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george

. . . when even the Heil thinks something’s a bad idea . . .

Barbara McKenzie

This project will elicit a range of responses, but two come to mind at once:
1) Opportunities for satire, such as your own
2) Widespread vandalism

I’m guessing it will turn out to be yet another ploy that comes back to bite unionists where it hurts.

Calum Craig

Danny Alexander’s last trolling of Scotland before he gets in his P45 in May.

HeehawBaws

So, every time we see that logo we can thank our masters for giving us some of our money back.

McHaggis

…can someone remind me, who funds the UK Government?

Truth

Love it.

I think the whole idea is a nonsense and will backfire.

creag an tuirc

I’m sure there’s room for a few “Caused by” ones too.

Peter Brown

I dare them to stick one of those signs on the wall at Holyrood.
(Because technically I suppose it is funded by UK govt! )

R-type Grunt

“It’s only right that we recognise the contribution of the UK taxpayer..” says Desparate Dan. Except that’s not what the sign says, is it Danny boy?

This is black ops. They’re baiting the guy (or girl) with the itchy trigger finger. I’ve said this before and I will continue to say it, they have nothing but contempt for us. They hate us. The real shame is that it’s being perpetrated by our own.

bookie from hell

bookies

Union Jack betting slip

worse value ever,you can have 5 winners and still not get stake back

link to sportsbettingcalculator.co.uk

Colin Mccartney

I really really struggle to understand why people put up with all of the above. Despite the media bias, all of the above have been reported ( eventually ) yet hundreds of thousands of people don’t seem to care or understand.

Tackety Beets

FB and Twitter are going mad , its like a rash .

The YES groups are showing their serious side and their fun side.

WM still don’t get it .

Good luck to Drew Hendry .

Betty Boop

Well, this could be an own goal, hopefully.

Is it popcorn time again? 😉

Tinto Chiel

Makes you pure proud of the Butcher’s Apron, by the way.

Not.

How long can we go on “shackled to a dying animal”?

W.B Yeats kent aa aboot it.

Foonurt

Big sumphy Danny, get yurr jaickit. Roll on 7th May, 2015.

Stoker

Funded by the UK Government
link to archive.today

Colin Dunn

“Send in your own favourites, readers.”

I’m no doubt a complete ignoramus, but how do we do that? Can’t see anything on your site about how to transmit images. Ta.

UncleBob

Should read “Funded by US” I mean us not the U.S.

Roll_On_2015

The sticker should read:

Funded by the UK taxpayer.

The UK Government does not have any money… except that which it collects from the UK taxpayer (including Scotland) and borrowed money from the BofE, also paid for by the UK taxpayer.

Or are the Tory bullshitters telling us lies.

The Government are just managers of that money to shift it about and to fill their trough in the process.

Big Jock

The really sad part is. They think we are so easily bought. That they can force that flag on us and it will make us British!

How long before they learn that enforced nationality has the opposite effect on any nation. The last act of a desperate man. You would think Canny Alexander would try and resume being Scottish. Given that he will be going to the local job centre in Inverness soon with his tail between his fat thighs!

Free Scotland

Funded by UK Government using wealth obtained by plundering Scotland.

Proud Cybernat

It was just asking to be done:

link to scottcreighton.co.uk

Stoker

Funded by the UK Government
link to youtube.com

Taranaich

I don’t think you can possibly top the Floating Duck Island. It encapsulates everything absurd and detached about Britannia.

GazR

The butchers apron is becoming harder to avoid it is already on food and appliances

george

i feel alien to someone who could suggest a course of action such as this: whether though incompetence, machination or malice.

does it bring matches or a trigger to my hand? no.

i’d rather them be defeated far more thoroughly than violence would allow.

PickledOnionSupper

How about some ‘rejected by Scottish voters’ stickers for our current MPs departing in May?

James Forrest

Off-topic this one, but here’s a wee article from my blog tonight friends … for anyone who read Cathy Jamieson’s comments on banking bonuses. If she’d been asked what she thought of thermal socks the answer would have carried more passion and conviction.

link to commentisntfree.com

For anyone who’s not read our magazine yet, there’s a link at the bottom of the piece 🙂

JeanieDeans

To make a Saltire simply borrow an apron from a friendly butcher and paint over the red lines with white gloss.

Lesley-Anne

Oh goodie goodie goodie. 😉

I get another chance, stop tawning at the back there! 😛 , to put this link up. 🙂

link to youtube.com

You never have too much of a good thing. 😀

Andrew Mc

Some ideas to spoof the delusory funded by UK Government logo:

1) Rendition Flights – a world holiday map of rendition., including Britain as a stop off point
2) Food banks – the famous. Danny Alexander looking chuffed standing beside food donations – sorry this is an obvious one
3) UK arms trade – Britain just loves arming countries with appalling human rights records.

Morag

For some reason I’m reminded of the day I became a republican. It was in 1993, and it was a big glitzy concert at Earl’s Court in honour of Her Maj’s “Forty Glorious Years” on the throne. I was in the choir, and when the whole thing started I had been chuffed to bits, saving my security pass as a memento of having sung for the Queen, that sort of thing.

Well, lots of things went wrong. It was badly run. We were kept waiting at rehearsals for hours while Cliff Richard and some other pop star I’d never heard of (Michael Ball?) rehearsed their numbers endlessly. The “London Sequence” went on forever. The entire acknowledgement of Scotland consisted of us (an English choir, I was one of only about three Scots in it) singing Amazing Grace in too high a key. (Is that song even Scots?) And the actual performance over-ran by about 100%, there was no interval and people (possibly including Her Maj) were wishing they’d put nappies on, and we could smell the slap-up supper burning behind us.

Maybe it was a combination of everything, but I had one of those epiphany “this is all a load of cobblers” moments. The big flashy performance designed to make everyone love the Queen turned one of the performers into a republican.

I just have a feeling that plastering Scotland in Union flags might not have quite the effect they’re looking for.

Kenny

Margaret Thatcher’s funeral?

You know, the woman who said the following in Perth in 1983:

“Let us never forget this fundamental truth: the State has no source of money other than money which people earn themselves. If the State wishes to spend more it can do so only by borrowing your savings or by taxing you more. It is no good thinking that someone else will pay – that ‘someone else’ is you. There is no such thing as public money; there is only taxpayers’ money.”

Her entire privatisation programme was funded by Scottish oil, and she repaid the favour by dismantling Scottish (and Welsh and English) industry.

Middenface

Not a meme but this link for #FundedbyUKgovernment says a lot about the evil brutish state.

link to listverse.com

Garrion

…and who funds the feckin UK government?

CalumCarr

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Papadox

How GREAT BRITAIN protects and supports its colonies. This all started under Harold Wilson and his Labour government.

– To make way for the base some 2,000 native Chagossians were forcibly removed from the island by the British government between 1968 and 1973. The islanders have since sued unsuccessfully for the right to return home. The Times 13/08/2014

The poor people were transported into concentration camp conditions and are still there in Mauritius.

Paul

My understanding is that this will only apply to infrastructure projects directly paid for by the UK government. So, despite what the papers say, not roads and bridges which are paid for by scotgov (or by the SNP according to Kez).

What infrastructure in Scotland is actually paid for by the UK government? There is a chance this label will only be able to be attached to a few underground fibre-optic cables.

Auld Rock

Stoker. Liked the link to ‘archive’ but I’m sure you noticed that the Highland Clearances are not mentioned, this was ‘ethnic cleansing’ of the worse kind.

Auld Rock

Almannysbunnet

Never cease to be amazed by the Kingdom of Stupid. As soon as I saw Fanny Alexander was promoting this “funded by the UK Government” idea I thought this isn’t going to end well. It has PR disaster written all over it! The ink is barely dry on this “brilliant” idea from our Imperial Masters and we are already awash with several alternatives, “funded by Scottish Oil” for starters. We could also start a line in “Underfunded by the UK government”. The possibilities are endless!

Marco McGinty

Could we add;

The deaths of millions of people throughout the world, since the creation of the “glorious” union, including the murders of thousands of innocent UK citizens.
Illegal wars, resulting in the deaths of many thousands of innocent Iraqi and Afghan civilians.
Massacres throughout the world.
Ethnic cleansing.
Torture flights.
Concentration camps.
Internment camps.

davidb

Well its going to be hard to boycott bridges and the like, but its hard to forgo cooked meat, cheese and Audrey’s pickled beets. But if that’s what we have to do, then that’s what we have to do.

It must be affecting sales of produce by now, all those giant union flags. Anyone seen any feedback? Trade magazines maybe?

Oh, and I would wonder in your first illustration whether children should be afraid of more than 1 of the people in the picture.

Croompenstein

Syrian nerve gas …. Funded by the UK Government…

Chic McGregor

OT Just caught on BBC 4 what seems to be a prelonged UKIP PPB.

