Wings Over Scotland

@Tannadice Boy – Thanks for that. I’m contacting the ICE tomorrow. They’ve been excellent and I’m working on it right now.

@Stuart MacKay, Republicofscotland et al –

Have been thinking about your exchange this afternoon.

Couple of weeks ago I tweeted to see if there would be any interest in a ‘Friends of Wings’ type of gathering before the end of this year. Quite a positive reaction overall, with the expected couple of snide remarks about Stu being ‘yesterday’s man’ etc.

But it’s a sad fact that we won’t be able to have such gatherings again. Well, we could certainly organise something but there’s no chance it would be the same. I always assume that, as an ordinary Yes supporter, my experiences mirror those of others. And if that’s true then the damage done is beyond repair. The suspicion, the anger, the sense of betrayal. God only knows how long it’ll take to heal, if it ever does.

We can argue over who to blame, but the end-result remains the same. The Yes movement we all helped to build (if only by being physically present) has been destroyed. And now we fight like rats in a sack. And if we run out of indy-related scores to settle with one another we can always argue about The Covid, or whether or not such-and-such a ‘wummin’ has undescended testicles.

I don’t mean this to sound negative. It’s how I honestly see it right now and I suspect many others feel the same.

Fuckin ‘serr fecht’ right enough…

🙁

DUBAI: Global oil prices continued their surge on Wednesday as traders and analysts eyed the prospect of crude spiking above $100 per barrel this year for the first time since 2014.

Brent traded above the $70 mark for the third consecutive day, hitting a two-year high,

Traders are increasingly betting that crude can go all the way to $100 per barrel by the end of the year, with large amounts of speculative money in New York and other trading hubs buying contracts at that price.

Ian B.
An interpretation.
The price of the oil extracted from Scottish waters is on the “embarrassing” level, and headed towards historic heights.
Production similar.

Take just a tenner from each barrel, and let your imagination go.
Food banks?
Third world educational system?
Houses fit for purpose?
Underpinning for sinking Schools…

Quelle surprise… Not

“No action will be taken against Scottish Green chiefs who breached Covid rules by going for a pint in Edinburgh, cops have confirmed.”

link to archive.is

Quality Polis were probably too busy chasing “real crime” like chasing those pesky women standing up for their rights by putting wee stickers on lampposts…

Meanwhile in NuScotland

link to twitter.com

Why the drama and angst, surely Trans Wildcats are Wildcats. Problem solved. HTH

Yeah, I know that really friendly soft, cuddly and purring wildcat sitting on your lap looks like a white Persian and it would probably get beat up by a mouse, but it really is a bona fide Scottish tabby wildcat.

I think it should be (sair fecht ).

There is a rumour going about that there is a school sinking in Aberdeen and it is all Honest John Swinney`s fault. Note correct use of the apostrophe.

I think this is even more boring than Cameron B Brodie.I did not think that was possible !!!!

Hugh Jarse 9 June, 2021 at 11:20 pm

“In comments broadcast in a radio interview, Andrew Wilson – who chairs the party’s Growth Commission – conceded that any future economic case for independence should not include North Sea oil revenues.”
link to dailybusinessgroup.co.uk

cynicalHighlander says:
9 June, 2021 at 11:39 pm
“Apparently Reporting Scotland should be of interest tomorrow.”

Officially announcing their support for Gareth Southgates brave boys?

@Ian Brotherhood

Sorry I have no idea it came from Bridges for Indy.

link to archive.is

Comedy gold.

I think a lot of the issues independence supporters have been lumbered with are down to the fact that independence has been unilaterally gifted to politicians of the worst sort.

Building a new state is an immense task filled with self sacrifice.

Scotland does not have a political class with the means or ability, let alone integrity to deliver.

I’ll pay attention again when the criminals, cocksuckers, cross dressers, political Islamists and complete cunts that comprise the current parliament are gone.

I don’t expect I’ll take a proper interest again anytime soon, if ever.

I have 4 citizenship/passports.

I doubt I will ever return to Scotland. I have a wife and child to think of as well as a business to run.

I wouldn’t have my daughter in a Scottish state school under any circumstances and I won’t be censored unless what I say is defamatory ( I would apologise if I were wrong of course, aaaaah memories of democracy and debate).

I’m sure Scotland doesn’t need me. I can be replaced easy by a Pole or a Pakistani or someone else right? No problem eh. Just accident of birth or a state of mind that Scottishness thing. Same with my daughter, Scotland doesn’t need her. Wouldn’t want to take up resources that can be better used for real Scottish people, like men from England who wear panties and jack off in women’s or people from Islamic countries who come under false pretences, break immigration law, and refuse to LEAVE. I’ll leave Scotland to the real Scots.

@Stuart Mackay

Sorry for late reply. I’ll have to see about getting my nose in that book, sounds quite informative. The guy who started the UK Column has been speaking about the depth of the psychological operations that have been going on in Britain against the public and has considerable evidence via government documentation.

