How To Punch Women In The Face
(And Get Away With It)
You’d have to be living in a pretty strict prison not to have heard the big story from today’s Olympics in Paris, in which male Algerian cheat Imane Khelefi was put in a boxing ring with young Italian woman Angela Carini and allowed to hit her in the head for 46 seconds until she retired, in tears and in fear for her safety, saying “I had to preserve my life”.
Sound like your kind of fun, men? It’s surprisingly easy!
Because if you too are a bloke who’d like to punch women in the face and not only get away with it but be cheered on like some sort of hero by world sporting authorities and “progressive” politicians (and, obviously, Billy Bragg), you’re only 55 quid away.
Khelif, who is visibly and obviously male, was disqualified in 2023 by the International Boxing Association for twice failing medical gender tests.
Khelif didn’t even bother to appeal the IBA’s decision, but the International Olympic Committee ignored it, and permitted him to enter the women’s boxing competition on the basis of… his passport.
So how hard is it to get a passport in the opposite gender? This hard:
You don’t even need a Gender Recognition Certificate. A simple letter from a “medical consultant” will do. But at least these letters are hard to get, right?
Nope. Just slip crooked, reckless, struck-off former GP Helen Webberley 55 quid and she’ll sort you out the second your payment clears.
(She still counts as a “medical consultant”, because that term means nothing.)
And that’s it. You’re all done. Send your £55 letter off to the Passport Office and you’re officially a female as far as the IOC is concerned.
Just send them your new passport and you can trot along to the Olympics, pop some gloves on, and start battering women around the head as hard as you like, and not only will you NOT be hauled off by the police and put in jail like some sort of chump, they’ll quite literally give you a medal for it.
Have fun, lads!
Disgraceful. If sex testing via a buccal swab is considered intrusive and unnecessary then we might as well stop drugs testing aswell because if a person says they’re not doping, then they’re not. That’s how it works, isn’t it?
This particular issue can be easily fixed by changing the weight division requirements for woman and Trans.
When that happens and the Trans have to compete on an equal basis with woman who are in the same weight division as them then you won’t be seeing any Trans competing in woman’s boxing.
This is more complex than I thought. This Algerian boxers, in fact, a biological woman with a rare condition that gives her elevated testosterone levels. She LOOKS male, has male strength but is female.I was thinking “trans” but I was wrong.A rare example.
“This is more complex than I thought. This Algerian boxers, in fact, a biological woman with a rare condition that gives her elevated testosterone levels. She LOOKS male, has male strength but is female.”
No he fucking isn’t. What’s your source for that pish?
I hope this story makes Khelif infamous, destroys everyone in every International Olympic Committee, and stops men being able to punch women with impunity.
Still glad I pay a tiny bit of your wages.
I found this tweet:
link to x.com
If as the tweet is correct that Imane Khelif is female and suffering from hyperandrogenism, she is suffering from high levels of testosterone that gives her an unfair advantage against females of a similar boxing weight division.
And I’m trying to get my grand daughters into sport when this pish is happening
We are living in a dystopian nightmare. JKR refused to vote Labour. She did not give them a penny. She told the truth about what is behind much of this: it is a men’s rights movement; but it is also allied to a men’s sexual rights movement. That man looks just like – a man. People with DSDs are always either male or female. They are not ‘trans’ and the males are not females. Their chromosomal identity is either male or female, and it appears that this person was identified as male at the chromosomal level, so his testosterone level was neither here nor there because he had already had the full advantage of a male puberty, with increased muscle mass, bone density, lung capacity, etc.
There can be no doubt now that the ‘trans’ movement has claimed those with DSDs to be ‘trans’ because of the advantages which this bestows on them, at least the males, that is. The Olympic Committee will ban any athlete who has a minuscule amount of some banned substance in his or her bloodstream, but patently obvious men larping as women are just dandy. Never would a flyweight boxer be pitted against a heavyweight, but pitting a woman with less than half the male strength against a man is just dandy.
This man, even if he had been classed as a female originally, would have undergone male puberty – and, more to the point, he would have known that he was male. Caster Semenya certainly knew. The real fault lies with the sporting bodies of the countries of these men, who also know what they are doing.
I await the day when a great, hairy nether-regioned, hairy-legged, six-foot four man in a wee tennis dress and undershorts clumps on to the Wimbledon court to take on one of the wee lassies and knocks her into next week with volleys of 120. What is it going to take to end this misery for women and girls and turn the world the right way up again?
I wish I could say that these larping men are just delusional, but the celebrations when that cheat won tells its own story: it is quite deliberate and it is aimed at pushing all females out of all public spaces, sports, services, etc. Oh, and, of course, there the added bonus of flitting around the female changing facilities, watching the women and girls, because some of them are only fourteen or fifteen. In other circumstances, you would be arrested, but the ‘special ones’ avoid all scrutiny and sanction.
Women athletes – I mean REAL women athletes need to take a stand, it has to begin somewhere – so why not at these Olympic Games. I felt sorry for that Italian woman boxer who has trained hard – and made sacrifices to be at the Olympics, only to be robbed of any chance of victory by a man who the IOC see a as woman
The IOC is an utter disgrace – not just for allowing men, and they are men to pretend to be women and compete against them – in which the women will lose against bigger, stronger, faster men – but for allowing a country that’s committing jen0ci-de to compete at the 2024 Olympic Games.
This is the real life version of Ladyballers.
Pacman: his penis is visible through his shorts. I think he might have had a small, not completely formed penis which was put down to being a vagina with an enlarged clitoris, as is often the case with DSDs (inter-sex, so-called).
However, at around the age of 11/12, he would have begun to show tiny signs of masculinity, increasing toward 13/14 when puberty would have set in properly. Because he would have had internal testes, he would have produced testosterone and that would have liked to vast changes in his body to full masculinity at the chromosomal level, proving he is male.
I do feel sympathy for people with DSDs, but that goes the moment they use, knowingly, their masculinity to gain an advantage. The fact that he has a penis would suggest that his genitalia have changed from vaguely female to visibly male. This often happens with DSD males.
Caster Semenya used to wear long sports vests when running, and always over his shorts, not tucked in as the female runners tucked their sports vests into their running shorts to cut down wind drag. He also went on to have children, who, if they are his, means that he has a functioning penis.
No way do the Algerian sporting authorities not know this is a man. No way does the IOC not know this is a man. ‘Trans’ has nothing to do with it except that the ‘trans’ movement has taken people with DSDs under its umbrella.
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@ Lorna Campbell
There also doesn’t seem to be much respect from these Trans athletes towards their female competitors:
link to archive.is
@ Lorna Campbell
It’s obvious that Khelif is a man. You can see that with his physical build and facial structure which is very masculine in shape.
There is also his demeanor, the arrogant strutting. I’ve never seen a woman in my whole life who is able to do that convincingly.
With my previous posts, I am using the same logic as those who support the Trans ideology. In doing so, I am highlighting the flaws of their arguments in a way that they can’t shoot them down with accusations of Transphobia.
While this site allows freedom of expression, many others doesn’t and you have to play by their rules. This is intentional as to restrict debate in their favour but it doesn’t mean that you can’t win some arguments if you know how and are sometimes lucky.
Interesting genuine misogyny from the Algerian male commentators. Algeria is a 98% Muslim country. As we know, Islam is no admirer of women. As for Billy Bragg comparing objecting to a woman being punched in the head to rioters over the Southport stabbings. Well that obnoxious, hyper-holier-than-thou-bragging cunt has been the absolute epitome of venal, Guardian-guzzling, English middle class phony sanctimony since the 80s, and every word that comes out of his mouth is pure unadulterated shit. Same as it ever was, and always will be.
As a former runner who competed for over 30 years and accepted being beat by more athletic males and females in Open races, this just stinks. I no longer view the Olympics as fair or valid. They have dropped off a cliff now.
The worlds gone mad since a sector of society pried open Pandora’s box of lunacy.
Maybe the humiliation spectacle is the point of the Olympics.
a powerlifter in the US done that just to beat a new “Female world Record” – the current holder being an Ex-Man – he got soooo pissed about that that it made me nearly laugh my bollox off.
I think that this way we could stop this shit from happening – if someone like Tysons build went “female” that would be fun to watch – then when he gets through to the final against a woman (after beating up all the pretendy Women along the way) he just throws in the towel straight after the bell……BAAAAAMMM! Real woman wins!
“Go, Strong Woman, Go.”
obviously a prime concern at least in relation to stabbed up kids and rioting …
it wasn’t exactly raging bull now was it?
link to youtube.com
– she takes a pop in the face and then just shites it. that was it. Sums up a lot of things. I would have had some respect for her if she had a go and took a KO.
olympic boxing is play acting and tea with the vicar anyway – amateurs use heavier gloves for safety and headguards. 3 rounds, not 10 or 12 or 15.
there is horror to be had –
link to mirror.co.uk
link to thesun.co.uk
I basically decided the Olympics was over when I saw the vomit-inducing opening ceremony.
Anyway, I’m officially raising the alert level in the Middle East… we are now at Defcon Popcorn. For those of you unfamiliar with how these things work, that means we are basically one step away from the highest level, Defcon Kiss Your Ass Goodbye.
May God have mercy on your souls… something like that.
I know it’ll be a HUGE sacrifice but biological women need to walk away. Leave this organisation & all of its depravity & start their own games. It’s beyond embarrassing what the Olympic games have become. It’s a joke.
I know they’ve trained for years. I know it’s sponsorship deals & ambassadors for their sport, yadda, yadda but they’ll
be HUGE Olympians in the eyes of the world to *take one for the team* on behalf of women & girls everywhere.
It’s a lot to ask but once women no longer participate then these depraved thugs will only have other depraved thugs to compete with & the Olympics will die under the embarrassment of being a complete farce.
You can hear Signorina Carini say over and over from around 1.18 “non è giusto” i.e. it’s not fair. Very simple Italian. Unfairness is soul-destroying. She will never get over it.
I have absolutely no interest in the Olympics.
Men being allowed to fight women is one thing. The sick and offensive opening ceremony another. And then of course the utterly political sanctioning of countries like Russia and Belarusia disbarred.
Time to stick the whole pile of shite. Olympic flame, Olympic Torch, Olympic Ideal. Pure pish.
I can’t get excited about having to support Team GB, cause Scotland has no team. I can’t even be bothered with the Scottish athletes. As I know any victory is claimed for England. Then that flag,and anthem come out.
Then there are men beating up women on tv. The whole thing is farcical.
Aye & lest we forget war criminals & geno-cide cheerleaders are allowed to compete & R is not because …ummm, they’re very, very bad people.
IMHO, this agenda is being pushed by the secret rulers of the world.
The heads of the IOC, WHO and almost all other international organisations and most leaders of the western “democratic” countries are in their pockets and can be blackmailed at any time if they dare to disagree.
I am no fan of hers, but how long will it be before J.K. Rowling’s reputation is completely destroyed based on some false allegations?
Financial fraud?
Bullying her staff?
Discrimination?
Despite her money, they will get her in the end.
The Rev. Stuart Campbell is equally, if not more, vocal against men pretending to be women for nefarious purposes, but hopefully he will not be in their sights, yet.
Geri
Come on ladies, perk up and cock up yer beavers.
My only suprise is they haven’t thrown him off of a tall building in Algeria. I wonder if he’s based and lives in Europe?
What an embarrassment for the French Olympics. We’ve got to be kind to these people remember.
We’ve got to check our privilege. You see rainbow flags everywhere you go in your work.
Meanwhile. Your community is turning black and brown, as the working class men you once loved. Commit suicide after being deamomised since birth.
Let John Swinney explain, with the SNPs pro-pornography curriculum in schools. Gender neutral toilets.
There’s real sickness going on out there. You have to hear it first hand.
Our country needs to restore Christian values. And with that comes racial tolerance. The more I read the Bible the more I realise that our country is divided because we’ve lost god from our lives.
Italy is home of the Pope. It’s a good Catholic country. I absolutely expect there to be massive scale outrage in the Holy City over this.
Catholic Italy. I stand with you.
The French have lost their way. We know Algeria is a Muslim country. They love to smack their women about that’s the message I’m getting from that.
We need JK Rowling. Scotland’s English heroin to say something about it.
It’s the worst Olympics that’s ever taken place. Ever since the Opening ceremony. Where they mocked Jesus. Christians are fair game to mock. And women are fair game for a good seeing to. And a smack around the jaw.
The French have just voted in the far left to stop the far right. A completely divided third world country. With terrorism lurking around every street corner.
A Muslim take over of France. Women’s jaws. And Christians beware.
Remind the violent Algerian fighting age male that they’ve got a word in their language for men like him.
HARAM
Geri
Ignored
says:
2 August, 2024 at 1:18 am
Aye & lest we forget war criminals & geno-cide cheerleaders are allowed to compete & R is not because …ummm, they’re very, very bad people.
And the gold medal for jaw dropping hypocrisy goes to… the IOC…
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Ah, this explains the pastel light blue and pink used for the signage at various events. So, is 2028, in progressive LA, going to be the first trans-olympics where women are told simply not to bother showing up? It’s likely worth keeping an eye on the university teams in the USA to see whether it’s likely or not. I doubt a ginger-haired clown in the White House will make much difference.
Any just to annoy Ruby (with apologies to Lorna)…
The Suffragettes fought, bled, and died for the rights women have today. Rights granted, instead of won, just like favours, can be taken away when the need arises. There needs to be a line in the sand and anyone stepping over it needs to have them chopped off – metaphorically speaking. There’s no point being reasonable. it will simply be taken as weakness, which you are already seeing.
Watching a man with male chromosomes beating up a women is akin to the political class beating up Scotland.
Where only Englands politics has made the rule changes advantagious to always ensure for itself in a unfair contest that it comes out the winner.
