Wings Over Scotland

I wish someone would just just have the balls to say “excuse me, but why the hell should LGBT people get more rights than everyone else?”

Asking that question 100, 50, 20 years ago? Spot on. Now? gtf.

If they weren’t as blunt as me I’d suggest they respond with “what rights do you not have that everyone else has?”

The rights they’re wanting are not equal rights but greater rights and that should just be shut down immediately.

And oh yeah. Piss weak from Forbes.

Except all three candidates oppose “conversion therapy ” link to thenational.scot

Face it, anybody still in the SNP is completely a lost cause

Christ, what a hotel fire this country’s politics now is. What’s the current state of that Hate Crime Bill idiotic madness, anybody any idea? Thanks in advance.

Another half-arsed performance from a mediocre candidate wishing to lead a sh1t-show of a party.

BTW, if you received a communication from ALBA this morning, be sure to drop an email to callum.baird@thenational.scot to make your feelings known.

I never for one minute thought Forbes would make a better FM than Yousaf, in my opinion nothing much will change if any of these two get their arses into Bute House.

Only Ash Regan has a sound and viable plan for independence, only Ash Regan stands up and tells it like it is with regards to the GRRB, if Regan doesn’t win, I think the SNP will be a lost cause for a long time, Alba will be the way forward.

No choice in Scotland,

Do we get to pick from the best of the best,
No, our options is to pick the best of the worst,

Top that with the secondary corruption of when the externally voted FM goes, it again should be down to the people to choose,

But it is done internally, without the people of Scotland holding a vote on who there leader will be.
Them’s Westminster election rules,

Teresa May, Rushi Sunak, and any coalition made after elections.
The system stinks and is corrupt.

Kate Forbes would have made a great fisheries minister.

Because she’s all over the plaice.

“The end justifies the means” in this case Mrs Forbes needs to be very careful how she phrases her answers given her views on social issues.
Kate “isnae daft” and knows the media and all of the woke warlocks are after her blood.

She is the first politician who inspires me with confidence since Jim Sillars was on form.

Instead of pouncing on throwaway lines to keep the wolves from tearing her throat out, we should get behind the only competent politician Scotland has produced in years.

Reagan the only alternative at this point is a lightweight who lacks competence and is grandstanding on independence though she must know that it will take years to clean up the vomit which was the Sturgeon SNP.

Sorry that this is off topic Stu.

I noticed the National has banned Alex Salmond & Alba party. Would love to see a full frontal attack against the National newspaper since you have a far larger readership base than the National.

What they’ve done is unacceptable mate.

I think I must be watching a different video from the Rev Stu! she comes out clearly against conversion therapy (at the end – perhaps you didn’t stay to watch that?). if the first part of what she says, that she is concerned with hate crimes and wants to tackle them, is what has offended you, you need to take a good look at yourself

Jeremy Wickins says:
9 March, 2023 at 12:31 pm

“Perhaps Kate Forbes is happy about that because it means they definitely won’t need abortions, they won’t have any children out of wedlock and it’ll mean their marriages officially aren’t gay.

We don’t know.” I think all those suggestions are worthy of consideration. Transing LGB and non-conforming children and young people plays into so much autocratic religious “thinking” – we only have to look at Iran.

Would the same not apply to any other religious person who supports the GRRB.

I hadn’t thought of the religious aspect to the GRRB. I did wonder why so many wanted people turned into eunuchs/female eunuchs and decided it was to satisfy yet another fetish.

Whilst I note this blog’s preference, you might have to cut your cloth according to the reality emerging.

Regan is not the general public’s choice – they don’t think she’s the full shilling – so however purist and driven she is, however much you want to believe in the promise she seems to offer, the electorate are unlikely to support whatever she does. So it won’t happen, even if she has a plan, you still need wide popular confidence and support.

Yousaf is only popular with SNP members and minority groups who depend on government patronage in return for loud support. And when I say popular, not very. But the powers that be want to arrange it so he wins. Well, you know what Yousaf will deliver.

Forbes seems to be the general population’s preference. Now I don’t care that much for any of them. But if I wanted to pick a tool for a job in a modern democracy, I’d pick the one that the general population at least start out liking. It’s the only tool likely to work.

Think Boris and Brexit. A hideous oaf, but he was the hideous oaf that people were prepared to take a punt on and the Conservatives cynically used him for a purpose.

The fundamentalist Christian who looks forward to working with the fanatical wokeists. It’s hilarious.

For a day at least Humza can’t be singled out as the ridiculous candidate.

link to youtube.com

Erin Lux Medical Humanities researcher…that’s all you need to know right there. Essentially, this means studying how medical disciplines are represented or interpreted which means more Foucault, Derrida, Lacan etc.
Constantly surprised by how many pushy North Americans are having a high old time in the Scottish independence movement. Anyone know of any person prominent in the Indy movement from the most interesting country in North America i.e. Mexico.
(by the way if Salma Hayek wants to get involved in distributing leaflets in Greenock I would be more than happy to provide security…)

“BTW, if you received a communication from ALBA this morning, be sure to drop an email to callum.baird@thenational.scot to make your feelings known”

I will not give The National even another second of my time.

The National is no longer a newspaper, never mind a pro-independence one. It is the SNP’s (Nicola Sturgeon’s) propaganda mouthpiece.

Their readership numbers must be appallingly low because the number of adverts they have is so large that sometimes you can hardly read anything. They are also constantly offering discounts if you take a subscription, so they must be desperate to increase readership.

At a time when Sturgeon, her version of the SNP and the Greens are failing pro-independence supporters and failing miserably, banning Alba and therefore indirectly pushing away Alba voters from their readership is not something that makes business sense at all. It is therefore quite possible this has been an executive decision from above.

Well, they can have it. I will simply delete the National link from my bookmarks and be done with it. I will no lose any sleep from being deprived of their usual pro Green Party, pro GRR and pro-Sturgeon crap.

