Wings Over Scotland

SLab – autonomous to have its own thoughts and policies, just not to implement any of them.

That about it?

It’s like they are running out of ideas, like, properly running out, gone, done dusted.

The Media report its Groundhog Day again and we are meant to believe it!

Two establishment pillars lashed together will only mean they tumble at the same time. That time seems to be approaching rapidly and its speeding up, heading for the buffers!

Thanks Stu, for this and all you do!

Groundhog day!

Got to be! 😮

Nearly top of the news in shortbread land this ‘Scottish’labour autonomy!

I saw big Brian on BBC shortbread tv news a wee while ago ask Deputy Deadwood that very same question and he wasn’t fooled, because he had his hand up to his mouth trying to hide the smirk!

He did however try to explain it all to us thick Scots viewers in such a way that it sounded good news all round… FGS!

I have said it before “Has Brian lost some weight”?
Surely he’s fading away to nothing just like ‘Scottish labour’

Meanwhile Owen throws in the towel moments after voting closed on the leadership race, Ruthie must have given him a call on how the postal votes had gone. 🙂

The problem is that the MSM will push this story as a big positive for Labour and there is no one like the Rev to publically take on Dugdale and expose this nonsense for what it is.

A turd disappearing down a toilet.
Once in a generation we here.
It would take more than a generation for labours antics during the 2014 referendum to be forgotten. How they happily climbed into bed with the torys, their political enemy and prostituted themselves.
Darling was after one thing. A stoat round his neck.
Darling and Brown will not be forgotten. They are up there with thatcher.

Whit again if they become anymore autonomous and loosen any more ties their trousers will fall down.

That is the fun bit. SLAB can promise sweeties for all to get the popular vote, and the Westminster party can do what the hell they want. In effect we would be voting for ONE set of policies by a party which is going to enact another.

I think we should hear Jim Murphy`s opinion not on Slab autonomy but on the possibility they stole his glue bag stash.

Its been a big mystery since Jim disappeared on his voyage of talking pish to who ever will listen,did he take it with him or did they send him out evo free riding on his crate with many eggs.

I think we should be informed and what are the SNP going to do about it.

In a perverse way there is consistency.

The SNP can make policy on devolved matters and since it is in government it can deliver them.

It can say what it likes on reserved matters and it is always ignored at WM!

The underhand aspect of SLab/Labour’s manoeuvrings is that many ordinary voters will be conned by this autonomy crap.

Still … Scottish LibDems, Scottish Conservatives, Scottish Labour … what is supposed to be Scottish about them!? Unionist parties have been pulling this stunt of faux Scottish branding and pretendy autonomy for decades. They won’t stop now.

How many times do I have to tell you nasty nats,Our dear leader never ever said that Labour in S——-d were autonomous,Kezia said that they were Automatons,clockwork dummy’s with broken springs,so let’s have no more of your unwarranted piffle.

Peace Love and Parliamentary Puppets:-)

It doesn’t matter how they wrap it up or what glitzy bling they put on it BLiS is still an English Red Tory Party. They will still be goose-stepping to London’s Calling.

As for the Dug she is a moronic automaton. Her mouth is like an SMG stuck on fire. If she stopped to take a breath she would collapse from Oxygen poisoning.

So who is actually funding this farce of a Party in Scotland? Or is the coin I suspect still coming from London UKOK Central HQ as in dirty foreign money like Bitter Together?

After 17 years of devolution Labour Branch Office still subsidy junkies with a £15 million deficit.

When will they register as a proper Scottish political party and declare the source of its income, imported call centre activity and bodyheat at Scottish elections.

GS Ponsonby nails BBC’s latest smears

link to indyref2.scot

And since you brought up the topic of footie Rev

Well done to the Scottish quines on qualifying for the Euros.

So who cares? It is not even worth a slot on an English TV chatter show. “Defence” is still the London Party bosses, etc.

It’s strange to me that Scottish Labour seem to think they should be run from Scotland, but Scotland itself shouldn’t.

That’s about as close as I’d want them to steering the car too

So the ferociously blue tory and anti devo anything Torygraph boosterises the red tory and ferociously anti devo anything SLabour party.

This is belts out between the ears of UKOK hackdom.

Its,
link to youtube.com

They must think that we all came up the Clyde on a bicycle, FGS. Labour in Scotland is as autonomous as Moothie’s Tory Party and WW Winkie’s Lib-Dems. They ALL take their orders from London and always will do (until we get our Independence). Westminster Party before the Scottish people. End of.

This arrangement has been agreed with Labour’s NEC! Is that not quite telling? Kezia Dugdale had to go cap in hand and ‘ask’ the NEC England for permission in the first place.

Scottish Labour will be directly represented with voting rights on the NEC by a frontbench member of the Scottish Parliament, nominated by Kezia Dugdale (if she’s still there). I wonder who that will be? James(I’ll no sit doon) Kelly or Jackie (ah canny count but am a guid liar) Baillie? Voting rights on what exactly?

