Warning Forever
Posted on
November 10, 2022 by
Rev. Stuart Campbell
Stop us if you think you’ve heard this one before, readers.
Because you won’t be wrong.
We’re already looking forward to Series 6.
“…stop me stop me oh stop me…”
The best exposure ever of the biggest betrayer in Scottish history.
Rinse and repeat.
OT
QT tonight a voice from the past, who should have stayed in the past.
link to dailymail.co.uk
IndyRef2 will be along as soon as the Planet is saved.
The poor wummin is ran aff her feet.
She’s just back from Egypt telling them how to hold back the tide.
Then straight to Blackpool, where life is just one big rollercoaster.
You lot have no idea the work our First Minister puts in,,,all in the name of,,,
“DEFLECTION”.
“Look, I’m sitting with the PM… I’m so important, aren’t I?”
I haven’t seen her so happy looking in quite some time.
My guess is they’re there to tell her they’re going to dismantle the Barnett Formula, and if they can put her on a few front pages, she’ll go along with it…
For King and Country.
Impeachment.
End this.
All of these are based on the idea that 2012’s Edinburgh Agreement is what made the 2014 referendum possible and all of them are absolutely and categorically wrong. What made the 2014 referendum possible was the law which gives peoples the legal right to freely choose their sovereignty and international status with no interference – and that is all.
Alex Salmond’s extremely gracious offer to allow the UK to put on a show of diplomatic collaboration was a completely unnecessary step that no law, precedent or convention required and still doesn’t. The only person who has ever blocked, obstructed or denied the people of Scotland their right to vote is the one who was given the democratic mandate to make the second referendum happen, Nicola Sturgeon. No one else has ever had the power to do that.
It’s always the same when you go to Blackpool, you bump into someone you can’t stand the sight of.
She’s not exactly a beacon of competence is she?
With every public service in Scotland in ruins,,, undecided voters are going to presume that this is how an independent Scotland will be run, and vote NO in any independence referendum.
Knowing Sturgeon, you would swear this was all deliberate.
If I know Nicola, Scotland wouldn’t even leave her lips.
Mark Drakeford wants independence for Scotland more than Nicola Sturgeon does.
So she/he/it WARNS cameron , may and bojo but she TELLS truss and sunak not to do it, in Glasgow colloquially that is termed as being a SHITE BAG
Look at the happy smile on that woman’s face. So chuffed to be in the limelight as usual, with a seat at the big boys’ table. Meanwhile, local foodbank use in my area is shooting through the roof. Sturgeon is a total fucking disgrace, and she could not disgust me any more than she already does.
Superb journalism. Eviscerates Sturgeon.
She is a lying charlatan. Who thoroughly deserves all that is coming her way.
Hopefully she is gone before Christmas.
Brings into sharp focus how for nearly a decade, yes a decade because eight years is getting on for that, Surgeon has been crying one thing and doing the exact opposite.
This woman is a betrayer, a political fifth columnist, whose mission is to destroy independence.
She’s also done every thing to wreck the idependence – yes – auob movement. Has tried to emasculate Alba, and of which SNP 1 and 2 killed the chance of a independence super majority of MSPs, preferring instead a minority SNP and returned Labour and Tory MSPs.
Sturgeon is foul toxic poison. And the Rev’s article today just reminds us of that. Voting for a SNP run by Sturgeon and her clique guarantees the end for an independent Scotland.
Baby Boxes – Check
Hate Crime Bill – Check
Gender Recognition Action – Check (pencilled in)
Jail all Rapists – Coming Soon
…
So what’s left on the Todo list of Progressive Virtues that Nicola has to complete in order to get that new job before she can turn her attention to that inde… what’s it called, thing.
The sad part is that in her desire to implement her “feminist to the fingertips” agenda she’s laying waste to the one job she was tasked to perform.
By the time her successor takes over the SNP will be thoroughly emasculated (metaphorically speaking) and filled with political eunuchs.
Hubris and bloody-mindedness. The perfect recipe for disaster.
SCOTTISH DEPENDENCE : Rikki Sunak tells Nikki Stoogeon she’s doing an excellent job in her role as Worst Minister and her service to the Union will not go unrewarded .
Clearly overcome with gratitude , Ms Stoogeon , mumbled a barely audible ” fanks Guvnor , much ‘bliged ” before removing the smile on her face – reflective of the satisfaction she feels being amongst people of the same superior pedigree as herself – and replacing it with the permanent scowl she wears when dealing with – boooooring – Scottish Affairzzzzzz…..
It’s believed * Now * is not the * Time * . And never will be
During the 2016-2021 period, when any genuinely pro Indy party would have been using its golden position to deliver independence – United movement, pro Indy former FM on great form, raring to go, about to take over the Scotsman, pro Indy QC in Westminster, blogs like Wings being top 5 U.K. political blogs Brexit, Johnson. Worse ever Tory gov etc – this SNP instead went all out to trash all those advantages. *Our* advantages, our assets, that we built while building them up as a party that would deliver independence and keep us in the EU.
They joined with the unionists to try and destroy and neuter Salmond, Wings, Cherry etc. This isn’t just an incompetent party: it actively acted against independence at the very best time for it and in a massive way. They did what the unionists never could alone. And far, far too many supposed independence supporters not only fell for it but cheered it on and continually keep on kicking the wrong people, even now.
Now, post 2021, they’re not even pretending anymore. They’re taking the remaining gullible idiots for what they are with the 2023 referendum and plebiscite lie. If by any chance they hold an indyref next year it’ll be to throw it or to ensure a U.K. driven horrific new form of devolution (which would really just change the constitution to kill off independence) is delivered.
I’d love to say we need rid of Sturgeon and her entire leadership clique but it is too late now. Five years of hounding out and neutering all the best pro Indy folk and replacing them with useless or worse place people is too long. It needed done before May 2021. I have no idea what we do now, but there is a massive danger in having these people in power now. Every year that passes they do more damage to the Indy cause.
@ Astonished says:11 November, 2022 at 5:35 am
“Hopefully she is gone before Christmas.”
Get real.
Xmas 2026.
On the subject of getting real. Note the reference above to Indy support at 52%.
Far too close for a savvy and serious Indy-minded FM to call for a referendum. I can’t be the only reader who recalls how Rev Stu has charted the flat lining of Indy support across the years since 2014.
Why all the convoluted explanations when the simplest one is so in our faces?
If NS survives (and who is stepping up to replace her?), she will call a referendum when she is confident Scots will vote Yes.
To follow any other plan would be madness. A second vote for No can’t be allowed to happen.
” If NS survives (and who is stepping up to replace her?), she will call a referendum when she is confident Scots will vote Yes.”
Whilst doing everything possible to almost guarantee Scots will vote NO .
I’m going to assume you’re being ironic with that comment , JM .
If you actually mean it , why are you bothering to comment on here ? Would WGD’s Nicophile Trans-Independence site not be a better fit ?
“On the subject of getting real. Note the reference above to Indy support at 52%. Far too close for a savvy and serious Indy-minded FM to call for a referendum”
You think an independence campaign would lower it? The last independence campaign started with 28% indy support, and got it up to ~52% by a couple of weeks before the referendum, before it dropped back to 45% after the seriously dishonest and probably illegal Vow campaign. Even at the 45% mark, that’s still a healthy >50% increase on 28%.
Given all that has happened since then, especially brexit and its all its abusive consequences, a decent Scottish independence campaign would be practically unstoppable. Its primary problem isn’t support, it’s getting it started in spite of the SNP’s leadership dragging their iceberg-enclosed feet!
STOP! I’ve heard it all before.
Sigh, politicians will do anything for five minutes of publicity – anything to make them look good. “Politics is showbiz for ugly people” – never a truer word spoken. Give em their due – a few of them are pretty good actors (most are terrible lol).
Like some others, however, I am concerned that a secret deal is being hatched here. Sunack is up to something. I hope Her Majesty doesn’t sell us down the river for some personal gain (whatever form that may take).
It’s only flatlined because Sturgeon has made it very clear that a vote for her bullshit isn’t a vote for independence.
Like most sensible ppl the answer to that is simple..
Great! Wake me up when it is! Until the, as you were.
The contemporary SNP has shied away from making the raw case for Scotland dissolving the marriage with England. Illegal and undemocratic by the standards of our time, a gain for England and the few Scots involved in the deal and those who «made it» during the imperial days. Shoddy, sordid, roguish, corrupt; Scotland the quintessential speculative bargain basement property transaction.
The SNP’s platform is utilitarian/economic, concerned only with «bawbees in the sporan» just like the guys who engineered that marriage.
Pathetic bunch.
Xaracen says:
11 November, 2022 at 9:20 am
Given all that has happened since then, especially brexit and its all its abusive consequences, a decent Scottish independence campaign would be practically unstoppable.
Problem there is, in 2015 and then add in Brexit, we HAD an unstoppable YES Campaign, Brexit actually took us over the line and a Constitutional crisis the UK could not properly survive. Independence and inevitable International recognition were right there in the palm of our hands, until Sturgeon the Betrayer and Constitutionally illiterate imbecile, took hold of the reins and took it upon herself to capitulate and sell out Scotland’s rights and sovereignty.
She SHOULD have been booted out and damned to Hell right then, but all the SNP troughers, perverts and WGD type wet blanket apologists wouldn’t hear of it, and instead turned their fire and vitriol on the very people they should have listened to, those who were sounding the alarm bells about Sturgeon eight long and painful years ago. Just think of all the tortuous crap we’d have avoided by nipping this in the bud.
I’d support virtually anything for Independence, but hand on heart, if Sturgeon is anywhere involved in running the next push for Independence, through whatever channel that might be, then that push will feel like it’s deeply, deeply compromised from the outset. Sturgeon is simply too massive a liability to be trusted.
We NEED her impeachment, and if it was down to me, her criminal prosecution for what she tried to do to Alex Salmond. She’s a liar and a fraud. The Legal profession worked that out early doors and they effectively impeached her legal career. She’s not fit to be a divorce lawyer, yet she’s nominally in charge of Scotland’s Constitutional divorce from England, and royally screwing it up for Scotland.
Impeachment!
Impeachment!
Impeachment!
@Breeks (9.50) –
Hear hear yet again.
The photo of her occupying a disabled seat in the airport seems to be the final straw for many. Her Egyptian sortie was a disaster but she carries on regardless and allowing herself to be photographed at the same table as unflushable turd Gove is the cherry on top. She – and her lackeys -must know the ‘optics’ are appalling but they keep finding fresh ways to hack off even more folk who might otherwise be happy to just ignore her.
Impeachment? Yes, yes and yes again.
But how?
Are the minutes of these meetings recorded for prosperity?
We’d probably find she said fk all but asked how thier family are & shite about the weather.
Like all office managers do when the boss arrives.
She’s an administration, as the Tories have told us, she’s no clout, only the secretary of state for Scotland does & they deal with him direct on matters relating to *The UK Territories*.
Same with Brexshit, Devo was predicted on EU membership & that’s now gone..oops!
So this endless pantomime will gowan,gowan,gowan until Scotland ditches Holyrood & it’s reserved handcuffs & reconvenes the real Scottish parliament.
After watching :
SCOTLAND’S SO CALLED PARLIAMENT applaud Canada’s speaker at FM questions (rather than haul him over the coals for Ontario’s valentines day hatefest),
Swinney lay into Ross for playing Humza Youssaff, who was in the room and the minister responsible for the devolved issue in question (rather than playing the ball) only to himself lay into Starmer, who was not in the room, over a non devolved immigration issue (rather than respond to the devolved issue raised with something along the lines of if they’re so concerned about being understaffed why are they going on strike)
Judge Rouleau whitewash (and possibly undo) a great days work, from some excellent lawyers in the trucker inquiry, with what appeared to be pre arranged questions in support of more despair and soul sucking
And keeping one eye out for official confirmation that fjb midterm losses have defied history and smashed through on the upside to obliterate his record breakng performance from 2019
This was a welcome reminder of how good Liz Truss was and an excellent parody on the value of democracy pre gaslight(ing).
Thank you.
How long are the indy minded folk of Scotland going to keep on falling for this bollocks, surely when nothing materialises at the next GE, enough indy minded folk will catch on and vote for the Alba party, I’d take great joy in seeing Blackford and Wishart and all the other gutless and spineless troughing SNP MPs kicked out of their beloved HoC and replaced with Alba MPs.
A lip service is all her and the cabal are providing to the Indy movement, whilst trying to divide said movement simultaneously.
