According to a new poll, fewer than a third of SNP voters even think independence is in the top three priorities facing Scotland.
It’s only five points ahead of immigration in fourth place, and seven ahead of housing. So it’s hardly surprising that the SNP aren’t bothering themselves about it. Their own support, like the party, is very comfortable with the way things are.
We were going to write something today for the anniversary of Alex Salmond’s tragic death, but then we read Kevin McKenna’s piece in today’s Herald On Sunday and we can’t improve on it, so go and have a read of that before you do anything else.
Alex always believed in looking forward, not back, so we doubt he’d be overly fussed at the pathetic “tribute” paid to him at the SNP conference this morning. What would undoubtedly have exercised him a lot more would have been the wretched current state of the party he loved and built from almost nothing into the dominant force in Scottish politics.
And nothing typifies that wretched state better than the craven and gutless capitulation of a speech given by Tommy Sheppard yesterday, opposing the rebel amendments to John Swinney’s non-strategy on independence.
It said a lot more than he thought it did, but none of it good.
It’s really very hard to overstate what mendacious, duplicitous shite this is.
It did its job, though. As expected, the SNP conference comprehensively voted down the rebel amendments to Swinney’s motion on independence “strategy” and backed his grand plan of winning a majority, begging Keir Starmer for a second referendum – just like Nicola Sturgeon and Humza Yousaf had done before him with Theresa May, Boris Johnson, Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak – and then scuttling obediently away with his tail between his legs when Starmer told him to get lost.
A little over two years ago, three SNP MSPs contested the leadership of the party in the wake of the sudden resignation of Nicola Sturgeon. All were full of grand plans and dreams for the future of the party, the nation and the independence movement.
None of the three is leader now, and in nine months’ time none of them will be SNP MSPs. Indeed, it’s overwhelmingly likely that none will be an MSP at all.
And that, readers, is not a sign of a party – or indeed a Parliament – in good health.
It can be very hard to follow the arguments of people trying to convince you to vote for the SNP on the regional list at next year’s election. Here’s one just a month ago:
So that’s clear – indy supporters MUST IGNORE the “siren voices” telling them to vote for smaller indy parties, because they can’t win any seats and therefore to vote for them is to “throw away” your list vote.
And this was them just two weeks ago, strenuously insisting that the small parties were a busted flush and there was no chance of a “non-SNP route to independence”:
So it was a bit confusing to read this yesterday:
Because all of a sudden, it seems that you CAN vote for the smaller indy parties, regardless of whether they win seats or not, because the list vote will actually be a de-facto referendum and the votes will still count. And indeed, apparently you SHOULD do so, because an SNP-only route – the thing which was the only hope a fortnight ago – is now “totally unachievable” and ONLY working in concert with the smaller indy parties can succeed.
Heavens, what huge transformative event did we miss?
Back in the 1980s and 1990s, before the internet, scammers used to have to work a bit harder to cheat people than they do now.
A popular method was to advertise a “clearance sale” in the press. You’d see an ad in the Daily Record or a local paper for an event in a High Street location – typically a vacant shop – promising brand-new TVs for £20, microwaves for a fiver, toasters for £2.50 or whatever. So you’d show up on the day and it always worked the same.
There’d be the ringmaster on a raised platform, surrounded by loads of unmarked white boxes, and he’d start off by picking some “random” punter from the crowd and bestowing gifts upon him. This guy would walk away with armfuls of swag for £25 or something (doubtless just going straight round the back with them), and the real show would begin.
Next the ringmaster would say “Now, before we get properly started, who’ll give me £10 for what’s on my mind?” (that phrase, “what’s on my mind”, was always the same). And basically they were flogging a mystery box, invariably containing a few trashy trinkets worth a fraction of the cost.
Any chump who bought one would then be escorted out of the shop before opening it, on the pretence that the bargains on offer in these sales were so great that they were limited to one per person. (There was always security on the door, sometimes even cops. There’s nothing intrinsically illegal about selling mystery boxes, even mainstream chainstores still do it today.)
And that was basically it. The ringmaster would delay and delay, punting more mystery boxes and never actually getting to the bit where you could buy a specific item at a specific price, and after a couple of hours the event would close down and the would-be customers would disperse in disgruntlement.
Seamus Logan, an SNP MP of whom it has often been said “Seamus who?”, has an article in The National today categorically ruling out Scotland achieving independence via a democratic vote in an event fully recognised by the UK government.
Logan’s stance that if begging Westminster for another Section 30 doesn’t work (which it doesn’t, hasn’t and never will) then it’s basically impossible and we should just give up has – to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention – been official SNP policy since at least the resignation of Nicola Sturgeon and in reality long before then, and we don’t think it’s a coincidence that the party has lost more than half of its members and over 40% of its voters over that period.
One of the very few phrases universally recognised in Scotland but which will draw blank looks anywhere else in the UK is the dry, dark “Well, ye ken noo”. Until recently it had no equivalent that we can bring to mind in the rest of the English-speaking world, although arguably that gap has now been at least partly filled by the acronym “FAFO”.