They must be laughing their heads off down south. SLab can contradict the UK’s manifesto policies all they like but at the end of the day it’s empty rhetoric.

Scotland’s Kezia says (with voting rights) …. ”Remove Trident from Scotland right now”. England’s Corbyn (or whoever) says ”Get stuffed. You’re lumbered with it.” …. Kezia ”Stop bombing Syria.” ”Get lost we’ll bomb away.” …. Kezia ”We’re not pulling out of the EU.” ”Too bad. We are. That means you too. Sit down and shut up.”

They’ll still be financed by Labour (England). What does that tell you? The only hope that these losers have, the losers that told us that we’d remain in the EU if we voted No (etc, etc, etc), is to join us in seeking Independence: Not autonomy.

But how will the media turn this into an SNP BAD story? I wait with baited breath…and a cup of tea.

When my boss gave me the sack I told her I totally disagreed with her decision. Guess what!

Nary a year ago “autonomous” SLab did make an autonomous decision and one which caused the glass walls of Pacific Quay to explode into the Clyde. So autonomous Kez changed it back, autonomously and very quickly too.

link to thenational.scot

Labour’s Branch Office is to UK Labour what Scotland is to Westminster – something to be used and abused for political gain. But the number of those saying “enough is enough” is growing by the day.

SLab, BLiS or whatever you want to call them, are a bit light on autonomy; and more automaton, with London as ever pulling the strings. (I know it’s puppets that have strings)

Automaton via Wikipedia

An automaton(plural: automata or automatons) is a self-operating machine, or a machine or control mechanism designed to follow automatically a predetermined sequence of operations, or respond to predetermined instructions. Some automata, such as bellstrikers in mechanical clocks, are designed to give the illusion to the casual observer that they are operating under their own power.

@derekM,

Just had a good old laugh – I’d forgotten Jims confession about sniffing glue.

There’s worse – much worse.
link to thecanary.co

Excellent Stu, more Unionist State propaganda, still running the show in Cybernatland, but also frothing in England since Corbyn’s appearance centre stage.

Getting seriously serious.

If a senior Labour Party figure died, and was taken to the funeral parlour, we’d be sure to get a quote from the coffin via the BBC’s roving reporter, saying SNP Bad.

The other obvious thing that is missing from the glorious headlines is the fact that London Labour will be still bailing out their branch office in Scotland with money.
How can you be autonomous when you’re under their financial thumb?

Tortured Crichton of the Daily Raggard blared from my dashboard this morning on BBC Radio Jordanhill News Where We Are, that the So Called Scottish Labour Party was now, no seriously this time, fully autonomous. The man is either an idiot or thinks that we are.
I surfed BBC So Called Scotland 2016(Why not go the whole hog and rename it ‘North Briton 2016’) from last night.
Those two New Labour Big Beasts, Rhea Wolfson in the studio. interviewed by an embattled looking Graham Stewart, and Johanna Baxter, live from the BBC Death Star at the heart of the Holy London Empire, more or less confirmed that So Called Scottish Labour had permission from the NEC to peddle this quite seriously deranged guff.
Rhea Wolfson (I know nobody knows who she is) is apparently a Momentum activist newly elected to the NEC: a young firebrand, with big glasses, she objected to the principle that an unaccountable MSP , appointed by Kezia the Auto, would be allowed to sit on the NEC, and doggedly pointed out that the surreal, bordering on psychotic breakdown of So Called Scottish Labour’s Bid For Freedom would need to get the OK from Conference.

I haven’t a baldy notion who Johanna Baxter is.
They couldn’t even get any of the stalwarts on air to front this piece of pish.
BBC News Where We are is full of it today. Yes, BBC North Briton, you are full of it.
Stu, what about Sanderson of the Clyde at the Colonial Herald?

“ASSURANCES that Brexit will not lead to a hard border in Ireland do not necessarily mean the same rule would apply to travel between an independent Scotland and England, leading academics have warned.”
England will erect an Offa’s Dyke, sorry a brick retaining wall, from the Isle of whithorn to the Tweed, to hem in the Scottish Europeans.

That would be Professor Nicola McEwen .also featured on North Briton 2016 last night, as were Henry McLeish, looking muddled again, who chaired the ‘sold out’ Constitutional Change Conference, and three passports Professor Michael Keating, banging on about not having a constitution again, and another Professor, Linda Bauld of Stirling University, commenting on the latest Health Survey that finds that a 1/3 of us Scots are fat basters, 1/4 of our women aged between 55 and 65 are gumsy basters, and that we’re not eating our five a day.
The Stirling academic seems to think we need to communicate more to the Great Unwashed, and that the Government has to do more, and those nasty supermarkets must be told off, or words to that effect. (I have, as you probably know, the transcript.)

The Unionist MSM and Kezia Dugdale and the New Labour Gravy Trainers hiding behind the Branch Office sofa today, and apparently our ‘leading’ academics and Old New Labour Hangers On like McLeish, seem to have completely lost any sense of what Scotland is all about in the 21st Century.