The comparisons between the two is uncanny
The only difference is Scotland seems to be so colonial punched drunk that they are unable to think of walking away like the Italian lassie did.
A quick reminder for those whom are down the rabbit hole of being mentally punched drunk.
No where, repeat , “No Where” In any of the articles of the treaty of union does it State that Scotland will always need to require a referendum to leave the treaty..
And No Where, repeat No where does it State that “Scots” whom were not invited into the treaty of union ( because they probably have voted “NO” anyway) have to abide or ask for permission from Westminster parliament.
And
No where, repeat ” NO WHERE” does any Article of the treaty of Union state that the Monarch of England, kingdom of England and the laws of England……will (Extended into Scotland).
Scotland and Scottish people is So Colonial Punched drunk that it excepts a illegal changing daily battering of rules made as an a (afterthought by Westminster parliament ) to make only one side win.
Scotlands people, “the Scots not in the treaty of union” , need to legally walk out on the rigged fight to regain a win for their home territory.
Are people starting to realize they are being subjected to a repackaged Cultural Revolution. What do you think it would feel like if not this.
The people who have inflicted this upon our societies need lynched.
I often wonder if the people in England will ever mull over over how, they could regain their Sovereignty of their Country by simply agreeing with Scottish people that the treaty of union is such old 1707 guff and now obsolete that they could and probably would regain their their surrounding Sea borders around England as this would surely return automony back to the people of England, rather than the EU.
A variation and more serious kind of Brexit surely.and a great reset for both Countries in self governance and automony.
This is just my personal muse on how for once, the people in England and the people in Scotland could agree to stop the strong outside influence that has a stranglehold of foreign political policies interfering in both Countries.
Personally I believe It undoubtable has great strength and advantages for the people in both Countries to have that ” Reset” as globalist call it, (perhaps not in the way they had envisaged or planned) , to return the right of self determination and the peoples governance to both Countries,
Immigration,…..that would up to the people within those newly renewed borders……
Just a personal muse on people starting to working together to save both Countries from going under.
Mac.
There is a way to end it, as mentioned above. The people whom inflict this on us would have no more autonomy to continue,
Breeks.
War criminals?
Where would they be without Scotland and England, Ireland and Wales as Great Britain.
Where would they park their threatening nuclear mouth pieces ?
Where would they put all the migrants that we Pay for with our taxes, while Britains people ( England, Ireland, Wales and Scotland, suffer, we are all in fast spiralling financial and infrastructial decline?.
And where would the governance be that allow all these astrosities to happen, be?
The starmers and his like would be gone, a blip in history, but a serious blip that has the ability to change history.
Because the more power crazy they become the more people wake up to realise that Britain is becoming part of a world government they did not vote for.
Reply to PacMan
You’re missing the point. Muslim countries are opposed to homosexuality and many make it easy for gay men to adopt Womanface, in order to make them disappear.
I haven’t a clue what Stuart MacKay is on about but then I never do.
The wokes have gone too far this time. They are taking the big P.
If trans athletes want to compete fairly, then the only option is to have separate male, female, and trans categories in competitive sports. I’m sure someone out there would just love to be the first trans world champion.
I’ve been quite shocked by what I’ve been reading BTL on Wings regarding women’s rights. I’ve reached the conclusion that there are men who are resentful that women are not at home making their tea, cleaning their house and washing their clothes and generally being a good little obedient servant!
What are women gaining from this DE&I ideology?
The right to vote?
Equal pay?
The right to an education?
The right to buy property
The right to police protection against domestic violence?
The right to women only spaces & sports?
Divorce?
How many more women does this Algerian man sponsored by Addidas have to punch before he gets his Gold medal?
Punch a terf! They wanted equality now they’ve got it so they just need to suck it up and know their place.
Give up the sports ladies and go home and do the dishes!
I have a solution – just ban sport – its f*****g boring anyway and is just circuses and bread for the masses.
Stop being a bigot Lorna it’s not a penis it’s a ‘lady dick’ haven’t you got it into your thick head yet
‘Woman have penises’. 🙂
Aye it’s a problem for women to solve. Nothing to do with ‘Addidas’ or anyone sponsoring these athletes and games. It’s all up to women.
I don’t know anything about sport at Olympic level & what it involves and what the implications are for women athletes just giving up.
There have been a lot of suggestion what female athletes should do but what I’m wondering about is what women in other walks of life can do.
I think we could live without spectator sport but could we live without nurses if they just gave up?
What can these nurses who object to getting changed in front of a leering man do can they just walk away?
What if all women went on strike would that still be a woman’s problem to solve?
Are we surplus to requirements?
I don’t think women should be in boxing to begin with.
I remember that Charity boxing match with Helen Skeleton for Sports relief. She knocked seven bells of shite out of Camilla Thurlow who could hardly stand long enough to give an interview of wtf had just happened to her LOL!
Steady one Helen – it was only a charity do.
I also don’t think it’s a sport or worthy of Olympic medals. What exactly is supposed to be .
If they wanna fight then bring back the colosseums. I bet folks would find that more entertaining. Throw in The Hound & a few TRAs & let the games begin.
‘TRA nipple chips. Get ’em while they’re hot. They’re lovely.’
“…just to annoy Ruby”
Why would anyone want to annoy Ruby – she’s a sweetheart?
Besides, she’s always kind to me – even when I’m talking shite.
Best not to annoy her, though…or she’ll take up her pen an gie ye a guid punch in the mooth wi it; an maybe belt ye ower the heid wi it tae.
I’ll do the first line again – properly this time.
Why would anyone want to annoy Ruby? She’s a sweetheart.
Ruby: (not ignored): I was trying to point out that these men with DSDs (and I do feel sorry for them, as I do the women with same, and the female athletes) actually do have penises that do grow at puberty, although, perhaps, not at the rate, etc. of a normal penis. and the internal testes can be brought to the surface by surgery or removed, but they will have produced testosterone already. I would suspect that, in Muslim Algeria, so as not to be shunned or worse, the boxer just accepted his wrongly diagnosed ‘femaleness’ and carried on the farce even though he knows, and has known for a number of years, that he is male.
Likewise, his country knows he is male and the IOC knows he is male. Although those with DSDs were brought under the ‘trans’ umbrella, it is not convenient now for them to claim to be ‘trans’ as ‘trans’ is banned from the Olympics, hence the sneering, thumb-nosing, opening ceremony which was so evidently post structuralist and post modernist, sneering at Western traditional mores across the board. Psychopathic narcissism, not way-out creativity.
I agree with you on the remarks by some of the men on here, but far more telling and dispiriting has been the responses from SNP members who have adopted the line that it is better to shut up about women’s and children’s rights in order to concentrate on independence, allowing the ‘trans’ lobby a free bye. The lack of thinking is so evident when everyone with a brain should know that these people put the ‘trans’ question way above independence and always will. The whole point is to overturn society. Women, for better or worse, usually worse, are the very foundations of every civilized and organized society. Ergo, they have to go first.
That is why they infiltrated the SNP in the first place, and why they will infiltrate any other party or organization that they think will give them a piggy-back to power. That is their goal: naked, unadorned power and totalitarian government which will crush all societal norms and mores, laws and prohibitions, and allow them a total free rein on predation of those ‘weaker’: ie. children, women and girls, gay men and women, animals.
The really smart questions are: why, what is the end result they hope to achieve and who is actually behind it all because, what these people have in the sexual deviance department, they lack in the critical thinking one and they are not the ones who believe they can achieve immortality and ultimate power over our lives? A bit of digging provides the answers, but they will shock and horrify – and frighten you half to death.
Confused @12.04pm.
I never watch the Olympic Games – although there are Scottish athletes competing at the games – they are not competing under our ain Scottish flag, no they are competing under the Union Jack banner – and most disappointingly many of them appear quite pleased to do so.
ONLY THE RASH would dare to be openly homosexual in Algeria or Egypt or Syria or Saudi Arabia mr Bragg but there is a way.
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Ruby Yesterday
In editing for clarity I deleted the main point – doh!
The fight for women’s spaces needs to be fought and won by women. If men get involved then you’ll be forever in their debt and there will be a price to pay.
So, sisters, grow a pair and get on with it. Get men involved if you have to, but always use them as backup, and never let them lead.
Rab Clark @5:52am
I’m flattered that you would consider publishing some of my poetic scribblings on your website, Rab.
I’m not averse to the idea and will indeed give it some thought and respond to you directly and soon.
Lorna Campbell @ 11:10 am
“The really smart questions are: why”
Gender ideology seems merely another form of ‘cultural imperialism’, which is about imposing on peoples/nations ‘a new way of thinking’, new norms and beliefs, and thus behaviours, all based around dubious (immoral) ‘values’, yet supported and imposed by captured social institutions and authorities.
This is therefore another form of oppression, a way to culturally control peoples/nations, reinforced via new draconian laws imposed and designed to punish those people who do not readily ‘assimilate’ into, and/or submit to, what is an alien culture and ideology (e.g. the more ‘mature’ minded and less gullible).
We might therefore view what is happening here as a new and even ‘innovative’ package of ‘colonial procedures’; a ‘colonial hoax’ without doubt scientifically, and a ‘cultural illusion’ for sure, which, as with other forms of colonialism, are at root fascist: i.e. dependent on conformity or, alternatively, non-conformists being subjected to punishment and hence force.
I watched Khelefi land a punch on Carini that was harder than most women would hit & I saw an experienced female boxer realise at that point, her life is at risk if he lands a few more punches like that. Yes, Khelefi has been beaten by women previously because he’s a crap boxer who seems to rely purely on the power he has from being male.
It is true to say he’s not ‘Transgender’ in Algeria as that would land him in jail, but he’s a male & Algeria have taken advantage of his biology to try to land a medal. He is however key to TRAs as if there’s a ‘grey area’ when it comes to sex then there’s a third sex!! Which of course, is nonsense. He’s got a DSD but he’s very much male.
For weeks now campaigners, mainly women, have been protesting the two males in Olympic boxing as well as the rapist in the volleyball but from listening to people yesterday (who only became aware of the issue yesterday and instantly became experts) you’d think these women who’ve spent months protesting are only angry about Khelefi because he’s ‘not white’.
TRAs use the ‘if black women can be classed as women then so can Trans people’ argument all the time. It’s a movement riddled with racism and misogyny yet it’s never made accountable for this by the media, plus yesterday we say ‘progressives’ drooling at the fact a man hit a woman and got away with it. Khelefi is going to fight again (as is the other male boxer previously banned by the IBA) soon & this will blow up again. We live in a time where it’s ‘progressive’ to defend male violence if it means that you’re affirming the feelings of men. I genuinely think if Khelefi puts a woman in hospital these people will blame the woman for not being tough enough and not the man who hit her.
As an aside, I hope those TRAs who’ve spent their time shrieking ‘NAZI’ at women bother to show up when actual neo-Nazis turn up in Scotland next month. I somehow doubt it as previously when the far right has mobilised in Scotland the overwhelming majority of TRAs are as far away from them as possible.
If sex testing via a buccal swab is considered intrusive and unnecessary then we might as well stop drugs testing aswell because if a person says they’re not doping, then they’re not. That’s how it works, isn’t it?
The IOC have TRAs at high levels as seen by the frankly pathetic response to not just this, but the weakness shown not to ban the Dutch rapist. As we know, TRAs are just fine with male violence to women and girls but yes, a return to sex tests would be the easiest thing to do. Especially as we know more and more about DSDs now so we’ll be able to correctly sex most people.
But the TRAs don’t want that. They don’t want to prove an actual fact as it challenges their psudeo-religious beleifs. On the other hand the reaction to the boxing yesterday was overwhelmingly negative & it’s very clear the general public are done with this.
Northcode:
I’m always kind to everyone!
Some folk just don’t recognise that it’s sometimes necessary to be ‘cruel to be kind’.
I remember when you were a newbie and I was the very first person to talk to you!
Senza Nespresso! you’ve just reminded me that it’s well past coffee time.
Time to get my Vertuo out and brew a delicioso Il Caffè.
Il Caffè only comes in the larger pods (Vertuo) it used to come in the original (smaller) size but they stopped making ‘Il Caffè’ in the smaller sized capsule which was unfortunate because I was hooked on Il Caffè. I solved the problem by buying a 2nd machine and that is why I have I have 2 Nespresso machine an original which I use to brew ‘India’ and a Vertuo for Il Caffè.
The original can be used to brew all the Nespresso compatible capsules that you get in the supermarket whereas not the ‘Vertuo’ If it’s decaf you are looking for then the supermarket own brand cheapos are fine ‘cos QFMD all decaf is awful.
@Northcode (12.00) –
Cheers!
😉
I’ve got 7 bloody monikers and none of them are ‘Ruby Yesterday’. If I do decided on an 8th moniker it’ll be ‘Ruby Tomorrow’ and I’ll leave all you ‘Yesterday Men’ in the dust!
Fuckin’ men are involved they are the ones preventing us from having our own women’s spaces.
Did you know ‘transwomen are men’ and the vast majority of politicians opposed to women’s right are men. The companies sponsoring all these men are made up of men.
PS ‘Stuart the Obscure’. What is a woman? Do you think all these women with dicks should be out their fighting for women’s spaces, their rights to punch a terf and get a gold medal for doing it.
Fuck off Rab Clark stop trying to steal our talent! 🙂
Any interest in essays on the franchise? I could recommend someone for that job and TBH you would be doing us all a favour if you recruited him.
He might currently be on the naughty step or maybe he has zero interest in terfs getting punched or maybe unlike PacMan he doesn’t want to reveal too much about himself.
Not seen anyone else commenting on this but, has anyone else noticed the similarity between the Hate Monster and that Olympic mascot?
I’m sure it’s just a coincidence.
There is a very sinister and satanic agenda at the back of the whole trans cult ideology!
Cannot imagine living in in the next few decades if the last have brought us to here!