This sheet of facts came up.

Stopped reading after the first so called fact:

“There are 2.3 million EU citizens living in the UK”.

Utter bollocks, there are 63 million EU citizens living in the UK.

Next.

Alan McHarg

I suggested on another thread that we should combat this with stickers “funded by Scottish oil” (with the saltire of course)spread wherever appropriate, throughout the uk. I’ll get ma coat!

Ian Brotherhood

Liz and Phil on holiday in 1955, slaughtering wildlife, as one does…

link to all-creatures.org

Proud Cybernat

And this one was just begging for it:

link to scottcreighton.co.uk

Alan McHarg

What about Willie MacRae?

Lesley-Anne

I wonder if the wee weans at Westminster have been *ahem* “stung” by this article in the Sunday Express on 3rd February. 😉

link to archive.today

Clootie

To Labour in Scotland – “To succeed in politics, it is often necessary to rise above your principles.”

Alan McHarg

The first image makes me feel sick and sums up why we have to escape from this rotten political union!

Taranaich

We all may laugh, but to me, this is just another in a long line of “we love you Scotland, but remember: we OWN you.”

We have to put “United Kingdom” as our country in drop-down lists online, and click on a Union Flag when asked to “select your country” when they mean language.

We have Union flags on our driver’s licenses.

We had the “apolitical” Red Arrows trailing the Red, White and Blue over the Scottish Commonwealth Games.

We sang “God Save the Queen” at the Scottish Commonwealth Games.

We have the BBC, who generously allocate 3% of their budget on 8.4% of the population (and 10% of their funders).

How much more of this indignity are we going to put up with?

Never mind the fact that it’s “funded by the UK government.” Not even “UK taxpayers”: the UK government. So not only do they own Scotland, they own the UK. This is insulting to the people of the UK, not just Scotland.

After all, they think they own us.

galamcennalath

Very appropriate might be a nuclear detonation ie mushroom cloud, Funded by UK Government.

Faltdubh

Do you think Alexander kens he’s fúcked in May and decided this as one last act of Unionism?

My friend who(I think) is a Green party member lives in Danaidh’s const and even he’s voting SNP. He has told me that there seems to be a wide load of support for the SNP.

ronnie anderson

@ Alan McHarg 11.01 you,ll be suprized how far your suggestion travels, get yer coat aff.

orr

They will make us all get tattoos next if we have the cheek to be getting benefits. ‘Funded by UK Government’.
….god I hope I haven’t given the powers that be any ideas!

Almannysbunnet

Fun Dead by UK Government!

No no no...Yes

Three questions:

Why now?

What does the Labour Party and its patriotic Scottish Leader Jim Murphy think about this?

Each day is getting more and more bizarre with the level of stupidity and incompetence. Is this some huge diversion from something?

Kenny

To all those who advocate “Paid for by Scottish oil” stickers, it would only be right to also print an equivalent number of stickers saying “Paid for by Scottish whisky exports” or possibly “Paid for by Scottish electricity”.

If you remove Scotland’s massive net exports from the British accounts, you will see that the UK is basically Greece minus the sunshine, islands and ancient heritage.

If you took Scotland out of the UK, the rBritish currency would bomb, while an independent Scottish currency would appreciate by an equivalent amount, making it stronger than the Swissie, the old DM, probably even the Norwegian krona.

Anyway, how can anything be *funded* by the UK government? They are just the holders of the collected taxes. You could as well say “funded by the Inland Revenue employees” and slap a butcher’s apron on it.

My contribution: Jim Murphy’s wasted decade spent as a “student”, which did not actually end with an actual degree! And please remind me of his position on student fees again???

Tattie-bogle

Can any experts tell if this is fake. if not funded by the UK
link to facebook.com

bookie from hell

Ian Brotherhood says:

1 March, 2015 at 11:01 pm

Liz and Phil on holiday in 1955, slaughtering wildlife, as one does

bfh–you can be sure Tiger was drugged a few days earlier for Phils lucky shot

Dave the Squirrel

Sorry if, in my enthusiasm, I skipped to commenting and somebody has already thought of this.

Can we have all the London banks’ premises watermarked with “Funded by the US taxpayer”?
Clearly the establishment likes having a good laugh. They’ll really appreciate the humour of it I’m sure.
Feel free to go to town on any EU-funded stuff as well.

Great pics btw. Bookmarked. Will be used over and over and over I’m sure.

Onwards

This is unnecessary in England, so looks like obvious propaganda in Scotland.

But to what extent?
Scottish spending is mainly devolved..

Perhaps the Scottish Government SHOULD counter this if it goes ahead.

Similar Scottish Government Saltires at the new South Glasgow Hospital?

Over the new Queensferry Crossing, and up a dualled A9 ?

If they want a battle of the flags, I would be tempted to say ‘Bring it On’

Big Jock

I hear they are putting one on the big black submarine at Faslane:” Funded By UK owned by USA”.

Marcia

Alan McHarg

Put your coat away. Good idea.

Dr Jim

Trades description might disagree
There is nothing funded by the UK Government they have no money they only have a loan of ours and that’s going to stop
and we have people who can make that happen
And i don’t mean Harvey Keitel
A demonstration is being arranged, coming to an MP near you

GrahamB

Will this nonsensical, offensive idea last longer than ‘Yes for Labour’ or not?
Anyway, there are still a few ‘Reclaimers’ from the 2001 Foot and Mouth rubbish still active – we were pretty adept at removing misleading, illegal and stupid signs telling us to geroffmoiland. That nasty episode lead very rapidly to the Land Reform Act so maybe this latest stupidly will lead to great things.

heedtracker

All their ridiculous funded by UK.gov will be gone as fast as they go up.

“The entire acknowledgement of Scotland consisted of us (an English choir, I was one of only about three Scots in it) singing Amazing Grace in too high a key. (Is that song even Scots?)”

Of course it is Morag. Hollywood says so, its only logical.

link to youtube.com

Christian Wright

They will scar our land with their mark of occupation. Symbols of 300 years of subservience & humiliation. They are spraying their territory, signaling that they are the owners and the masters.

The SNP is plain wrong, this isn’t a “gimmick”. It is a vindictive act calibrated to insult and demean. The Imperium is going to demonstrate its dominance by pissing on Scotland with signage. How cosmically dumb is that?

Could they Keystone-cops balls this up more? Absolutely they could. I have enormous confidence in their infinite capacity for stupidity.

During the referendum campaign they fear-bombed us, bullied us, belittled us, lied to us, defamed us worldwide. Therein they sowed the wind, and come May 7 2015, they will reap the whirlwind.

Sure, it will take even a while yet before they receive their comeuppance, but we should welcome that pause, savour it; for YES is a dish best served cold.

Paula Rose

Where’s the Irn Bru?

Big Jock

Its pretty obvious what the subliminal message is. Look we funded this and that. You couldn’t survive without the union..blah…blah.Look at what we do for you.

I suspect this comes down to one thing. They are genuinely expecting another referendum in a couple of years. I suspect its to do with the Euro referendum creating the break up of the union. The campaign for the unionists has started already.

Paula Rose

As drunk by dim Jim.

Mike

Ha ha, brilliant!

BrianW

I see that this story is not a ‘headline’ story on BBC Wales, BBC Northern Ireland or the England section on the BBC web sites.

Only pages I can see it is on main UK Home page (way down the rankings) and BBC Scotland page. Must be lacking news in Scotland – it’s story no.2 on the main Scotland page.

Just a wee reminder from our Better Together uKok partners at P.Q eh. Maybe we should have it plastered on the side of their shiny glass box on the Clyde.

[…] Asking for it […]

Brian Doonthetoon

Hi Taranaich (say ‘hello’ to your mum).

You typed,
We sang “God Save the Queen” at the Scottish Commonwealth Games.

Who’s the “WE”? Certainly not the Scottish team.

link to youtube.com

bookie from hell

Local newspapers says latest polls for East Ren have Murphy 33% and @kirstenoswald 31%. Game on. #GE15 #voteSNP

mjaei

where’s trident?

Ian Brotherhood

Posted this earlier, but it didn’t show.

Scary close-up of Phil The Greek.

‘Funded by UK Government’ :

link to teamnetworks.net

mjaei

Sorry, I’m an idiot, didn’t see the subs behind the aircraft carrier…

Kenny

We all know about politicians like former Trotskyite Darling flipping his way to a property empire. But what is it about unionist politicians and their DENIAL that they are funded by the “UK government”?

It is not just Malcolm Rifkind, who bizarrely claimed that he was “self-employed” when he was recently discovered to be open to bribes and corruption. Our own beloved self-proclaimed “son of the Manse”, the revolting Broon, went to Dubai and announced to one and all that he was “self-employed”.