Rhea Wolfson? Johanna Baxter? They are running out mugs willing to peddle their pish.

You can bet that all of this charade is as a result of some feed back SLAB keeps getting, that the reason voters are abandoning them, is that they are perceived as being run from Westminster for London’s and the South Easts, benefit.

So they are left with a dilemma:

Break away from London Labour, and begin to put forward policies that are designed for Scotland and her peoples benefit…

Or, use their friends in the London controlled media, to attempt to fool or con the people of Scotland.

Same old Labour…always lying!

You say you have autonomy but why?
With truth you show economy, you lie!
And let me tell you mon ami
That though I speak with bonhomie
Your pish is just NOT-ON-omy – bye bye!

@Lanarkist says: 21 September, 2016 at 3:33 pm:

“It’s like they are running out of ideas, like, properly running out, gone, done dusted”.

Dinna be daft, Lanarkist. Ye canna be rinnin oot o ideas until efter ye hae some ideas tae begin wi’.

I have a labour MSP on Twitter complimenting me on my “gift” of clairvoyance.

“So if I vote Scottish Labour can I get rid of Trident yet?”

Yes, Training Day, The Question Which Will Never Be Asked, at least by our totally corrupt media.

Good to see Kezia’s usual talent for backing a loser. Maybe by the weekend she’ll be gone too. If Rowley takes over will SLiS______d flip to Yes? Self-preservation after all: certainly not done on principle.

JLT: left a wee message for you yesterday on O/T.

become “fully autonomous”

LOL!!

Fully autonomous? What does that mean? And what are they at the moment then, half autonomous? 2 thirds and a bit autonomous?

It sounds very much like the sort of undefined and ambiguous unit of measure used by those big wigs that were talking about becoming ‘the most devolved country in the world’…

So did anyone notice rancid The Graun’s rather nasty deliberate mistake there? Ok I’ll tell you.

“The SNP, which has consistently goaded the Scottish party as being controlled by “London Labour”, has taken several hundred thousand voters from Labour, pushing it into third place in the Scottish parliament and leaving it with just one MP at Westminster.”

What that Britnat shower are leaving out today, is that SLab actual lost a lot of SLab voters to the tory party, last Scottish GE. Libby Carrell doesn’t do honest journalism but its the usual sneaky creepy UKOK omission Graun style. And SLab losing votes to the tories probably wasn’t down to future Lady Ruth Davidson either, a working class tory, the best kind of tory.

Just ask my Slovene girlfriend, common as muck, says he lives in a one party state, good kisser though, and dirty, dirty, dirty, dirty.

link to twitter.com

On topic of posh boy liggers, Chrichton Torquil is all over the autonomous SLab shop here.

link to archive.is

In summary, Autonomous Torquil sez, do it Autonomous Kes but don’t do it Autonomously, just keep the plebs very confused, UKOK hackdom will do the hard bits, with the biggest ever byline photo in world journo history too! Vanity, you are mental as anything.

“(We’ve already noted that it shouldn’t even be possible to do that under UK electoral law, but we can’t see the Electoral Commission getting involved.)”

Anyone can complain to the EC, and it investigates.

Maria F at 6.40
Correct. Your either autonomous or you are not autonomous. There are no degrees of autonomy

It wouldn’t surprise in the slightest if this new ‘autonomy’ simply turns out to be a power grab by the Blairites from the Corbynites.

All this autonomy nonsense. It all revolves around the believe that a percentage of voters do in fact have heads which zip up the back!

It fits in with everything Unionists have done for at least four years now. Never trying very hard to sell anything by positive message. Never ever engaging in debate with proven facts, oh no, stick to spin, twisting, lying, and fear-mongering. And central to this is that belief that there are enough gullible or uninterested voters to get them through to their next fiasco.

Here’s a suggestion for them. If they don’t like the idea of IndyRef2 why don’t they stand on a manifesto of no ref. Then attract enough voters to form a government, a coalition even.

Wait a minute, they did in May. That was rejected. We have a parliament where a majority of MSPs did have another referendum in their manifestos!

So, when one occurs that is democracy taking its course.

And that highlights that other aspect of 21stC Unionism – democracy is fine as long as they win. Otherwise they don’t like democracy much!

@ galamcennalath says at 4:02 pm …. ”The underhand aspect of SLab/Labour’s manoeuvrings is that many ordinary voters will be conned by this autonomy crap.”…

It’s started already. Bernard Ponsonby on STV news raving about ”significant developments” for Slab. STV scrolling through all of the changes / powers that they’ll have. Not one mention of the fact that if Westminster Labour disagrees with Slab on any policy at all they’re on a hiding to nothing. More than anything this is a totally powerless, incompetent London based political party that’s irreversibly divided ‘giving’ …. ‘power’ to a Scottish party that’s gone down the stank. Overtaken by the Tories in Scotland, FGS.

Then we had the ‘SNP putting an additional 9 million into NHS to support over the winter months. The opposition say it’s not enough.’

