According to a new poll, fewer than a third of SNP voters even think independence is in the top three priorities facing Scotland.
It’s only five points ahead of immigration in fourth place, and seven ahead of housing. So it’s hardly surprising that the SNP aren’t bothering themselves about it. Their own support, like the party, is very comfortable with the way things are.
We were going to write something today for the anniversary of Alex Salmond’s tragic death, but then we read Kevin McKenna’s piece in today’s Herald On Sunday and we can’t improve on it, so go and have a read of that before you do anything else.
Alex always believed in looking forward, not back, so we doubt he’d be overly fussed at the pathetic “tribute” paid to him at the SNP conference this morning. What would undoubtedly have exercised him a lot more would have been the wretched current state of the party he loved and built from almost nothing into the dominant force in Scottish politics.
And nothing typifies that wretched state better than the craven and gutless capitulation of a speech given by Tommy Sheppard yesterday, opposing the rebel amendments to John Swinney’s non-strategy on independence.
It said a lot more than he thought it did, but none of it good.
It’s really very hard to overstate what mendacious, duplicitous shite this is.
It did its job, though. As expected, the SNP conference comprehensively voted down the rebel amendments to Swinney’s motion on independence “strategy” and backed his grand plan of winning a majority, begging Keir Starmer for a second referendum – just like Nicola Sturgeon and Humza Yousaf had done before him with Theresa May, Boris Johnson, Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak – and then scuttling obediently away with his tail between his legs when Starmer told him to get lost.
A little over two years ago, three SNP MSPs contested the leadership of the party in the wake of the sudden resignation of Nicola Sturgeon. All were full of grand plans and dreams for the future of the party, the nation and the independence movement.
None of the three is leader now, and in nine months’ time none of them will be SNP MSPs. Indeed, it’s overwhelmingly likely that none will be an MSP at all.
And that, readers, is not a sign of a party – or indeed a Parliament – in good health.
It can be very hard to follow the arguments of people trying to convince you to vote for the SNP on the regional list at next year’s election. Here’s one just a month ago:
So that’s clear – indy supporters MUST IGNORE the “siren voices” telling them to vote for smaller indy parties, because they can’t win any seats and therefore to vote for them is to “throw away” your list vote.
And this was them just two weeks ago, strenuously insisting that the small parties were a busted flush and there was no chance of a “non-SNP route to independence”:
So it was a bit confusing to read this yesterday:
Because all of a sudden, it seems that you CAN vote for the smaller indy parties, regardless of whether they win seats or not, because the list vote will actually be a de-facto referendum and the votes will still count. And indeed, apparently you SHOULD do so, because an SNP-only route – the thing which was the only hope a fortnight ago – is now “totally unachievable” and ONLY working in concert with the smaller indy parties can succeed.
Heavens, what huge transformative event did we miss?
Back in the 1980s and 1990s, before the internet, scammers used to have to work a bit harder to cheat people than they do now.
A popular method was to advertise a “clearance sale” in the press. You’d see an ad in the Daily Record or a local paper for an event in a High Street location – typically a vacant shop – promising brand-new TVs for £20, microwaves for a fiver, toasters for £2.50 or whatever. So you’d show up on the day and it always worked the same.
There’d be the ringmaster on a raised platform, surrounded by loads of unmarked white boxes, and he’d start off by picking some “random” punter from the crowd and bestowing gifts upon him. This guy would walk away with armfuls of swag for £25 or something (doubtless just going straight round the back with them), and the real show would begin.
Next the ringmaster would say “Now, before we get properly started, who’ll give me £10 for what’s on my mind?” (that phrase, “what’s on my mind”, was always the same). And basically they were flogging a mystery box, invariably containing a few trashy trinkets worth a fraction of the cost.
Any chump who bought one would then be escorted out of the shop before opening it, on the pretence that the bargains on offer in these sales were so great that they were limited to one per person. (There was always security on the door, sometimes even cops. There’s nothing intrinsically illegal about selling mystery boxes, even mainstream chainstores still do it today.)
And that was basically it. The ringmaster would delay and delay, punting more mystery boxes and never actually getting to the bit where you could buy a specific item at a specific price, and after a couple of hours the event would close down and the would-be customers would disperse in disgruntlement.
Seamus Logan, an SNP MP of whom it has often been said “Seamus who?”, has an article in The National today categorically ruling out Scotland achieving independence via a democratic vote in an event fully recognised by the UK government.
Logan’s stance that if begging Westminster for another Section 30 doesn’t work (which it doesn’t, hasn’t and never will) then it’s basically impossible and we should just give up has – to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention – been official SNP policy since at least the resignation of Nicola Sturgeon and in reality long before then, and we don’t think it’s a coincidence that the party has lost more than half of its members and over 40% of its voters over that period.
One of the very few phrases universally recognised in Scotland but which will draw blank looks anywhere else in the UK is the dry, dark “Well, ye ken noo”. Until recently it had no equivalent that we can bring to mind in the rest of the English-speaking world, although arguably that gap has now been at least partly filled by the acronym “FAFO”.