In regards to my search for a magic phrase to unlock peoples will to think critically about any particular subject im half mocking and half alluding to the way that people are propagandised into a highly distorted worldview so that people can be in an uproar about something quite small while being extremely passive about another much bigger and more outrageous issue.

To put it roughly in my darker moments I wonder if the elite aren’t somewhat correct when they assume that people are pliable idiots who get what they deserve.

If your neighbour is a known thief and you come home one day to find your house burgled you might have a justified suspicion that it could be him

If a band of multi billionaires who have profited off the misery and debt slavery of most of the world while projecting a false image through their media turn up on your radar of suspicion for world events that drastically increase their wealth while limiting your freedoms then its conspiracy theory and not justified suspicion.

Both situations are justified suspicion. One is plausible to most. The other is inconceivable to most – apparently regardless of evidence. This is why we are in the situation that we are in.

I don’t believe most people want truth. Even the ones who say they do. What they want is a semi-plausible story that near enough fits what they are experiencing so that they can wake up in the morning not feeling like they should just end it and find the motivation to go to work.

Ive had a couple of experiences in the last decade that pretty much turned my somewhat mainstream worldview on its head and if im honest it wasn’t nice.

Someone said ‘the truth shall set you free’ but they never mentioned it would isolate you and alienate you from those who don’t find it quite so important.

So Johnson and Gove were found to have broken the law in a High court ruling, on giving their buddies PPE contracts worth over £500,000 pounds, the info was outed thanks to the magnificent efforts of The Good Law Project.

However the millionaire knight of the realm and leader of the Labour party Sir Keir Starmer, failed at yesterdays PMQs to apply a coup de grace in Johnson’s direction on the matter, is it any wonder then that Starmer’s poll rating are plummeting.

No action or consequences will befall Gove or Johnson for their blatant cronyism using taxpayers cash, for like the Scottish government at Holyrood there is no accountability.

For anyone unaware, the first show has launched. Make of it what you will: link to youtube.com

Just a few wee thoughts re CM’s verdict.

On the one hand they are prosecuting him because as a blogger he does not uphold the fine standards of the MSM (being ironic here), and who due to their status and influence can be ‘trusted’ to behave, and on the other hand they are throwing the book at him with a draconian prison sentence in order to deter others from even thinking about it – which would sort of mean that his blog has as much influence and credibility than the MSM.

By setting the bar so low that no-one can report any of the defence evidence in the Alex Salmond trial – they are undermining the function of the court and encouraging the ‘court of public opinion’ – ie the mob.

Deeply corrupt.

Wonder if this decision now means it is hate speech to class gender critical folk as transphobic.

link to twitter.com

Dan says:
10 June, 2021 at 10:45 am
Wonder if this decision now means it is hate speech to class gender critical folk as transphobic.

link to twitter.com

Reply

Interesting question.

I like Luke Warm Dave’s tweet

“@DaveLukewarm
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@MForstater
Fantastic result. Incredible that we’re celebrating something that should never have happened, let alone got as far as it did”

NUJ defend Murray: “I am forced to add, the NUJ was seriously deficient in protecting Stuart Campbell, editor of Wings Over Scotland, from the antics British state, police harrassment, death trolls, and all. He resigned from the NUJ in disgust.”

‘Truth versus Law: link to wp.me

Dan.
Re wildcats,
That’s funny.
The wildcats that have become accustomed to being fed, sheltered, probably inoculated and wormed by humans for a number of years and having human contact will be released into the wilderness of Scotland as new age wildcats. I hope they remember how to hunt.

John Reid, health secretary in a labour government, had to make a decision about abortion times, he never resigned on principle

He claims he is a catholic, now with Glasgow Celtic the man
god, more a man of dosh before anything else

Robert Knight 3.38

You wrote “Deluded or conceited? Take your pick.”

Neither Robert. A reasonable analogy might be that I am a member of a club, a member leaves – why would I change the name of the club?

Once again, the mutant Stockholm Syndrome variant that affects some Yessers rises up on these pages. If Scotland was an Independent country why would you care what other folk happen to call their country (i.e. the country that you are not part of)? Why would you care what the citizens of a country that you were not part of, call their Queen?

You need to get some therapy Robert.

Ferdinand Marcos and wife, president and first lady of the philippines Dec 30 1965 to Feb 25 1986, 20 years and 57 days.

Nicked between 5 billion dollars and 10 million dollars from the people of the philippines where ousted and fled to a safe haven which happens to contain pearl harbour, but they only took money with them, no honour Lu LU was required.

The Snp are missing 600 grand and Saint nick and her man, the mighty doughnut know where it is but keeping it a secret to themselves.
They are only part/timers compared to Ferdinand and his missus, I don’t think those two will be near a beach in honalulu, more likely a cell with an indoor toilet and skye Tv facilities

link to tinyurl.com

Why Cats Purr and Other Feline Mysteries Explained.

Great read!

