.com/p/are-we-supposed-to-take-this-seriously

    161. Don says:

      @J.o.e 14 June, 2021 at 7:56 am

      “Just listening to a Naomi Wolf interview on https://corona-ausschuss.de/en/

      I can see why you like Naomi Wolf though, still in your invented fantasy bunker then ?
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57374241

    162. Republicofscotland says:

      So Boris Johnson said at the G7 summit that, “The UK is indivisible”, and he added that “We will do whatever it takes to protect the territorial integrity of the UK.”

      The above statements make it pretty clear that the PM will never allow the Scottish colony to leave the UK.

      Of course Johnson needn’t worry about the Scottish colony leaving this horrid union, for our very own colonial government doesn’t want independence either.

      At least today’s football match will allow some to believe that Scotland is a country and not a colony.

    163. J.o.e says:

      Breastplate says:
      14 June, 2021 at 10:11 am
      Joe,
      You are correct that the biggest criminals in history were well presented in fine clothes or uniforms, however we can vote for the type of representatives we want to change things.
      No guns needed just the ballot box.

      That we are unable as an electorate to vote decent people into office is our own fault because the fact of the matter is we are gullible and stupid.
      Gullible and stupid people shouldn’t be allowed a sharp stick let alone a gun.

      When all is said and done, we get exactly what we deserve.
      ——————-

      Well that is where I draw a line. Im not interested in tyranny by the 0.0001% nor the dumb 51% who know nothing and are interested in knowing nothing and are happy to cede everything to a corrupt cabal to receive back temporarily some of their rights at the point of an experimental medical technology.

      The bottom line is a citizenry that has the means to project force. Even if the rights are kept to ex service members or whatever.

      Right now we are literally at the mercy of just how badly their propaganda is believed and taken up by the dumb masses.

      Enough people believe this crap and we will lose our rights, possibly our children and our future.

      I find it astonishing that anyone can look at the possibility of a 1984 type of future and think ‘well, at least we don’t have guns’.

    164. Skip_NC says:

      This is an urgent plea for help. Is there anyone else from the USA who is not at home and, therefore, not hooked up to their home internet but is still able to watch the Scotland game? ESPN has the rights here and you either have to be hooked up to your cable TV device or pay a hard-to-cancel monthly charge to watch.

      I have heard of something called a VPN. Does that work?

    165. Breastplate says:

      Skip, not sure I can help but perhaps try
      hesgoal dot com

    166. Breastplate says:

      Joe,
      instead of having complete fuckwits watching soaps and sport, we will have complete fuckwits with guns watching soaps and sport.

      Nothing political will change.

      There will be no political awakening with an uzi 9mm.

    167. Davie Oga says:

      Skip

      https://reddt1.soccerstreams.net/event/scotland-czech-republic-live-stream/653173

      Also there is a decent free vpn called windscribe that usually gets you into UK and US restricted content.

      https://windscribe.com/

    168. Skip_NC says:

      Thanks for the suggestion, Breastplate. However, as I am at work (I am a tax accountant) the security software I am required to use blocked it. Unfortunately, although I am self-employed,. I have to be in the office today so I can’t take the morning off and watch it from home on ESPN.

    169. Skip_NC says:

      Scratch that. Got a picture now. Didn’t like IE, which is the default web browser on my machine, in accordance with US Treasurey regulations. Works in Firefox.

    170. Sensible Dave says:

      Oooops!

    171. Tannadice Boy says:

      If you have watched as many live football games as I have you get to know when it’s not your day. The first Czech was a good goal. The second goal, is the goal of the tournament so far. Sometimes you have to suck it up. Are we out not yet?. No but it will be difficult to qualify now.

    172. Skip_NC says:

      Tannadice Boy, remember four out of six third places go through. Granted that probably means getting something out of each game, but we’re not done yet.

    173. Cudneycareless says:

      Today’s lessons : how to lose with good grace. Thank you St. Nicola

    174. Tannadice Boy says:

      Skip_NC 3:56pm
      True, I am not saying we are out. But we need to beat England on Friday. For once can we get a set of results that allows us to progress through the back door. I will take that.

    175. Sensible Dave says:

      … putting the gentle goading to one side, it strikes me that Scottish football may have suffered more because of very good foreign players joining their league.

      I don’t have the stats to back this up, but didn’t the old scottish teams comprise top Scots playing in England in the top league – plus the pick of the best predominantly from Celtic and Rangers. The Celtic and Rangers squads these days have lots of non-scots playing for them – therefore reducing the opportunities for home grown talent at the highest level of Scottish football?

    176. Tannadice Boy says:

      @Sensible Dave 4:09pm
      Obviously having qualified for our first tournament in 23 years our game is not in a good place. I saw Andrew Robertson’s debut for Dundee United. What struck me about him was his maturity. 2 forwards coming at him. He waited and back pedalled for 15 metres. Fans shouting at him. He didn’t dive in. When support arrived United won the ball. But I leave the last comment to my wife. She nailed it. Scotland has 2 or 3 players that are World class. But it is a game of 11 players.

    177. Breastplate says:

      Tannadice Boy,
      Scotland played very well, I thought, and yes we could do with world class players in every position but Steve Clarke is taking the team in the right direction.
      A bit of luck here and there works wonders but as others might say, you make your own luck.

      I’m sure we’re entitled to hope for miracles but I’m not sure we’re entitled to expect them.

    178. Tannadice Boy says:

      @Breastplate 4:31pm
      I haven’t criticised Steve Clarke he has done very well in qualifying. I don’t rely on miracles. But at some point we have to get out of the loop of not progressing by any means possible. How about a bit of luck, for a welcomed change.

    179. J.o.e says:

      @Breastplate

      I almost had a tea-out-nose moment when I read your comment. Yes I agree 100%.

      Im not one of those though. Neither are you or most people here.

      As ive said imagine bedraggled peasants being herded onto cattle trucks headed for the gulags drawing comfort from the fact that they were at least properly disarmed, and therefore in no danger of hurting themselves, before the total elimination of their rights began.

    180. Tannadice Boy says:

      @J.o.e 4:40pm
      I am guessing you have never been on active service. If you had been you would understand why your comments hold no gravitas. We endure the democratic process. Eventually the electorate will get it right. Or else the entire middle class will walk out of Scotland. No Doctors, no dentists, no engineers no half decent teachers or lecturers. The denouement of what made Scotland great.

    181. Republicofscotland says:

      My heart goes out to all the young Scotland supporters, who haven’t seen Scotland play in proper tournament for the last 23 years.

      Young lads and lassies walking around Glasgow in Scotland tops, full of optimism that Scotland would win this opener and indeed that they’ll go on and win the whole tournament.

      Old heads who’ve lived through the ecstasy and the agony, well more agony than ecstasy, of supporting Scotland have seen it all before, the hype, the songs, the unflinching confidence, and ultimately the losses and deflation.

      Yes the Scottish national football team is an enigma, able to beat on its day, the best in the world, but also to lose when losing looked unlikely, to snatch glorious failure from the jaws of victory, but the Tartan Army is in my opinion faithful, and the best football supporters in the world.

      Bring on England I say.

    182. Sensible Dave says:

      RoS 5.00

      Yep so we will meet once again. England are capable of losing to Iceland and a wounded Scotland are capable of beating anyone (especially England) on their day so hopefully 5-0 to England and not 0-1 to Scotland. I’m looking forward to it already!

    183. twathater says:

      I watched the introduction of the Scot v Check game on the English Broadcasting channel disguised as bbc Jockland and I can honestly say I have never witnessed such an extended montage of denigration , ridicule and downright open insult to the people of a country , what made it even more sickening , repugnant and reprehensible is that it was collated composed and narrated by supposed Scots in Scotland , we are told that there are many good people working for the bbc in Scotland who are proud of their country and quietly support independence, if that is the case they should hang their heads in SHAME for the open hostility and ridicule shown by their employer toward their countrymen

      It was an open SMEAR at the failures of Scottish sports with the exaggerated emphasis of the years between qualification , it was designed to denigrate , belittle and reinforce the inferior mantra , it was an open deliberate display of the contempt the bbc and it’s minions have for Scotland and Scots , and we should never forget that

    184. Don says:

      @twathater 14 June, 2021 at 5:26 pm
      I watched the introduction of the Scot v Check game on the English Broadcasting channel disguised as bbc Jockland and I can honestly say I have never witnessed such an extended montage of denigration , ridicule and downright open insult to the people of a country , what made it even more sickening , repugnant and reprehensible is that it was collated composed and narrated by supposed Scots in Scotland , we are told that there are many good people working for the bbc in Scotland who are proud of their country and quietly support independence, if that is the case they should hang their heads in SHAME for the open hostility and ridicule shown by their employer toward their countrymen

      It was an open SMEAR at the failures of Scottish sports with the exaggerated emphasis of the years between qualification , it was designed to denigrate , belittle and reinforce the inferior mantra , it was an open deliberate display of the contempt the bbc and it’s minions have for Scotland and Scots , and we should never forget that”

      Just your usual BS delusion then and trying to blame others as always. We lost as we are too wee and too shite. End of.

    185. Lulu Bells says:

      Miss you Stuart Campbell

    186. Republicofscotland says:

      In an article in the National newspaper today Professor of Law at Aberdeen university Scott Crichton Styles, says of Scotland’s Lord Advocate that he (Wolfe) “Is a man of complete integrity and honesty.”

      Hmmm….

    187. Republicofscotland says:

      wee monkey.

      Obviously its not genuine, but it might as well be, for Sturgeon has scored more goals against Scotland, than the Czech Republic ever will.

    188. Republicofscotland says:

      Stephen Paton, a regular columnist deriding the Alba party, Alex Salmond and Neale Hanvey in the National newspaper today.

      https://www.thenational.scot/news/19369726.single-unifying-vision-indy-unrealistic/

    189. Why is it when a Scottish player gets the ball all his team mates run away from him,

      all other teams close in and play short passes,

      anyhoo f@ck the fitba till Friday,

      anyhho deux, Scotland being represented on the world stage this week in California at the World`s Strongest Man 2021,

      Luke Stoltman (6`3″) and his bro Tom (6`8″) are in the top 20 strongest men in the world and have a wee chance of winning or placing,

      obviously it`s no fitba so they get hee haw funding or media reporting from their home country.

    190. Robert Graham says:

      Yep gubbed again ,

      The thread headline was right ,

      its been some time since I bothered watching any football and ages since I watched Scotland and I didn’t recognise any of the players and definatly not the manager who is hardly a household name and a defender at that ,I guess the boys tried their best but average wont cut it at this level .

      As for mediocrity the whole country is just about average and led by a useless First Minister who is scared of her own shadow , lions led by fkn sheep aye the futures fkn bright isn’t it

    191. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Republicofscotland’s National link archived so you can read the whole thing…

      https://archive.is/iKgsp

    192. Breastplate says:

      Tannadice Boy,
      My apologies if you thought I was having a go at you, I wasn’t.
      I just wanted to record my thoughts on the matter at this time. Steve Clarke has done very well since he has come in but needs more time when the inevitable shouts for his resignation or sacking when we can’t progress.

      You’re right about needing a bit of luck at times and I’m sure we’ll get some going forward because this Scotland team has been playing consistently the best football for quite a few decades as far as I’m concerned. They’re actually trying to play football rather than defend and hope for a chance on the break or a set play or send out a team with no fucking strikers ( I still can’t believe that happened).

      I believe there’s more to come from them if we manage to hang on to Steve Clarke and his back room staff.

      Anyway, I hope we get loads of luck on Friday.

    193. Tannadice Boy says:

      @Breastplate 7:18pm
      No worries we are all disappointed. It’s the kids I feel for. People long in the tooth have been here many times before. The kids haven’t had lots of experience at this level. We can always hope for a great victory on Friday. We need it!

    194. Effigy says:

      We still have interests in the Euros.
      Austrian player David Alaba is playing well
      and tonight Spanish player Alba faces up to Sweden.

      Wonder if Alex Salmond persuaded them to join?

      PS David Marshall faces a fine for travelling outside his
      Lockdown Zone as well as his goal area.

      I never got to travel that far in 6 months.

    195. Breeks says:

      Republicofscotland says:
      14 June, 2021 at 6:16 pm
      Stephen Paton, a regular columnist deriding the Alba party, Alex Salmond and Neale Hanvey in the National newspaper today.

      https://www.thenational.scot/news/19369726.single-unifying-vision-indy-unrealistic/

      What a load of aimless pish.

      Paton seems the kind of dreep who is largely responsible for Sturgeon being canonised for doing sweet fk all for 7 years. Can you believe it? 7 fkg years. NOTHING.

      Keep going Alba. Build it, they will come. Just like Alex Salmond built it in 2013-14, and built it from a standing start, not like you know who, who inherited a juggernaut charged with forward momentum, and proceeded to pull it’s wheels off and paint it with rainbow graffiti.

      It’s just another marvel of Alex Salmond that he got a YES Movement up and running, firing on all cylinders, never realising it was carrying so much dead weight like Paton and all the other SNP 1 & 2 flubadubs.

    196. Breeks says:

      Actually, the more I think about that “article”, the more I think we’ll hear more and more of the same shite, because the SNP have dropped the ball, and ALBA has picked it up.

      Every time the SNP now bleats about not having the numbers to push through legislation, they’ll be facing the same questions about why they cocked their leg and pissed over a pro-Indy supermajority.

      I think they’re beginning to realise they’ve fkd it. The cretins are so bitter they literally cut off their nose to spite both their faces.

    197. Dan says:

      If it’s all about the welfare and rights of minorities… One ponders if there was any consideration of, or consultation with those suffering from chromophobia, prior to NHS Scotland putting multi-coloured badges on their staff…

    198. Robert Hughes says:

      Ahem n aw that …..upon reflection ( n a ” few ” fitbaw related whiskies later )

      Apologies for my earlier post re N Oliver – cannae stand the guy n his constant ( well paid ) doing down of our country – but , still …..wee bit puerile on my part to enter into tabloidesque territory

    199. Republicofscotland says:

      Brian @7.09pm.

      Thanks Brian I had to go out so no time to archive

    200. Lochside says:

      J.O.E. 90..you are a pernicious troll extolling arming people. You are also transparent with your islamphobia…the recent snidey reference to the Kriss Donald murder was unsubtle to put it mildly. The perps were caught and imprisoned. What goes on in English or US cities with rape gangs of whatever race is not for what remains of this forum to focus on. Your alt rite shite should go somewhere else and stink up the blogsphere. BTW shame on a regular contributor, who shall remain nameless who having lost his marbles over ‘covid’ conspiracy theories gives you any creedence.

      On more relevant Scottish matters…thanks to Alf Baird for his Mull ferry videos. I suggest more people on this site watch them and read his book ‘Doun Hauden’ for a true and erudite analysis of what is wrong with the colony formerly known as Scotland. For all you who know that Sturgeon is a fraud and the SNP are a front for Britnat continuing occupation of our government institutions, legal and police structures this is the pre-eminent book to get a hold of.

      Prof Alf is also way ahead in the seeing the reality that dare not speak its name: the ongoing demographic economic ‘plantation’ taking place in Scotland . The covid outcome, apart from death and limitations on our liberties is the migration of huge numbers of RUK population seeking better and bigger housing now working remotely is the ‘new now’. Our young will become even more dispossessed, less jobs and housing. Queen Woke will welcome the new ‘Scots’ (joke)..according to the REF vote, they will continue to vote 3 to 1 ration against our liberation until they get either partition or subjugation, such as was achieved in Ireland one hundred years ago. Once our supine SFA chuck it and FIFA insist on a BRIT team, we won’t have to suffer anymore humiliation on the fitba ( not ‘footy’) field,like today ( yet again)

    201. Republicofscotland says:

      Breeks @7.55pm.

      I think the likes of Paton and the trans community still fear the Alba party and its inevitable rise, so they must continually put it down.

      The Alba party is the party of Scottish independence, and they know it.

    202. Breeks says:

      It kinda niggled me what on Earth Paton was on about. The YES Movement isn’t trying to build a “single unifying vision”. It never has been. It has always been the very broadest of Kirks, and nothing has changed. What’s he talking about? Then the penny dropped.

      What Paton is describing isn’t this “single unifying vision”, what he’s actually talking about (without actually realising it himself I suspect), is the initiative. The SNP have squandered both the initiative and momentum by sitting on their arse for seven years, and ALBA has now taken that initiative from them. That’s what’s got his goat.

      It’s not a great big one-size-fits-all “unifying vision”, that’s waffle. What he means is the critical path initiative, the fast track, the vibrant essence of the YES Movement… the vital spark. The SNP has lost it’s “Precious”, and Bilbo Salmond has it in his pocket.

      I think, (I hope), Alex Salmond might be about to give the SNP a patient masterclass in strategic Generalship. Only a fool would choose to make an enemy of Alex Salmond, and Sturgeon is about to be the proverbial boiled frog sitting in a pan of water.

      The time will come when the SNP will have to decide whether it circles the drain, or swallows it’s pride and accepts it has treated Alex Salmond and ALBA with thoroughly undeserved and inappropriate vilification, because ALBA is now firmly ensconced, having staked it’s claim exactly where the SNP wanted to be.

      All roads now lead to ALBA, not the SNP.

    203. Captain Yossarian says:

      Effigy says:
      14 June, 2021 at 7:54 pm

      “PS David Marshall faces a fine for travelling outside his
      Lockdown Zone as well as his goal area.

      I never got to travel that far in 6 months.”

      I think we were beaten today by what might prove to be one of the goals of the tournament, scored by one of the players of the tournament.

      I’ve seen a few great goals over the years and that was a belter.

      We had four of five good chances in the second half and so 2-0 may that accurate a reflection on the balance of play, but I’m afraid at these tournaments it is the exceptional players that turn you over and so it was today.

    204. Lochside says:

      Stuart Mackay…Consider the Common Weal and Business For Scotland etc etc. never mind all the bloggers who matter. The R.I.C. even. All have provided a breadth of vision both in direction and the nuts and bolts required to achieve those inventive but often conflicting visions. But the End was always Independence for them all. The ‘YES’ movement inspired the huge increase in the positive REF vote and indeed the turnout itself and came to represent the actual mobilisation by the people of those ideas and hopes and aspirations.

      The ordinary people that I canvassed at the REF were hungry for affirmation that Scotland wasn’t too poor, or too stupid, or for that matter too wee to take control. Because of the REV’s WBB I know I converted many people, as did many others who used to contribute to this site. The ordinary working people need basic facts and the means to achieve a better Scotland, not a return to an even more impoverished facsimile of municipal SLAB with an over arching cruel tory westminster cowl suffocating them. One that they had for 40 years.

      Neither do they crave the complete miasmic mirage of SNP woke dictatorship represented by fat eunuchs such as Paton,Harvie et al led by Queen Bee Nic. But, at the present, they appear to be acting like a Stepford nation, mesmerised by media aided bullshit propaganda on the ‘victory’ over Covid. See Iain Lawson’s blog ( Yours for Scotland) to see how horrendously bad Sturgeon has performed. But the truth will out one day.

    205. Captain Yossarian says:

      @Tannadice Boy – Getting on very well now. There’s a big ‘arms length public body’ looking at the design just now. I presume the idea is that they are too big and too trusted by the public to be bullied by the Holyrood fandango and their myriad of vested interests.

      This public body were involved in the investigation into the tragic Stonehaven derailment at the start of the year, which was caused by a similar problem.

    206. PacMan says:

      It does feel inevitable that there won’t be any way the SNP will be furthering the argument for independence in any way in the next term of the next Scottish parliament, never mind holding an independence referendum.

      I wonder though if Nicola Sturgeon will still be around by the end of the term? I don’t think she will be gone due to the various dirty deeds she has has committed over the year but will she end up being a political casualty of the pandemic which until now has been her political saviour?

      As with the Boris Johnson announcement earlier, the narrative seems to have changed from mass vaccination saving us from restriction to one that we will need restrictions until vaccines are modified to deal with current and future variants.

      Logically, that sounds the only position that can be taken but will we be willing to spend another winter under some form of lock down, which while not as strict as what we experienced at the beginning of this year, but still restrictions that the expectation we are given would not be needed?

      While Sturgeons power is absolute at the moment, will the SNP MSP’s and MP’s be afraid of losing their generous benefits at the hands of an unforgiving electorate, push her out or weaken her position by forcing her to change her position?

      It’s too early to say at the moment but then again, she might sliver out of it. She was able to manipulate the data to ease restrictions before the election so she can manipulate the data again to keep hold her position in power.

    207. Hugh Jarse says:

      I’m looking for a word to describe Aunties relishing her chance to do a double dunt on the Scottish psyche.
      I’ve lost count of the times I’ve been reminded on R4 & 6, that not only did we lose, it’s an aberration we got there at all.

      Unrelenting?
      Smothering?

      Whatever’s, it’s just not cricket!

    208. stonefree says:

      Sturgeon’s new hero.
      I read the article and just thought Sturgeon

      https://archive.is/ydJNt
      Apologies for source

    209. Effigy says:

      Just listened to that babbling fool the English made Prime Minister.
      He forgets to mention key elements of his speech,
      he can’t remember questions just asked and he waffles around
      on questions he can’t or won’t answer.

      Travel Agents are affected much more than pubs or restaurants.
      They don’t get any money until the clients actually travel.
      They have booked, cancelled, booked, cancelled booked and cancelled again.
      Some travelled on green lights only to have them turned off when they arrive abroad
      Thousands wasted by families with lost holidays, Covid tests and isolation.

      With Tory ministers today saying you are able to travel while another says you can’t?
      Boris encouraging you can travel again after 19th July?

      How many are dumb enough to believe what these clowns say and book a foreign holiday
      for this year. Pretty much no one.

      Travel Agency doors may be open but with the few bookings going around being for the Summer
      of 2022, what will Travel Agents live off until pay day arrives in 9 months time?

      If the Tories stick to no more grants after September thousands of jobs will be lost.