(We try not to swear on the site, so let’s say it stands for “Fool Around, Find Out”.)
So now the smoke has cleared, the troops have departed the battlefield and the winner is enjoying the spoils, what did we find out on Thursday night, and what didn’t we?
James Cheyne on A matter of class: “Marie. They want the blood of our children, An interesting observation, if the first Great Britain 1707-1800 is not the…” Dec 29, 12:50
Mark Beggan on A matter of class: “Come to the light James. Free yourself from the colonial shackles. Join us in the Feasting halls. Your Fascist brothers…” Dec 29, 12:41
Alf Baird on A matter of class: ““Call it institutional bias, ideological capture, or just the law doing its job” My contention is that the public persecution…” Dec 29, 12:41
James Cheyne on A matter of class: “The voluntary union is another one of those social Contracts that has been sold as a white elephant. Binding on…” Dec 29, 12:30
Mark Beggan on A matter of class: “If it has been debated in Westminster then why are you going on about it? Do you think that repeating…” Dec 29, 12:26
Aidan on A matter of class: “In a turn of events everyone expected those figures are wrong; – GDP per capita in Scotland is about $53,000…” Dec 29, 12:24
Northcode on A matter of class: ““…invaded and occupied by Nazi Germany.” A temporary invasion lasting a haunfu o years is not colonization. The Scots were…” Dec 29, 12:02
Aidan on A matter of class: “I’m glad to hear that you must go, please don’t feel like you need to come back later.” Dec 29, 11:55
Alf Baird on A matter of class: ““public spending to GDP % ratio in the U.K. is not dissimilar to Norway” Aye, which also explains why public…” Dec 29, 11:48
James Cheyne on A matter of class: “Mark beggan, You obviously did not read it, just made a silly derogative comment, I do not get payed for…” Dec 29, 11:45
Northcode on A matter of class: ““…someone who claims to be a slave…” I’m a house slave and have managed to figure out my English master’s…” Dec 29, 11:43
Mark Beggan on A matter of class: “It pays to feed the wee birds. Just seen a Great spotted woodpecker in the garden. That’s my day made.” Dec 29, 11:42
James Cheyne on A matter of class: “Here in the land of reality called Scotland , we are already dealing with the first White elephant we were…” Dec 29, 11:37
James Cheyne on A matter of class: “As a salesman for the new world of civic Society and Social Contracts you will have prove it works for…” Dec 29, 11:33
Tinto Chiel on Off-topic: “Hi, Ian and Marie. Yes, to absent friends, of whom there are now too many. Life is but a melon…” Dec 29, 11:28
Northcode on A matter of class: ““…it’s essential to compare oranges with oranges.” Agreed… although in AI Dan’s latest incomprehensible collection of internet generated word dribblings…” Dec 29, 11:26
Aidan on A matter of class: “For someone who claims to be a slave you seem to spend a disproportionate amount of time posting drivel on…” Dec 29, 11:24
Marie on A matter of class: “They want the blood of our children for their upcoming wars. Give them nothing.” Dec 29, 11:23
Aidan on A matter of class: “The other thing is that the public spending to GDP % ratio in the U.K. is not dissimilar to Norway/Sweden/Denmark…” Dec 29, 11:21
Mark Beggan on A matter of class: “@James Cheyne Do you get paid directly from Qatar or is there a middle man account. Please don’t tell me…” Dec 29, 11:14
Northcode on A matter of class: ““It was God who gave Pictavia to the Picts who in turn, in an act of great generosity pleasing to…” Dec 29, 11:13
Northcode on A matter of class: ““those nations joyfully celebrating their liberation are significantly worse off than Scotland by almost every metric…” Yes… the Scots might…” Dec 29, 11:04
James Cheyne on A matter of class: “So unable to retire with as I should be able to, I keep posting to let everyone know the errors,…” Dec 29, 11:03
Northcode on A matter of class: ““One of the biggest differences compared to the U.K. and continental Europe is that Scandinavia didn’t industrialise…” One of the…” Dec 29, 11:00
Captain Caveman on A matter of class: “Yes, very good points Aidan. Fundamentally, in any comparative discussion such as this, it’s essential to compare oranges with oranges.…” Dec 29, 10:57
Marie Clark on Off-topic: “Good to hear from you Ian. Time to raise a glass to missing friends indeed. Cheers” Dec 29, 10:51
Aidan on A matter of class: “Of course most of those nations joyfully celebrating their liberation are significantly worse off than Scotland by almost every metric,…” Dec 29, 10:42
Mark Beggan on A matter of class: “@ Andy Ellis “Social Democracy” Unless women are treated with the respect that they deserve and everyone takes responsibility for…” Dec 29, 10:40
James Cheyne on A matter of class: “Andy Ellis, You will have forgive for stating where you can stuff your believe in Social Contracts, £10,000 worse off…” Dec 29, 10:35
James Cheyne on A matter of class: “Social contracts? They appear to be selective and non binding nowadays, Listening to the debates in Westminster over women not…” Dec 29, 10:20