@Ruby Friday (12.48) –
Not sure who you’re referring to but if it’s who I think it is, worry not – he’s all yours!
😉
@ John C
” TRAs use the ‘if black women can be classed as women then so can Trans people’ argument all the time ”
Whit ?!! Has this insane comparison actually been used by * Trans * Wrongs Inactivists ?
Right enough , if blackbirds can be described as birds then …..
Wait …..aren’t female blackbirds brown ? FFS Avian Patriarchy gone mad . Yd think , by now , they would at least be extended the option of a hyphenated title , eg Lady Blackbird-Brown
FEMALE BLACKBIRDS RIGHTS NOW !
Don’t start me on Great Tits 🙂
Ruby Two Nespresso (hope you don’t mind me giving you yet another moniker)
“I remember when you were a newbie and I was the very first person to talk to you!”
So do I. You were welcoming and kind to me and I’ll never forget that – even when I’m a famous world-renowned poet and author. 🙂
Agreed. Decaf is awful…and pointless.
PS.I like how you fitted in a Nespresso review at the same time as replying to my comment – efficient.
My parents, when i was 12 and precocious, took me to Algeria to see the Roman sites etc.
Being, at the time, cute with black curls and looking just a little «girly» i was made a fuss of by the women but i don’t recall seeing one of the form quite like Amane.
However, even at 12 i sensed Algeria, even by Iraqi standards, was a tough place to grow up. Police types checking you out….for your own security. Fun for «kasbah» kids….until they catch you.
Can’t help feeling sorry for the guy.
Turabdin: “the lie will now be accepted as truth, and truth be defamed as lie…”
That’s so last year.
The future is in atomisation, at the national and international level, with all the channels and institutions of collective engagement essentially obliterated.
Some will call it hell. Others will call it freedom.
The war on truth, now over, was simply a necessary step, a means to an end. Anything is possible once you destroy “truth” as a reference point.
Get ready for anything;
“The notions of right and wrong, justice and injustice have there no place. Where there is no common power, there is no law; where no law, no injustice.” (Hobbes)
Hatuey hath spoken…
British Olympic boxer Nicola Adams has released a short statement and made it very, very clear where she stands.
link to x.com
This is going to be hard for TRAs to shout at. Here’s an elite boxer who fought like hell in and out the ring to not just get women’s boxing accepted and included, but as a black lesbian from a working class background, she endured all manner of abuse.
As we know, TRAs know no shame, nor do they care for black women or the working class so there’s abuse and the predictable chants of ‘NAZI’ aimed at her.
Humanism is in crisis. It is currently shifting from its classical objectivistic, mechanistic, rationalistic polarity (which presupposes the abiding normative laws of mathematics and physics — a clockwork UNI-verse model, if you like), to its post-postmodernist subjectivistic, irrationalistic, personalistic polarity (ie radically rejecting all normativity as it sinks into a black-hole of infinite flux — a haywire MULTI-verse model of alternative cosmic realities, if you like — see (with visual health warning) the recent Oscar-winning Michelle Yeoh movie ‘Everything Everywhere All at Once’), but also the portending dissolution of human normativity into potentially non-regulated acid-baths of experimental bio-engineering, transhumanism, and AI consciousness.
The ultra-relativism of the latter subjectivistic polarity infamously rejects for instance the normative laws of biology in regards to the trans debate, but it rejects also the normative laws of speech and civilised discourse which undergird the negotiated social peace upon which democracy is premised — hence its modus operandi presents (counter-intuitively perhaps) as strident intransigence, governmental absolutism, raw mob power, infantilised hysteria, all symbolised by the iconic weapon of baby-pink-and-blue-painted baseball bats wrapped in barbed wire.
Whit ?!! Has this insane comparison actually been used by * Trans * Wrongs Inactivists
Often. First time I saw it, it was from that lunatic India Willoughby in relation to Venus and Serena Williams but it’s a pretty frequent line these people use. As I’ve said, many TRAs and their supporters are deeply, deeply racist as well as hating women & right now they’re laying into Nicola Adams for speaking out.
I do genuinely think that had Khelif put a boxer in hospital (he may still do) then some ‘progressives’ will be blaming the other boxer for not being good enough.
One of the things TRAs don’t like to speak about is the sheer amount of domestic abuse that happens in Trans relationships which is why so many Trans identifying people need to access rape crisis centres. From what I’m aware of and been told, it’s endemic in that scene. There’s a level of violence in Transgenderism dating back to old school transexuals but now they’re backed by supposed progressives.
However, even at 12 i sensed Algeria, even by Iraqi standards, was a tough place to grow up.
Algeria has a shocking record for human rights violations at a time when countries around it are trying to become more liberal. Til recently they had a law that allows rapists to marry their victims. Torture is routinely used, there’s virtually no freedom of expression and any other religion bar Sunni Muslim is outlawed with other Muslims being persecuted by Algerian authorities. Women’s rights there are marginal at best.
And this is the country so-called progressives are leaping to defend.
link to amnesty.org
Lorna Campbell @ 11:10 am
“The really smart questions are: why”
Perhaps to make people identify with and value ‘gender identity’ ideology above and hence as something ‘superior’ to their national identity? In effect, to subordinate and weaken the emotion of ‘national identity’.
Which would help explain the phenomenon as being a form of cultural imperialism, intended to change the way ‘a people’ view themselves. It would seem a useful way to take-over and even remove nations/national sovereignty. Easier in Scotland of course as the cultural imperialism job is half done here already.
Why are we no longer allowed to call a spade a spade?
Aye Jim
‘The Hate Monster’ is en vacances à Paris!
He’ll be listening to everything these
ScottishTeam GB athletes are saying and taking careful note.Don’t think you are safe and that when ‘the HM is away you mice can play’.
Oh no you can’t! He has spies everywhere monitoring your every word.
Some hateful person has described him as a ‘clitoris in trainers’
I think that would sound so much better in Scots.
Any chance of our very own (and not Rabs) famous world-renowned poet and author giving the translation a go?
I wonder why the French have chosen a clitoris do they not usual have a cock?
I would suspect that, in Muslim Algeria, so as not to be shunned or worse, the boxer just accepted his wrongly diagnosed ‘femaleness’ and carried on the farce even though he knows, and has known for a number of years, that he is male.
Likewise, his country knows he is male and the IOC knows he is male
Bingo.
From what I understand about this DSD, his testes would be internal so at birth he’d look for all intents and purposes female, but as puberty kicked in it’d be quite clear that he’d be ‘intersex’ (to use an outdated and offensive term TRAs are happy to throw around) so was raised as female in a country where otherwise he’d likely have been imprisoned and tortured.
Olympic success brings not just sporting glory but an amount of soft power hence why countries spend millions getting athletes trained to win. Algeria winning a gold medal in boxing brings a load of bragging rights in that part of the world, especially as all these incredibly strict Muslim countries are all looking to get one over on each other.
But he’s got testes & a penis. He’s got XY chromosomes. He’s got so much testosterone in him that he’s either doping or male. He’s got no right to be in women’s boxing, but Algeria (and him) know that in the male categories he’d be lucky to get out of the first round as opposed to having a chance of winning the women’s competition. He’s an adult now, he knows he’s cheating and he knows he can seriously hurt a woman.
As for the ‘well she’s female, look at her passport’ nonsense, imagine if Tyson Fury decided to come out as female, change his passport and sex markers then go on to fight women?
Mon Dieu!
La belle France has lost it’s cock and is now represented by ‘a fanny in trainers’.
Maybe it needs the trainers to make a quick dash to the disabled toilet.
Someone asked about TRAs using black women as a reason Trans identifying males should play in women’s sport. It’s a common trope, and here’s Mark Steel unleashing his inner racist in a progressive way of course.
link to x.com
‘It’s just a joke’ doesn’t wash. If this had been said by one of the GB News halfwits it’d rightly be called out as racist.
“Aye it’s a problem for women to solve. Nothing to do with ‘Addidas’ or anyone sponsoring these athletes and games. It’s all up to women.”
Ruby Friday.
Actually – in hindsight, its a problem that society must face head on as a whole – looking back many men partook in the Suffragette Movement which led to women’s enfranchisement on voting – this time around, men must also be seen to be protecting women’s rights – rights that are being eroded – they must be protected – these women are our mothers, sisters, wives, aunties girlfriends etc – they shouldn’t treated as second class citizens.
We see plenty of Pride like marches calling for equal rights for the LGBTI+ community – rights they already posses – yet we see very little marches calling for the protection of real women’s rights – I’m not being sexists here – but men couldn’t achieve half of what they have achieved without women backing them up – either in the home or workplace.
I think the ridiculous Hate Crime laws were brought in to shut folk up – to stop them speaking out about the erosion of women’s rights – and to if not prevent – then to stifle free speech that isn’t a Hate Crime – but common sense.
Those politicians at Holyrood who have pushed the agenda that has led us here – did so without our permission – when polls showed that the majority of the Scottish public were deeply against the likes of the GRRB, HCB and puberty blockers for children – which the Cass Review clearly pointed out – that they are detrimental to children’s mental and physical wellbeing.
The main culprits at Holyrood are the SNP and the Greens – women’s rights are eroding due to this lots bias agenda – and its not confined to Scotland by any means.
Ruby
Did you know ‘transwomen are men’ and the vast majority of politicians opposed to women’s right are men. The companies sponsoring all these men are made up of men.
That’s precisely my point. Women have to defend their corner, otherwise you’ll all be in the back seat, or the boot, once more grateful for whatever scraps, in way of privileges, that the men allow.
In fact it’s already happening. On Sky News last night the conversation over events in Stockport were all about the rights of the murderer. The three little girls were almost forgotten. Women and girls will be sacrificed to try and maintain order when more socially conservative elements start to assert themselves.
We see plenty of Pride like marches calling for equal rights for the LGBTI+ community – rights they already posses – yet we see very little marches calling for the protection of real women’s rights – I’m not being sexists here – but men couldn’t achieve half of what they have achieved without women backing them up – either in the home or workplace.
Also did everyone see how many flags, banners, pedestrian crossings, marches and just general activism there was for disability pride month last month?
If the answer is ‘zero’ then you’d be right. For all the TRAs bluster they don’t really care about the disabled just as they don’t care for women, girls, LGB people and safeguarding.
But yes, Trans identified men and women have the same rights as any of us. What they want is privilege and the right to discriminate in law.
Some regulars will remember Rev posting this when it caused a sensation on the Letterman Show many moons back…happier days.
Performed at the Kelvingrove bandstand earlier this week.
Future Islands – ‘Seasons’
link to youtube.com
MBM Policy sent a letter last month to Bridget Phillipson the Labour MP responsible for Women and Equalities.
The letter was to do with Labour proposals to amend the GRR 2004.
Part of the letter deals with how MBM suggests the aspects that consultation should cover in advance.
Below is part with link.
Issues any consultation should address
We assume any proposals to reform the GRA will be subject to formal consultation.
There are questions that a consultation paper needs to address, in order for
consultees to be able to give a properly informed response. The Scottish
Government’s consultations failed to do this. These include:
1. What is the precise legal effect of a person obtaining a gender recognition
certificate?
2. Specifically, what are the precise legal implications for non-GRC holders of a
person holding a GRC, including:
• spouses, civil partners, and children of people acquiring a GRC
• users and providers of single-sex services and spaces
• members and organisers of single-sex associations
• those organising and participating in sporting activities
• organisers of and applicants to single-sex shortlists, development
programmes, prizes etc.
• criminal justice bodies (police, courts, prisons, bodies involved in undertaking
criminal record checks)
• the media and private individuals when referring to individual GRC holders
• those charged with collecting data for any public purpose.
Clarification here needs to include clear explanation of the specific implications of
the privacy provisions in section 22 of the GRA in all these settings.
The outcome of For Women Scotland vs the Scottish Ministers, due to be heard
in the UK Supreme Court on 26 and 27 November, and any planned government
response to that, will be relevant”
link to murrayblackburnmackenzie.org
Anything wrong with the Dads of these three little girls speaking out.
Are men just going to stand back and say nothing? It’s all a woman’s problem!
I’m beginning to think all this ‘It’s a woman problem to solve is all just more bloody misogyny.’
More of ‘these feminists wanted equality so now they’ve got it they can just suck it up and sort it out if they don’t like it!’
I don’t know if you have noticed or not ‘Stuart the Obscure’ but I am defending my corner right here on Wings in front of your eyes!
I could end up being sent to the naughty step but I’m willing to take that risk!
Bloody well done to ‘Republicofscotland’ for seeing the light!
Republicofscotland @ 2.22 pm:
“…its a problem that society must face head on as a whole…men must also be seen to be protecting women’s rights”
You’re exactly right.
Apart from anything, it’s not just women’s rights – it’s everybody’s rights, including men’s rights, that are at stake.
Just out of interest, how would you (not you specifically RoS – anyone on here) respond if you were asked what your pronouns are?
Apparently that “hyperandogenism” also means, apart from heightened testosterone, you get XY chromosomes.
Ladies, be careful you don’t catch that disease!
moixx @ 3:39pm, I’d be tempted to say my pronouns are She/He/It/They and it is literal violence to put them in any other order. Yes, I’d be making a point.
@Ruby, I posted a comment earlier this afternoon in which I named people and organisations which the Guardian was using in an article today to smear everyone who took to the streets in both England this week and Eire last November. It turned out that the people and organisations the Guardian were using were not born in the UK or Eire but all shared an ethnic, religious and cultural connection. Stu chose to nuke it rather than post it as is his wont, it is his site. I suggest that people start to look into who these organisations the likes of the Guardian quote are and who and what they really represent.
Alf: yes, an all-encompassing identity is what is being striven for, with an elite that is mega-wealthy and reaching for god status and immortality. I would doubt that many women have these delusions because we are far too close to the bloody, nitty-gritty of human life to harbour such nonsense.