    210. Dan says:

      Warning: May induce bad acid flashbacks.
      I didn’t click for sound but I’ll hazard a guess they were stating they’d Self Identified as a TransMalabarSquirrel.

      https://twitter.com/KingsSpotland/status/1404502512149925894

      Oh to simpler times when you chose to venture into crazy alternative reality states of your own volition, and not have the State force crazy alternative reality on you every fookin day…

    211. Alf Baird says:

      Albert Memmi suggested that the only two outcomes for a people under colonial rule are either ‘assimilation or petrification’. The SNP elite appear to fall into the latter category, scared to address or face the oppressor in any meaningful sense, and in the process wasting successive elected national majorities of Scotland’s MPs and MSPs in favour of independence. In essence, doing nothing, unwilling or ‘unable to move’ (i.e. ‘petrification’).

      It seems difficult not to conclude that the SNP elite’s unwillingness to do anything about independence is the result of their ‘petrification’. There are clearly many avenues they could take either individually or collectively in order to up the ante, with examples such as:

      – hold a plebiscite election (May was an opportunity)
      – use the elected sovereign nationalist majorities at Westminster and Holyrood to withdraw Scotland from UK
      – take a Scottish delegation to the UN and its Decolonization Committee C24 and make the case for decolonization, which is independence
      – test the lawfulness of Scotland’s MP’s withdrawal of Scotland from the UK treaty in a Scottish court
      – hold another referendum without a S.30
      – introduce secondary criteria for national referendum voting (as in New Caledonia)
      – non-cooperation with Downing St
      – withdrawal of SNP MPs from Westminster
      – dissolve Holyrood and hold a plebiscite election on independence
      – establish a Scottish Civil Service
      – Appoint senior personnel running Scotland’s public bodies from among Scots
      – close the border
      – set up ferry ports in Scotland and introduce direct ferry links to the continent
      – get Scotland to apply to join EFTA
      – establish shadow ministries for reserved powers
      – etc etc

      There is much that can be done, however the SNP elite are clearly scared to do anything about independence or even to prepare the ground for independence.

    212. J.o.e says:

      Im trying to figure out who this mystery regular contributor is who made the heretical mistake of agreeing once with someone the screeching progressive bedwetters hate?

      Btw Lochside, I hate to tell you, but its not only the English that are capable of influencing the politics of a country through demographic change, though I know that’s the only ones your warped moral compass will allow you to say a negative word about.

    213. J.o.e says:

      Sorry. Had to add – im still chuckling, though I shouldn’t be.

      Anyone who is sitting in our Covid world with the fraudulent tests/stats, lockdowns and now still experimental vaccine rollout to kids and looming vaccine passports losing their shit about someone suggesting that maybe some of the regular populace should be armed is peak progressive Scottish Indy.

      Just to be sure – im not talking about breastplate here.

    214. Don says:

      @J.o.e 14 June, 2021 at 11:58 pm

      “Anyone who is sitting in our Covid world with the fraudulent tests/stats, lockdowns and now still experimental vaccine rollout to kids and looming vaccine passports losing their shit about someone suggesting that maybe some of the regular populace should be armed is peak progressive Scottish Indy.”

      What you are trying to say J.o.e. is that you are better informed than all these professors and academics ? That right aye or is the truth you are just a clueless conspiracy theorist Anti Vaxxer ?
      https://bit.ly/2UaDOsZ

    215. David Caledonia says:

      Steve and Scotland 442

      I would not care what team I played if I was a manager with this formation, 8 defenders and 6 attackers, but you have to have 4 midfielders that can run all day and be as fit as a butchers dog.
      I was amazed at the space and time that scotland gave the czech team and the czech’s where allowed by a weak referee to push the scottish players even when the ball was in the air.
      That first goal should never have been, jumping up with an attacker trying to head the ball, you must make sure you are up with him and just lean into him to put him off balance and not get his header in, when your defending a corner or a set play situation all of your players must be standing shoulder to shoulder with the other teams players and it should be a criminal offence in football terms to let anyone stand behind you and you not marking them at corner situations etc etc
      Scotland have an excellent team, but the players have to be made aware, that football is like a game of chess where every player has a job to do counteract your opponent.

      I put a quid on scotland to win the whole tournament
      not because I think they will win it, its because I
      know they could win it if they go on to that pitch and
      believe they are as good as anybody.

      Just like our nation, to many hold us back with their lack
      of belief in themselves and us, as the song says, flower of
      scotland, when will we see your like again, I hope its in my
      lifetime, but time is getting short for me, Alba is the way
      foreward, Alba is for people with confidence, belief, and the
      certainty that we as a nation are as good as anybody, and
      better than most, not big headed, but sure of ourselves and
      in our ability as a people of substance and humanity

      ALBA GU BRA

    216. David Caledonia says:

      As far as I am concerned you don’t have to take the vaccinations if you don’t want to.
      But if you where my brother and you wanted to come into my mothers house I would not allow you in if you did not get the vaccine, put your own health at risk but not my mothers.
      My mother died a few years ago btw, and all us brothers have had the vaccines

    217. Luigi says:

      10 days after my second Astra vaccine I developed shingles. No serious illness for 30 years and suddenly my immune system is compromised. Coincidence maybe. Has anyone else experienced this? The media will be instructed to play down or deny side-effects. All I know is that I had chicken pox virus dormant in my body for decades. A few days after my 2nd covid vaccine the wee buggers were reactivated. Just sayin.That said, with hindsight I probably would still take the vaccine.

    218. David Caledonia says:

      I have never read or heard of this Paton character until he was mentioned on here, and I won’t bother to read his brainless drivel either from what I have picked up on him so far
      If you believe in god, what is the point listening to an atheist, as the programme says.

      Its Pointless

    219. President Xiden says:

      I see the BBC have removed Devi Sridhar’s false claim that vaccines are 100% safe for children from their article. This woman is a fanatic.

    220. Stuart MacKay says:

      Alf Baird

      The Economist covered Thomas Picketty’s recent paper on demographics and politics.

      https://archive.is/8HVMB (I bet Don gets a kick out of me linking to an London School of Economics paper after I blasted him for the same reason)

      The interesting part was the graphs they show to support their point. Essentially in 1970 the top X%, in education and income voted for right wing parties and the bottom voted for left wing parties. Now the top X% have moved entirely to the left, except for the very rich and the bottom now vote for right wing parties. This is a trend that has been going on for decades and can be see across many western countries.

      So the SNP are petrified because their metropolitan elite base is only and can only ever be a fraction of the population and they will never be able to convince enough voters that their vision of independence (compassion for greyhounds, gender politics and climate change – all the issues the bearded scrotums love) is the right one. They are also petrified because real indpendence just might put at risk their comfortable lifestyles.

      There is also an assimilation aspect to what the SNP want. Except there trying to assimilate Scots into their own liberal elite on a world scale. Hence all the gender woo-woo as Nicola tries to impress her superiors in the USA.

      The interesting part of Picketty’s trends is that the changes are outwith Scotland’s control and to get independence they will have to be taken into account otherwise the struggle will be just like trying to get out of a tarpit.

    221. David Caledonia says:

      Luigi

      When you take an aspirin their is a side affect but for most of us it never affects us at all, I had ulcer problems, so I could not take aspirin, a friend of mine had the same problem and he ended up in hospital in a near death situation.
      He took powders for the flu, the powders contain aspirin and they caused his ulcers to bleed, very lucky he never died, but if he had died, it would have been because of his own ignorance and stupidity

    222. David Caledonia says:

      My friend with the ulcers used to sit with 2 hamburger rolls and a cup of tea, he had his rennies beside him ready for the heartburn.
      Some people never learn, a bit of pleasure followed by a load of misery

    223. Luigi says:

      David of course there are side effects and as I said I would probably still take the vaccine. My issue is that the media have been instructed to downplay the side effects as if we are all idiots. There have been a number of shingles cases linked to covid vaccine in Isreal but you wouldn’t know unless you searched. The media are keeping things tight as instructed.

    224. J.o.e says:

      Lads, you are welcome to take whatever it is you think is worthwhile.

      Given the way our governments are misusing PCR to generate the statistics for infections and deaths compared with WHO and PHE advice, the fact that the vaccines are still officially in clinical trials until 2023 and the looming prospect of vaccine passports to restrict those who aren’t going to take them I would have thought that someone with intelligence would be a little more critical.

      But honestly, knock yourselves out. I won’t be taking anything while the lies, coersion and brow beating continues and anything I do take will have at least finished clinical trials.

    225. David Caledonia says:

      How can chicken pox remain dormant in a persons body for decades, chicken pox is a deadly disease, if it has a host it will live off that host till it kills it and moves on to another.
      My mother had painful shingles in her face for a long time, not curable but treatable, correct medication, and the pain just disappeared

    226. Forcing or coercing citizens to wear certain badges by the State has a long history before the 20th century,

      Henry III of England in 1253 issued `The Statute of Jewry` where article nine commanded that “every Jew wear his badge conspicuously on his breast”,

      later this led to his son Edward I of England expelling all Jews from England with the Edict of Expulsion 1290,

      Jews were not allowed back in England for 350 years until Oliver Cromwell permitted Jews to return to England in 1657.

    227. David Caledonia says:

      Do what you want, but do not come near me with your anti/vaccine nonesense, spanish flu, up to a hundred million died, difference between then and now, we have a vaccine they did not.

      Facts are Facts

    228. Stuart MacKay says:

      David Caledonia

      Here you go, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickenpox

      After a chickenpox infection, the virus remains dormant in the body’s nerve tissues. The immune system keeps the virus at bay, but later in life, usually in an adult, it can be reactivated and cause a different form of the viral infection called shingles (also known as herpes zoster).

    229. David Caledonia says:

      Vaccines are being tested every day of the week, medical science does not sit on its arse all day waiting for a virus to show up, be a good paying job right enough if you got paid to sit on your arse and only work one day in the year…………….

      Bliss lol

    230. Breastplate says:

      David Caledonia,
      Perhaps you are thinking of smallpox.

      Also, did you know that having had the vaccine, you can still contract and pass on the virus to anyone including your mother if she were alive?

      The claim is that the vaccine ensures you have less severe symptoms.

    231. Stuart MacKay says:

      Lochside @9:30pm

      Your right and I was not taking everything that has been done already into account. I do still think there is something in the diversity argument though.

      The SNP have become the intellectuals party now so it will literally be impossible for them to deliver independence because they simply cannot enunciate a position that is intelligible to all the people they need to vote Yes. They certainly won’t give up Nicola’s vision for an independent Scotland, if such a thing exists.

      Much better to take the Yes movement out of the hands of the politicians. If we wait for them to deliver then it’s likely to be a long one.

    232. David Caledonia says:

      Chicken pox will probably kill you, if your not vaccinated, polio has seriously affected a friend of mine for about 60 years, and I know of one other guy who was the same.
      They must have been off school the day we where all vaccinated against it, and nobody bothered to follow up on the kids that never got it, and people like them got polio and life for them was never the same

    233. David Caledonia says:

      Smallpox chicken pox, measles, scarlet fever, go look in any graveyard at the old headstones, full of kids that died young from all sorts of diseases

      No vaccines in those days, you got it, you usually died from it

    234. David Caledonia says:

      That was my point, you can be a carrier my brother so feck off your not coming into our mothers house, over my dead body is your only way in here

    235. David Caledonia says:

      and don’t forget my mother would have been vaccinated, but why take the chance with older people who are suffering other health problems without un/vaccinated idiots appearing at the door

    236. J.o.e says:

      Has anyone noticed the sheer amount of people who cannot or will not differentiate between concern for the covid vaccines and being an ‘anti-vaxxer’?

      It is disingenuous in the extreme and paints the people who hold these positions as coming from a position of emotion rather than logic.

    237. J.o.e says:

      Don’t trust a vaccine that is still in its experimental stages that has the media and big tech running cover for it and from an industry with a long criminal track record of corruption and endangerment to the public while being pushed by government ministers who are actively enriching themselves by getting in on the situation?

      Antivaxxer.

    238. J.o.e says:

      @Stuart Mackay

      Once in the early 90’s my mother told me that she was passing a queue at the dole office with her female boss and once past her boss said ‘these people really don’t like to work, do they?’ She was tory through and through.

      I have had numerous exchanges with well-to-do left leaning people who when I bring up the problems with housing, jobs and benefits to the working class that mass immigration causes the response has been in the line of ‘yes, but the British working class don’t want those jobs’.

      Progressives are now often just as despicable in their blind obnoxious arrogance as the Tories of yore

    239. Breastplate says:

      David Caledonia,
      I’m not sure you understand.
      If you were looking after a vulnerable person it would not make a blind bit of difference whether the people who came into your house were vaccinated or not. That vulnerable person has the same chance of contracting the virus.

      The vaccination does not cure you from the virus, the vaccination does not stop you contracting the virus, the vaccination does not stop you from carrying the virus and the vaccination does not stop you from infecting others from the virus.

      If this is true, what are we left with?

      It is a simple evaluation of risk and reward.

      Should a demographic that is prone to a severe negative outcome from the virus get the vaccine?
      Weigh up the risks and reward.
      The answer is YES.

      Should a demographic that is prone to mild or no negative outcomes from the virus get the vaccine?
      Weigh up the risks and rewards.
      The answer is NO.

    240. Robert Hughes says:

      ” Has anyone noticed the sheer amount of people who cannot or will not differentiate between concern for the covid vaccines and being an ‘anti-vaxxer’? ”

      Excuse my repetition of this point but I think it deserves to be repeated

      Is the increasingly fractious division of societies into pro and anti vaxxers not yet more – possibly the most corrosive yet – method of keeping us all at each others throats whilst ( BIG ) Business carries-on it’s plunder of those same societies ?

      If one person receives all their Covid-related information from MSM sources and another mostly from ,say , UK Column , they will have totally different perceptions/opinions on the subject , both believing their * take * is more accurate than the others .To state the obvious

      The point is , whats happening around Corona is as much a war of Information/Perception as it is a – supposed , War on an Apocalyptic Virus , again to state the obvious , but rather than fighting among ourselves , would it not be more productive and honest to allow more access to equally credible , qualified * dissident * medical and legal opinions and subject the dominant/dominating MSM narratives to much more scrutiny than at present ?

    241. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Lochside –

      If you were referring to me, as you have before, let me repeat myself…

      I’m not J.o.e’s keeper and I don’t automatically agree with every comment he makes.

      But when it comes to being ‘vaccine hesitant’, he, like the growing number here and everywhere else, is only reflecting growing unease. And I share that. I’m at the point where it seems well-nigh pointless to comment on anything else. It’s almost like Graham Linehan chucking writing because you just can’t do ‘satire’ when you’ve got characters like yon Alex Gallagher(?) cutting about saying that they’re actually lesbian women.

      Last night I accidentally watched part of the BBC 6 o’clock news. I honestly can’t remember the last time I watched it. Literally years. Fiona Bruce was presenting. Health correspondent Fergus Walsh appeared, to give her an update on what’s happening re lockdown, and it was astonishing – to listen to this man you would think that the vaccination roll-out has been the greatest medical achievement of all time. The stats were duly paraded – over 70% have had the first jab, over 60% have had both, blahdy-blah (those are just guesses from memory) and he was almost wetting himself with excitement over how wonderful it all is. ‘Astonishing success’.

      People who get their news only from BBC and other msm sources are not ‘informed’. I’ll put it no stronger than that. And if they’ve not been properly informed then the whole apparatus for getting the ‘jags in arms’ is certainly unethical and quite probably criminal.

      Before switching the telly off I also happened to see (at half-time of a game on ITV) a Scottish govt commercial aimed at our young people. It actually contained the same assurances that forced the BBC to withdraw a script on Newsround in which Devi stated that the vaccines are 100% safe for children.

      The next major protest is in London on June 26th. Now that the 21st ‘opening up’ has been furthered postponed, the protest is likely to be even larger than the last, which was estimated at a million people and didn’t get a mention by the BBC.

    242. J.o.e says:

      @Robert Hughes

      Good point Robert but I will say that the same people who are always throwing the ‘anti-vaxxer’ name tag to anyone with some critical thinking are the very same who promote the MSM (who lied us into wars, economic crises that enriched criminally liable bankers with our tax money and constantly push pro war propaganda against certain states) while denouncing any other sources of information, including multi-decade industry insiders, as conspiracy theorists.

      They are either paid to do this or are simply unreachable

    243. Effigy says:

      I’m totally sickened by the corruption of governments and facing the facts that
      the working class are totally owned by the right wing rich.

      They own the TV the Radio the newspapers and each day you are fed their lies and deceit.

      The banks are back doing what they did when crashing the economy, we get Zero interest on
      any money we saved, house prices going through the roof, the desperation just to have any kind
      of rotten job to try and stay afloat.

      Blair selling the U.K. to America for his own personal gain, Brown doing ever so well sell his PPI deals where your grandkids will still be paying the interest, the Tory Emergency contracts handing out Billions to their donors, Boris having free holidays and £200K make overs at No 10, his brother
      landing a job with Tax avoiding Dyson, Hancock’s family and even pub landlord getting dodgy NHS
      contracts, Cameron using his influence looking for a £60 Million pay day and it is all accepted without a whimper setting the way forward for the dumb working classes to be robbed and abused in the name of the Empire.

      There is no left or centre opposition. There is no trade Union of old with any strength,

      Human rights are a fanciful take to give hope to the hopeless.

      The game is over!

    244. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Effigy (9.30) –

      ‘The game is over!’

      It certainly feels that way at times.

      And you’re right to mention Blair after his disgraceful posturing last week.

      It pulls you up short sometimes, just remembering that he’s walking about, free. And Prince Andrew too. And so many others who we *know* were up to their necks in criminality, just never ever brought to justice.

      Perhaps that’s why they feel so emboldened now.

    245. PaulaJ says:

      The obvious question, yet one I don’t see being asked is this:

      If these various vaccines (that were rushed into use on the public under Emergency legislation) are as safe as is being claimed, why did governments around the world have to agree to total indemnity for the pharma companies who make them?

      Obviously, the pharma companies felt the need to protect themselves, so what is it that we’re not being told?

      One possibility is that, because they don’t work like normal vaccines, and the testing was so compressed compared to normal procedure, they’re worried about long-term effects that can’t be predicted.

      Either way, it looks like a mass experiment and we’ll only know the outcome a few years (or more?) down the line.

      In the meantime, teeth are rotting because routine dentistry has been put on hold, cancer sufferers have died from NHS unavailability due to covid focus, there’s a huge backlog of health problems to catch up on….

      And we won’t ever know whether this was worth it because inquiries, when they happen, are always arranged so that they can’t follow where the evidence leads.

      I’m betting that the churches start to see improving attendance from now on.

    246. Dave Somerville says:

      Our Perverted Lezzy Leader’s plan to put indyRef2 on the back burner seems to be working.

      It’s becoming a distant afterthought.

      Out of sight, out of mind, as they say.

      Anyway, it won’t stop me saying my little prayer every night, hoping that the evil little Bastard wakes up dead one morning.

    247. Stuart MacKay says:

      J.o.e

      Progressives are probably more deserving of contempt for they believe their self-righteousness is a virtue.

      When I was in the US, the liberals despised the poor, white, rednecks with the same intensity that they used to despise people of colour. The clothes might be new but the people inside them are just the same.

    248. Robert Hughes says:

      J.o.e

      Like Ian B , I have no problem repeatedly agreeing with you ( or anyone else ) , for the simple reason that I DO agree with you .

      Your point above is another instance of this . How people can’t see the connection between the examples you give and the present force-fed Covid narrative is truly baffling to me .

      If * they * can devastate a country , like Iraq , on the basis of fabricated lies about WMD , they can also , easily it seems , exploit this current situation to suit their own agenda/s.

    249. Don says:

      PaulaJ 15 June, 2021 at 9:45 am

      “The obvious question, yet one I don’t see being asked is this”

      Its not an “obvious question” the issue is your lack of understanding of the issue.

      “If these various vaccines (that were rushed into use on the public under Emergency legislation) are as safe as is being claimed, why did governments around the world have to agree to total indemnity for the pharma companies who make them ?
      Obviously, the pharma companies felt the need to protect themselves, so what is it that we’re not being told ?”

      They were NOT rushed , modern Biotech can make changes to existing vaccines very quickly. Sars Vaccine already existed , Covid19 is SARS virus so it just had to be tweaked to be better matched for Covid 19. The base Virus the AZ/Oxford Vaccine is bases on is the Adenovirus Vaccine which has been around and used widely for more than 50 years, thats hardly “rushed” is it , the problem is only one thing and that is “ignorance” of the truth.

      “One possibility is that, because they don’t work like normal vaccines, and the testing was so compressed compared to normal procedure, they’re worried about long-term effects that can’t be predicted.”

      More of your invented BS. 🙂

      “Either way, it looks like a mass experiment and we’ll only know the outcome a few years (or more?) down the line”

      No ,just because you choose to call it an experiment doesn’t mean that it is.

      “In the meantime, teeth are rotting because routine dentistry has been put on hold, cancer sufferers have died from NHS unavailability due to covid focus, there’s a huge backlog of health problems to catch up on….”

      more Bullshit from you , with family in the NHS I know both Dentistry and cancer and heart treatments still going on , i know someone in their 80’s in Scotland who had a pacemaker fitted right in the middle of the first wave , less of the crap you have read on conspiracy pages please.

      “And we won’t ever know whether this was worth it because inquiries, when they happen, are always arranged so that they can’t follow where the evidence leads.”

      More utter pish from you ,straight from the conspiracy theorists handbook.

      “I’m betting that the churches start to see improving attendance from now on.”

      Hahhahahhhahhahah your completely feckin mental , Pixywine is that really you ?

    250. Stuart MacKay says:

      PaulaJ

      There’s a much simpler answer. A full clinical trial takes a long time. Time was the one thing that nobody had, hence the certifications for emergency use.

      It was a calculated decision. Maybe it would have gone horribly wrong but there would have been enough data available to say that was extremely unlikely.

      I do agree the media are hiding any side-effects however the data is available. I don’t have the links but there are regular reports uploaded to UK gov websites which are accessible publicly that list every case where there was an adverse reaction to the vaccine. Where adverse ranges from “mild fever” through to death.

      Ministers many be incompetent and the media is colluding to hide unfavourable information and keep the population on the “you must get vaccinated” path but nobody is taking people into this with their eyes closed.

    251. JimuckMac says:

      Don, Covid 19 was removed from the UK’s High Consequence Disease Register (HCID) 15 months ago because of it’s ‘low mortality’ rate, the SARS virus is still on this register and killed 700 in the U.K. Can you explain to me why people are getting vaccinated?