So the president of the most evil empire on earth Joe Biden, has said that the Great Satan (USA) will give away to other countries that need it, 500 million doses of Covid vaccine absolutely free with no strings attached.

Of course the plan is to stop any other countries from acquiring Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine, or China’s Covid vaccine, so in reality Biden the head of the US snake isn’t acting in a humanitarian way, he sees a way to slow down or stop Russian and Chinese influence via their Covid vaccines.

Ian Brotherhood @10:08pm

There’s little point in looking back. All you’ll see are the faithful grasping onto the wreckage still hoping (praying) that St. Nicola is going to deliver. Instead it’s time for a new direction that does not all the eggs in one basket and is able to deal with sniping that will come from north and south of the border.

It’s just a pity we didn’t get to this level of understanding regarding the situation a little sooner.

Sarah @12.11pm.

There’s not a snowballs chance in hell of broadcasting being devolved to Scotland, for it is Westminster’s prime source of propaganda, without it I think Scotland would’ve become independent by now.

Catalonia and a small enclave of Moldova have their own devolved channels.

Of course its timely that this petition has arisen at a time when the BBC has decided to roll back much of the BBC in Scotland, closing studios, letting staff go, and reducing or even removing any Scottish content which is at present at a minimum.

I’ve absolutely no sympathy for Scots working at the BBC in Scotland, the Pacific Quay mob have done the BBC’s and Westminster’s dirty work for them for decades, pumping out propaganda in favour of the union, I couldn’t care less if the BBC HQ bigwigs empty the place out.

The same applies to the misnamed STV who sold Scotland out years ago, it now carries English content entirely, with a few Scottish voice overs inbetween programmes to give off the feeling that somehow its Scottish.

If you wish to actually watch any Scottish content and its usually decades old Taggart, Take the High Road etc, you need to go onto the STV player.

Scottish culture has all but been eroded and replaced with English culture, and most Scots don’t even realise it, or don’t care.

Dan.
Ruby.
Stop it , I am trying seriously to convince the spouse that we could make a pedal go cart for the both of us instead of two single bikes, by combining them together, an that way our old dog could come with us.
While am smiling at both of you’re funny comments the spouse thinks I am joking.:-)

Sensible@12:57

So tell me Sensible – why did neither the Czech Republic nor Republic of Slovakia keep the name Czechoslovakia and claim successor status? What was so different to their circumstances?

Breeks,

Along with many others I think you are one of the best commentators on here, but I disagree that Scotland should accept any of the UK’s debt. The debt has been rung up by Westminster with Scotland’s vast resources at their disposal. Even considering oil and whisky alone, we have contributed billions and billions of pounds to the UK economy, far more per head of the population than any other part of the UK. If anything we are due reparations!

Besides which, accepting any of the UK’s debt is not how debt works. Stuart, the great man himself, put it best as follows:

“No, there will be no inherited debt because that’s not how debt works. You can’t just palm it off to someone else against their will. It remains the responsibility of whoever took it out, in this case the UK government.

If the UK government wants to OFFER something in NEGOTIATION in return for Scotland taking on some of its debt, that’s another matter. But as a simple fact of law, Scotland owns absolutely none of that debt. Not one penny. You can whine about that as much as you like but it won’t stop being true.”

Cynical H , bridges are hinting it’s a prog about the £600,000 missing funds which the lying beeb have put together, are we going to be disappointed or happy with the prog , will there be any reveals or will it just be the usual bait for viewers , judging by their avoiding any exposures of sturgeon’s lunatic policies, GRA,HCB, or her continued ignoring of Alex Salmond’s trial outcome to continue to SMEAR him , or revealing the redactions in the judicial review and who done them , I think we will face the usual disappointment

@cynicalHighlander (5.34) –

Cheers for update. Was wondering what it could be.

If twathater (6.09) is right and it’s just another fig-leaf for the Murrells, great – they’ve already built up a lengthy rap sheet but the more items on it the better. Wark and Garivelli both dug big holes for themselves – if someone else wants to join them, fair enough. It’ll all go on the record.

James Che. says:
10 June, 2021 at 3:51 pm
Dan.
Ruby.
Stop it , I am trying seriously to convince the spouse that we could make a pedal go cart for the both of us instead of two single bikes, by combining them together, an that way our old dog could come with us.

Reply
Sounds like a good idea!
link to tinyurl.com

Will your wife get a ‘backie’ or will she be the one doing the pedalling?

Friend bought a very fancy go cart for her old dog who has really bad arthritis.

Dog refuses to ride in the cart!

“I find Nicola Sturgeon utterly disgusting. She is a corrupt, conceited, self serving grifter taking the absolute piss out the Yes Movement and an embarrassment to Scotland who’s tenure as Scottish First Minister cannot come to an end soon enough.”

Breeks @4.21pm.