John C: doctors today would sex test a baby with ambiguous genitalia and, perhaps, suggest surgery to afford the child genitalia closer to that of the male or female. Parents, at least, would be told that their child has ambiguous genitalia so that they could agree to sex testing at the very earliest stage of life and so that children are not raised as the opposite sex by mistake.
Caster Semenya is the perfect example of the arrogant DSD male who shows no remorse for cheating. He has said that women are weaklings and made it very plain that he despises female athletes. He is a man, right enough. I would suggest some enterprising person should lead a silverback male gorilla into the male weightlifting category and state that it identifies as an adult human male.
Apart from the fact that this placid creature is normally as docile as a lamb except when it or its family and troupe are threatened, unlike many men for whom violence is endemic, it would knock all the men into a cocked hat for strength. The men might then understand in no uncertain terms how female athletes are disadvantaged when placed up against male athletes. It is just a simple fact that gorillas are very much more powerful than men, just as it is also a simple fact that men are stronger than women – except, maybe, in the brain department.
Does being outstrengthed by a gorilla make men weaklings and worthy of being despised? Nope. Men and gorillas are different species and there are sound biological reasons for the different strengths. Same with women and men. We are different for a reason, and it, too is biological. Females are not inferior men just as men are not inferior gorillas. Some, with peanut brains, just do not get that. Worse, they think that their preoccupations are much, much more important than those of females. Mother Nature is becoming very angry.
What are your pronouns?
“Pronouns are SO last year!
Press release from British Medical Association (31 July 2024) —
« The BMA is to undertake an evaluation of the Cass Review – the independent report on gender identity services for children and young people in the UK, published earlier this year.
« Members of the BMA’s Council recently voted in favour of a motion which asked the Association to ‘publicly critique the Cass Review’, after doctors and academics in several countries, including the UK, voiced concern about weaknesses in the methodologies used in the Review and problems arising from the implementation of some of the recommendations.
« A ‘task and finish’ group, established by the BMA’s Chair of Council Professor Philip Banfield, who will also appoint the group’s chairperson, will pay particular attention to the methodology used to underpin the report’s recommendations. There have been ongoing discussions within the BMA about the Cass Review since it was published; before that the BMA attended meetings with Dr Cass when the review was being written. These, together with the Council’s wishes, have helped to shape what will be a detailed, evidence-led piece of work.
« The BMA is calling for a pause to the implementation of the Cass Review’s recommendations whilst the task and finish group carries out its work. It is expected to be completed towards the end of this year. In the meantime, the BMA believes transgender and gender-diverse patients should continue to receive specialist healthcare, regardless of their age.
« The BMA has been critical of proposals to ban the prescribing of puberty blockers to children and young people with gender dysphoria, calling instead for more research to help form a solid evidence base for children’s care – not just in gender dysphoria but more widely in paediatric treatments. The Association believes clinicians, patients and families should make decisions about treatment on the best available evidence, not politicians.
« Professor Banfield said:
“It is vitally important we take time and care to get this work right. This is a highly specialised area of healthcare for children and young adults with complex needs, and as doctors we want to be sure they get the most appropriate care and the support they need. The task and finish group will make recommendations to improve the healthcare system that has, for too long, failed transgender patients. It will work with patients to ensure the evaluation invokes the old adage in medicine of ‘no decision about me without me’. It is time that we truly listen to this group of important, valued, and unfortunately often victimised people and, together, build a system in which they are finally provided with the care they deserve.” »
« Ends
Link to above BMA press release:
link to bma.org.uk
Skip_NC @ 4.09 pm
That’s interesting 🙂
However, feeling that you have to ‘make a point’ means that you are being forced to participate in it all, and to effectively state your opinion on it. I could see that, depending on the circumstances, it might be difficult to do that.
Any of us could be asked ‘what are your pronouns’ or ‘what is your gender’ – I’m just wondering if people have considered what they’d say if it was asked of them.
Elaborating on the theme,
That homosexuality has been part of Levantine, North African, Near Eastern culture is not difficult to verify; it’s all in the literature for those prepared to search.
The arrival of the American «gay» worldview has however «queered the pitch».
In actuality it has made life more difficult for those of the orientation than one hundred years ago when no one really cared; now they do, and that adversely.
People that meddle in things they cannot possibly understand, for selfish reasons of their own, are dangerous and may cost lives.
Trouble is, it is not THEIR life put at risk.
Tenor of NOTE 3 below the BMA Press Release is stronger:
3. The Motion reads:
‘This meeting recognises that the provision of gender identity services in the United Kingdom is inadequate, and that transgender people should be treated with compassion and respect for their bodily autonomy. Following the publication of the Cass Review on Gender Identity Services for children and young people, this meeting is concerned about its impact on transgender healthcare provision because of its unsubstantiated recommendations driven by unexplained study protocol deviations, ambiguous eligibility criteria, and exclusion of trans-affirming evidence.
Therefore, this meeting calls on the BMA to:
i. Publicly critique the Cass Review;
ii. Lobby and work with other relevant organisations and stakeholders to oppose the implementation of the recommendations made by the Cass Review;
iii. Lobby the Government and NHS in all four nations to ensure continuity in provision of transgender healthcare for patients younger than 18 years old;
iv. Lobby the Government and NHS in all four nations to ensure continuity in provision of transgender healthcare for patients aged 18 or older;
v. Publicly state support for transgender people, particularly transgender youth, and provision of prompt access to gender identity services and treatment at all ages;
vi. Condemn the increasing political transphobia which is ostracising transgender people and discriminating against them by blocking their access to healthcare’.
The utter hypocrisy of Lisa Nandy and the LYING BASTARD LIEBOUR party is on an illuminated billboard today with her announcement that “BIOLOGY COUNTS” Who would have thunk it
Of course this Remarkable TRUE statement only comes in the wake of YEARS OF DISTORTION AND LUNACY with the LIE of “transwomen are women” SPOUTED eagerly and without conscience by Lisa Nandy and other reality denier politicians
Between this, allowing Israel to compete (but not Russia) and endorsing a Dutch volleyball player who has a conviction for child rape, the IOC are having a great 2024…
moixx, if anyone asked my gender, I hope I’d say something like “That is something that I only share with my closest friends. However, as I have hairy arms, hairy legs and am rapidly balding, it should be obvious that my sex is male.” My point being that people can be whoever they want, within, in this case, the constraints of biology.
My opinion on pronouns being almost more important than one’s name is, of course, reflected in the order in which I listed them in my earlier post.
Everything started falling to fuck when we left the trees.
We can only imagine there was a time in what’s called ‘the state of nature’ when men and women knew their place. Everybody had a role. It worked.
Being a man once mattered. The role was important, to defend the tribe, build shelter, hunt for food. Even the most ordinary fellow was valued. That role changed and evolved along with technology and the mode of production, but in essence it remained the same — men did the heavy lifting, the physical work, they got down into the dirt.
Now look what you’ve done to us…
Wasn’t it obvious that destroying men in the name of equality was going to backfire at some point? That when you chiselled away at the essence of man, you were also chiselling at the skeletal bones of society?
And you just couldn’t stop, could you… First the vote, then jobs, then equal pay, on top of all that, you demanded to emulate men socially, go out drinking, play the field, play sports, etc., etc., etc., telling men they were worthless every inch of the way.
The goal of feminism, whether feminists knew it or not, was to destroy the distinction between man and woman. That’s really what equality meant.
Well, you did it. Congratulations. Now everything is fucked.
As for men punching women as an Olympic sport, what the fuck are women doing in a boxing ring? That’s every bit as unsettling to me as men in women’s toilets.
They’re your dots, women, go join them.
Do women athletes not have a union that could instruct them to go on strike due to compromised and dangerous working conditions.
If not then simply take the initiative and Boycott, Divest and Sanction the shit out of all these organisations and activities that are pushing and supporting this genderwoowoo nonsense.
Aye, escalating the protest may coz a slight blip and controversy, but it looks like that is going to be a necessary part of the process in addressing and righting this wrong.
Never underestimate the profound sense of loss man will feel when they can no longer survey the stunning natural athletic beauty of a game of women’s beach volleyball…
@ Hatuey
LOL , you at the pure wind-up again ?
” First the vote, then jobs, then equal pay, … ”
I know , wummin.. tsk ….wanting jobs , votes AND equal pay ! Some neck oan thum , eh ?
Actually , there is some truth in what you say , but I think , in essence , it’s , ie Feminism , another example of humans aspiring to achieve something admirable , necessary , just , basking in the sunlight of having , to whatever degree , succeeded in those ambitions and failing to notice the shadow ; the negatives , the losers . Not realising there always a price to pay for progress . Or so it appears .
It just seems to be what happens ; though I question whether there’s anything really ” inevitable ” about , eg the fact we keep making the same mistakes ; and ” explaining ” / excusing the apparent failure to learn from them by referring to something called ” Human Nature ” . What does that term even mean ?
The fact we , as a species , have done/thought certain things recurringly through time doesn’t mean we’re somehow compelled to continue doing/thinking them .
In the end ” Human Nature ” like ” Communism ” , ” Fascism ” , ” Nationalism ” , ” Feminism ” etc is/are * just * ideas ; thoughts which even when made * concrete * ,never lose their essentially * mental * foundation . They are ” the stuff that dreams are made of ” .
Problems arise when such ” stuff ” is subjected to Death-by-Literalism : and what more glaring example of that grand folly is there than TWAW . The ultimate in demented Literalism .
Perhaps a suggestion for Imane Khelif.
Better send for Dai Bando…
link to tiktok.com
You are mistaken Robert Hughes. Hatuey isn’t at the pure wind-up the fucker is serious.
I don’t reply to his posts anymore I think he’s pure bonkers and that is putting it nicely!
The worst thing that happened to men was the invention of the vibrator and women thinking it was their right to have an orgasm without a man!
That really hit home and men just felt worthless!
Not forgetting the spin cycle on the washing machine and the film ‘When Harry met Sally’ giving the game away!
You can understand why some cultures practice female genital mutilation!
Maybe there needs to be a splinter off sports championship for the men that are weak in mind and muscle and choose to compete against women.
The 2024 LimpDicks…
I’m getting auld and crumbly now but I just checked the Strava cycling app and I’m only 2 seconds behind the Queen of the Mountain top time on a sprint climb road section set by some Swiss road race cycling team woman.
The thing is I set my time riding a 34 pound 26 inch wheeled mountain bike with fat knobbly tyres and she was undoubtedly using some uber fancy lightweight road racing bike with larger diameter wheels and skinny tyres so way less rolling resistance.
I think I’m going to grab a shot of a pal’s carbon fibre framed road race bicycle with wifi controlled gears (wtf) and see if I can improve my time.
TBH that cycling app is fucked because all the league time tables have been corrupted by e bike riders that don’t filter their rides into the correct sections. Aye, yer so impressive getting a quick time or taking a K/QoM off someone when you’ve got around 300 to 750 watts electrical assistance. Assholes gonna asshole.
Your shooting yourself in the foot here Stu
Imane Khelif is a woman and always has been.
On a brighter note…
Weel dun the Boys fae Skibbereen !
Hatuey: just as society changes over time, so humans must also change and develop to embrace the society of the day. Maybe, at one time, men and women had strictly defined roles – you know, when the chaps went out to fire arrows at mammoths and the women stayed at home in the cave with the bairns and did absolutely nothing all day. Except they did, didn’t they? The females were the gatherers and lo and behold, what do we discover? That the gathering – nuts, fruits, berries, etc. – were absolutely essential to the human diet when meat was scarce and to supplement it when it wasn’t.
If the Olympics has taught us anything, it is that women shoot just as well, and sometimes better than the chaps. Ditto, archery. Ditto any sport that does not require the bludgeoning effect of physical strength. Granted, strength itself can be an admirable thing, especially in sport. The sexes are complementary, not exclusive and abusive, with male strength the excuse to harm women and deprive them of autonomy.
I don’t suppose you have ever watched young children playing in a nursery, say? If you ever do, you will see immediately that the wee girls are just as prone as the wee lads to climb, run, jump, race, throw balls, etc. All humans need to be able to exercise and excel if they want, and both sexes need to exercise their equal brains (which are, in reality not very different, except in defined areas).
Can you explain to us all here how being stuck your entire life within four walls, cleaning, washing, doing housework would go down with you or most other men, how you or other men would take to not being allowed to drive or receive an education, never to walk outside on your own to feel the sun on your face? That is the life that many women and girls across the world live.
Yes, males and females do have roles suited to their biology, but who decided that female biology was inferior, that females had to be denied life-sustaining equality in the interests of…you know, men? Would that be men, by any chance? Can you tell us of an instance, any instance, of men’s biology being controlled by women, of men’s social lives being controlled by women, of their rates of pay being controlled by women. You can’t, because there are none.
Even the little bit of autonomy that women have carved out for themselves is being whittled away by men in frocks or by men who claim to be female, and they are being cheered on by other men – misogynists who have a vested interest in keeping women out of public spaces, sports, services, etc. Mother Nature is starting to get very angry. Very angry, indeed.
I’m just a conduit for ideas and not any more responsible for them than a spirit medium is for the things that ghosts believe in…
In the natural world it’s not controversial to talk of the different roles played by the males and females of a species. There was a time in the human world when it would have been considered ridiculous to put boxing gloves on the hands of women.
You should be proud of this, Robert;
“ In the end ” Human Nature ” like ” Communism ” , ” Fascism ” , ” Nationalism ” , ” Feminism ” etc is/are * just * ideas ; thoughts which even when made * concrete * ,never lose their essentially * mental * foundation…”
It’s the best thing you’ve ever said.
It’s self evidently obvious and true that feminism has blurred the boundaries of masculinity and femininity. And if you stand back and think about it honestly, you’d probably agree that that was the goal.
And yet that’s turned out to be a rather problematic thing to bring about.