    252. Don says:

      PaulaJ 15 June, 2021 at 9:45 am

      “If these various vaccines are as safe as is being claimed, why did governments around the world have to agree to total indemnity for the pharma companies who make them?
      Obviously, the pharma companies felt the need to protect themselves, so what is it that we’re not being told?”

      You clearly are one of those peopel who need told “everything” instead of being able to think and rationalise things for yourself.

      Vaccines are on the whole very safe however a very small number of people have bad reactions to them just as people can have very bad rections from food stuffs like Peanuts for instance , the fact that a tiny % ofpeople can react to Peanuts or Bee stings and then Die doesn’t been we kill or the Bees or ban Peanuts from the Foodchain. Try thinking harder.

      Pharma companies can’t identify who might have bad reactions so a Government encouraging administering of vaccines to the population has to take that responsibility happening , its not the Pharma companies doing the injections its the Government with the known calculated very small risk.

      The Government indemnity scheme for Vaccine is NOT anything new and has been around for decades simply because random people can have random unknown reactions to vaccines https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment

    253. Breastplate says:

      Stuart MacKay,
      If the public have their eyes open, do you think, as a general rule that it is right and proper to vaccinate children with one of the new vaccines?

    254. Lochside says:

      ‘J.o.e says:
      14 June, 2021 at 11:54 pm
      Im trying to figure out who this mystery regular contributor is who made the heretical mistake of agreeing once with someone the screeching progressive bedwetters hate?

      Btw Lochside, I hate to tell you, but its not only the English that are capable of influencing the politics of a country through demographic change, though I know that’s the only ones your warped moral compass will allow you to say a negative word about.’//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

      Well I think if anyone has a ‘warped moral compass’ it’s you J.O.E. you bogus Troll. It’s not the ENGLISH, it’s RUK btw and why does it matter? Because of IDENTITY, not race or religion or mass immigration, which is your warped take on things. The English have migrated for centuries into Scotland and are part of the genetic makeup of Scotland along with all the others. The difference is that the political imperialism of the British State has affected the electorate in the most numerous parts of the UK i.e. England and Wales. These RUK immigrants are generally, like you, anti-immigrant in their own countries and consider anyone outside of their homeland, inferior. Their votes tell us that. I include the N.I. caucus of refugee ‘loyalist’ clustered in Ayrshire and the West. Most of whom are genetically ‘Ulster Scots’.

      These voters, imperialists, both middle class and working class do not IDENTIFY themselves as Scottish and see Scotland’s attempt to assert its Sovereignty as alien and wrong. They are the biggest existential threat to our IDENTITY, not boatloads of poor refugees drowning in the English Channel. Unlike the 4% of BAME residents and other nationalities who do not pose any threat but add to the healthy diversity of our country unlike the gammon brits.

      BTW I don’t know who the ”screeching bedwetters you talk about are. Progressive politics offends you because of your profession (squaddie) or because of your bigoted racist beliefs. Your wee anecdote about the broo’ walk past with your maw and her boss..sounds like shite as well. I lived through Thatcher and believe me anybody that did, will not forget the hatred that woman engendered in most working people and what she did to Scotland.

      That lesson taught us that we cannot afford to be ruled by anybody else. Sturgeon is teaching us another hard lesson, that the Brit State will do anything to hold on to us and drain all out resources and use every means, including trolls like you to undermine our struggle.

    255. Dan says:

      Aye, some dentistry is still going on now. But not all routine stuff because the new working practices mean the volume of patients being treated now compared to pre covid is less. Plus dentists are still trying to catch up with the backlog of work caused when nothing other than emergency treatment was allowed at the start and during lockdown.

    256. Breastplate says:

      Don,
      Paula isn’t talking about vaccines generally, she is talking about vaccines specifically.

      Misrepresenting Paula’s argument does nobody any favours but I suppose we can’t really expect much from a nitwit such as yourself.

    257. Lochside says:

      Effigy @ 9.30…..I feel your pain. But don’t give up. I felt the same way after the Scot Election. Smug Sturgeon and a derisory Alba vote. But the struggle must go on. The ordinary working people and the principled few leaders that still exist must mobilise and create a new and clear sighted ‘YES’ movement from the remains of what the Woke/Brits have tried to destroy.

      Despite the mass deliberate disinformation with ‘Covid’ being perpetrated by Sturgeon/Johnson on the one hand and the conspiracy nuts on the other, we can come out of this mess with the eye on the prize. You are a long time contributor, who has remained consistent and true to the cause…keep the faith!

    258. J.o.e says:

      ‘BTW I don’t know who the ”screeching bedwetters you talk about are’

      Then make a cup of tea and read your own comments toward me lol

    259. J.o.e says:

      @Stuart Mackay

      Regarding your comment at 10:07 what do you think of the discrepancy between the way we are, and have been, using PCR to build up the infection and death statistics versus the WHO and PHE guidance along with the statements about the potential misuse of PCR as a diagnostic tool made by its inventor Kary Mullis?

      If we are misusing PCR then the statistics generated from that use are fraudulent wouldn’t you say?

    260. Stuart MacKay says:

      Breastplate

      Here’s what I “know” about covid and the vaccine:

      1. Children right now don’t appear to get symptoms and don’t appear to get sick. The evidence this is the apparent low incidence and death rate for teachers.

      2. It’s not clear how infectious children are but it seems they are not – unless schools are remarkably well ventilated otherwise teachers would be getting sick in large numbers.

      3. A lot of medicines are not given to children for the simple reason they’re not tested on them. It’s also unethical to do so.

      What I don’t know:

      1. How are children different from adults with respect to covid. There must be some significant difference – for example more protective mucous / lack of chronic lung damage that prevents the virus from entering the body.

      2. How are new medicines tested on children. Are vaccines any different. How were existing vaccines tested (maybe they were given to a bunch of kids in Africa and not too many died).

      So, based on that, it would appear that vaccinating children is a waste of money and the vaccines should be given to poorer countries.

      Clearly if you have the supply chains set up there’s a strong profit motive to vaccinate absolutely everybody. However I’ll leave that to the consciences of the people involved.

    261. Alf Baird says:

      @Stuart Mackay

      On colonial assimilation, postcolonialism tells us that a Scots Language Act will be essential if we want a Scottish identity and our national consciousness to survive. Without national consciousness (Fanon), which in our case is dependent on what still remains of the Scots language and culture, there can be no desire for Scottish independence and nationhood.

      As Albert Memmi wrote on decolonization: “the most urgent claim of a group about to revive is certainly the liberation and restoration of its language. In recovering his autonomous and separate destiny, he immediately goes back to his own tongue.”

    262. Breastplate says:

      Stuart MacKay,
      I can’t disagree with much of what you have said but I would be more interested in the risk v benefit aspect of vaccinations.

      We know that people with compromised immune systems are high risk from Covid such as the elderly and believe that they will benefit from taking the vaccine because the risk of side effects from the vaccine would appear to be less than the effects of Covid.

      Kids don’t have compromised immune systems and we know that they can deal with Covid exceptionally well.
      If you have no benefit from a vaccine but the risks of known and unknown side effects, given the information we have, it is completely illogical to give kids the vaccine, probably unethical too.

      There will be those in the middle where it is a bit more of a gamble whether to take a vaccine that is deemed safe by pharmaceutical companies that were in a race with each other to release their version.

      Are all versions safe?
      Are all versions equally safe?
      Do all versions have the same side effects?
      Do different versions work better on different demographics?
      Are the public walking into this with their eyes open? I would suggest not.

    263. Stuart MacKay says:

      Breastplate

      These are the questions that need to be asked. Whether you can do that on a large scale is open to question. Maybe once all the numbers are crunched in a few months or years then there might be good answers which will serve well if covid really is here to stay.

      The media we have right now with the fixation on breaking news and simple narratives are inadequate to the task in delivering anything like the kind of information needed for people to make an informed choice.

      Root and branch reform of large swathes of “society” would be needed to correct all the problems revealed by this pandemic. Will it happen? Of course not.

    264. Stuart MacKay says:

      J.o.e

      I answered your question on PCR result validity but the response is stuck in moderation for some unknown reason. If it does not appear in a while I’ll try and reformulate and repost.

      The essence of my answer is: PCR is still tricky and easy to get wrong. If you suddenly try to do it on an industrial scale the results are going to be garbage.

    265. Robert Hughes says:

      Stuart

      You probably already know that the inventor of the PCR Test is on record as saying it was never designed for mass test or diagnostic purposes .

      I the fckn inventor is saying that why is it still being used in this way ?

    266. Robert Hughes says:

      * testing *

    267. Stuart MacKay says:

      Alf Baird,

      > On colonial assimilation, postcolonialism tells us that a
      > Scots Language Act will be essential if we want a Scottish
      > identity and our national consciousness to survive.

      I always thought that this was somewhat esoteric given that “language” is just a tool for communication. However from what you said about petrification and assimilation I definitely understand it now.

      This is definitely going to be a problem going forward. The Hoi Polloi definitely won’t embrace their linguistic heritage with a barge pole for all the reasons that dialect were beaten out of children at school or accents were modified when folks moved south.

      It’s more raw politics than left vs right and it will be interesting to see if there is a way to fix it.

    268. Gordon Currie says:

      There’s an interesting table on the ONS website for deaths in 2020. the page title is:

      “Pre-existing conditions of people who died due to Covid-19, England and Wales.”

      It break down these deaths by the top 20 pre-existing conditions- the total number of deaths is 148,462.

      Row 28 details “records without pre-existing conditions” The total number is 9400, equivalent to 6.3 %

    269. John H. (The original one) says:

      I’ve been wondering about just how many SNHS nurses who have until now voted SNP will do so after the badge fiasco. You would almost think that Sturgeon was turning people off deliberately.

    270. James Che. says:

      Covid and the G7.
      All smiles and elbow bumps in front of tv cameras and media, and behind the scenes later on no personal spacing, no masks and plenty of hugging at a follow on BBQ.
      The rulers of the world playing the acting part of pretence for the public.
      So how real and dangerous do they actually think covid is?
      Another covid issue. By British government is not in its self, against migrants, however it is another double standard,
      Under the uk governments dispersal scheme for migrants, migrants have been moved across counties of Britain while everyone else has had to be in lockdown in their homes,
      The incident in Glasgow of the police being called out to a stabbing informs us all of when the migrants arrived,
      The Mears Group whom as a private company registered in England were award by the Uk 1million to house these migrants do not mention how long self isolating was or where they were vaccinated against covid,
      I believe another branch of the Mears Group does homecare and is now insisting their employees have to be vaccinated OR are threatened with losing their job. I have viewed the letter sent out to their employees.
      One of their employees recently asked if I could help them as they had worked for the company years before covid was ever heard of, and the enforcement of covid vaccine or any vaccine for that matter was not included in their original contract, now they are being threatened with losing their long term employment if they do not comply,
      You have to query the double standards being played out in Great Britain regards the pressure on the indigenous public having to abide by covid rules of lockdown and vaccinations, while our prime minister and other leaders did not not have to meet in person at the G7 summit in Cornwall, flying in on big jets and then travelling by fancy cars plus going on to meet up to eat where no social distances were observed or masks,
      , And migrants moving across counties during a period of lockdown, that we were prevented from doing wether we had been vaccinated or not. Also preventing us from moving across counties to see friends or family.
      With these facts out in the mainstream media and televised how could you NOT come to the conclusion that something is not sitting quite right with regards the lockdown for us while the rest of the leaders of countries ignore the rules and give approval to the moving of migrants across counties of Britain as far as Glasgow and Aberdeen.
      Meanwhile the young royals sent up to Scotland by the queen and uk government also seem to be miraculously exempt from spreading covid to different counties of Britain.
      Personally it seems there could be good reason to suspect it is more than a conspiracy theory.
      The uk government must be laughing up its sleeve at how gullible we are, all they needed to do for population control was I still fear,
      We experienced this fear mongering method of psychological warfare in 2014.

    271. James Che. says:

      Ahem, that’s meant to read,” instil fear”

    272. Fireproofjim says:

      Amid all the Covid arguments and football woes I notice that the House of Lords is about to get another six HEREDITARY lords, elected by the other fifty hereditary lords who are there because they have money and land and are Tories.
      This means that there will now be twenty-six appointed Church of England bishops, fifty hereditary lords, about three hundred Tory donors, about two hundred Labour and Lib Dem troughers and perhaps fifty who could be said to be there on merit.
      Utterly insane and corrupt and yet they can enable legislation to rule over us and we pay for it.
      For all their faults, at least the SNP refuse all such “honours”.
      For over a hundred years the establishment parties have promised the end of the Lords and failed to do anything about it.

    273. Confused says:

      2 enters makes a paragraph

    274. stuart mctavish says:

      Breastplate @11:55

      Re are all vaccines equally safe.

      It says much about the state of contemporary partnering/ ownership/ security/ industrial espionage/ etc that you wait anywhere between 5 and 5000 years for a vaccine, ie to avoid getting stung whilst collecting the ingredients for nettle tea, only for half a dozen different pharmaceutical sources to produce its own unique miracle at warp speed – just when it was said to be needed most.

      Re was Eriksen vaccinated (which someone else may or may not have referred to)

      Could be either AC Milan or Danish national team is running a doping program aka US Postal, hence the apparent omerta among the players

    275. Breeks says:

      David Caledonia says:
      15 June, 2021 at 7:51 am

      Some people never learn, a bit of pleasure followed by a load of misery…

      In fairness to your pal, he might have a hiatus hernia. It’s very common, when the muscle at the top of your stomach gets a bit weak and lets a bit of acid reflux into your gullet.

      A doc will check it out, possibly / probably fire a camera down his gullet to check it’s not cancer or something else nasty causing the reflux, then put him on a pill a day and he’ll be sorted with a new lease of life, and he can stop buying shares in Rennies.

      My dad had a terrible bother with an ulcer, and for a long time, I thought I was just taking after him, and needed a pack of Rennes with me at all times. Couldn’t drink Whisky at all without really suffering for it, and even fruit was too acidic. My diet was ok too, not brilliant with fruit off limits, but good enough to doubt that a bad diet was causing it. I just put up with it for about 10 years, thinking it was just the same stomach my dad had, but I went to the doc one Christmas and that was that. Sorted, and never looked back.

      You can actually buy the stuff without a prescription, (though it’s dear-ish), but it’s much better seeing the doc first, before you start suppressing symptoms that might be warning you about something else more serious.

      Make your pal go. If it is a hiatus hernia, and I think it’s something like 1 in 4 of us will have one at some stage in life, the doc can make it go away and let you enjoy your grub and whisky again, trouble free, and without the nasty aftermath of raging heartburn.

      If it is that, the sooner you go, the higher the chance that it can actually be healed good as new, not just managed on a pill a day. It’s an easy fix, so don’t be a martyr.

    276. Breastplate says:

      Stuart MacKay,
      Yes, agreed.

      Gordon Currie,
      I’m not sure what the case is now but earlier in the pandemic, obesity was not considered a co-morbidity.
      Being fat in general means you’re not in tip top condition and would also help explain the large number of deaths in the UK.
      We are a fat nation and an unhealthy nation.

    277. Breastplate says:

      stuart mctavish,
      as a cynical type of person myself, I believe my trust should be earned and I believe I’m entitled to simple answers to simple questions.
      Unfortunately, I believe there happens to be a lot of unanswered questions.

      Has the pharmaceutical industry earned my trust?
      Not by a long chalk.

      I’m fine with people trusting these profit driven companies but I’m not one of them.

    278. Pixywine says:

      The trouble with vaccine drug pushers is their emotive what ifery. Crazy convoluted ways your granny can die if the unclean step over their door.
      David Caledonia. If I had a brother like you I would disown him.
      All the emotion is coming from Government propaganda pumped with steroids by All the news media. Its so obvious I don’t know why people are still falling for end of the world narratives. Look at the Government rentamob Extinction Rebellion telling us the world is coming to an end. They have a worse hit rate on catastrophic armageddon than the Jehovas Witnesses. Funny how Extinction Rebbelion – aye right – always want more of what world governments want
      Our whole political narrative is false and under the control of the usual greedy London capitalists.

    279. Robert Hughes says:

      Good post James Che .

      The last comment from me on the subject ( for today anyway * wink * )

      Co-morbidities. Obesity/Overweight . Age ( 75 and over ) account for the vast majority of Covid fatalities .

      These deaths are no less sad or significant because of this : but the FACT is if you don’t fall into any these categories the risk of dying , or even becoming ill from Covid is vanishingly small .

      Yet massive societal upheaval is being caused in the name of * prevention *

      Can this really be justified ?

    280. Pixywine says:

      Since the ” vaccine” is being trialled on the public it makes sense for the Pharmaceutical Industry to want to test their snake oils effect on children. It’ll be babies next the ultimate control group.
      The PCR is being spun at too many cycles to produce an accurate result and that’s deliberate. While we are locked down and curtailment of liberties is still lockdown, we are at a distinct political disadvantage. Those who read this with no comment if you have questions if you have doubts about government policies speak to your family and friends or even strangers in a bread queue. Media narrative is too one sided to be true.

    281. Pixywine says:

      The PCR is being spun too high so that an inaccurate result is desired and its sold as a ” case”. Had to clear that up there.

    282. Stuart MacKay says:

      Here’s the reformulation of the earlier post about PCR tests.

      My wife uses PCR all the time for her research. Here is the list of things I know from third-hand experience that could go wrong:

      a) is the sample being collected properly – some testers barely insert the swab, others give a full lobotomy.

      b) is the solution into which the sample is deposited formulated correctly.

      c) were the sample improperly stored – usually the buffer solution works at room temperature but leaving them in a warm room or in the sun for a couple of days is a no no.

      d) does the lab doing the testing have any experience with PCR

      e) does the person running the tests have any experience with PCR

      f) are the chemicals or equipment used old or new

      g) is there any cross contamination of the samples

      h) if there were doubts with the test are the samples re-run (my guess is no)

      i) is there pressure to perform as many tests as quickly as possible.

      j) are there control sample run to calculate the error rate (my guess is no)

      Anyways you get the idea. There’s a lot that can go wrong from start to finish. The number of positive tests is probably wildly wrong. In some ways that does not matter since the errors are likely to be consistent and so might even out on a very large scale. Relying on the numbers instead simply using them as a trend (are cases increasing or decreasing) is probably a bad idea.

    283. J.o.e says:

      @Stuart Mackay

      Thanks for answering in such an in depth way. I appreciate it.

      Everything you have said continues to leave open the possibility that statistics could be very inaccurate.

      However i’d like to add to what you have said that the WHO and Public Health England (and who knows how many other public health bodies) have explicitly said that a PCR ‘test’ absent symptoms or other information is basically meaningless. I can link these sources again if anybody asks.

      These are the stats from which lockdowns and roll out of experimental vaccines (including to children) and the possible introduction of vaccine passports are based on.

      This, to wildly understate it, is an unacceptable situation.

    284. Republicofscotland says:

      So the Better Together champion Blair McDougall, wrote on social media that he felt sad that Scots couldn’t support England in the Euros.

      I wonder if there are French folk who get in the neck from fellow French politicians for not say supporting Germany and so forth or in McDougall’s eyes are Scots the only nasty folk who don’t support a foreign countries team.

      Meanwhile it been revealed that pretendy Scot (and there’s plenty of them) Michael Gove wanted to hold discussions with the Scottish government during Scotland’s opening footy match.

      I wonder if Gove will be so unaccommodating when England play their euro footy matches, somehow I doubt it.

    285. Republicofscotland says:

      Sad to read that Common Weal is to close its online news platform in July this year. I’ve read some very good Robin McAlpine articles in it on the machinations of the SNP under Sturgeon the Betrayers tenure.

      Thankfully a new website will arise at a unspecified later date.

    286. Republicofscotland says:

      Neil Oliver who called the Scottish independence movement a cancer, and is now with GB news a BritNat propaganda channel akin to Fox news in America, was introduced by pretendy Scot Andrew (Brillo) Neil as the King of Scotland, Oliver loves the title and has even grown a Robert the Bruce beard to cement the position in his deluded mind.

      Apparently Oliver who some dipshit appointed head of the NTS for a while which cost it a fortune in membership money, as folk cancelled them, received a fan mail addressed to him as The King of Scotland, and, it supposedly still got delivered to his house.

      GB news is nothing more than a unionist echochamber, summed up by Neil himself when he said on air we are proud to be British. I’m sure you are Mr Neil, but we’re not.

    287. wee monkey says:

      6,370 new cases in the last week.

      900,000 yes, 900,000 doses of Covid vaccination were available to Scotland last week AND WERE NOT USED !!

      Now I understand it’s boring for the first minister, who seemingly has gone on to more important things, but the rest of us mere mortals are somewhat concerned that things may be going to SHIT again after we had the chance to constrict the effect of virus mutation.
      Now who do you blame, anti vaxer morons, those who entice them or the government who seems to be taking the I’m all right jack attitude to many things post election. ? £600,00?? £2,700,000,000??? How are Big Pharma’s account’s doing????

    288. James Che. says:

      Robert Hughes.
      I dare say there are higher risk groups, I would be one of them, not because I am over weight or over 75. Or a bad diet or lack of exercise Etc,
      I have a liver disfunction, due to blood clot, having formed due to gallstones in gallbladder excessively swelling and blocking blood supply to liver, thus causing extensive swelling of the liver and thereby damaging its ability to perform normally.

      How did this health issue go so far unrecognised.?
      The NHS were dealing solely with covid and closed to normal patients and so was my doctors surgery during this pandemic and lockdown endangering my life more than Covid 19. Telephone appointments only,I was told to take a paracetamol, I was in agony by night time, my spouse called an ambulance and I had an emergency op, but I am now left with liver damage.
      Now I can’t take the vaccine due to my liver not being able to cope with the ingredients in the vaccine,

      That is only one story in amongst many, what about cancer patients going undiagnosed or heart patients. Etc.
      There are other serious illnesses not having continuous chemotherapy or medical help that people are dying of that out numbers deaths OF Covid.
      That is how I began to wake up and research covid deaths and compare deaths caused by other illnesses, including Flu deaths,
      Once you’re awake and no longer under the influence of mainstream media and propaganda there is no going back, you start noticing other contradictions on other issues as well.
      Like The G7 with climate change and how the world leaders ignore their own mantra to arrive in gas guzzling air jets, and big cars, or travelling around the world when there is supposedly a life threatening pandemic on when they could use digital means to link up.
      The worlds leaders by their actions are specifically telling us, “DO AS WE SAY, , NOT AS WE DO”
      One rule for the citizens and public , and a very different rule for goverment leaders and royalty.
      For me it is hard to go back in a box and reverse the research that has led to having my eyes opened,
      Perhaps when others realise their life is only secondary of importance and in nature to the news of a pandemic.
      That killing people by other methods is higher in statistics, they too may wake up.

