Wings Over Scotland

Helensburgh

Mischievously exciting.
Expect lots of pics.

I’ll cover Helensburgh Central.

Great initiative. If we manage to get all (or most) of the bases covered, it’ll be fascinating to find out just how many actually take place. Past experience suggests not many.

Rev, I’ll get down to Partick in the morning to have a look see if anything going on.

Can do Dundee at 7am.

I may be in the extreme minority here, but does anyone else get a strange sense of, I don’t know, excitement about seeing someone with a Better Together/UKOK badge? I don’t know, it makes me feel like “hey, they’re invested in the referendum too! Sure, they’re on the other side, but it means they’re interested enough to participate!”

Heck, when I was at parliament and a woman with a BT badge sat next to me, I nearly turned to her to give her a thumbs-up, as if to say “good luck!” Perhaps I can be this confident in the knowledge that I’m absolutely sure of my position, and so being “threatened” or whatever simply doesn’t enter into my mind.

So if I happen to see them out and about today, I might stride over to them, complete with Yes badge, and give them a hearty hello. After all, we’re all part of the most important debate in the history of the country, and even though they’re the opposition, I don’t know, I feel a strange fondness for them.

Not that I have any illusions about their intentions, mind, nor am I naive enough to think I’d be able to change their minds or whatnot, but it’s strange that my reaction upon seeing that wee blue badge is one of glee. Very odd.

I will head over to our station, I’m not wearing one of these UKOK stickers tho.

Also, which day is this for? Whichever day it is, I’ll do my best to scout out Gourock.

Bah there is none in or near Kilmarnock.

And here I was excited for some classy “not so secret lesser whistle blower” work! Now my Trenchcoat and fedora have to wait another week.

link to detectivehoneybear.com

P.S. You should try and get Images to embed in the comments so we can show off more witty responses.

I’ll pay Bathgate a visit.

I can do the afternoon shift in Johnstone. Will take along a few Yes newspapers and leaflets. If anyone else local who can upload photos/videos can make it, so much the better.

I can do Glasgow Queen Street at 4

i’ll check largs in the afternoon. quite looking forward to meeting a no campaigner – be interesting to see how well-informed they are.

Morning or afternoon?

Sorry, afternoon.

I can wander past Glasgow Alexandra Parade 4-5pm. No problem at all. 🙂

I’ll check Oban at evening train time!

Mosstrooper – I have contacted Lewis at Yes Johnstone – we may get a few bodies turning up. Hope you can work a video or phone camera.

Both

anyone else get a strange sense of, I don’t know, excitement about seeing someone with a Better Together/UKOK badge? I don’t know, it makes me feel like “hey, they’re invested in the referendum too!

I don’t know about excitement but yeah a sort of affinity, I know what you mean. Used to see a girl on the train with a UKOK badge. It’s quite brave to wear a badge for either side I think, so yeah respect. Also have respect for anyone who gives up their spare time to work for free towards something, having found out first hand now how hard it is to do, especially after a day at work.

Richard says:
Bad news of some wee s**t thinks this is the way to go

Could also be a provocateur – we’re likely to see a whole load of activity from them in the next few months.

Illy

I can do Waverly am. I’ll scoot round to meet the multitude of BT teams which will be amassed in vast numbers at each entrance

I’ll take a walk down to Barrhead for five!

Ahh! just noticed Johnstone at 7-9 am (note to self– read all lists carefully) Will set alarm for an early rise so strike out.

Barrhead 5-6 ,I literally live opposite the station.

What about a flash mob yes voters

I’ll cover Pitlochry (5pm – 6pm).

Heavy snow forecast tomorrow so should be nice and quiet.

I will do Inverness 7.00-8.00 am. I need to travel in anyway for stuff so it will get me going early.

Scene at BT HQ
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Unionist 1. “Have you seen WOS?”

Unionist 2. “Aye, we need to call the Dail Mail. The Cybernat Army has been mobilised.”