At the same time, I don’t know what we could have done or could do to oppose it, without being rightfully accused of something unpleasant.
yeah, so some daft cow got a smack in the mouth and had a blub and its not fair and the world should stop because some mystery meat trans freakshow who may have ovaries and testicles … got a gold medal in something women shouldn’t be doing anyway … glad we got our priorities straight.
And now for something completely different. Shit that matters.
“the problem with Scotland is … it’s full of Scots”
(HOLD MY BEER)
have just got myself some numbers – they let you download it as a spreadsheet, in the hope that you can’t count or do graphs or work excel.
link to nrscotland.gov.uk
A quick shufty. The important table is inflows / outflows from the rest of the UK – we are talking about migration.
– for the past 10 years we get about 50K people coming to Scotland from the “rest of the UK” every year, and it’s not the welsh and it’s not the nornirish, it’s the English.
– in the same period, we lose about 40K people a year down to England; this is mostly Scots.
looks like we have lost 400K Scots and gained 500K English. Now, there is some recycling here – english coming up and going home, scots moving away and coming back, but we can’t put a number on that.
suppose the Scots are split on indy – we lost 200K Yessers and 200k Nobodies, a wash, but the english are 80:20 (at least) for the union 400K : 100K – we have lost a net 300k supporters in that period.
– only the dumbest fucking cunt would stand for this, and let – our enemies – have a veto on our self determination
NO VOTE FOR NIGEL
should be the mantra, but no nationalist has the balls to say this. So, there we are, as time passes, our situation worsens.
the anglification of Scotland continues apace; even a section 30 referendum right now, we would be hard pushed to win it, and even if by some amazing manoeuvre you tightened the franchise, many of the anglo clnists have now been here for over 5 years, so it is really just taking the edge off. Hence the insane energiser bunny of franchise fanny and his fluffers. It’s a big deal to them.
“make the case for indy to the soft noes”
– fuck you. I am not asking for charity from some viciously bigoted little englander who thinks the anglo saxon is the master race.
People don’t really appreciate the sneaky fuckery of what they are up against and what utter shits the english are. Our sellout politicians – well done, Nikki – you kicked the can far enough down the road that migration demographics will sort the problem. Cheating, without cheating.
Altering the franchise to allow “Scots in England” to vote probably won’t help – Scots tend to assimilate when they go down South, it makes for an easier life, and it is easier in the mind if you have convinced yourself “Scotland is an integral part of the UK”. And we aren’t just the unlucky siamese twin to the worst people on the fucking planet who everyone fucking hates.
In 2011, there were good interactive maps, with heatmaps, all that, with detailed breakdowns. Not so much now. We could do with some charts showing “identifies as” / “country of birth” over time for all the areas. But that would make it too obvious.
Given that Edinburgh is the big destination and the anglos coming up here are not cockney chimney sweeps, but the middle class, it means your professional sector, media, the good jobs people – is going to be stuffed even more full of unionists.
As events down in southport have shown us, it is who your parents are that defines what you are, accidents of birth or residence, should be irrelevant.
I would tax the english out of Scotland – make them pay a “jizyah” (a karmic revenge for the poll tax) and use the cash raised to build social housing for native Scots. Soak them for 10 times the council tax rate, every year – Scotland is not some place for you to make a tidy profit, you, the anglo carpetbagger – and all the free shit, eh? Maybe get free uni for the kids too. And still slag off Scotland/Scots for how shit it is and how much we subsidise them.
The situation is actually worse than this – because – I haven’t looked at the table for international migration, again, we lose Scots and gain all this mystery meat (big spike last year) … I will leave that analysis to our very good friend, “Anthony Modest”.
Hatuey
Ignored
says:
2 August, 2024 at 11:07 pm
It’s self evidently obvious and true that feminism has blurred the boundaries of masculinity and femininity. And if you stand back and think about it honestly, you’d probably agree that that was the goal.
And yet that’s turned out to be a rather problematic thing to bring about.
At the same time, I don’t know what we could have done or could do to oppose it, without being rightfully accused of something unpleasant.”
i’d just you to know this Hatuey. You get right on my fucking tits.
Hautey is claiming the goal of feminism was to turn men into trannies!
Maybe they really are witches these Terfs with some crazy magic spells!
Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn and caldron bubble.
I’ve tried but my magic spells don’t work. I’ve kissed 100s of frogs and not one of them turned into a handsome prince.
The ones that haven’t been turned into trannies by the terf witches have been turned into greetin’ faced bairns blaming everything on the women!
They remind me of Sturgeon who blames everything on the Tories but in their case it’s the women.
Terfs are the new Tories.
Decolonisation.
It’s the only gig in town.
I wonder what that Confused fucker thinks women should be doing.
Do they do knitting at the Olympics.
In over through & off!
Women have little idea of how much men hate them
Germaine Greer .Cancelled
John C
“I do genuinely think that had Khelif put a boxer in hospital (he may still do) then some ‘progressives’ will be blaming the other boxer for not being good enough.”
2 August, 2024 at 1:43 pm
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Why look in the crystal ball when you can read the book?
Such victim-blaming occurred on this very site, in the early hours of same morning you posted:
“she takes a pop in the face and then just shites it. “-Confused @2 August, 2024 at 12:04 am
shug
2 August, 2024 at 10:01 pm
“Your (SIC) shooting yourself in the foot here Stu
Imane Khelif is a woman and always has been.”
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Are you shooting yourself in the head?
If “she” has always been a woman, why did the International Boxing Association ban “her” from female boxing in 2023? Could it be that the IBA was less impressed by than the IOC by a passport ‘gender marker’ bought for €60 or whatever?
Lorna, there are many aspects of life for men and women that are miserable. But I’m not sure how it helps your case or helps in any other respect to enable women to act like men, if you think men are responsible for most of the misery.
We used to wonder if women in leadership roles, in business, politics, etc., would result in a better world. After Thatcher and Sturgeon, I think it’s fair to say that horse has well and truly bolted…
You might think it would be wrong of me to blame women generally for people like Thatcher and Sturgeon and use them in a debate like this. I agree. But you and other women seem quite comfortable doing that, blaming all men for the antics of the few — that’s at the heart of everything you said above.
And that’s the sort of exchange we get embroiled in every time we discuss stuff like this.
There are lots of things like boxing that I’m not comfortable with women doing, but that doesn’t mean I think less of them —it’s an acknowledgement of the differences that exist between men and women, the same sort of differences that people are complaining about in regards to the Olympic Committee putting a man in the ring with a woman.
Just a couple of weeks ago we saw another example when Trump was shot at and we found out the Secret Service had assigned a bunch of women to his security detail. No need to go into all that again but you get the point; it was a farce.
Over the last 40 years or more, I’ve watched the role of ordinary men in society being reduced to rubble along with the jobs they depended on in the mines, shipbuilding, heavy industry, etc. Nobody stands up for them but they’re the first people society calls when there’s really shit life-threatening work to be done.
I’m not blaming women for all that, but it feels like every minority group under the sun is cursing us as they dance on our graves. Now we are being blamed for transgenderism or something. Honestly, most of us gave up with society long ago; weren’t even there.
Confused
Ignored
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2 August, 2024 at 11:54 pm
…looks like we have lost 400K Scots and gained 500K English. Now, there is some recycling here – english coming up and going home…
I’d be willing to bet the 500k didn’t move into the same actual properties the 400k vacated…
But those numbers are catastrophic for Scotland.
John Swinney torn apart over ‘confusing’ answer to ‘what is a woman’ question
If only our political leaders could have answered the question ‘What is a woman’ all would be clear.
The new Scottish First Minister initially said a woman is an “adult female born as a woman” before adding that he accepts “transgender women are defined as women”.
Got it?
A woman is an adult female born as a woman and a woman can also be an adult male born as a man.
Hey Hautey your sexism & misogyny is showing!
Don’t worry you are not alone it seems to be trending here BTL on Wings.
I’ve been quite shocked!
I’ve witnessed more sexism & misogyny over the past month than I have in my entire life.
@ Breeks
And Mia pretty much called this 3 years ago well before the census.
link to wingsoverscotland.com
Dan @ 7:56 am
“And Mia pretty much called this 3 years ago well before the census.”
As did others before. Demographic change (e.g. population displacement or ‘shift’, including ‘banishment of natives’) is a well-established ‘colonial procedure’ and clearly one of the key determinants of independence/liberation for ‘a people’ seeking self-determination:
link to yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com
link to nhs.uk
You learn something every day. The link above explains DSD medically. If the Algerian boxer has at form of DSD then he/she will have a medical history. The IOC processes of passport only is ridiculous in this context. Clearly he/she has a competitive advantage.
There are two issues here These two athletes have cervixes which makes them female it is not their fault They do gain advantages over 100% females which is unfair to the sport
The other issue is the chancers who were born male and should GTF
A biological observation:
Womb:
Human with a womb – defined as a woman (female)
Human without a womb – defined as a man (male)
Both are human.
Biologically, the prime organic differences between men and women are easily understood, even by the simplest of minds, and cannot logically be confused – one has ovaries and a womb, the other doesn’t.
It is impossible, currently, to create a new human body without a male ‘seed’ combined with an ‘egg’ produced by the female’s ovaries, the joined result of which is incubated in the female’s womb, to produce a brand new shiny human.
It could be argued that women are a superior, organically augmented and more advanced form of men.
And that if they could provide the life initiating seed internally for themselves (the only part of a man that is of any use to a woman in the creation of new life – or of any use at all, perhaps) men would be an unnecessary burden on nature’s finite resources and could be dispensed with – and probably would be by mother nature.
Time, and evolution, will tell.
Aye, colonisers would win a super Gold medal for all their underhanded dirty tricks & seeing as we’ll be *the first* TRA hotspot of the UK then we can expect many more..
Who’s sticking the kettle on?
We just have to keep convincing those who already see us as their possession eh? That’ll work.
Scotland needs to call a referendum before we’re swamped out of our own country for good. I bet it’ll be pensioners & students that’s moving too. I’ll doubt the Scots will actually benefit financially from this transaction.
Meanwhile, in other news, Kid Starver has committed to defending his colonising mates, sodomisers & unhinged psychotic nutters, in their quest to start WW3.
It brings a whole new meaning to “freeing up beds” Just shoot them.
& Pensioners will freeze this winter. The great “it’s devolved” con trick will kick in when Scotland gets less when they spend less.
Fcking P. It’s all his fault. If only he hadn’t blown up his own pipeline, tsk..Scots will have to find the good old fashioned methods of keeping war.
@ Alf Baird
I was trying to recall where the line a lack of urgency should not be a factor or excuse in delaying matters of a peoples exercising self-determination is written.
Can you please remind me where that line comes from.
And that the aspect is mentioned at all suggests acknowledgement that there are factors why self-determination of a peoples should not be delayed.
There are terms such as justice delayed is justice denied, and asymmetry of harms which could be used to describe what Scotland is enduring.
@ Northcode
If women are to exist without men, then they’ll defo need more TransWomen. And I’m fine with that as quite happy to take early retirement and let them change out their own gearboxes and fucked dual mass flywheels and clutches!
@ Breeks
” I’d be willing to bet the 500k didn’t move into the same actual properties the 400k vacated…
But those numbers are catastrophic for Scotland. ”
No , they are all moving to the new housing developments that are abounding all over the Highlands . * Developments * that are seemingly able to by-pass local planning authorities & local objections – exactly what Springfield done in my area .
They say ” we need to build these to satisfy local demand ” then 90% of the now houses are bought by people from ” elsewhere ” . This includes the small % of houses that are in the ( fictional ) ” affordable ” category , as well as the equally minuscule % of houses-for-rent .
Does anyone really think the total balls-up and provisional/spasmodic nature of the recent Scottish Census was accidental ? Mere incompetence ?
Scotland is being subjected to a reverse Plantation , with the express aim of diluting the indigenous population that is far more likely to support Independence that those born elsewhere .
I don’t need a Census – particularly not one so mired in deliberate obfuscation – to confirm what my own experience indicates . Not just my own experience . The same thing is being noticed – impossible not to notice – by friends & acquaintances all over the Highlands .
Scots are being * replaced * in their own country . And not a single Political Party /Politician has a word to say on the phenomenon .
They’ve ALL been scared shitless into silence by the threat of being called a ” bad name ” . Though a high % of them couldn’t give a fuck about the erasure of Scots/Scottish Culture ( y’know that * thing * some thing doesn’t even exist ) , and care only about getting their bulbous snouts in the HolyMinster trough .
If the real point of all this lunacy is to distract people from the stuff that’s really important, then it’s defo working.
Let’s call a spade a spade.
Two unambiguously and certifiable female boxers knocking lumps out of each other in the boxing ring is still two freaks devoting their lives to a completely pointless endeavour.
The number of normal dads (and mums), who look at their beautiful, new baby daughter and hope that one day she will grow up to be able to floor an opponent with a single punch for money and fame must be indistinguishable from zero.
In reality, no normal person would want to be around people like that, even if they are 100% biologically female.
The story is no more than Silly Season distraction and click bait, pure and simple. Even the world’s most-read Scottish Indy site is not immune.
*war = warm..
If you want to see what the whole of Scotland will look and sound like in five year’s time visit Moray. Scotland’s supposedly pro independence politicians haven’t a clue. Tractors.
@Breeks 7:07
Those numbers are defo catastrophic for Indy.
There is no certainty they’re catastrophic for Scotland.
After careful consideration over some time, I’ve concluded that if we have to have immigration (and both Hatuey and ScotGov insist that we must), then some forms of immigration are better than others.
The very best form is largely compatible with our current value systems. Racially-motivated white flight from across the border fits that bill far better than sub-Saharan Sharia enthusiasts.
It’s a crying shame that you and your ilk can’t convince the white English sizzlers of the merits of Indy, but then again, you can’t convince a decent majority of Scots either.