    289. Nally Anders says:

      A belter from Roddy regarding ‘that’ pledge and those badges. The parallels are only too clear especially now that previous protections for speech in the home has been removed under the forthcoming HCB.
      How I detest She/Her.

      https://www.barrheadboy.com/it-started-with-a-badge/

    290. twathater says:

      @ James Che 1.41pm, a good post James or is it your wife , however I also made the same comment to my wife when looking at the G7 gathering and the celebrations after

      When you look at Biden & Co and the other world leaders who are no spring chickens the question HAS to be asked HTF if all the covid mutations are so easily spreadable and impact the elderly and infirm more adversely why would they participate in this circus

      I have deliberately avoided commenting pro or anti vaccination because my wife and I are auld and have been shielding from the get go , we have tried to educate ourselves to the pro and anti views and outcomes but it is IMPOSSIBLE due to the lies and misinformation being excreted from everywhere by everyone , this situation shouldn’t be about whether people are conspiracy theorists or not,it is about TRUST and let’s face it western governments have totally fucked that up

      Again if you look at the G7 celebrations and the BLATANT ignoring of ANY covid compliance you have to wonder WHO IS RIPPING THE PISH or have they all become superhuman

    291. K Campbell says:

      I’m not on twitter, but view it and there’s folk questioning a post from https://twitter.com/TheHubScot/status/1404787490460942346

      I managed to find what may perhaps be the statement referred to however, it is in a different format (i.e. a tweet) rather than on the web page

      https://www.snp.org/scotland-on-a-different-path/

      So, never, ever, ever will be see INDY under herr sturgeons party

    292. McDuff says:

      Watched the studio pre chat on ITV
      before the Portugal v Hungary game and as usual all present giving their views on this Brittish channel were all English. Well they talked about the Scotland England game being played on Friday and the disparaging and demeaning way a guy named Gary something talked down Scotland was disgusting. Twice he said England would cut Scotland wide open and how it was expected that we would be beaten by Czechoslovakia.
      Does anyone wonder why we never support England.

    293. James Che. says:

      I recently researched Care home deaths, in Germany, Scotland, England, Canada, Ireland, Belgium, Australia, America, France, and just about every country I could think of , and until I did, I had not realised how many countries not only separated and isolated the older generation from loved ones to supposedly keep them safe, causing mental anguish to those patients many of whom did not even understand why.
      But then each country failed to protect the older generation with proper testing and equipment, and many Care homes allowed the release of Covid patients into these very same care homes.
      It is staggers belief the lack of intelligence shown by the leaders of each country and The Pattern followed by so many of them.
      The mass genocide of the elderly across the world.

    294. PacMan says:

      The argument that Covid predominantly affects over 75’s and morbid obese people and the rest of us survives it, on the face of it is valid but the problem is that we in the UK have a fair percentage of our society falls into those categories, particularly obesity, where a quick internet search gives the figures for England as an example:

      https://fingertips.phe.org.uk/profile/national-child-measurement-programme

      At the start of the pandemic, while the vast majority of the population were safe from the virus, the NHS was in threat of not being able to cope with hospitalisations. Therefore, the level of restrictions at the time was justified.

      We are at the beginning of the end of the current pandemic. It means that we won’t have the level of hospitalisations we saw at the peaks over the last year but the issue is the backlog of existing medical procedures.

      Covid hospitalisations takes up wards and staff which in turn reduces the capacity for these backlog medical procedures. Therefore it makes sense that there needs to be some control over the spread of the virus.

      However, we need to be make sure that this isn’t used as an excuse to unnecessarily extend lock down restrictions or keep them at a level where they are not required.

      As I mentioned, I’m not sure the appetite amongst the population for continued lock restrictions can be maintained indefinitely especially as we have done what has been asked of us and have been fully vaccinated, where we were told this would end restrictions. Public opinion will turn against those politicians who think they can milk the pandemic for all it’s worth.

    295. PacMan says:

      @ twathater

      It’s because these world leaders will receive a level of medical care and access to experimental medicines that the rest of us would only dreaming of getting.

      Remember when Trump got the virus during last years election?

    296. J.o.e says:

      Question for economists who are also savvy in digital currency:

      How feasible is it to start a crypto currency and instead of treating it as investment vehicle to be pumped to as a high a price as possible for the benefit of the founders, investors and speculators it instead be run to have minimum volatility to make it a reliable means of exchange in the long term with the ultimate goal of giving Scotland something to transition towards as seamlessly as possible.

      Ive looked at one crypto currency based in Scotland that throws out all the right buzzwords to appeal to Scottish indy types but all im seeing are a group of guys who want their own version of bitcoin to make a ton for themselves – in essence an investment vehicle rather than a legitimate and reliable means of exchange.

      This is an extension of my thoughts when it comes to Scots independence activists using the private sector to achieve what we are stopped from doing by government.

      If initially feasible:
      – could it be ‘pegged’ to the value of the GBP til such a time as Scotland gains autonomy?
      – could such a currency be run transparently or lets say democratically so that everyone has access to the information of what’s going on?
      – what exploitable weaknesses in the international arena would such a venture have that could make it a liability to the Scottish economy?
      – what sort of privately held infrastructure would be necessary and how much would basic start up costs amount to?
      – what could the Scottish or British government and regulators do to scupper such a project?

      If Scots could literally start a viable digital currency (with the express intention of running it as low volatility currency rather than an asset with all the volatility that comes with speculation) then it would be a massive non-political step towards autonomy which is the direction I think we should be looking at until it nears election time.

      Apologies if im being ignorant with any of these questions but I have expressly avoided crypto and therefore find myself much more ignorant than I should be in the subject.

    297. Republicofscotland says:

      This should make for interesting reading.

      “THE UK Government had been ordered to release “secret” polling on attitudes towards the Union and Scottish independence after an SNP MP won a Freedom of Information (FOI) appeal.”

      https://archive.is/KLTBU

    298. Gordon Currie says:

      Further to my post on Covid death without pre-existing conditions, here are the Top 20 WITH pre-existing conditions (read them out in a Tony Blackburn voice if you’re bored)

      1 Dementia and Alzheimer’s disease 18758
      2 Diabetes 14735
      3 Hypertension diseases 13056
      4 Chronic Lower respiratory diseases 11202
      5 Symptoms signs and ill-defined conditions 12113
      6 Diseases of the urinary system 10260
      7 Ischaemic heart diseases 9906

      Original figure (no pre-existing conditions) fits in here
      8 Heart failure and complications and ill-defined heart disease
      6798
      9 Cardiac arrhythmias 6185
      10 Cerebrovascular diseases 5241
      11 Diseases musculoskeletal system and connective tissue 2381
      12 Parkinson’s disease 1970
      13 Malignant neoplasms of lymphoid haematopoietic and related
      tissue 1672
      14 Malignant neoplasm of prostate 1355
      15 Nonrheumatic valve disorders 1241
      16 Pulmonary heart disease,disease of pulmonary circulation 1207
      17 Pulmonary oedema and other intestinal pulmonary diseases 1194
      18 Malignant neoplasm of trachea bronchus and lung 1006
      19 Obesity 980
      20 Cirrhosis and other diseases of liver 969
      21 Records with pre-existing conditions, but none of the above 16013

    299. Republicofscotland says:

      Meanwhile England’s national football team captain Harry Kane says he’s going to do a Patrik Schick against Marshall and Scotland come Friday. If nothing else he’s a cocky wee shit.

      https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/harry-kane-issues-scotland-and-david-marshall-warning-as-england-captain-drops-long-range-heroics-hint/ar-AAL4u9g?ocid=msedgntp

    300. James Che. says:

      Twathater,
      Thank you for you’re comment.
      I hope you an you’re wife have had some other form of freedom during you’re self isolation, I don’t know if you live in the country or town,
      But for mental well being I hope you have a space you can go too. I needed that due to having to self isolate and found metal detecting ideal, and walking our dog, and cycling locally, and doing art and crafts. Painting and decorating, gardening, Research and Just about Everything and anything Trying to keep physically and mentally busy.
      Avoiding dwelling to much on the effects that Covid has indirectly had on my long term health through the absence of the NHS facilities.
      These things often take the life you have in a direction not foreseen or anticipated. The more I learn, the wiser I become. What is going on in the world right now is full of contradictions between the world leaders and the citizens on every level and in every country including Scotland,
      People are confused, others can’t see the wood for the trees. And there are quite a few on here that have such a high level of awareness and intelligence of world events it leaves me gobsmacked and feeling I am only at the beginning of the journey.
      Funny how you had made the comment to your wife, as I had commented to my husband.
      James che is my husbands old site, and we both make comments.
      It is a good sign that it is hard to tell us apart, it must mean we are pretty equal.

    301. Gordon Currie says:

      Joe at 6.38

      What you are asking is all under way, most Central Banks are in the process of creating CBDCs (Central Bank Digital Currencies). These will be run on DLT (distributed ledger technology) and will be connected together by a bridge digital currency (to conver between currencies), supplanting the US$ as the de facto world reserve currency.

      The IMF and WEF are pushing this idea as part of “the great reset”, and Christine Lagarde, formerly of the IMF and now Chair of the European Central Bank is a big proponent.

      Mark Carney brought this subject up as he left the Bank of England:

      https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/aug/23/mark-carney-dollar-dominant-replaced-digital-currency

      The idea is to go back to something resembling the Gold Standard, with money being a store of value and a unit of measure, as it was always intended to be. Digital currencies are deflationary by definition, as they are limited in quantity and a tiny piece is destroyed with every transaction

      This should suit Scotland, as the underlying resource which backs the currency will be Natural Capital, of which we have abundance.

      The distributed ledger technology itself is run in a cloud environment, so a subset representing an economic unit (such as a country) can be up and running in a matter of months at negligible cost compared to creating a whole new traditional banking infrastructure (which would be obsolete by the time we get independence). Ironically, the BoE has already this technology in it’s RTGS (real time gross settlements) system – if you’ve ever moved money between bank accounts, it’s now instantaneous and importantly at a cost of less than 1p.

      Swift are very worried!

      There’s a lot more to it than this, if anyone is interested look at Ripple Labs, they’re in the vanguard of the DLT and are to go-to people for National Central Banks with their DLT called RippleNet. Also look as their native coin XRP, which is poised to be the bridge cryptocurrency providing liquidity to allow transfer of value between CBDCs in 2-3 seconds at a cost of .0001c (Swift takes 2-3 days or more and their charges are a % of the transaction value).

    302. Tannadice Boy says:

      @Nally Anders 5:06pm
      Good luck with NHS staff wearing a badge. My son is an A and E doctor. He expressedly forbid me for clapping for NHS staff. Why? Other countries look after their health staff better. An example Australia. Better stats on avoiding burn out in A and E staff. Virtue signaling doesn’t cut it for these guys. Can we learn? It depends on whether you trust Nicla. They don’t.

    303. James Che. says:

      Pac-Man.
      I understand what you are trying say with regards to the NHS and Covid, however this does explain abandoning thousands of other patients to slow and often painful deaths of cancer, heart attacks, mental illnesses and suicides etc,
      The stats show in great numbers with equalisation between the many causes of deaths verses covid alone, that the covid should not have been the sole purpose of the NHS, especially as the UK government had years previously discussed and assessed the impact a pandemic would have on the NHS and then did nothing to implement a provision for such an emergency.
      There is no excuse that the NHS was unable to cope, however just before covid broke the UK government was very busy sending good foreign? Doctors and nurses back home to their own countries due to Brexit, and new immigration laws,
      I often wonder how we managed to cope with thousands upon thousands of seriously injured soldiers during WW2, while still seeing to Flu outbreaks, heart attacks, suicides, old age related illnesses, births and with no recognised NHS at that time.
      Perhaps the country was not run by idiots or climate change and globalisation at that time. Perhaps their minds were less focused on woke issues and excuses, and more on looking after the citizens and the country we live in.

    304. K Campbell says:

      “once we rebuild Scotland from COVID, there will be an independence referendum”

      the link archived (check the last tweet from the SNP twitter account)
      https://archive.is/q2iZZ

    305. Breeks says:

      So Scotland’s NHS staff have to wear a badge supporting LGBT rights, or else their name goes on a list with a Christmas Tree drawn beside it.

      Cast your mind back to the YES Campaign back in 2014, remember the endless bad news stories about Scotland’s NHS and Scotland’s schools being dreadful and missing all their targets, or some other unmitigated disaster, but then, the story typically fell apart because aggrieved “victim” paraded up and down the BBC studios turned out to be some Better Together stooge? Not just once either… What’s her face Lally was it, related to a Labour Councillor.

      Oh, what was her name now,… was it Eleanor Broadford or something? She ended up going to Glasgow Uni journalism school or some such thing, to churn out more BBC propagandists or something… Every story she did was just a trumped up hatchet job on the NHS.

      Anyway, back then, you knew the BBC hacks were fishing for anti-Independence stories which they intended to flog to death, they were easy to spot, because the subject matter was always a Devolved portfolio so the BBC could fling muck at the Scottish Government.

      Fast forward to 2021, and we now have Sturgeon doing her “enigmatic” best to destabilise Education with Exam fiascos and transvestites in drag going into primary schools. She’s trying to upset and destabilise the NHS with this wholly unnecessary and grossly inappropriate badge wearing tyranny. She has made an absolutely disgraceful mockery of Scottish Justice, yet another Scottish Institution. She has brought Holyrood’s PR voting system massively into disrepute, and squandered about the tenth open goal in a row to push hard and actually win Independence. Even Scotland’s Renewables potential is apparently being short changed. And of course, Scotland’s Finances are now redacted to fk so nobody can add up the figures. And of course, at it’s heart, the utterly despicable smearing of Alex Salmond.

      Heads up Scotland, please, before it’s too late. Sturgeon in 2021 is doing the exact same wrecking job on Scotland’s Devolved competencies and Independence credentials as the Unionist Propagandists were trying to do back in 2013-14.

      Where is the fight against Westminster’s Brexit? Where is the withering condemnation? Why isn’t Scotland standing arm in arm with Ireland and the EU as the UK Government tries to slime it’s way past the very same argument it couldn’t defeat with the Irish Backstop? Where the fk was Scotland’s Constitutional Backstop???

      If you STILL don’t see what Sturgeon is doing, then I just don’t know what it will take to open your eyes… just mosey on over to the WGD allotment, and find a comfy wee spot beside to lie down beside all the other vegetables.

      Does it matter IF Sturgeon is just incompetent or is a bona fide turncoat tr(raitor) to the YES Movement? Because frankly, I struggle to see how self confessed Unionist betrayer could have done a more thorough hatchet job on Scotland’s Independence.

    306. Tannadice Boy says:

      @K Campbell 7:55pm
      True Scotland is on a different path from Boris Johnson. But half of Scotland is on a different path to Nicla.

    307. Breeks says:

      And one last point… why is it that the rabid BBC Propagandists are suddenly so quiet about these “disasters”?

      You might even suppose they’re leaving it to Nicola Sturgeon to cultivate Scotland’s defeat and humiliation, that’s IF we ever get as far as holding another IndyRef before Scotland’s confidence collapses altogether.

    308. Tannadice Boy says:

      @Breeks 8:06pm
      Political refugees vote with their feet. My A and E son Doctor scored top 4 per cent within the UK. And his Dad has sold everything and is close to the border. Their is a choice to be made. It’s getting close

    309. K Campbell says:

      @Tannadice Boy says:
      15 June, 2021 at 8:08 pm
      @K Campbell 7:55pm
      True Scotland is on a different path from Boris Johnson. But half of Scotland is on a different path to Nicla.

      My point though was not about the different path, but about when the indy ref would be held. i.e. 42nd of never and as for a different path, tbh don’t see much difference at all, more a “what Boris says, with ma own wee tweak”

    310. J.o.e says:

      @Gordon Currie

      Thanks for that brilliant summary of the digital currency situation. I was aware in general terms but not to that depth.

      My main point however is how the Scots provide our nation with a currency outside the control of the same old players who are busily setting up the system you describe.

      Is the underlying technology of crypto currency just as advertised i.e decentralised? Or is this a myth. Because if it can be properly decentralised and can be under the full control of a sovereign people for the benefit of that people then I see no advantage in working within the infrastructure of a banking establishment none of us trust already.

      Judging by their own words the WEF are pretty pleased with Covid giving them the chance at this ‘great reset’ and that pretty much rules out any trust for them or their partner organizations.

      My goal would be in the immediate future to work outside of the control of the Scottish or the British government, international financial bodies and the banking cartel to add a real feather to the cap of an independence movement that seeks to expand the frontiers of Scottish sovereignty outside of politics

    311. John Main says:

      “once we rebuild Scotland from COVID, there will be an independence referendum”

      Twenty years away then from when Covid is “defeated”. So 2041 at the very, very earliest. Why 20 years? Because recovery from the 2008 financial crash took 10 years. And that one cost small change in comparison to Covid.

      Next question, when will Covid be defeated? Because every week we are locked down and subject to restrictions is one more week before the 20-year rebuilding program can even start.

    312. James Che. says:

      Dave Caledonia.
      Chicken pox and measles alone do not kill you, or I would be dead now, and I had no vaccine against these illnesses neither did my brothers and sisters, nor our mother and father before us,
      I suppose malnutrition and squalid housing/ living conditions with poor hygiene would weaken children in those days making them very vulnerable to other illnesses like chicken pox, measles.Flu, turberculoses, ,
      There were many other factors that should be included in you’re gravestone statement,
      A lot of these children even in the 20th century were working at an early age down coal mines, in cotton mills, on farms, in quarries, in damp and squalid industrial housing and tenements.
      My father started work at age 12 officially, but was working since the age of 9 years old,
      How was a child meant to have a heathy possibility of staving of these illnesses when how they lived was appalling,
      You can see photographs of children in the winter time with no shoes on and just a shawl against the winter, no hats coats or gloves pouring out of factories into cobbled streets between cars buses and horses.
      Why scare monger and not include other factors that put these children at risk of not surviving.
      If you want to be taken seriously you have recognise the parallels between better housing being introduced, better water supplies, better clothing and footwear, less poverty, the age for starting employment rising, and being at school with a bottle of milk and school meals,
      If you were to do a study or look at a study for poverty areas in Britain today you will find these children are more prone to ill heath and not able to fight of coughs, colds, measles, etc,
      However I am in agreement with you for vaccines for more serious ailments such as polio,

    313. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi J.o.e.

      What I don’t get about “bitcoin”…

      If I spend £X on bitcoins, what tangible asset am I buying a share of?

      I know that if I take £20 out of an ATM, that currency can be spent wherever I like. If it’s Bank of England notes, they’re backed by the Bank of England. If they’re Scottish notes, they’re backed by the £4 Billion lodged at the Bank of England by the Scottish note-issuing banks to cover their notes, so are safe.

      What am I actually buying if I buy bitcoin?

    314. Republicofscotland says:

      Scotland cannot rebuilt (economically) after Covid (even though Covid is here to stay) for Brexit and Johnson’s terrible trade deals such as the Aussie one have made sure of that, not to mention Johnson’s plans to roll back devolution, via the Hub and the stealing of EU powers from Scotland.

      Sturgeon the Betrayer knows this fine well, and she also knows that independence is the only real way that Scotland can rebuild and go on to prosper, however she isn’t interested in Scottish independence, she wheels it out to rally the masses to her and when she’s not happy with the Tory government, we she the SNP’s response in Ian Blackford’s “Scotland won’t stand for it” rhetoric, designed to placate the masses back home in Scotland and to endear us to the SNP.

      There is no magical route to a better, more fairer and prosperous Scotland that doesn’t begin with independence, don’t ever let anyone tell you there is.

    315. J.o.e says:

      @Brian Doonthetoon

      As far as I am aware you are buying into a speculative asset that has no intrinsic underlying value.

      I never have and as far as things stand will never buy into crypto. There is much smarter ways to invest that doesn’t involve placing your money somewhere that a tweet from Elon Musk can lose you 15%.

      However im not talking about any particular crypto currency currently in existence which are all as far as I am concerned investment vehicles or speculative instruments (take your pick) whose main function is to benefit the founders or investors rather than to be a serious medium of exchange.

      What im wondering is if the technology could be used to create a decentralised crypto currency that is not used for speculation or growth of value but merely as a medium of exchange with low volatility to make it a viable alternate currency.

    316. Tannadice Boy says:

      @K Campbell 8:22pm
      We wouldn’t win an Independence Referendum if it was called soon. I am going to quote Stus words “she has poisoned the well”. 20 years from now maybe. Unfortunately footsoldiers like me will be long gone.

    317. James Che. says:

      J. O. E.
      The new currency.
      Bartering. We have a lot to barter in Scotland 🙂

    318. Brian Doonthetoon says:

      Hi J.o.e.

      I have more faith in Premium Bonds.

    319. J.o.e says:

      @James Che

      lol yes id like to keep things that simple also. However people need facility and ease of use if they will take something up en-mass and not simply as a protest

      @Brian Doonthetoon

      Yep. However im not talking really about where to get a return, or inventing a Scottish crypto currency that would be something to invest in for profit (there already is one on the way) but to facilitate an alternate to centralised currencies that brings none of the roller coaster moves of the other crypto currencies and could be used by Scots between each other for services and goods which would for all intents and purposes start an alternate independent Scots economy running parallel to the mainstream one.

    320. K Campbell says:

      Tannadice Boy says:
      15 June, 2021 at 9:00 pm
      @K Campbell 8:22pm
      We wouldn’t win an Independence Referendum if it was called soon. I am going to quote Stus words “she has poisoned the well”. 20 years from now maybe. Unfortunately footsoldiers like me will be long gone.

      Sadly I agree with you, she’s not only poisoned the well but also put a fekking great shuttered concrete lid on top of it.The water has gone stagnant and not even the rats will drink it.
      Nae likely to see it in my lifetime ether, but that won’t stop me fighting for it!!!!
      She and her cabal need to go by fair means or foul and let us re-build from the grass roots up again. Hopefully we won’t need too much miracle gro when she’s gone!!