Classic divide and conquer tactics.
Cath said at 7.29am – “This isn’t just an incompetent party: it actively acted against independence at the very best time for it and in a massive way. They did what the unionists never could alone. And far, far too many supposed independence supporters not only fell for it but cheered it on and continually keep on kicking the wrong people, even now.”
Wholeheartedly agree.
John Main @ 8.07am – I’ll be polite and suggest you read the above. And secondly, can I ask what you are going to do if we don’t get a referendum in 2023 ?
I think you are all being terribly unkind to oor Nikla… the wee scone.
She was supposed to have been given that great reward by now… that fancy, smancy high powered, job at the UN on the international stage.
All she had to do was spike the Yes movement, until Brexit was delivered, get Alex out of the way by unlawful means, then derail anything resembling competence within Scot Gov, push through the GR madness to ensure a lasting ‘loony toons’ label for all future Yes campaigners, oh and sell of Scotland’s assets for bargain basement prices…
I mean she’s been such a good little operative, surely they wouldn’t fail to uphold their side of the bargain would they? Surely their word is their bond. Surely.
And yet there she is, the wrong side of 50, looking more haggart by the day, hawking her crate of iron bru half way round the world, only to be made to sell it outside on the streets, with not even a peddlars license to sooth her pride.
True what they say, when ye sup wi the deil, best hae a lang spoon right enough.
@ Robert Hughes says:11 November, 2022 at 8:26 am
” If NS survives (and who is stepping up to replace her?), she will call a referendum when she is confident Scots will vote Yes.”
Whilst doing everything possible to almost guarantee Scots will vote NO .
I’m going to assume you’re being ironic with that comment , JM .
If you actually mean it , why are you bothering to comment on here ? Would WGD’s Nicophile Trans-Independence site not be a better fit ?
Not necessarily being ironic.
I just can’t believe that both of these statements are true:
1) In Scotland, a convincing majority of Scots want and will vote for Independence.
2) In Scotland, there are politicians and leaders willing and able to accept the democratic mandate of a convincing majority of Scots and lead Scotland to Independence.
The vast majority on here are convinced that 1) is True and 2) is False. That leads to the eternal dialogues on here, and ever more convoluted explanations in justification of these beliefs.
I wonder if 1) is False and 2) is True. It is uncommon to find any political movement that remains essentially leaderless once a majority of the people are in favour. That just is not how politics works.
But why argue about it? The truth or otherwise of 1) can be assessed by looking at the polls. How stands support for Indy today? Up, down, flat-lined, what? What is the trend? If it’s on the up, extrapolate the graph to when a convincing majority for Indy will exist.
It’s not complicated!
Ian Brotherhood says:
11 November, 2022 at 10:02 am
@Breeks (9.50) –
Impeachment? Yes, yes and yes again.
But how?
Well, setting aside the rights and wrongs of it, and sidestepping ‘foreign’ influences, in 1689 there was a body of opinion in Scotland which wanted rid of James VII, who formed a Convention of the Estates and voted to oust the King and remove him from the throne.
As I understand it, SALVO are trying to convene a new Convention of the Estates to further Independence, and circumvent a waste of space Holyrood, which of course is the A game primary objective, but I wonder whether there should be a supplementary drive to depose Sturgeon and / or severely limit Holyrood’s capacity to screw up a determined Constitutional Initiative.
We need clear understanding whether Holyrood stands or falls as “ours” or “theirs”, so Holyrood needs drawn off the fence on the Claim of Right. Tackling Sturgeons Constitutional ineptitude and abject failure / betrayal would be an expeditious way to bring the matter to a head.
@ Astonished says:11 November, 2022 at 11:03 am
What anybody can reasonably do in 2023 if no referendum is held is ask the question:
Does a clear majority exist in Scotland for independence?
If the answer is Yes, then desert the SNP en masse and vote for true pro-Indy parties (Alba), making damn sure that these are not carpet-bagged by the existing troughers.
If the answer is No, then sorry to have to break this to you, but no referendum should be held.
TBH, we don’t need to wait to ask the question. We can ask it now:
Does a clear majority exist in Scotland for independence?
Republic of Scotland 10.09
We don’t need to wait. They’ve already stated they’re gearing up to save Englandshire from the nasty tories in the next election.
Nuff said. No ref & no Plebiscite. The donkey is dead in the ditch. Time indy minded folks moved on & left the *NuSNP, Perverts & Unionist party* to die completely. It can’t be revived. Even with a new leader the whole party is toxic & full of eejits that no sane minded person would hand the reins over to negotiate our exit.
The adults in the room need to jump & jump now if they’ve any kind of fkn backbone. SNP has flatlined.
John Main
That’s the continual loop Unionists play.
We obviously can’t determine that until there a fecking referendum eh?
@Breeks (11.05) –
Cheers for response.
I get that SALVO has a firm handle on the constitutional case and is ‘daring’ all current SNP MSPs and MPs to support the Edinburgh declaration.
But we know what Sturgeon’s like – she’ll just ignore it.
What she can’t ignore is the growing resistance to the GRR Bill. Ash Regan has become a figurehead of sorts but there are strong principled women (and men) behind her who know that Sturgeon has their cards marked. They also know that the popular support ‘out there’ is with them. They have nothing to lose now.
Sturgeon has been on the run since that debate, pausing only to lie to the Public Audit committee before jetting off to Egypt to make an arse of herself. But she can’t keep running. And if the current judicial hearing is anything to go by (we should hear more on that later today) then professionals across civil service and legal bodies associated with Scotgov business will be working out how to put distance between themselves and her before it all goes properly pear-shaped.
It really does feel like the end is near. (But then again, I’m sure I remember writing something similar weeks, nay months ago.)
🙂
What % of public opinion did ‘Vote Leave’ start at?
That’s the idiocy of relying on opinion polls before actually asking in real time with the only opinion that matters = the one cast in the ballot box.
How many No voters regretted thier *early* Postal votes?
It can all change on the day..
Gillian Martin was another who stated Sturgeon was *out of touch* regards public opinion on GR.
I’m hoping this spells the end too but I still think it’s beyond saving even when Sturgeon receives her jotters. If they’ve no backbone now they’ll never have one.
Ottomanboi.
The scottish parliament is not in the treaty of the union.
The UK parliament 2022 site says so. It was cancelled in 1707.
NS history of lies bounces back to bite her in the bahookie. And STU sews the patchwork of constant lies together for all in the indy for Scotland to see.
History has a way of coming back at you from the past.and uncovers many a lie.
The SNP is a party of home rule, not independence.
Some folk in here are delusional if they think the SNP are just going to melt awa’ like snaw aff a dyke when exposed to the bright sunlight of Salvo or the righteous anger of Scots voters when they suddenly realise the implications of the TRA agenda.
There’s as much chance of anything dramatic happening next year – whether indyref2, the SNP undergoing some palace coup and replacing Sturgeon and her cabal, or Salvo delivering a cunning plan for indy – as there is of Nicola being hit by a meteorite.
Even if the SNP leadership is changed, the jobsworths , troughers and candy floss haired twitler youth aren’t just going to disapparate. They’ll be hanging on for dear life to preserve their access to power, sinecures and funds. Power won’t be surrendered or shared, it’ll be prised from their cold dead grip.
Folk need to stop fixating on Nicola. If she fell under a bus tomorrow, nothing much would change. We still need to demonstrate a clear majority, and it’s only going to happen by conventional means, not cunning plans.
Ay, the deja vu is hurtin ma heid. It’s take to the street time again, but all around Bute House and Holyrood. Females and all indy supporters unite. We are fighting the same fight from different directions. Even if you don’t support independence but want to get rid of the GRA reform, you will not be able to do so without independence supporters’ help, and, independence supporters, you won’t achieve independence without the female vote. The SNP is playing both ends, and has being do so since 2014/2015.
Sorry, typo, last line: “… has been doing so since 2014/2015… “.
She will do as she is told by the brits as always.
THE CHALLENGE TO RESEARCHES I PURPOSED STILL STANDS.
If the Scottish government extinguished itself in 1707 by ( Agreeing ) to the Treaty of Union…( see UK parliament site, source of information)
1: Is the cancelled Scottish parliament in the treaty of union from 1707 to today?
2: How many Scottish members of a Extinguished Scottish parliament sit in the UK parliament as representatives of Scotland?
WHEN the English and Scottish governments in 1706 and 1707 respectively ( agreed ) not to ask the Scots to vote to join the treaty of the union,
1: Were the NATION of SCOTS, left outside the agreed terms of union between of the parliament of Scotland and the parliament of England by that decision?….(See UK parliament site information source)
2: Why did the English parliament and the Scottish parliament think that Scots maybe entitled to have a vote separate, on joining the treaty of union?
3: Why did the English parliament and the Scottish parliament consider the Scots to be a separate group entity from Scotlands parliament?
If the Scottish parliament was extinguished in 1707, there is no treaty of union between parliaments surviving the original agreement between the two parliaments….only the English parliament entered the new British parliament.
There can be no ( Acting )members of a extinguished Scottish parliament sitting in Westminster parliament since 1707 to present day…
Simply said.
The agreement between the two parliaments for entering into the new British parliament did not complete its course,
The Scottish parliament ceased to exist in 1707.
The agreed treaty between the two parliaments therefore died with the extinguishing of the Scottish Parliament.
The English parliament continued it session until 1708 into the new British parliament.
The 1707 extinguished Scottish Parliament for the past three hundred years is no longer liable for the treaty of the union.
It can not be in the treaty of union if it has ceased to exist.
The SNP will fu8k your soul and rape your mind
The Westminster English parliament has a treaty with fresh air,
Wullie,
The treaty of union ceased to exist when the Scottish parliament extinguished itself by agreeing to the treaty of union in 1707.
The treaty of union only has one parliament of those two parliaments in it since 1707.
The English parliament.
James
Because throughout the years that followed the 1707 malarky, other Acts were incorporated & a *brand new state* was born with Scots losing thier shit the Union wasn’t more uniony & do something about this separate laws malarky. & Yes, we still have those tossers in parliament, lording it up in the Lords.
Like I said before, by the time one goes down the rabbit holes of all the ammended, updated, Acts that followed cementing us to that clusterfeck we’re all into losing the will to live.
Until the independence supporting electorate wise up to the reality that Sturgeon and the SNP are never going to present them with the democratic opportunity to vote for independence, we are well and truly fooked.
Based on the current polls, that could realistically take another 5-10 years. In the meantime, the British establishment will set out to shackle Scotland to this “Union” in perpetuity. All it will take is a lack of political will and a yes movement beaten into submission after years of prevarication. We may be too stupid for independence after all. I truly hope that I am proved very wrong.
*We’re all into losing the will to live..
Should’ve made clear, Joe bloggs on the street fogs over.
Of course, during indyref2, constitutional & legal experts will be vital on the 1707 stuff. It’s the war unionists will fight it on. Look at the state they made of themselves over Chucky signing his authority.
Geri @11.57am.
Indeed Geri, the SNP MPs are just too comfy in their positions at Westminster for them to end it, they’ve even given themselves ludicrous shadow titles, as if somehow, they’d be in government at Westminster, maybe that’s the dream they desire. Every one of them has put their own self and party interests before that of the people who elected them, every single one of them is in reality a Judas.
As for the SNP MSPs what can I say a useless bunch of troughers all spineless and gutless and of low character, they’ve kept their heads down and mouths shut, okay one resigned and a few voted against or abstained on the GRR big deal, where have they been since Sturgeon took power and promised to get us out of this vile union, nowhere that’s where, they’ve been heads down in the taxpayers trough as Sturgeon squandered mandate after mandate, and they did nothing when Sturgeon let Brexit pass her by.
The SNP MSPs are a bunch of charlatans, what kind of people who are elected by the public on the premise of helping their FM deliver independence stands idly by and say and do nothing as that FM goes about the business of destroying the indy movement and lying to the public for years that she’ll deliver it.
In my opinion there’s not one SNP, MSP or MP that’s worth saving, the good ones have already jumped ship those with a conscience and a bit of moral fibre saw the writing on the wall, it’s just the dregs that are left to clap like seals every time the betrayer speaks at FMQs.
Arthur
All it would take is an Fascist regime & were already there. Sunak just has some dusting to do on voter ID cards & expanding Tory boundaries & we’re all set for zero tolerance on detractors & perpetual Tory rule.
I wonder how many waved thier wee plastic butcher’s apron today with sheer hypocrisy?