You know now that when it has anything to do with ‘cut’s’ they (STV) wont interview Moothie the ‘austerity cutting’ Westminster Government’s Scottish trumpeteer. You know it’ll be Rennie (usually moaning about Police Scotland right enough) or someone from Labour, with no follow-up rebuttal from the SNP. Sure enough it was Sarwar complaining, through his blocked nose, that the amount had been cut by .7 million on last year. ”People will suffer (SNP Baad).” Labour’s Sarwar representing a party who had an abysmal record in relation to the NHS (etc, etc). Never ever pointed out by STV.

Funny too how you never hear anyone, such as Ponsonby, enquire about the 10% cuts SNP / Holyrood has had to deal with, over time, administered by Tory Westminster and backed by their Labour pals. ‘Austerity cuts’ that Labour didn’t have to contend with when they were in power. They had so much money they were handing it back to Westminster whilst their failed PPI initiative was ripping us off. Additionally whilst many people were suffering.

STV are now well and truly in competition with the BBC to see who can win the prestigious ‘most biased, lying, manipulative’ media award.

O/T

Amber Rudd and Borosso among those named in the latest offshore leaks

link to icij.org

Westminster & this tory lot stink of corruption

Perhaps heedtracker can provide the guardian link

Never mind Labour. I had an interesting conversation with an SNP supporter of Trident. There actually are some.

“What actual purpose does Trident serve?” I asked.
“It protects us from attack. It deters our enemies.”
“So Austria and Holland and Denmark and Italy and so on will have one?”
“Er. No”
“So they have no enemies?”
“No. But they don’t need one….”
“Ah. Why? perhaps because we’ve got it?”
“Well yes…..”
“Okay. So who’s going to attack us?”
“Enemies of the west.”
“So we are protecting “the west”?”
“Probably…..”
“Don’t you maybe mean America?”
“Well, perhaps…..”
“So why isn’t Trident up the Hudson River, 23 miles from New York?”
“Well, that would be bit dangerous, surely…….”
“Exactly. That’s like what the MOD said in 2013. Trident, they said, couldn’t be moved to the south coast of England because of the danger it posed to a civilian population. Do you live in Greenock or Helensburgh?”
“No. I live in Argyll”
“Oh, that’s OK then. But they’d get about 28 seconds if there was a nuclear attack or a big nuclear accident”
“Oh.”
“And most of Central Scotland would curl up and die in the following months. So let’s go back a bit. Why would anybody actually want to attack Scotland?”
“Dunno……”
“Could it be because we’ve got a nuclear base?”
“But, but, but – look at all the jobs….”
“Aye. All 552 of them……For that we become the world’s biggest target”
“What? 552 jobs?”
“Yes. 552. And here’s what Hammond told North Korea. Having nuclear weapons doesn’t protect you, he told them. They make you a target.”
Mumble.
“So Scotland is expendable?”
“I didn’t say that……”
“Didn’t you?”

Haw Dippy, just like the back seat driver you’ll get to voice your feigned authority but we all know who’s truly in control and if you’re really lucky you might just get to drive the wee pink bus.

From WOS Twitter feed

From Cairnstoon

Channel 4 news: irony bypass…McTernan talking about ‘saving Labour by going back to the ’80s’ and Owen ‘ Labour yoof’ mouthpiece talking to his solid Labour parents in Edinburgh…which he admits ‘seems like a million miles away from London’..ffs more settlers who live in an English metropolitan bubble in little England of Edinburgh…no recognition of Scotland, its polity, its being on the brink of Indy…just same old Anglocentric blind Corbynista crap…and no mention of SLAB ‘AUTONOMY’ either!

@ Dave McEwan Hill says at 8:20 pm …. ”Never mind Labour. I had an interesting conversation with an SNP supporter of Trident. There actually are some. “What actual purpose does Trident serve?” I asked. “It protects us from attack. It deters our enemies.”

Good one Dave. Additionally didn’t seem to deter the Argentinians from invading the Falklands.

delete “autonomous” insert “automatons”

‘Kevin McKenna: Darling and his Better Together disciples make it hard to see a way back for Labour.’

”For many voters who said Yes to independence two years ago the most dispiriting aspect of an otherwise vivid and rewarding campaign of civic engagement was the conduct of many senior figures in the Labour Party in Scotland. From the very beginning of the campaign Labour Party members who had dared publicly to consider voting for independence found that retribution from within the People’s Party was swift and brutal. Many were hounded out of constituency parties that they’d served faithfully for years. They were derided as “Nationalist stooges” by party managers who had foolishly assumed that these disruptors represented a tiny faction within the party.”……

….”There was also a degree of bemusement at the fervour and passion with which many Labour figures attacked independence and defended the Union. Would that Jim Murphy or Alistair Darling had displayed similar intensity and selfless daily commitment to defending the tens of thousands of their supporters whose families’ futures were being threatened by the party with whom they were all so keen to link arms during the referendum.” ….