    321. robertknight says:

      Who’d have thought it’d be Sturgeon who’d ensure any IndyRef was a once in a generation event?

      First Minister of Scotland?

      My arse!

      Governor General of Scotland more like.

    322. Cenchos says:

      ‘Once we rebuild Scotland from COVID, there will be an independence referendum.’

      I note they didn’t say ‘COVID 19’.

      And there‘s always the permafrost-thaw mammoth pox pandemic to come when the global elite start to feel that trillions ain’t enough anymore.

    323. Tannadice Boy says:

      @K Campbell 9:20pm
      Agreed and well said. We have to stop our young people from leaving. He says with one foot oot the door. I blame rank and file SNP members. They allowed this situation to develop. The NEC elections being a good example. Subversion by another means. Take your party back!. The Emperor has no clothes if only SNP members could see that. Wheest for Nicla and the frock wearers.

    324. Mist001 says:

      I bought 90 euros worth of Dogecoin when it was a really stupidly low price at the time. The way I got into it was that Elon Musk made a tweet about it and I thought that this guy might have an idea what he’s talking about, so maybe I ought to have a dash. The price then shot up relatively speaking and I got a fairly serious amount of return on my speculation. I even withdrew my original investment so I’m playing with ‘house’ money now. The whole thing might crash tomorrow but for me, I find it hugely enjoyable and good fun. I’d advise anyone to buy any amount of Dogecoin if they can. This is the way of the future.

      Bitcoin is the famous one and I could have got involved with that back in the day if I’d had the foresight but it was mostly used on the Darkweb as a payment system for drugs, weapons, stuff like that. It was very unsavoury and had a bad rep but look at it now. It’s virtually mainstream and there’s El Salvador, a country, just decided to employ it as an official payment system. Other countries will follow suit sure as night follows day.

      Bitcoin isn’t a currency though. It’s a collectible which means there’s a finite amount of them in circulation and will eventually run out. Their scarcity is what gives them their worth. The more difficult they are to get, the higher the price.

      On the otherhand, Dogecoin is a currency. It’s supply is unlimited and that’s the exact same as the pound, the dollar, and every other currency that you care to mention. All currencies are unlimited and to me, this gives Dogecoin the best chance of being accepted as a legitimate currency. The more retailers that begin to accept it as payment (and there are a lot), the more it becomes mainstream until one day, it’s as natural to use Dogecoin as it is the pound and I find this hugely exciting. It’s the wave of the future and I and many others, are on board with this. This is where Elon Musk is coming from with his tweets about Dogecoin.

      If the people who like to think that they’ll be in charge of an independent Scotland had any foresight or vision, the problem of what currency will be used would be solved immediately, simply by using Dogecoin or something similar. There’s no need for a central bank and everyone has access to the books so there’s no fraud or underhand currency manipulation.

      Anyway, that’s my view on Crypto. Everyone of us has an equal chance to get involved with this. There will always be sceptics but you can’t stop the sea from coming forward.

    325. Derek says:

      WhoRattledYourCage says:
      12 June, 2021 at 11:21 am

      Enough of this hateful censorious liberal fascist yank dogshit. ENOUGH.

      Somebody’s rattled yours, eh?

    326. Derek says:

      James Che. says:

      Bartering. We have a lot to barter in Scotland.

      There’s nothing wrong with bartering, especially with regard to growing things in towns.

    327. Stuart MacKay says:

      Brian Doonthetoon

      Currency is anything that you and I agree is something we can measure value with. Whether that is cowrie shells, tulip bulbs or some imaginary pile of yellow metal sitting somewhere that no one has ever seen is neither here nor there.

      The value in a currency is whether anyone will accept it – hence the problem in the likes of Yorkshire when trying to hand over a £5 note from Bank of Scotland. The interesting part of the crypto-takeover of the American Dollar is whether it commands the same ‘level of respect” – assuming the mining does not cook the planet first. Will the “Great Reset” have the military might to solve problems that the American Government currently can. I’m not so sure. It certainly will be interesting if it tries.

    328. WhoRattledYourCage says:

      ‘Derek says:
      15 June, 2021 at 10:14 pm
      WhoRattledYourCage says:
      12 June, 2021 at 11:21 am

      Enough of this hateful censorious liberal fascist yank dogshit. ENOUGH.

      Somebody’s rattled yours, eh?’

      Hyuck hyuck. Only the millionth time I have heard that ‘original’ ‘joke.’ I now understand why celebs grow to hate their own catchphrases, cos it’s a monster they created. 😉

    329. J.o.e says:

      @Mist001

      The current bunch of crypto are fine as an alternate payment system. But to have a currency that is the basis for an alternate economy requires far, far less volatility otherwise you’d have few except speculators and folk who require discretion getting them. Basically yer maw would have to be happy to use some.

      This is why if the same tech could be used to make a Scottish currency that we could rely on we’d have to initially peg it to the GBP so people could simply transfer value back and forth as required and could count on the value from day to day. It wouldnt be listed for normal trading or investment.

      If Scotland were to gain her autonomy then perhaps it could then be initially pegged to the NOK until the Scottish economy settled down and then it would require actual economists to take it forward.

      One thing is for sure if it could be realised and actually start to be getting used in the real world economy where possible in place of GBP it would be a real bonus to the cause and our actual independence rather than political appearances

    330. James Che. says:

      Derick.
      Am not that quick on the uptake, you’ll have to explain that one to me, 🙂

    331. Dave Somerville says:

      When you think about it, we really are up the creek without a paddle.

      Half of Scots support our Anti-Indy, Pro-Lockdown, Perverted Lezzy Leader,
      and the other half supports the Union with England, led by the screwball Boris.

      How the flyin fuck did we end up in this situation?

    332. Don says:

      J.o.e 15 June, 2021 at 11:21 pm

      “The current bunch of crypto are fine as an alternate payment system. But to have a currency that is the basis for an alternate economy requires far, far less volatility otherwise you’d have few except speculators and folk who require discretion getting them. Basically yer maw would have to be happy to use some.

      This is why if the same tech could be used to make a Scottish currency that we could rely on we’d have to initially peg it to the GBP so people could simply transfer value back and forth as required and could count on the value from day to day. It wouldnt be listed for normal trading or investment.

      If Scotland were to gain her autonomy then perhaps it could then be initially pegged to the NOK until the Scottish economy settled down and then it would require actual economists to take it forward.

      One thing is for sure if it could be realised and actually start to be getting used in the real world economy where possible in place of GBP it would be a real bonus to the cause and our actual independence rather than political appearances”

      all Hilarious stuff from your dreamland fantasy World again , there is no hope a Scottish currency would be worth the same as the UK£ , Scottish Economics are inherently weaker so an Indy currency would be much weaker, not like that will ever happen anyway because the SNP know this which is why thay state Scotland would use “Sterlingisation”which would also ruin Scottish lives. https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19306651.new-scottish-currency-worth-fifth-less-pound-sterling/

      https:https://www.these-islands.co.uk/publications/i330/choose_your_poison_the_snps_currency_headache.aspx

    333. Don says:

      “Stuart MacKay 15 June, 2021 at 10:20 pm

      “Currency is anything that you and I agree is something we can measure value with. Whether that is cowrie shells, tulip bulbs or some imaginary pile of yellow metal sitting somewhere that no one has ever seen is neither here nor there.

      The value in a currency is whether anyone will accept it – hence the problem in the likes of Yorkshire when trying to hand over a £5 note from Bank of Scotland. The interesting part of the crypto-takeover of the American Dollar is whether it commands the same ‘level of respect” – assuming the mining does not cook the planet first. Will the “Great Reset” have the military might to solve problems that the American Government currently can. I’m not so sure. It certainly will be interesting if it tries.”

      Stuart. Financial Times doesn’t agree with you but what do they know huh ? https://www.ft.com/content/aee87c1d-b00f-4c22-ab97-97bb2b042342?fbclid=IwAR3AGxQfUQS7QF3Z_9pyH-1ef7yrS0bfsOkyrgkz-rf-2nO2WCjrtJ8yitk

    334. Dave Somerville says:

      And to add to the farce we find ourselves in, our UK Union lovin’ Scottish Farmers are complaining that the new trade deal with Australia will lower safety standards on the quality of meat being imported, and will reduce demand for the more expensive Scottish sheep products.

      On 18th September 2014, Scottish Farmers were first in the queue to vote to stay in this stinkin Union.

      Now when their English Masters are shitting all over them, they are turning to their fellow Scots for sympathy and support.

      Well all I can say to our down trodden farmers is… Away and take a good fuck tae yersels, ya shower a Unionist Bastards.

      You made yer bed, so you can lie in it.

    335. J.o.e says:

      @Don

      lol. You are fucking stupid.

    336. Saffron Robe says:

      “Once we rebuild Scotland from COVID, there will be an independence referendum.”

      There can be no economic recovery within the Union. Scotland will remain economically crippled for as long as the Union continues. What Nicola Sturgeon is saying therefore, is that under her leadership, Scotland will be forever tied to the Union.

      James Che and others. Bartering is not such a bad idea. However, it would require all nations to barter their national surplus and learn to live properly within their means. That would solve the world’s problems at a stroke.

    337. James Che. says:

      J.o.e
      I would definitely love to keep the new currency simple and although it’s a modern world, I certainly object to online banking, where the system no longer recognises humans, just numbers.
      Where everything from NHS personal med records data, to what you print into your computer or phone is syphoned of to around the world for advertisers and large conglomerates to make money,
      How long does it take before these hacks intervene in your daily life.
      I know there are supposed to be ways to protect privacy, but those safeguards are not hack free if governments slide into totalitarian regimes, shared digital information is now sadly common place.
      What should And was protected, is no longer.
      We have phone calls from car insurances we have never dealt with, phone calls from people who offer funeral deals, phone calls from India, and basements somewhere in America,
      I know how to block them, and if they get through just put the phone down, but that is not the point, you’re information is travelling around the world
      Faster than you can blink , shared through sharing companies, one false move or a change in government policy and your finances could disappear just as rapidly.
      Until digital currency has better protection from governments themselves I have doubts,
      A good example of needing protection from governments is the way women’s pensions have been handled in the last 60 years, and I do not mean just the lack of informing the women,
      Women of pension age that had saved for years are now short of money and many not able to compete with younger or imported labour, are having sell their houses , cars, and belongings to avoid becoming homeless, the sad thing is this effects their husbands or partners too,
      Luckily for me, I created my own line of employment where there was not much outlay or competition as a cartoonist in my area.
      Do I trust governments not to interfere or manipulate a new digital currency with legislation and new laws?
      Old fashioned I may be, but wisdom comes with age.

    338. Derek says:

      James Che. says:
      15 June, 2021 at 11:23 pm
      Derick.
      Am not that quick on the uptake, you’ll have to explain that one to me, ?

      Nothing complicated; just that we can grow stuff – whether in greenhouses or front rooms or gardens – and then exchange it if need be.

    339. David Caledonia says:

      I never get funny phone calls from call centres or anywhere else, I never give my phone number or email out to just any old tart.
      A guy in currys wanted my phone number, I asked why, he said to me do you want this computer, I said no, stick it up your fecking arse for all I care you moron, he never got the sale, cause he’s a fecking nipple that could not sell a rotten apple to a starving man, such a stupid punt

    340. David Caledonia says:

      Crypto Currency, what a joke that is, years ago it was pyramid selling now its crypto selling.
      Piece of advice, when it has no financial basis and you cannot see its value, leave well alone, 40’000 dollars for something somewhere in the clouds, you need to be a financial virgin to take a chance on that kind of crap

    341. J.o.e says:

      @James Che

      I agree. I am absolutely no fan of digital currencies, especially when set up by the same cartel that brought us fiat currency.

      The reason im asking about crypto though is because the technology behind crypto is meant to be highly secure, decentralized and therefore able to enable privacy. The trouble is I’ve avoided it and don’t know very much about it.

      I was hoping there would be someone within the WOS people who would have a better idea.

      This leads to something important aside from simply building out greater autonomy for Scots (rather than waiting to win in an election) and that is a way for us to provide goods and services to each other outwith the current economy which its being dismantled in front of our eyes by our covid tyrants.

      I actually was thinking of something similar for the place where my wife is from – they have an abundance of land but the economy is absolutely terrible. With agriculture and the provision of food as a basis they could start to provide for themselves and create jobs for their other townsfolk.

      The real tyranny in my opinion is not the political or legal one, it is the deliberate malfunctioning of economy to keep us in a state bordering on desperation because people who can provide what they need for themselves and their neighbours don’t need central bankers or politicians

      I used to be happy simply to look after myself and mine and put out what I thought was helpful ideas for others but I can’t explain how absolutely fkn done I am with us being treated like this (not just Scots) and im tired of the lack of fight outside of showing up for a protest or voting a certain way. The mass crimes around covid have pushed me over the line. The financial and political establishment have always been waging a soft war against us but covid turned it into an all out war.

      I can’t lead any kind of movement but I can continue to push a suggestion that hopefully can gain traction – now is the time for Scots to begin marshalling our human talents and professions in the cause of providing some sort of defense for our people as a matter of urgency. Its past the time for placards and slogans or even politics

    342. David Caledonia says:

      Pharma companies are working on all types of stuff every day, they are researching and testing viruses all the time, so to say something is new is not quite true
      New to the market yes, but not new to researchers of viruses

    343. Dan says:

      It’ll be interesting to see how certain policies will be received in the various committees.

      https://twitter.com/BBCPhilipSim/status/1404847192771338245

      Explanation on committees roles.

      https://www.parliament.scot/chamber-and-committees/committees/about-committees

    344. Breeks says:

      Interesting development….

      https://twitter.com/joannaccherry/status/1404851999745753094

      When I say it’s interesting, what I mean is, it’s not Dorrian…

      If JC QC says it’s a good appointment, then that’ll do for me.

    345. Cenchos says:

      So, FM.

      You really have to condemn Hungary now, don’t you?

    346. Dan says:

      5min twitter vid from Led By Donkeys on UK’s recent handling of ra covid.

      https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1404822229939113989

      We’re just one week away from the summer solstice, so if UK can’t get to grips with handling this issue and lifting restrictions in the height of summer, then what can we expect as we move towards the fall and winter months.

      How did the India Delta variant impact on India.

      https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/

    347. Republicofscotland says:

      Breeks @ 9.22am.

      Bain’s appointment as the new Lord Advocate is neither here nor there, if she still remains the legal advisor to the Scottish government, as Wolffe was. The government and the head of the COPFS must become separate issues, for a sure as the sun rises in the morning and sets in the evening, conflicting issues will arise for Bain as they did for Wolffe, and as we know, the Scottish government can and have wielded the Lord Advocate and the COPFS to cover up and to advance their agenda.

      The Lord Advocate must not sit in on Scottish government cabinet meetings.

    348. Footsoldier says:

      While in lockdown, there are no marches for independence, or protesting outside Holyrood on SNP lack of action on independence.

    349. Republicofscotland says:

      Not content with meeting with the royals in secret to plan a way to make Prince William and his wife Kate more popular in Scotland, and ergo endear the royal in Scotland as well as undermine Scottish independence in the process, Gordon Brown who mislead Scots on the Vow, is now treading a dangerous path by claiming that Scottish independence will see 50 years of conflict wit England.

      Brown who is among the more well known treacherous b*stards of Scots, Sturgeon the Betrayer is the best known, is again trying to frighten folk as he did with pensions and a Scottish currency, that when we eventually do ditch this rancid onesided union that 50 years of war will ensue with England, which of course is absolute nonsense, Brown will say anything and everything to do his Buckingham Palace/Westminster’s bidding.

    350. Republicofscotland says:

      So the colonial police force known as Police Scotland are refusing to reveal how much it cost to try and remove two men from Kenmure street last month in a Home office snatch and grab operation in Glasgow’s South Side.

      Police Scotland said revealing the cost of the Home Office operation, paid for by Scottish taxpayers, would put the public at risk of crimes being committed and could stop offenders being arrested. Eh? me neither.

      Of course Scotland’s colonial police force has history of errors, Sheku Bayou, John Yuill, Lamara Bell, Allan Bryant to name but a few, and of course of late Craig Murray, Alex Salmond, Mark Hirst, Stu Campbell and David Llewellyn.

    351. Gordon Currie says:

      Joe and Mist001

      Crypto volatility is due to crypto being a nascent industry, where few of the currencies offer real-world utility (this is known as use-cases) at present. The other problem is lack of regulatory clarity, which is currently the subject of a massive law suit between the SEC and Ripple over the coin XRP (Which incidentally isn’t even owned by Ripple!). There are “stablecoins” such as USDC and Tether, that are linked to the US$ at 1:1. These would be used in digital financial services

      In terms of CBDCs, XRP is already in widespread use in so-called liquidity corridors between Japan, Singapore, Switzerland and the UK. Volatility isn’t an issue for cross border payments (XRP’s main target audience), as it’s not held but bought-and-sold to facilitate the payment, and these payments take an average of three SECONDS.

      This technology will transform global finance as it can be user for anycurrency-to-anyothercurrency. At a micro level, think of a Fillipino maid sending $50 home, at a cost of 1c, and it taking 3 seconds, saving her family around $3.This will greatly enhance the purchasing power of the poorest in Society (and take $billions out of Swift and the banks)

      The other massive possibility of a CBDC is the ability to transfer funds directly to a digital wallet, bypassing the traditional banking system altogether. Think about QE – £500 billion+ disseminated via the banking system, and none of it got to the people. Compare that to Roosevelt’s new deal, where he gave the $$ directly to the people. A CBDC could pay stimulus money directly into people’s digital wallet on their smartphone.

      As far as Don’s views of the strength of a Scottish pound go, I touched on the idea earlier that CBDCs will go back to a Gold standard type of system, where currencies are underpinned by the country’s resources and not by financial legerdemain. Here’s an interesting statistic, courtesy of the Scotsman of all papers, regarding the UKs “Natural Capital”; spoiler, Scotland provides 34% of it!

      https://www.scotsman.com/news/environment/value-all-scotlands-natural-resources-revealed-549256

      We will be an extremely wealthy country, and the World will look askance at Westminster’s historic rape of our resources

    352. Republicofscotland says:

      A landmark human rights case/appeal will affect the whole of Europe one way or the other, as jailed Catalan leader Jordi Cuixart’s appeal comes before The European Court of Human Rights.

      Cuixarts is serving a nine year sentence for his role in enabling a indyref in Catalonia in 2017, his preposterous conviction by the Spanish courts is one of sedition. As we know the Catalan folk tried to hold a peaceful indyref but they were beaten, shot and arrested for doing so by Spanish forces who later received medals for what can only be described, as brutality against the Catalan folk.

      If Cuixart is successful the whole human rights system throughout Europe could undergo a huge shake up. Like Craig Murray and Julian Assange, Jordi Cuixart’s lawyers listed some of the his rights which had been violated including the right to a fair trial and defence, the principal of legality and arbitrary detention.

    353. Republicofscotland says:

      Westminster useful idiot Daddy Bear waffling on (in the National) about how bad North Korea is a nasty regime and that its ran by a despot. No mention from Daddy Bear about the multitude of despotic regimes in the Middle East that the UK supports, such as Oman, UAE, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain etc.

      Of course Daddy Bear doesn’t really want to draw attention to those awful tyrannies, it doesn’t suit his Westminster master’s agenda.

    354. Don says:

      Republicofscotland 16 June, 2021 at 11:02 am

      “Westminster useful idiot Daddy Bear waffling on (in the National) about how bad North Korea is a nasty regime and that its ran by a despot. No mention from Daddy Bear about the multitude of despotic regimes in the Middle East that the UK supports, such as Oman, UAE, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain etc.

      Of course Daddy Bear doesn’t really want to draw attention to those awful tyrannies, it doesn’t suit his Westminster master’s agenda.”

      North Korea is the Nuclear Armed none of those other countries are Nuclear armed. North Korea built its Nuclear Arsemal while its on population lives in virtual poverty. North Korea has also executed people by driving Tanks over them. Well done for being North Korea’s own Useful Idiot by just trying to invent your own grievances against Westminster.

      https://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/29/asia/kim-jong-un-executions/index.html

      https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/north-korea-defector-anti-aircraft-guns-execution-kim-jong-un-killed-sex-slaves-pyongyang-porn-film-video-a7959851.html

    355. Don says:

      Gordon Currie 16 June, 2021 at 10:51 am

      “We will be an extremely wealthy country, and the World will look askance at Westminster’s historic rape of our resources”

      FFS Sake Gordon Your clearly one of the SNP’s previously deliberately deceived “Useful Idiots” then ?
      Andrew Wilson who wrote the SNP’s own Growth Comission paper has now openly admitted Scotland would be much much poorer , do try to catch up at the back and get properly educated huh ?
      https://notesonnationalism.substack.com/p/are-we-supposed-to-take-this-seriously

      https://ifs.org.uk/publications/15418

    356. Don says:

      Breeks 16 June, 2021 at 9:22 am
      “Interesting development….
      https://twitter.com/joannaccherry/status/1404851999745753094

      When I say it’s interesting, what I mean is, it’s not Dorrian…
      If JC QC says it’s a good appointment, then that’ll do for me.”

      And the same people said Leslie Evans was a good appointment and you swallowed that one too.

    357. Don says:

      @J.o.e 15 June, 2021 at 11:46 pm
      @Don
      “lol. You are fucking stupid”

      Says J.o.e. ..confirmed Conspiracy theorist and Anti Vaxxer
      nuff said huh ?

    358. Don says:

      @Dave Somerville 15 June, 2021 at 11:42 pm

      “On 18th September 2014, Scottish Farmers were first in the queue to vote to stay in this stinkin Union.
      Well all I can say to our down trodden farmers is… Away and take a good fuck tae yersels, ya shower a Unionist Bastards”

      What utter bastards WM are for paying for 20% of Scotlands own Public Services that an Indy Scotland could not afford without raising Taxes by 20% across the board ? Haven’t you heard the SNP’s own favourite Economist Andrew Wilson now telling all the SNP’s previous “Useful Idiots” the tough truth at last then ?
      https://notesonnationalism.substack.com/p/are-we-supposed-to-take-this-seriously

      https://ifs.org.uk/publications/15418

      You made yer bed, so you can lie in it.