After 10 years of failure, you remain remarkably resistant to any ideas for taking a new and different approach, so I guess we’re stuck on that minority Indy support plateau for some time to come.
Men that stand up and protect their families, women, children toddlers are the last of the Bravehearts.
The ones that do not do not fit into that catagory.
Are usually called bullies, women beaters, pedos, molesters and people whom wish to see a decline in the human population on the planet because the elites are not happy that humans live on their land and spaces.
In fact the movie Braveheart, also states all that needs said, “There is nothing wrong with Scotland….except…….
And then you look at the bigger picture, that governments are encouraging with their policies.
Black fight White.
White fight back,
Britain being allowed to be legally invaded by government.
One culture fights another.
Weird men people pretending to drag Queens then painting on a false woman face like clowns at a circus.
Everyone recognises what the Clown is, and would recognise the clown even if he was in the shopping centre or in the houses of parliament.
The sneaky politicians taking over controlling public free speech of humans. While slapping them , with far right or far left names, So no one can raise up about the dehumanisation of people, public voices. Are the very elites flying in private jets, using fossil fuels for war, destroying the homes and families of future populations of the world, with poisons, sewerage overflows. Future Food and water rationing, removing your ability to move around freely with out charging you for it. Deindustralisation of employment so the nations of people have to beg one source universal credit to survive, which you will be allowe d but only if you are willing to have your thinking demonatised and are compliant,
So who is creating all these policies that set one group of humans against another,
who is creating by law to tier policing of free speech,
Who is creating the new culture wars of Britain,
Who created the financial crashes, via planned bad management of our multiple taxes.
Who is allowing the failing energy crises,
Who created the housing shortage problems.
One thing for sure it is not the people, they are just too naive to see the fat controllers manipulating the situation through appalling political policies that ” deviously always fail” the peoples ability to survive unscathed into the free generations they should be on this planet.
Men do not stand up for Women and Children, for the Family, for the future of the human race are either Sissies, or part of the elite group, or are the actual perpetrators of abuse paid for or not as the case may be. but the one thing they will never be.
Is what the wold recognises as Bravehearts,
Dan
Wait for Alfs answer to confirm but just to say I’ve heard that from the UN/ICJ regards P*listine.
*The other side* cannot impose restrictions, hoops to jump through or criteria to meet. It’s against international law.
The colonisers have run out of road on the usual lie of a two State solution that they never, ever intended on granting. It was the usual delay tactic. Now they’re trying the “world based order” pish hoping to replace international law with made up shit the colonisers just make up as a dilemma presents itself. No one is buying it.
A people have a right to self determination if they vote for it.
All that’s needed is for Scots to hold a referendum & declare independence.
No political party is man enough to just get on with it.
” thing ” = think . Cheers Geri 🙂
Dan @ 9:54 am
“I was trying to recall where the line a lack of urgency should not be a factor or excuse in delaying matters of a peoples exercising self-determination is written.”
Yes, on the contrary it is written and repeated in postcolonial literature that ‘the most urgent matter is freeing the people’ (Fanon). This means there can be no delay, which as we see only allows the colonial power to cement its position.
But liberation of the people is not the purpose of the dominant national party, whose leaders crawl ‘ever closer to colonialism’, and who end up behaving like a bunch of criminals, working only in the colonizers interest:
link to grousebeater.wordpress.com
Wouldn’t you just hate to be working for the BBC right now.
The freedom of humans requires more Bravehearts in every country, not just Scotland.
For it is not for freedom alone that you fight for, but to exist, so that you can enjoy that freedom
When the traas people have served their purpose to break down social norms for the elites, then new policies will be introduced against the trans community, outlawing them, that is the way of the elites controlling and creating the regime changes
The trass community will be left on the sidelines as entertaining drag queen painted clowns without a circus of laws protecting them, and perhaps the politicians will go as far as imprisoning some to set examples. As they always do.
Even to famous pedos.
Robert Hughes @ 9:54 am
“they are all moving to the new housing developments that are abounding all over the Highlands”
And Fife, Lothians, the isles etc.
As Albert Memmi wrote:
“Today, leaving for a colony… is simply a voyage towards an easier life. definition of a colony: a place where one earns more and spends less. The colonizer is a privileged being and an illegitimately privileged one; that is, an usurper”
The TRAs were used to pave the way for full blown fascism.
Full blown authoritarianism is now our future.
The American bullshit of democracy is in tatters along with their pretend *Western values*
They’re not even hiding it anymore. If the colonisers don’t like who the plebs vote for they simply declare it not legitimate/overthrow it or install a puppet.
Jeez, the white supremacist is back.
Hatey
When will it dawn on you that there is no need for immigration at all if you just told yer handlers to stop warring & destabilising other people’s countries & pinching other people’s talents & resources.
Scotland doesn’t need a bunch of ultra right wing warring racist English refugees moving in.
The English should stay where they are. Look around themselves & marvel at the fruits of their labour. It’s cost them £billions in bombs for that very outcome.
& Fresh news just in. I is evacuating. I wonder where they’ll all go? Look for a *house a buddy for free government money* coming to a policy near you..
New houses all over.
2,000 new homes built & sold in my area too before the foundations were even laid.
& There’s feck all in my area worth writing home about.
A train station. That’s it. LOL…
Robert Hughes & Doug;
Youse should try a nice day oot in Dumfries & Galloway….
In rhetorical mode…
It seems it does not take much to stir up the English to riot.
Scots, who have a legitimate reason to be very stirred up are quiescent.
Is something simmering to the boil or has the energy just been turned off?
SkipN_C @ 4.09 pm:
“I’d be tempted to say my pronouns are She/He/It/They and it is literal violence to put them in any other order. Yes, I’d be making a point.”
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Aha! I see what you did there 😉
Ian Murray: There are two issues here These two athletes have cervixes which makes them female it is not their fault They do gain advantages over 100% females which is unfair to the sport
The other issue is the chancers who were born male and should GTF
They do not have cervixes if they are DSD, which is very likely. They are biological men with, before puberty, seemingly female external genitalia, with, probably, an enlarged ‘clitoris’ which is actually a penis. They will have undergone male puberty. Their testes are inside. Unless they have other sexual development differences, in which case a simple cheek swab would tell if they have XY chromosomes, then further tests could be done to show whether they have other sexual development issues, such as CAIS. Modern medical science is advanced enough to determine accurately whether either or both has benefited from male puberty. If they have, they cannot be allowed to compete against women. It’s not difficult. The real question is: why does the IOC want them to compete against women?
Turbadin;
I fear that 317 years of conditioning and 50+ years of 100% foreign media have done the job, many Scots [40%+?] are too thick/brainwashed/apathetic to see through the lies and will bleat about energy prices/cost of living/crumbling infrastructure etc but will insist that it’s the Scottish Government to blame. [As intended].
Geri.
Cheer up Geri.
The Scottish law Society have stated a while ago that the treaty of union was not put into domestic law of Scotland.
All Treaties must comply with international law of ” Pact Sunt Servanda” agreements must be kept, to be valid.
The ratification did not Convert the Treaty into an Act or Acts, nor are there words in either Act which incorporate the treaty or any part thereof, into Scots or English domestic laws.
According to the agreement on treaties it must be in Domestic law first before it is acceptable as international,
If you read through all the information on treaties.
Treaties also must include the indigenous population.
Westminster state that the indigenous Scots were not asked to join via a vote because the Scots would probably vote no,
There are many issues that can end the 1707 treaty. Which includes indigenous peoples Scottish land.
And the other one,
Such as Invalidation.
The case sensitive john main: “I’ve concluded that if we have to have immigration (and both Hatuey and ScotGov insist that we must), then some forms of immigration are better than others…”
Didn’t you get the memo? I’m against immigration right now on the basis that we don’t have the facilities, public services, and infrastructure to handle more people. The situation is bleak; I’d actually say it’s so bad that Glasgow and most of the central belt is without a functioning health service right now.
Consider that insight a gift since my reason for wanting to call a temporary halt to immigration is much more likely to be judged reasonable and taken seriously than yours.
Here’s another; as I explained last week, there’s a big difference between immigration to a colony and immigration to an independent state. I am in favour of the latter and if your only concern is how people might vote in a future referendum, you have no reason to object to it.
I’ve stress tested the arguments of those who prioritise Scottish culture as a basis for opposing immigration. Nobody could even define it in intelligible terms.
There used to be a strong sense of working class culture in Scotland and it was a force to be reckoned with, a force that Westminster truly feared. I miss that, and I think Scotland could do with it today. It’s hard to believe it’s all gone…
For those interested, we are still at ‘Defcon Popcorn’ in the Middle East but edging closer and closer to ‘Kiss your ass goodbye’ levels… I will endeavour to keep you updated.
Well said Lorna Campbell
Hatuey;
“I’ve stress tested the arguments of those who prioritise Scottish culture as a basis for opposing immigration. Nobody could even define it in intelligible terms.”
then;
“There used to be a strong sense of working class culture in Scotland…”
I don’t oppose immigration per se, rich ageing scroungers from the south being the main exception.
I agree on point 2.
Now, define it for us.
Hatuey: who are you to say that women are wishing to be more like men? We don’t want to be more like men. We want the same autonomy as men. That is very different.
I’m afraid, whether you realise it not, you are a misogynist at worst, and a sexist, at best. I tried to explain to you about girls and their propensity for physical and mental stimulation, just like boys. Something happens in childhood and girls get all that natural exuberance knocked out of them – well, most, of them.
You, sir, have absolutely no idea of the boundaries to human female development any more than I do. In reality, these have always been set by men. Yes, we are limited to an extent by having children, but most of us do not resent that. Physical activity is usually a young person’s game, anyway, and we see young athletes do very well.
I don’t think you either understand or care that many, many women are depressed and anxious about the whole ‘trans’ nonsense which most of us know to be just another form of misogyny. We are equally depressed and anxious about the whole male ‘superiority’ rubbish. We look at the police wearing baby pink and blue Kevlar vests to reflect their affiliation with the ‘trans’ lobby and we know that will not protect us from the hatred; we see all these organizations’ support of ‘trans’ and men at the expense of females; and we see our politicians trumpet their allegiance with a group that actually has more rights than any other.
Don’t you dare say that women wanted this. All we wanted was autonomy and equal opportunity, not equity, as the ‘trans’ lobby does. You cannot even represent our real objectives with integrity – which is to see all females everywhere afforded an equal place in human society, not to be stuck in one that is expected to kow tow to men, men in frocks, incels, rapists, wife-beaters and all others who want to see us “put in our place” by keeping us in servitude, fear and the threat of harm.
Females are no threat to men: most of us cannot envisage a world without men, unlike many men who can well envisage a world without real women. To these men, ‘trans’ ‘women’ could, conceivably become a substitute in the sexual activity stakes, and, if the transhumanists get their way, babies can be born in artificial wombs in laboratories, and artificially created robot women can also act as sex slaves. Utopia for men. Except, things never quite work out the way they are supposed to when humans are involved. That interfering b*t*h,Mother Nature has a habit of intervening to thwart some males’ god-status pretensions.
@Lorna Campbell
It seems to be that the check that counts in boxing is what the gender is on passport.No notice is being taken of the serious harm that might be done to women.
Lord Coe one of the members of the IOC (have you seen the list?) says what approach is taken in athletics.
“DSD athletes will be required to reduce their blood testosterone level to below 2.5 nanomoles per litre, down from five, and must remain under this threshold for two years in order to compete internationally in the female category in any track and field event.
Under previous regulations, DSD athletes were only restricted in events ranging from 400m to a mile.
Interim provisions will be introduced for DSD athletes already competing in previously unrestricted events, requiring them to suppress their testosterone levels below 2.5nmol/L for a minimum of six months before they are allowed to compete again.
Coe said this will impact 13 DSD athletes, seven (55%) of whom compete in running events above a mile, with six (45%) in sprinting events below 400m.
He added none of the 13 will now be able to compete in the World Athletics Championships in Budapest in August, but will be eligible for future events, including the Paris 2024 Olympics, “if they maintain their testosterone at the required level”.”
Hautey Are you able to define what you mean by culture?
“Nobody could even define it in intelligible terms.”
How intelligible do you need it?
Would you like to live with the customs & traditions of Sharia law? How about Judaism or Christian fundamentalists? Would you be so bold as to claim they didn’t have a culture? Not if you value yer head, or yer arse, depending on who you insult.
“There used to be a strong sense of working class culture in Scotland and it was a force to be reckoned with, a force that Westminster truly feared. I miss that, and I think Scotland could do with it today. It’s hard to believe it’s all gone…”
Aye, it’s called capitalism. Suck a country dry, invest nothing, move on..
& Deindustrialisation. Buy it cheaper elsewhere & be totally fcked in a crisis or when the powers that be taken a hissy fit & start issuing sanctions & trade embargoes.
I don’t know why men object to women learning boxing.
Considering there is so much male violence against women I think women should be encourage to learn as much self-defence as possible.
As a single parent , used to tell my son the reason women wore make up and perfume was because they were ugly and smelled.
Mum wouldn’t let me be a punk rocker, so it was my sort of revenge.
Having the Private Schoolers and child abusers in charge of every establishment Institution isn’t working out any better for the 99%
Defcon Popcorn’s first album was a belter. IIRC they supported Gun at Barrowlands back in the 80s.
But #DefconPopcorn sounds like foisting US culture on tae us Hatuey, and by doing so you’re suppressing oor ain indigenous traditional choices of nosh to munch at times of escalating perilous times.
#DefconSoorPlooms #DefconTablet #DefconMacaroon may be more appropriate nomenclature for the Scottish geographic area.
Anyway, I’m off out to the garden to avoid an afternoon of btl sex wars kicked off by yet more genderpish.
I’ll be doing the traditional NuScottish manly task of picking blackcurrants to preserve this evening for future sustenance, whilst the women are busy fight online.