….”Only one political entity is in mortal political peril and that’s the Labour Party in Scotland. This party, which once possessed a sense of entitlement to the popular vote in Scotland, is now languishing behind the Tories, thanks in no small measure to the disastrous leadership of Better Together by Darling and his chinas. Several of their most high-profile figures still gleefully advance the myth of the referendum being “divisive” and beastly. In doing so, they simply give the party’s former supporters another reason not to return to the fold any time soon.” …

link to thenational.scot

Ooops just noticed that the article may be blocked. This is the full article.

‘Kevin McKenna: Darling and his Better Together disciples make it hard to see a way back for Labour.’

”For many voters who said Yes to independence two years ago the most dispiriting aspect of an otherwise vivid and rewarding campaign of civic engagement was the conduct of many senior figures in the Labour Party in Scotland. From the very beginning of the campaign Labour Party members who had dared publicly to consider voting for independence found that retribution from within the People’s Party was swift and brutal. Many were hounded out of constituency parties that they’d served faithfully for years. They were derided as “Nationalist stooges” by party managers who had foolishly assumed that these disruptors represented a tiny faction within the party.

It was one of several extraordinary misjudgements made by senior Labour Party figures and their highly paid strategists and advisers. Around one-third of Labour Party supporters were found to have voted Yes and as Labour’s referendum errors and misjudgements mounted up weekly, so the seeds of future electoral annihilation were being sown. These Labour supporters, sickened by the way they had been treated by their own party, turned their backs on it and walked into the arms of the SNP. They were joined by tens of thousands of others who felt betrayed and let down by the gusto with which senior party figures joined with the Tories on Unionist platforms.

The way many of them conducted themselves as the final result was delivered left an unpleasant after-taste. No-one is suggesting that Labour supporters who felt sincerely that Scotland’s future would be better served within the Union were not entitled to feel pleased. As the final outcome began to materialise, several facets of Labour triumphalism began to grate.

Tory fervour for the Union was rooted in cultural and social beliefs far different to those that ought to have fuelled Labour support for the status quo. In the three centuries or so that have elapsed since the Union was created it has helped to preserve the power, influence and wealth of a tiny and privileged syndicate representing a narrow bandwidth of interests. The Union provides the oxygen and means of sustaining this cartel.

The wars of adventure and the plundering of foreign lands to extend the empire was not done for the greater glory of Britannia and its people but to enrich a few aristocrats and industrialists by grabbing land, annexing goods and enslaving people. It was little wonder that the British establishment deployed all means at its disposal to save the Union.

There could have been a separate and authentic Labour narrative for supporting the Union which would have applied a moral and ethical clamp on any suggestions of sharing stages with the Tories.

There was also a degree of bemusement at the fervour and passion with which many Labour figures attacked independence and defended the Union. Would that Jim Murphy or Alistair Darling had displayed similar intensity and selfless daily commitment to defending the tens of thousands of their supporters whose families’ futures were being threatened by the party with whom they were all so keen to link arms during the referendum.

Andrew Tickell, who blogs as Lallands Peat Worrier, has written vividly of sharing a cigarette with me outside the BBC on referendum night as the outcome began to reveal itself. We were interrupted by Margaret Curran who was so overcome by the moment that, in the words of Andrew, she performed “a jinking danse macabre”. That moment is embedded in my consciousness, too, and won’t easily be dislodged.

The bleating and faux outrage of Murphy, Darling, Brian Wilson and a host of other Labour figures at the “nastiness” and “bitterness” of the campaign was dishonest and insulting to the 3.6 million people who had participated in what overseas observers were describing as “the gold standard” of democratic engagement.

That Darling is still advancing this nonsense two years later suggests that no lessons have been learned by Labour in Scotland even as it teeters on the brink of oblivion. Darling’s victory speech in the early hours of September 19 struck a shrill and sour tone and possessed not an ounce of grace or humility. It was no surprise when he scuttled off soon afterwards into the ample arms of Morgan Stanley to help the world’s super-rich preserve their assets – a fitting corollary to his efforts in saving the Union.

In marking the second anniversary of the Scottish independence referendum Darling also took the opportunity to offer a few words of warning to Nicola Sturgeon about the dangers of holding a second one. With the sort of wisdom he had used while leading a Better Together campaign which shipped 17 percentage points in less than two years, Darling said: “If she loses, she knows she would be finished. That’s why she is in no hurry to rush into it.”

Such a statement ignores the fact that, so long as the SNP keep winning Scottish elections by huge margins, its leader is virtually bombproof.

Only one political entity is in mortal political peril and that’s the Labour Party in Scotland. This party, which once possessed a sense of entitlement to the popular vote in Scotland, is now languishing behind the Tories, thanks in no small measure to the disastrous leadership of Better Together by Darling and his chinas. Several of their most high-profile figures still gleefully advance the myth of the referendum being “divisive” and beastly. In doing so, they simply give the party’s former supporters another reason not to return to the fold any time soon.