    359. Gordon Currie says:

      Don

      The only idiot around here is you, tell me how what I’m saying regarding CBDCs and an end to FIAT banking relates in any way to clown Wilson’s report, which postulates a continuation of a totally failed system where banking has primacy.

      By the way I’m no fan of Sturgeon, she was happy for that mince to be her policy knowing no one with any understanding of the failures of the current financial system would buy into it, keeping her free-from-independence dream alive and kicking.

      You won’t “catch up at the back”, you haven’t even entered the classroom! There’s a lovely cap with a large “D” on it awaiting your arrival.

    360. robbo says:

      Sadiq Khan reiterated a plea made earlier this month for the Tartan Army to stay at home for the match on Friday evening unless they have a safe place to watch the game.

      Nae chance Sadiq. We’re only returning the favour when you crossed our borders.

      Tuff titty

    361. Don says:

      robbo 16 June, 2021 at 11:54 am

      “Sadiq Khan reiterated a plea made earlier this month for the Tartan Army to stay at home for the match on Friday evening unless they have a safe place to watch the game.
      Nae chance Sadiq. We’re only returning the favour when you crossed our borders.”

      https://bit.ly/3iLjvfG

      https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mark-woolhouse-denies-sturgeons-claim-covid-19-was-reseeded-into-scotland-from-other-parts-of-uk-qn9bqv3m9?fbclid=IwAR2OHQx_w8Fn94Iof3PmZySMCsyjT5XpRjA64ZxAQOO2xaumhVC4XB-RuKA

      https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/01/31/how-covid-mutating-and-futility-closing-borders-column/4290527001/

    362. Don says:

      “I do love doing pointless things like this, he says.”

      I bet he goes on marches normally too.
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-57485487

    363. Don says:

      Gordon Currie 16 June, 2021 at 11:44 am

      “The only idiot around here is you, tell me how what I’m saying regarding CBDCs and an end to FIAT banking relates in any way to clown Wilson’s report, which postulates a continuation of a totally failed system where banking has primacy.

      By the way I’m no fan of Sturgeon, she was happy for that mince to be her policy knowing no one with any understanding of the failures of the current financial system would buy into it, keeping her free-from-independence dream alive and kicking.”

      Poor Gordon another one of the “when real economcs don’t work for me i’ll just make up my own to bullshit people with gang”

      https://ifs.org.uk/publications/15418

      https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2021/02/04/indyref2-scottish-independence-would-be-2-3-times-more-costly-than-that-of-brexit-and-rejoining-the-eu-wouldnt-make-up-the-difference/

    364. Lochside says:

      Don..what are you on here for? I could be kind and think you are a deluded dolt who believes that Scotland is truly poor, stupid and too wee to function as a normal self governing State. Well you are entitled to believe this. You can join all the ragged arse tories and orange bigots who want Scotland to remain being run by a corrupt cabal of upper class crooks in another country with a Ruritarian royal family of Germans at the top of the stinking cake of class inequality that embodies it. You can continue to watch Scotland draining of its lifeblood of youth and talent due to a deliberate policy of three centuries of colonial rule by that country and its treacherous adherents such as you ( that is if you are indeed a North Briton from above the Tweed and Solway).

      However, on the other hand, you might just be part of the massive 77 brigade onslaught on Scotland’s frail Independence supporting blogs. Your spelling skills have increased considerably, causing me to guess that there are more than one DON.
      Therefore, is it actually a case of ‘I am Don’…’I am Legion, for we are many’?

    365. Dan says:

      Retro link bookmarked with various following on informative posts for when Groundhog Day Don regurgitates that ol’ LSE link…

      https://wingsoverscotland.com/hostile-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-2661359

      Don, you never told us your qualifications so that us plebs can consider whether your opinion is of more worth than successful global investor Jim Rogers, who you stated doesn’t have a clue.

    366. Breeks says:

      Lochside says:
      16 June, 2021 at 12:35 pm
      Don..what are you on here for?…

      Trying to think if there’s ever been a troll so tedious he’s actually turned into a computer virus.

    367. cirsium says:

      @Dan, 9.50

      talking of India, these two articles show the effect of a different approach to dealing with infection by SARS-CoV-2
      https://www.thedesertreview.com/news/national/ivermectin-obliterates-97-percent-of-delhi-cases/article_6a3be6b2-c31f-11eb-836d-2722d2325a08.html
      https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indian-bar-association-sues-who-scientist-over-ivermectin/article_f90599f8-c7be-11eb-a8dc-0b3cbb3b4dfa.html

      It is unfortunate that the First Minister keeps following the advice of the UK government and its “failed health policy of ignoring Ivermectin and early outpatient treatment”.

      Has everyone read this letter from Dr Tess Laurie to the MHRA with its conclusion “The MHRA now has more than enough evidence on the Yellow Card system to declare the COVID-19 vaccines unsafe for use in humans.” ? https://b3d2650e-e929-4448-a527-4eeb59304c7f.filesusr.com/ugd/593c4f_b2acdef3774b4e9ca06e9fae526fd5cd.pdf

    368. Republicofscotland says:

      “Lochside says:
      16 June, 2021 at 12:35 pm
      Don..what are you on here for?”

      Lochside, he/she is here because Brigadier Alexander Turner wants him to be here, Wings has never been more weakened than it is right now so the Denison mob see an opening to counter this blogs pro-indy commentors.

    369. Republicofscotland says:

      So its come to light that the PSNI has trained Omani “police” officers in the brutal oppressive regime that Westminster backs, and GCHQ has three secret listening posts in the country to intercept communications in the region and further afield, and in return for turning a blind eye to the brutal suppression of the Omani people Westminster is allowed to carry out unknown activities in the despotic regime.

      The PSNI provided the training to the Omani “police” late last year on how to handle protestors, after all the PSNI under another name (RUC) has years of experience in brutal suppression of citizens.

      Oman which Westminster has cosied up to, is such a tryannical country that its an offence to insult the Sultan, (its absolute ruler) which could lead to imprisonment or even death.

      What does this say about Westminster, why would any country want to be in a union with this lot.

    370. Stuart MacKay says:

      Lochside,

      If you read through “The Gospel of Don” there are indeed style and grammar differences that would indicate the work of multiple personalities. It’s just a question of whether they are on the same team or simply in the same body.

    371. Hugh Jarse says:

      Bargain basement troll Don looks like he’s got a BOGOF going.
      All cheap shite.

    372. Pixywine says:

      Government has extended their emergency remit from covid 19 to covid in general. So that will mean the common cold?.

    373. Sensible Dave says:

      RoS 1.55

      Err, You have it wrong I’m afraid. As Major General of the 77th I can confirm that “Don” isn’t, and never has been, a member of the Regiment.

      I believe he did apply once but at the interview he wore brown shoes. He’s therefore definitely the not right sort.

      In reference to your broader point, again I must inform you that you are mistaken. The 77th is actually stood down (apart from the odd sorty on line here and there). The mission was completed after the EU referendum and we have been withdrawing ever since. Most recently, our “Mr Fish” created a diversion to get himself back to barracks.

      As the old saying goes, never interrupt the enemy when they are making mistakes – and the indybods have been cocking it up, all on their own, for a good few years now.

      Toodle pip.

    374. J.o.e says:

      @Sensible Dave

      So you missed the televised announcement last year that 77th would be working to tackle ‘misinformation’ online regarding covid?

    375. Captain Yossarian says:

      GB News, whether you like them or not, is getting a far bigger audience than Sky News is at the moment. In the meantime, all we get is more tiresome guff from our DFM: @JohnSwinney “has asked attendees to use #VirtualNEF21 as an opportunity to consider how business and government can work more effectively together for a fair, inclusive and sustainable recovery.”

      All his government can do is offer free dental treatment while 8 or 900,000 unused vaccination doses remain in cold storage because we cannot organize ourselves to get them properly distributed. Hence, a variant of Covid re-establishes itself needlessly among the population. Should the DFM not be concerning himself with this, instead? Is that not his one and only job nowadays?

      There are probably no more than 20% of the electorate that are died in the wool Nationalists and 20% Unionist; the rest are there to be convinced.

      I cannot see the Nationalists convincing anyone with this derisory showing. Their decline will continue.

    376. Breastplate says:

      Captain Yossarian,
      “ I cannot see the Nationalists convincing anyone with this derisory showing. Their decline will continue.”

      I think you’re right Captain, those British Nationalists are turning people off the Union.

    377. JimuckMac says:

      Captain, great news about the 900,000 unused jabs of poison. Are the people now becoming wise to this agenda?

    378. Dan says:

      C’mon Captn Yossa. If you’re going to have a go at the Scottish Administrators of Devolved Powers allowing a new variant of the virus to re-establish itself, then you should at least acknowledge that same said Administration doesn’t have powers over immigration which are held at Westminster.

      See my earlier post for Led By Donkeys 5 min vid highlighting Westminster’s shoddy handling of control which facilitated the new variant getting to our shores in the first place.

      https://wingsoverscotland.com/faith-over-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-2664793

      As you are supposed to be an educated engineer that regularly brings up the subject of fluid dynamics occurring below a certain school, I would hope you would grasp that the flow of people from around the planet arriving in the UK without proper testing and quarantining policies in place is the root cause of the issue of which you are making hay.

    379. Captain Yossarian says:

      Breastplate says:
      16 June, 2021 at 4:01 pm

      I’m one of the 60% in the middle, Breastplate. I voted Labour but already wish I hadn’t.

      GB News is just like ‘Don’ who posts up here regularly. I don’t agree with him much of the time, but he puts forward evidence which support his point of view and GB News is the same.

      Have a think about the missing 8 or 900,000 vaccines. Pretty serious if I’m right, isn’t it?

    380. James Che. says:

      Derick. Thanks for the explanation,
      Indeed more and more people whom have gardens that used to be full of grey concrete and lock block are beginning to turn a little more green, even if is a postage stamp size lawns and a few flowers,
      Being attached to a small area through Covid and not being in the office has bought about small changes in the way that may not have happened prior to the pandemic.
      We have been growing our own veg and fruit in a small space for a while now, sometimes with success an not so much other times, having to learn what suit our soil type, and not being to far away from the sea.

    381. Breastplate says:

      Captain Yossarian,
      Nationalists criticising other nationalists for being nationalists makes me chuckle every time.
      The sense of self awareness is mind boggling.

      Regarding the unused vaccines, if you had been paying attention to other things rather than the chances of a school collapsing into a sinkhole, you would already know what I thought of that.

    382. Dan says:

      @ James Che

      If you’re near the coast then get some washed up seaweed collected to help keep the soil rich in nutrients. Top dress the beds with it, and it also acts as a protective mulch as it slowly breaks down.
      And if there are sheep roaming free in the area then collect a bag or twa of sheep poop while you’re at it. It makes a good nutrient rich tea (for the plants).
      You may already know all this but many folk often don’t realise the amount of organic matter that is required to be added to help keep their soil fertile.

      Soil is finally warming up now and my 200 beetroot seeds germinated into seedlings. Bonus is I found another couple of big jars I’d pickled last year so easily got enough to see me through till I can start munching some of this year’s beetroot leaves and stalks before harvesting the crop.
      Decided to try growing carrots in buckets this year so I can put them on a table to get them elevated above the level the carrotfly hover about at. The seeds can take a while to germinate but they sprouted in under two weeks.
      Just have to wait and see how long a growing season we get after a slowish start.

    383. Captain Yossarian says:

      Breastplate says:
      16 June, 2021 at 4:01 pm

      They’re closing-in on a solution to the school that’s sinking and so, every now and again, the Scottish Government get something right, don’t they. The DFM will explain everything.

    384. wull says:

      Dorothy Bain IS a good appointment. The Joanna Cherry endorsement clearly indicates this. There is no reason at all to doubt what JC says about Dorothy Bain’s integrity.

      The Lord Advocate is a very old institution in Scotland / Scots Law. There have been moments when those holding the office have behaved impeccably, and very much in the rue interests of the Scottish people. There have also been other more dubious moments, perhaps less frequent, when that has not been the case.

      I think this might be a good moment for us, as we move out of the era of the dubious Wolffe and into that of the honourable Bain. Even if she does have to sit in Sturgeon’s cabinet, I am pretty sure Dorothy Bain will not simply be doing Nicola’s bidding. She will know very well how to distinguish upholding the law, which will be her business and duty, from becoming the tool of political manipulation.

      If she is the Dorothy Bain whom I think she is, she will serve the law and therefore justice every time. She will not get herself entangled in anybody else’s web of political deceit, deception and unjust prosecutions, whoever that person might be and whatever position that person might hold. So long as the appointment is indeed made, this looks to me like a very good day for all of us, and for Scotland, to which and to whom Dorothy Bain has been seriously committed all her life.

    385. twathater says:

      You can always tell the unionists , when they think independence is in a weakened state due to the betrayer sturgeon’s ineptitude or cowardice they are like flies roon shite looking for a meal , but unfortunately for them their pronouncements and false info is straight out of the better the gither playbook and naebody listens tae thir pish onymair

      So D and D away and dae something useful like polishing the shite aff yer boots

    386. oneliner says:

      @Captain Yossarian

      I think you conflate the decline of SNP membership with the desire for independence.

      When you remove all the wrapping, the increase in support for self-determination works out at approx 1% per annum. ie 45% in 2014 ~ c52% in 2021. This is due to the mucher higher approval rate (75%) in the under 25s.

    387. Sensibledave says:

      Joe 3.37

      You are a very confused and gullible person. It was misinformation when we announced what we were doing about misinformation.

      You really haven’t got the hang of how we work have you.

      Read this thread or any of the previous. The natives are fighting with each other. Mission accomplished!

    388. James Che. says:

      J.o.e.
      Ahhh. 🙂

    389. James Che. says:

      Sensible Dave,
      Actually if you read the previous threads you will find it’s not necessarily the local natives fighting each other, but those from further away kind of natives.
      The other side of the coin has to be spoken about to for the sake of a balanced conversation,
      Most of those that used to comment here no longer do, they have pastures new,
      So we are left with a few originals and the rest is like a bag of liquorice allsorts
      Or dolly mixtures,

    390. James Che. says:

      Dan.
      cheers for the advice will try some seaweed, I had forgotten that my dad used to do that when we were kids, and the hens used to love eating the the tiny shrimps and beasties on the seaweed,

      My father used the hen manure around the base of fruit trees and bushes, but not in veg,
      Our beetroot is a disaster, but the carrots look promising, they are about two inches high, tattles well up and peas two feet high, chives and spring onions good also,
      We miss our big garden as we were able to stagger crops better. And where one maybe failed later crops could be more successful,
      We are fighting the odds here, Dan, we have sea spray, clay soil underplayed by granite with overhead tree shading with tree roots around edge of garden, so mainly having to used raised beds.
      But you have to try, lol.

    391. MaggieC says:

      I’ve just received this in an email from Martin Keatings ,

      Update on Peoples Action on Section 30

      “Just to let you all know that a motion has been filed by the Lord Advocate to find me personally liable for the costs of the peoples action. The UK Government has not filed any such motion. So this is the outgoing Lord Advocate, a member of the Scottish Government who spent the entirety of this process (and was only invited in for any interest the Scottish Parliament may have in the case) blocking, abusing the process, delaying and obfuscating to deliberately run up costs, now applying to the court to hold me personally liable.

      This is the cost of asking a perfectly reasonable legal question in Scotland in 2021, that politicians have been unable to answer for 22 years. Costs which even the Lord President, Scotlands highest judge said in the last paragraph of his ruling (which stunned everyone) were unacceptably high.
      So yeah. “

    392. James Che. says:

      See Micheal Gove and Alistar Jack planning a new union,

    393. Dorothy Devine says:

      Martin Keating,

      View in browser

      Update on Peoples Action on Section 30

      Just to let you all know that a motion has been filed by the Lord Advocate to find me personally liable for the costs of the peoples action. The UK Government has not filed any such motion. So this is the outgoing Lord Advocate, a member of the Scottish Government who spent the entirety of this process (and was only invited in for any interest the Scottish Parliament may have in the case) blocking, abusing the process, delaying and obfuscating to deliberately run up costs, now applying to the court to hold me personally liable.
      This is the cost of asking a perfectly reasonable legal question in Scotland in 2021, that politicians have been unable to answer for 22 years. Costs which even the Lord President, Scotlands highest judge said in the last paragraph of his ruling (which stunned everyone) were unacceptably high.
      So yeah.’

      Outrageous that we have a Lord Advocate that would behave in such a manner.

      Like the man said ,’without integrity and honour, having everything means nothing”

    394. Don says:

      Dan 16 June, 2021 at 4:08 pm

      “See my earlier post for Led By Donkeys 5 min vid highlighting Westminster’s shoddy handling of control which facilitated the new variant getting to our shores in the first place.” You beleive it though simply because it keeps your confirmation bias happy.

      Its extremely funny that you think a propganda video made by a politcally motivated unit is telling you the truth. 🙂

      For a minute put your Brain into first gear and ask yourself how anyone could stop a virus arriving in the UK. This is a country only 22 miles from France where in Summer people are smuggling themselves across from France in small boats , do you think they stop to take a virus test before doing so ? This is also a country where last year someone had to call 999 to get help when His Jetski ran out of fuel when he ws using it to smuggle drugs into the UK from the Netherland.This is a country where the Irish puppy trade uses boats to bring puppies from Eire and NI to Scotland to sell, do all these people get Covid tests before travelling to other countries to bring their ill gotten gains back here ? Can you work out an obvious problem now in being able to stop any virus from arriving in the UK ?

      Australia supposedly closed its borders in March 2020 and was supposed to be Virus free but the State of Victoria went back into lockdown last month so how do you think that happened ?
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-57325513

      China also closed its Borders 28th March 2020 and also anounced some time ago it was now virus free yet right now again it has Lockdowns https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/09/world/asia/china-covid-lockdown.html

      Being able to realictly close borders and keep a virus out is a political wish that is simply not practically possible unless your a tiny Island thosands of KM from anyone else with absolutely no trade or contact at all with others but that is simply impossible in major nations in reality as the factual evidence shows

    395. Don says:

      MaggieC 16 June, 2021 at 7:51

      “This is the cost of asking a perfectly reasonable legal question in Scotland in 2021, that politicians have been unable to answer for 22 years.”

      The rather obvious answer to this one is that people have been telling you all to death what the legal answer to the question was but time after time you all just choose to ignore the law. The problem here lies with despictable SNP Politicians who also know the existing law properly just playing the Nationalist movement for fools for polical gain then along comes a gullible fool like Martin Keating that actually beleives what the SNP feeds to him and makes his own stupid decison to try and be a hero and try to test in court , doing that was his own choice , perhaps the likes of now retired Mike Russell who has been one of the main players winding the likes of Martin Keating up on this issue will apoligise , tell the truth and help fund the forthcoming legal bill ? I think we all know that is very likely not at all going to happen is it ?

    396. Republicofscotland says:

      As the bully boys club Nato and the Great Satan the USA, (the former which works for the highest bidder, usually a global corporation) declared Beijing a security challenge, and Biden’s obedient puppet Johnson joins in on the attacks aimed at China.

      The UK government has authorised the sale of £2.6-billion worth of military and civilian equipment with potential military use to China in the past three years. £53-million pounds worth classified purely as “military” went to China over the three years 2018-20, including components for combat aircraft and military support aircraft.

      The hypocrisy, and stench emanating for the bucket of sewage known as Westminster is at times gut wrenching, why would any country wish to be or remain in a union with this lot is beyond me.

    397. Who chooses the Lord Advocate,

      that could be quite telling in figuring out her `integrity`.

    398. Breastplate says:

      Don,
      I hate to break it to you, but this country is not 22 miles from France, obviously from reading your posts you have trouble with numbers so it is understandable that a feeble brained person like you will get simple things wrong so I’m trying to be helpful.

      So just for you, this country is Scotland and we’re a little bit further away than 22 miles.
      Tit.

    399. Benhope says:

      I understand that there is going to be a full public inquiry into the Cameron House fire at Loch Lomond a couple of years ago.

      The fire service have already established that the fire was started by a hotel employee placing hot cinders in a cupboard.

      This inquiry will cost several million pounds and no doubt enrich a few lawyers and QCs. What could be the possible reason for such an inquiry? Again us taxpayer mugs will foot the bill. Can anyone come up with a justifiable reason for such an inquiry?

      Can I suggest the final report of the inquiry will state that hot cinders should be placed in a fire-proof container. There, have I saved the taxpayer £5 million.

    400. Gordon Currie says:

      Excellent dismemberment of our illustrious MPs:

      https://jaggy.blog/2021/06/16/gove-set-to-deliver-the-snp-from-evel/

      Where on earth is our “Deus ex machina” gonna come from?

    401. Effigy says:

      From Martin Keatings

      Update on Peoples Action on Section 30

      Just to let you all know that a motion has been filed by the Lord Advocate to find me personally liable for the costs of the peoples action. The UK Government has not filed any such motion. So this is the outgoing Lord Advocate, a member of the Scottish Government who spent the entirety of this process (and was only invited in for any interest the Scottish Parliament may have in the case) blocking, abusing the process, delaying and obfuscating to deliberately run up costs, now applying to the court to hold me personally liable.
      This is the cost of asking a perfectly reasonable legal question in Scotland in 2021, that politicians have been unable to answer for 22 years. Costs which even the Lord President, Scotlands highest judge said in the last paragraph of his ruling (which stunned everyone) were unacceptably high.
      So yeah.

      Lord Advocate and 2 governments as bent as the police and a Shepherd’s crook.

    402. Mc Duff says:

      Effigy
      Amen to that.

    403. Alfred says:

      Why did the Scottish Gov give Rangers Football club an interest free loan with a 20 year pay back period – that’s not what our taxes are for.

      How many other loans like this are there?

    404. Captain Yossarian says:

      “Dorothy was the first woman to be appointed as Principal Advocate Depute and has conducted many complex and high-profile criminal prosecutions and appeals.” – Nicola Sturgeon

      No need to worry about complexity now, Dorothy. John Swinney will hand you a box of black redactor pens. It will be like going back to nursery school. Holyrood’s like that, you know.