Unionist 1. “We are going to be overrun. I told you you shouldn’t have printed all these leaflets last week.”

Unionist 2. “Do you think we could get that lazy basket McDougall to do Partick?”

Unionist 1 “Good Idea. And we will say half our supporters came down with a virus”

Unionist 2. “What all six of them?”

Unionist 1. “It doesn’t matter old chap. Have you seen what it says on the leaflet?”

Unionist 2. “Aye, if that wee evil pervert reverend gets a hold of one we are in trouble anyway”

Unionist 1. “Maybe best we don’t make ALL the stations, lets go for a few out in the country at the end of the line.

Unionist 2. “Have you ever thought it might just be easier to cross over to the winning side? My Pater won’t like it, might stop the allowance, but it will be much more fun than being a UKOK”

Illy says:
but what if they have someone on the bridge ramps,

Then they’d be on ScotRail property thereby breaking the law. Photo would be useful 🙂 I reckon Princes Street and Market Street are the likeliest exits.

Can’t make it to Waverley but there’s a fair chance I might be able to get to Haymarket, afternoon.

I can do Johnstone and Glasgow Central tomorrow morning.

Re Richard says
Yeah, bad news.
As a counter, I heard that there are 100000 Scottish kids living in poverty with “No” all over them.

I’ll swing by Fort Matilda 4-6.

It occurs to me that if the point of the exercise is to amass info as whether and where BT actually do turn up, it might be counterproductive to be drawing too much attention to ourselves, particularly as we’re kind of announcing where we’ll be – a direct invitation to the DM to whip up yet more “evil Cybernat” shite. Just a thought.

I’m just up the hill from Kelvindale. No guarantee I’ll make it down, but will see how my evening tomorrow pans out (i.e. when I escape from work).

I’ll do Newton 🙂

As for the Hothersall tweet how’s this for a scenario. Find a smashed up car (not hard in Paisley) and scratch YES on it and fake Horror Shock at the evil deeds of the Cabernats.
I know , I just like being a cabernat,

Edward:

Just a thought, if BT have a leafleting ‘team’ t each of the locations, why are they not at them all day, instead of specific times? (this may have been mentioned already so apologies). The above would suggest that they don’t and that they are commuting around using the rail network, like something from the ‘Great Escape’

Nah, all it means is that due to the lack of volunteers they can count on for canvassing, high street stalls etc, they have to restrict their activities to when they can hit a high volume of people in a short timescale with few volunteers.

One person can stand at a station at rush hour and distribute loads of leaflets to commuters, who are more likely to just take the leaflet rather than make a fuss, because they’re in a hurry. This also means that they’re unlikely to have people stopping to ask them questions, which is inconvenient as they not only have to back up their bullshit points, but it also means while they’re discussing it with on person, they’re then not thrusting leaflets into the hands of other people.

Contrast that with Yes groups, who can set up stalls where people are more likely to have a bit of time on their hands and therefore more likely to actually challenge you on the points you’re making. We don’t have to worry about backing up our arguments, because we use facts; and if one person is being held up by an undecided voter, there are plenty of other volunteers to get other people.

@Keir Robinson

I’ll keep a seat warm. I’ll surely be on 2nd cup of coffee by 8am :-))

Stu, if LB is going to do Edinburgh Waverly in the morning I’ll go to Haymarket am instead. Expect to see a phalanx of BT champions there also!!!

@Michael

Lots of people passing at rush hour, highly visible.

“I’m going to do it strictly undercover like”

Same here. I’ll be passing through on my way to the train so will just see if they’re there and try to get a leaflet. If they open a discussion I’ll chat to them politely. Unless it’s a politician I recognise in which case I won’t be able to resist a dirty look.

@Doug Daniel
O/T You were being held up as an example of vile anti-englishness over on the NewStatesmen or was it the Spectator… I forget. Whichever one you post on I guess.