Yes all very true, as for the above we know this, but there’s a helluva lot of Scots that don’t know what’s going on. They haven’t spent anytime looking into what Sturgeon has done, nor have they bothered to check out the likes of Stu’s blog, or Craig Murray’s blog, they take Sturgeon at face value, mainly because the unionist media doesn’t report any of it.

Craig Murray and Stu Campbell are persona non grata on the unionist mainstream media. Covid has also worked against those in the know, but, for Sturgeon and her daily briefings, it gave her a false air of credibility, and a fair chunk of popularity with the Scottish public.

What can we do, I’ve said of late that the AUOB should switch from a happy clappy bagpipe playing flag waving tourist attraction, to a pro-active demo movement, that needs to pressurise Sturgeon at Holyrood and Bute House, or when she decides to go walkabouts in Scotland waving and smiling at the public.

I’m not talking about tens of thousands of folk doing it, I’d prefer a small hardcore indy group of folk who can move swiftly (a couple of minibuses) to be in place when they get word of where Sturgeon is going to be.

Placards would be the order of the day with questions such as keep your promise and name an referendum date, or show us the ringfenced indy money etc. These tactics could in theory be carried out for a long time, and they’d surely get on Sturgeon’s nerves, and keep independence in the limelight.

I found it very interesting to read that the Tories, and the Lib/Dems want to partition Scotland, the borders and Shetland and Orkney, because these places voted for the Lib/Dems and the Tories, and they should be ripped from Scotland’s grasp on independence.

So in their deluded minds anywhere that votes for a unionist party in Scotland and not an indy party, could be partitioned off and kept by the UK.

But then this shouldn’t surprise us all one little bit, the British government partitioned/divided up much of the Middle East using straight lines then there was the Sykes-Picot lines, though they had help with that one. The British also had a hand in the partitioning of India, and Northern Ireland, for the people of the Chagossian islands though, they went one step further, the British government had the islanders intimidated and threatened, they had their livestock and pet dogs killed, and eventually they forced the Chagossian folk from their homes forever, to allow a US airbase to take over the islands.

Partitioning is a dirty tool of Westminster, and if you think it won’t happen in this day and age to Scotland on independence, you’d do well to remember that Westminster with the queens consent moved the Scottish sea boundary and stole 6,000 miles of Scottish waters at the stroke of a pen, now when you look out at Carnoustie in Scotland, you’re looking at English water and not Scottish waters.

@ ROS

This twitter account doesn’t appear to be active anymore but is worth a scroll down the feed for examples of “Great” British behaviour.

link to twitter.com

Ruby 10 June, 2021 at 10:53 am

“What Natalie McGarry knew or didn’t know about Alex Salmond is not all that interestin”

Of course its interesting because she says she told Sturgeons staff about Salmonds antics yet Sturgeon told Parliament and Scotland she knew of no previous talk of Salmonds behaviour , someone is Lying and lying to Parliament by an FM means resigning.”

“What I found interesting was that she said she hates the SNP.
Could she have some other bits of info that she could spill? Would anyone believe her?”

Everybody wouldn’t beleive Her but a whole lot of popel would because she is after all the neice of Ex SNP MSP Tricia Marwick

Republicofscotland 10 June, 2021 at 7:37 pm

Here is your Sea Border , just as it always was Suckers.

link to marine.gov.scot

“robertknight says:

So tell me Sensible – why did neither the Czech Republic nor Republic of Slovakia keep the name Czechoslovakia and claim successor status? What was so different to their circumstances?”

At the risk of answering for Sensible… the clue is in the name: Czechoslovakia was formed in the early part of the last century as a combination of two areas, inhabited by Czechs & Slovaks. When they demerged, reverting to countries of similar area, separately inhabited by Czechs & Slovaks, then Czech and Slovak Republic made more sense to them than either one remaining Czechoslovakia… this was the Velvet Divorce.

Imagining a future demerger of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland: the word “Scotland” occurs nowhere in the full Sunday name of that country, which is one of the major differences; another being relative population size.

You’d have a point if the UK was called AngleScot. But it isn’t.

It’s like the bucking Don & Dan Show on here.

I haven’t posted this link for awhile, and it came to my mind when Dan posted Craig Murray’s excellent article on the stealing of Scottish waters by Westminster in collusion with the queen.

Feel the love for Scots here.

link to twitter.com

Republicofscotland says:
10 June, 2021 at 7:52 pm
Dan @7.47pm.

“Nice one Dan, I haven’t read that one of Craig’s in a while.”

Its hilarious isn’t it ?
link to marine.gov.scot

Of course if your incapable of being able to understand what that link actually shows all you need to do is to send an email to ask if Seas were “Stolen” or not and that would clear the issue up and show you how Craig Murray is taking the mick once and for all.
But I think your likely too feart of the real truth.
link to marine.gov.scot

wull says:
10 June, 2021 at 8:11 pm
“People are posting about partition.”

Including a now Tory, formerly SNP councillor in Dumfries and Galloway – and he isn’t the first to suggest it here.