    405. Breeks says:

      Effigy says:
      16 June, 2021 at 10:30 pm
      From Martin Keatings

      Update on Peoples Action on Section 30…… Scotland’s highest judge said in the last paragraph of his ruling (which stunned everyone) were unacceptably high.
      So yeah.

      Lord Advocate and 2 governments as bent as the police and a Shepherd’s crook.

      Agreed.

      But there’s another issue slipping under the radar… Wolffe was the Lord Advocate ostensibly fighting Scotland’s corner in the Constitutional issues surrounding Brexit, and suddenly the whole saga of Scotland’s unconstitutional subjugation stinks even more than it did before, if that was even possible.

      No wonder Scotland gets trussed up in knots when Westminster and closet Unionists hold both ends of the rope, and keep a straight face when they claim to be acting in Scotland’s best interests.

      I am truly scunnered with this nest of charlatans stabbing Scotland’s interests in the back, and the onslaught against pro Independence activists who should instead be deluged with praise for trying to do what’s right by Scotland.

      I pity the SNP 1&2 wretches when the mist finally clears from their goggles. Talk about useful idiots. None of this would have happened but for them, and Sturgeon’s “secret strategy” would have been robustly tested and found wanting from the outset. We’d have seen the rogue in her way back in 2015/16 before the incalculable damage she has done.

      The signs were all there, but too many people were too far up their own arse holes to notice, or to listen to those who did notice. Even now, they’re merrily taking a hatchet to ALBA, without realising it’s their own fking lifeboat they’re scuttling.

    406. Luigi says:

      Many people voting SNP 1+2 were fully aware of what was going on IMO. Sure many were ignorant but not all were some that seriously considered ALBA never
      took the opportunity. Why did they stick to habit? Well with all the Brexit and Covid mess, perhaps they just didn’t feel ready to make the leap with ALBA. That’s not to say they won’t do so next time.

    407. Robert Hughes says:

      Breeks

      Is that the * secret strategy * so secret it exists purely in a Super-Position at the quantum level and will only be known when the Wave Function collapses – the Wave Function being when Sturgeon has obliterated any possibility of Independence actually occurring ?

    408. Cenchos says:

      ‘Drag School’ for Primary school children? Really?

      https://archive.ph/9eGpc

    409. Dorothy Devine says:

      Cenchos , parents need to be made aware of all these ‘alternative ‘goings on and step up to the mark. The only folk that will be listened to are angry parents and they need to become a big body – no use one or two as they will be dismissed as bigots /terfs /whatever . They need to be en masse.

    410. James Che. says:

      If a new union is to come into being.
      Will that cause the old treaty articles to become void if meddled with by these two,

    411. Republicofscotland says:

      So there’s a shortage of catering workers in the Highlands, and many food take away outlets, and cafe/restaurants are screaming out for staff, but there’s no accommodation for staff to be housed in, nor is there any social or affordable housing for local residents.

      There was a chance to change the way land is valued, but the SNP voted with the Tories to defeat Andy Wightman’s amendment on it. Homes that do come available are quickly snapped up by investors or faceless folk from abroad.

      Oh the SNP will say that they’re going to build X-amount of homes here and there, but the again the SNP have said a lot of things in recent years that have been quietly kicked into the long grass.

    412. Republicofscotland says:

      Things must be bad on the indy-front when National newspaper columnist David Pratt is worried over the lack of movement by the SNP on pushing for and holding an indyref, for Pratt usually defends Sturgeon the Betrayers position.

      Platt makes an excellent point when he says that the pandemic hasn’t slowed down or stopped Johnson and the Tories one little bit in doing what they want to do, from Aussie deals to G7 meetings to turning the screw on Scotland in a political fashion Johnson hasn’t skipped a beat on Covid, whilst Sturgeon the Betrayer has dropped all the language to do with independence that she used before May’s election, and quickly replaced it with the words Covid and recovery.

      Over the next couple of years the penny will drop with many indy-supporters who thought that Sturgeon the Betrayer would hold an indyref, that she has no intentions of doing so, of course they’ll still be some who believe that she will, those folk will never see the light. By then I can only hope the real party for Scottish independence the Alba party, are in a position to become our next Scottish government.

    413. robertknight says:

      SNP does f**k all except clear the way for gender-woo-woo zealots whilst simultaneously jailing, smearing, gaslighting and bankrupting pro-Indy politicians, journos, bloggers and citizens.

      About time Saint Nicola’s devotees woke up.

    414. Jack Murphy says:

      TODAY. BBC Scotland on-line:

      “The SNP has appointed a new treasurer after the previous holder of the post quit amid a row over party finances.

      Colin Beattie has returned to the role after Douglas Chapman resigned claiming he had not been given the information he needed to do the job.

      Mr Beattie had been the treasurer since 2004, but was defeated by Mr Chapman in a vote of members last December.

      It comes amid controversy over hundreds of thousands of pounds that was donated by independence supporters…”

    415. Robert Hughes says:

      Cenchos says:
      17 June, 2021 at 9:40 am

      ” Drag School’ for Primary school children? Really? ” .

      Yes , really . This is a really , really , really vital part of children’s education , don’t you know ?

      How would Scotland’s tradition of turning-out excellent engineers , architects , inventors etc have been possible had they not had an early , solid grounding in what lipstick men pretending to be women use ?

      As Dorothy said – it’s going to take a coming together of aware , concerned parents forming a unified front to stop this attempted take-over of childrens minds and sensibilities to eject this mindrot a restore rationality of our education system

    416. Lochside says:

      Cenchos says:
      17 June, 2021 at 9:40 am
      ‘Drag School’ for Primary school children? Really?

      https://archive.ph/9eGpc

      This is beyond the bounds of any sanity. Wee kids being encouraged to get into drag?? Surely there should be an enquiry into this?
      I note the ‘partners’ in this ‘enterprise’… Carlisle Council(?), English Heritage(?), D+G Council amongst many others, plus the ‘Burns Night’ of whom I know something only because of their attempt to destroy Burns’ reputation on a w.w.w. ‘show’

      The latter put on a travesty of a ‘tribute’ streaming on Burns night. It consisted of a screaming drag queen running about Dumfries, combined with ongoing ignorant and uninformed commentary by the ‘comedienne’ Janey Godley..Sturgeon’s favourite. I tuned in because I heard BBC Scotland punting it . Frankly it was an insult to Burns and to Dumfries. It ended with a Drag show in the Speigle Tent. It looked like something out of a Freak Circus.

      These sinister opinion shaping perverts must be revealed to the daylight and the public organisations who pay our money should be held to account. Who are they? and how do they get away with this disgusting brain washing of our children? The financial input of an English council and Heritage into a Scottish event of this nature is staggering.

      I truly do wonder who is behind these organisations and coordinating this type of ‘fun event’.?

    417. Stuart MacKay says:

      If we all wanted to be “correct” then men dressing up as women should be held with the same contempt as whites dressing up as people of colour.

      I’d be very interested in hearing the logic as to why this is the apparent exception.

    418. Ian Brotherhood says:

      @Lochside –

      ‘Surely there should be an enquiry into this?’

      Yeah, but in the meantime, as Dorothy alluded to earlier, parents have to take action.

      The weans’ education has been all-but wrecked, so parents would be entirely within their rights to stage a general ‘strike’ and withdraw the children from school indefinitely.

      It fuckin reeks. Between the buildings falling down and deviants being given access, these places are not ‘safe’.

    419. Breeks says:

      Republicofscotland says:
      17 June, 2021 at 10:41 am
      Things must be bad on the indy-front when National newspaper columnist David Pratt is worried over the lack of movement by the SNP on pushing for and holding an indyref, for Pratt usually defends Sturgeon the Betrayers position…

      Aye. The Article says deafening silence on the Indy front since the Election.

      I take it he means the 2016 Election.

    420. J.o.e says:

      ‘I truly do wonder who is behind these organisations and coordinating this type of ‘fun event’.?’

      I would bet a significant sum that if anyone was to show you where this originates that you would consider the person evil and probably a danger to society and who should probably be silenced on the matter. Not joking.

    421. J.o.e says:

      Just wanted to add to my above point – the same can be said for those pushing mass 3rd world immigration.

    422. James Che. says:

      It’s not just parents that will have to step up to the board,
      We are all going to have to do this on many subjects if Scotland is to survive beyond its inhouse crazy politicians looking after their pockets and own purse strings. Changing all people’s life’s with the hate crime bill catapulting us backwards to the 18th century with a modern warped twist on gender issues.
      I think sooner or later we are or should be chosen a new government from scratch,
      What presently exist in Holyrude is completely the wrong makeup and to the brim with bad energy from top to bottom,
      Alba talks about starting from scratch, I am thinking along the same lines,
      Perhaps even going further and placing the Scottish Parliament nearer central Scotland instead of so close to the border.
      Can Anybody confirm if Rannoch is more central ?

    423. A lot of people see the drag act as similar to the black and white minstrels,

      in both cases white men dress up to accentuate age old racist and mysogynist stereotypes and all for `light entertainment`,

      even the BBC eventually came to see the black and white minstrels as an abomination,

      hopefully, sooner rather than later, they will come to the same conclussion about drag acts.

    424. J.o.e says:

      ‘even the BBC eventually came to see the black and white minstrels as an abomination’

      The BBC is now one of the most heavily cultural marxist (woke, in many circles) propaganda organisations on Earth.

      Why would it be a surprise?

    425. James Che. says:

      Scot Finlayson
      Mmmm bbc seems to have nothing but bad taste,
      Just think of jimmy savelle and associates,

    426. James Che. says:

      follow the money ,the funding, and then the connections,

    427. Luigi says:

      It’s only a matter of time before the indy marches start up again.I wonder how many rampant “Where’s our Money, Nicola?” placards start appearing among the saltires. 🙂

    428. Dan says:

      Thread on status of EU citizens in the UK after the deadline of 30 June.

      https://twitter.com/ColinYeo1/status/1405498500448768007

    429. Robert Hughes says:

      ” The BBC is now one of the most heavily cultural marxist (woke, in many circles) propaganda organisations on Earth.”

      A bit surprised to see you use this term – ” Cultural Marxism ” J.o.e .

      I struggle to see anything remotely * Marxist * about the new religion of Gender Ideology or the BBC for that matter .

      Sure they main propagators may , superficially at least , be * of the Left * but * Marxist * ?

      Is it not a term used mostly by Right Wing dafties like Andrew Neil Oliver and Fox News presenters in the same way the latter describe things like affordable health care ( or anything Scandinavian ) as * Socialism * .

      If there actually are any Marxists in the BBC I suspect they are the ones cleaning the floors and emptying the bins .

      I recently heard someone refer to Bill Gates as a Bolshevik .

      ’nuff said

    430. twathater says:

      The unfortunate thing is that this lunacy is NOT just being pushed by the deviant SNP it is also supported and ENCOURAGED by all the parties except the tories and they are only opposing it because it looks good to their voters , if it wasn’t for that they would support it too just like the wm tories

      I find it inconceivable that people are SO stupid that they cannot see what is going on with all these politicians and their total focus on sexual deviant practices , health , education ,and social welfare have all been captured by this mind rotting subservience to sexual practices that only affects a tiny percentage of the population yet we are forced to accept and embrace their perversions on threat of punishment

      I now believe that anyone supporting or being a member of the SNP is an enemy of independence , they are NOT independence supporters they are supporters of a political party that have wrapped the skin of the independence animal around themselves to falsely claim that title , a title that has been stolen and misappropriated from the previous entity by an actor and her cabal of self aggrandising morons who are using the party and title to further their own perverted aims , that these supporters and apologists cannot or will not see the travesty that is being paraded before them is all the proof that is needed to confirm they are not independence supporters but merely sycophants , followers and apologists of a false celebrity and her plastic party

    431. Dan says:

      One for the Luddites that still use a telly…
      Tune in soon for:

      #MurrelsMissingMoney

      https://twitter.com/bridgesforindy/status/1405555580933189637

    432. Stuart MacKay says:

      Robert Hughes

      The new religion of Gender Ideology is Marxist only indirectly as it follows Marx’s observation that Capitalism would reduces every human interaction into a transaction. Only the individual and their wants matters. The other party is just there to satisfy the want.

      Surely the Marxists in the BBC are the ones running around in limos and quaffing expensive wines with their media luvvies in the wine bars of the capital.

    433. James Che. says:

      Teaching children in any school an ideology is radicalisation,
      To exert or apply pressure to alter a way of thinking or to change patterns of behaviour in vulnerable groups is Radical warfare and must come (close) and similar in pattern to any other forms of radicalisation or terrorist ideology.

    434. Captain Yossarian says:

      “But Westminster stands by powerless as rights meant to be UK-wide – independent law officers, a parliament prepared to hold government to account, a press strong enough to speak truth to power – are trammelled by the power of a near one-party state.”

    435. Stuart MacKay says:

      James Che

      It’s been like this for a while.

      Up to recently it was only mildly evil stuff like Microsoft ensuring that Word and PowerPoint are the tools of choice for the next generation or nice things – depending on your perspective – like caring for the environment or climate change. Unfortunately the nutella brigade wanted in on the act too and here we are.

      Hmmm. I wonder is Nestlé know their product is being abused in such a manner.

    436. Stuart MacKay says:

      But of course, Nutella is owned by Ferrero. I should have checked first.

    437. Republicofscotland says:

      Well I just watched BBC Scotland news, and the segment on the missing indyfunds, Dougie Chapman of whom Glen Campbell tried to get a hold of, to ask him questions on why resigned, and where the funds are, appears to have gone to ground, and no one knows where he is.

      The COPFS foot soldiers Police Scotland, can’t make their minds up if they should open an investigation into the missing indyfunds or not, even though there’s been an official complaint about the missing money.

      Police Scotland aka the Keystone Cops, will be taking their cue from the COPFS, and their boss the Lord Advocate, who inturn advises Sturgeon the Betrayer, who is ultimately in charge of the missing funds, you couldn’t make this up if you tried.

    438. Tannadice Boy says:

      @Captain Yossarian 6:50pm
      UK rights? I am thinking human rights, that apply globally, especially for women. I have been feasting on glorious football during the Euro tournament. So haven’t had a chance to view your 6 pictures. Are they up yet? Will view tomorrow if they are. Dutch game coming up.

    439. Captain Yossarian says:

      Tannadice Boy says:
      17 June, 2021 at 7:04 pm

      No, he can’t post-up pictures. I sent him the report though and I notice he hasn’t posted that up either. He’ll want to keep it confidential perhaps; he knows what he is doing.

    440. Republicofscotland says:

      Michael McCormack Australia’s Deputy PM says he doesn’t give a monkeys on the impact that the Aussie/Westminster deal will have on Scotland, he’s only concerned about his own country’s farmers. McCormack added that he’s delighted with the deal and that Australians are the big winners out of it.

      Of course we expect Johnson to do deals that will impact negatively on Scotland and its economy.

      I blame Sturgeon the Betrayer for allowing Scotland to end up in this position, a position where our economy doesn’t know where its next big hit will come from with regards to Johnson’s trade deals.

      In essence Sturgeon the Betrayer has sold Scotland out by not holding an indyref, now Scots consumers and Scottish businesses will suffer greatly due to her negligence and self interests.

      Sturgeon the Betrayer has sold out Scotland, and we’ll have five more years of her and her party governing Scots.

      https://www.thenational.scot/politics/19379066.australia-trade-deal-michael-mccormack-dismissed-scottish-concerns/

    441. Tannadice Boy says:

      @Captain Yossarian 7:12pm
      Thanks for the update. Isn’t he away until August?. I will leave it in your capable hands. You know what I think though. If there is a case to answer the HSE would be all over it. I will drop in now and again to catch up with you. I am enjoying the football just now rather than Scottish politics which is so depressing at the moment. Take care.

    442. Robert Hughes says:

      ” Surely the Marxists in the BBC are the ones running around in limos and quaffing expensive wines with their media luvvies in the wine bars of the capital.”

      No those are the Groucho Club Marxists .

      Can’t claim to be an expert on Marx’s corpus Stu , just the main thrust of his analyses of Capitalism and the Class Struggle : I see how your point relates to the narcissistic component of Gender Ideology , though it seems in the case of G.I they’re lacking the transaction part , they just want to take without giving anything back : I was also reminded of Freud’s ideas about gratification and the significant influence of the what he termed the Pleasure Principal

    443. Captain Yossarian says:

      Tannadice Boy says:
      17 June, 2021 at 7:04 pm

      Network Rail and their engineering office are checking it. I’m glad it’s Network Rail and not Transport Scotland, who may be too easily got-at. The ICE are involved too and that is also good news. They’ve done very well so far, as you predicted they would.

      George is taking a holiday but keeping that site up to date. He doesn’t post up everything but he’s been following it for months. He was stitched-up by the same Glasgow lawyer I was. You would hardly credit that would you. They’re the Scottish Government’s favorites.

    444. Stuart MacKay says:

      Robert Hughes

      You might find this interesting,

      https://randompublicjournal.com/2021/04/12/welcome-to-foucault-world-suckers/

      In essence, gender identity is all about the liberation of the individual and that anything that opposes any desire the individual has is oppression.

      How this became the backbone of mainstream leftist thinking, at least among the virtue signalling classes, is quite beyond me. The supremacy of the individual seems as right-wing as it’s possible to get.

    445. Ruby says:

      Republicofscotland says:
      17 June, 2021 at 6:59 pm
      Well I just watched BBC Scotland news, and the segment on the missing indyfunds, Dougie Chapman of whom Glen Campbell tried to get a hold of, to ask him questions on why resigned, and where the funds are, appears to have gone to ground, and no one knows where he is.

      Reply

      Can you blame him?

      Douglas Champman gave the reason why he resigned. What more could he say?

      He did say when he resigned that

      “I do not intend to make a further statement on this issue. 2/2”
      Glen Campbell ommitted that part of the tweet.

      Anyone listening to Glen Campbell you would think Douglas Chapman ran off with the funds.

      Any reason why Glen Campbell didn’t interview Peter Murrell or the current treasurer?

      Why did he let she/her away with saying ‘nothing to see here, all finances are in order’ or words to that effect?

    446. Republicofscotland says:

      “Any reason why Glen Campbell didn’t interview Peter Murrell or the current treasurer?”

      Ruby.

      I’d say its pretty obvious why, both would say very little if anything at all, at least Chapman gave his reasons for resigning maybe Campbell thought he could get a little more out Chapman, possibly something he hasn’t already revealed.

    447. PacMan says:

      I’ve been meaning to post about this and I’ve been trying to articulate it but this mention of getting children to dress up as drag queens is central to what I want to say.

      I would describe myself as woke, not as batsh1t crazy as most, but still woke. It is fair to say that over the last year or two, this site has moved to a social conservative position which I didn’t feel entirely comfortable with.

      I had the choice of moving onto PayPaul Kavanaghs site which a lot of others had did at the time but I didn’t.

      I’m not sure why but as time went on and I had read the Rev’s posts, it was dawning on me that I couldn’t argue against this gender nonsense, even though logically as someone who was woke should do.

      It’s obvious that these middle class hustlers are hijacking the cause for equality as warned by Malcom X with the white liberals hijacking civil rights movements and before him Frantz Fanon who said that white liberal types who held up blacks who shared the same values as them were as racist as those who enslaved them.

      The other thing that woke/progressivism is how arbitrary it is. It involves change from the norm with no agreed end in sight and we have to depend on the integrity of the individuals involved not to manipulate it for their own ends.

      We have seen this with Alex Salmond where he delivered socially progressive policies when he was in power and now we are seeing Nicola Sturgeon using progressivism just to keep in power and further her position. The end result with Sturgeons manipulation doesn’t bode well.

      For those who believe in equality and fairness, where do we go from here?

      It is hard to say but I do have a feeling that with some aspects of social change, it needs to be taken out of hands of politicians and given to the people, or at least organisations that speak for those affected by these changes.

      That might sound like abdication of responsibility of politicians but do we want decisions that have profound effect on our daily lives solely in the hands of ‘Peacocks’ like Sturgeon and Blair who puff their plumage out for all to see of their righteousness but have totally different agendas or are simply too incompetent or not as smart as they think they are to deliver what they think they believe in?

      This is just a post to get some of the thoughts I’ve been having on the subject, hopefully it makes a little sense 🙂

    448. Robert Hughes says:

      Stuart .

      Funnily enough I read this piece recently .

      I actually don’t disagree with a lot of Foucault’s ideas . I think our notions of * self * are largely provisional, constructed , lacking , for lack of a better word – reality , but replacing one with another doesn’t make them any less chimerical , and insisting people accept what you’ve decided is yours as real is pretty ludicrous , if you want to play gender Dungeons and Dragons fine , just don’t expect me to play along .

      There’s something quite radical in his deconstruction of notions of Self , he just doesn’t go far enough ,never questions what ANY idea Self is .

      Consciousness is distinct from self/identity , is , in essence , impersonal , or maybe supra-personal

    449. Tannadice Boy says:

      @Captain Yossarian 7:59pm
      I can’t imagine what Network Rail has to do with this? You are losing me. What’s the school in Aberdeen called? I am capable of researching myself and I have the resources. I have hundreds of CEng contacts. Are you a Guido Fawkes troll? 77th brigade? You have undone your case. I will complain to the PM and Her Majesty. And we have contacts there. No wonder the Unionists are losing their case. Playing on the safety of our children for political gain. The name of the Aberdeen School?

    450. PacMan says:

      Don says: 13 June, 2021 at 11:30 pm

      The early warnings were there , apart from supporting a fraudster she was wholly responsible for the pure fantasy White Paper. She simply isn’t a thinker but just a liar.

      https://www.sundaypost.com/news/scottish-news/sturgeon-almost-resigned-over-defence-of-convicted-fraudster/

      I’ve been thinking about this article since I had read this and it came to focus with a recent Herald article where it was mentioned she had apologised to business leaders for a mistake she had made in her dealings with the pandemic.

      I remember the incident with her relationship with the convicted fraudster and had put it down at the time that is was an error in judgement that we have made from time to time.

      Obviously in hindsight of recent events regarding Alex Salmond and her time as a solicitor does give a different perspective on the incident but there is a point in the article where Alex Salmond said she shouldn’t have resigned because it made her look weak.

      She apologised and she got out of the situation. Since then when she makes mistakes, she apologies. It does seem that she can do anything and if it goes wrong, all she needs to do is apologise and she can get away with it.