Incidentally, I see they are also trying to pull a fast one with their readership. One of their headings claims:

“Subscribe to the National for ONE POUND for three months and help us win indyref2”

Their beloved Sturgeon in cahoots with the lady advocate ensured indyref2 will never take place in the foreseeable future, certainly not in the next 3 months, so if this headline does not come across as blatant lying and misleading, what does.

Personally, I think Alba will get far more exposure if they reach an agreement with the current pro-independence bloggers, so they can send their columns to them. The National obviously is desperate to go down with the rest of the unionist papers, so Alba should be happy to assist them in their quest to disappear by denying them the income from their adverts and the clicks of Alba supporters.

The readership of the pro-independence bloggers combined amounts to several times the readership of the National. Judging by the comments in the National newspapers, most of the readership are GRR fanatics and apparatchicks from the Greens and the SNP, anyway, so I do not think it is a great loss for Alba. In fact, I would wear it as a badge of honour and would be sure to mention it at every opportunity as an example of the incestuous relationship between unionism (and I considedr the Greens and Sturgeon’s SNP unionist parties) and the press.

Has “Beth” had a firm word with her?

None of the candidates are fit to be FM. All of them are paper thin in terms of policy. None will solve any of the social or economic problems we face in Scotland. None of them will create a more equal society and none of them will push us nearer to independence and I think we’ve got to come to the conclusion there’s not a chance of independence happening while the SNP are in the state they’re in right now.

Nor is Alba a solution. They’re seen as toxic by too many people, as are the Greens who’s embrace of Queer Theory and the homophobia and misogyny contained in that has alienated too many people. As has been said by the likes of Stu, there’s no way independence is going to happen when driven by middle class types who really don’t want independence anyhow.

Scotland is in a mess. The SNP are inept and corrupt as much as the opposition parties are, while at the same time they’ve been quietly imposing an increasingly neoliberal agenda covered by the odd socially liberal policy to act as smokescreen. Anyone still supporting the SNP and calling themselves ‘progressive’ is just a liar.

To think we’ve wasted chance after chance of pushing hard for independence because Sturgeon and her acolytes clearly don’t want to lose power, and independence means the SNP is over as a major force. Maybe I’m wrong, maybe Regan or Forbes get elected and come out swinging but nah, not going to happen. We’re going to get Yousaf, it’ll be a bloody disaster and the core of the SNP will tell you it’s wonderful while the country falls apart.

Debatable Lands @1.42 said: “Forbes seems to be the general population’s preference. Now I don’t care that much for any of them. But if I wanted to pick a tool for a job in a modern democracy, I’d pick the one that the general population at least start out liking. It’s the only tool likely to work.”
This is why, as a Unionist, I think she is the danger. People like her (even in England). Sure, she’s as incompetent as all the others but what do you expect of the SNP? But not only is she liked, she probably chimes with the real views and opinions of most of the sensible adult electorate, not only in Scotland but in the majority population of the UK. Fortunately she is unlikely to get past the tiny SNP only electorate. But if she can reach the world beyond the SNP it would likely be a different matter.

Without NS and AS the SNP are totally lost.
Telegraph heading.

Whom are the handlers of the Snp.
Whom is delighting in the collapse of what was once a good political party in Scotland.

Not just the Telegraph we can be sure of that,

But on one thing I do with them agree on, the infiltrated Snp that have gone rogue in Scotland, they have to go, as long as they work against Scotlands people and favour the Union and Wars.

It has been rather easy to target a specific political party once in office, we can see this with the many set ups that have happened to the SNP since 2014,
The handlers have encompassed and infiltrated many issues into Scotland with political manouvres that Scots would not normally consider in their Old fashioned values of Country and small population,

It would indeed be the greatest gift to these handlers of the SNP, to then trap the independence grassroots movement under one banner, as this is a easier target to control, manipulate and accuse with set up court cases.

One of the independence grassroots movements advantages is that it cannot be controlled as one single target, although this was not for the want of trying by SNP handlers when they tried laying down the rules for people and parties to follow not so long ago,
The advantage that succeeds for the grassroots is not to become incapsulated as a single umbrella group like the SNP,
And to out smart the encouragement we daily receive to join all groups by the handlers and the Snp to one group, with new rules for us to abide by.

Independence of Scotland as a Country relies on people staying attuned to the shenangens of the state of government behind the Snp or the next party selected to govern Scotland by goverment from internal sources funded by whom knows.
We must be aware of why certain people are now pushing for the independence movement to be encapsulated under new governance rules,
Obviously this message will be protested from those with aims and reason to capture all of Scotland in this way.

Politics and parties rounded up under foreign rules through infiltration for the future of Scotland.

It has been a interesting last year or two,

An update on the Sturgeon Fanzine the National banning Alba columnists and banning Alex Salmond articles from the paper.

I advise everyone who hasn’t already dropped this Sturgeon loving shitrag to boycott it immediately.

link to yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com

“That is precisely Ash’s policy”

And that is wonderful and why I think Ms Reagan is the only and last chance the SNP has left to survive as a pro-independence party.

But there are three important practical things here:

1. for her to succeed in implementing it, the entire party has to accept it as policy, and that includes all the troughers and gravy train riders both in Holryood and Westminster.

For that policy to work, the MPs have to be prepared to exit Westminster at very short notice. Do you see the likes of the pompous Alyn Smith, Blackford, Black, Blackman, Oswald, Nicholson, McDonald etc ungluing themselves from the comforts of Westminster’s seats voluntarily?
I see them resisting and fighting against it with all they got.

Unless Ms REagan can substitute them all in time to the next election by real anti-union ones, she is going to have one hell of a fight on her hands to get them to comply.