Republic
100%
I’d have hoped better from Cherry but demotion & public bullying hasn’t shifted her so I doubt anything will now.
& Jeez at those ludicrous titles they’ve awarded themselves in a parliament they’re not even supposed to be in & they’ve hee-haw chance of ever being official opposition. They’re beyond taking the piss at our expense.
Calton Hill vigil: a group of people campaigning for a Scottish Parliament [oh dear…] held a vigil for several years, 24 hours a day, on Calton Hill.
Are any of those people, or their ilk, around today? In which case what about a similar vigil outside Bute House until real, effective, action is taken to restore independence?
Geri.
Breeks.
You make some sound points in you’re comments re Snp and NS,
Also about laws.
However these points about the Snp and laws should be considered not under or in the treaty of the union, what legal bite do any of these laws have on Scotland since 1707?
If there is only one parliament in the treaty of the union, the English parliament, then everything else as Britain simply falls by the way in Scotland,
British Laws, British statues, British legislation, British maritime laws, this includes the Devolved government, the Crown in the devolved Scotland.
and anything else since 1707 Including the Snp in a english legislated devolved government, no need for impeachment as Breeks suggests.
On the other hand if Westminster parliament claim that the 1707 Scottish parliament is not extinguished…..Where is it? Why is it not in Scotland? Can Scotland still use it as a authority over the devolved government and the Snp.
The Scottish parliament is either not extinguished in 1707 or it still exists.
The UK parliament cannot escape this elephant in the room. It simply cannot have both scenario’s
And if it was extinguished AS THEY state,
There is no Scottish parliament In the UK parliament, There are NO Scottish members of Parliament, There is no Treaty with the 1707 Scottish parliament.
So do we still have a original Scottish parliament from 1707?
Without the legal status of the original Scottish parliament, since 1707, there is no treaty of union.
Not to worry as I’m sure next month’s Tory PM will disagree with the boatload of former PMs
and chase Nicola to take a referendum or 2 if you need it.
Can you imagine her What will I do now look?
Another way of looking at this is that the English parliament entered the British parliament in 1706 as the the English parliament, while it was still in continuous session until 1708 officially.
However the Scottish parliament had broke its session and closed its doors, before the entry date that opened the new British Parliament.
The Scottish parliament ended its entry by extinguishing itself, into the British parliament and did not completed the treaty of the union as a Scottish parliament.
According to Winnie Ewing, the Scots parliament was adjourned but never closed.
At the opening of Holyrood, or in the temp building they were in before, she said, the Scots parliament was reconvened.
No one contradicted her.
Andy Ellis 1.13pm
Re Salvo.
It’s no magic bullet And it’s no secret what we are doing. Salvo are following a path already trodden by our kin in an earlier time.By setting up the Liberation Movement we hope to have around 100000 members next year. That would we are advised ve sufficient for us to have standing to have the ICJ answer a question .That question. Was asked in parliament last week by Neale Hanvey MP . Is Scotland in a political union governed by a treaty and the terms and conditions of it or Is Scotland a Colony? Either answer is sufficient to either unilaterally walk away from the ToU or ask to be scheduled for decolonisation In either case Westminster cannot interfere. Tou see the name Salvo around but there are also Liberation so called as it’s the only non government body who can get standing . Theres the Scottish National Council who are making the necessary diplomatic commitment contacts with countries and International bodies who can approach the ICJ on our behalf originally . I would expect hy the time it gets that far Salvo will have no need to exist anymore. We are over 6% of the membership with liberation that we need and it doesnt require anything from either Westminster or Holyrood just now. Ate st some point in the future there will have to be a divvy up but not til after we have gone.
I’m ever grateful to you Stuart for injecting humour into your posts otherwise they’d mostly have me greeting.
Oh, and a very warm welcome back to Twitter.
Hate to say it again but if ANY Independence Party prepares some financial projections for scrutiny, revealing that an Independent Scotland could stand on it’s own two feet, then the majority of Scots would vote to go it alone and, more importantly protest vigorously for the right to have the vote.
A score or so on here, playing the victim card, does not really cut it. Neither does airy fairy schemes around 300 year old guff that nobody, other than the usual folks, are interested in. I keep saying it but CHANGE WILL ONLY COME VIA THE BALLOT BOX!.
The SNP have produced various ‘papers’ which tell us basically nothing. Am uncertain if ALBA have actually produced anything? Doing so would be their greatest opportunity to attract people away from Sturgeon and the SNP but only if the figures stacked up to scrutiny!
I appreciate that the whole economic/financial scene is uncertain just now but once projections are produced it is relatively easy to amend at a future date in view of circumstances pertaining at that time.
No sane person is going to vote for Independence not knowing what this will cost to set up and how it affects their pocket thereafter. Trust me-it will all be fine is the SNP mantra. Does anyone really believe that other than those within the flock? Realistically, the costs are going to be far higher than any one is prepared to admit.
Meanwhile Sturgeon and the troughers plod happily along, increasing their bank balance and pension pots month on month.
Honesty is required from the Politicians, especially the SNP. The chance of this happening are about the same as me winning the Euro millions draw tonight, especially as I won’t be buying a ticket.
It is remarkably easy to moan on here, sometimes umpteen times per day, about the injustices and how unfair it all is. It has become a hobby to some.
I genuinely believe that the ‘men can be women’ and ‘women can be men’ is the beginning of Sturgeon’s demise. Who will fill the void when the SNP implodes?
A lot of people are concerned about their financial position just now. Some will realise that MONEY, or the lack of it, has some importance in life!
Dave Llewellyn says:
That question. Was asked in parliament last week by Neale Hanvey MP . Is Scotland in a political union governed by a treaty and the terms and conditions of it or Is Scotland a Colony?
That is a very interesting question. What sort of response did Neale Hanvey get
“The SNP have produced various ‘papers’ which tell us basically nothing.”
Alex Salmond’s 2014 White Paper, the Wee Blue book, the Wee Black book and even Business for Scotland had some good literature.
The UK government has conducted a series of polls on Scottish independence, and they’ve point blank refused to release the result, it doesn’t take a genius to know why the result won’t be released.
No, I’m quietly confident that a majority of Scots know that independence will benefit them and that is why successive UK PM’s have refused to issue an S30 and deny Scots democracy, add in and it’s of the utmost importance, we have an FM who also doesn’t want independence, we can bypass Westminster, but it’s a bit more difficult (for now at least) to circumvent that treacherous bastard at Bute House.
Chas, Alba have been doing a tour with the wee Alba book.
There have been several advertised for different cities, towns.
You can also download it
Dave @4.25pm.
Dave.
It’s a question that MUST be answered (force their hand) before we can move forward, you’d have thought that the SNP MPs would’ve constantly pushed for an answer on this. Mind you the SNP and the then LA did everything in their powers to hinder Martin Keatings on finding out his answer to the question of, do we need an S30.
Just depressing, isn’t it. Here we have a Scottish Parliament, with a pro indy majority, with mandate, after mandate, after mandate for independence, yet NOTHING gets done. Westminster is despised not only here in Scotland, but around the world, with a thoroughly racist, incompetent, criminal bunch of charlatans in Downing Street, yet Still Nicola does NOTHING for independence.
After so many deliberately missed chances, and intentional refusals to pursue independence when the door is wide open, we can only conclude Nicola Sturgeon is a fraud. Holding the union together, by acting as a conduit or ‘lightning rod’ to channel Scottish desite for independence into nothing.
She and her party were elected to get us independence. They have not done so. They have had chance after chance after chance, yet still sit on their hands, re-arranging the deckchairs, as
England‘little britin’ drags Scotland down the fascist plughole.The SNP need booted out of office. They have followed the same path taken by the ‘scottishy’ british Labour branch office. Taking pro indy votes for granted, whilst achieving nothing. Taking us all for mugs, while they rake in the dosh from their ministerial jobs and MSP/MP salaries. What a gravy train. What an utter lying bunch of shysters.
@ RoS
I’m surprised so many folk that are all about the money are content to stay on the sinking ship that is the UK, while complaining about the decor and furnishings on the lifeboat.
I regularly post stats about Scotland’s incredibly impressive resources to population ratio. I noticed earlier thein the week there was an attempt to make the 25% of potential EU windpower being in Scotland’s geographic area.
Although one wonders how accurate any figure could be when the potential generation figure for just one ScotWind auction block (Ossian) may have increased by over 1/3rd in just a few months.
Alba have addressed this on the following article which also touches on energy economics.
link to albaparty.org
But here’s a clip from back in the day of one of the yoons that was so chuffed thinking they’d recently debunked the 25% figure. Just another of the cretins trying to undermine the potential of Scotland.
And I’m fairly sure that’s Kevin Hague (he of many graphs) sitting next to him, he was all for Scotland voting No in 2014 because the company he was involved with at the time (Endura) needed to stay in the EU single market to maintain its trade.
link to twitter.com
World Economic Forum: Organizations:
United Kingdom Government: Headquarters: United Kingdom:
link to weforum.org
World Economic Forum: People:
Nicola Sturgeon: Office of the First Minister of Scotland:
link to weforum.org
Soz, busy making tea and posting
“I noticed earlier in the week there was an attempt to debunk the 25% of potential EU windpower being in Scotland’s geographic area.</I"
Liz 4:22pm
I wonder why they said that because they weren’t reconvening the Scottish parliament. They were opening a WM administration.
Is Scotland in a political union governed by a treaty and the terms and conditions of it or Is Scotland a Colony?
Answer from UK Prime Minister:
What people in Scotland want to see is their two governments working together.
Does he think the people of Scotland want to see ‘their two governments’ working together to keep Scotland as a colony or what?
Liz/RoS
As far as I can see-Wee blue book issued 2014. Wee black book 2016.
Things have changed a bit since then!
Dan LOL at that clip…
& Kevin, FFS, the man who tried to say we’d be mean not to share our Lottery win (Scotlands oil) with everyone in the UK.
Meanwhile, in the real world, there’s only one in that scenario who benefits for the constant lottery wins from its three neighbours while it produces jack shit in return.
Chas, were is brexits white paper for us all to scrutinise?
50 yrs before we see any benefits & were entering recession for at least another 20yrs so you can’t possibly by genuine.
Liz.
They maybe never said anything due to the Scottish devolved parliament being Under English legislation and Statues, so brushed the her words of as no importance.
In the Uk parliament official site 2022 the UK parliament state that by ( Agreeing ) to the treaty of the union the Scottish parliament extinguished itself.
This statement is ridiculous, and a white elephant for the UK parliament and the treaty of the union.
1: that by ( agreeing) to the union ( not actually completing the union) the Scottish parliament extinguished itself.
IF this is the case No Scottish parliament entered into the the British parliament.
2: IF no Scottish parliament entered the british parliament the union was never completed.
IT also means that the members of 1707 extinguished Scottish parliament are not representatives of the Scottish parliament then or now,
this would include the SNP that sit so comfy in Westminster.
3: If the 1707 Scottish parliament is still a legal entity in Scotland and is registered in Scotland today and represents Scots, where is it?
Do we require a devolved Scottish parliament if the 1707 Scottish parliament still exists
Two parliaments in Scotland,?
The now devolved parliament in Scotland was not around in 1707; is english legislated and therefore not signature of the treaty of union.
4: if the original 1707 parliament of Scotland is extinguished as the UK parliament state and not to be found registered as the original parliament of and in Scotland,
Whom and which parliament is the UK parliament joined to in a treaty?
Isn’t that why there’s a new one? Wee Alba Book.
@ Liz: Thank you for your explicit naming of the Wee Alba Book and the fact that it can be downloaded.
The Alba Party site has the Wee Alba Book, written in 2021 so it is bang up to date, available for downloads.
Perhaps anyone looking for a current, reliable, source of information on the arguments for independence will now be able to find it.
Automated account but Scotland currently exporting 5.5GW of power down south at the moment.
link to twitter.com
And over 108GWh over past 24hrs.
link to twitter.com
Chas,
Britain is not able to stand on its two feet, its structure is collapsing.
Why expect a new Scotland to do better than old blighty which has been on the go for hundreds of years.
The old empire has gone,
We may struggle as we organise our selves in the beginning in Scotland, but at least we have enough resources in Scotland to make a go of independence.
If we fail after three hundred years ( equal to GB time to grow a good country) or to be successful in all its nations get back to us, won’t you and then gloat.
@ Dave Llewellyn at 4.25: thanks for this clear statement of the Salvo strategy of taking a question to the UN, just as Kenyon Wright’s Constitutional Convention successfully did in 1988.