Napier @7:48

“You’d have a point if the UK was called AngleScot. But it isn’t.”

As would you/he, if it weren’t for the same logic applying to England.

The Kingdom of England, which as we all know has included Wales since 1536/42, likewise makes no appearance in either “United Kingdom” or “Great Britain”, so how can the Kingdom of England & Northern Ireland, post the Kingdom of Scotland reverting to an independent state, refer to itself as either the UK or GB?

Simples… it can’t.

It looks like The School has some competition! 😉

If planners did 10 pints of Carlsberg…

link to twitter.com

Sturgeon has already stated, in parliament, that she welcomes, and is preparing for, the vaccination of children in Scotland.

Here’s what that will look like:

link to twitter.com

“robertknight says:
10 June, 2021 at 9:30 pm
Napier @7:48

“You’d have a point if the UK was called AngleScot. But it isn’t.”

As would you/he, if it weren’t for the same logic applying to England.

Simples… it can’t.”

Almost there, follow the naming logic a little bit further…

a) Czechoslovakia splitting into successor Czechoslovakia and new state Slovakia: would not be sensible due to confusion in composite and new state names.
b) Hypothetical AngleScot splitting into successor AngleScot and new state Scotland: would not be sensible for same reason.

but…

1) Canada splitting into successor Canada and new state Quebec: fine
2) Australia splitting into successor state Australia and new state Tasmania: no problem
3) USA splitting into successor state USA and new state Texas: works too
4) UK splitting into successor state UK and new state Scotland: absolutely OK

On the question of how could the state refer to itself as UK post independence: very easily – firstly remember that the “U” in “UK” is not related to Scotland – United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Name could stay that way, or maybe United Kingdom of Britain & Northern Ireland. Their call.

But the key point is that the successor state can retain the name if they want to – it’s their choice, and no external nation can prevent that. Alternatively they could change it if they wish, subject to no objections from other countries with similar names – and bear in mind that there aren’t a whole lot of helpful ISO 3166 two & three letter codes left.

As an aside, I reckon iScotland would be best asking for AB & ABA for Alba, while being known as Scotland.

There would be bigger fish to fry during negotiations than the other country’s name. Unless Scotland particularly wants to spend several decades as the Republic of North Caledonia while waiting to get into the UN.

Robert 5.09

You “So tell me Sensible – why did neither the Czech Republic nor Republic of Slovakia keep the name Czechoslovakia and claim successor status?”

Oh dear, the Stockholm Syndrome Variant is strong with this one.

The UK (after Scotland has left (if it ever does)), would call itself whatever it wants – simply because it can – dimwit. It certainly wouldn’t worry about your weird obsession to dictate what a country that you are not part of, calls itself.

Go get that therapy Robert. Try to understand why you seek to dictate what I call my country (clues: unhealthy dislike of particular nationalities, grievance culture, obsessions, illogical thinking, attention seeking, narcissism).

If, after that 1707 United Kingdom has ceased to exist, England wants to ”self ID”, as the United Kingdom….”

” By all means England, go ahead and make a new Treaty of Union with Wales and call yourself another United Kingdom, but understand that will be a Sevco United Kingdom, a NEW 2021 (or whenever) state, not a Continuer State of the 1707 United Kingdom.”

LOL Breeks , brilliant .

How about ” The Damned United Kingdom of Windsorland ” ?

Brian Clough could replace auld Geordie as the patron saint and John Bullshit as national symbol

Robert Hughes 8.20am

You wrote “How about ” The Damned United Kingdom of Windsorland ”?

Ok, so it appears that it is ok to disrespect other countries on here. So after Independence, is Scotland going to change its name Brokeland?

I may have mentioned that I have read on these pages that folk agree that the Scottish Government is totally corrupt, The First Minister of the country and her senior Ministers are totally corrupt, the judiciary is totally corrupt and the Police force is totally corrupt.

In addition, I am also told here that around half of the Scotland’s citizens are anti-Scottish, disloyal, hooligan half wits?

… not the ideal characterisation of a country from its most ardent supporters? Hey Ho, I am sure you know best.

Sensibledave,
“ So after Independence, is Scotland going to change its name Brokeland?”

You really shouldn’t take Don’s comments seriously, it’s not a good look.

” think “

Had to smile last night listening to the big balloon balls that Boris Johnson has.

After all of the choreographed stuff with President Biden and the assuring words about protecting the Good Friday Agreement and working with Ireland and Europe ( and the US!) our big man then went on in a later solo press interview to pay tribute to Belfast and its place in the United Kingdom.

And at a stroke our man declared no surrender and fuck you Mr, island of Ireland supporting , President.

Big balls indeed is our Boris, telling the President and the EU to fuck right off.

Can someone explain the stooshie about teams taking or not taking `the knee`,

seems like another mess that the white, privileged, uni educated, permanently offended, woke have dragged society into.