2. Every time we see our current MSPs we remember how they betrayed women and children in the altar of perverts maskerading as green policies. In my case, every time I think in my MSP I see the picture of him with that Beth holding a placcard. To cleanse the image of the party, each and every one of those who voted for the GRR must go. This will be difficult to achieve

3. pro-independence voters have been mercilessly tortured for 9 years with STurgeon’s continuous dangling of carrots only to then removing them almost immediately, backtracking on her words and stabbing us in the back at every possible turn.

For many, and I certainly include myself here, trust in the SNP is gone. Personally, I am quite hurt MPs and MSPs indulged Sturgeon for 8 years in her destruction of the party and her sabotaging of the yes movement yet did nothing to challenge her or to stop her. Even now, Forbes has the brass neck of criticising Sturgeon in her approach to delivering independence but then off she goes shamelessly on to offer similar, if not the exact same.

I do no longer trust politicians’ words. I want to see what they promise written in black and white as the manifesto and in the party’s constitution so there is written proof which can be dangled on their noses should they choose to backtrack from it.

I appreciate Ms Reagan has shown a hell of a lot of courage resigning from her ministerial post and going against the leadership in the matter of GRR. It is noted.
She has all my respect and admiration for having stood up to the disgraceful Sturgeon and the corruption Sturgeon represents and sits on. It is not something that can be said for Forbes. She hid behind her baby to avoid comfrontation.

But Ms Reagan has an entire party of troughers and plants to bring to shape and they will offer some hell of a resistance. This may mean her policy may be “tonned down” or even changed over time to bring the whole party as one.

Unfortunately, the biggest damage Sturgeon has done to the SNP voter, at least from my perspective, is the bulldozing of our trust in politicians. It is regrettable that the first SNP person in 9 years who is willing to continue what Mr Salmond started has to undergo intense scrutiny and suffer the devastating consequences of the damage STurgeon has inflicted on the party’s trust. But that is the reality of Sturgeon’s rotten legacy.

Anyone have the background on Forbes’ assertion that her family founded SNP in the Highlands “the farm owning uncles”?

Prediction: No matter who is installed as leader it’s game over for the SNP.

1. Forbes wins the wokeratti and greens create merry fuck split will mean no SNP government game over.

2. Reagan wins ( see point 1)

3.Useless wins SNP enter purgatorial state til next GE (he will never win a GE for SNP.

I’m all for another Scottish GE, I am pretty sure HR would take on a whole new look for the better.

Is Kate Forbes talking about hate speech generally or the dreadful and deeply flawed SNP Hate Crime Bill? Is she talking about ACTUAL conversion therapy here or the proposed SNP legislation (which amounts to a manically-Pro-Conversion-with-no-way-back bill)? I am not actually sure from the clip.

Everyone probably would agree that ACTUAL hate speech and ACTUAL conversion therapy are bad. So is Forbes just agreeing with that… or is she specifically backing the SNP’s Hate bill and the completely misnamed Conversion ‘ban’ insanity? Was that clear from watching more?

As Wings summarizes very well, under this incredibly odious conversion ‘ban’ plan the only solution for a confused young person is ‘trans’, is conversion, and anyone who says otherwise is literally criminalized.

It looks like in an effort to appeal to as broad a base as possible Kate Forbes is in real danger of becoming mealy-mouthed and Humza-like. You can’t run with the Fox AND hunt with Hounds Kate.

I’d taken it as a given Forbes (with her beliefs) would see what an abomination this proposed Conversion promotion legislation is. (I am not calling it a fucking ‘ban’ when it amounts to the opposite and then some…) But maybe that assumption was false.

Maybe her experiences talking about gay marriage have made her gun-shy and scared to say now what she really believes… which would be very sad if true, watching her slowly morph into a Humza clone in front of our eyes… reminds me of that film “Invasion of the Body Snatchers”.

Kate Forbes needs to step off the fence and start clarifying these things otherwise you have to start assuming the worst, given the lack of evidence for anything else.

If Forbes really is for the proposed SNP Conversion bill as it stands then she is as mental as the rest of the woke fudz in the SNP. Game over for me too.

But is she?

Stuart MacKay @1:11pm,
The SS Independence has been on the rocks for 8 years.
Yousaf and Forbes will continue asking the rocks for help while Regan wants a tugboat and a salvage crew.
It’s bewildering that any pro independence SNP members can’t see this or perhaps there just isn’t that many in the party anymore.

“Whom are the handlers of the Snp.
Whom is delighting in the collapse of what was once a good political party in Scotland”.

Sorry to a pedant James – but it is just too annoying for me.

Whom is used instead of ‘who’ as the object of a verb or preposition.

e.g.’To whom should I give this cake?”

In each case above “Whom” should be “Who” – since they are not objects of the sentences in which they are used.

With these grammatical skills you could get a job with the National!

Otherwise I have a great deal of time for much of your commentary.

“ Wings has backed Ash Regan in the SNP leadership election”
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I have backed Ash to the tune of £20 at 25/1 against. But her odds on the a Betfair exchange have scarcely moved in the past two weeks.

The unfortunate truth is: she has NO chance.

So, Wings, please advise readers with a vote which alternative is the lesser evil: Yousaf or Forbes?

Bad as the above intervention of Erin Lux is, I’m afraid her professional profile reveals much worse and potential to do substantial harm to Scotland’s children.

Apparently, she is an ‘academic’ at something called:

Centre For Excellence For Children’S Care And Protection at Strathclyde University.

Below is the title of just one of her outputs (no doubt funded by the Scottish Government)

Development of Children’s Care Services in Scotland: Executive Summary
Andrew Kendrick, Erin Lux, Sharon McGregor, Richard Withington

Centre For Excellence For Children’S Care And ProtectionInstitute For Inspiring Children’s Futures
Research output: Book/Report › Commissioned report

link to pureportal.strath.ac.uk

Apparently the “Centre for Children’s Care and Protection” is not some kind of post-modern ironic title!

Who says Canadian academics have no sense of humour!