It was interesting to see Neale Hanvey giving the UK PM a foretaste of what is to come when Neale asked Sunak the same question!
Great news that the signatures on liberation.scot’s Edinburgh Proclamation have increased buy a 1000 in the last few days. Of course we will be able to add 64 MSPs and 44 MPs to that when they have read their letter from Salvo. 🙂
Geri.
You have not missed the fact that the devolved parliament is not a Scottish parliament. But English legislated And therefore is not a reconvened old Scottish parliament,
You’ve cheered me up.
@Dave Llewellyn 4.25 pm
It’s no magic bullet And it’s no secret what we are doing. Salvo are following a path already trodden by our kin in an earlier time.By setting up the Liberation Movement we hope to have around 100000 members next year. That would we are advised ve sufficient for us to have standing to have the ICJ answer a question .That question. Was asked in parliament last week by Neale Hanvey MP . Is Scotland in a political union governed by a treaty and the terms and conditions of it or Is Scotland a Colony? Either answer is sufficient to either unilaterally walk away from the ToU or ask to be scheduled for decolonisation In either case Westminster cannot interfere.
I suppose my response to that is how long will it take? “Hoping” to have 100,000 signatories is one thing, doing it is another. I remain unconvinced that Salvo, Liberation and/or SSRG are going to produce concrete results faster than just getting on with it and pushing for indyref2, or preferably plebiscitary elections.
I still don’t see how these self appointed bodies are going to demonstrate their legitimacy either to the “community of the realm” in Scotland, or to the international community if that’s whose feet we are going to throw ourselves at?
You may well be right that Salvo’s advice is correct, but who is it from? Is it a secret? Who have Salvo and Liberation been talking to? Even if they are under an obligation of confidentiality not to release individual names of authorities they have consulted with, the process itself seems remarkably opaque. If on the other hand these bodies are public, and they have back up for the claimed advice, then let’s see it.
Tou see the name Salvo around but there are also Liberation so called as it’s the only non government body who can get standing . Theres the Scottish National Council who are making the necessary diplomatic commitment contacts with countries and International bodies who can approach the ICJ on our behalf originally .
OK, that begs some more questions. Who makes up Liberation and the Scottish National Council? Who appointed them? How are they funded? When Sarah Salyers had her stair heid rammie at the Alba conference, I saw these bodies mentioned in the post rammie analysis, but answers came there none. Who have they been contacting? What have they said? It’s just not good enough to say: “Se have been assured that…..”. Show us the money!
I would expect hy the time it gets that far Salvo will have no need to exist anymore. We are over 6% of the membership with liberation that we need and it doesnt require anything from either Westminster or Holyrood just now. Ate st some point in the future there will have to be a divvy up but not til after we have gone.
6% of the membership of what? Who is the 6%? I’m happy for Salvo to exist as a ginger-group and to help put pressure on to examine potential alternative routes to indy if we draw a blank on getting indyref2 or holding plebiscitary elections.
However, like a lot of Scots – and I suspect the people, countries and governments abroad we will depend on for international recognition – I’m unconvinced there is some short cut to independence, or some clever legal wheeze that will allow us to simply walk away and declare UDI without you know….actually voting for it.
James,
As Christine Grahame said, it’s where it’s always been – with the people.
Holyrood isn’t Sovereign, we are.
We don’t need a parliament if people take to the streets & demand our Independence cause no one can stop it. WM sovereignty doesn’t apply here.
It was the only thing Annie Wells ever got right.
Neale Hanvey asked a real political question in Westminster.
Respect to him.
Even though Westminster politicians danced around Neale’s question, when they diverted to a evasive answer,you could see it made them uncomfortable.
@Robert Louis
Just depressing, isn’t it. Here we have a Scottish Parliament, with a pro indy majority, with mandate, after mandate, after mandate for independence, yet NOTHING gets done.
Yes it is deeply depressing. Holyrood may have a majority of MSPs from pro indy parties, but sadly it simply isn’t true that there are multiple mandates for independence, because that’s not what people were voting for.
We can insist that there are several mandates supporting Holyrood’s right to hold a referendum, and it’s true that polling shows >60% (which must ipso facto include some unionist voters) of Scottish electors think it should be entirely a matter for Holyrood to decide when and how often we hold referendums.
As for nothing getting done, the solution for that lies in the hands of voters. If the SNP are coming up empty, they need to punish them at the polls. It obviously hasn’t worked trying to change the SNP from within: the party is no longer fit for purpose, nor can it be rendered so.
It must either be replaced as the IPP was by Sinn Fein in Ireland a little over a century ago, or it must be made to come to terms with other pro-indy parties which have managed to deprive it of a majority. Realistically that can only be Alba, and the only practicable route to independence in the short to medium term is plebiscitary elections.
@ Dan says:11 November, 2022 at 5:06 pm
“I’m surprised so many folk that are all about the money are content to stay on the sinking ship that is the UK”
Well, that’s me, all about the money, looking for a credible reason to man the lifeboats and set sail on SS Indy Scotia.
But if that’s the best Alba can come up with, I may as well keep my feet dry.
Norway has a sovereign wealth fund? Scotland has half of Europe’s offshore wind?
Whoopy fucking do. Where’s my cut?
How about a pledge to provide every Scottish home with a fixed amount, so many KWh per year, at cost?
Or, better targeted, what about pledging to assess every Scottish home against a set benchmark, and provide free compensatory extra power to every home that is substandard for reasons of damp, poor insulation, age, weather exposure, etc?
What about cost-price energy for companies setting up in Scotland, employing Scots, making us self-sufficient in stuff that currently comes from China?
FFS. I can come up with these ideas, but Alba can’t. We have to rely on the usual “energy rich Scotland, energy poor Scots” quote, and draw the imaginary fucking dots ourselves.
Let me repeat this. Scotland is rich in energy potential and all of that potential has already been sold to others. These others won’t just be handing it to us after Indy. So, what is the plan and the strategy and the timeline to get their grasping hands off of it so that it can be divvied up between us Scots?
Show us the money.
I don’t remember newly restored independent countries asking the whole wide world thier thoughts on the subject of them becoming independent.
They just got on with it.
Scotland has goods to sell & an abundance of natural resources they may seek.
Awaiting everyone’s *permission* is a nonsense that’ll never happen.
Unless we’re causing genocide & breaking international laws reclaiming our Independence then they couldn’t give a shiny shite!
Dan says:
11 November, 2022 at 5:38 pm
“Automated account but Scotland currently exporting 5.5GW of power down south at the moment.
link to twitter.com
And over 108GWh over past 24hrs.
link to twitter.com”
Dan: can’t this be stopped? 🙂 .
But seriously, how much is it worth and who benefits? Or to express it differently, if you were to follow the money (always the best advice for all manner of economic activity, legal or otherwise), where would you find it?
Neales question will go the same way as the demands for a sec30. Filibust onto the price of fish or something.
Because they know they have no authority to stop it. It’s only Sturgeon playing the *gold standard* bullshit & SC can only stop it under the terms of Devo.
We don’t need to stick to those terms.
To the BPHB detractors and denigrators and the “its all about the money and show us the money big mouths” do you think you are being unique and so incisive with your comments, many of us who have been on here for years have CONTINUOUSLY brought up and ridiculed the lack of challenge to the spurious figures produced by WM and accepted by the snp leaders INCLUDING Alex Salmond
Both Salmond and sturgeon have accepted without challenge the egregious GERS figures produced by WM which are CONTINUOUSLY used by all unionists and WM to ridicule and denigrate Scottish independence, HOW does THAT convince no voters and undecideds that Scotland can be prosperous
Many of us have CONTINUOUSLY exposed and highlighted the total lack of ANY educational information by the snp including Alex Salmond to enable no voters or undecided voters to at least make an informed and knowledgeable decision on their choices
ALL we have ever heard from the supposed party of independence the snp including Alex Salmond is for us as individuals to go out and CONVINCE and CONVERT no voters and undecided voters that Scotland would be successful as an independent country , BUT that convincing was to have been done with NO officially produced verifiable information, no officially produced data that highlighted the continuous lies and corruption excreted by WM and the unionist parties
Whilst ALL this individual CONVINCING was going on we had and still have snp politicians including Alex Salmond failing miserably to hold the unionist and their gutter press including the REVILED CORRUPT bbc and sky to account for their LIES
Many of us have CONTINUOUSLY pointed out that it is ONLY through the work of individuals like Zarkwan and even our own Dan that people get information that highlights the plundering and ra ping of our resources
So before the show us the money men and the plebiscite proponents start to feel superior and knowledgeable just a wee heads up to let you know we’ve all been here before and discussed it numerous times, NOW desperation is to look for ANY means including the BPHB to DESTROY the union
Hi Chas.
link to assets.nationbuilder.com
Brian Doonthetoon
I have seen it. Where are the projections?
Don’t get me wrong-words are easy. I want to see NUMBERS to scrutinise, as do millions of Scots.
Nobody seems prepared to commit to figures. Why is that?
“Liz/RoS
As far as I can see-Wee blue book issued 2014. Wee black book 2016.
Things have changed a bit since then!”
What you mean Westminster has stopped robbing Scotland since then and denying it democracy.
Don’t make me laugh, its actually gotten worse with the likes of Brexit.
Twathater
I agree. It’s only by continually playing along with thier nonsense does it give it legitimacy it doesn’t possess & only reinforces the notion we need thier approval to take a pi$h.
They’ve even got the EU at it now *If it’s done with WM approval*
WTF?
Dan @5.06pm.
Thanks, Dan, for the links, the second one I watched last night.
These bastards need to keep putting down the needfulness to England of Scottish assets, such as the oils running out, wind and water technologies aren’t sufficient etc.
Scotland has MORE than enough energy to power itself and heat its people at a reasonable cost, its England that’s f*cked on the energy front and they know it, the bottom line is they just cannot afford to see Scotland exit this rancid union and every dirty trick in the book will be used to stop us.
Their number one gatekeeper is Sturgeon and her gutless and spineless SNP MSPs and MPs.
Twathater
What an incoherent, rambling post.
GERS figures are produced by the SG not Westminster. The SG admit
that estimates are used a lot in the calculations but they do not even attempt to offer any alternative.
Other than my paragraph above there is no point in even trying to debate with you on something you clearly know very little about.
However as you have been on here for years and have continually ridiculed the lack of challenge by anybody to any figures produced, perhaps you could enlighten us all by preparing your own financial projections.
I await sight of same with interest.
Geri,
I will be dancing in the streets right along side you and others once people cotton on we never completed the treaty of the union.
That we do not need permission to leave a treaty that an extinguished Scottish parliament did not complete or enter in 1707.
And that the nation of Scots are still a nation as of old, that were not invited to join the treaty of union.
Mind you, it does not mean That we have to go without a parliament in a independent Scotland, we can arrange or start our own parliament if we want to.w
link to wingsoverscotland.com
Dan @7.03pm.
Yeah, Dan even if by some unionist miracle the Gers figures (25 of the 26 figures are guesstimates) were real, they would show that being in this union has badly failed Scotland.
What unionist also fail to take into account intentionally or just by sheer ignorance is that the GERS figures wouldn’t apply to an independent Scotland. The fantasy figures only apply in this nightmare of a union
As you well know Dan as do many other indy minded folk who’ve been paying attention, the GERS figures have been debunked time after time after time.
Now the UK via Westminster’s corruption and irresponsible “spending” sinking in a sea of debt, that’s another matter.
“Let me repeat this. Scotland is rich in energy potential and all of that potential has already been sold to others. These others won’t just be handing it to us after Indy. So, what is the plan and the strategy and the timeline to get their grasping hands off of it so that it can be divvied up between us Scots?”
We (Scotland) didn’t sell it to them, a foreign countries government did, they also issued licences as well.
I’ve seen this before with Venezuela and the US/UK etc attempting to get their hands on a sell Venezuelan oil and the people of Venezuela not benefitting from their country’s own resources, just as Scots are, Maduro the president of Venezuela put an end to that, and the US and its minions attempted to overthrow him using an unelected puppet in Juan Gaudio along with multiple sanctions, they failed.
Sturgeon is of course actively selling off Scottish assets (and denying Scots their right to benefit from their own country’s assets) on the cheap the Great Scotwind giveaway for a pittance being a prime example, she’s no better than Johnson or Thatcher for that matter, the sooner she’s ousted from Bute House the better.
GERS isn’t produced by Scotgov, how can it? It’s not in charge of the full accounts.