Unbelievably, it was a BBC (!) journalist out there who showed that even BBC employees have more integrity than Broon and forced him to admit that he was still milking the system for all it was worth (and not showing up for work at the same time).

Still, bet the revolting creature Broon, like all unionist politicians, has a lot to say about “benefit scroungers”…. I don’t know whether we can also say that the lonely death of David Clapson was “financed” by the UK government… “planned” or “engineered” or “caused” would seem to be more accurate words.

Edulis

#Kenny @ 10.48 pm

Wasn’t Thatcher’s speech in Perth also the one which had the line, “We English are a very generous people”.

Lesley-Anne

Sorry for going O/T here but the Independent seems to have a wee bit of news concerning the BBC tax that no one bothers to pay these days. 😉

link to archive.today

Malcolm

Fantastic own goal. Obviously I am not advocating criminal damage but these Union flags will need to be 100 ft in the air and surrounded by barbed wire and searchlights to last the week.
On the contrary proud Scot buts are unlikely to deface the Saltire (a few Orange order George Square type gibbons excepted).
Telling us we are British and sticking the flag everywhere doesn’t make it so.

Onwards

@Taranaich I agree.

It’s not like we don’t already have the Union jack everywhere already.

Flying over Edinburgh castle to boxes of mushrooms in Tescos.

But the Scottish Government are too nicey-nice at times.

We are getting union jacks on our driving licenses, but Nicola puts the kibosh on a national anthem..

The Scottish Government should use this as an opportunity to play them at their own game.

Use the exact same argument: “It’s important to recognise the contribution of the Scottish taxpayer”

And if anyone had a case, it is them.

How many people still don’t know what Holyrood pays for?

There is still a lot of confusion over the NHS because of the similar name.

‘NHS Scotland’ sounds like a sub-branch of the UK NHS

If there was a poll on who funded the new South Glasgow hospital, I wonder how many people assume the UK Government paid towards it?

Ian Brotherhood

Two properly overdressed dudes in this snap.

One is Nicholas II, Tsar of Russia, and the other is George V. Can you guess which is which?

Only one of them was funded by the UK Government.

link to upload.wikimedia.org

Training Day

@Christian Wright

Well said sir.

It is indeed a mongrel lifting its leg on a despised but necessary territory. In short, they are sticking two fingers up at us.

But 55% of us voted to enjoy this treatment.

Didn’t we, you people on here who hate the BBC but have ineffable faith in the Electoral Commission?

James Forrest

bookie from hell:

Do they really? Is it as close as that?

Oh man, you’ve made my night 🙂

Lenny Hartley

O/T Looks like a Grand Red/Blue Tory pact is on the agenda.
From Labour List

link to archive.today

kininvie

They just don’t understand Twitter, do they? #fundedbyukgovernment – take a wee look; it’s a joy.

GallusEffie

@Almannysbunnet at 10:57

I did a tweet yesterday afternoon on the underfunded thing.

(Hope this link works ok, I’m new to commenting on here)

link to twitter.com

CameronB Brodie

My ‘favourite’ project “Funded by UK Government”, has to be the efforts of both Tory parties to ‘re-model’ the middle east.

Squeezed to death
Half a million children have died in Iraq since UN sanctions were imposed – most enthusiastically by Britain and the US. Three UN officials have resigned in despair. Meanwhile, bombing of Iraq continues almost daily. John Pilger investigates

link to theguardian.com

Destruction of a country’s social infrastructure has to one of the quickest ways of topping a regime. I think such deliberate action might be considered a war crime, given the resulting impacts.

Destruction to infrastructure that is vital for public health
link to informationclearinghouse.info

COSTS AND CONSEQUENCES OF WAR IN IRAQ
link to cesr.org

I would imagine these figure err on the conservative side of death, but that’s nit picking. A war crime is a war crime.

As we are talking Scottish politics.

“In politics you make a lot of speeches, but some of them you put more effort into than others.” Murphy smiles. “The argument I’m keen to develop is, how do you stop one-and-a-half unpopular wars – with Iraq certainly being unpopular and Afghanistan at least partly there – creating an unpopular concept? The unpopular concept is that you have a responsibility beyond your own borders.” – Jim Murphy MP

Aged 12, he emigrated with his family to Cape Town, after his father became unemployed. “In South Africa you get a different type of inequality. Not based on class or family structure, but on the obvious thing, race. I went to a white-only uni. I went to a white-only school. I played football in white-only football teams. The only Africans you would meet would be folk who worked in the school.”

He credits these two experiences with his politics of “utter, unconditional intolerance of prejudice – it’s in my DNA, having seen what the politics of discrimination can do.”

link to totalpolitics.com

@ Jim Murphy
Two questions. How does bombing a country back to the stone-age, ‘intervention’, provide humanitarian aid? Does your neck turn your shirt collar green?

bookie from hell

REV–read this an weep

link to scotsman.com

Morag

Of course it is Morag. Hollywood says so, its only logical.

link to youtube.com

OK, I looked it up. Should have done that 20 years ago. All I knew was that it wasn’t a song or a tune that had any resonance with me as traditionally Scottish, and I remember trying to hide under a cinema seat in a Boston (Mass.) cinema when I first saw The Wrath of Khan in 1982.

link to en.wikipedia.org

“Amazing Grace” is a Christian hymn published in 1779, with words written by the English poet and clergyman John Newton (1725–1807).

Ordained in the Church of England in 1764, Newton became curate of Olney, Buckinghamshire, where he began to write hymns with poet William Cowper. “Amazing Grace” was written to illustrate a sermon on New Year’s Day of 1773.

It has been associated with more than 20 melodies, but in 1835 it was joined to a tune named “New Britain” to which it is most frequently sung today.

The only reference to Scotland in the article is that the tune was recorded in a version for pipe band by the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards.

The tune is noted as anonymous, with the first published version dating back to 1829. It was in 1835 that it was first matched up to the Amazing Grace words. All the connections I can find for the tune are American, and both places called “New Britain” are (unsurprisingly) in the USA.

So, the single very short piece chosen to represent Scotland in this extravaganza of homage to our dear Queen from all parts of the British Isles was – an 18th century English hymn linked with and early 19th century American tune, which only acquired cod-Scottish associations in 1972 when a military band played a pipe band arrangement of it. (In contreast the “London sequence” lasted for about half an hour and there was extensive representation from other regions of Engand.)

Scotland, a country with a distinctive nusical heritage going back hundreds of years, acknowledged by such greats as Felix Mendelssohn.

There was some muttering from the few Scottish members of the choir that the choice was odd, and not something we recognised as Scottish, but I don’t think any of us had any real idea of the depth of the ethnomusicological slur our country was subjected to that night.

liz g

Feeling so guilty
When I first heard about the signs
Thought here we go…
Let’s all start fighting about what flag goes where,as has been tried and tested in the (not too distant)past.

Should have known better.
The yes supporters responded brilliantly with the one thing the Establishment can’t handle.
Our humour ….and everyone gets it…

So proud of the response ..

Morag

Ooh, I wish we had the edit feature so I could fix the typos in that lot!

Robert Peffers

UncleBob says: 1 March, 2015 at 10:28 pm:

“Should read “Funded by US” I mean us not the U.S.”

You know something, UncleBob? Your post brings to mind a fact that most folks know but don’t really realise the implications.

Just as the London Establishment blithely ramble on as if they run not just the UK but constantly talk about such as, “The British Government”, when they mean the UK Government then the United States of America, do exactly the same.

They talk of their country as America as if they alone are America. Yet America runs from pole to pole and includes many other countries. They also, as you just did, Speak of The US as if they alone are the United States. Even the USA is wrong for, and here’s the bit many don’t quite realise, their next door neighbours live in a country that is properly called, “The United States of Mexico”.

I may well be wrong but to me both the Unionists of the UK and the Unionists of the USA are very arrogant people. No slight intended to the normal folks in both countries both of whom I’ve always found to be the salt of the Earth. What a pity the arrogant ones make such trouble for the rest of us.

Lesley-Anne

Here’s the archived version bookie.

link to archive.today

I haven’t read it all … YET!

To be honest not sure I want to … computer might feel the wrath of my ire … or is the ire of my wrath? 😉

Anyway thuis b*****d has a bloody cheek!

North Sea #@*&£$% reserve fund is it?

What the @#$% has he and his *ahem* socialist mates been doing since the mid 1970’s?

WHY has he and his brainless gormless dunderheids done NOTHING about this before?

Oh wait … hold the front page folks I know why … they couldn’t give a s***e about Scotland before. Now however, it is a different thing cause the S.N.P. are now on the scene. Not only are the S.N.P. on the scene but they are on the cusp of giving Labour such a kicking in May that they, hopefully, will NEVER recover.