Kind of fed up with the ongoing shallow cult of personality and wish there was a bit less focus on the leadership candidates’ personal views, and a bit more in depth analysis on what groups and / or advisors they are aligned with to help shape and develop policies that would better serve our country’s needs.
That’s because there is just no way one individual can be an expert in all matters such as economics, health, energy, farming, transport, etc.
Having a new leader in place is one thing, but whom they listen to for advice and are influenced by is a major factor in how they will perform.
We’ve seen far too much bad policy attempted to be rolled which was borne from outwith our own borders, rather than formed from the democratically expressed will and requirements of our own Scottish society.

I know Ash Regan has worked for Common Weal in the past, and Robin McAlpine is someone that she seems to respect and listen to. But what of Forbes and Yousaf, are they just going to be ongoing Charlotte Street Partners aligned puppets.

After reading the last article highlighting the wit of some of the members who are voting and supposedly deciding the new Party leader, they didn’t come across as particularly with it so it raises the question of whether they having much of a clue about other stuff like the ScotWind auctions, or implementation of Freeports. Because if those voting members were more alert to the reality of how these matters will impact Scottish society, you’d think they would have a bit more conviction and determination to choose a leader who would form a team to better serve Scotland’s needs over that of the sellouts we currently have.

So aye, a leader is a focal point, but please let’s have a much needed different type of leadership skillset compared to what we had with the outgoing self promoting she / her selfie yin.

Garavelli Princip – thumbs up!

Who did what to whom?

Rev Stu,
Slightly ot
In the Scottish Daily Fail today lovely pic centre of pages 8 / 9 of a SNP male inappropriately having cuddles with a he/she they it??
Surely grounds for a Police investigation and charges of inappropriate behaviour??
Oh That’s only if you are a former FM who could be a threat to the establishment.
Not a chosen SNP stooge yoonionist AKA Humza
Karma is such a IT!

K Forbes, if she wins, might come in useful for pressure-hosing the woke and politically-backward to the edges or even right out of the party, after that, in terms of pursuing ambitious, radical policies, I doubt if a person of her background and education has it in them to do so. As for her over-lauded competence: how long’s that she’s been at finance now?

@Anton Decadent

Keep driving it home (re. bigger picture).

Tbh with all the pro Humza hostage videos all over twitter, I’m glad the campaign is weeks rather than months.

If he wins, the SNP is dead in the water.
So much wasted time and energy.
The only good thing about Lab increasing in popularity, the troughers will jump ship and join them.

The SNP must never again allow careerists to take all the posts.

O/T.

“Constitutionally and in law Ash Regan is correct. No referendum is needed. There was not a referendum to create the British political union parliament, nor a convention. All that is needed as follows;

(1) Withdraw all (enough for a majority vote) Scottish MP’s from Westminster (and lords).
(2) Reconvene Holyrood as a Scottish parliament not a devolved parliament or EU assembly and simple vote on Voiding the Act of Union with England, if majority go to step 3.
(3) As Holyrood parliament is a court in its own right, VOID (not repeal) the Act of union with England.
(4) Inform the UN of Scotland’s Independence and sovereign status as per UN primary international human right – Self Determination.

The political union with England has now ended.

Part 2 is optional and needs a constitutional convention – remove the monarchy and establish a republic.”

Courtesy of Peter A. Bell.

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Hi PhilM,

You raise an interesting point when you mention the large number of pushy North American’s that are having a high old time over here in the Scottish Independence movement.

Phil, I think you have hit on a very important point.

I have no doubt, after Stuart Campbell wrote his masterpiece on Pickle_Bee and her “7 inch surprise” in her knickers, along with the horrendous 5hitstorm of deviancy infesting the NuSNP, the word is slowly coming out. These deviants from the States and Canada are going to push too hard, too far to the point they get another bums-rush and turfed out of Scotland, New Zealand, Holland and the rest of small countries infested by these parasitic YankWnks.

Back on topic, is it just me, or has anyone else tried to compare any of the triumvirate of FM job applicant losers, to the true, genuine, towering statesman who was the greatest First Minister Scotland ever had: The Rt. Hon. Alex Salmond?

IMHO the best result is for hapless joke, the minister for wrecking departments, Humza Yousaf to be “elected” First Minister” for a few months so his mum and dad can boast aboot their doctor son, Sir Humza, Lord Yousaf becoming king of Scotland.

Then the NuSNP will be VOTED OUT OF OFFICE FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

That is probably why yellow-spine Callum Baird is banning the Alba Party.

For those in the NuSNP with the memory of a Twitter goldfish, the OldSNP had around 5 MPs in Westminster (plus or minus a handful) for 30 years.

Then we had that ALL TOO BRIEF 56 SNP MP MOMENT.

Just before we realised the troughers we sent to Westminster to SETTLE-UP went on to be addicted to short money, personal pensions and riches of that lifestyle and to SETTLE DOWN in London.

With Clapstain TransBeth and it’s ilk influencing all three candidates for the FM job, it is only a matter of time before the whole NuSNP implodes forever.

Mia,

This is the issue now for the SNP party,
The voters are fully aware that manipulation and infiltration is the new politics in Scotland, not only in the SNP party, but within the Scottish government itself.

The problem for people in Scotland, knowing this is taking place in the devolved Scottish parliament,
Where do we go from the corruption of infiltrated devolved government and its political parties?
Even if we vote, GCHR decide which of our votes go through as valid with the aid of the SNP.
This overseeing of selecting our votes, can only be impoverished further by postal votes and digital voting from afar.

Republicofscotland says:

“I never for one minute thought Forbes would make a better FM than Yousaf, in my opinion nothing much will change if any of these two get their arses into Bute House.

Only Ash Regan has a sound and viable plan for independence, only Ash Regan stands up and tells it like it is with regards to the GRRB, if Regan doesn’t win, I think the SNP will be a lost cause for a long time, Alba will be the way forward.”