It’s given figures provided by WM & Scotgov statisticians, who apparently work to a high level, to go forth & provide the Scottish government with Mickey mouse figures.
It’s a well known con – debunked a gazillion times as CRAP.
Where is over £30 billion retained? What for? It’s certainly not spent in Scotland.
…the sooner she’s ousted from Bute House the better
How’s that going to happen?
I mean, I’d love to see folk in the SNP suddenly grow a pair and get rid of her, but how realistic is the prospect of it actually happening before she comes up empty on the promised indyref 2023?
Don’t know about anyone else. But like the Rev 2 or 3 years ago, I am just bored with the whole thing now. I was a minute by minute obsessive about independence. Now I feel it is waste of my precious time and energy.
I have cut back on Twitter , only post once in a while. No-one seems to be doing anything that will change anything. We have loads of blogs and useless politicians. But until we have a government serious about independence, we may as well stop wasting everyday going round in circles.
I just don’t see an end to this inertia.
Sturgeon will still be there in 2026. We will not have had a referendum. That’s how hopeless our situation is.
What is the difference between a plebiscite and a referendum?
Here is one of the explanations available: –
“Often, people do not understand the difference between a referendum and a plebiscite and use the words either wrongly or as a replacement for each other.
In very simple words, a referendum is the phrasing which describes what the vote is about. On the other hand, a plebiscite is the vote itself, that is, the election for the referendum.
A major difference between the two forms of voting on a particular issue is the initiation. Referendums are termed initiatives for a reason. Whereas the initiation of a referendum may not always involve those in power, as has been the case in citizen-initiated referendums in the past, a plebiscite can only be initiated by the representative authorities. The citizens do not have the power to initiate a plebiscite. This has an important implication. Since a plebiscite cannot be initiated by the citizens of the country, they are clearly no means of empowering the common citizens. They maybe even held in an undemocratic environment and the result ignored altogether.
Referendums cannot always be used to give further decision-making power to the authorities. Plebiscites, however, are sometimes used for the sole purpose of legitimizing a particular government decision by the people who would otherwise oppose it”
I’ll be honest and say that much of my grasp of this is, erm, blurred, and see it as unnecessary in a representative democracy.
That is, if my understanding of representative democracy is correct: that citizens elect representatives to make decisions on their behalf, in accordance with pre-election pledges. We have repeatedly commanded HR to hold a referendum, not for them to ask WM for permission, or threaten to introduce plebiscite mid-term. There is no ambiguity.
The fact that they have failed to do so simply means that Scotland is NOT a democracy. And anyone who thinks that Sturgeon will hold ANY plebiscite election, or Indy ref 2, is grasping at straws.
Sturgeon has already lost the party.
All gob & no action as per her trade mark. 15 & counting defied her orders & were they sacked? Will more join them? Will there be a vote of no confidence? A leadership challenge?
..tick tock goes Sturgeons clock. There’s no time for Indyref 2023, no convention, no assemblies, no public meetings & no plans for a Plebiscite either now or in the future as that wee tiff of Tories throwing thier majority & calling an election proved, SNP immediately started squawking to anyone who’d listen they’d b preparing & save Englandshire from its self inflicted crisis. SNP to the rescue! *Yawns*
It’s all guff.
Add to all that the pissed of pampers brigade when Sturgeon walks.
Andy Ellis @ 6.10 says:
‘The only practicable route to independence in the short to medium term is plebiscitary elections’
The Rev. Stu. completely de-bunked this idea in his post entitled ‘The Never Ending Mandate’ on the 28th September – have another read of it. The SNP have publicly stated that winning a plebiscitary election only means giving them the right to ask the UK government (yet again) for a referendum.
‘There is no route to independence that does not involve the agreement of the UK Government’. Thus sayeth the SNP.
Following this ‘strategy’ is going to end up with Sturgeon back in power without having any scrutiny of her disastrous record or what she is planning to introduce with more trans issues or any other hellish legislation she wants to inflict on us.
It’s like writing a blank cheque for her to do as she likes – and it won’t be spent on independence.
I agree with your later post that the SNP MPs and MSPs are not going to do anything to get rid of her. Their living depends on them being voted back into office. For them Sturgeon is the cash cow, or the goose laying the golden eggs. No point in rocking the boat with such high earnings(?) at stake.
What to do? Only exposure at what she and those close to her did in the attempt to stitch up Alex Salmond, and the revelation that all those SNP troughers continued to support her even though they all know what had gone on and did nothing, would be likely to have an effect.
How to do it? A legal way needs to be found to get this information into the public domain. Until that is done this saga will continue to fester and remain a blot on Scotland’s ability to be regarded as a proper functioning democracy
The Rev. Stu. completely de-bunked this idea in his post entitled ‘The Never Ending Mandate’ on the 28th September – have another read of it. The SNP have publicly stated that winning a plebiscitary election only means giving them the right to ask the UK government (yet again) for a referendum.
The SNP are wrong. It’s part of them trying to assert control over the movement as a whole. That’s why the movement as a whole should resist the SNP trying to couch such elections as something they “own”, i.e. that only votes for them should count and/or that they can direct and control who stands for each seat in a plebiscitary election.
To be clear: victory in plebiscitary elections is game over. There is no requirement for a second step or a confirmatory referendum.
Alex Salmond said in the Edinburgh Wee Alba Book meeting that he felt the movement as a whole should be agreeing a slate of candidates for plebiscitary elections and that those elections should be couched as a single issue vote.
Trouble is, I don’t see Sturgeon’s SNP agreeing to that (or for that matter the Scottish Greens who have form for that kind of thing e.g. standing candidates in Holyrood constituency seats they have no hope of winning). The bar for victory in plebiscitary elections is the total of ALL votes for pro-indy parties. 50% + 1 = de facto independence. No ifs, no buts.
The UK government can certainly make things more difficult WRT blocking a referendum and/or threatening not to recognise the process. Like it or not, that will have an impact internationally. It’s far harder for them to block or impede a plebiscitary election however, which is why the movement has to pressurise SNP members and voters to force their party to co-operate with all pro-indy parties and ensure plebiscitary elections happen at Holyrood not Westminster.
They might not be ready to do that yet, but when indyref2 fails to materialise in 2023, Sturgeon will be exposed for the fake she really is.
How good was Warning Forever, though? I still play that one regularly, and wrote about it on my own site recently (with a shoutout, since I first learned about it from WoS.)
It’s a bugger to get running on a Steam Deck though.
@Andy Ellis 10:15pm
IndyRef2 will not materialise in 2023. And a plebiscite GE Election is for the birds. I commented some time ago that the bookies got fed up of losing money on political markets. There market makers have up their game. 2 to 9 the next GE is in 2024. By my reckoning 2024 is after 2023. Nicola will be hoist by her own petard. Look for whatabootery and deflectabootery.
‘which is why the movement has to pressurise SNP members and voters to force their party to co-operate with all pro-indy parties and ensure plebiscitary elections happen at Holyrood not Westminster’
How is that pressure and force going to manifest itself. Andy?
Are you now recoiling from your previous stance that marches and demo’s are ineffective? Or is there another strategy you have in mind?
@ Chas 6.56pm What an incoherent, rambling post.
It is not my fault you have comprehension difficulty
Perhaps you could enlighten us all by preparing your own financial projections.
It is not my job to produce figures, YOU are the one going on endlessly about the money , YOU maintain that people will only vote for independence when they are shown it will be financially beneficial for them , YOU profess to be an independence supporter so YOU must be convinced it will be financially beneficial for you, that being the case YOU show us the FIGURES, or are you NOT an independence supporter
Rev what would we do without you and wings.
If that comic The National was really interested in independence they would publish this.
@George 10.58 pm
Nicola will be hoist by her own petard. Look for whatabootery and deflectabootery.
She might, and she might not. The only realistic ways I can see her being removed is a palace coup within the SNP (…and there’s very little evidence of that being on the cards) or electoral defeat. The proof of the pudding will be the reaction of all those still supporting Nicola when it becomes evident she won’t deliver indyref2.
That’s already obvious to most of us of course, but she and they will still insist it’s possible. If the SC finds in their favour, they’ll have to explain how it happens in the available time given the timescales we already know about for 2014. The pressure than has to be: if you can’t deliver indyref2, why aren’t you precipitating early plebiscitary elections.
@Ebok 11.14 pm
How is that pressure and force going to manifest itself. Andy?
Are you now recoiling from your previous stance that marches and demo’s are ineffective? Or is there another strategy you have in mind?
That’s largely a matter for the SNP membership I’d say: I don’t think Sturgeon and her cabal are listening to the rest of the movement. Indeed they’re not listening to their party as their over-riding of the NEC results the other year amply demonstrated. I’ve said I don’t believe marches and demos will result in independence, not that they are totally ineffective.
FWIW I’d say the best way to change the minds of those who matter – which in this situation has to be SNP MPs, MSPs and office holders – has to be lobbying them and showing that they are losing support, and demonstrating that their support is falling in the elecorate and in polls.
Whatever Sturgeonite loyalists say in public, if they’re getting bombarded with folk at surgeries, on the street when they’re canvassing, and seeing negative impacts in bye elections and in the polls, that might encourage them to change policy.
If it doesn’t, the only plausible means is by giving them a bloody nose at the next elections which is the responsibility of voters as a whole.
Here’s one for ‘Chas’ (n Dave) and anyone else interested in Scottish Independence from a financial perspective:
‘Book Launch – Scotland the Brief 2023 (second edition)’
“Wednesday 30th November, 6.30 pm at The Haberdashery Glasgow. Tickets are £8.00. Price includes a FREE copy of Scotland the Brief 2023 and a drink on arrival.”
“The must-attend event of the year for Yes supporters”
“Scotland the Brief is the book that destroyed the myth that Scotland wouldn’t thrive and would, in fact, be significantly more prosperous as an independent nation. It also exposed the accounting tricks used by Westminster to hide Scotland’s wealth and explained why Westminster is so desperate to keep Scotland in its failing Union, even though they know it disadvantages the people of Scotland economically, socially, and culturally.”
“Selling more than 50,000 copies of its first edition, the electronic mini version of the book has also been downloaded an additional 6,200 times. Sold wholesale to local Yes groups, with some given free to undecided voters and others sold to supporters, Scotland the Brief has raised more than £35,000 for local Yes groups. 100% of the book revenue collected by Business for Scotland has been used to launch and promote our grassroots-led and hugely successful Believe in Scotland indyref2 campaign. Scotland the Brief has reignited the Yes campaign.”
“All facts and references have been updated for 2023, making it the single most important reference book for information on Scotland’s economy, its finances, the impact of Brexit and independence.”
“Gordon MacIntyre-Kemp will announce the new content in Scotland the Brief 2023 on Brexit, the cost-of-living crisis, and the impact of windfall taxation policies. For the first time, Scotland the Brief will also address the key socioeconomic policies around independence and explain how independence can deliver a fairer, greener, healthier and happier, more secure and prosperous Scotland through a Wellbeing socioeconomic approach.”
Book your place here:
link to businessforscotland.com
‘FWIW I’d say the best way to change the minds of those who matter – which in this situation has to be SNP MPs, MSPs and office holders – has to be lobbying them and showing that they are losing support, and demonstrating that their support is falling in the electorate and in polls’
Andy Ellis.
There are two downsides to that argument. The first is that lobbying as you describe is an individual approach, when the collective is much more powerful. Lobbying is more likely to be ignored.
The second is that there is no hope of this type of approach being newsworthy. A large demo or march may, and I stress may, be reported in the media.
However, if we join up some dots, there may be a better understanding of the pro-Indy psyche and show that gatherings are significantly better.
On numerous occasions I’ve asked for an explanation of where tens of thousands of former SNP members have gone. It’s clear they haven’t gone to the other pro Indy political party, ALBA.
Yet, while SNP membership has all but vanished and Alba membership has stagnated at a worryingly low level, the YES/NO stats have remained constant for quite a while. That suggests two things: first, that most, if not all, ex-members are disillusioned with SNP but remain pro-Indy. The second is that these ex-members may be wary, perhaps for differing reasons, of switching allegiances to another Indy party, perhaps perceiving it as a clone of the SNP they once joined. Once bitten, twice shy?
Nearly all SNP voters are pro Indy – there is no other reason to vote for SNP unless you are part of the tiny woke faction – so we should not pour scorn on them. They are NOT coming over to Alba, but still, they are not the enemy. There must be room to accommodate ALL who support Independence, so unless Alba come up with something spectacular in the coming weeks, a new blueprint is essential to encourage as many supporters as possible to come together and demand a referendum, and that can only be as a united non- judgmental, non-political movement marching in unison.