(We try not to swear on the site, so let’s say it stands for “Fool Around, Find Out”.)
So now the smoke has cleared, the troops have departed the battlefield and the winner is enjoying the spoils, what did we find out on Thursday night, and what didn’t we?
Lorna Campbell on Learning Insanity: “But it didn’t end, James. Had it ended, there would be no Union. It simply expanded to include the Treaty…” Jan 18, 18:29
TURABDIN on Learning Insanity: “Scotland has a rich intellectual history, dissident and questioning. That i respect, particularly valuable in a time when information is…” Jan 18, 17:27
Insider on Learning Insanity: ““James” Cheyne That is absolutely hilarious “James” !” Jan 18, 16:49
Hatey McHateface on Learning Insanity: “I’ve found Alf’s letter to the Moderator of the Church of Scotland. It’s written in English.” Jan 18, 16:46
Hatey McHateface on Learning Insanity: “What can I say, TURABDIN? If Scottish nationalism is indeed about intellectual reacquaintance with our immensely rich heritage, then the…” Jan 18, 16:23
Hatey McHateface on Learning Insanity: ““the most dangerous in the world” Yet you not only claim to know details of its inner workings, but you…” Jan 18, 16:14
Hatey McHateface on Learning Insanity: “Good one, Confused. There is no more pernicious religion than zealous antisemitism. Take a look in the mirror. As for…” Jan 18, 16:03
Hatey McHateface on Learning Insanity: “Wow! Welcome to 2026 – same as 2025! Post “Orcs” and up pops Implants with some “Great Satan” sophomoric drivel.…” Jan 18, 15:56
Fearghas MacFhionnlaigh on Learning Insanity: “TURABDIN, thank you for your thoughtful and informed contribution. My essential gripe is that few Scots seem to do any…” Jan 18, 15:50
James Cheyne on Learning Insanity: “this funny picture sprung into my head of unionist very busy on keyboards trying to..delete.. all the old available information…” Jan 18, 15:28
James Cheyne on Learning Insanity: “The treaty between Scotland and England either stands or it does not, IF it is claimed it still stands as…” Jan 18, 15:20
James Cheyne on Learning Insanity: “Strange though it may seem, The 1707 treaty of union for and of Scotland only refers to two gender biological…” Jan 18, 15:05
James Cheyne on Learning Insanity: “If religion came into it at all, then king Charles and the present governments would be in breach of the…” Jan 18, 14:51
James Cheyne on Learning Insanity: “The resulting evidence is that one half of a two country (duel international treaty) [ England ] cannot apply new…” Jan 18, 14:37
Xaracen on Learning Insanity: “James needn’t bother, Aidan. Your appeal to ‘established and recognised case law’ is indefencible on the matter of ‘the’ constitution…” Jan 18, 14:32
Confused on Learning Insanity: “Alf Baird has written an open letter to the church of scotland. Hmm. I keep thinking of that old tom…” Jan 18, 14:04
Confused on Learning Insanity: “https://archive.ph/RRubW https://archive.ph/0MvKL getting young folk off the fucking internet is now seen as being a good thing – unless its…” Jan 18, 13:55
James Cheyne on Learning Insanity: “Fearghus MacFhionnlaigh, The difference between policy and law. Law has precedence over policy. As policy is a proposal to becoming…” Jan 18, 13:40
James Cheyne on Learning Insanity: “Seeing as I don’t drink alcohol at all I obviously cannot make a comment on how alcohol has an effect…” Jan 18, 13:21
TURABDIN on Learning Insanity: “@Fearghas MacFhionnlaigh The great matter regarding history and its interpretations is that the victors usually write the «official» versions. Versions…” Jan 18, 13:18
Breastplate on Learning Insanity: “John Main, the real reason that the USA want power over Greenland, Venezuela and Ukraine, to name but a few…” Jan 18, 12:49
James Cheyne on Learning Insanity: “Reference to the dissolved united kingdom, It States in UK parliament and on records, that Great Britain Parliament end in…” Jan 18, 11:27
Hatey McHateface on Learning Insanity: “You’re bringing me back fond memories of Hogmanays of yesteryear, James. Although none of them ever amounted to 11 missing…” Jan 18, 11:18
James Cheyne on Learning Insanity: “I let the usual unionist have there rant, The information that I provided came with links over the years as…” Jan 18, 10:49
Hatey McHateface on Learning Insanity: “Good one, Confused. 30 seconds cursory internet search reveals that poot has been ramping up Orc presence and claims in…” Jan 18, 10:23
Hatey McHateface on Learning Insanity: “Whoops, YL, my bad. I now see that by coming up with a couple of playground names for the characters…” Jan 18, 10:02
Hatey McHateface on Learning Insanity: “A good post, Lorna. My view is that those of “us” blinded by suicidal empathy are a lot less numerous…” Jan 18, 09:50
Hatey McHateface on Learning Insanity: “If you are spared, Xaracen, plan to explain this many more times in the future. Meantime, why not explain what…” Jan 18, 09:33