100% agree with all of that. It is simple common sense and If you understand the government accounts and economics Forbes would get 0/10.

Forbes would simply hand us off to Brussels and because we have a PR parliament we would be trapped forever. Under their neo colonial treaties and spending and debt rules.

Anyone who thinks that is independence are completely bonkers or brainwashed within an inch of their lives.

Garavelli princep.

There was no need to apologise, but thank you any way for your kind considerations on this topic, much appreciated.

It is a constant battle to try re-phrase every word in every line in conversation to make it make sense for others to read that are not dyslexic,
in those attempts often whole sentences alter from their original context, which in turn changes where abbreviation,s, full stops, commers, capital letters etc become misplaced, along and within with the sentence.
By the third or forth attempt I am just as confused as those whom suffer reading it.

We bang on about modern changes to education, by that I mean ( the three R’s ) but some things are for the better, when we realise how many children used to be treated with cruelty and violence within the class room and demeaned in front of the class, because of ignorance of the educator, not the child.

However it goes further than knowing your ABCs,
I am quite badly colour blind, and again used to be sent to the headmasters to get the strap or cane or stood in a corridor for colouring in the wrong colours on the school class room mural or for the wrong colours on the geography map.
Boys were recognised as having colour blindness in those days, but it was still a new phenomenom to recognise girls or women as also having the ability to be colour blind.

So as I spent most of my educational life outside the Class room getting thrashed, or abandoned in a corridor it is wonder I am able to communicate at all,

My sister and niece are both qualified and now help children in the education system for dyslexia and other learning difficulties.

That is why I do not give up on Scotland being independent as a Country, we can and must do better for our children and grandchildren,
I keep going against all the odds.

We must not give up on ourselves, our children’s safety, women’s safe spaces, a better fairer legal system, a good education, a brighter future in Scotland for all mankind.

Do not give up, we can make the change thats needed,

@Garavelli Princip says:9 March, 2023 at 5:02 pm

I used to work in education

Yeah. Right.

Actually – I had grammar literally belted into me

Really? Did you not have the use of pointless and unnecessary words such as “actually” and “literally” belted out of you, then?

How and Why are Scots, REAL SCOTS , INDIGENOUS SCOTS having to suffer the imposition of these lunatic policies and perversions being forcibly pushed upon an electorate that has been proven to show huge opposition to this deviant behaviour

Is Tranada and America exporting all the super woke evangelists to Scotland, HTAF have they managed to GAIN so much power and authority over NORMAL PEOPLE, is this a direct result of kindness and empathy towards others or has WHEESHT for INDY been taken over by WHEESHT FOR TRANS or WHEESHT for LGBTQ+

For such a miniscule part of the population to hold such POWER over the politicians , governments , political parties, our police forces , our judicial system ,judges and lawyers ,the establishment, is incredulous, how has it gotten so far , and when you have a politician vying and fighting for the leadership of not only a political party but the ESTEEMED LEADERSHIP of our country Scotland OPENLY and publicly not only CAVING IN to unspoken demands she is blatantly illustrating that her integrity and beliefs are FOR SALE, the only question now is the PRICE

I look forward to the total destruction and annihilation of the NUSNP, IMO ALBA had better become more aggressive and honest in pointing out this POISON to the electorate or the unionists will capitalise on it

@Gordon Gekko says:9 March, 2023 at 5:44 pm

Forbes would simply hand us off to Brussels

That’s a good point, and may even be true.

I have been intrigued at the lack of interest in the three candidate’s views on the EU. I am assuming that the Continuity Incompetence candidate agrees with SNP Constitution Secretary Angus Robertson, who stated in January that any vote for Indy will automatically be a vote to join the EU, and thus no further democratic mandate will be needed.

So that just leaves Regan. Is she too assuming that Indy will simply be the transfer of control from London to Brussels? A bigger trough to get the snouts into? Better expenses and pensions but still the familiar and comfortable insulation from consequences that comes when others are calling the shots?

Surely I can’t be the only one who wants to know.

What Yousaf and Forbes are offering ( The EU uber alles brigade ) is nothing new. It’s been around for hundreds of years.

link to moneyontheleft.org

The problem is the majority of Scots are hypnotised by it. Potty trained from the age of 5 in education camps to accept it.

Ash is the only hope for offering something different to TINA. Thatcher’s “there is no alternative.”

Matt says:

““Face it, anybody still in the SNP is completely a lost cause”

Sad but true. If only…………”

That’s a baseless, sweeping assumption. I’m still in as my MP is Joanna Cherry and I don’t want her to be deselected, she’s a damned fine MP. A bonus is that I now get to vote for Ash in the leadership election, so I can actually help get Youseless dumped.

I don’t vote SNP for Holyrood and I joined Alba (yes I know that can get me kicked out of the SNP) as that’s where my heart lies.

So please don’t tar all SNP members with the same brush.

JGedd says:
9 March, 2023 at 3:04 pm

I never did reckon Kate Forbes was the right choice for leader of the SNP. Ash Regan is the only one of the three that I would even consider voting for – only not in the SNP.

I agree with that. Ash Regan is in the wrong party.

John Main says:

@Gordon Gekko says:9 March, 2023 at 5:44 pm

It needs to be brought up in the Hustings that’s for sure. So we all know where we stand.

Forbes spends more time in Brussels than visiting her family. Getting her orders before she sets her Scottish budgets To meet the EU austerity criteria so that you can join.

Privatising and asset stripping anything that isn’t nailed down to pass the ECJ court rulings on competition and free market tooth fairy rules. To hand over everything to the rent seekers from which to extract rent.

The Skye Bridge economic model. Whenever we get a tax cut or a pay rise the rent seekers will just rig the prices between themselves and take all of it. Any increase in our disposable income will simply be transferred to them. As they work out how much they can take off us when we get a tax cut or a pay rise.