They persist in this fiction while sabotaging all attempts by its democratically elected leader, Jeremy Corbyn, to lead the party. The most important political task in the UK after that of actually governing the nation is that of opposing the serving administration so that there is proper scrutiny and accountability of its legislation. The attempted coup to remove Corbyn, supported by Labour’s Scottish leader, has wrecked any chance of proper opposition to the Tories at Westminster.

Yesterday, my friend David told me that his wife, a Tory supporter all her days, had just paid her £25 to join the Labour Party. “She just thinks that Corbyn’s the real deal: an honest politician who genuinely wants to improve the lives of the many. There’s definitely something stirring in the country.”

There is something stirring and it’s more important than ditching your values to earn a shot at compromised government. Once more though, Labour in Scotland, just as it did in the first independence referendum, has failed to read the sings of the times.”

When is a “Kept Wummin” ever autonomous?

Just reading about Theresa May being outed by Amal Clooney at the UN. She’ll no like that!

The Sun: ‘Theresa May was last night panned by celebrity neighbour (village of Sonning) Amal Clooney for not letting more refugees into the UK.

George Clooney’s wife, Human Rights lawyer, spoke out at the UN in New York. She said Britain had so far given asylum to only one family of Yazidis fleeing the IS genocide in the Middle East.

The criticism will be highly embarrassing for the PM especially as Germany has given asylum to a million refugees in the last year and 70,000 of those have been Yazidis.’

Fred:
Have you been back at 11% recently?

Peace Always

Embarrassing

Question – did anyone see if the EBC ran this story with a straight face?

@ Proud Cybernat, 4:11pm

Autonomous? Given that they have only one MP in Scotland and they’re saying the same thing over and over, it should be monotonous.

Okay, that did make me laugh.

Just watched Kezia on Scotland tonight, A complete ass—e with verbal diarrhoea, absolute bampot, hypocrite and liar. And that is some of her strengths.

Aunt Sally: Can I be autumnolous Worzel

Worzel Gummidge: Autumnolous? OH! you means ‘autonomous’ mi dear.
Corse ye can, Corse. Now just you runs along now and makes me and Mr Crowman ‘ere a nass cups o tea.

Why would “Scottish” Labour want to be autonomous? If we are Better Together, aren’t they Better Together too?

I’m so confused. Not as confused as Kezia, though.

heedtracker,

“Sassenach” or “Sooth-Moother”?

or…?

Ronnie says:
21 September, 2016 at 11:29 pm
heedtracker,

“Sassenach” or “Sooth-Moother”?

or…?

Lets face it, there is none really. Although just prefacing anything with, English …. and that tends do the trick. Or it should but then the race card is often played. Never accept the race card. There is no English race, just human. Which rancid The Graun says is actually African. Should give gits like Farage and Phil the Greek something to chew on.

link to archive.is

Nasally PR BBC honk:Toffs Snash. Your welcome:-)

Peace Always

Why should Scotlands finance secretary be giving a running commentary on his budget before the English chancellor announces his and how much of that budget is going to be cut

Is the SNP to show it’s hand before the English Tories decide what they’re doing, that doesn’t sound wise

How come it’s OK for Theresa May not to tell anybody anything about anything but not cricket for the SNP to do the same

The SNP won and are still winning, they’re not just a different Labour party, so ideas from ex Labour party members are welcome and listened to but only inasmuch as mistakes to be learned from not to repeat the ones they lost by

New members who came from Labour are a good thing but they must also accept the SNP way is different from the old Labour way
I’m very pleased to be a member of the only party in Scotland who actually IS Autonomous (Wee Jaggy bit for Kezia there)

link to spiegel.de

Reading the article referenced above, I had to admit to myself that I knew very little indeed about the EU. Not only that, but that what I did know came from the British media.

I have resolved to learn more about the running of the EU, and to ignore everything I see coming from Westminster on the subject of Europe. After all, England lies to us Scots about virtually everything, why would anyone trust them on any subject, particularly Europe in light of Brexit.

link to bbc.co.uk
Kenny McCaskill in the Herald and Alex Neil in the Holyrood Magazine don’t see Indyref2 coming soon. Mildly depressing reading. Brexit most certainly has not been a boon to the cause of Independence and with the UK government making no progress, it looks like it’s going to be a long wait before IndyRef2 gets the starting gun.

Not sure if anyones still up, O/T if i can .
I just Watched a debate from Holyrood the subject of the debate ” the crisis in staffing levels in the Scottish health service” The heading gives you an idea of where it originated ,we had an almost uninterrupted diatribe from a f/kn Tory Rubbishing anything the SNP has achieved on health , while listening to this pish i thought of dozens of stinging putdowns to counter this total rubbish that seemed to drone on for ages when the Tory finally sat down i was waiting for the shit storm and the thunderous savage reply from our Minister Shona Robison , Oh well what a bloody disappointment what a total open goal a half hearted reply, surely we can do better , to allow a Tory to ramble on talking pish without as much as a comment to break up this diatribe is unforgivable, hit them between eyes kick them in the nuts ,they have 20% of the vote give them 20% respect , disgusted with the Tory but bloody annoyed with the half hearted reply come on get a f/n grip I mean on the NHS it’s a bloody slam dunk as the yanks would say , stop being polite she even allowed Jackson the tailor to intervene in her reply , listen after what could have been a 10 minute rant from a Tory you allow a interruption from another! one tell them to GTF .