@Ebok 11.47 am
Hmm…I dunno if I agree with a lot of your assertions TBH. Individual lobbying can be effective, particularly if a given MSP or MP is getting a lot of it in their mailbags, surgeries and out on the doorsteps. This can be pretty effective, as we saw in the recent travails of the Tory party: a lot of Tory MPs were gauging how their constituency parties and wider electorates felt.
It’s true that large demonstrations can be a great boost, particularly as you say if they are reported and visible, but if they are relatively small they could even be counter productive. However much some folk like a good Yes march, they leave a lot of people cold, and we can hardly claim they’ve produced huge turnouts by any stretch of the imagination. If we were getting Catalan La Diada style turnouts, I’d be more convinced.
I can’t answer your question about where former SNP members have gone. I’d say most Alba members are probably ex-SNP members. I reckon a lot of the 125,000 claimed SNP members at their high tide members had never been party members before 2015: they joined thinking it would help propel us to indyref2 and hoped that brexit would break the back of the union, only to find out that the SNP had been captured by an unsavoury and unholy cabal of devolutionists, grey suited managerial neo-libs and TRA zealots.
Historically quite a few SNP supporters have NOT been dyed in the wool independence supporters: they lent their vote to the SNP based on their (then?) perceived record for competence in government – hard as that may be to believe now! – and the fact the yoon alternatives were worse. Refugees from NuLabour realised what side their bread was buttered on once Scots rumbled Blair and Brown. They saw that the SNP was now their route to power, cushy sinecures, quango positions and a seat on the gravy train.
Longer term, if Alba doesn’t replace the SNP the way Sinn Fein replaced the IPP in Ireland, we better hope the SNP membership and supporters can effect change in the SNP, or we may be waiting a real generation for independence. At the very least we need Alba to win enough support and seats to hold the balance of power, as there are plenty of people so scunnered with the SNP that they’d probably just not vote or vote against them if they were the only option.
Guardian (14/11/2022): Failure of FTX crypto exchange will have huge implications, MPs hear:
“Most of the customers of failed crypto exchange FTX were institutions but the effects of its collapse are still likely to reverberate across the sector and may affect small retail investors, MPs have been told…
Travis Kling (head of crypto hedge fund Ikigai):
“It’s hard for me to imagine the space bouncing back quickly from this ordeal,” Kling added. “Too many got burned too hard. It’s obvious now that the space has not done enough to identify and expel bad actors. We’re letting way too many sociopaths get way too powerful and then we all pay the price.”…”:
link to theguardian.com
NewYorkPost (14/11/2022): How World Economic Forum, others are hiding their past ties with FTX:
“The shocking implosion of the FTX crypto exchange has become an embarrassment for a who’s who among global elites…
Web archive sites show that the World Economic Forum …had previously listed FTX as one of its “partners,” touting the Bahamas-based firm as a “cryptocurrency exchange built by traders, for traders.”
Bankman-Fried also was a speaker at Davos last May alongside luminaries such as Google financial chief…
…WEF has since scrubbed any mention of FTX from its website in the days after the crypto exchange filed for bankruptcy…”:
link to nypost.com
Nature: Viral load dynamics of SARS-CoV-2 Delta and Omicron variants following multiple vaccine doses and previous infection:
Published: 07 November 2022:
Discussion:
“…This study indicates that overall the presumed vaccination-related immunity to SARS-CoV-2 has only a negligible long term (>70-days) effect on Ct value, a common surrogate for VL and infectiousness. The combination of vaccine waning and vaccine evasion are most likely the drivers of this finding…”:
link to nature.com
Lancet: Protection from previous natural infection compared with mRNA vaccination against SARS-CoV-2 infection and severe COVID-19 in Qatar: a retrospective cohort study:
Published: November 11 2022:
Interpretation:
“Previous natural infection was associated with lower incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection, regardless of the variant, than mRNA primary-series vaccination…”:
link to thelancet.com
NBC (12/11/2022): Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks underway:
Both Pfizer and Moderna are launching clinical trials to track health issues – if any – in the years following a diagnosis of vaccine-associated heart problems in teens and young adults:
link to nbcnews.com
AFL (2021): NO JAB, NO PLAY: AFL releases vaccination policy: All players and staff will need to be vaccinated to play under the AFL’s new COVID-19 vaccination policy:
“All players and football department staff at AFL and AFLW clubs will need to be fully vaccinated to train and play as part of the AFL’s COVID-19 policy.
After months of consultation with governments and the AFLPA, the AFL on Thursday released a three-stage schedule as part of its “responsibility to address the risk of exposure to COVID-19 of our players and football program staff”.
The policy will apply to all players…”:
link to afl.com.au
EuroWeeklyNews (14/11/2022): Heartbreak as Australian footballer Heather Anderson, 28, dies ‘suddenly and unexpectedly’:
“The Adelaide Crows say that they are ‘deeply saddened’ by the unexpected death of former AFLW star Heather Anderson…”:
link to euroweeklynews.com
Times (14/11/2022): My sister died suddenly and I can’t stop asking why:
“…the coroner was amazingly helpful. She told me that it was doubtful in the first instance that the cause of death would be found. Apparently this is not uncommon. This turned out to be the case. The original pathology report could shed no light on why she died. Yet the coroner told me that the pathologist assigned to my sister had never not found a cause of death. Toxicology reports stood a better chance of finding one.
…essentially it seems my sister died of viral pneumonia that was exacerbated by Covid-19, as microscopic elements of Covid were found. It is not a full answer but it is an answer. Of course we are left with questions; maybe they will be answered in the fullness of time…”:
link to thetimes.co.uk
National Institute of Health:
HLA Class II Molecules Influence Susceptibility vs Protection in Inflammatory Diseases by Determining the Cytokine Profile:
(Jan 15 2014):
Abstract:
“The MHC in humans encodes the most polymorphic genes, the HLA genes, which are critical for the immune system to clear infection. This can be attributed to strong selection pressure as populations moved to different parts of the world and encountered new kinds of infections, leading to new HLA class II alleles. HLA genes also have the highest relative risk for autoimmune diseases. Three haplotypes—HLA-DR2DQ6, DR4DQ8, and DR3DQ2—account for HLA association with most autoimmune diseases. We hypothesize that these haplotypes, along with their multiple subtypes, have survived bottlenecks of infectious episodes in human history because of their ability to present pathogenic peptides to activate T cells that secrete cytokines to clear infections. Unfortunately, they also present self-peptides/mimics to activate autoreactive T cells secreting proinflammatory cytokines that cause autoimmune diseases.”:
link to ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Cell: Skewed Fate and Hematopoiesis of CD34+ HSPCs in Umbilical Cord Blood Amid the COVID-19 Pandemic:
Published: November 10 2022:
Summary:
“CD34 molecules, which are essential for the maintenance of the bone marrow and blood systems…
…the fate and functionality of CD34+ HSPCs are severely affected by the host’s health status, such as infection by a pathogen, and can cause stress-induced hematopoiesis in these HSPCs in the USB, which would make unprecedented concerns on the future of HSPC-based therapies.”
Results:
“Both previous-SARS-CoV-2 infection and vaccination negatively impact CD34+HSPC frequencies and numbers in the UCB…
…the numbers of mononucleated cells (MNC) decreased in the non-vaccinated and vaccinated donor groups, even so more in combination with the vaccination and the presence of anti-N IgG more than 2-fold compared to the negative donor group…
To assess the recovery time needed for decreased CD34+ cell numbers of donors following the vaccination/infection to baseline as established by the negative donor group, the % frequencies and numbers of CD34+ cells per 1 mL of UCB against the days post-2nd vaccination were plotted. Both parameters were inversely correlated to the term following the vaccination, though there was no significance difference by the positivity for IgGs against SARS-CoV-2 S and N proteins, indicating that these impacts on CD34+ cells were largely caused by the vaccination…
The gene ontology analysis revealed major significant changes were seen in genes related to IFN-?-mediated signaling pathways, which includes HLA-class II genes, such as HLA-DQA1, HLA-DQB1, HLA-DRA, HLA-DRB1 and HLA-DRB5…”
Discussion:
“…More recently, it has also indicated that BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 vaccine significantly increases the levels of IFN-? in the vaccinated subjects more than the infected subjects…”:
link to cell.com
James Melville (14/11/2022): Twitter:
“Here’s (unmasked) New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern entering the East Asia Summit gala dinner with (unmasked) World Economic Forum President Klaus Schwab…”:
link to twitter.com
James Melville (14/11/2022): Twitter:
re. ITV:
“If you are a man or woman whose periods have stopped.”:
link to mobile.twitter.com
Journal of the American College of Cardiology: Comparative Risk of Myocarditis/Pericarditis Following Second Doses of BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 Coronavirus Vaccines:
Published November 2022:
Conclusions:
“…we observed a 2- to 3-fold higher odds among individuals who received mRNA-1273 vs BNT162b2. The rate of myocarditis following mRNA-1273 receipt is highest among younger men…”:
link to jacc.org
Cell: Comparative analysis of within-host diversity among vaccinated COVID-19 patients infected with different SARS-CoV-2 variants:
Published November 2022:
Summary:
“Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) is a rapidly evolving RNA virus that mutates within hosts and exists as viral quasispecies…
Overall, the relatively higher intra-host diversity among vaccinated individuals and the detection of immune-escape mutations, despite being rare, suggest a potential vaccine-induced immune pressure in vaccinated individuals.”
Introduction:
“The origin of SARS-CoV-2 variants remains unclear…
Multiple factors may affect within-host evolution of RNA viruses including antigenic selection, antiviral treatment, tissue specificity, spatial structure, and multiplicity of infection.
Potentially advantageous mutations that confer enhanced receptor binding affinity, increased transmissibility, and immune-escape properties might be selected and become dominant…”:
link to cell.com
NaturalNews (15/11/2022): Deep state money supply: FTX, the collapsed crypto exchange, funded the “TOGETHER Trial” to discredit ivermectin:
“Remember that infamous New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) study that declared ivermectin to be an ineffective remedy against the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19)? It turns out that the now-defunct cryptocurrency exchange FTX helped pay for it…”:
link to naturalnews.com
Owen Jones (Oct 2022): You tube: Nicola Sturgeon DESTROYS Anti-Trans Arguments:
“…Abusive men are what we should be focusing on. They are the risk to women – not trans-women…”: Video:
link to tinyurl.com
Argument:
“A disagreement, or the process of disagreeing.”
“A reason or reasons why you support or oppose an idea or suggestion, or the process of explaining these reasons.”
link to dictionary.cambridge.org
Destroy:
“To damage something so badly that it cannot be used.”
link to dictionary.cambridge.org
NBC (15/11/2022): Crypto billionaire Sam Bankman-Fried’s downfall could deprive Democrats of key donor:
“…Bankman-Fried was the second-largest Democratic donor this election cycle by a longshot, according to the most recently available campaign finance data from the Federal Election Commission, second only to philanthropist George Soros…”:
link to nbcnews.com
Guardian: (15/11/2022): Humans could face reproductive crisis as sperm count declines, study finds:
“Humans could face a reproductive crisis if action is not taken to tackle a drop in sperm count, researchers have warned after finding the rate of decline is accelerating…”:
link to theguardian.com
National Records of Scotland (10/11/2022): Avoidable deaths increase by 4%:
“More than a quarter of all deaths in Scotland in 2021 were avoidable, according to analysis by National Records of Scotland.
28% of the 63,587 deaths registered last year were considered preventable or treatable, up from 27% in 2020…”:
link to nrscotland.gov.uk
Scot Gov (2018): Public Health Priorities for Scotland:
Priority 1:
A Scotland where we live in vibrant,healthy and safe places and communities:
“In a vibrant, modern Scotland it should be possible for everyone to be as healthy as they can be. It should be the case that the social, economic and physical environments we live in help create health and wellbeing…”:
link to gov.scot
HeraldScot (28/10/2022): NHS preparing for ‘significant excess deaths’ this winter:
“Health chiefs are in talks with funeral directors to ensure cremations and burials can keep pace with demand in the event of “significant excess deaths” this winter…”:
link to heraldscotland.com
Courier (09/11/2022): Mental wellbeing worse but number of smokers down in Tayside says Scottish Health Survey:
“Mental wellbeing in adults across Scotland has declined, online gambling has doubled in a decade but smoking has reached a new low.