Like walking down the high street in the 80’s with Burton, Top shop, Dorothy perkins, Top man and radio rental all owned by the same monopoly Consortium. An illusion of choice and competition say on a perch from which to charge us what they like.

During covid if you were paying attention these rent seekers were screaming for handouts. As high streets were empty. You saw what consortiums owned what on our high streets.

March, 2023 at 1:27 pm
“In the event of Ash Regan becoming leader will you vote for the SNP in the next election?”

It depends:

a. on the manifesto
I want to see an explicit and unchallengeable commitment that a win in that (any) election is a mandate to end the union within a reasonable time frame (months, not years) with no caveats or small print. I will not fall for a mandate to ask permission to anybody, but a mandate to immediately withdraw Scotland’s MPs from Westminter, to communicate to the crown and England the Treaty of Union is going to be repealed and to initiate proceedings with the UN for arbitration to dissolve the treaty of union in anticipation of the crown’s and England’s refusal to cooperate. I will not fall for any wishy-washy referendum/permission/procrastination crap.

b. on whom I would be endorsing with my vote.
I will not endorse ever again neither my current MP or MSP. Both are troughers who did nothing to progress independence and did nothing to curtail the abuse inflicted by Sturgeon. One of them even voted to endorse paedophiles, perverts and rapists against the rights and safety of women and children. Ms Reagan would have to completely revamp the list of candidates and select credible anti-union and anti perverts/rapists/paedophile ones instead.

c. Available alternatives
if there is any other more credible anti-union party with a candidate in my ward they will have preference over the SNP. At this moment in time, I am of the opinion the SNP is totally compromised, totally infiltrated and beyond redemption, therefore a vote for the SNP is a wasted vote which will be used to endorse the union, perverts, paedophiles and rapists, and more squandering of Scotland’s resources.

Therefore if there is an Alba/ISP candidate on a similar manifesto to my ideal one they will get preference to my vote before the SNP. In my eyes the SNP is tinted by association – hundreds of MPs + MSPs simply sat and watch for 8 years while STurgeon butchered the party, Scotland’s sovereign rights and assets and did nothing to stop her.

Rev. Stuart Campbell says:
9 March, 2023 at 1:31 pm
“I want to see an explicit and unchallengeable commitment that a win in that (any) election is a mandate to end the union within a reasonable time frame (months, not years) with no caveats or small print. I will not fall for a mandate to ask permission to anybody, but a mandate to immediately withdraw Scotland’s MPs from Westminter, to communicate to the crown and England the Treaty of Union is going to be repealed and to initiate proceedings with the UN for arbitration to dissolve the treaty of union”

That is precisely Ash’s policy.

This will never happen, because it is illegal. Westminster would disregard it, or bring a case at ECHR. The UN would never stray into such a shitstorm, because it has no remit, wouldn’t or couldn’t enforce illegality, and recognises that to try to do so would be indefensible and precedent setting. Do you think the EU would support a presumptive applicant who demonstrates a complete contempt for the rule of law? Mia, the original poster, is unhinged, and Regan too, if this is her idea of cementing Scotland ‘s future status as a nation with whom others could do business. Grow up.

Republicofscotland @ 4:48 pm

“Constitutionally and in law Ash Regan is correct. No referendum is needed.”

All it takes is a wee bit courage. Ash Regan is rightly seeking to rectify the SNP’s deceit, whilst Yousaf and Forbes continue that deceit:

In 2019 81 per cent of Scotland’s elected MP’s claimed to support independence, compared with just 61 per cent who voted to pass the Act of Union on 16th January 1707. But they took their seats in Westminster. In 2015 the SNP won 56 of Scotland’s 59 seats (95 per cent) yet these supposed Scottish nationalists also turned up at Westminster, preferring to give their continued consent to the UK union rather than exercising and asserting Scottish sovereignty.

link to yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com

Lee Floyd:

“Do you think the EU would support a presumptive applicant who demonstrates a complete contempt for the rule of law?”

Of course it has down it a million times already in its history.

“Do you think the EU would support a presumptive applicant who demonstrates a complete contempt of the American rules based order ?”

History helps to answer that question.

link to lrb.co.uk

@Garavelli Princip says:9 March, 2023 at 6:52 pm

Soz, I must be getting you confused with the other Garavelli Princip on here.

The one who, just 2 days ago, posted an ungrammatical, lazy and abusive insult.

Pity you missed his/her post. You could have used your PhD, your stylistic effects and your scientific knowledge to make him/her feel really small and sorry.

Torn him/her a new one in fact.

Oh well, maybes next time, eh?

Ash is our only hope along with Alba.

Stu has backed the right runner and rider.

Why ?

Why is Stu right again ?

I could give you a 100 examples but under Yousef or Forbes this is EXACTLY what happens. I mean no ifs, buts or maybe ‘s.

This is Scotland’s future if we get what THEY call independence. I could have used any EU country but decided on Portugal to show what Our future would look like.

Portugal demonstrates the myopia of the Eurozone’s fiscal rules.

link to billmitchell.org

The flexibility experiment in Portugal has failed

link to billmitchell.org

That’s what happens to us under Forbes and Yousef. No doubt about it. It is their laws.

It is a wonder Erin didn’t go ballistic when JF said I couldn’t tell if your were a man or a woman! LOL

I watched the Ch.4 debate – a poor show.

All three candidates put Sturgeon ahead of Wee Eck as best First Minister. That should immediately disqualify them.

Glas I’m not in the SNP – that’s a very poor field – I would vote: None of the Above.

ASH slow down when talking. Think and calm@ down 19.59 please…..

@Lee Floyd says:9 March, 2023 at 6:48 pm

Mia, the original poster, is unhinged, and Regan too, if this is her idea of cementing Scotland ‘s future status as a nation with whom others could do business

I disagree.