I’ll be at Clarkston station tomorrow at 8.15am

O/T Just watching/listening to the unelected House of Lords debate on Scottish indy referendum.

It’d be funny if they weren’t serious. Within the first couple of minutes former tory Scottish Secretary (1990-1995) Lang trotted out all the old cliches starting with fighting together under one flag for more than 300 years (!) and the Empire…

He continues to tick all the No campaign scarestory boxes, should’ve set up a bingo for this. 😀 I think one of the funniest ones was him saying that independence and then currency union would reduce Scotland into a state of dependency.

Annabel Goldie is due to give her maiden speech in the House of Lords later.

That car pic appears to come from Andrew Skinner, whether or not it’s his car is unclear.

@Michael:
No, I don’t feel any affinity with No campaigners. They are hate-mongers intent on spreading lies and fear.

At the top level of politicos and media, I have no disagreement with any of that.

But a lot of the “foot soldiers” are simply misguided or conned into supporting “No”. Some of them can be persuaded, and some of them are decent people who simply disagree with us, as is their right.

Whatever, they are fellow Scots and we have to live and work alongside them.

I will certainly have a look out at Central tomorrow. The weather forecast for tomorrow is not nice – poor lambs. They will be begging to get into Scotrail premises. I take it we photograph them if they are in the stations so we can can use the weight of evidence should Scotrail try to deny us the same.

Jeremy Vine R2: starts with a intro of usual patronising pish. Dear God, they treat the referendum as if it were a lark.

ha ha – at this rate there will be more wings supporters clutching digital cameras and smartphones at stations than no supporters!

DM Headlines – Cybernat Railway Army organised by Gen Rev Campbell.

I’ll head to Hamilton Central between 7am and 9am. I can see the station from my flat so it would be lazy not to go.

One other thing to bear in mind: this is not an official Yes ‘event’; no-one should be doing this because they are a member of the Yes Scotland, SNP (or Greens, or SSP), I am doing this as someone who wants to make sure that both sides are doing their best to engage the public and are being truthful and honest in their intentions and information.

No-one has ordered me to do this; I do it of my own free will and the desire to see a better Scotland.

Strictly speaking the stations are Network Rail, not ScotRail, property. ScotRail however operates them, which is where its policies on campaigning will come into force. The exceptions are Glasgow Central (high level) and Edinburgh Waverley, which are managed outright by Network Rail.

That would be the public-spirited thing to do.

I am nothing if not public spirited

Awwww, no UKOK love for the inner circle on the Fife line?

I see Waverley’s covered, but I’ll keep an eye out at Dunfermline Town in case they get some last-minute volunteers.

Montrose in the afternoon

If better together do turn up at a station and a tired irate passenger punches one of them in the pus will we Cybernats get the blame?

Insch

I will take my camera Rev but you need to tell me how to upload pictures to your site. Do you have an e-mail address?

Over at the Lords N Lamont telling it how it is from their view …..’we’ll lose influence in the EU and UN Security Council’ if Scotland votes YES.

@Richard.

I wouldn’t put it past the BT mob to stage manage things like that.

Wouldn’t it be good for folks here to hand out leaflets, at the same time as the no shower, saying they’re lying.

@Ericmac – Oooh, lovely. Got a link?

BT are to be applauded for this – it’s murder trying to pin things down to morning or afternoon, let alone hourly slots.

Well done Better Together! Remember to wear double-layered thermals and get that Ready-Brek in you for a nice orangey glow!

I wonder if David Attenburgh will appear with a camera crew,hoping to catch the elusive UKOK on film.By the way,could some of you who have actually seen a real,live UKOK please give me an idea of what to look out for.I wouldn’t want to shiver outside a station for hours and not realise I’d seen one.

If I get into work early enough tomorrow I’ll hack cross-country to Insch for four. No guarantees, but if you see a shady looking character with mental spiky hair come and say ‘hi’!

Just brilliant to see how quickly the stations have been snapped up!