The annual Scottish Health Survey is out this week which gives a detailed picture of the health of the nation…”:
link to thecourier.co.uk
No but she can.
And has.
And continues to.
Human persecuting NBC devil (14/11/2022):
re. Tips for protecting your (‘vaccinated and protected’) children:
“Avoid physical interaction with unvaccinated individuals.”:
(identification badges of shame for unvaccinated biologically normal people?):
link to tinyurl.com
John Hopkins Center for Health Security (2017): The SPARS Pandemic: A Futuristic Scenario for Public Risk Communicators: 2025 – 2028:
“This is a hypothetical scenario designed to illustrate the public health risk communication challenges that could potentially emerge during a naturally occurring infectious disease outbreak requiring development and distribution of novel and/or investigational drugs, vaccines, therapeutics, or other medical countermeasures.
The infectious pathogen, medical countermeasures, characters, news media excerpts, social media posts, and government agency responses described herein are entirely fictional…”:
link to centerforhealthsecurity.org
CoinDesk (2020): Cryptocurrency CEO Donated Second-Largest Amount to Joe Biden’s Campaign:
“Sam Bankman-Fried, the CEO of cryptocurrency derivatives platform FTX, made the second-largest donation to former Vice President Joe Biden’s presidential campaign, according to details revealed in The Wall Street Journal on Oct. 28.
The Hong Kong-based CEO gifted Biden’s campaign a total of $5.2 million, behind only former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s $56 million donation…”:
link to coindesk.com
Guardian (16/11/2022): FTX’s former CEO claims crypto exchange is still solvent:
“Sam Bankman-Fried, the former chief executive of the collapsed crypto exchange FTX, has claimed the company he founded is still solvent, even as its new boss, who oversaw the final days of Enron, begins the formal bankruptcy process…
A few weeks ago, FTX was handling ~$10bn/day of volume and billions of transfers…”:
link to theguardian.com
Financial Action Task Force (FATF):
What is Money Laundering?
“The goal of a large number of criminal acts is to generate a profit for the individual or group that carries out the act. Money laundering is the processing of these criminal proceeds to disguise their illegal origin. This process is of critical importance, as it enables the criminal to enjoy these profits without jeopardising their source.
Illegal arms sales, smuggling, and the activities of organised crime, including for example drug trafficking and prostitution rings, can generate huge amounts of proceeds. Embezzlement, insider trading, bribery and computer fraud schemes can also produce large profits and create the incentive to “legitimise” the ill-gotten gains through money laundering.
When a criminal activity generates substantial profits, the individual or group involved must find a way to control the funds without attracting attention to the underlying activity or the persons involved. Criminals do this by disguising the sources, changing the form, or moving the funds to a place where they are less likely to attract attention…”:
link to fatf-gafi.org
GlasgowTimes (2021): US President Joe Biden gives gift to Nicola Sturgeon as he leaves Glasgow:
“According to her official Twitter account, the First Minister is ‘delighted’ to have received the present and was looking forward to the President returning…”:
link to glasgowtimes.co.uk
Ernie Haase and Signature Sound (2008): We Need Each Other:
“…There’s too much at stake to ignore our common ground…
Cuz if one of us is hurting – none of us have peace
And if one of us is bound – then none of us are free…
We’re not alone in this world
We need each other…”:
link to tinyurl.com
OpenVAERS: Covid Vaccine Reproductive Health Related Reports:
Through November 4, 2022:
re. miscarriages/stillbirths; menstrual/haemorrhages charts:
link to openvaers.com
DailyCaller (15/11/2022): ‘Really, Really Ugly Facts’: Citadel CEO Ken Griffin Calls Out FTX For ‘Trump Lose’ Section:
“Citadel founder and CEO Ken Griffin called the collapse of FTX a “travesty” and called out its founder, Sam Bankman-Fried, for his bizarre connections to the Democrats.
“You know, on the balance sheet at FTX there’s a line that says ‘Trump Lose,’” Griffin said during an interview at the Bloomberg New Economy Forum on Tuesday. “And Sam was the second biggest donor of the Democratic candidates.”…”:
link to dailycaller.com
GrayZone (15/11/2022): FTX partnership with (redacted) is latest chapter in shady Western aid saga:
“The (redacted) government mysteriously disappeared online records of its fundraising arrangement with the FTX crypto scam just days before the scandal erupted. The initiative claims to have raised $60 million for (redacted), but where did the money go?…”:
link to thegrayzone.com
Silent Thieves (2022): I Don’t Wanna Finish What We Haven’t Started:
“Time has past but still I remain…
Living life on hold feels so cold…
I don’t wanna finish what we haven’t started…”:
link to tinyurl.com
MaximumVolumeMusic (09/03/2022): Band of The Day: Silent Thieves:
“Right now, in a world where some world leaders should have known better, Scottish Rock band Silent Thieves burst onto the scene with their debut single ‘Don’t Be Scared To love’ with the line ‘Should have known better’ ringing out like an air siren.”:
link to maximumvolumemusic.com
MainEWire (16/11/2022): Chuck Schumer Calls for Citizenship for All Illegal Aliens:
“On Wednesday, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) called for legal amnesty for every illegal alien present in the United States, including a pathway to citizenship.
“Now more than ever, we’re short of workers,” he said. “We have a population that’s not reproducing on its own with the same level that it used to…””:
link to themainewire.com
USAToday (16/11/2022): Sperm counts drop globally: What’s impact on fertility:
“Sperm counts and concentration are down all over the world, according to a new study that updates previous research and raises questions…
In the U.S., due to availability of good data, we have the highest certainty that there is a strong and sustainable decline…”:
link to eu.usatoday.com
WallStreetJournal (15/11/2022): FTX Says Number of Creditors in Bankruptcy Could Top 1 Million:
“FTX’s bankruptcy could involve “more than one million creditors,” its lawyers said in court filings late Monday, showing the vast reach the second-largest cryptocurrency exchange had before its downfall…”:
link to wsj.com
FTX (08/03/2022): Twit:
“Incredibly excited and humbled to be working with the (redacted) Ministry of Finance, and others to support crypto donations to (redacted).”:
link to twitter.com
Benny Johnson (16/11/2022): Twitter: Biden accidentally caught again taking list of commands from his handlers like a puppy:
“YOU… will take a photo”
“YOU will sit…”
“YOU will deliver opening remarks…”:
link to twitter.com
World Economic Forum: People:
Linda P. Fried:
Dean and DeLamar Professor of Public Health, Mailman School of Public Health, Columbia University: …Global Future Council on the Future of Human Enhancement, World Economic Forum…:
link to weforum.org
LedgerInsights (2021): BlackRock funds, Temasek, Tiger invest another $420m in FTX crypto exchange at $25 billion valuation:
“…Today’s round involved 69 investors, including Singapore’s state-owned investment firm Temasek, Sequoia Capital, Tiger Global, Ribbit Capital and funds and accounts managed by BlackRock…”:
link to ledgerinsights.com
TrustNodes (02/05/2022): Tony Blair and Bill Clinton Talk Crypto:
“The former British Prime Minister Tony Blair and the former US president Bill Clinton took the stage at Crypto Bahamas this Thursday.
…moderated by FTX’s founder Sam Bankman-Fried…
Kate Perry was there as well in the afterparty, presumably to justify the exclusiveness of this conference, but there is a wrong vibe…”:
link to trustnodes.com
Glenn Greenwald (16/11/2022): Twitter:
“US funding for war in (redacted) in 9 months:
Mar: $ 13.6 billion
May: $ 40b
Nov: $ 37.7b: Biden’s new request
That $ 91.3 billion is 33% more than (redacted) total military spending for the year.
It’s double the US’s average annual expenditure for its own war in Afghanistan.”:
link to twitter.com
Yahoo (16/11/2022): Tom Brady, Stephen Curry, Shaq and Naomi Osaka among celebrities sued in class-action crypto lawsuit:
“…The class-action suit was filed against FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried and a number of celebrities who endorsed FTX, a crypto trading company.
In addition to Brady, Curry and Osaka, Shaquille O’Neal, David Ortiz, Shohei Ohtani, Trevor Lawrence and Udonis Haslem are all named as defendants. Brady’s ex-wife and supermodel Gisele Bundchen, comedian Larry David and “Shark Tank” personality Kevin O’Leary are also named in the suit, as are the Golden State Warriors, a prominent partner of FTX…”:
link to sports.yahoo.com
EpochTimes (17/11/2022): G20 Promotes WHO-Standardized Global Vaccine Passport and ‘Digital Health’ Identity Scheme:
“Leaders of the Group of 20 (G20) have issued a joint declaration promoting a global standard on proof of vaccination for international travel and calling for the establishment of “global digital health networks” that build on existing digital COVID-19 vaccine passport schemes.
“We acknowledge the importance of shared technical standards and verification methods, under the framework of the IHR (2005), to facilitate seamless international travel, interoperability, and recognizing digital solutions and non-digital solutions, including proof of vaccinations,” the G20 joint declaration reads…”:
link to theepochtimes.com
Securities Commission of The Bahamas (17/11/2022): MEDIA RELEASE:
“Securities Commission of The Bahamas Assumes Control of Assets of FTX Digital Markets Ltd…
Nassau, The Bahamas, Thursday 17 November 2022 – On 12 November 2022, the Securities Commission of The Bahamas (“the Commission”), in the exercise of its powers as regulator acting under the authority of an Order made by the Supreme Court of The Bahamas, took the action of directing the transfer of all digital assets of FTX Digital Markets Ltd. (“FDM”) to a digital wallet controlled by the Commission, for safekeeping. Urgent interim regulatory action was necessary to protect the interests of clients and creditors of FDM…”:
link to scb.gov.bs
Dr. Fauci (1999): re. Warning: Novel Vaccination/potential long-term dangers: Video:
“…If you take it and then a year goes by, and everyone’s fine. Then you say ok that’s good, let’s give it to five-hundred people, and everything’s fine. Now, let’s give it to thousands of people and then you find out that it takes twelve years for all hell to break loose, and then what have you done…”:
link to tinyurl.com
Stockholm Research Reports in Demography | no 2022:17:
Fertility declines near the end of the COVID-19 pandemic: Evidence of the 2022 birth declines in Germany and Sweden:
Abstract:
“Following the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, several countries faced short-term fertility declines in 2020 and 2021, a development which did not materialize in Scandinavian and
German-speaking countries. However, more recent birth statistics show a steep fertility decline in the aftermath of the pandemic in 2022…”:
Introduction:
“…monthly fertility data from Sweden and Germany show a strong fertility decline in early 2022, with about 10 to 15 % less births, respectively, than what was observed during the same period the previous year. This poses questions…”:
link to su.figshare.com
CoinDesk (14/03/2022): (redacted) Partners With FTX, Everstake to Launch New Crypto Donation Website:
“The (redacted) government launched a new crypto donations website on Monday, streamlining its multimillion-dollar effort to turn bitcoin into bullets, bandages and other war materiel.
“Aid for (redacted),” which has the backing of crypto exchange FTX, staking platform Everstake and (redacted) Kuna exchange, will route donated crypto to the National Bank of (redacted), Everstake’s Head of Growth Vlad Likhuta told CoinDesk. (redacted) crypto-savvy Ministry of Digital Transformation is also involved…
The website deepens an unprecedented tie-up between public and private sector forces in crypto. FTX is converting donations into fiat for deposit at the National Bank of (redacted)…”:
link to coindesk.com
Embezzlement:
“The crime of secretly taking money that is in your care or that belongs to an organization or business you work for.”
“He’s accused of tax evasion, embezzlement, and fraud.”
link to dictionary.cambridge.org
CNBC (16/09/2022): Biden White House just put out a framework on regulating crypto:
“The Biden White House has just released its first-ever framework on what crypto regulation in the U.S. should look like.
The framework outlines the ways in which the financial services industry should evolve to make borderless transactions easier…”:
link to cnbc.com
Aljajeera (2021): Pandora Papers: (redacted) leader seeks to justify offshore accounts:
“…former comedian, (redacted) was elected president in 2019 on promises to fight corruption…
But the files obtained by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ) and published on Sunday claimed that (redacted) and his partners established a network of offshore companies back in 2012.
The Pandora Papers are based on documents leaked to the ICIJ and exposed the offshore dealings of kings, presidents and prime ministers…”:
link to aljazeera.com
World Economic Forum: Organizations:
United Kingdom Government:
link to weforum.org
World Economic Forum: Organizations:
Soros Fund Management:
link to weforum.org
IDOX: Significant shareholders:
“Treasury shares:
As at 30 April 2022, the company holds 1,426,219 Ordinary Shares of 1 pence each as treasury shares.