If Regan becomes SNP leader, and maybes FM …

If she announces, and her party backs her, that the next election will be a plebiscite on Indy …

If other Indy parties agree, so all are on the same page and working together …

If the intention is trumpeted from the rooftops beforehand, so that every Scottish voter, every political party, and every national and international observer is crystal clear on what a pro-Indy vote will mean …

If the threshold for victory is unambiguous; not 50% seats plus one, but 50% of the votes plus one …

If (the big if) the threshold is met …

Then it could work. Scots, clearly knowing what their votes meant, will have just voted for Indy. An undeniable fact, if it happens.

Its a long shot, and a long chain of ‘if’s. But what other option is there? The slow, gradual wooing of us Scots voters by means of quiet competence and responsible governance, so that the soft no’s lost all fear of Indy, AKA the boiling frog approach, didn’t work. Sturgeon, her hand-picked incompetents, and her deranged supporters put paid to that.

Waiting for WM permission won’t work.

Regan is Indy’s last chance, probably for a decade.

Wouldn’t a smart thing to do in Forbes’ position be to say that she supports the bill against conversion therapy and then alter the bill at a later date to make sure that it lives up to the name? Isn’t it possible that’s what she’s doing? I still hope Forbes wins rather than Yousaf

Lorna Campbell says

‘I burst out laughing this morning when I read that Keith Brown wants to introduce five – yes, FIVE – new pieces of legislation to combat misogyny. The SNP is drowning us in swathes of legislation, most of it dead duck material’

During FMQ’s today, Ross and Sturgeon and their teams engaged in hilarious banter over the hustings, all smartly dressed in their finery, warm, well fed, and dealing with the most important issue of the day: scoring points off each other.

I wonder if any of them know the cost of milk, butter, potatoes, mince, beans or soup, dog food, a loaf of bread, an apple, cooking oil, or pasta.
I wonder if they know how long a tenner in the electric meter will last in today’s freezing temperatures. I wonder if any of them give it a moment’s thought to families suffering abject poverty, huddled together under coats and blankets in 21st century Scotland.

But why worry when you are being paid a small fortune for turning up for ‘work’ just to have a good laugh and turn out malarkey legislation.

Funniest line I’ve ever seen in any debate was the opening line out of Kate Forbes’ mouth as she tried to u-turn on the attacks she made against Humza and Sturgeon on the STV debate!!

Absolutely classic, haven’t laughed so much in ages!!!

I watched both the STV and this evening’s Channel 4 debates.
Was even less impressed with Humza constantly talking over everyone, but noted he got huffy, when anyone tried to counter his points! And as others have noted, when asked how he would get Independence, when London keeps saying “No” he just reiterated his stuff about building support.
He didn’t say why he thought his wait forever approach would be any better than the Ash Regan one.
The sad fact is, Nicola Sturgeon had the mandates, and had the support, but refused to do anything with it.
She allowed folks to think she had this wizzo plan, and despite warnings from a good few, too many SNP folks still went along with it, and now, now, we have next to nothing. In fact it is absolutely nothing to show for all that goodwill and all those votes.
Westminster used to accept that a majority vote for Independence, or just a majority of pro Independence MPs was enough for Independence.
But it was SNP itself that changed its policy, and London has now used that against Scotland.
But if/ when the former policy is restored, there is nothing London can do to stop Scotland being Independent.
It might try, but if we have politicians with the determination, which alas, the present First Minister never, ever had, then we do become Independent.
We will just have to wait and see if Independence is still important enough for most SNP members, however.
But we also notice The NATIONAL newspaper has recently adopted a strident anti ALBA policy of late, and is openly flogging Yousaf.
We hope SNP members don’t let that approach from that publication sway them too much.

Lee Floyd says “I want to see an explicit and unchallengeable commitment that a win in that (any) election is a mandate to end the union within a reasonable time frame (months, not years) with no caveats or small print. I will not fall for a mandate to ask permission to anybody, but a mandate to immediately withdraw Scotland’s MPs from Westminster, to communicate to the crown and England the Treaty of Union is going to be repealed and to initiate proceedings with the UN for arbitration to dissolve the treaty of union”

That is precisely Ash’s policy.

This will never happen, because it is illegal. Westminster would disregard it, or bring a case at ECHR. The UN would never stray into such a shitstorm, because it has no remit, wouldn’t or couldn’t enforce illegality, and recognises that to try to do so would be indefensible and precedent setting. Do you think the EU would support a presumptive applicant who demonstrates a complete contempt for the rule of law? Mia, the original poster, is unhinged, and Regan too, if this is her idea of cementing Scotland ‘s future status as a nation with whom others could do business. Grow up.

I agree completely with your point Mr Floyd. I find it strange that someone like Mr Campbell who has invested much time and effort exposing the Sturgeon regime to great effect, should be unaware of the consequences should Ms Regan attempt such a hare brained scheme.

After watching C4news tonight you have to be deaf dump and blind to still believe Independence is coming anytime soon.

The opinion polls from the SNP membership putting Kate/Humza in the lead no longer consider Independence as a priority, unbelievable I’m lost for words.

I really do see that if Forbes and Humza is elected as leader, the SNP will be run out of Scotland. The SNP will just die as a political party and to be honest I hope the party does, if it wasn’t for Sturgeon and the LGBT+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Scotland would be an Independent country yesterday.

I’ll tell you what i see happening if Forbes/Humza is elected Sturgeon will be asked to come back and safe the party, as some great messiah.

Its only my opinion but the reason the Rag has taken its decision against the Alba Party is because the Alba party membership support Ash Regan.

Desimond.

Not at all, she hadn’t read his tweets and knew nothing of the subject and just gave him a red card off the top of her head when pushed for an answer, it meant nothing.

Akenaton.

” Mia, the original poster, is unhinged, and Regan too”

What utter bollocks, comments wise you couldn’t lace Mia’s boots, and Regan has the Britnats and House Jocks running scared.

link to archive.is

Misogyny could become offence under new Scottish Government plans

The consultation will run until Friday 2 June, and women in particular are encouraged to respond.