Robert Graham @ 2.17
I’m a bit of a night owl as well.
Didn’t see the debate but just a thought or two.

Sometimes the best way to handle a Rant is to seem calm and unaffected by someone’s nonsense.

Westminster has quite a bad reputation for launching into barney’s and I think the SNP always try not to do it.
But I do agree that it is very frustrating to watch especially when you or I have thought of a dozen ways to “tear strip’s” of those lying fool’s.

I like to think that it’s more frustrating for them when they fail to get a rise out of the SNP even when the most farfetched statements are made.

Statements they have spent time on and they think make them look smart/professional and ready to humiliate the opposition,and the SNP just react like it’s just another hissy fit and more or less say… well whatever.
Now I could be wrong in thinking that this is a deliberate tactic,who knows.
But it does happen quite often and if we can think of rebuttals then I’m pretty sure the SNP can, so I take it they are just trying to be annoying.

What do you think…..if you’re still up?

Man and boy at 12:37

link to scotlandineurope.eu

Essential reading for anyone trying to debunk the EU myths being spread by the usual culprits and parroted by those who derive their opinions from them.

@ Breeks.

Beautifully said.

Links

link to indyref2.scot

link to dailybusinessgroup.co.uk

link to commonspace.scot

link to news.scotland.gov.uk

The SNP Scottish Gov put extra money into the SNHS. Westminster is trying to cut £20Billion off NHS spending rather than increasing it as is necessary. The threatened junior Doctor’s strikes in England might concentrate a few minds.

The Tories were elected to protect NHS and cut the debt. They have done neither. Sanctioning vulnerable people. Cold, hungry, worried people get sick. Spending £Billions on grotesques over budget projects with no business case. Hinkley Point and HS2. So they and their associates can plunder public money. Starving and killing the vulnerable. Illegal wars.

The Tory/Unionists committed electoral fraud in 31 constituencies. They are not even the legitimately elected government. Trying to take the majority out of the EU. They will not succeed.

In a nutshell, Labour is officially allowed to tell Scotland that its policies are the opposite to what they actually are. #LabourElectoralFraud

Liz g:

If I’d known that you were still awake I would have happily chatted with you, I thought everyone else was sleeping so after I posted at 3:10am I went on to listen to music. I just
missed you by a few minutes,pity.

Peace Love and night Owls

Breeks:

We are prey to a beast who’s hunger is insatiable! Charles Darwin would have had problems trying to explain this phenomenon.Excellent observation.Maybe David Icke is partially
correct in this freaky behaviour.

Peace Always

@ Breeks says at 6:27 am …. ”If Westminster is so hollow that the SNP has a policy to frustrate right wing diatribes with passive indifference because allowing themselves to be provoked just provides the media with ammunition to present the SNP as unhinged, it rather begs the question, what is the point of being there? Wouldn’t the effect be the same if there as just an empty seat?” ….

Great post Breeks.

……….

@ Robert Graham saysat 2:17 am …. ”I just watched a debate from Holyrood the subject of the debate ”the crisis in staffing levels in the Scottish health service.” The heading gives you an idea of where it originated, we had an almost uninterrupted diatribe from a f/kn Tory rubbishing anything the SNP has achieved on health, while listening to this pish i thought of dozens of stinging putdowns to counter this total rubbish that seemed to drone on for ages when the Tory finally sat down i was waiting for the shit storm and the thunderous savage reply from our Minister Shona Robison, Oh well what a bloody disappointment what a total open goal a half hearted reply, surely we can do better.”……

I didn’t see it Robert but can visualise it and like Smallaxe can feel your pain too.

I watched the Claim of Right debate recently that Patrick Grady SNP MP had requested be discussed at Westminster. Michael Gove, Alberto Costa, Ian Murray et al used it as a platform to stand up and (go on and on and on) very convincingly run the SNP and Scotland down to the ground. If I didn’t know better I would have been taken in by them. If you didn’t see it check it out on Hansard.

link to hansard.parliament.uk

I thought that Patrick Grady would be jotting down some notes relating to every lie that they told and when they had finished their spiel would stand up and counter their claims. Better still throw in a few facts about Scotland versus England, but NO.

The opposition are on the ball. The name of their game of course relates to brainwashing and influencing the viewers. They cram in as much (false) data as is possible in the short time that they have, say if it relates to a television programme, and of course can drag it out for even longer if it’s a behind the scenes debate. Over and above cramming in as much as they can they use strategies such as interrupting to ensure they break your concentration / the flow of conversation … take you off in a tangent to ensure that you can’t have your say …. don’t get your point across. If there’s more than one ‘opposer’, as seems to have been the case re. the staffing levels, they work in tandem with each other.