Percentage of AIM securities not in public hands:
Canaccord Genuity Wealth Management: 19.2%
Soros Fund Management LLC: 11.57%…”
link to idoxgroup.com
FTX (08/12/2021): Twit:
“A huge thanks to Maxine Waters and Patrick McHenry, and the whole House Financial Services Committee for having us today to talk about the future of digital assets. The meeting was productive and I’m really grateful for the engagement and thoughts from policymakers.
I came in expecting some hostility and grandstanding, but instead found the discussion to be by and large productive and helpful. I’m excited to keep engaging with lawmakers and regulators to refine the regulatory landscape.”:
link to twitter.com
An excited Sam Bankman-Fried (CEO of FTX) cuddles with Maxine Waters and Patrick McHenry (2021): Photograph link:
link to thepavlovictoday.com
Hill (16/11/2022): House committee announces hearing into FTX collapse featuring Bankman-Fried:
“The House Financial Services Committee will hold a hearing next month to investigate the collapse of top crypto exchange FTX, lawmakers announced Wednesday.
Reps. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) and Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.), the top lawmakers on the committee…”:
link to thehill.com
A conflict of interest:
“A situation in which someone cannot make a fair decision because they will be affected by the result.”
“I need to declare a conflict of interest here – one of the candidates for the job is a friend of mine.”
link to dictionary.cambridge.org
FinancialTimes (15/11/2022): Sam Bankman-Fried’s fall cuts off big source of funds for US Democrats:
“FTX entrepreneur has emerged as the second-biggest donor to liberal groups after George Soros…”:
link to ft.com
Wikipedia: Centre for Effective Altruism:
“The Centre for Effective Altruism (CEA) is an Oxford-based charity that builds and supports the effective altruism community. It was founded in 2012 by William MacAskill and Toby Ord, both philosophers at the University of Oxford. CEA is part of Effective Ventures, a federation of projects working to have a large positive impact in the world.
…Sam Bankman-Fried joined CEA as director of development in late 2017, leaving shortly thereafter to fund Alameda Research…”:
link to en.wikipedia.org
World Economic Forum: Agenda Contributor:
William MacAskill: William MacAskill is an ethicist at Oxford and Princeton. He’s the founder and president of 80,000 Hours, an ethical careers advisory service:
link to weforum.org
World Economic Forum: Agenda Contributor:
Toby Ord: Senior Research Fellow, University of Oxford:
link to weforum.org
World Economic Forum: The Davos Agenda 2021: Digital Identity:
What is the World Economic Forum doing about digital identity?
link to weforum.org
World Economic Forum: People:
Nicola Sturgeon:
link to weforum.org
ComputerWeekly (17/11/2022): Scottish government to pilot digital identity platform in early 2023:
“The Scottish government plans to begin trialling its own digital identity platform early next year, running a pilot with Disclosure Scotland.
The pilot will allow users of Disclosure Scotland’s services – the equivalent of the Disclosure and Barring Service in England and Wales – to use secure sign-on, providing users with one set of login details to access multiple services, as well as online identity verification.
Speaking at the Think Digital for Government conference today, Gavin Ross, the Scottish government’s policy lead for digital identity, said the pilot will be running a minimum viable product, and following on from that, “our focus is on exploring how we support Social Security Scotland and, indeed, health services”…”:
link to computerweekly.com
G20 (2017): Digital Identity Onboarding:
Executive Summary:
“Governments are adopting electronic means of cash transfer to streamline processes and prevent leakage. Digital IDs can substantially strengthen the efficiency and effectiveness of the state…
With a focus on digital ID, this paper is intended to guide interventions at country level…
…World Bank Group, adhering to the mandate set by the Group of 20 (G20), the report looks at how financial services can leverage digital ID systems…
Principles on Identification for Sustainable Development’ developed by the World Bank Group …will form the guiding principle for this report…”:
link to gpfi.org
World Economic Forum: Agenda Contributor:
The World Bank:
link to weforum.org
World Economic Forum: Partners:
EY (Ernst and Young):
link to weforum.org
World Economic Forum: Agenda Contributor:
Kristalina Georgieva: Managing Director, International Monetary Fund (IMF):
link to weforum.org
InternationalMonetaryFund (2020): The Great Reset: Remarks to World Economic Forum:
Kristalina Georgieva, Managing Director, IMF:
“…thanks to His Royal Highness the Prince of Wales and to Professor Schwab for bringing us together.
…now is the time for all of us to define our own role…
From the perspective of the IMF… we concentrate on the key elements …and act now. We don’t need to wait.
At the IMF, we see some tremendous opportunities.”:
link to imf.org
HeraldScot (2015): Sturgeon to meet World Bank and IMF in Washington:
“The First Minister will attend meetings with the World Bank and the IMF on a trip to Washington DC next month.
Nicola Sturgeon will also address potential investors at a business event in New York City.
Ms Sturgeon said: “We know that Scotland is a great place to live… That’s why it is so important that Scotland continues to build our reputation right around the world. Ernst and Young’s latest Attractiveness Survey showed that 2014 was Scotland’s most successful year…
As part of my visit I am also looking forward to learning from the experience of New York and Washington DC, particularly… discussing with the World Bank and IMF how to build the link between economic growth and inequality.”…”:
link to heraldscotland.com
Committee on Oversight and Reform: November 17, 2022: A President Compromised: The Biden Family Investigation:
Executive Summary:
“During the 2020 presidential campaign, then-presidential candidate Joe Biden assured the American people he was not involved in his family members’ multi-million-dollar global
business deals…
Evidence obtained by Committee on Oversight and Reform Republicans shows these assurances were false. President Joe Biden has participated in his family’s global business ventures with America’s adversaries. He has misused his public positions to further his family’s financial interests. These actions have created the potential for President Biden to be susceptible to influence, blackmail, or extortion by a malign or foreign entity…
A review of Hunter Biden’s abandoned laptop, as well as information from whistleblowers, reveals a decade-long pattern of influence peddling, national security risks, and political cover-ups. Biden family members used their connections with Joe Biden to enrich themselves through the expectation of access to Joe Biden… There are numerous unanswered questions raised by these suspicious activities that warrant further investigation.
…the media’s response to Hunter Biden’s abandoned laptop—full of documents detailing suspicious business deals worth millions of dollars—was not to report this information, but to hide it…
…investigation has uncovered evidence demonstrating deliberate, repeated deception of the American people, abuse of the Executive Branch for personal gain, use of government power to obstruct the investigation and prevent transparency, and potential violations of the United States Constitution’s Foreign Emoluments Clause.
…a complex network of relatives and associates to enrich the Biden family—has exposed the United States to national security risks that could be leveraged by our enemies to undermine the Office of the President…”:
link to republicans-oversight.house.gov
Corruption:
“Illegal, bad, or dishonest behaviour, especially by people in positions of power.”
“The investigation revealed political chicanery and corruption at the highest levels.”
link to dictionary.cambridge.org
CHVRCHES (2015): Leave A Trace:
“…Anything you ever did was strictly by design
But you got it wrong
And I’ll go anywhere but there
And you had best believe that you cannot build what I don’t need
Take care to bury all that you can
Take care to leave a trace of a man…”:
link to tinyurl.com
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (16/11/2022): Earth can regulate its own temperature over millennia, new study finds:
Scientists have confirmed that a “stabilizing feedback” on 100,000-year timescales keeps global temperatures in check:
“The Earth’s climate has undergone some big changes, from global volcanism to planet-cooling ice ages and dramatic shifts in solar radiation. And yet life, for the last 3.7 billion years, has kept on beating.
Now, a study by MIT researchers in Science Advances confirms that the planet harbors a “stabilizing feedback” mechanism that acts over hundreds of thousands of years to pull the climate back from the brink, keeping global temperatures within a steady, habitable range.
Scientists have long suspected that silicate weathering plays a major role in regulating the Earth’s carbon cycle. The mechanism of silicate weathering could provide a geologically constant force in keeping carbon dioxide — and global temperatures — in check. But there’s never been direct evidence for the continual operation of such a feedback, until now…
The results are the first to use actual data to confirm the existence of a stabilizing feedback, the mechanism of which is likely silicate weathering. This stabilizing feedback would explain how the Earth has remained habitable through dramatic climate events in the geologic past…”:
link to news.mit.edu
DailyMail (18/11/2022): Dozens of documents relating to late pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s associates will be UNSEALED after judge rules the public interest outweighs right to privacy:
“…Judge Loretta Preska on Friday ruled that the material concerning eight people should be unsealed despite one subject claiming it could ‘wrongfully harm (his) privacy and reputation.’
Among those whose names are mentioned in the documents are Emmy Tayler, Ghislaine Maxwell’s former personal assistant, who was accused of taking part in the sexual abuse of minors…”:
link to dailymail.co.uk
UN: What Is Climate Change?
“Climate change refers to long-term shifts in temperatures and weather patterns. These shifts may be natural, such as through variations in the solar cycle…”:
link to un.org
BBC (2019): Nicola Sturgeon declares ‘climate emergency’ at SNP conference:
“Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has declared a “climate emergency” in her speech to the SNP conference.
The SNP leader told delegates in Edinburgh she was inspired after meeting young climate campaigners who had gone on strike from school.
Ms Sturgeon said “they are right”, and pledged to “live up to our responsibility” to halt climate change…”:
link to bbc.co.uk
FOI: Scottish Government: Published 22 August 2022:
Information requested:
“Any correspondence between the Scottish Government and the Scottish National Investment Bank on the topic of investing in Orbital Energy from May 7 to date.”:
Information supplied:
“…Orbital Marine Power completes operational finance of world’s most powerful tidal turbine Orbital, the renewable energy company focused on the development and global deployment of its pioneering floating tidal turbine technology, today reached a significant operational funding milestone.
New investment secured from the Scottish National Investment Bank and individuals via the Abundance Investment platform will finance the ongoing operation…
The first element of the funding is a £4m investment from the Scottish National Investment Bank…
The support of the Bank represents an institutional vote of confidence in the company’s trajectory and there is scope for this relationship to develop further as Orbital continues its credible course…”:
https://www.gov.scot/binaries/content/documents/govscot/publications/foi-eir-release/2022/08/foi-202200311897/documents/foi-202200311897—information-released/foi-202200311897—information-released/govscot%3Adocument/FOI%2B202200311897%2B-%2BInformation%2Breleased.pdf
CNN: Money: Orbital Infrastructure Group Inc:
“Top 10 Owners of Orbital Infrastructure Group Inc:
The Vanguard Group, Inc.; G. W. Henssler & Associates Ltd.; BlackRock Fund Advisors…”:
link to money.cnn.com
Vanguard (2022): Vanguard joins Global Parity Alliance:
“Vanguard has become a founding member of the Global Parity Alliance, a group dedicated to advancing diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) in the workplace. We are proud to be the first asset management company to participate in the alliance, which was launched March 30 by the World Economic Forum, in collaboration with consultant firm McKinsey & Company.”:
link to corporate.vanguard.com
World Economic Forum: Organizations:
PwC: Headquarters USA:
link to weforum.org
World Economic Forum: Organizations:
EY (Ernst & Young):
link to weforum.org
World Economic Forum: Organizations:
McKinsey & Company: Headquarters USA:
link to weforum.org
World Economic Forum: Organizations:
Teneo: Headquarters USA:
link to weforum.org
Scotsman (03/10/2022): Scottish Ministers make up to £32m available for ‘due diligence’ on failing companies:
“The new framework will give ministers the ability to quickly hire giant consultancy firms to help provide information on companies around which the government may be considering an intervention.
Six firms, including two members of the ‘Big Four’ accountancy firms, EY and PricewaterhouseCoopers, American consultancy giant McKinsey and Company, Interpath Advisory (previously KPMG’s restructuring practice), Teneo Restructuring Limited and FRP Advisory, have been appointed to the framework…”:
link to scotsman.com
GeorgeNewsDC: White House Press Briefing live (18/11.2022): Open press mic:
link to tinyurl.com
BBC (21/11/2022): NHS chiefs in Scotland discuss having wealthy pay for treatment:
“NHS leaders in Scotland have discussed abandoning the founding principles of the service by having the wealthy pay for treatment.
The discussion of a “two-tier” health service is mentioned in draft minutes of a meeting of NHS Scotland health board chief executives in September.
They also raise the possibility of curtailing some free prescriptions…”:
link to archive.ph