Question. What can we do to save the remnantsof Labour … up steps Broon the Loon … “I have a cunning plan” says he …

Come on Scotland for GAWD’s sake WAKE THE HELL UP!”

Lesley-Anne

Oops!

Who’s a TERRIFIED wee laddie then … Danny? 😀

link to archive.today

karmanaut

@bookie from hell 12:34

People need to read that link.

If the UK government are taking ownership of the Scottish oil fields, then they know the union is finished.

They are depriving Scotland of her resources before the split. Even debating this kills the union.

CameronB Brodie

Err…tigers aren’t generally found in Africa. (puzzled smiley)

What did I just watch – tourist footage of the Bucketham Palace and…?

george

wheeling out brown again? they must be filling their pants.

talking about part-nationalisation of the north sea? that’ll piss off the entire damn planet.

Kenny

I think this whole shambles of a policy is going to badly backfire. I think it will turn NO voters away from “ukok”, because they are the ones shelling out money and then seeing Westminster carry on as if this is all done solely out of the goodness of Dave and Gideon’s hearts (of stone).

So will the royal palaces also be plastered in “funded by uk gubmint” signs? The queen’s meals? Will her tupperware also be stamped with butcher’s aprons? What about the bombs dropped on Syrian children, Afghans, Iraqis?

And as sick and stomach-churning as it may seem, we cannot hide the fact that the rape of children was also “funded by the uk government” in the cases of known BBC employees, members of parliament…. and should such signs also hang over the graves of slaughtered Irish people?

For me, the butcher’s apron will forever be linked to the images of jubilant unionists giving the Nazi salute in George Square. It would be better for this ill-thought-out policy to be quietly dropped… and for “the uk government” to turn its attention to more pressing problems, such as the stinking corruption that pervades its ranks.*

* To my mind, this problem can never be solved, because it is absolutely inherent to the Westminster system; basically corruption and Westminster are like siamese twins which cannot exist without the other… better break up this stinking, fetrid union and start again…

Lesley-Anne

I’ve just been talking with my partner about tomorrow’s news headlines:

link to archive.today

link to archive.today

link to archive.today

Also not forgetting the Butcher’s Apron “Funded by UK Government” poster plans.

Let’s just say I’m glad that it is ME who comments on here and not her. 😉

I know some folks think I am sort of modest in my thoughts … you know who you are, stop hiding in the corner ther 😛 … well count your lucky stars it is me cause what we have just discussed, U.D.I., makes me look definately non political! 😀

Onwards

@Big Jock says:

Its pretty obvious what the subliminal message is. Look we funded this and that. You couldn’t survive without the union..

That’s it exactly.

And I suspect there is far more to this than rural broadband cabinets and ‘infrastructure’

Where will it end?
Union Jacks on every electricity pylon feeding into the national grid?

David

Jim Murphy’s erratic brain full of unworkable daft ideas, funded by the UK government.

RascalRachael

@CameronB Brodie 12:20pm
That it is undeniably devastating and tragic for all the families and the relatives of those involved cannot be disputed. We are left with the supposed disconnect between their helplessness and those related to the larger family of people directly involved. I fear how the resulting tragedies, brought about by our own government, must inspire the desire of those ‘indirectly’ affected to take action. As a parent who has experienced an over whelming love for my child, I cannot begin to understand the grief of those who have lost theirs.

War is terror. To claim otherwise is a lie. To have such a philosophy as ‘war on terror’ is to emphatically,deliberately and hypocritically to miss the point.

Terror is imported to the UK because the UK exports terror.

It is all wrong, stop exporting terror and imports of terror will fall – is that not the economic law of the free market?

ronnie anderson

Is that the UncleBob 10.28 that was at the Invergowrie nite out, is he still british & dizzna like Papes fae (Maryhill is full of Papes ) ma ears were working fine that nite.

Kenny

“Funded by the UK government”

link to contentwithpictures.com

karmanaut

Guys,

link to archive.today

Gordon Brown’s plan to “save” Scottish oil involves what he calls a “joint ownership” of the oil fields between the UK government and the private sector.

Surely that can only be set up as a private package in which the UK government owns shares and the private sector also owns shares.

So it would be a private company.

Am I mad or isn’t that correct?

So say the UK gov owns 50% of the shares in a private oil field umbrella company, and the private sector owns the other 50%…

And Scotland gets independence.

Tha oil field that *used* to be Scottish, is now owned by a company that the rUK half owns.

So an independent Scotland’s share of that oil field is no longer 100%.

It is now 9% of the UK half share.

Are we being robbed here?

This is *really* important. But I don’t know if I’m right.

george

people i cannot emphasise enough the importance of the bomb that gordon brown has just chucked over his shoulder on the way out the door.

even the slightest hint of the uk nationalising aspects of brent crude production will have sphincters clenching from houston to hong kong.

Lesley-Anne

Sorry for going O/T but thought folks would like to see a wee comparison here.

First up is wee Murph the Smurph and his *ahem* I have a plan video.

Second up is the S.N.P. response. 😀

link to youtube.com

link to youtube.com

Now which video makes you feel proud and actually worth something? 😉

ronnie anderson

@ CameronB Brodie see whit happens when the GPS signals lost

Molly

Leslie-Anne
Reading that article by Gordon Brown , does that mean , he’s seriously suggesting , the UK Govt go into partnership with the oil companies ? Does that mean the oil based in the water off Scotland would be lifted right out of our hands?
Is he seriously suggesting to the people of Scotland, we will ( under the guise of investment) take one of your biggest assets, blocking Scotland out in any future where oil is concerned and sell you this idea is a good thing ?
Never mind Trident , get Brown out , he’s more damaging to Scotland at the moment !!!

CameronB Brodie

ronnie anderson
lol, though it took a second or two. 😉

ronnie anderson

@ Lesley-Anne 12.49 read 1st para (depleted fields) TaxPayer picks up the DECOMMISIONING COSTS nationalised ma ARSE

ronnie anderson

this night hawks gone tae bed catch you,s laters

Lesley-Anne

I didn’t read … scratch that … I couldn’t read the whole article Molly. However, the pish that I did read would tend suggest that you are correct.

This excuse of an extremely soon to be EX politician … and NOT before time … is a walking disaster for Scotland. He does NOT give one iota of consideration for Scotland he only cares about ONE thing Britain, where Scotland is NOT Scotland but refered to as North Britain … as he often has done!

I am not one to use this word lightly, and I generally tend to avoid using it at all costs. However, in this particular case I definitively will make an exception.

Gordon Brown you are the worst kind of QUISLING that ever inhabited planet Earth!

Damn, I think I’m on a rant-fest tonight. 😀

karmanaut

@ronnie anderson

Depleted fields.

Yes, but “depleted fields” will quickly become “unviable fields.”

And who decides what fields are “unviable”?

Well, if they expect the oil price to stay low, or even fall, then a lot of those fields are unviable.

And these could be the opinions of “real experts”, you know?

So the UK could take part ownership of lots of those fields.

But hey, if the oil price happens to go up at some point, or the field later turns out not to be as “unviable” as everyone thought, well grand…

The UK is now left to deal with that burden of profit.

I have had a few tonight, but this to me seems like we are being totally robbed.

george

ok folks in laypersons’ terms:

– remember the size of the strop the states threw when chavez nationalised venezuela’s oil?

– the north sea was the largest non-OPEC producer, still largest for “conventional” oil, stuff that isn’t from fracking or tar sands

– 60% of the *world’s* oil is priced according to brent, including most OPEC oil

– and suddenly brown is talking about nationalisation? doesn’t matter what details, just talking about it is going to clench sphincters.

so yeah, just making the speech is going to make things distinctly interesting, even if some of his ideas are sound.

the fact that he’s talking about westminster doing this as part of partnership schemes would give westminster *at least* partial control of production in scottish fields.

Lesley-Anne

Don’t worry about the oil price karmanaut it is already on its way back up again. That fall from $115 down to $46 didn’t last long. 😉

link to thisismoney.co.uk

You can keep an eye on the live oil price here.

link to livecharts.co.uk

Molly

Rant on Leslie-Anne, your making sense to me !

George , you obviously know a lot more about this than I do but in laymans terms , partnership schemes in G B are ‘ partial control’ but in other parts of the World it’s called annexation?

george

@karmanaut. yes, exactly that.

george

lesley-anne

to be clear:

gordon brown has just suggested that westminster should make a smash-and-grab raid on north sea oil

CameronB Brodie

RascalRachael
I wish things were that simple, though I don’t completely disagree with the process you describe.