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

Hey Keith Brown your GRR Bill is the worst misogyny I have ever experienced.

Baroness Kennedy creating laws for women but was unable to define what she meant by a woman.

Would the rapist Isla Bryson be covered by this new misogyny law?

@ Ebok

Aye, I mentioned the other week that a lot of politicians appear a little bit too comfortable and disconnected from the lived reality of the citizens they are meant to serve and represent.
Seemingly endless time available to discuss gender and front or back hole preferences, whilst others are tsruggling with cost of living “crisis”, and freezing in their living spaces due to the extortionate energy costs. JUst whose the priority between those groups…

I see Kenny MacAskill at least spends a good bit of his time pursuing some of the issues relating to energy, but he is doing that in Westminster, so he’s up against it trying to improve matters due to the persistent lack of political will London Rule has exhibited to address the issues.

But it’s an open goal for campaigning to return Scotland to self governance though, and easy for a genuine pro-indy Party leader candidate to pick up the baton and run with.
Energy being reserved to Westminster, and Health being devolved to Holyrood sets up a conflict, the energy poverty created by Westminster policy burdens our NHS Scotland which has to deal with the health issues living in cold damp spaces creates.
There were around 800 folk admitted to hospital with hypothermia in December’s cold spell.

link to bbc.co.uk

Scotland exported 2.35TWhs of leccy to England in January.

link to twitter.com

But our administrators of devolved powers in Holyrood would rather go head to head with Westminster over genderwoowoo…

@John Main

Have you heard of the “Act of Security” Scotland passed in 1704?

This is the act which allowed the Scottish parliament to choose a successor to Queen Ann different to the one England chose.

This act proved the idea of “union of crowns” prior to the Treaty of Union was nothing more than a myth. There was not a proper union of crowns. What happened is that both crowns happened to sit on the same head at a particular moment in time.

Another proof of this is there was nothing forcing Scotland’s parliament to pass the Claim of Right after England passed the Bill of Rights and viceversa. England could have removed the crown from James II while Scotland could have kept James VII as monarch if it so wished. So a proper union of crowns did never exist before the treaty of union. The fact the same monarch was called differently in Scotland and England is another proof the union of crowns was a myth.

Queen Ann is as far as the Claim of Right extended beause she died without descendants. So legitimately, it was proper for Scotland to choose their own monarch, and some of the people in Scotland did not want the same monarch as England chose, hence the Jacobite rebellions.

It is precisely this Act of Security, and the fear by England (and its crown) that Scotland could choose as monarch who they wanted and potentially somebody who could ally with France, what precipitated the Treaty of Union by imposing the “Alien Act” against Scottish people living in England.

Take a look a the second article of the treaty of union:

“II. That the Succession to the Monarchy of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and of the Dominions thereunto belonging after Her Most Sacred Majesty, and in default of Issue of Her Majesty be, remain and continue to the Most Excellent Princess Sophia Electoress and Dutchess Dowager of Hanover,….”

Make a guess which was one of the very first pieces of Scottish own legislation the brand new Westminter parliament declared null and void as soon as the union started. Yes, you got it. It was Scotland’s Act of security 1704

The treaty of union was always about ensuring Scotland and England had the same monarch. In fact, judging by the first article of the treaty, you could argue the main reason for the treaty was to permanently unite both crowns with the artificial creation of “the Kingdom of Great Britain”. But this never worked in practice because the monarchs were continued to be addressed as Queen/King of Scotland/England.

In practice, what this treaty does is it ensures the crowns of Scotland and England remain over the same head for as long as the treaty remains valid. But if the treaty ends, unless Scotland decides otherwise, Scotland walks away with its own crown and England with hers, so there is no real union of crowns beyond the treaty of union either.

In fact, should Charlie have not sworn abiding by the Claim of Right and the crowns could have been separated again, unless England refused him as king too.

It was claimed the same monarch was needed to maintain peace in this island, but if you read the history books at the time of the treaty, it becomes very clear it was more to ensure Scotland fought England’s wars on the same side as England than anything else.

The birth of the treaty of union in 1706 and its preservation until today have always been about preserving the interests of England’s crown.

Debatable Lands 1:42 pm

Ash Regan is “not the people’s choice” and it is better to “start out with someone the people at least seem to like” (i.e. Kate Forbes). [Apologies, I am paraphrasing]

Disagree. My actual gut instinct is much more that Ash Regan has what it takes to rise to the challenge and that, in the event she wins, and in the equally hard to hope for event of her being given a fair chance in the job, people would be much more likely to discover they do indeed like her, and will be far more likely to do so than with either of the other two. For me that includes, for what it’s worth, the sadly electorally significant matter of image and demeanour. She has grit and no nonsense.

John Main,

You say of me that : “Just 2 days ago, posted an ungrammatical, lazy and abusive insult”.

I would apologise for the grammar but I don’t think it was ungrammatical – I could parse it for you if you like – but that would involve repeating it.

I was responding to what I thought was vile racist abuse at the expense of people whom Craig Murray has described as “desperate souls struggling through cold, cold seas to our shore in open boats”

But in any case, insults don’t need to be grammatical – they need only be insulting!

Given your reaction, I’d call that a result!

Gordon Keane

Why do you think Nicola did not use the mandates she had

Let’s be honest. Jo Cherry would have been the ‘special one’. She would destroy all 3 candidates and the Holyrood opposition. But alas not to be.

What was Ash Regan’s answer to Erin Lux’s question?

John Main. Sorry John, made a bit of a bollox of my last post, which was composed mainly of a large quote from Lee Floyd, who was also quoting Mia, resulting in an unreadable mish mash, by me.

I do agree that the clock is indeed ticking as far as the Scottish electoral demographic is concerned.
Have you a degree in Negativity :o)?

BTW I never use personal attacks on other posters and would not refer to Mia as unhinged.