I support the SNP 100% but they really need to get their act together. They don’t have to be nasty or uncivil just come across as being truthful, knowledgeable and professional. They could start by holding role play classes for example by pretending that they are facing someone like Andrew Neil (ha, ha!). I don’t know … just a suggestion. Whatever the case they’ll have to get their act together and soon, as the Unionists are going to be upping the ante over the next couple of years or so.

link to mindtools.com

They could also think about disseminating some information and throwing it in our (and the publics) direction, such as an approximate breakdown of GDP figures relating to an Independent Scotland, potential revenue figures relating to the renewable energy sector in comparison to the oil sector, the type / percentage of Scottish goods being shipped from English ports and so on. Information like that would help make us a more competent fighting force instead of us all having to spend time searching for data and trying to figure things out for ourselves.

OT;- It is reported that there is a 7 mile tail back on the M8 this morning. I demand that one of the red blue or yellow Tories hold Nicola Sturgeon to account for this at FMQ today.
Well, it will help pad out the Go Large 45 minute session introduced by the new presiding officer, won’t it?

Stephen Pound, the London MP, appeared to give the plan more support, believing Dugdale herself could join the NEC as the Scottish representative. “Why on Earth would a London MP have anything to say on this subject?” he told The National.

Told that the matter would go to the UK conference, he added: “Kezia is a bright, intelligent and positive person who would be an absolute adornment to the NEC. We need people with her brain power on the NEC. However, I rather suspect she has work to do in Scotland rather than spending time down here.”

Is it any wonder Labour isn’t working very well.

Jack Collatin: M8

7 mile tailback,it’s reportedly Ruth the Uncouth on a water Buffalo going to her “work” that’s causing the problem. 🙂

Peace Always

If Labour in Scotland is autonomous does that mean the campaign buses from Manchester, Liverpool, Newcastle etc will no longer be bringing North young activists with their uniform shoulder bags and ignorance of Scottish politics?

Most Labour branches in Scotland are now “family” affairs with very few activists and those they do have are grouped together for a photo shoot by a compliant media to maintain the illusion.

If you cannot believe in self determination for your nation it is very unlikely that you will be taken seriously on any issue

A Labour Party that continues to support illegal wars, WMD, Force Projection ( Astute class submarines / Aircraft carriers etc) are no longer a party of the people. I know the term Red Tories has been used on a regular basis but for good reason, they are part of the support for the elite class who run the UK. A branch official pretending she has the power to change such New Labour politics is simply being dishonest in order to grab a few votes.

O/T

Scottish Conservative candidate Colin Clak who is standing for election in Inverurie & District seat says:

“This by-election is a straight fight between the SNP and the Scottish Conservatives”

I anticipate this will be the test fight for May 2017.

Neo Facist “Voice of The North” will no doubt be bigging this guy up from now until November the 3rd.

@ Effijy saysat 8:37 am …. ”As mentioned above, it seems that NHS England is hiding the true stats on the number of operations cancelled.” …….

Great post Effijy. We could do with someone like you attending debates, such as the one mentioned by Robert Graham at 2:17 am.

You’d soon sort them out.

Oh! FGS: I am sore sided laughing at today’s Labour Party news.

It was bad enough with the party membership, (and leadership0, going politically in the opposite direction to their parliamentary MPs, MEPs and MSPs. Now the Labour Party employed staff members are demanding they should have their own place on the Labour Party’s, “National Executive Committee”, (the Labour Party’s ruling body).

Considering these are only employees of the Labour Party it must be assumed staff members were given their jobs by Labour Party parliamentarians and not by the paid-up card carrying membership.

The plot sickens – Err! thickens.

OT

I see that Russia and US are to joint chair talks about Syria today, and the UN says they want to get aid lined up again.

So if everyone is convinced it’s Russia killing everyone, they are quick to jump round the table, rather than produce evidence of the Russian murderers.

Everyone in New York, ‘inferred’ it was Russia, not the bold Boris, he accused the Russians. What a fecking diplomat we are blessed with.

If everyone maintains its Russia and Assad, why not withdraw and get proof positive?

The lies and bullshit are heinous.

People need to ask themselves about Iraq and Libya, then answer why the outcome in Syria, and what is actually going on is any different.

The footage coming out of Yemen of children dying of starvation is horrendous, yet you need to dig for information.

The interview of Amal Clooney saying she would happily take part in a war crimes prosecution against Assad, whilst ignoring the UK govt role in selling arms to the Saudis, was very hypocritical. The UN has already asked the UK to stop these sales, which are being used to perpetrate war crimes.

I know I’m ranting, but this behaviour is done in our name, as part of this Union. It will get worse. I predict we will increase the Forces as a job creation scheme. Takes care of employment, uses oil, and builds warmongering alliances, to whom we sell arms, as the second largest supplier in the world.