The trouble with blow-back is you just have no idea what form it will take. Though the USA has been keen on helping Wahabism spread around the world since the 1950’s, I think the fuse was lit on our current problems, in the mid 1970s. President Ford trades tolerance of Saudi Arabia’s export of Wahabist extremist in 1975 (?), to ensure oil is traded in dollars. Then the CIA launched Operation Cyclone u8nder Carter, in 1979.

link to en.wikipedia.org

link to telegraph.co.uk

Mrs Grimble

That Buck Palace video is fake:link to jonrosling.com

george

molly

when i’m not ill i’m an energy analyst for small renewable projects, but i have a bit of knowledge of the wider energy industry.

effectively annexation yeah. it would work just as karmanaut described.

(same as with our renewables and the OFGEM connection charges, in fact same as the scottish coal industry, although that was before my time.)

karmanaut

But, and please forgive me if I’m not getting it, what if Brown isn’t strictly talking about nationalising the oil?

What if he sets it out as a new private venture, which will be partly in public ownership (to provide a stable government backed pool, or fund, to assist companies when times are tough)?

He would essentially create a new private venture which would then own the actual fields, of which the UK gov would have a stake in. (Make it a stake of 90%, if you like, to appease everyone).

But then Scotland, as part of the UK, only owns about 10% of that venture.

Am I missing something? It’s late, and I’ve had a few, I’ll admit.

Long, long day.

Donald Cameron

As you say’ “not the sharpest bulb in the packet!” Their slogan isn’t even correct English! Surely it should read either, “Funded by THE British Government” or ” Funded by British Government ……propaganda, stupidity, avarice, etc., etc.,” Pick your own favourite noun. I’m sure you see what I mean.

geeo

Big signs at the border.

“Welcome to england, built on Stolen Scottish resources”

“Destroyed by pending independence”

george

– apologies i’m having trouble posting.

– nationalisation. my instinct is that brown/msm are using the word to scare the shit out of the oil markets. that’s the life-blood of the planet, and that’s then a lot of global political pressure on the oil companies.

– the oil companies’ people get to decide which fields are viable at any given moment.

– no need for any nationalisation. use a public-private partnership (or whatever the bloody things are called these days) with the existing owner of the field. can be any mix of assets and liabilities, doesn’t matter.

– once the partnership is there, that means westminster have partial control of the field, and it’s then up to the *partnership* whether that field produces oil or not.

– as was pointed out there *could* be all sorts of sweetheart deals going on behind the scenes, but not just here in scotland or the uk. suddenly you’ve got global politics and global deals to worry about.

– whether it makes money for the partnership is almost irrelevant. the uk is much bigger than scotland. in bad times the ruk’d take a hit but in good times they’d make money *and* westminster would have holyrood by the short and curlies.

– if you doubt they’d do it, go and ask any anyone in iraq.

george

karmanaut i think we’re saying exactly the same thing in different ways 🙂

Ken500

Distrusted and despised the world over for death and destruction. The Westminster crooks.

Danny Alexander the guy who destroyed the Scottish Oil sector and cost Scotland £16Billion.

EphemeralDeception
donald anderson

Great stuff. I need to be taught how to post graphics on here??? Anyone?

Ken500

The UK Gov has had control of the Scottish Oil fields. That’s the problem. They get away with murder. BP the worst corporate in economic history. Westminster secrecy and lies.

Where’s the Chilcot verdict, being buried by unelected civil servants. Blair and Brown should be in jail. Along with the rest of them.

Ken500

Gordon Brown stinks.

Alex Waugh

Having a think about this.
It appears that this will be a condition of any future infrastructure contracts. So, how many of them are there every year – a handful? And how many of them will be finished before the GE – erm, none. This is the WM spivs having a rattle at the Scots cage. It is an insult but it would be very infrequent and if reports are correct (but that’s another matter) we won’t even see them, since their architects will be long gone by the time the foreman is meant to come round with the screwdriver and plaque. So, it’s actually a non-story about something that’s not going to happen. Did you not wonder why the Heil was running it? Let them rattle, we know who the idiots are.

alexicon

Donald, to post links on here just highlight the URL web address of your graphics, the www. part, (when you have it on display on your computer) then right click your mouse or laptop pad then select ‘copy’
when you want to post it here, make sure your cursor is active inside the comments box (double click) then simply right click again and select ‘paste’ It should show up.

Good luck.

CameronB Brodie

Further to my previous post, some light reading. 😉

link to nybooks.com

link to middleeastmonitor.com

CameronB Brodie

donald anderson
Copying and pasting the web address of the relevant page, should do the trick. Or am I missing something? (puzzled smiley 🙂 )

CameronB Brodie

alexicon
Now you’re just showing me up. 😉

Effijy

Gordon Brown Gray Train’s idea is that we share with the multi £Billion pound oil companies, i.e. tax payers will subsidise
them for a wee while until they make the same levels of enormous profits as before.

In return these companies may give a few £Million to Gordon’s
own “Charity” so that he can increase the £10,000 per week he takes out as “Expenses”?

Scots pay more per head than any other country in the UK.
Every project that you see in Scotland has been paid in full by Scots, and the same will apply to our money being spent in England on their train links etc.

Regarding Dipity Dug’s latest Clanger, she might have been at school in 20006 when a Red Tory/Labour Government signed of Glasgow’s Squinty Bridge. One of the support hangers snapped on the new bridge. The blame was faulty Chinese alloys?

Yes Kaz, your own group of gangsters who closed our steel plants
and avoid our printing presses have been leading the way in importing our basic materials from China.

Did Fud Smurphy ever get a metal plate put in his head?
Could be another faulty batch from Asia? lol

[…] Because this is an actual thing that's happening. Send in your own favourites, readers.  […]

JLT

You just know that this is going to end badly for the UK Government. Every sign that says ‘Funded by the UK Government’ will trashed or overwritten with some sort of ‘truth’.

I’ve heard some folk say that the idea will split Scots right down the middle, and thus leave us with a divided nation (divide and conquer …the British way …surprise, surprise). Well, the only folk that may get upset about it will be the Orangemen …and there’s really not a lot they can do about it. After all …are they going to man every sign, flag, post when one of these daft signs go up?

…No, neither do I…

JLT

Now …this guy is the main man! Mr Jose Mujica of Uruguay.

link to archive.today

Ken500

So no full fiscal autonomy. Just a stinking VOW. Westminster secrecy and lies

Elected to protect NHS/Education. ConDems have cut both. £3Billion a year from Education, since 2011. £3Billion. Accumulative. £3Billion + £3Billion + £3Billion + £3Billion = now £12Billion less. Pro rata affect Scotland -£1+Billion.

NHS has been cut £2Billion a year since 2011. Accumulating affect £2Billion + £2Billion + £2Billion + £2Billion = £8Billion. Pro rata affect on Scottish funding. Total £2Billion. Not increased with inflation+ 2%.

The Condems are committed to cut from education NHS/Education £5Billion a year with no increase for inflation. By 2020 the NHS will be £30Billion short.

The Condems have cut taxes from 2010 £600Billion raised to 2012 £490Billion raised. It looks like tax revenues have fallen again to £466Billion (D. Alexander) – not enough for public service provision.

James Dow voice from the diaspora

Well what an opportunity, so simple, so right, two letters substitution simples. UC. Get your self adhesive labels printed and get to work Scotland overlaying the ND. Best wishes from Australia.
Scotland.
FUCKED BY THE UK GOVERNMENT
Now it looks appropriate.

Bugger (the Panda)

SIR Mark Thatcher

says it all.

I am away to lie down

CameronB Brodie

Oops.

link to spinwatch.org

link to leftfootforward.org

Lurch probably shares Churchill’s enthusiasm for the alleged ‘civilizing’ effect of Zionism. I don’t suppose growing up in a former British colony, under apartheid, has coloured his outlook? ;(

seanair

The Daily Record is falsely using the slogan “Scotland’s Champion”. Will it feel obliged to stick the Union flag alongside this slogan?
I’m not happy that Lidl is joining the DR in some promotion, probably because a German-owned company is not knowledgable about Scottish politics and the falling sales of the DR. Well it’s Aldi for me now!

donald anderson

seanair commented on Asking for it.
in response to RevStu:

“Because this is an actual thing that’s happening.
The Daily Record is falsely using the slogan “Scotland’s Champion”. Will it feel obliged to stick the Union flag alongside this slogan?
I’m not happy that Lidl is joining the DR in some promotion, probably because a German-owned company is not knowledgable about Scottish politics and the falling sales of the DR. Well it’s Aldi for me now!”

Surpringly, Lidls and Aldis do not stock the “the National”. They used to be more sympathetic to Scotland than the English Supermercats.

James Dow A voice from the diaspora

Reply Almannybunnet I tried to post earlier with the suggestion that the en in funded should be replaced by ck.
What a gift opportunity by the Imperial masters.
Scotland get your self adhesive stickers printed,and get busy.
Best wishes from Australia.

James Dow A voice from the diaspora

Reply Almannybunnet My mistake, that should have been replace the nd in funded with ck. sorry for confusion

CameronB Brodie

Further to Robert Ford’s essay above.