Did they even check the passport at the Edinburgh Rape Crisis centre.
It’s fair enough that all the focus is on women’s sport at the moment but women in all walks of life are suffering unfairness.
For example the job at the ERC was a job for a woman.
Does anyone have a clue what Hautey means by culture?
It seems to me we have Ellis who tells us there is no such thing as Scottish ethnicity. You can come here from any part of the world but especially the South of England and boom you are Scottish.
And we have Hautey (who I think is completely bonkers) telling us there is no such thing as Scottish culture.
I gave him a pretty good definition of Scottish culture and as soon as I did he wanted the discussion to end.
I think Mr Hautey is getting close to being Cunt No 3.
Cheerio!
I’m sure it’ll be back to the ‘franchisepish’ in no time at all.
Why the reluctance to take part in a discussion about genderpish and defend yourself in the sex wars?
IOC Media has issued this correction:
In today’s IOC – Paris 2024 press briefing, IOC President Bach said:
“But I repeat, here, this is not *a DSD case*, this is about a woman taking part in a women’s competition, and I think I have explained this many times.”
What was intended was:
“But I repeat, here, this is not *a transgender case*, this is about a woman taking part in a women’s competition, and I think I have explained this many times.”
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Sounds like the IOC President doesn’t really understand what he’s being instructed to say.
Also (from REDUXX Twitter/X):
“The European Vice President of the World Boxing Organization has come forward to confirm that Algerian boxer Imane Khelif is male.”
I’ll be doing the traditional NuScottish manly task of picking blackcurrants to preserve this evening for future sustenance, whilst the women are busy fight online.
There are maybe a lot more cunts BTL on Wings than I thought!
NuScottish? Where are you from then? South of England. Are you pals with Ellis’s inlaws.
It would be ‘Nouveau Scottish’ pal if you wanted to continue with your Frenttish!
PS Have you got a shed?
@ Ruby Saturday
Jobs at ERCC may soon be jobs for women only. Il est suspendu pour le noo.
Wokeness is all around. Rector at St Andrews getting her books for speaking the truth about Gaza.
Great link, Alf Baird
Grousebeater pulls no polemical punches:
‘Sir David Davis’ litany of sinister plotting by a coven of witches, aided by swinging dick David Clegg, (recipient of the illegal Daily Record leak direct from back-to-the-mattress Liz Lloyd) Clegg a definite for a prophylactic or two tucked into his top pocket “For the weekend, sir?”’
Westminster feared working class culture because the working classes were represented at Westminster.
They were so represented in fact, they often formed the majority at WM. I write, of course, of the Labour Party – a party of the people and for the people, in the days before they became hollowed out – like every institution becomes hollowed out when infiltrated by the carpet baggers.
They were effectively destroyed by the changes they were instrumental in introducing. A generation developing flabby arses on benefits can’t organise to do anything. We’re into the third generation now, and the Pavlovian response every time somebody mentions UBI shows how many will always choose hand outs over agency and responsibility.
And no, I don’t have a solution. Neither does anybody else on here. The tumbleweed every time somebody suggests the regular contributors need to stand for election themselves proves that.
Everybody is waiting for the SNP to collapse at HR, waiting for new Indy politicians and parties to come along, waiting for others to vote them into power, and waiting for external agencies to gift Scotland her Independence.
Maybe that’s the prevalent Scottish culture defined right there.
@ Ruby
Yon yin is suspended. My instinct is he’s oot.
Rector in St Andrews getting her cards for speaking about events in gaga.
Susan Two seats Aitken says, British patriot Tommy Robinson isn’t welcome in Glasgow.
Of course, he’s welcome in Glasgow. I say this as a Scottish nationalist.
The Glasgwegians want to talk immigration. We want to control our borders.
Of course he’s welcome in Glasgow.
Ms Aitken took to social media to write: “Glasgow City Council has received no notification of any rally but then we know Tommy Robinson and his ilk don’t really care about respecting laws or public places. He’s not welcome in Glasgow and neither is anyone who chooses to align with his poisonous rhetoric.”
LGBT flags, Palestinian flags, Ukranian flags all welcome in Glasgow.
But if you want to control the borders. Talk about immigration you’re far right.
Shame on Two Seats Susan – The big tub of lard. If she was chocolate, she’d eat her self. What a horrible bigoted woman she really is. The destroyer of Glasgow city council.
Rental costs out of control. But become an asylum seeker or refugee and get given a house for free. Don’t even bother learning the language. More points for you!
Meanwhile housing rental costs up 120 per cent in 5 years.
Everyone is poorer.
immigrant familes taking homes. while the native glaswegian man commits suicide.
All thanks to Susan Two Seats Aitken.
She should know that reform came third in many places in Scotland.
Because of immigration.
I support Tommy Robinson’s right to protest in Glasgow on immigration I support that important aspect of freedom of speech. He’s for the British. This is a democracy we live in. Let him speak!
No doubt they’d be a massive counter protest in Glasgow as well.
Glasgow went mental over the whole Kenmure Street protest – where they stopped Priti Patel’s home office from deporting two Muslim men – probably here illegally.
You’ve messed with the wrong city they said. As Glasgow patted themselves in the back on how progressive, virtuous and outward looking, internationalist and inclusive values. they are.
And now we’re all getting screwed over with the War in the East – oil and gas inflation – brexit and uncontrolled immigration, to replace native nurses and doctors. Houses for the international nurses.
bring your granny to university. Bring your granny to study at glasgow caledonian university.
And no houses for the natives.
Get them to fuck.
Tommy. Welcome to Glasgow.
@hatuey your namesake knew about different cultures especially when he was being put to the flames.
link to en.wikipedia.org
It seems that Christianity has become, what was alluded to in the late period of Egypt, to be an instrument of that which exalts itself and is the “haters of mankind”.
SNP Policy.
Bring your granny to University. Come and study a fake course in forensic science at Glasgow Caledonian University. Get a free house and end up working in the NHS.
There’s a scam taking place in Scotland. A massive immigration scam.
And there’s no jobs for all the nurses starving and using foodbanks.
No houses for the Glasgow men. But council houses for migrants here working in the health service. How they were allowed in. I’ll never know.
There’s a scam taking place ladies and gents. People need to look into this massive scale fraud taking place on the Scottish and educational visas system.
Bring your Granny to university. Glasgow Caledonian. MASSIVE SCALE FRAUD.
TIME TO RISE UP AND STAND UP PEEPS. AND TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK.
link to youtube.com
Interesting what Sharon Davies says about doping of East German athletes in the 70s & 80S
The most shocking thing I read was about Abortion doping. (May not be true but if they were pumping young women full of testosterone then the chances of it being true are high)
As Karasyova was believed to have told German television in 1994, she and her team mates were forced to become pregnant shortly before the Olympics. Girls that did not have a boyfriend or husband were forced to have sex with their coach. Refusal led to being thrown off the team.
Hormonal and other changes in pregnancy affect physical performance. In the first three months it is known that a woman’s body produces a natural surplus of red blood cells, which are well supplied with oxygen-carrying hemoglobin, in order to support the growing fetus.[1] Other potential advantages are obtained from the surge in hormones that pregnancy induces, predominantly progesterone and estrogen, but also testosterone, which could increase muscle strength. Increases in hormones like relaxin, which loosens the hip joints to prepare for childbirth, may have a performance-enhancing effect on joint mobility.[1] Peter Larkins, an official of the Australian Sports Medicine Association, opined that the advantages of abortion doping would be “far outweighed by the drawbacks of morning sickness and fatigue” which are common in early pregnancy.
link to tinyurl.com
Tamara Press, Olympian Whose Feats Raised Questions, Dies at 83
She won three gold medals in the 1960s but was the focus of speculation about her gender. She retired after pulling out of a track meet that would have required a sex test.
Bring your granny to university. Have a look into forensic science courses at Glasgow Caledonian University.
Never in a million years have I met so many Nigerian forensic scientist students in all of my life.
our country is under siege.
“British patriot Tommy Robinson isn’t welcome in Glasgow.”
I remember many years ago finding out who was financing him. The spirit of evil will finance both sides of an argument so long as it controls the narrative. It is now so bad I cannot state explicetely because it will be cancelled.
Whatever be the case let the honest and the good rise up to defend that good in all our cities
Most migrants are here to work in the NHS.
All of the Scottish nurses just qualifying are being told this year.
There are no jobs… As they struggled 37.5 hours a week on bursary for 3 years training full time.
While inflation shot up. And stopped them from being able to afford rent.
Disgracefully. NHS Scotland is importing Nigerian nurses on the cheap. To STEAL the jobs from native highly skilled and well trained Scottish nurses – using foodbanks.
It’s time to rise up and stand up and say Scotland First. Scottish people first for housing.
Scots. People with British passports. Residency status UK. FIRST over foreign imported workers.
The scam taking place in Scottish universities. Has be looked into. Massive scale immigration fraud.
Disrupting our way of life and making us all poorer. How dare they come here then have children. Pop out waynes and then take over, turn our communites into theirs. The entitlement of these migrants is OFF THE SCALE!
Scotland needs a total BAN on council housing being given to migrants.
A TOTAL BAN ON COUNCIL HOUSING FOR MIGRANTS.
@ sam at 1.27 and moixx at 2.25
This podcast – link to podcasts.apple.com – explains very well why testosterone levels are a red herring. It’s quite long, but even though I hate boxing and think it should probably be banned altogether*, I found the talk interesting and it didn’t feel long.
*I am aware of the arguments about lifting young working class men out of poverty, but it’s the only “sport” where the whole point is injuring your opponent.
David Hannah
3 August, 2024 at 3:04 pm
“No doubt they’d be a massive counter protest in Glasgow as well.
Glasgow went mental over the whole Kenmure Street protest – where they stopped Priti Patel’s home office from deporting two Muslim men – probably here illegally.”
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David, they were not Muslims but Sikhs who were wel-regarded in the local community.
But had they been Muslims or Moonies or whatever, I’m sure they would have been defended.
“But if you want to control the borders. Talk about immigration you’re far right.”
David Hannah.
I’m not a fan of Tommy Robinson or his thugs, or far right ethics – however Scots need to talk about immigration and how to take control of their own borders back from England – on immigration Scotland is currently being swamped by folk from South of the border – this has to be greatly reduced, if Scots are not to be outnumbered in oor ain country – maybe not today or in ten or twenty-years but it will happen if we don’t ditch this illegal union – and taking control of immigration and our borders is a must.
As for U flags being welcome in my home town – speak for yourself – their are at least 28,000 of them in Scotland right now – I don’t support a N-e–o Na–tz-i ran regime and that’s what U is right now.
‘HOW SCOTLAND HATES WOMEN’ by Stuart Campbell (31 Aug 2023)
link to wingsoverscotland.com
As part of the very illuminating article above, Stuart Campbell shared the following alarming info which had been tweeted the previous day by Roddy Dunlop KC (to whom great credit), regarding “aggravation” protocols governing police action and inaction. Note essentially the final paragraph.
Roddy Dunlop KC wrote (30 Aug 2023):
“There has been some confusion about prosecutorial decisions of late. What follows is not aimed at any particular case. I know not why some cases are prosecuted and others are not. But the points below are perhaps not widely known.”
“Police are not obliged to report to the Procurator Fiscal every alleged crime. They have a discretion to issue warnings. However, that does not apply where there is an aggravation. If there is then, in general, the case must be reported to the PF.
“The PF is not obliged to prosecute every reported crime. Again, there is a discretion. Once more, however, the discretion not to prosecute is removed, or at least tightly circumscribed, where there is an aggravation.
“An aggravation relates to certain (but not all) characteristics. Thus race is covered. As is religion; and sexual orientation; and gender reassignment. Misogyny, however, is not an aggravation. Likewise, being gender critical may be covered under the Equality Act. But it is not covered by aggravations under the criminal law.
“Accordingly, neither an assault on a woman for being a woman, or for being a gender critical woman, is an aggravated crime. A report of such could be dealt with by police warning, or not prosecuted by the PF, under the discretions mentioned above.
“On the other hand, an s.38 (breach of the peace) which involves no assault but which does involve alleged hate crime (ie race, religion, sexual orientation etc – but not misogyny) is aggravated and, in general, must be prosecuted and is not subject to those discretions.
“What this means is a breach of the peace involving verbal abuse of certain minorities must be prosecuted; but the assault of a woman does not have to be. Whether this is desirable or advisable I leave to others. But it’s where the law stands right now.”
link to tinyurl.com
This is or Stu or anyone else with a sore throat.
Don’t go trying to sneak more Ibuprofen or Paracatemol from Superdrug but get these instead. They are only 39p! Buy three.
They used to be called soluble asprin now they are called Dispersible Aspirin.
Disolve one or two in water and then gargle with the mixture. It works a treat if you have a sore throat.
You wont need the expensive Strepsils and you’ll be quids in and able to buy some soothing ice lollies with the money you’ve saved.
“British patriot Tommy Robinson isn’t welcome in Glasgow.
Of course, he’s welcome in Glasgow. I say this as a Scottish nationalist.”
David Hannah.
Tommy Robinson – or as he’s also know as – Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is in my opinion working for the English security services – the plan is to stir up hate against ethnic communities using violence and thuggery, its an age old tactic.
For me Robinson is as welcome in Scotland as Nigel Farage is – basically not welcome at all – Voltaire once said – I may not like what you have to say – but I’ll defend it to the death, your right to say it – or words to that effect, however Robinson and his hoard of thugs preach violence and that is not on.
Ask yourself this – with all that’s going on in West Asia right now, isn’t it timely that hatred has been whipped against ethic communities – especially ones of a certain denomination.