      It does feel that by apologising, it isn’t making her look weak but it makes her weak as she doesn’t need to be worry about taking responsibility for her actions and accept the possible consequences.

      The question is though, how long will the public accept these continued apologies from a weak leader?

    451. Dan says:

      All this chatter btl for months and some folk don’t even know which school is being discussed…

      https://archive.is/Wk0i5

    452. Dan says:

      Sunday Post link in PacMan’s quote from Don archived.

      https://archive.is/2KDUm

    453. Tannadice Boy says:

      @Dan 9:02pm
      Thanks Dan. Something for me to work on. I personally will research this and consult my contacts and will report to the HSE myself if I feel its warranted.

    454. Captain Yossarian says:

      @Tannadice Boy – https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/subsidence-new-aps12m-school-sparks-investigation-1472499

      The ICE are based in London and so are Network Rail. Don’t forget Network Rail investigated the cause of the train derailment near Stonehaven during last winter which was caused by much the same thing. My guess is the ICE know and trust them.

      My experience of engineers used by the Scottish Government is that they are a dishonest bunch. I’m not complaining about them for nothing, you know. London engineers may be more honest, that’s all. By the way, I think he’s a Scotsman; he only prefers London but, then again, so do I these days.

    455. Tannadice Boy says:

      @Captain Yossarian 9:19pm
      You are out. It takes Dan to tell us where the school is? And not you. I worried you were keen to blank the HSE. So I will investigate myself and if I think a case is warranted I will act. I will report it to the HSE. You shouldn’t play with the lives of our children. A lot of personal resource coming up for me. You are no better than the SNP.

    456. Dan says:

      @ Tannadice Boy

      Happy to help. Just a little miffed that an engineery sort of bloke wouldn’t have clocked the name of the school already, what with attention to detail being a trait engineers should have…

      I was discussing the school with my mechanic pals last week and one pointed out their lad’s new built school requires buckets in the corridors when it rains.
      Got to hand it to the modern day architects, designers and builders with their computer aided design software and new efficient building materials. They sure as fuck know how to screw things up.
      And here’s me, re-slating an ancient roof by chipping old Scottish slates down to a size of just 5.5 x 4 inches at the ridge, and still managing to do it in a way that keeps the roof from pissing in water when it rains.

    457. Alec Lomax says:

      J.O.E. – workers rule ya bass, Tory boy.

    458. PacMan says:

      Im genuinely surprised how long standing posters are entertaining Sleepy J.O.E. as he is just spouting the same garbage that is strewn all over the BTL comments on the likes of the Daily Mail site.

    459. Tannadice Boy says:

      @Dan 9:35pm
      I took the guy at face value. Don’t be miffed. I am a proper Scottish Engineer.
      It won’t take me long to find out the facts now I know the school. Of course you could have posted this information earlier.
      And if I find out this is a Unionist inspired ruse playing on the lives of our children. I will be standing in front of Boris asking for an explanation. And asking her Majesty for redress. You are about to find out the power of our contacts.

    460. PacMan says:

      Just to mention about Foucault, of course as Robert Hughes mentioned, there’s isn’t anything wrong with a lot he says.

      However, the fundamental point I disagree with him is that we live in a society with other people and to do that we need rules and regulations to govern us and how we behave towards each others. It is conformity which affects our identity, who we are and how we act.

      Of course we need to balance the needs of the good of society with our own sense of individuality so that we can pursue a course that brings us happiness/joy/contentment but we simply can’t as he says do whatever we want and be damned with the consequences.

      I only have a superficial understanding of Foucault so that’s my take on it. I might read a bit more into his stuff and read a bit more into this Queer theory malarky when I have some time.

      If I do, it’ll give me a better understanding of it which is a hell of a lot more than what these Woke fanatics will. I can seriously imagine that if you sat down with these people and discussed even this basics of it, you would be met with a bewildered stare.

    461. Captain Yossarian says:

      Tannadice Boy says:
      17 June, 2021 at 9:35 pm

      Not blanking the HSE at-all, but things are moving along. The ICE are excellent and they answer me almost as fast as you do.

      I think the HSE will want it checked too and the checking is being done. They will stand back and do nothing until the check is finished.

      I used to work in one of these design offices doing this type of work; I worked there as part of my design office training in the mid-80’s and so they already know there is a problem and they are currently designing the solution.

      That’s what I think. I might be wrong but I don’t think I am.

    462. Captain Yossarian says:

      Tannadice Boy says:
      17 June, 2021 at 9:48 pm

      This information has been posted-up many, many times now; you must have been sleeping.

      The best engineers are from Glasgow. Every single one is from Glasgow. From the tenements. We’re called Tenement Toms. We built all the ships, remember. You folk from Dundee just assembled typewriters and made jam and stuff like that.

    463. Dan says:

      @ Tannadice Boy

      FYI Captn Yossa posted the Scotsman link to the school yonks ago, and has done a few times since. Of course, I use the archived link…

      And for any young aspiring designers and engineers reading in, throw your fuckin laptops in the sea and spend 15 quid on this ancient book.
      Get back to using basic principles and enough with the over complex stuff.

      https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/233903483401

    464. Tannadice Boy says:

      @Captain Yossarian 9:57pm
      I no longer trust anything you say. I will do my own research. And I will report what I want to the HSE. Including representation to the PM and Her Majesty. This has been Unionist ruse playing on the lives of our children. Absolutely disgusting.

    465. Captain Yossarian says:

      Dan says:
      17 June, 2021 at 10:07 pm

      And here’s me thinking Tannadice Boy was a sensible guy with his head screwed-on. God knows what he’ll be like tomorrow if we get leathered by the English.

    466. Robert Hughes says:

      ” Of course we need to balance the needs of the good of society with our own sense of individuality so that we can pursue a course that brings us happiness/joy/contentment but we simply can’t as he says do whatever we want and be damned with the consequences.”

      Agreed .

      Hence Laws .

      Who makes them , enforces them and benefits from them ?
      How much , for example , should the Law be able to determine what citizens can and can’t consume , for recreation or * spiritual * purposes .

      There are no consequences for wider society if someone takes mushrooms in the privacy of their own space : but it’s illegal to do so .

      Like you , I’ve not delved into Foucault’s work in depth but I know he got pretty crazed on acid at times and I kind of agree with him that Drug Laws are reflection of the mores of the ruling class and impose arbitrary prohibitions on peoples’desire to explore human possibilities

    467. Tannadice Boy says:

      @Captain Yossarian 10:15pm
      I will be going to view this school myself on Saturday. Meanwhile asking the questions of my former colleagues. Their will be serious repercussions if a Unionist inspired play put the safety of our children at risk and even worse if it was a polical play. You and Dan are responsible for your actions. I am responsible for mine. A redress from Her Majesty is what I will be asking for. And an audience with Boris.

    468. Jockanese Wind Talker says:

      Exodus over transgender advice continues as Government pulls out of Stonewall diversity training.

      https://archive.ph/GLt9S

      The Cabinet Office confirmed that it and the UK Government Equalities Office have ended membership of the controversial LGBT charity’s Diversity Champions scheme.

      It comes as Liz Truss, the women and equalities minister, suggested all Government departments cut ties over growing fears that the scheme lobbies for workplace policies that risk being at odds with the 2010 Equality Act.

      The programme counts 250 Whitehall departments and public bodies among its 850 members, who pay at least £2,500 a year for guidance on pronouns and gender-neutral facilities.

      Nice little earner as minimum the Rainbow Mafia will be getting in ‘protection money’ is 850 x £2500 = £2,125,000 p/a!

    469. Meg merrilees says:

      Pacman

      yours is a really valuable post because it makes me realise that I am not a bigot – as others would call me- but that there is a dangerous veering away from sense and sensibility in this whole woke movement.

      How can learned judges, university professors and mature adults find fault with the statement that there are men and women. The majority of the human race is either one or the other. Yes, I know that there are some genuine intersex people with extra chromosomes or other rare variations of their body but for the most part we are either XX or XY and that will not change from the point of conception.

      Where will it all end?

      Well, so long as people like yourself are honest enough and brave enough to post online as you have done tonight and others are prepared to fight it all the way to the Courts for sense to prevail then I have hope.
      Thankyou.

    470. Alastair Bryan says:

      Unfortunately Stuarts prediction is coming true 1 month in from the election and nothing has been done by the SNP to further the cause of independence. I hope the SNP have a changing of the guard, sooner rather than later. I feel betrayed by the SNP leadership. My hope for the future is a coup in the SNP where the leadership is replaced by real Patriots. If the SNP dont change their game there is always ALBA. We need to give the SNP a fright and show them there the next Labour party, if they continue to let us down.We will vote ALBA.

    471. Tannadice Boy says:

      @Dan and Captain Yossarian
      I hope Michelle MacKay the headmistress is available on Saturday for a free safety audit. All engineering disciplines will made be available. A school that burned down and now has Unionist playing them for all it’s worth. Already I don’t believe it. Some subsidence in the playground but not on the building. Shame on them. I wonder how many PCs from Police Scotland will be there?. SNP Police Scotland, Glasgow PC numbers no doubt.

    472. J.o.e says:

      @Robert Hughes

      Im not going to say much more on the subject except that its probably the biggest, sourest, most jagged edged red pill out there.

      Im not a fan of raw capitalism nor global communism because both systems come to a conclusion that puts a very few in complete control and with everyone else under the heel. This is not surprising once you learn that the big communist projects such as the early Soviet Union and Mao’s China were helped along by international bankers and others from Europe and the US.

      You mentioned it so i’ll say it again: the Bolshevik revolution and the early Soviet Union has a large amount of facts that are now hidden that were once common knowledge. As Solzhenitsyn said:

      “You must understand, the leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. It cannot be overstated. Bolshevism committed the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant and uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is in the hands of the perpetrators.”

      Once you understand some of the now mostly missing information it unlocks everything else that happened afterwards in Europe in the 1st half of the 20th century and consequently the world we inherited – if you have the guts to go there. It turns a lot of sacred myth on its head.

      What we are facing now along with many other western countries – the deliberate collapse of our economy through debt and other means, the opening of our borders, the pushing of transgenderism and ultimately worse things in the fullness of time, the general dismissal of ordinary folk and the rule of law, the general lack of dignity in which we are seen by the woke (critical theory inspired) elite has been seen before in greater measure.

      Its all there to find out. Even wikipedia, as sanitised as it is, gives a good introduction if you have the eyes to look and the mind to see. The trouble is you will never be able to fully talk about it openly because people will automatically consider you the devil incarnate and retreat into their lifetime of brainwashing.

      So where do my loyalties lie? 2 years ago my family. My loyalties now extend beyond my family to my community and nation because ive learned that unless we gel together as a nation, properly and not just in voting blocks, we are totally and utterly fucked. Only nations with strongly defined laws and boundaries, along with a strong sense of national identity and heritage can protect people from the powers of big finance now. If strong nations can work together then perfect

      Radical individualism is pushed on all fronts because scattered people working for individual goals and their own self interests will never stand against a concerted effort to subdue them.

    473. Don says:

      @J.o.e 18 June, 2021 at 12:38 am

      “Only nations with strongly defined laws and boundaries, along with a strong sense of national identity and heritage can protect people from the powers of big finance now. If strong nations can work together then perfect”

      Very funny that you think Nationalism can protect you against “Big Business” https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-in-scotland-groups-linked-to-the-super-rich-pocket-thousands-in-covid-cash-mzp8rbg32

      Andrew Wilson the writer of the SNP’s own Growth Commission paper that Sturgeon supports worked for Fred Goodwin at RBS and now is a full partner in Charlotte Street Partners which works to support Big Business and he personally gains from the financing put in place to build the new Sick Kids Hospital in Edinburgh.

      SNP themselves selling the Scottish NHS to Big Business right here https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1214498/general-election-news-nicola-sturgeon-nhs-deal-us-firm-contract

    474. Don says:

      @Alec Lomax 17 June, 2021 at 9:36 pm

      “J.O.E. – workers rule ya bass, Tory boy.”

      Do you mean so called “workers” like you that don’t even understand how socialism works ? 🙂
      https://ifs.org.uk/publications/15418

    475. Don says:

      @PacMan 17 June, 2021 at 9:02 pm

      “The early warnings were there , apart from supporting a fraudster she was wholly responsible for the pure fantasy White Paper. She simply isn’t a thinker but just a liar”

      A much bigger Liar than you perhaps still realise , Scotland has simply been getting conned but i have no idea how long it will finally take numerically knowledge challenged “useful idiots” to finally understand that fact.
      https://notesonnationalism.substack.com/p/are-we-supposed-to-take-this-seriously

      https://ifs.org.uk/publications/15418

    476. Don says:

      @Alastair Bryan 18 June, 2021 at 12:04 am

      “Unfortunately Stuarts prediction is coming true 1 month in from the election and nothing has been done by the SNP to further the cause of independence”

      Are you still struggling to understand why yet ?

      https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2021/02/04/indyref2-scottish-independence-would-be-2-3-times-more-costly-than-that-of-brexit-and-rejoining-the-eu-wouldnt-make-up-the-difference/

      https://notesonnationalism.substack.com/p/are-we-supposed-to-take-this-seriously

      Independence is nothing but a campaigning tool to get useless people into power. SNP and Alba both know it would be ruinous and don’t really want it but just use it to manipulate “Useful idiots” to put them in power to fill their Bank Balances.
      Indy is just a useful carrot to wheel out before elections.

    477. twathater says:

      Pacman I have read many of your comments and posts over time some I agree with others not so much but that is the norm for discussion , but overall I would say you have appeared libertarian in your views so I am not surprised that you self confess as woke or progressive, unfortunately in today’s society that could be considered skewed or obsessive

      You also say———–
      It is hard to say but I do have a feeling that with some aspects of social change, it needs to be taken out of hands of politicians and given to the people, or at least organisations that speak for those affected by these changes.
      ————————————-

      I agree with the first part as politicians have shown they DO NOT represent the views of their electorate but the views of THEIR PARTY or their own views , as for the second part WE are in this despicable position due to the unconstrained power of organisations effecting these changes who have been adopted wholeheartedly and unreservedly by the SG , organisations who represent a minuscule percentage of the electorate overthrowing the rights , safety and security of at least 50% of the population

      I have advocated on numerous occasions referendums to take place where changes which affect or impact at least 50% of the electorate are decided by the majority , the SG consultation on the GRA was open to submissions from interested parties from across the world , what other country does that , and even with that corrupt skewed decision they REFUSED to publish the results

    478. Breeks says:


      Alastair Bryan says:
      18 June, 2021 at 12:04 am

      …. We need to give the SNP a fright and show them there the next Labour party, if they continue to let us down.We will vote ALBA.

      Keep it simple. Vote ALBA.

      What is there left of the SNP to trust?

    479. Captain Yossarian says:

      @Dan – ‘Molesworth’s Pocket Book of Engineering Formulae’ – for £15. That’s a bargain by the way and it’s just what Tannadice Boy needs; it will help improve his mind and keep him studying at nights, instead of watching the football.

    480. Luigi says:

      RE lack of action on indy. I don’t think anyone here is surprised. Nicola seems to think there is more mileage in her Covid Queen role. It’s a pity she pushed the capable Jeane Freeman aside but I guess she spotted an opportunity to shine. Much safer than actually fighting for indy eh? It’s sad that her considerable personal opportunistic instincts do not seem to apply to the constitution. Maybe it’s too big and beyond her capability and deep down she knows it. Sad.

    481. robertknight says:

      Transwoman goes on Alpine skiing holiday.

      Gets caught in avalanche; missing presumed dead.

      Human remains, devoid of external soft tissue, discovered two years later.

      Following an autopsy, the Pathologist states “Male” on their report.

      As I understand it, here in Scotland if you insist that a Transwoman is Male you’re now guilty of a hate crime. Therefore would the Pathologist (if this happened in Scotland) be guilty of criminal behaviour if they were asked and refused to change their report? If not, why not?

    482. Tannadice Boy says:

      @Captain Yossarian 7:00am
      The tragedy of Unionism is they keep making the same mistake. If I were a Unionist I would do absolutely nothing. Nicla is doing a grand job in destroying the case for Independence all by herself. We have a Hobsons choice. The Union or Niclas Scotland. Your right I should be watching the football. I will eat my Scotland tammy if your safety case ever sees the light of day and results in change.

    483. Dan says:

      Keep it under your hat but here’s a scientific experiment…
      A 5 day study is in progress to find out if rich people can use top hats instead of masks to prevent spreading and catching ra dreaded covid.

      https://twitter.com/mojos55/status/1405609373402083332

    484. Daisy Walker says:

      Just saw a clip of Auntie Beebs ‘investigation’ into the missing IR2 funds.

      Good auld Auntie – still protecting her ain.

      Huge body swerve of the words, ‘ring-fenced’ – replaced with the term ‘earmarked’.

      Still it highlights where their official line of defence argument is likely to be.

      We are so screwed.

    485. Daisy Walker says:

      Meanwhile, over at Alba – they’re going to hold their first conference in September…

      No laughing at the back, really, they will – just because. The very concept that there will be a 3rd lockdown preventing it is simply not acceptable to them.

      And wouldn’t it be nice, and useful, if, since its been strongly indicated that in 2023 there will be a GE… 2 years away…. and we will NEVER get a good shot with the media… wouldn’t it be sensible, if Alba selected GE candidates for each area… NOW, and they, along with the councillor candidates, started going round the doors – NOW, doing it face to face, and making the next GE a plebiscite GE.

      Housing sales are going through the roof in my area, being bought, unseen, 10 – 15% over the asking price by English people, looking for Liebensraum.

    486. Captain Yossarian says:

      Tannadice Boy says:
      18 June, 2021 at 8:11 am

      We have too many politicians in Scotland. Politicians, councillors, civil-servants and lawyers. In recent years they have all reached a compromise where they each cover the others’ backs and that way they can all do very little for us and still get paid. They all pretend to disagree with each other, but they all get-along well-enough including all of the staffers and SPADS.

      Anyway, I am thinking about getting ‘Molesworths Pocket Book of Engineering Formulae’ for you and presenting it to you for all your help. You can carry it in your inside coat pocket and read it on the bus. Joe Beltrami used to carry a gangland killer’s knife in his inside coat pocket, you can carry your Molesworths Pocket Book of Engineering Formulae. You can be a Gentleman-Jim at last.

      I remember a school wall fell down at Liberton High and a pupil was tragically killed. A few years later another wall fell down at Oxgangs School and that resulted in the Cole Inquiry. We have learned nothing from either of these incidents sadly. I think you’re right and this school will be fixed, there will be a big cover-up and nothing will actually change.

      That’s why you have decided to seek pastures new and I am the same. This has taken 7-years and I have come to conclusion that the whole of Scotland is institutionally corrupt now. There is not a single public body with ‘Scotland’ in the title that I would trust nowadays.

      As you alluded to a while ago, the Engineering Institutions can still be trusted. I only wish I had gone to them 7-years ago instead of to Holyrood politicians, councillors, civil servants and lawyers.

      I reckon the ICE have gone to Network Rail for a good reason.

    487. Robert Hughes says:

      J.o.e @ 12.38

      Good post from you as per , nothing in it I would challenge : just to say all * official * histories are partial ( in both senses of the word ) and much relevant information related to world-changing events is lost , buried or twisted to suit particular interpretations .

      As I understand it , what became the Russian Revolution was started by a small group of female protesting workers , gathered momentum and grew in number and only then did the exiled Lenin , seeing what was happening as an opportunity to put his ideas into action , make his famous return to Russia and quickly seized control of events : the rest , as they say , is history – rather * History * . Also worth noting Lenin did not trust Stalin and tried, even on his death bed, to prevent him taking over the leadership position . Alas , neither he nor any of other members of the Communist hierarchy were a match for psycho Joe’s will-to-power

      If you’re referring to the involvement of the Rothschild Family ( that incarnation of Evil in the popular * conspiracy * imagination ) with Marx personally and the Russian Revolution generally , well , I agree it’s a less know facet of the * story * but , again , has been subjected to a degree of distortion and partial interpretation .

      I think maybe some people on here misinterpret where you’re coming from politically , mistaking your views as advocating a species of xenophobic Nationalism : wrongly in my opinion …

      You said ” Only nations with strongly defined laws and boundaries, along with a strong sense of national identity and heritage can protect people from the powers of big finance now. If strong nations can work together then perfect ”

      I agree , and the recent example of Estonia illustrates this point exactly

    488. Dan says:

      Make up of Holyrood Committees. (Image can be clicked to enlarge to make it easier to view names)

      https://twitter.com/BBCPhilipSim/status/1405561268560355334

    489. Breastplate says:

      Tannadice boy,
      The Unionists don’t seem to understand that they are British nationalists.
      A goodly helping of hypocrisy helps this skewed thinking.
      They should be reminded of that when they get on their high horse that looks amazingly like a very large commode.

    490. robbo says:

      On a lighter note.

      Seriously wtf ? Only in America they say- coming here soon .

      I think the groom needs to have a rethink if he should be marrying this woman.

      https://www.msn.com/en-gb/lifestyle/relationships/bride-asked-wedding-photographer-to-take-explicit-photos-of-her-wedding-night-and-internet-is-cringing/ar-AAL9DCH?ocid=msedgntp

    491. Republicofscotland says:

      So the subject of Scottish drug related deaths popped up yesterday at FMQ’s and the focus is of course on Westminster and why it won’t devolve drug laws.

      I don’t blame Westminster for Scotland having one of, if not the highest drug death rate in Europe, no I blame Sturgeon the betrayer, for if she had kept her promise since 2016, and held an indyref we’d be independent by now and Scotland would’ve had all the levers of government in place to deal with Scotland’s drug addicted Scots.

      No Sturgeon the betrayer decided to put her and her party’s interests before that of Scots who needed help and now thousands of them have died, whatever Westminster inflicts upon Scotland post 2016, and it will inflict plenty upon us, I don’t blame Westminster or Johnson for it, no the blame lies entirely on Sturgeon the Betrayer for selling us out.

    492. Luigi says:

      Following the disappointment of the Holyrood election,ALBA now have a bit of time to strengthen and grow. The good news is that most of the dedicated and experienced indy campaigners, door-knockers and general grafters now support ALBA. Somehow, I think they may get a better reception on the streets than the gangs of spotty-faced, know-it-all wokies who the SNP now seem to be depending on. Interesting times.



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