“The Salvador Option For Syria”
US-NATO Sponsored Death Squads Integrate “Opposition Forces”

link to informationclearinghouse.info

Barbara McKenzie

@ CameronB Brodie

Thanks for this link
Barbara

Grouse Beater

“For too long constitutional debate has been Scottish centric.”

Written by, Mr David if it’s not true write as if it is, Torrance in a column claiming the British state is NOT broken.

Which does he work for, MI6 or MI5?

Richardinho

I was under the impression that the Uk government’s money is actually taxpayers (some of whom live in Scotland)? It’s pretty arrogant of them to suggest that this money comes from them.

Macart

O/T

The National launches its website.

http://www.thenational.scot

Comments restricted to specific articles and FB users at the moment.

Bugger (the Panda)

@
Faltdubh says:
1 March, 2015 at 11:10 pm

“Do you think Alexander kens he’s fúcked in May and decided this as one last act of Unionism?

Naw,

He is just a stupid wee naieve boy who fell from Space into Politics and then into the Treasury.

He reads Biggles books, the Famous Five, Noddy and Dan Dare and still thinks they are real.

He is so subsumed within the Westminster bubble that he hates his upbringing and just thinks of himself as a repatriated, landed Englishman. Just listen to his accent when he in not back in Scotland trying to defend his Scottish estate, sorry seat.

He is, to sum it up, a wee red, white and blue hedgehog blinded and frozen in the middle of the A9 the headlamps of a convoy of Scottish lorries bear down on him.

Splat, and his living remains will be air lifted down to London to be exhibited as a curiosity exhibit, a captured Jock in London Zoo.

john king

R-type Grunt says @10.24
“The real shame is that it’s being perpetrated by our own.”

OUR own?
____________________________________________________________
Colin Macartney says @ 10.25
“all of the above have been reported ( eventually ) yet hundreds of thousands of people don’t seem to care or understand.”

That information isnt put out for the l.I.V’s benefit its for ours so they can get a kick out of hearing the squealing

link to youtube.com

___________________________________________________________
Christian Wright says @ 11.24
first of all great post and I agree wholeheartedly
“They are spraying their territory”

What?
Like this you mean?
link to youtube.com
____________________________________________________________

Big Jock says @ 11.40
“I suspect this comes down to one thing. They are genuinely expecting another referendum in a couple of years. I suspect its to do with the Euro referendum creating the break up of the union. The campaign for the unionists has started already.”

I take it they’re campaigning for a YES vote this time? 🙂
______________________________________________________________
BrianW says @ 11.40
“Just a wee reminder from our Better Together uKok partners at P.Q eh. Maybe we should have it plastered on the side of their shiny glass box on the Clyde.”

They would just clean anything off we put on their windows and get us arrested but whats to stop us projecting a message ala Alison Jackson on the building from the other side of the river from a car or van say?
the driver could just bugger off before the cops got there
link to youtube.com
Eh, how fast can a pantechnicon go?
__________________________________________________________
Edulis says @12.03am
“Wasn’t Thatcher’s speech in Perth also the one which had the line, “We English are a very generous people”.

I cant see even her being as crass to have made THAT speech in Perth, she wouldn’t have got out alive!

The actual quote was
“We English, who are a marvelous people, are really very generous to Scotland.” and it was made to The Times.
_____________________________________________________________

I would like to hear an opinion from anyone who has legal knowledge about the new proposal to fund the BBC out of a local tax which means everyone tv watcher or not is going to pay for the BBC, can that be legal?

Surely it would breach peoples human rights to be forced to pay for what is essentially entertainment,

any legal eagles out there?

G4jeepers

How about Ian Murray in his “suit”?

Cath

The f***ing UK government need to remember they are funded by US. And they cost us a bloody fortune. They are also employed by us, are all the overpaid wasters pumping out propaganda at places like the Scotland Office. Time to sack the whole damn, useless lot of them.

Sinky

G4jeepers

Ian Murray’s suit is a jacket.

link to wingsoverscotland.com

and given his expenses claims it should be stamped Funded by the UK Government but don’t put such a sticker on his shabby door of his Constituency Office.

In In 2013 / 14 his expenses came to £189,015.53 on top of his salary.

On 13 January, along with 27 of his Scottish Labour colleagues, my local MP Ian Murray voted with the UK Tory government for another £75, 0000 million worth of austerity cuts which will slash billions from the Scottish government’s health and education budget.

Just a few days later, he and other Labour MPs refused to vote against the renewal of Trident which could have saved the £75 billion without further cuts and tax rises. He also abstained on a vote for a UK wide moratorium on Fracking in the House of Commons on 26 January.

Nicola Sturgeon is to be congratulated for waging war on Tax avoiders as both Labour and Tories are compromised by accepting huge donations from Tax Exiles which Westminster is reluctant to tackle.

It is surprising to learn that many members of the shadow cabinet, as well as Edinburgh South MP Ian Murray, are currently using the services of a seconded member of staff from the accountancy giant PwC, each at an estimated cost of £45,000.

This at the very least suggests a conflict of interest, particularly as Margaret Hodge, the chairman of the Commons Public Accounts Committee, said it was ‘inappropriate’ to accept unpaid help from the firm accused by MPs of promoting tax avoidance schemes on an ‘industrial scale’.

Les Wilson

I wonder if they will put signs up on the M25 (only one example)” Built with Scottish Oil!”
Because it was, as with very many infrastructure project in London. Starting from the first gush of oil, while Scotland got nothing. Fraudsters.

Look at HS2 and where we will be charged a cost against Scottish taxes, while having no benefit! Similar the Crossrail project, London drains improvements etc etc etc.

I guess there will be sod all about the cost to Scottish tax payers. This is a big blunder by our imperialist masters, a boomerang idiocy.

A hardly thought through propaganda car crash. Inventive Scots have very very many opportunities to show what actually has happened under Westminster rule in Scotland, and boy, are we gonna have fun spotlighting them.
We have 300 years of mismanagement to display, courtesy of our masters. Hell mend them.

john king

What Jim said @ 8.04! 🙂

CameronB Brodie

Sorry for continuing the OT. This is my last post on the subject. 😉

link to joshualandis.com

Ken500

The National is selling 50k a day plus 11K subscribers 50p. takes in 30k a day. Six days £180k + advertising revenues – less expenses. Enough to cover a few wealthy, middle class male ‘journalists’.

Scotsman sells 25k a day – more expensive
P & J sell 60k a day. Courier 50k

Google (or whatever) National Scotland – an article by the Guardian. Gives these figures.

CameronB Brodie

Barbara McKenzie
Err…which one? 🙂

CameronB

Barbara McKenzie

@CameronB Brodie

Yes, sorry!

“The Salvador Option For Syria”
US-NATO Sponsored Death Squads Integrate “Opposition Forces”

I had been wondering how the half dozen protesters in Damascus during the Arab Spring suddenly developed into a fully fledged rebellion, complete with chemical weapons.

There is an article on Bella Caledonia by someone working in Kurdistan, Iraq, who claims that one motivation for jihadists is ‘the West’s support for Bashar al-Assad in Syria’.(!!!) Wonder who has been feeding them that line …
(link to bellacaledonia.org.uk)

Les Wilson

This is a call for reminders of all of Scottish history, and for every grievance Scots have ever had over how we have always been milked for the benefit of the Union/Westminster.

How do we put one of their labels on the Highland Clearances, just one example!
It is a gift for the Independence movement, let us use it well. This is our own propaganda machine!!

Ken500

The Thatcher speech was to the Church General Assembly. ‘we the English people are generous to you Scots’. While she was taking everything that moved, including the people, out of Scotland. ‘This must be kept secret written in her own hand on the policy document’. A born liar, corrupt beyond belief.

Nana Smith

Oh geez that first picture of two vile individuals is not something I wanted to see first thing in the morning.

How friendly they were, perhaps we should judge broon on those he protected.

On twitter I see people calling for him to be assessed by a psychiatrist. He should be locked for being a danger to the Scottish people.

galamcennalath

Scottish money has flown South, never to return, for a very long time. Estimates of 100s billions are often claimed.

Perhaps we should produce a list of infrastructure projects carried out in England over the last thirty years which might reasonable be claimed to have been built with OUR money.

A good counter to the ‘subsidy junkie’ nonsense might be to reply “who paid for the Dartford Bridge (or whatever)? We Scots did!”

john king

Les Wilson says@ 08.36
“I wonder if they will put signs up on the M25 (only one example)” Built with Scottish Oil!”