Well todays the day, that the Euros get underway, in a recent friendly England’s national football team were booed by their own fans for taking a knee against racism. It would appear that, that incident has frightened the horses at the SFA’s HQ, and Scotland player will not be taking a knee against racism.

In a recent YouGov poll (though YouGov polls are in my opinion suspect) 49% of Scots backed taking a knee, and a staggering 42% did not.

Republicofscotland 11 June, 2021 at 10:04 am

“It would appear that, that incident has frightened the horses at the SFA’s HQ, and Scotland player will not be taking a knee against racism.
In a recent YouGov poll (though YouGov polls are in my opinion suspect) 49% of Scots backed taking a knee, and a staggering 42% did not.”

Quite right too, Football and other sports should stop getting on their knees for what is no more than an policitcal activist group and nothing more. Keep politics OUT of sport altogether for good.

Sensible Dave says:
11 June, 2021 at 8:51 am
‘I may have mentioned that I have read on these pages that folk agree that the Scottish Government is totally corrupt, The First Minister of the country and her senior Ministers are totally corrupt, the judiciary is totally corrupt and the Police force is totally corrupt.

In addition, I am also told here that around half of the Scotland’s citizens are anti-Scottish, disloyal, hooligan half wits?

… not the ideal characterisation of a country from its most ardent supporters? Hey Ho, I am sure you know best.’

The corruption of the current government has no bearing on the long term prospects of our nation. Short term yes, its a problem to be dealt with and I believe it should be dealt with harshly.

As for the disloyal hooligan halfwits, it is quite a tricky situation to deal with though there is more to it than simply loyalty to Britain or loyalty to Scotland. The Scottish independence movement pisses me off with its general fawning over every progressive cause, no matter how obviously stupid, and the massive preferences shown to everyone who isn’t your basic heterosexual Scot as a purely virtue signalling exercise showcasing the ‘look at us, we are so nice’ misguided pride.

Then there really is the anti-English side of things. Certain characters who try to advertise their own blogs on this one fall entirely into that category judging from what ive seen on social media.

The boorish mindlessness of the British loyalist thugs is goaded by the uppity mindlessness of the Scottish indy types, many of whom are no clearer thinkers and about as bigoted in their own special progressive way.

This chalk and cheese situation keeps us perfectly divided. It will only get worse as other peoples with their own sectarian problems are continually introduced into our country.

Scotland doesn’t have a nationalist movement in my opinion because what the bulk of Scottish Indy supporters seem to be advocating for is a Scotland that is run by international unions that will place decision making even further from normal Scots.

The unionists I have known and been friendly with are reacting to these multiple levels of unnecessary bullshit on top of their own ingrained loyalty to Britishness.

Scotland needs a nationalist movement that is utterly ruthless, within the law, in its pursuit of Scottish sovereignty and its defense of the Scots (note that this is different from ‘the people of Scotland’) from economic, propagandistic, educational and all other forms of force or coersion and this extends to all Scots regardless of loyalties.

A Scottish Independence movement that functions powerfully outside of politics as well as obviously seeking power within the political world coupled with a friendly hand extended to our English neighbours and visitors could give us victories in the realms of law, business, cultural awareness and a general sense of self worth that I know would be more appealing to our Unionist countrymen than the weak, limp wristed, mindless, uppity progressiveness on display now.

The one problem with that can be best explained by a thought when a year or so ago I found someone saying: ‘What Scotland needs to lead us is a leader who can be a total bastard’

To which I found myself thinking: ‘A total bastard in the current Scottish independence movement is a white man who leaves the toilet seat up and doesn’t display mild regret every day for breathing while being white and male.’

The Unionists are not wrong to be unimpressed.

Breeks 11 June, 2021 at 7:03 am

“You have to wonder whether the UK Government is a rogue government which cannot be trusted to keep its word….”

LOL I hope you don’t expect to be taken at all seriously ?
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Scot Finlayson says:
11 June, 2021 at 9:47 am
Can someone explain the stooshie about teams taking or not taking `the knee`,

seems like another mess that the white, privileged, uni educated, permanently offended, woke have dragged society into.

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Any talk of players wearing a suffragette ribbon?

I’m guessing that would be seen as transphobic.

Players taking the knee seen as ‘white lives don’t matter’?

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bloody or tarry stools,
coughing up blood,
vomit that looks like coffee grounds,
fever lasting over 3 days, and
swelling or pain lasting over 10 days

@J.o.e. (10.22) –

Hear hear.

A properly unifying cause should be the protection of our own weans.

Parents have to sign consent forms if a school authority so much as plans to take them to the local park. The parent/guardian has to be given details of where, when, what will be happening etc.

Likewise, the consent for this jag has to be ‘informed’ otherwise anyone involved in administering it is complicit in a criminal assault. That’s about as basic as it gets.

So, what kind of ‘information pack’ will parents be given prior to their signature being sought? Will they see anything in writing or is it just assumed that everyone will comply?

How many Scots have ever heard the word ‘Ivermectin’?