@Sam
St Andrew’s University has previous in its links to Deepstate UK
Apart from being a place of study for mid-intellect Royals, it was the parachute drop zone for lowlife Bob Lambert who was given a lectureship. Lambert is the discredited Met/Special Branch who was instrumental in infiltrating Animal Rights and Anti Nazi League (amongst others). He and his cohort fathered several illegitimate children in the process.
Also of note is the speed with which Stephen Gethins secured his lecturing post after he was deposed in the 2019 General Election.
Jack McArthur: “your namesake knew about different cultures especially when he was being put to the flames.
Maybe, but he didn’t know about national cultures because nations — and the word nation as we use it today — didn’t exist. Nation states are really sort of abstract ideas. Yes, we are forced to acknowledge them, they’re the organisational basis of international law and democracies, but they’re really imagined, supernatural entities, much like ghosts and Gods.
It’s funny that people in here find this troubling but they have no problem in accepting that Britain is an invention, or the US is really just a bit chunk of stolen land, etc., etc. There are countless others.
Culture makes sense when you narrow the focus and are talking about people with shared experiences, shared language, shared religion, shared roles, and things they have in common. It might work for Pacific Island states, but it falls apart when you are talking about larger countries that have diversity in all those areas.
If Scotland ever gets to make its case for independence at some sort of International court, we should pray that it is on the basis of our democratic right to self determination as a country rather than our shared national culture. We might disagree on everything else, but even those who are against independence accept that Scotland is a country.
I’ve got nothing wrong with muslims and sikhs, I know many work with many, lovely people with Glasgow accents.
My problem is with the abuse of the immgration system. my rent is £715 a month mid market, used to be £360 private let until private lets shot up. by 100 per cent. Average cost of rent in Glasgow Maryhill, look at it now £900 for maryhill road.
I then go to work. And talk with all of these migrants. I’ve just arrived.
I’ve just arrived here.
“Anything’s better than private let” “anything’s better than private.”
“I’m getting council housing.”
You’ve just fucking arrived. You weren’t born in this fucking country.
But you’re a woman, you’re migrant. You get fucking priority over the fucking men
it’s a fucking disgrace.
Ach, heavy rain shower stopped fruit-picking work but not before another bush and 1.5 kilos of berries have been picked.
Ruby Saturday says: at 2:18 pm
“Why the reluctance to take part in a discussion about genderpish and defend yourself in the sex wars?”
Because discussion about genderwoowoo has been done to death, and it’s my view, as I stated years ago, that due to the emotive nature of the subject it is being used to divide and distract folk from having serious discussions about other matters. Clearly over the passage of time it has proven to be having that effect.
That’s not to diminish the impact it is having on society, but in these tough economic times it is my opinion that more people are concerned and prioritising their time and energy on trying to keep a roof over their family’s head and food on the table.
And just maybe a little more discussion on how these matters could be dealt with would be more helpful to the overall cause of returning Scotland to self-governing status, than the almost monotropic focus on genderwoowoo.
I’m also unaware of the need to defend myself of any accusation in the sex wars.
@ crazycat
At least in conventional boxing they wear padded gloves and at amateur level they wear helmets as well to protect and dissipate the forces of impacts.
I suppose you could class it as a variation of boxing but there are other “sports” with far greater chances of inflicting injuries on an opponent. Cage fighting is brutal, and women compete in that. I understand there have been transgenders entering too with Fallon Fox and Alana McLaughlin.
This country treats the men like human filth.
We’re treated like shit. We’re an afterthought.
Survival of the fittest.
Try not to commit suicide. While the fucking migrants come in and take your opportunities away.
They are taking everything from us. I include European migrants. Every last one of them.
We need ZERO migration. NET ZERO. until we build more houses. Bring housing costs down. Rental costs down.
our scumbag politicians need to to build houses for single men.
Affordable houses for single men. So that they can meet people. And live their lives.
Instead we’ve got nigerian plantations on the clyde. With safe acccess housing lists for international nurses. And Bring your granny to university.
Houses not available for glaswegian men. I’ve had enough.
Both my Papa’s fought fascist cunts.
Too many do not even know what fascist is.
They are not all stupid but rely on the stupid
@crazycat
Thanks very much. As I listened to it I realised I had already seen/heard that explanation. Just forgot.
It might take Court action to stop this.
Everywhere you look in Glasgow.
The SNP philosophy. Bring your granny to university. And the Nigerian plantation of your community.
How dare they.
These people are not the migrants our country wants or needs!
This is what is happening. People need to wake up. They are fracturing our society. They are driving up house prices. They are taking jobs from Scottish nurses. They are taking homes that Glaswegian men are not allowed to apply for.
They are taking our time. Our precious time in our lives. While we wait. At the bottom of the queue for something more affordable.
But Nigeria can come here. They can fucking just walk right on in. With their children. And take over.
This is a disgrace. Look at the bus stops. Look at your communities. Turning African. Middle Eastern.
Catholics and protestants of Glasgow. Unite over this. Rangers and Celtic unite. This land is your land. This land was made for you and me.
We need to put ourselves first. We do. Otherwise you’ll be dead before you know it! That’s what’s happening. WAKE UP!
Thanks Oneliner. Didn’t know about Lambert. He’s away and is now an “independent academic” whatever that is
Suichehall Street is a war zone.
Taken over, by the Deliveroo drivers and loitering migrant men – the illegal kind that is. The boat crossers form the third world.
Not the legal migrant type or even refugee type. The asylum seeker, boat crossing illegals – undocumented of course. But put up in hotels at the cost of £15 million a day.
Courtesy of the British Tax payer.
Their bikes have massive wheels. They snatch phones. They oggle the young girls. I went along to Transmit. I saw hundreds of migrants oggling the girls going to the music festival. These men have never seen women like this before. Women allowed to be free in the west.
This is what’s happening. In Susan 2 seats Aitken’s glasgow City council. She’s destroyed Suichehall street so no one goes there.
Where once our city was full of beautiful nightlife. It’s been replaced by migrant central.
They’ve destroyed our country. And destroyed our way of life. Our clubs. Our bars. Our pubs.
And we’re to blame. Us men. Us native men are to blame.
The fightback begins now. Over the next 5 years. The labour government have 5 years to start listening to the native men. Or Nigel Farage ends up as Prime Minister!
Wonderful how some folk see the cake taken off the plate by the laird and are then warned and armed against those after the crumbs and their plate .
Me ? Sorry. Am one lucky old bastard.
OP. Only ever raised hands in self defence against a woman as I consider them weaker. As a wee guy the size of an average woman, I would Gould go for a straight jab to the nose then a cunt kick .
Hatuey @ 4:24 pm
“Culture makes sense”
Indeed it does. You will find our national culture in oor national consciousness, tho that would perhaps be much easier if you were Scots. Which maybe explains why you are unable to locate our culture – for it is not in you.
As Frantz Fanon wrote:
“If culture is the expression of national consciousness, I will not hesitate to affirm that in the case with which we are dealing (i.e. the decolonization struggle) it is the national consciousness which is the most elaborate form of culture.”
Hence without our national consciousness there can be no national independence movement, and without a national culture there can be no national consciousness.
@ Dan at 4.39
I’m so old and so uninterested in sport that I’d forgotten about cage fighting and the like (they didn’t “exist” when I was vaguely paying attention). Now that you mention it, I remember that there have been some pretty serious issues with pseudo-women.
Good luck with the blackcurrants; I had a bumper crop this year.
on this particular occasion, I am a bit disappointed at the lack of rigorous research on the part of WoS.
to begin with: I share the sentiment of being absolutely appalled and shocked at what looks obviously as male fighting a female.
however, on this particular occasion, evidently the ‘maleness’ of the athlete is NOT down to being a xy-born transgender but rather due to a rare biochemical condition whereby male hormonal signalling is heightened. The end result is the same (as amply visible in the picture). However, the consequences should be to introduce more sophisticated testing.
any ‘normal transgender’ male athelete would have been detected as xy-carrier on karyogram. This athlete evidently has a perfectly female xx karyogram.
sometimes – annoyingly- things are complex
@ John Foerster at 5.44
The IOC person muddled up transgender and DSD; a correction was then issued. The IBA person said both boxers have XY chromosomes.
So it isn’t “evident” that the boxer has “a perfectly normal XX karyogram” – we don’t know, because the details of the tests that led to disqualification last year are, quite rightly, confidential.
If you listen to the podcast I linked above (link to podcasts.apple.com ) the alternatives are all thoroughly discussed by people who, unlike the IOC bod, know what they’re talking about.
“Nation states are really sort of abstract ideas. Yes, we are forced to acknowledge them, they’re the organisational basis of international law and democracies, but they’re really imagined, supernatural entities, much like ghosts and Gods.”
The first “great nation” state according to many reliable sources was Ancient Egypt and it lasted longer than anything that came after. Abstractions can have beneficial forms and though I am not a nationalist in the sense of this forum (Scotland is ruined totally with no way back – I voted for independence in 2014).
Borders can be a firewall against hostile infiltration by hostile forces who only wish to loot and destroy. Borders can protect a people of shared values in the broad brushstrokes, no matter their skin colour, or their accents.
The Taino were described in the most glowing terms by Colombus as being goodest of all people that could ever be imagined but that did no trump the lust for gold that was done in the name of Jesus of Mary (albeit his diaries reveal what another well known Hebrew describes as being pretend Christian i.e. he was a Hebrew) and so soon their hands had to be cut off if the monthly thimble of gold was not delivered to them by their now slave masters (Dum Diversas gave divine authority for their subjugation and enslavement).
Re the riots
So according to the BBC and Sky these riots are happening “ across the Uk” so naturally Scotland and Wales have to be involved despite the fact they are not.
@Republicofscotland 3:42
Of course you don’t support U.
They’re fighting for their survival against an invading, rapacious, militarist, imperial regime, which is under the control of a neo-Tsarist, murderous dictator you have the hots for.
And they’re holding their own too. Two and a half years and they still haven’t caved. How ineffectual and pathetic so-called Scottish patriots like yourself look when measured against that yardstick.
An old saying comes to mind – you’re not fit to lick their boots.
Oh and BTW. My country’s name is written as “Scotland”. You insult me and my country every time you post your ignorant twaddle. You insult every Scot.
Alert readers will be asking why you persist with this insult. Myself, I have already worked it out.
Alert readers may also be pondering why Hatey Mc”Hypocrisy”Hateface isn’t so bothered aboot lothianlad and P4lastine…
GasMain 6.23pm;
Alert readers scroll past you ya numpty.
Away back to your Daily Mail. Clown.
But it hasn’t Dan. I don’t know if you have noticed or not but this article is about what you describe as ‘genderpish’.
Is the reluctance to talk about ‘gender’ issues here BTL on Wings due to it being seen as a woman’s issue. Something for women to sort out?
I’m accusing you of being sexist. Not just sexist but manipulative & bullying.
See the last paragraph of:
link to wingsoverscotland.com
There you go! There’s something for you to defend yourself against in ‘the sex wars’
Folk can post about whatever topic they like and if some ‘women’ posting about ‘women’s issues’ distracts you or anyone else from the ‘important topic’ of ‘the price of mince’ or how to cut down on the cost of groceries by growing your own carrots then the topic can’t be all that important or interesting.
Same applies to the topic of independence/the franchise which are in fact topics that have absolutely been done to death.
A discussion which is going nowhere. It’s all just the same stuff being repeated over and over and over again. But hey it’s men who are talking so it must be important.
Some fascinating details being published in the MSM over the infiltration by Moss@d into Ir@n that lead to the recent death of the Humous boy.
I can see that Wings BTL is still largely wedded to the “Scotland as cuddliest, friendliest, wee country in the world” trope, but still, I can’t help wondering if the majority of “normal” Scots wouldn’t rally round a leader who decided that “Wha daur meddle wi me?” would garner more support.
It certainly works for me. Right now though, the muscular defenders of their unique cultures, identities, nations and languages continue to be labelled as fascists, nartsies and zoinists on here, so I guess we’re going nowhere.
@Dan 6:42
The long suffering P@lestinians are reaping the rewards of supinely throwing in their lot with a bunch of cynical, manipulative, exploitative, lying, self-serving, yellow bastards as leaders.
It’s the only parallel between the P@lestinians and the Scots I’m prepared to acknowledge.
As it happens though, the solution for both nations is the same. Wise up, grow a pair, and organise yourselves to be lead by politicians and leaders who will accept the world as it is, not as they want it to be in their deranged heids. In both cases, the long term outcomes will be better for everyone who isn’t a part of the ruling elites.
Anyway, I’ve made the mistake of debating with you in good faith before – I won’t be repeating it. You have Ruby Eight Days A Week to occupy your Saturday night. Good luck with that.
Just between us though, you might be better off working on the “conversion therapy” you posted about a few weeks ago. But don’t tell anybody I said that!
@ Ruby
What’s sexist about role reversals to right historic patriarchy wrongs. Are you now saying you don’t want equality of the sexes and blokes to takes on what were traditional female task / roles, whilst females take on what were traditional male tasks / roles.
I’d have been bang up for spending my time at home cooking, baking, gardening, raising kids, and my partner could have gone to work offshore for weeks on end to cover the mortgage and do all the hard physical work to keep the house and cars maintained. But that’s not how it panned out for me.
The discussion below this article has effectively been covered multiple times over many years with higher quality btl discourse by contributors like Morag educating us on the biological details relating to chromosome and genetic disorders. A simple search will find threads discussing Caster Semenya’s condition.
And that was all done without the divisive battle of the sexes you seem committed and determined to foment.
I suppose I could equally say your continued attempts to misrepresent what I’ve said or goad for a reaction are bullying, but I really don’t care because the more you attempt to agitate the more obvious your MO becomes.
MSM reporting the sinking of a submarine in the Black Sea.
MSM reporting that local authorities have declared a state of emergency around an air base targeted in retaliation for recent attacks on sovereign U territory.
Scottish patriots will be celebrating in solidarity with our Eastern European brothers and sisters tonight.