And lets make sure they place them every few yards just like they put signs on cycle lanes where you will find signs every few yards (in case they forget I suppose) driving along the road above Chapel Level in Kirkcaldy past MGT towards B&Q there must be a hundred or more signs reminding people its a cycle lane, (not even half a mile long)when you consider the ludicrous amount of money it costs to put jus one sign up the cost for the signs on that road must amount to 100s of thousands of pounds
link to transportretort.wordpress.com

And then they use the road anyway!

Macart

Apologies, don’t have the archive link thingie, but its an oh dang moment for UKIPs David Coburn.

link to huffingtonpost.co.uk

HandandShrimp

Danny’s idea is a gift to satire.

I can’t even begin to imagine what went through his mind when he suggested it. I actually cringe slightly when I see things like “A gift from the American people” or “Giftaid from the UK” stamped on sacks of food. Perhaps it is the remnant Calvinist in me that thinks one’s giving should be in humility and without fanfare. What he proposes just makes me curl up inside.

RJF

Will you all be tearing down and vandalising “funded by the EU” signs on public works, also subsidiser bythe Scottish taxpayer? Or do they get a free pass?

Bob Mack

I had to laugh this morning at the American Chief of Military Staff,who considered that if “BRITISH” forces are further cut, then the logical thing for them to do is fight withinin American Divisions.Looks like our service personnel will be adding the Stars and Stripes to the butchers apron.
Land of Hope and Old Glory ?

alexicon

Ken500, Don’t know if you’ve noticed the lack of advertising on the National.
Early days yet and hopefully that revenue stream will pick up.

HandandShrimp

RJF

Just a wee bit Kipperish there I think.

Geordie Winkle

I rarely agree with English politicians and here I am agreeing with Maggie. The UK government funds nothing, the Scottish government funds nothing it is we, the people, who fund everything with the help of expensively borrowed money.

De Valera

I received my first SNP leaflet at the weekend, but in some ways they needn’t have bothered. This latest stunt and of course this article are two more reasons I’ll be voting for Richard Arkless on May the 7th.

Rigmac7

*passes RJF a nice wee bowl of cereal

Derick fae Yell

“Paul says:1 March, 2015 at 10:55 pm
What infrastructure in Scotland is actually paid for by the UK government? ”

Trident

RJF

Just asking if you’re going to be consistent about this. The EU has trousered billions in Scottish oil and whiskey and then condescends to give some of it back pretending it’s their own, too. Why will you yell and shriek against one but not the other, evenif they’re both robbing Scots?

heedtracker

They’re really just feeding the whole sponger Scots thing in England, which is the UK. How much NOT Scots oil’s been sucked away by our chums in the south?

So another day in teamGB and if only this socialist firebrand could be a teamGB PM or Chancellor

link to archive.today

Jump in anywhere, if you’re wondering where to start. Rancid says vote SLab Scottish types, listen to Crash Gordon and you don’t exist anyway Scotland land. This raging Graun attack says Scots oil, £1.5 trillion, is worthless and they even know how much barrel of NOT Scots oil will be 2016/17 too.

Bet Norway wish they were also owned by England:D

CameronB Brodie

Sorry for going back on what I said, but I want to correct my post @ 02.24, replying to RascalRachael.

“Though the USA has been keen on helping Wahabism spread around the world since the 1950’s”, would have been better as…

Though the USA has been keen on helping ‘Islamic nationalism’ spread around the world since the 1950’s

Sorry.

Ken500

Some people can’t get the National because there are not enough copies being printed to go around. The circulation will increase as the Paper becomes more established. No perfect but better than others that are available. Many people have got out of the habit of buying a paper, for obvious reasons.

G4jeepers

@Sinky,

That’s the fella 😀

@John King,

Kirkaldy?

Gogsie B?

Cycolpath?

Sounds about right…

Oil get ma coat.

Capella

I think what they have in mind is UK plc.
Perhaps they plan to float it on the Stock Exchange once the assets are suitably labelled and priced? A hedge fund could buy up UK plc and the top pols and civil servants can be proper Directors on the Board.
Think of the bonuses!

We can all just shut up and fight each other over the crumbs.

john king

Macart @ 09.13
here ye go

link to archive.today

Christian Schmidt

Finsbury Park station, just after Christmas

desimond

Has the Millenium Dome, aka The subsidized 02 Arena got a mention yet…that would suit a great big stamp on it!

Bugger (the Panda)

@ Macart

The Huffington Post link, to UKIP’s Coburn’s car crash in Bristol last week, is ferking hilarious.

“He also made fun of SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon for her “mad scary eyes” and compared Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson to porridge.”

Coburn is so far down that tunnel to Alice’s Wonderland that he is just about in Australian jurisdiction.

Long may he continue to brainfart, because we need the humourous freak show that he is, and he serves as a reminder of what UKIP really are like.

john king

Derick fae Yell says
“What infrastructure in Scotland is actually paid for by the UK government? ”

Eh!
link to en.wikipedia.org
why dont we make sure they stick paid for by the uk government over those?

Robert Kerr

O/T

The National is being advertised on Smooth Radio!

Our day shall come

Bugger (the Panda)

a propos RJF

More than a feint whiff of rotting fish there?

Fred

Unionjackerie on canvas, this does it for me folks,

link to bbc.co.uk

Bugger (the Panda)

@ RJF

” The EU has trousered billions in Scottish oil and whiskey “

Their pockets must be leaking all over the place.

You are so obviously not Scottish either.

Risible

Macart

@ John King

Cheers John.

@ BtP

It’s a peach isn’t it? 🙂

Couldn’t help himself.

Brian Sherry

As Brown engages in his last hurrah,he must observe (like us)that like him,Murphy,Curran and the rest,have a total dependence on westminster.It has left them bereft of any positivity,any great courage or moral compass,they are vacuous.They are also like him,yesterday’s men/women,the people of Scotland are not all nationalists but 100% reject you and your like and will vote SNP,fool me once,shame on you….grrr

Ken500

The US/UK were keen to misappropriate other countries resources and assets in the Middle East. The first attempt was in Iran 1950. Westminster Churchill had control ie ownership of total Iranian oil production. Instead of buying the Oil resources. US/UK decided to destabilise the regime, chaos and death and discredit the PM and put him in jail. Use the Shah in pursuit of their intentions. CIA/M15. Secrecy. Now released in historical US gov documentation. Documented in ‘Planet Oil’ (2) BBC 2.

These ‘secret’ campaigns have continued the same illegal pattern throughout the Middle East and the rest of the world, as US/UK misappropriate other countries assets and resources. Trade and give Aid. Do not illegally invade. It costs more.

The same pattern happened in the Referendum Campaign.

Valerie

Remember to lift your eyes from time to time.

RT reporting that Catalonia are preparing to set up their own tax system, looking at setting up worldwide offices as embassies.

Love it.

Almannysbunnet

Funded by
UK Government
The first three capital letters really stand out. Once you notice you just can’t take your eyes off them 🙂

Bugger (the Panda)

I bet you didn’t know that after the abolition of slavery, the plantation owners received compensation for their loss from the UK Government which a fair few used to build their estates in the Shires of England.

They should also carry a UK sticker, I think.

link to wired.co.uk

scotspine

I have just registered my dissatisfaction with Lidl concerning their association with the Daily Record and why.

I informed Lidl that many switched to them during the Referendum because they appeared neutral, whilst other Supermarkets took the No side.

I informed Lidl that I would no longer shop with them if they engage with a newspaper that has been found to mislead the public in this Country.

I would urge others to register their concern too.

john king

Fred says
“Unionjackerie on canvas, this does it for me folks”

Jesus that’s is the saddest picture I have ever seen,
my God even the horse looks defeated.

Nana Smith

People in Renfrewshire awoke to good news yesterday as it was announced that the children’s ward at the RAH would remain open.

Months of hard campaigning by a local, community-led campaign, including numerous public meetings and rallies, had pressurised the local health board to withdraw the threat of closure to the children’s ward at the RAH. A well-deserved victory for the local community.

link to scotsnewsonline.info

Black Douglas

Fred says:
2 March, 2015 at 10:05 am

“Unionjackerie on canvas, this does it for me folks,”

Ethnic cleansing 18th & 19th century style.

Surprised they didn’t try concentration camps!

oh look they did link to archive.today

Only took the empire another hundred years to dream that one up.

1984 anyone?

Bugger (the Panda)

re my above post on slavery, the payment awarded to the former slave owners is estimated to have been the equivalent of 45% of the then GDP of the UK.

link to ucl.ac.uk

This site give you a database access to the compensation claims and payment records of the time.

The father of Gladstone PM is there making his filthy lucre as are a wheen of Camerons, but not suggested link to oor Davy.

But I wonder.

All paid for by the British Government.

Ken500

HS2 £70Billion, (will make journeys times through Scotland even longer) White elephant subsided without necessary customer base. HS3 £25Billion, Crossrail 2 £20Billion, Thames tidal?, Tideway sewers £4Billion, London Garden Bridge £Billions, 3rd London runway £Billions. Anywhere but Heathrow.