How many Scots know – even roughly – the confirmed fatalities as a direct result of the jag (esp AZ)?

There is no medical justification for children being ‘vaccinated’ against this bug. It must not be allowed to happen.

For some folk the ‘hill to die on’ is GC rights, for others it’s Independence. But this cause is surely more important than both – who wants an independent Scotland where a hefty % of the population is crippled with all sorts of long-term neurological problems and another demographic is effectively shunned as undesirables? It’s already happening FFS.

I wonder what rank Dave is.
Captain, hopefully.
🙂

Scot Finlayson

Also at American sporting events everybody, and I mean everybody, on the field and in the arena or stadium is expected to stand for the national anthem when it is played before the start of a game. This applies down to college level sports at least. Also there’s usually a parade of the flag with the military or some para-military organisation involved. Kneeling at this is a giant F*** You! to the establishment.

Since everything that happens in the good old USA must be good for the rest of the world the idea has spread but only after it was sanitised into a “Against Racism” protest – which ostensibly it was but it was major affront to American sensibilities when it first happened, especially when it was done by one of those uppity minorities who clearly didn’t know their place – go search for the reaction of the National Football League and the team owners when it happened.

So Breeks is right. It loses it’s impact when everybody does it and the real meaning gets lost. Just another platitude to avoid having to make actual change.

Sensible D . I was neither hurt nor offended by your comment : glad you weren’t by mine . * thumbs up *

So Ruby. You’re now a spokes person for the Pharmaceutical Industry? Who knew?

Ruby,
The whole point is that we are NOT able to weigh up the risks because of suppression of information.
Added to that is the train of thought amongst the totalitarian elements of our society that people should be forced to take a vaccine that they do not trust.

I think too, we need to remember there is actually graphic symbolism to the act of kneeling, given the killing of George Floyd, arrested in Minneapolis where one of the arresting officers knelt on his windpipe and killed him, despite Floyd’s audible protests that he couldn’t breathe.

Sensibledave,
This site has never been an echo chamber. There are years of feisty debate btl to prove that.

Of course, there are people who don’t wish to debate here and would like people such as yourself banned merely for disagreeing with them but you may or may not remember that me and people like me thought otherwise, as did Stuart.

Aye Donny boy

I understand what it means.

Take in loads of cash in tax receipts. Give a little back (budgets) and spend the rest on shit.

Ah Dave lad. We know all about you English types. LMAO

You wouldn’t be angry Frank by any chance?

link to bing.com

Sensible D .

Breastplate gave the response to your comment to me I would have made myself .

WOS has never been an echo chamber , alas too many pro-Indy sites are , hence the impasse the movement finds itself in , with – possibly – the majority of * pros * unable or unwilling to acknowledge the damage N Sturgeon is inflicting not only on the cause but to the country also .

None so blind …….

As a matter of interest …..has your reading and commenting here for years given you a better understanding of the feelings, thoughts and arguments that inform our desire for Independence ?

Sensible Dave,
I agree that you should have a voice, I have always thought that the opposition of another voice gives the independence movement a clearer head and brings discussions to the table Scots would otherwise skim over, it helps focus the independence movement when they get offended by the likes of ( Don)comments or occasionally your own stray comment such as calling people on this site loonies or people blessed with small brains,
The slurs and derogatory comments offend us enough for those here with knowledge to share those links with other people, educating some Scots that may have been sleep walking rather than having small brains, indeed a timely wake up call and often thanks to verbal abuse thrown out by unionists voices,
There has been a wide array of important topics and historical facts discussed here on Rev stu’s site over the years, and recently, that we may never have looked at in our busy life’s if it hadn’t been for the mud slinging,
To all those whom are fighting Scotland’s independence by contributing insults to the independence movement, may I say thank you for keeping us on our toes, encouraging us to share knowledge and supporting each other, sharing links, having a laugh occasionally and helping us in building a stronger concenus and community spirit here in Scotland.
In the future I could see the population of Scotland whom have had their eyes opened with regards the snp and ousting her in an unfamiliar fashion to political etiquette,
Yours and others whom have similar views [ For ] the Scots are indeed helpful.

@Stuart Mackay

Looks like Elon Musk style promotion of unworkable vaporware has arrived in Scotland.

FAO DON…

G.E.R.S as its originator, Ian Lang intended it to be, is a fabricated Unionist deception and gerrymandering of Scotland’s fiscal reality.

‘If we look back as far as reliable historical figures for Scotland’s revenues and expenditure go, we can see that in 1980-81, before the UK debt started to spiral, Scotland was charged £3bn to service the UK debt. Despite that, it managed to record a surplus of more than £1bn.368 Indeed, using GERS, Scotland’s finances showed a surplus until 1990, when the cumulative surplus amounted to £38.8bn (£74bn surplus without debt loading)’. (Bus. for Scotland).