APT on Scottish Air travel makes journeys even more expensive, with overnight stays extra.

Broadband Scotland £200 Million, interest added and put on Scottish Account. The rail line in Scotland has not even been electrified, making journey’s longer.

Increased Oil tax in 2011 Budget 10% (£2Billion) to 80% has cost Scotland £16Billion in lost revenues.

Nana Smith

and the bbc klaxons shriek broon’s ‘nationalise the oilfields’ Articles will be broadcast until scots have been thoroughly brainwashed.

Broon’s self preservation society in full on attack mode.

Ken500

*HS3 £7Billion, Crossrail £20Billion.

john king

Paid for by UK government
link to royalyorkers.ca
FORT GEORGE

frogesque

O/T

Daily (pick your own word beginning with R) on it usual Vile Cybernats tirade again.

This time regarding comments on Nick Robinson’s cancer.

Now, I don’t and never will confuse personal misfortune with professional misconduct bias and it IS inappropriate to make comments about personal issues outside of politics. I am pleased however that no Wingers appear to have stooped to that level.

That said, is does show that a few idiots (in this case, some seem to have been from Welsh Nats as well) how easy it is for MSM to tar everyone with the same brush.

It helps no one, and in exactly the same way that comments about Leaonard Nimoy, Alex Salsomd and the ‘c’ word (not reported by your favorite toilet paper) do not help the Unionist cause.

Please stick to the policies and the professional misconduct, leave private lives out of it where it has no bearing on the former

Nana Smith

@Bugger (the Panda)

Cameron’s wife’s family received payments.

@Valerie here’s the link…

link to rt.com

Macart

@ frogesque

Couldn’t agree more.

chris kilby

Better Together, eh? This truly is The Best of Both Worlds…

Les Wilson

Just a few that deserve the label

1, Radioactive hot spots around Scotland.
2. Corroding nuclear subs near major population centers.
3, Depopulation of the Highlands
4, The millions of tons of ww2 ammunition’s dumped in the sea between Scotland and Ireland.
5, Nuclear subs 20 miles from our major population city.
6, Lorries loaded with nuclear materials regularly passing through Glasgow.
7,Giving away our fishing rights to all and sundry.
8, Scottish exports sent to English ports,then classed as English exports.
9,6000sq miles of Scottish waters stolen by Westminster including the oil rigs there, of course. The proceeds go to English coffers.
10,Scottish history education none existent.

Shit there are so many issues, that is just 10 for now.

RJF

I notice that you didn’t actually answer my question, BTP. I suppose when nationalists are called out on their hypocrisy they just desperately try to deflect.

handclapping

Somebody ought to tell the Gruniad that they wheeled Brown out 3 times for the council byelection in Kirkcaldy so Jim could show that he was a winner and they got beat. They should have romped it, they got 49.95% in the 2012 election.

Broon’s a busted flush.

chris kilby

“Union flag to be plastered across Scottish bridges and roads with message ‘Funded by UK government’ to counter independence

Provocative Treasury move to put Union Flag on all state-funded projects

Roads, flood defences and broadband hubs will all be branded with logo

Plan drawn up to hammer home the benefits of Scotland remaining in UK

Logo is also similar to one used on foreign aid funded by Britain.”

No risk of vadalism/popular uprising there. Why don’t the feckers brand US with union jacks while they’re at it? Just to remind us all who’s boss – Don’t whup me, massa…!

ronnie anderson

Did the great Gordo happen to mention the Resiliance Fund in his utterances.

orri

Are we seriously going to get FUKG’ed? Will we keep track of where the latest FUKG up is?

john king

RJF @ 9.42

Im sure your about to provide the evidence any minute now.

Capella

@ Les Wilson
Re Scottish History (Mr Peffers will be along in a minute):
I just watched some of Neil Oliver’s 2008 BBC Scotland “History of Scotland”. Totally anglocentric skim thorough hunners of years leaving out important chunks. Seems our history was mostly a run-up to the Union. Chaotic barbarism blissfully replaced by peace, order and prosperity.

Bonus Feature – “How the Celts Saved Britain” – a provocative two part documentary presented by Dan Snow.

I’ll keep you posted!

HandandShrimp

RJF

Anything that the EU gets is given to them by Westminster. If Holyrood does approach the EU and secure additional funding then that is a win as things stand. I can’t recall the last time I saw a funded by the EU thing, I’m not even sure we get those any more.

What Westminster is proposing is just plain cheek. Transport is devolved as is Housing and other key infrastructure projects. The notion of putting a “funded by the UK” sticker on the say the new Forth crossing or the new Borders Railway is quite simply offensive. Those are Holyrood projects from beginning to end. If Westminster is proposing to build lots of extra stuff over and above the Holyrood works projects, out the goodness of their hearts, that is another matter. Somehow though I doubt it.

bookie from hell

Will Gordon be quoting this in his Scotland Oil speech tonight

The Red Paper of Scotand 1975(devolution vision)

Gordon Brown

“Scotland’s true resources are not oil,but the collective energies and potential of our people”

link to theguardian.com

Rigmac7

There, there RJF

Have some more cereal and play with your butchers apron placemat, there’s a good chap

Lollysmum

RJF
Tell me where Scots get a choice in what is paid to EU? As far as I’m aware EU membership fees are paid directly by Westminster as a cumulative amount for the whole of the UK.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

ronnie anderson

O/T BBC reporting on Tidal Lagoons in Swansea Bay & Cardiff to make electricity ( 5 miles long barriers to hold water back ) & here,s me thinking that generating electricity from wave energy was so expencive,HOC /HOLs or its only the case that Scottish Hydro / Wave energy is expencive ( note no walls need building in harnessing the power of the waves ).

More & more backhanders will see these projects pushed through legislation.

Capella

And if you’re wondering how Neil Oliver – an archaeologist and not a historian – gets to front a History of Scotland x 10 part series, and indeed the subsequent shambles on “Bannockburn” for its 700th anniversary, then the clue lies in his Wikipedia entry:

In May 2014, Oliver stated in an interview with the Herald, that he was “proud of Britain” and noted his dislike of the upcoming Scottish independence referendum saying that he found “this kind of internecine squabbling puts my teeth on edge. I would rather that it would just go away – or that it had never happened.” He went on to say that he “liked the status quo.” (herald 17th May 2014).

Funded by the UK plc

chossy

I suppose all the new nuclear power plants that England will be getting built will have funded by the chinese on them yeah?

boris

Forces are not protected by the minimum wage act introduced by the Labour government in 1997. The commitment was dropped after pressure from then Defence Secretary George Robertson, (now Lord George) who claimed that it would put the military and government into a “financial and legal straitjacket”. His intervention resulted in first level forces eg. private soldiers, being paid the equivalent of under £2 for each hour of duty under fire. And politicians are ever alert to remind the public that they value our forces highly. Twaddle.

In recent times implementation of a recent defence review completed by Con/Dem politicians and civil servants inflicted major damage to our forces at the time many were deployed on active service in Afganistan. On returning home significant numbers were issued with a, “notice of redundancy” and summarily discharged within a few weeks with little prospect of gaining employment in a declining job market. So much for loyalty and camaraderie. More:

link to caltonjock.com

ronnie anderson

Hud the Presses. Cameron promises to Build 200,000 Rabbit Hutches by 2020.

Labour will Build 200,000 Rabbit Hutches by 2020

O who to vote for.

Do they all carry the Onion Flag seal of approval of the british Taxpayer,questions will be asked in HOC / HOL when the obliga-tory-labour palms are Greased.

Muchos greasy arses.

heedtracker

Another another day in teamGB. So happy and glorious. There cant be many people around getting such as slagging by teamGB, sorry us cybernats.

link to archive.today

If these hacks alone are stooping as low as to use some poor old BBC shill’s illness, somethings really bugging them.

Les Wilson

Capella says:

Thanks Capella, please do that. my blood is boiling with this.

HandandShrimp

I certainly don’t recall seeing anyone here saying anything unpleasant about Robinson. Indeed there were several Get Wells…thought we were supposed to be the spawn of Satan site?

Bugger (the Panda)

RJF

cc JK, Lollymum, Rigmac 7, HandandShrimp,

I do not normally engage with the afflicted on this site but, it is a slow part of day and it is pissing down outside so,

I think you don’t understand the difference between rhetoric and a real formed question. However, trying to work out what you are trying to articulate about the EU, Scotland does not pay money to the EU. We pay money to Westminster and we do. So, your point is pointless, just fulmination to no real objective. Anger without logic is self destructive.

You also did not respond to my implied question about not being Scottish. Can you guess why I posed it?

Anyway, time to get on with the rest of my life, of which you form no part.

Bye