Guess what? Lang introduced G.E.R.S.in the following two years..I wonder why? Oh, that’s right, he told us why….
“I judge that [GERS] is just what is needed at present in our campaign to maintain the initiative and UNDERMINE the other parties. This initiative could score against all of them.”

You can’t use GERS as an argument against independence. Scotland
is allocated ‘Estimated’ costs as part of the UK’S expenditure. Allocating interest charges on debt that Scotland did not and cannot legally generate, allows GERS to show a deficit. GERS assumes that those surpluses disappeared into thin air, and that could not have happened. It is an undeniable fact that in an independent Scotland those surpluses would either have been invested to grow Scotland’s economy or possibly put into a sovereign wealth fund for the future benefit of our nation, as Norway has done.

Explain why Norway with 3% less oil revenue accrued has a Sovereign fund of £1.3 billion, whereas the UK has a debt of £1 TRILLION!
A UK Government, which alone borrows and controls all economic levers for the whole UK is solely responsible for this disaster. Anyone who has lived through the past forty years of boom, bust and austerity under successive Unionist UK governments cannot misunderstand this unless terminally stupid or in your case, terminally dishonest,

Scotland is paying England’s debt interest. It started in 1707 when England’s debt was £14 million the equivalent of £1.5 BILLION. We are still doing this and liars and dissemblers like you keep repeating the lie.

Dennis Healey, former Chancellor, admitted as much in the following quotes:

‘World events do not occur by accident. They are made to happen, whether it is to do with national issues or commerce; and most of them are staged and managed by those who hold the purse strings.'(England)

Denis Healey, again:
‘Scotland “pays its fair share” and that “these myths” are simply perpetuated by those that oppose independence”. And that “Scotland’s oil wealth had been squandered by Westminster rather than invested, while being underplayed (in value terms) by the UK government to subdue calls for Scottish independence”.

I see our esteemed First Minister has praised the Scottish football squad for deciding they will “take a knee” before the game against England at Wembley.

How typical, she’s all for gesture politics, but not so good at doing her job and getting us Independence.

Taking a knee will not make a blind bit of difference, and the rabid Fascists int he England support will still boo the gesture.

The fact England is doing it is, to me, all the more reason for Scotland not to.

some articles of general interest

“celebrating” the guardian, which has been a shitty rag for a very, very long time
link to dissidentvoice.org

– quality gatekeeping, explained
link to dissidentvoice.org
note how “human rights” and “humanitarianism” becomes a cover for blowing the shit out of brown people and generally wrecking anything you don’t like.

where did the virus come from (- and why is the previously ridiculed “conspiracy theory” aka the Lab Leak hypothesis, now the mainstream)
link to unz.com
if you wait long enough, you realise every conspiracy theory is actually true; they are now wanting to vaccinate the little kids when only the old and the fat (plus pre-existing ill health) are at risk from covid
link to unz.com

– don’t worry about unz being a “far right neo nazi jewish white nationalist” as greenwald explains – we are ALL far right these days
link to taibbi.substack.com

rich don’t use PAYE
link to propublica.org
who knew? The dumb public maybe thought the “top rate of income tax” somehow got applied to these guys!

indyref#2 delayed again due to mousepox; curiously, mousepox was one of the first virus that biowarfare experts got interested in.

The UK does not exist.

Go and read the Treaty and stop being an imbecile.

“Socrates MacSporran says:
11 June, 2021 at 4:05 pm
I see our esteemed First Minister has praised the Scottish football squad for deciding they will “take a knee” before the game against England at Wembley.”

Socrates McSporran, yes but they still won’t take a knee at their Hampden games, well according to the press they won’t.

On our esteemed FM, she has no problems on using double standards, praising the Scotland team for taking a knee, whilst trying to prosecute a woman for posting a piccy of a Suffragettes ribbon.

RepublicofScotland

As I keep saying RoS, I am told regularly and often here that The SCottish Government is corrupt, The First Minister and all her Senior Ministers are corrupt, the Scottish Judiciary is corrupt and the Scottish Police are corrupt.

So to parapharase, “why would any nation want to have anything to do with a country whose institutions are so corrupt”???

Republicofscotland 11 June, 2021 at 4:39 pm

“So Perfidious Albion aka Westminster sent an aircraft carrier to its closest ally in the Middle East Oman, it has a naval base there at Duqm, and GCHQ has three not so secret listing stations there as well.

“Police” in the country have been putting down demonstrations and marches as the people of the country as fed up with corruption, and mass unemployment, all political parties are banned, and the UK is selling the authorities billions of pounds worth of arms to suppress the people.

The Sultan of Oman rules with absolute power, and Westminster are firmly behind this despot. Oman is a hive of British secret activities, and they turn a blind eye to violence against its people whilst supplying the despot led regime with billions of pounds of armourments.

Like I said why would any nation want to be in a union that supports evil around the world.”

Most likely because as you well know you just made this BS story up yourself inside your own head. I spotted this fantastic oppertunity for you and others here to get properly educated
link to eventbrite.co.uk